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17 Aug 2018 18:41:12
Taking into account fit together, what's the best 10 man rotation in today's league?

I'd go

Curry/Harden
Leonard/ Thompson
Durant/George
Lebron/ Antetokounmpo
Davis/Gobert



This is assuming Leonard is healthy and close to the same player. My back up 4 and 5 came down to Giannis, Gobert, and Green. I chose Giannis over Green for his offensive ability and freak athleticism and Gobert, because it gives you an ability to play big. Multiple players on the team could give you something close to Draymond and that can't really be said about Gobert. I chose George over Butler because he's the better shooter. I considered Chris Paul at point, because of his defense. Then reconsidered because you could throw Lebron at point for stretches if you wanted to go defense heavy. Also, because Harden is an offensive machine and Curry's range just gives the opposing team to much area to cover. Westbrook is probably a top 5 or 10 player, but his lack of ability without the ball seems like a bad fit next to most of these guys imo.

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17 Aug 2018 19:27:00
Jokic/ Embid
Davis/ Lbj
Giannis/ Durant
Thompson/ Butler
Irving/ Paul.

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17 Aug 2018 19:59:24
I do same as yours just switch harden for Irving.

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17 Aug 2018 23:12:05
Starting lineup: Curry, Durant, Giannis, Lebron, Davis. Guard a lineup that Lebron is the second smallest player. That size (without being “bigs”) is unstoppable on both ends of the court.

Reserves: Harden, Klay Thompson, Leonard (assuming he’s 100%), Lillard (homer pick), Gobert. A bunch of great shooters and two of the best defenders in the NBA. All of those guys can play off the ball to the ball dominant starters.

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18 Aug 2018 01:35:56
Curry/ Kyrie
Harden/ Thompson
Lebron/ Kawhi
Durant/ Davis
Embiid/ Kat.

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16 Aug 2018 19:28:11
who would you rather have?

Donavan Mitchell or Devin Booker?

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16 Aug 2018 19:49:22
Mitchell.

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16 Aug 2018 20:18:09
Factoring in contract situations? Mithcell

Ignoring contracts (I get either with a 5 year max deal) : It's a wash. Booker has better stats across the board, but Mitchell is on a more successful team (with a MUCH better team around him) . This might be a question that is asked for the next decade.

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17 Aug 2018 00:03:29
Booker does not have better stats across the board. They shoot the same percentage. Booker has led his team to nothing. Mitchell as a rookie led his team to the playoffs. Booker doesn’t play defense. Mitchell is a beast all around.

Taking into account contracts or ignoring, Mitchell 100 times out of 100.

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17 Aug 2018 00:10:15
Mitchell proved he can be the first option on a good team until Booker can do that it’s hard to argue he’s the better option. There are just to many players that have put up big stats on bad teams to know how good they are and how much of it’s just empty stats.

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17 Aug 2018 01:36:46
Booker is small version of Minnesota's Kevin Love. Mitchell all the way.

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17 Aug 2018 18:14:02
rkenne: Without Gobert, Utah was 11-16. Mitchell isn't the main reason that team is good. Gobert is.

Not trying to discount anything Mitchell does, he's absolutely great. But saying that team success is the reason one is better than the other isn't fair, because Mitchell plays with a MUCH better team. Not everyone is drafted into a perfect situation like Mitchell was.

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17 Aug 2018 19:26:21
Great point bmiller. And since booker has been drafted. And since he has been the leader of the team.

They haven’t had a season with a winning percentage over 30%

Gobert is a part. And clearly so is Mitchell. Jazz lost their best player. And barely went down in performance.

Mitchel. Flat out.

Booker isn’t a top 30 player. He only provides scoring. Nothing else. And he scores as efficiently than Wiggins. I mean this is his first year cracking 50% eFg. That’s pitiful.

I honestly think he is the most overrated player in the league. It was Wiggins. Until he got that extension and everyone realized it was an awful move.

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17 Aug 2018 23:16:38
No way Mitchell is considered a top 30 player yet either.

Booker’s best teammate so far has been.? I honestly have nothing. Warren? (Wow, that’s horrible if he’s the best) .

Considering a top 10-15 scorer that’s 21 the most overrated player in the NBA is silly. he's not Lebron or Kobe, but he’s really good. Comparing him to Love or Cousins is probably fair. And both of those guys are really good.

Can you win a ring with booker as your #1 option? Probably not. Can you with Mitchell? I don’t think so either.

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16 Aug 2018 14:34:05
Twolves and Celtics are very quiet on their offseason..

