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17 Jul 2017 20:52:14
OKC - NYK - DET - BKN

OKC get: Carmelo Anthony and Joakim Noah

Pg. Westbrook
sg. Roberson
sf. George
pf. Anthony
c. Adams

NYK get: Reggie Jackson, Tobias Harris, Doug McDermott (exp), and Jerami Grant (exp)

pg. Jackson
sg. THJ
sf. Harris
pf. Porzingis
c. Hernangomez

DET get: Jeremy Lin, Courtney Lee, and Kyle Singler

pg. Lin
sg. Bradley
sf. Lee
pf Leuer
c. Drummond

BKN get: Enes Kanter, Alex Abrines, Stanley Johnson, Josh Heustis, 2020 1st DP OKC, and 2018 1st DP NYK (top 3 protected)

pg. Russell
sg. Kilpatrick
sf. RHJ/ Johnson
pf. Carroll/ Booker
c. Kanter/ Mozgov

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18 Jul 2017 18:07:56
Brooklyn gets way to much in this deal for basically doing nothing other than giving up Lin.

17 Jul 2017 17:28:39
The Cavs get Melo, Covington, and Danny Green

The 76ers get Jefferson and Love

The Knicks get Bayless, Saric, Felder, and a Cavs 2nd

The Spurs get Shumpert and a protected Philly 1st

The Cavs get a guy who can fill in the offense hole left by Love, and 2 good 3 and D players.

The 76ers get a star to team with there young players. If Embiid can stay healthy and Simmons and Fultz can be as good as advertised, this team has a chance to be really good sooner rather than later.

The Knicks immediately save close to 15 million dollars. They don't take on any long term contracts. They get Saric who had a solid rookie year, Felder who has some potential, and a 2nd.

The Spurs get a younger player who fill in for Green, a first, and cap space next year.

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17 Jul 2017 19:02:28
Actually I like it for all the teams involved. Not sure I could poke holes in any of the teams returns. Some philly fans probably think they are giving up too much but if pick is lotto protected especially with the addition of Love it shouldn't be that good especially with them in the east. However, Knicks receiving Saric and taking back minimal salary is a little too good to be true for Knicks so maybe philly could afford to give up slightly less.

Spurs are only team that takes a step back in this trade but the pick I think more than makes up the value gap between Green and Shumpert.

18 Jul 2017 18:14:04
I like the deal but I would leave Jefferson out because he's a good locker room guy and LeBron seems to like him.

17 Jul 2017 17:20:48
Boston: Drummond
Trade: Horford+ 1rnd pick Clippers 19+ 1rnd pick Vancouver 19


charlotte: A Horford
trade: MKG+C Zeller+ 1rnd pick 2018

Detroit: MKG+ C Zeller+ 1rnd pick 2018 Char+1rn pick Clippers 19+ 1rnd pick Vancouver 2019


Boston:
Receive a defensive center
C: Drummond/Zizic
PF: Morris/ Crowder
Sf:Hayward/ Tatum
SG: Smart/ J Brown
PG: I Thomas/Rozier


charlotte:
Receive a shooting PF
C: D Howard/ Kaminski
PF: Horford/ M Williams/Kaminski
SF: Batum/ M Willimans/ Monk
SG:Lamb/ Monk
PG: Walker/ MCW

Detroit:
Can rebuilt and go after Porter this year.
C: C Zeller
PF: MKG
SF: Harris
SG: Bradley
PG: R Jackson

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17 Jul 2017 18:43:30
If Celtics could get Drummond for that it would be a great pickup. With the talent they've added at the forward spots with Hayward and Tatum I don't think they need a heavily skilled center like Horford and could be better suited for Drummond. Drummond addresses their primary weakness (rebounding) which they haven't really improved dramatically (Baynes and Morris I guess should help some) . Not to mention Drummond is young enough to stick around with Tatum, Brown, Smart and whoever they add with their other picks.

