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22 Sep 2017 01:35:27
CLE gets DeMarcus Cousins and 2nd rounder

NO gets BKN pick Tristan Thompson and Iman Shumpert.


1.) 22 Sep 2017 05:20:07

2.) 22 Sep 2017 08:58:14
maybe at the deadline but i'd say this is pretty unlikely right now.

3.) 22 Sep 2017 11:08:50
There are maybe a dozen teams who could put together a better offer for Cousins than that one. Shumpert has very little value.

4.) 22 Sep 2017 15:23:16
I don't think that this would be the offer, but where were all these great offers for Cousins 6 months ago when teams could have had him for a year and a half Supercollider? I just don't understand this expectation that all of a sudden Cousins value has increased. It will probably play out until the allstar break before they would start shopping him. Trading for him would be a huge risk that only seems worth it for a handful of teams.

5.) 22 Sep 2017 22:45:46
I've made my opinion on the Cousins to Cavs for peanuts trade ideas a few times before and agree w SuperCollider.

6.) 23 Sep 2017 00:17:14
Dacman, what kind of return are you expecting if it looks like he isn't resigning? The Pelicans got him for peanuts. The 10th pick and Hield, who's 23 and looked like garbage before he got to the Kings isn't much and the Pelicans would be lucky to get anything close to that return for a half year of him.

7.) 23 Sep 2017 14:43:49
What does it matter what SAC settled for? What matters is what NOLA can get for him now. And outside the Bkn pick there is no value in that trade. Anyone other than a Cavs fan would see that.



04 Sep 2017 19:56:03
BOS gets: Marcus Morris

WAS gets: 2 second round picks.


1.) 04 Sep 2017 20:58:48
Morris scored 15 a game last year and is a solid versatile defender. I don't see Washington moving him unless they get something fairly big back. Plus Boston doesn't have the cap space to take him on for nothing.

2.) 04 Sep 2017 22:46:25
You mean Markieff, Boston already has Marcus.

3.) 05 Sep 2017 00:13:58
I think he meant Morris to Wizards for 2 picks.

4.) 05 Sep 2017 01:48:10
ok well how would u build a trade get the Morris Bros in BOS? I think it would be a good fit.

5.) 05 Sep 2017 04:56:01
I don't think the Celtics really need both since they have multiple versatile forwards already. Also, the Wizards really don't have anyone to replace Morris, but maybe something like Smart, Yabusele, and a 2nd for Morris is decent value on both ends, but it creates a hole for Washington and the Celtics give up young talent for a player they don't need.

6.) 05 Sep 2017 14:55:27
No way the Celtics would trade Morris to Washington for 2 2nd Rd picks. Especially considering they traded Avert Bradley to get him lol. Markief, Morris in Boston would be interesting, but no way the C's are trading Smart. He's probably as untouchable as you can get at this point.

7.) 05 Sep 2017 15:40:29
Yumbo, I think the Celtics probably value Smart more than most other teams, but really? 'Untouchable as you can get. ' Really? If the the Bulls call tomorrow and offer up their first round pick unprotected, Ainge would turn it down?



19 Jun 2017 19:19:35
BOS gets: Jimmy Butler and #16

Bulls get: #3, PHI pick, MEM pick, LAC pick, Terry Rozier and Jaylen Brown

Bulls get picks and force a Wade opt out. Draft Jackson

Rozier/ Grant
Jackson Zipser

Young enough to run. Skilled enough to design an offense around. Quicker rebuild. Lots of playing time available. Cap space to add shooting..Thoughts


1.) 19 Jun 2017 21:34:23
That's a pretty hefty price to pay for Butler, not a fan of it for the Celtics especially when Hayward isn't much worse and they could possibly get him for nothing.



26 Mar 2017 06:27:45
Detroit get: BKN 2018 pick, MEM pick, Jaylen Brown and a 2020 second

Celtcs get: Andre Drummond and 2018 2nd rounder


1.) 26 Mar 2017 06:51:39
BOS would never do this.