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16 Aug 2018 15:01:04
The Wolves are such a mess right now that they almost have to just try to figure out if they can fix what they have.

For Boston, unless you make a big trade, what can you do? They already have a pretty set rotation and they don’t have capspace.

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16 Aug 2018 19:23:37
Celts are busy going over future lottery pick prospects with the scouting crew. Keeping close tabs on zion Williamson.

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16 Aug 2018 21:15:22
Portland, Jazz, Pistons, Heat were all relatively quite.

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16 Aug 2018 09:10:37
Who is the top 5 countries in basketball you can start with USA ,

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16 Aug 2018 10:09:28
Usa, Spain, France, Serbia, Lithuania are probably top 5. Slovenia, Croatia, Argentina, Australia, Greece, Turkey after top 5.

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16 Aug 2018 13:27:54
France, Spain, Serbia, Australia, and Canada.

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16 Aug 2018 19:26:11
The Philippines are #1. They have more fans, players than any other country per capita. Basketball is the #1 sport hands down there.

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16 Aug 2018 21:17:39
i See Australia getting number 2 next couple of years Simmons, bogut, patty mills, maker, smoking joe, pretty handy starting five.

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16 Aug 2018 22:19:12
Your going to want exum on that team.

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17 Aug 2018 00:05:11
Hahahahah Canada? Do they even play?

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17 Aug 2018 00:25:17
Yes that was starting 5 Exum, Delly, baynes, would be coming off the bench.

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17 Aug 2018 00:38:23
Not sure if Canada plays but u can ask wiggins, Jamal Murray olynyk, Corey Joseph, nik stauskas, Tristan Thompson and Shai gilgeous alaxander looks to have a bright future . Not world beaters but not every team is USA .

Anyways it’s not like there was a back to back mvp like Steve Nash born in Canada.
Not like the man who created the sport could have been Canadian?

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17 Aug 2018 05:56:27
Btec, any country complaining that Jordan Clarkson wasn’t allowed to play for them is automatically disqualified from any list having to do with basketball.

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17 Aug 2018 12:46:58
What is your problem rkenne?

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17 Aug 2018 13:52:54
It’s a joke USA.

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17 Aug 2018 19:27:53
Question was top 5 countries. The best of the best you got for Canada is staukas Wiggins Olynyk? Hysterical.

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17 Aug 2018 19:33:01
Seriously north side. It was a question of top 5 countries in basketball. You list 5 scrubs. A player that was relevant a decade ago. And the creator of the sport over a hundred years ago. Not that he created it in Canada. But that he was born there so that counts.

Hysterical.

Please. In all seriousness. Is there a single all star from Canada? Because there are all stars in the past 5 years from many non USA countries. So if you want to get all butt hurt about that comment, perhaps counter it with decent info. Not ugly Olynyk and staukas.

Hysterical.

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18 Aug 2018 01:45:17
Wish Kyrie had of played for Australia really could of cemented a top 3 spot in the rankings. Last World Cup we really took it to team USA for 90% of the game and bloody melo caught fire something about that guy in team USA he plays like a legend.

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18 Aug 2018 01:48:41
Nice having you back hamburger. I agree.

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16 Aug 2018 00:43:43
Too bad derozan isn't a rap anymore. Was hoping he would have harder to reach stats and go down as the best raptor until the next star comes.
I think that played into him wanting to stay also , hard to be a franchise leader in multiple stats , even if the raps are only 20 something years young.
Players don't stay their whole career and teams don't keep them that long anymore usually.

Paul pierce (who I never liked as a player or person with terrible opinions) needs to get off that "players have no loyalty" tip.

Easy for him to say when he had a rare career to spend 15 years with a franchise .
He is super overrated and accomplished nothing until Garnett and Allen came. Pretty sure they were bottom feeders with him prior to that year. Yet always has someone to judge.
Toronto and derozan , Indiana and lance there's plenty of examples of teams not being loyal it works both ways.

The truth

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16 Aug 2018 18:47:45
Player loyalty is a joke. Teams have zero loyalty. Fans have little loyalty. But players are supposed to have some? It’s a business, and players should make the best decision for them. In any other job/ industry, you have the choice to move to where you want to live and work where you want to work. But pro at athletes aren’t allowed? That’s garbage.

Complaining about stars leaving to find more help is crap too. Not everyone is draft in a situation like Jordan (with Pippen and Jackson), or Bird (how many hall of famers was he surrounded by? ), or Magic (again, how many hall of famers did he play with? ) . If Jordan’s best teammate was Mo Williams his first 8 years in the NBA, he would have left Chicago.

