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17 Sep 2018 07:56:16
1) Clippers- Wolves

Wolves: Harris+ Robinson
Clippers: J Butler

2) Clippers- Atlanta
Clippers: Dedmon+ Y Lin
Atlanta: Gallinari+ future first round pick Clippers


1.) 17 Sep 2018 20:59:36
Harris could stay in Minny and Robinson is a young talent, so that's a good return for Butler.

And Atlanta receives a future buildingblock, for a bad contract.

The clippers get Butler and can make a run, to get Irving and Leonard.



10 Sep 2018 09:09:35
Indy: J Butler+ E Turner

Wolves: McCollum+Bogdanovic

Portland: T Gibson+ C Joseph+ T Young+ Sabonis+ 1rnd pick Indy+ 1rnd pick Wolves

Indy get a second star and Turner could be a good sixth man in Indy

The Wolves get a great replacement for Butler.

Portland saves money and they can rebuilt arround D Lillard, receiving the assets to get a second star.


1.) 10 Sep 2018 19:23:09
McCollum is worth close to indy's Paul George trade value. Sabonis and late picks aren't good enough and it's a terrible start to a rebuild for the blazers. Lillard is too old to start a rebuild with him as the center piece and it didn't work the first time, so obviously he's good but is not a #1 banana that can lead a team to the promise land without major help, which the blazers didn't provide when they should have. Trade both McCollum and lillard for good draft picks if it's a rebuild. Taj Gibson, joseph, t. young are junk in return.

2.) 11 Sep 2018 08:08:38
This saves Portland 7M this year and 38M next year.
The picks can be used to get another good player. (

McCollum and Lillard both are great players, but their defense isn't good enough to get them to the Western finals, so they could trade one of them. I would trade Mccollum and Keep Lilliard.

3.) 11 Sep 2018 14:07:51
If their defense is the problem and you would trade 1 then why mccollum? He's the better defender of the 2.

4.) 11 Sep 2018 23:17:15
Lillard and McCollum are equal defenders, but Lillard is a faaaaaaaar superior player in every other aspect of the game. That's why you trade McCollum before Lillard.

That said, their defensive issues are overstated. They had a top 10 defense last year with them. The issue isn't those two, it's the rest of the team. To make the west finals, they'd need a top 10-15 player to go with them. You can't make it to the west finals with one all star and one borderline all star. Ask OKC, or SA, or Utah, or NO.

5.) 11 Sep 2018 23:17:23
Example: Swap Curry and Thmopson with Lillard and McCollum. GS still wins the west. Portland is still the 3 seed and out in the first or second round.

6.) 12 Sep 2018 09:06:00
@ B Miller

This is why i trade McCollum and bad contracts for draft picks
Sabonis is developping well, so he can become the third option.

And they can trade the two draft picks and another bad contract for a star.

7.) 12 Sep 2018 18:18:02
McCollum always has the tougher assignment than lillard. True the #'s are the same but McCollum weighs more, has longer arms and for 40 minutes a game has a tougher opponent to defend typically.



05 Sep 2018 09:05:58
NY: Bazemore

Clippers: Y Lin+ Dedmon

Atlanta: Gallinari+ T Hardaway+ 1rnd pick NY 2020+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2019 or 2021 (if the 2019 pick go's to Boston)


1.) 06 Sep 2018 01:03:43
Knicks not trading picks moving hardaway for bazemore bc bazemore is gaurantee 18 mil in 2020.



31 Aug 2018 08:25:14
OKC: B Griffin

Detroit: A Robertson+ J Grant+Abrines+Patterson+ 1rnd pick OKC


1.) 31 Aug 2018 09:22:16
OKC's bench is too shallow already. This will hurt them more. Although it would be nice to get a 3rd star, it will be hard for them to say yes especially for Blake who is injury prone.

2.) 31 Aug 2018 12:52:30
OKC does have a really shallow bench, but I think I would pull the trigger on this if I'm them. They need another player if they're going to come close to contending, and that starting 5 will be really competitive no matter who they put at the 2. I wouldn't play Schroder there, but there are a lot of veteran free agents out there who can help fill that spot.
As far as the bench, you start with Schroder, and that's about it. I'm still a believer in Noel, so I think you can add him in. After that, you'd have to bring in guys who want to win on a low contract. They have to do this anyway, with or without this trade. I don't see them being a big destination as is, but if you add another big time player it's much more appealing.

