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22 Nov 2017 15:37:46
The Cavs get Bazemore and Dedmond

The Hawks get Deng, Shumpert, Zizic, Osman, Zubac, the Lakers 2020 1st top 5 protected, the Cavs 2021 first top 10 protected and a second from both

The Lakers get Frye(exp) and Bellineli (exp)

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22 Nov 2017 16:55:45
None of those players help the Hawks, and the draft choices are too far down the road to be valuable. Looks like the Cavs dump unwanted bodies and the Lakers dump Deng.

22 Nov 2017 17:53:43
Shumps expiring will have some value next year, Osman, Zizic and Zubac are all decent prospects to throw into their rebuilding efforts, the Hawks will be rebuilding for atleast the next 4 years so the picks will be fine and having extra picks coming out of a rebuild have worked pretty well for teams like the Cavs, Boston, and Philly. This would give them 7 firsts in the next 4 drafts. They end up with 3 good rebuilding assets 2 decent ones and 2 low end ones for players that don't look to be in their long term plans and use of their capspace, which is going to be hard to use for the next 3 years any way and get out from under their worst contract to boot.

23 Nov 2017 03:52:50
good additions for the cavs, two guys that can really help their D.

23 Nov 2017 15:21:10
i like this trade,
maybe Atlanta could get better picks for taking bad contracts
Cleveland should accept a lesser protection (top 5)

22 Nov 2017 14:51:28
Chicago gets Deng, Shumpert (uses trade exception), Randle, Zizic, Osman, the Cavs 2021 first top 10 protected

The Cavs get R. Lopez and Green

The Spurs get Clarkson and a Cavs 2nd

The Lakers get Pondexter (exp) and Frye (exp)

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22 Nov 2017 15:11:48
I can't see the Bulls doing this. They would want some extra draft picks.

22 Nov 2017 08:05:30
Bulls - Knicks - Lakers

Bulls gets:
2019 1st Knicks (1-5 and 20-30 protected)
2020 1st Lakers (Top 5 protected)
2018 2nd back (via Knicks)
2018 2nd Denver (via Lakers)
2019 2nd back (via Lakers)

Knicks gets:

Lakers gets:

Fair value?

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22 Nov 2017 14:29:44
I don't think one first (the seconds do little to sweeten the deal as they can be had fairly cheap) gets rid of either Noah or Deng for expiring contracts or cap space alone. When you factor in that the Bulls give up Lopez and Mirotic, who both have positive value imo, this is really bad for the Bulls.

22 Nov 2017 07:54:35
Knicks - Timberwolves

Knicks gets:
Aldrich (waive)
Georges-Hunt (waive)
2018 1st from Thunder (via Timberwolves)

Timberwolves gets:

Knicks gets assets for the future while Minnesota gets a much stronger bench for the playoffs.

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21 Nov 2017 20:28:28
Bulls trades:
Deng, Zubac and 2019 CHI return 2019 second round pick + for Mirotic (exp) Zipser
Leuer, Marjanovic and DET 2018 1st round pick for R. Lopez, Q. Pondexter (exp)

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21 Nov 2017 21:05:06
That's not even close to enough to get rid of Deng and I don't see Detroit needing a back up center on Lopez' level if it costs a first.

22 Nov 2017 14:29:36
DET get's rid of 17 million bad contracts (Leuer s contract is 3 years long) and get a good back up who has expiring contract next year (so the 1st round pick (20-30) is worth it) .

21 Nov 2017 17:45:37
Trade deadline

Cavs - Clippers

Cavs gets:
Future 2nd round pick

Clippers gets:
2018 1st from Nets (via Cavs)

Cavs go all in this year and help their defense with DeAndre and help their bench with Williams. Both are expiring so it's a big risk, but another championship in Cleveland may be the only thing that keeps LeBron next year.

Clippers does this trade if they won't make the playoffs and tries to find a star in the draft next year. Griffin have 5 years left on his deal and finding some youth to pair with him wouldn't be the worst thing.

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21 Nov 2017 19:23:35
If the Cavs are giving up the Nets pick, I think it would have to be Beverly as a sweetener rather than Williams. The Cavs have to many to feed on the offensive end as it is and struggle on defense. Williams isn't a player that's going to give them something the combination of IT, Lebron, Rose, Wade, Korver, and Jr don't already give
them and he's not going to help on the defensive end. Jordan is significant upgrade over TT, but I don't think it's enough to get the Nets pick from the Cavs unless it comes with another elite defender that would close up the finals holes left on the roster.