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17 Aug 2018 00:08:45
Paul pierce. 6 years before the addition of Garnett and Allen. 4 made the playoffs. When he was the major star of the team. The year they were bottom feeders, pierce missed half the year.

Next point.

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17 Aug 2018 00:45:12
In those 6 years they had a losing record . with all that history u shouldn’t brag about 6 years that Wernt even 500 ball.
You can however brag about getting swept in 2 of those playoff appearances, or the 1st round exits, or never reaching 50 wins, only getting more then 45 wins once .

Ya next point indeed. Next point is Allen and Garnett came the year after they won 24 games and won a championship . yea he didn’t ride any coat tails there.

To your point that he only played half that season . the season prior to that they only won 33.

Guess your right he may be top 5 all time . or a slightly above average player that hit some big shots and got over rated .

My point had more to do with him judging about other people and making bone headed remarks . But next point.

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17 Aug 2018 06:00:34
Peirce was a great player and might have been underrated really, but he’s a terrible analyst.

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15 Aug 2018 00:27:37
Who wins?

Team 1
Trae Young
Donavan Mitchell
Ben Simmons
Jaren Jackson
De'Andre Ayton

Team 2
Lonzo Ball
Luka Doncic
Jayson Tatum
Marvin Bagley
Mo Bamba

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15 Aug 2018 04:25:26
No one knows what 6 of the players will look like against nba players. It’s impossible to even give an educated guess.

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15 Aug 2018 05:19:04
I’ll take team 1 all day. They fit amazing together.

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16 Aug 2018 11:46:22
Team e can shoot better.

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17 Aug 2018 00:09:50
We know what Bagley Bamba and ball play like. None can shoot and only one can possibly play defense.

Team a crushes them.

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13 Aug 2018 13:52:50
Both The Nets and the Clippers have losing records most of the time, but they have a rich owner and they're in a big market. Do you guys believe they can become a big free agent destination in the future?

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13 Aug 2018 15:38:31
Nets: Maybe
Clippers: Probably not

If someone wants to go to LA, the Lakers beat them, so the Clippers probably can't draw much so long as the Lakers have cap space/ flexibility.

As much as NY is talked about as a major draw, I don't actuallly believe it is. The Nets are an improving franchise with a solid front office finally, so they could turn it around. But I'll believe it when I see it.

NY is a lot like Notre Dame in college football, it rides off of history from before I was born.

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13 Aug 2018 18:03:42
Clippers had a winning record last year didn't they? Haven't they also had a pretty good ladt 5-7 seasons in terms of winning? It's not like they are the kings or something.

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13 Aug 2018 18:32:15
Lob city had a great run, but they didn't play a conference final.
Before lob city they had a winning record in 2006 (47-35) With Brand and Maggete as stars.
They made the playoffs in 96 with only 36 wins and L Vaught and B williams as star players
And the 1991-1993 Clippers had two playoff first round exits with M Jackson- R Harper and D Manning.
And the San Diego Clippers never made it to the playoffs.

The Clippers could be the kings :-) :-) :-)

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13 Aug 2018 19:49:14
The clippers would have been the kings if not for the Paul>Lakers trade veto. If Paul goes to the Lakers, the Clippers are basically the Kings (griffin and cousins leading bad teams) .

They’ve never pulled a meaningful free agent.

They did have a nice run, and I don’t think they go back to the Clippers of old. They’ll be a decent team with their ownership and management. But I don’t think that high end free agents will consider them.

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13 Aug 2018 22:15:18
We will find out next summer. Brooklyn will have 2 max slots with some young talent.

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14 Aug 2018 14:10:32
1st bmiller your talking about the 2 most popular cities in the country, brooklyn existed less than 10 yrs in brooklyn and your comparing them to notre dame. Worst part is the people who believe you. that's la and ny haters like u. U should say that about knicks and lakers, you might have a point. let's face it any player if the situation or cap is right, would choice lakers and knicks before any other city bc of marketing money.

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14 Aug 2018 14:21:46
Brooklyn and Clippers far better attraction to free agents than Portland.

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14 Aug 2018 15:32:29
Yeah, and Portland can't land a major free agent. They never have, they never will. I know that about my team. Knicks fans lie to themselves that they're still a free agent destination, when they're not. If Portland and the Knicks both had max FA money, I would expect both to waste it on a player like Kanter (Portland originally signed that deal, the Knicks now own it! )

You say that any player would pick the Knicks, but only one (Amare) has in the last 20 years. No one wants to play for the Knicks. It's probably more to do with the horrible ownership and management than the city, but I really think that the "mecca of basketball" thing isn't true anymore.