For Charlotte I'm not sure Horford is worth all that. Hornets outside of Monk don't have much youth and they are giving up some in this trade in addition to a draft pick. Even with Horford their upside is likely a 2nd round playoff exit. Not a terrible trade for Hornets but I don't think it makes sense when they look at bigger picture. They'd almost be better off getting Drummond themselves even tho they have Howard.

For Pistons I think Celtics would have to include better picks (at least Lakers/ Kings pick) in order for me to part with Drummond who is the closest thing they have to a star and is young and locked up long term.

16 Jul 2017 20:46:04
PHI-SAS trade

SAS gets: Okafor

PHI gets: Green, heavily protected future 1st round pick(or an unprotected 2nd round pick)

Why SAS: they haven't had a good center since Duncan retired and Okafor might be that guy who can step into that role. The Spurs have a great coaching staff that has a better chance of setting him straight and maybe a change might be all he needs. Plus Green is probably now expendable with Gay signing.

Why PHI: Okafor 99% likely to be traded before or during the season because PHI probably won't pick up his option anyways and if they don't he won't want to come back as a bench player. Plus now with Johnson on board he is needed even less. The only weak spot on PHI roster now is at SG so they are probably looking to add some more depth at the position, but there are not many good free agent SG left. They are probably looking to get a good draft pick and draft the forgin SG in the upcoming draft which would all but complete the process.

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15 Jul 2017 18:27:46
Rest of the Pelicans offseason:
Trade #1: NOP-DEN:
NOP gives:
Omer Asik
Solomon Hill
2019 1st rounder

DEN gives:
Will Barton

Trade #2: NOP-DET
NOP gives:
Etwaun Moore
Alexis Ajinca
2019 2nd rounder

DET gives:
Reggie Jackson

Trade #3: NOP-IND:
NOP gives:
Frank Jackson
2020 1st rounder
IND:
Thaddeus Young

Sign Terrence Jones 2yr-10m
Sign Gerald Green 1yr-5m

PG: Jackson-Rondo-Cook
SG: Holiday-Crawford
SF: Barton-Green-Pondexter
PF: Davis-Jones
C: Cousins-Diallo

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15 Jul 2017 20:05:44
Asik and Toupane for Wilson Chandler

Solomon Hill and Q P for Terrance Ross

Moore and Ajinca as a salary dump to Brooklyn.

15 Jul 2017 21:40:24
Hill and Toupane for Chandler*

Asik and P for Ross*.

16 Jul 2017 05:17:59
Are you guys for real?

16 Jul 2017 05:37:27
R you for real.

16 Jul 2017 15:50:53
Seriously. Asik is just unplayable. Any trade involving him isn't happening.

15 Jul 2017 18:20:11
I know this might be stating the obvious but the Celtics are going to be good.... and young.

Starting lineup:

IT
Smart
Hayward
Crowder
Horford

Bench:
Brown
Taytum
Rozier
Morris
Zizic
Nadar
Baynes
yabusele
Thiess
ojeleye

This is a pretty good team with a deep bench, but a lot of them are young and in experienced. I personally think that the one move that will pay off the most other than the Hayward signing is the signing of Nasser because I thought that he was seriously underrated in that years draft and was so happy when the Celtics got him. I think he will be able to be a force off the bench at one of the guard spots. I think that this team could easily beat the Cavs but isn't one the Warriors level yet. That I think can change next year. They have the potentioal to get 2 lottery picks and they should spend them on highly regarded international SG luka doncic who can fill the starting SG role as long as he doesn't stay over seas as well as big man deandre ayton who if they draft will allow Hayward to move back to the PF spot where he will do better and it will give the Celtics more rebounding ability. If they can go into next year with a lineup of IT(hopefully resign) Doncic Hayward Horford Ayton along with the majority of the bench that they have this year plus Crowder will defenitly make them able to challenge the Warriors in my opinion. Mostly because the Warriors are screwed in a few years when they can't afford all their stars and are stuck with their below average bench that has been protected by their amazing starting lineup. Once the Warriors implode they will have a hard time bringing in talent because they paid a lot of guys way too much so they won't have a lot of spending money in free agency and they don't have a lot of draft picks either. So the Celtics who are built for now and the future, is pretty special since most teams are one or the other, so the Celtics are in my opinion most likely to take over as the league powerhowse along with the T-Wolves and 76ers once the Warriors break down.