21 Nov 2017 13:55:16

MEM get: Joakim Noah, Frank Ntilinka, Willy Hernangomez, and 2018 1st DP NYK

pg. Ntilinka/ Chalmers
sg. Evans/ McLemore
sf. Parsons/ Ennis
pf. Gasol/ Wright
c. Hernangomez/ Noah

NYK get: Mike Conley

pg. Conley/ Jack
sg. THJ/ Lee
sf. McDermott/ Thomas
pf. Porzingis/ Beasley
c. Kanter/ OQuinn

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21 Nov 2017 15:00:06
I like this trade for Memphis. They can start a rebuilt.

This would be a typical Dolan trade. And even not a bad one. Conley would be an All star in the East. But NY should rebuilt with young talents Conley is already 30 years old.

21 Nov 2017 15:47:28
the level porzingis is playing at now; they might as well try to build a contender around him. Conley is not super athletic, nor does he crash the rim at all.. he will remain healthy/all star caliber for the next 5-7 years. Why rebuild when you can contend?

21 Nov 2017 16:26:05
Mr. big, because they're only contending for a low seed that has no chance of a championship.

21 Nov 2017 17:00:55
with conley they would be contending for a higher seed. & likely could land another big FA.

21 Nov 2017 18:15:58
I like the trade. They also have the chance for a big FA without Noah. One of the best proposals the last months. Could be that both teams would agree in the trade.

21 Nov 2017 20:16:20
The Knicks won't have money this summer or next to sign free agents and will have to pay Porzingas the next summer. Unless something like the CP3 trade would happen, it would be hard for the Knicks to get another star and are they probably wouldn't make it out of the first round with Conley.

22 Nov 2017 09:14:14
If connely went to the Knicks could help lure lebron.

20 Nov 2017 21:31:44

Suns trade Monroe, Daniels, 2nd rounder for Thompson, Smith and Nets pick (plus trade exception).

Cavs get 9 million in cap space which they can possibly use to acquire another player, a frontcourt and SG upgrade to make another run at the title while they still have LBJ.

Suns get 30 million in bad contracts for three years in exchange for a top 10, possible top 3 pick.

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20 Nov 2017 21:46:09
Wow, that’s horrible. You can’t get the nets pick for just a salary dump.

20 Nov 2017 22:24:39
I assume you forgot Booker and Jackson in the trade?

20 Nov 2017 23:58:52
No way Cleve makes this deal and PHX wouldn't either. Thompson is a R. Paul client (bad blood there), Smith is not the kind of veteran a team like PHX needs, or wants. Mostly, though, the draft pick won't move in a deal like this.

21 Nov 2017 01:59:38
Even with bad fits and bad blood, Phoenix makes that trade all day. They could easily flip Thompson, and might be able to flip Smith (at least for a bad contract with a better attitude) .

21 Nov 2017 15:13:09
No way Cavs give up the Nets pick for that. Even if that pick ends up conveying around 7-10th, it's still too much to give up for that package.

Also, while I'm not the biggest fan of either Thompson or Smith, they are not "salary dump" players. They're both solid contributors on contracts that are a little more than what they should be, but they're not the Jo Noah's of the L either.

23 Nov 2017 03:44:49
The suns have no interest in acquiring tristan thompson. Reasons are obvious.

20 Nov 2017 09:58:37

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20 Nov 2017 08:36:20
So I've been seeing this trade proposal recently. who wins?


Melo, Patterson for Love, Crowder

Westbrook, Felton
Roberson, Abrines
George, Grant
Love, Crowder
Adams, Johnson

IT, Rose
Smith, Wade, Shumpert
James, Green, Korver
Anthony, Patterson
TT, Frye

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20 Nov 2017 08:43:18

Love is a better rebounder and 3-point shooter.
And he's younger than Carmelo.

20 Nov 2017 09:48:23
Is it possible or nah? Lol

20 Nov 2017 11:09:54
The Cavs never cosidered Love for Melo and it's not all of a sudden going to change, Love has far more value, is younger is on a better contract, and is a better player in almost every way. On top of that, why would the Cavs trade Crowder for Patterson? The Cavs get robbed blind and the trade doesn't make any sense.

21 Nov 2017 15:14:51
I think Patterson for Crowder is more egregious than Melo for Love.

21 Nov 2017 15:59:22
Triangle, you might be right. Either swap individually is god awful for the Cavs.


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