I'm not a big city hater, I'm a realist. The Lakers are a destination. Miami is a destination. The Knicks aren't. The Clippers aren't. That's not my opinion, that's history.

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14 Aug 2018 16:13:23
Just because of the long term success, the way they’ve treated their stars/ former stars, history of the Lakers, and all of the players in the history of the franchise, it’s hard to imagine the Clippers ever having any where near the pull that the Lakers have. They’re so far from equal footing that I don’t think the Clippers will ever have much more than a slight advantage over the smaller market teams in free agency.

It’s much easier to think the Nets could draw closer to the Knicks. It’s not like the Knicks have pulled a ton of elite free agents, as long as Dolan is the owner player have to worry about that mess, the franchise has been pretty bad for the past 20+ years, it’s overal history is overstated in general, and they’ve treated former stars terribly. It’s not hard to imagine the Nets proving over the next ten years that they’re the destination in New York and pulling close to even as a free agent destination long term.

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14 Aug 2018 18:04:56
The Mecca of basketball is L. A. Bmiller66. NY is just a city where it is played. The true blue meca is Kansas, that's where it began, but L. A. Is the capital city of basketball in America now. Seattle used to be a big one too, and still is, just not in the NBA.

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14 Aug 2018 21:40:11
The "Mecca of Basketball" is NY. That's what they call it. I didn't make that up.

My point was what you said though, that LA is really the current basketball capital. At least for pro basketball.

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15 Aug 2018 00:21:54
Nobody wants to play in ny Porzingis doesn’t even want to play there and that (huge trade for carmelo) well we all know how that turned out! The owner and front office is a joke! And I can’t wait till Brooklyn gets jimmy and kyrie. I live in manhattan 4 months out of the year so I’ll actually see exciting basketball!

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16 Aug 2018 00:00:14
It started in Ontario where James Naismith was born and brought it to merica.

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12 Aug 2018 18:29:54
What's a good fit for Hassan Whiteside?

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12 Aug 2018 19:27:44
He'd be good with the Lakers but not at 25-27 mil. The tandem of McGee and he would be solid rim protection. Lakers, if lbj decides to play D would be one of the best defensive teams in the league if not the best.

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12 Aug 2018 21:07:44
Maimi: T Thompson+ Korver+ 2rnd pick
Cle: T Thompson.

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12 Aug 2018 22:08:48
Who plays fourth quarter? Neither McGee or whitesides good at line and both are bonehead with 20 plus minutes played.

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12 Aug 2018 23:45:36
They'd be iffy on perimeter D as well but overall with the bad free throws and iffy perimeter D I still think they would have one of the best Defenses in the league with whiteside especially rim protection.

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13 Aug 2018 14:04:15
Whiteside is the perfect example of someone playing great for a contract. Since his big contract, he has declined incredibly in all areas of the game, minus stats. His defense at this point is average. If you check his on/ off stats related to defense, he literally made no difference this past year. I don't think he has value on any team. unless its a contract year. So perhaps getting him next year would be great.

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12 Aug 2018 16:12:18
Why would the Celtics consider that deal. Hayward is coming off a serious injury but since his contract has multiple years remaining so he has trade value. Porzingis possibly plays half a year while Kyrie is on an expiring deal as well. The C's have been rumored to like Porzingis but he has to prove he can come back being a big with a serious leg injury. The other 3 the C's get have little to no value.

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12 Aug 2018 01:13:11
Name the team u think has the best chance of dethroning the Warriors and why.

I say the Celtics. They are the deepest team in the team with arguably the best coach. Health has been an issue but they are definitely coming out of the East imo. The warriors path to the finals is much more draining and Boston has played the Warriors tough under Stevens. Thoughts and opinions.

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12 Aug 2018 05:58:33
Idk about that. The Celtics could have to possibly go through both the 76ers and raptors to get to the finals depending on how the seeds shake out.

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12 Aug 2018 19:39:30
Celtics and pacers will be tough teams. Wizards could have a good season too. Sixers will be the same. Unless ben Simmons shows up with a jump shot. Milwaukee will be a little better too. Raptors are a crap shoot. Teams take years to develop chemistry. Asking perfection out of the raptors is a lot when every guy on the team know's its a one season go. Monroe is the replacement for Poetl? That's not good for the defense.

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