What do you guys think?

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15 Jul 2017 19:04:09
Demetrius Jackson hasn't been waived. I think he'll make the final roster. This is what I think the final roster opening day will look like:

Pg: Thomas, Rozier, Jackson
Sg: Smart, Brown,
Sf: Hayward, Tatum, Nadar
Pf: Morris, Crowder, Yabusele, Theis
C: Horford, Baynes, Zizic

2 way contracts: Ojeleye and Jabari Bird.

16 Jul 2017 00:49:37
Jackson was waived.

16 Jul 2017 05:40:14
No way in heck dose Morris start over Crowder.

16 Jul 2017 05:42:13
And Ojeleye will probably make the final roster. The front office reportedly really likes him and will want to have him off the bench.

16 Jul 2017 20:20:42
I think they have an outside shot of beating the Cavs, but your assertion that they could easily beat the Cavs is ridiculous. The Celtics have more depth, but they still don't have the star power of the Cavs and still are a weak rebounding team. The Celtics looked completely overwhelmed against the Cavs and I don't see Hayward ( a really good player, but a borderline all star at best) and a few rookies being able to bridge that gap this year.

As for the Warriors, they have all of their picks and they just locked up Curry long term. Green and Thompson are both locked up for a few more years and it doesn't look like Durant is going any where. They also will probably be the top destination for veterans loooking for a ring for the foreseeable future. Their big 4 are all just now hitting their primes. That teams going to be hard to be for the foreseeable future.

18 Jul 2017 17:30:51
The Celtics lineup will look like this:


Thomas/ Smart
Hayward/ Brown/ Smart
Crowder/ Tatum/ Nadar
Morris/ Yabusele/ Ojeleye
Horford/ Baynes/ Zizic.

15 Jul 2017 03:57:28
Opening night should be like this

OKC Thunder visits GS Warriors on their ring ceremony and banner raising

Westbrook vs Durant anew while Westbrook has a brand new looking team around him

New look MIN Twolves visits California to face Lonzo Ball and the LA Lakers

interesting to see this Wolves team play and see how Lonzo Ball do with his 1st NBA game at opening night

not much of any interesting match-up on the East but this would be nice

young PHI team face BOS Celtics on a classic match up

2ND night should be highlighted by these match ups

LBJ and Cavs host MIA Heat

Texas battle Paul & Harden host the Spurs

see how Millsap improve the Nuggets vs the duo of Davis & Cousins in NOLA

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15 Jul 2017 18:11:46
I wanna see Lakers vs Kings or 76ers opening night.

18 Jul 2017 17:32:02
Doesn't the top two picks usually play eachother the opening night? or at least the opening week?

14 Jul 2017 14:40:35
Bucks Rockets

Henson and Mirza for Ryan Abderson and 2nd rd pick

Bucks Mavs

Delly for Mcroberts and 2nd rd pick

Waive Mcroberts
Waive Hawes
Sign D Rose
Sign Donuts
Resign Terry
Resign Beasley


Rose/Brogdon/Payton
Middleton/Terry/Vaughn
Antetekoumnpo/Snell/Beasley
Anderson/Wilson/Parker
Maker/Monroe/Donuts

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13 Jul 2017 17:04:51
2013 NBA Re-Draft

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
Actual pick: Anthony Bennett, PF
Do-over pick: Giannis Antetokounmpo, SF

It didn't take the Cavs long to figure out that Anthony Bennett was one of the biggest draft busts in NBA history. A little over a year after the Cavs drafted Bennett, he was shipped to Minnesota in a deal that brought All-Star PF Kevin Love to CLE. Bennett has continued to do nothing as a T-wolf.