3.) 31 Aug 2018 14:11:29
OKC shouldn't and can't do this right now it would have to wait. Grant just resigned so they can't trade him right now. And they should wait before giving all that for Griffin. Grant could be the answer at PF if he can shoot 37-38% from 3 again like in 2016-17 and do the other things he did he could be a good starter on a team friendly contract. They give up their starting and backup SG and PF plus a 1st just to get a starting PF. They make thselves to weak even after signing veterans to minimum contracts.

4.) 31 Aug 2018 23:12:04
Blake Griffin is so not worth mortgaging the entire team farm for.
I like the guy, but he's not worth his Max salary if he can't stay healthy for the entire season for his entire contract.

Detroit is the team he needs to be on if he is going to get paid that much. They need a marquee name on their team to draw in some fan interest, but they aren't going to depend too much on him consistently because they aren't realistically going to compete for a championship any time in the near future.



28 Aug 2018 09:37:01
Memphis: T Hardaway+ 1rnd pick NY 2020.

NY: Temple+ J Green

NY get capspace for the 2019 and 2020 free agency.

Memphis can go for another run with Gasol and Conley and get an extra pick so they can start rebuilding in 2020.


1.) 28 Aug 2018 14:30:24
I like it for both teams with the caveat that the pick would have some protection on it. Maybe top 10?

2.) 29 Aug 2018 04:11:09
Hardaway for mathews no pick needed. Knicks not trading Hardaway at the cost of a pick only noah.

3.) 29 Aug 2018 05:00:41
Shizzee, it’s pretty doubtful that anyone is taking on Hardaway for free.

4.) 29 Aug 2018 06:19:06
They can use 2022 to dump Noah.

5.) 29 Aug 2018 09:15:33
Comme on shizzee. This gives NY two chances to get a good free agent.

NY keeps Knox, Ntilikina, Porzingis and Knox, they keep the 2019 draft pick and they clear cap.

6.) 29 Aug 2018 13:44:41
II, no one in their right mind is taking Noah if the sweetener is NY’s 2022 first.

Shizzee, Dallas also has plans of being a player in the FA market next summer. They could have as little as $15M on the books, and at a maximum they’ll have $50M. It would take very little to be in two max territory. Taking on Hardaway’s $18M commitment for multiple years is not going to happen unless there is a big sweetener attached.

You need a team who’s timeline for competing is further out to consummate a deal where they’re willing to take on multiple years of contract to get a first.

7.) 29 Aug 2018 19:35:53
Maybe if they do the trade on draft night to just take on expiring Noah then yeah cause what if the Knicks sucks and that pick is awesome so kings or Hawks do it.




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17 Sep 2018 08:02:50
I 've seen the movie Draft Day, about the draft in the NFL.

They offer three second round picks for a lottery pick.

I can't image you can get a lottery pick in basketball for some second round picks.

Are second round picks in NFL more important than in the NBA?


1.) 17 Sep 2018 12:54:53
There are no lottery picks in the NFL and I’ve never seen the movie, so I don’t know what pick it was, but it’s not completely ridiculous to think 3 2nds could get you a middle of the 1st type pick in the nfl. There are 7 rounds in the NFL draft. Almost all of the 2nd founders are going to be on a roster that year and a fair amount of them will either start or play a real role with the team.

2.) 17 Sep 2018 15:43:31
Yeah, 7 rounds vs 2. Think about this comparison:

If the NBA draft was broken into 7 sections, “Round” 1 would be picks 1-9, “Round” 2 would be picks 10-18. It’s possible to imagine a team would trade their pick #45 for picks 10 and 12.

3.) 17 Sep 2018 16:03:21
It's the sixth pick.
And i'm European, so a don't understand NFL :-)

4.) 17 Sep 2018 16:36:10
*pick 4 or 5.

5.) 17 Sep 2018 21:00:54
Yeah, under most circumstances 3 2nds isn’t getting you to the 6th unless they were all high 2nd rounders that year or something. The NFL has 53 roster spots to fill and given all of the injuries and special teams, most of those guys will play atleast a little bit. Plus given the variance in talent that the better college football teams have to the lesser ones and schemes, it’s harder to evaluate the talent. Where the NBA has plenty of tape of Bamba playing Ayton, Jackson and etc from AAU of in college, the NFL might only have a few plays of an elite lineman going up against an elite d line man. Plus if the lineman’s team is an air raid spread or a triple option team, you man have almost no tape of them run blocking or no tape pass blocking. There are just a lot more variables.



21 Aug 2018 23:22:49
Minny: M Turner+ Young

Indy: Butler


1.) 22 Aug 2018 05:56:51
Maybe include Rabb too? Or a first? But the framework of Turner for Butler makes sense to me.

2.) 22 Aug 2018 11:49:54
Rabb plays for the grizzlies.

3.) 22 Aug 2018 14:18:53
Oops, meant Leaf. Same difference, a second year skinny PF.

4.) 22 Aug 2018 16:46:01
Why would the T-Wolves need Turner if they have Towns? Turner is better than nothing, but I would think they would go after a position they need.

5.) 22 Aug 2018 17:26:40
Turner seems like he can play some PF as well (so could Townes at least offensively) . I think Turner and Townes would work together. I know most teams have gone away from two traditional bigs, but it's not impossible for them to work together.

6.) 22 Aug 2018 19:10:15
Turner is an underrated defensive big. Averaged almost 2 blks a game last season Sort of the opposite of towns and an improved shooter last season. Why would twolves need towns, turner, Dieng? Good question.

7.) 22 Aug 2018 19:47:07
The wolves would want all 3 because Dieng isn't a starting caliber NBA player. Turner is.

Exactly Btec, Turner can cover some of Towns' limitations defensively and stretch the floor. Feel like a good fit together.

8.) 23 Aug 2018 02:12:24
The wolves trade butler which is a position of need they have Wiggins,2rookies, rose and a guy from Europe and you have them taking 2 bigs so the wolves would have towns Turner young dieng Patton and Tolliver wow that’s brilliant Btec you absolutely know nothing about basketball.

9.) 23 Aug 2018 05:50:11
Cde2812 I have no idea why you are posting lies about things I didn't say? I didn't say this trade was a good idea or bad one. Just what type of player turner is and agreeing with you, they have quite a few big guys. What is your problem with me? Second post you are accusing me of saying things I didn't say? If there's some other reason you are doing this just state it and let's deal with it. I don't really appreciate the obvious and provable lies I didn't say that you are accusing me of saying. They are in the posts for all to see. Take it easy, you only have 1 life!

10.) 28 Aug 2018 14:19:35
Btec. why are all your posts about claiming to be cyber bullied. You make statements, people disagree. You are the only one ranting. then the best part, you say take it easy, perhaps you should.



13 Aug 2018 13:52:50
Both The Nets and the Clippers have losing records most of the time, but they have a rich owner and they're in a big market. Do you guys believe they can become a big free agent destination in the future?


1.) 13 Aug 2018 15:38:31
Nets: Maybe
Clippers: Probably not

If someone wants to go to LA, the Lakers beat them, so the Clippers probably can't draw much so long as the Lakers have cap space/ flexibility.

As much as NY is talked about as a major draw, I don't actuallly believe it is. The Nets are an improving franchise with a solid front office finally, so they could turn it around. But I'll believe it when I see it.

NY is a lot like Notre Dame in college football, it rides off of history from before I was born.

2.) 13 Aug 2018 18:03:42
Clippers had a winning record last year didn't they? Haven't they also had a pretty good ladt 5-7 seasons in terms of winning? It's not like they are the kings or something.

3.) 13 Aug 2018 18:32:15
Lob city had a great run, but they didn't play a conference final.
Before lob city they had a winning record in 2006 (47-35) With Brand and Maggete as stars.
They made the playoffs in 96 with only 36 wins and L Vaught and B williams as star players
And the 1991-1993 Clippers had two playoff first round exits with M Jackson- R Harper and D Manning.
And the San Diego Clippers never made it to the playoffs.

The Clippers could be the kings :-) :-) :-)

4.) 13 Aug 2018 19:49:14
The clippers would have been the kings if not for the Paul>Lakers trade veto. If Paul goes to the Lakers, the Clippers are basically the Kings (griffin and cousins leading bad teams) .

They’ve never pulled a meaningful free agent.

They did have a nice run, and I don’t think they go back to the Clippers of old. They’ll be a decent team with their ownership and management. But I don’t think that high end free agents will consider them.

5.) 13 Aug 2018 22:15:18
We will find out next summer. Brooklyn will have 2 max slots with some young talent.

6.) 14 Aug 2018 14:10:32
1st bmiller your talking about the 2 most popular cities in the country, brooklyn existed less than 10 yrs in brooklyn and your comparing them to notre dame. Worst part is the people who believe you. that's la and ny haters like u. U should say that about knicks and lakers, you might have a point. let's face it any player if the situation or cap is right, would choice lakers and knicks before any other city bc of marketing money.