Meanwhile, the 15th overall pick Giannis Antetokounmpo has blossomed into an All-NBA Second Team player in just his fourth season. Giannis lead the Milwaukee Bucks in points, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals for the entire 2016-17 campaign(!) en route to a playoff berth. The Greek Freak is currently a three point shot away from becoming a consistent MVP threat.

Kyrie Irving's body control along with the prospect of acquiring Kevin Love was enough to convince LeBron to bring his talents back home in 2014. Imagine if the Cavs had Kyrie Irving and Giannis Antetokounmpo? Although it wasn't super obvious Giannis would be a star after his rookie year, he possessed a rare combination of length and athleticism: the same combination that made LeBron intrigued with center Tristan Thompson. With LeBron at the 4 and Giannis at the 3, a Kevin Love trade is no longer necessary. The Cavs could keep their 2014 and '15 first rounders and use them to address depth issues. A LeBron-Giannis-Kyrie Big 3 would currently be the best trio in the NBA in my opinion, although GSW might have something to say about that. Oh, what could've been...

2. Orlando Magic
Actual pick: Victor Oladipo, SG
Do-over pick: Rudy Gobert, C

Victor Oladipo hasn't been a bust, but he also hasn't been the franchise player the Magic were hoping he'd be. Orlando traded Oladipo to OKC in 2016 for Serge Ibaka, and a year later the Thunder traded him to the Pacers as part of a package for Paul George.

The 27th overall pick Rudy Gobert has developed into the kind of defensive center that would remind Magic fans of Dwight Howard in his prime. In his fourth season, Gobert was named to both the All-NBA Second Team and the All-Defensive First Team. Although he's still nothing special offensively (14 ppg) Gobert has the upside to be the best overall center in the game one day and a multiple DPOY winner.

Gobert would have given the Magic something they've lacked since Dwight Howard: a true franchise player. Rudy would have fit right in with a franchise that has only made the finals with a center as its best player (Shaq in 1995, Howard in 2009). The Magic are far from contention, but they'd be a lot closer with Gobert as the face of the franchise.

3. Washington Wizards
Actual pick: Otto Porter Jr., SF
Do-over pick: CJ McCollum, SG

Otto Porter has been a nice fit in Washington alongside Bradley Beal and John Wall: when Beal is actually playing. Beal has battled injuries throughout his career. Porter and Beal will make a combined $48.6 Million next year, pretty outrageous considering the skill and reliability of both.

McCollum has developed into the perfect complement for Damian Lillard in Portland. His scoring and sweet-shooting would help to take the pressure off any star. McCollum would be a better, more reliable backcourt complement to John Wall than Beal. The Wizards could have easily traded Beal for a veteran small forward or for draft picks. Everything is crystal clear in hindsight though.

4. Charlotte Bobcats
Actual pick: Alex Len, C
Do-over pick: Steven Adams, C

Alex Len is another bust of this class. The Suns have to be kicking their-selves for passing on Gobert and Steven Adams.

Adams has developed into a nice starting center in this league, capable of averaging a double-double while being a good defender. Adams can protect the rim and close out on shooters very well for a big man. The Suns wouldn't be forced to start an over-priced Tyson Chandler at center with Adams around.

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13 Jul 2017 19:24:50
The issue with the first scenario is nobody considered Giannis that high of a prospect and a major project at that. If they did select him and didn't trade for Love (kept Wiggins) then that likely wouldn't have been enough to convince Lebron to come back to Cleveland with Giannis a major question mark. They likely still would've had to have made that Love trade to attract Lebron (Lebron clearly signed with the promise the Twolves would trade Wiggins for Love) .

Magic are a mess. Oladipo wasn't that bad a pick given that draft class and as great a defensive force Gobert is without another star on their team Magic wouldn't be much better than they are now. Its highly unlikely they would've drafted a center with a young Vucevic putting in a strong season the year prior.