7.) 14 Aug 2018 14:21:46
Brooklyn and Clippers far better attraction to free agents than Portland.

8.) 14 Aug 2018 15:32:29
Yeah, and Portland can't land a major free agent. They never have, they never will. I know that about my team. Knicks fans lie to themselves that they're still a free agent destination, when they're not. If Portland and the Knicks both had max FA money, I would expect both to waste it on a player like Kanter (Portland originally signed that deal, the Knicks now own it! )

You say that any player would pick the Knicks, but only one (Amare) has in the last 20 years. No one wants to play for the Knicks. It's probably more to do with the horrible ownership and management than the city, but I really think that the "mecca of basketball" thing isn't true anymore.

I'm not a big city hater, I'm a realist. The Lakers are a destination. Miami is a destination. The Knicks aren't. The Clippers aren't. That's not my opinion, that's history.

9.) 14 Aug 2018 16:13:23
Just because of the long term success, the way they’ve treated their stars/ former stars, history of the Lakers, and all of the players in the history of the franchise, it’s hard to imagine the Clippers ever having any where near the pull that the Lakers have. They’re so far from equal footing that I don’t think the Clippers will ever have much more than a slight advantage over the smaller market teams in free agency.

It’s much easier to think the Nets could draw closer to the Knicks. It’s not like the Knicks have pulled a ton of elite free agents, as long as Dolan is the owner player have to worry about that mess, the franchise has been pretty bad for the past 20+ years, it’s overal history is overstated in general, and they’ve treated former stars terribly. It’s not hard to imagine the Nets proving over the next ten years that they’re the destination in New York and pulling close to even as a free agent destination long term.

10.) 14 Aug 2018 18:04:56
The Mecca of basketball is L. A. Bmiller66. NY is just a city where it is played. The true blue meca is Kansas, that's where it began, but L. A. Is the capital city of basketball in America now. Seattle used to be a big one too, and still is, just not in the NBA.

11.) 14 Aug 2018 21:40:11
The "Mecca of Basketball" is NY. That's what they call it. I didn't make that up.

My point was what you said though, that LA is really the current basketball capital. At least for pro basketball.

12.) 15 Aug 2018 00:21:54
Nobody wants to play in ny Porzingis doesn’t even want to play there and that (huge trade for carmelo) well we all know how that turned out! The owner and front office is a joke! And I can’t wait till Brooklyn gets jimmy and kyrie. I live in manhattan 4 months out of the year so I’ll actually see exciting basketball!

13.) 16 Aug 2018 00:00:14
It started in Ontario where James Naismith was born and brought it to merica.



24 Jul 2018 08:05:21
The Nets have the money to sign 3 big free agents next year.
Do you think they will be able to get a big three?


1.) 24 Jul 2018 11:13:19
No they are still the nets. No Kawhi kawhi Leonard super team.

2.) 24 Jul 2018 12:22:41
Paul Pearce, Kevin Garnett, derron Williams just joking you poor nets fans maybe Kyrie and jimmy buckets.

3.) 24 Jul 2018 13:20:00
If you want to form a super team, the Nets would have to be an appealing spot. Big market, ton of cash, they’ll have Aa high pick, easier path in the east, and they have some nice players to complement the stars. If you can get to stars, like Rad suggested, that want to play together, it would be appealing.



10 Jul 2018 23:53:44
Atlanta: L Ball+ J Jackson+ deng

LA: T Young+ t Chandler

Phoe:Schroder+ 1rnd pick LA


1.) 11 Jul 2018 03:44:26
Suns wouldn't go for this I'd guess.

2.) 12 Jul 2018 18:36:37
Suns say no.




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27 Sep 2018 08:58:13
The trademachine is just a machine.

The Miammi offer isn't unfair, but i think Minny could get a better return for Butler.

I like this for Sacramento, they need draft picks and the Miami pick would be worth taking a bad contract.




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27 Sep 2018 08:55:06
Why would phoenix do this?

It's a steep price for philly to, so i think they turn this down. They get the best player, but he 29 years old and a free agent next year.




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21 Sep 2018 07:38:18
No way Butler would stay in Washington, so they get screwed in this trade.




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19 Sep 2018 07:52:48
Porter and oubre for Butler would be great, no need to involve picks for a player that could leave for free.




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18 Sep 2018 08:19:22
The Nets heving draft picks. Could this be real?

No, nice trade. Helps both teams.

The Nets still have Russel, so trading Dinwiddie, for picks would be a smart move.





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