I don't view McCollum as an upgrade over Beal the only advantage is that he'd been healthy although Beal was able to do that this past year. Those same injuries would tarnish Beal's trade value so I doubt they'd get anyone better than Porter is now especially nobody as young as him. McCollum is being paid basically just as much as Beal. Don't see this switch making much if any difference.

14 Jul 2017 13:54:16
If Steven Adams is going at 4
it's a real thin draft.

15 Jul 2017 03:47:56
My top 10 retake of the draft

1 Cleveland - Greek freak (Kyrie, wiggins, Greek freak)
2 Orlando - Cj McCollom (could've used a 20 point scorer)
3 Washington - R Gobert ( wall, beal, gobert lineup scary)
4 Charlotte - N Noel ( defense walker, mkg, Noel)
5 Phoenix - O Porter ( 3&d alongside Bledsoe and booker)
6 Philadelphia - V Oladipo ( best player available )
7 Sacramento - KCP ( sac choose different gaurd who can defend)
8 Detroit - B McLemore ( more of a sweet shooter for Drummond)
9 Utah - D Shroeder ( way better then trey burke)
10 Portland - S Adams ( Adams + Aldridge would of been fun)

Unlucky c zeller, k Olynyk, A Crabbe, g Dieng.

17 Jul 2017 14:33:39
My retake of that top 10

1. Cleveland - Giannis Antetokounmpo ( Kyrie, Wiggins, Greek freak would be cool)
2. Orlando - Cj McCollom ( no clear option grabbing a 20+ point player isn't bad )
3. Washington - Rudy Gobert ( a core now of Wall, Beal and Gobert would be scary)
4. Charlotte - Nerlons Noel ( defensive beast to pair with walker and mkg)
5. Phoenix - Otto Porter ( adds defence and 3pt shooting next to booker and Bledsoe)
6. Philadelphia - Victor Oladipo ( needed everything best player available )
7. Sacramento - KCP ( sac town can't develop sg's but kcp can defend well)
8. Detroit - Ben McLemore ( with right development could become sweet 3 and d )
9. Utah - Dennis Schroeder ( they were looking for a pg and he's a lot better then Burke)
10. Portland - Steven Adams (Adams and Aldridge pairing would compliment each other)



Unlucky - Cody Zeller, Allen Crabbe, Gorgui Dieng, Kelly Olynyk.

12 Jul 2017 20:00:01
Bucks Rockets
John Henson and Telly for Ryan Anderson

Bucks 76ers
Monroe and 1st rd pick 2018 for Jahil Okafor

Sign Ian Clark

Brogdon,Delly,Payton II
Middleton,Clark,Koenig
Antetekoumnpo,Snell
Anderson,Parker,Wilson
Maker,Okafor,Hawes

I don't care if any of you don't like these trades. And The Dark Side idc what you think either

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12 Jul 2017 22:18:00
Henson and Hawes (expiring) could probably get Anderson so the Rockets could flip them for Melo. I'm not sure with Parker coming back Anderson is needed though unless they find a deal for Parker.

Since Monroe is expiring, I don't see much of a reason to dump him at this point. Maybe, before free agency open up to try to add to the roster, but not now. He's a better player than Okafor and even a mid to late first probably has more potential than Okafor at this point.

12 Jul 2017 23:39:13
This is good, but there's not much defense with those trades, and okafor sucks

13 Jul 2017 03:46:44
vaughn is behind snell and i think a new scenery for okafor.

13 Jul 2017 16:49:20
Unless the new scenery is going to make Okafor more athletic, I'm not sure it will matter.

13 Jul 2017 19:58:11
rkenne_16 you probably have a point but maybe it will help him.

Plus i forgot to put in a 1st rd pick in with the rockets trade. Rockets give RA abd 1st rd pick 2018

Idk about Ian Clark Or Bazz. I didn't know which one to put in or who is better for the bucks so i guessed.

 


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