2.) 26 Mar 2017 16:23:04
Boston would be tempted, but don't think they would include Brown, maybe Rozier. They have to do something because their bigs will be let go this summer.



10 Feb 2017 05:08:05
BOS gets Jimmy Butler, Shumpert, Gibson

CLE gets Dwyane Wade,Rondo

CHI gets Smart, J Brown, Crowder Felder, Liggins, future first swap with CLE, CLE 2020 first, BKN 2017 pick and the MEM pick.


Butler. WIN NOW


James. WIN NOW


Brown/Valentine. REBUILD


1.) 10 Feb 2017 05:41:44
Makes sense. Good idea.

2.) 10 Feb 2017 06:43:11
So basically boston has become super overpowered and cleveland has become a bit weaker but bulls got a nice deal

Shump is prob the best wing defender and liggins is a solid defender

Boston now has
a point gaurd whos in race for MVP
a sg who can light it up and defend just about anyone
a small forward who can lock up most players and light it up
a pf who can stretch the floor
a center who does everything

yep its official if boston gets that they are going to beat warriors.

3.) 10 Feb 2017 06:57:24
Celtics GM is no Billy King.

4.) 10 Feb 2017 08:47:53
CLE taking too much salary.

5.) 10 Feb 2017 09:24:29
I like it for all parties value wise but salary wise it doesn't work unfortunately. Don't know the exact numbers but I think Boston is taking in 20 mill or so and so is the Cavs. Even with the Cavs trade exceptions they can't make it work for them and even adding Amir Johnson I don't think it works for the Celtics so adjusting is needed.

6.) 10 Feb 2017 15:16:41
If the money works I actually like this deal for everyone.

7.) 10 Feb 2017 16:55:29
No trade will work on a trade machine because Cav's are way over the payroll limit, that being said, Boston is not giving up all 3 (Smart-Crowder-Brown) plus 17 pick and 19 Mem pick for Butler, Shumpert and a rental. Doesn't make sense in the long run.

8.) 10 Feb 2017 18:42:52
To me, at a glance it looks like Boston is giving up too much and Cleveland isn't giving up much at all.

Shumpert, Felder and liggins along with a late first and swap that will never convey seems a bit light to me.

I also think Boston would rather keep crowder then have shumpert and gibson. Neither guy to me has value much more then a 2nd rounder at this point.

Also, was bradley also traded, or do you have shumpert starting over him in your projected lineup?




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20 Sep 2017 05:35:15
What team could Aaron Gordon blossom with?


1.) 20 Sep 2017 16:22:27
I would say Houston. Dantoni's system turns good athletes into great scorers. He's a poor shooter at this point, but with the looks he would get there, the green light he would have, and the elite passers throwing him the ball, he could become a much better shooter. His ability to play the four and run the floor like a gazelle would be perfect in the fast pace. Plus he is a great finisher in transition. On the other side, if they get other teams playing fast, his shot blocking, length and athleticism could be used to stop fast breaks and steal possessions. Which is really the most you can ask for from a Dantoni defense.

2.) 22 Sep 2017 18:47:11
Love that idea rkenne_16. Could be the rockets version of the Matrix.

3.) 23 Sep 2017 12:02:10
Any fast tempo style team that he plays at power forward
I do like the Shawn Marion type comparison.



21 Jun 2017 16:29:43
Although Wade opted in, I'd still trade Butler and allow Wade to recruit. Thoughts....


1.) 21 Jun 2017 18:31:18
Is there anything to recruit to once Butler is gone? Wade is about done, who knows what you're going to get out of Rondo, and the rest of the team is pretty bad. Unless they can pull an amazing haul for Butler, they're looking at a 4 or 5 year rebuild.

2.) 21 Jun 2017 21:44:30
Who did Wade have to recruit with in 09??

3.) 21 Jun 2017 23:33:04
He was a top 5 player at the time. He's 2 or 3 years away from retiring and may not even be a starting level player next year.

4.) 22 Jun 2017 02:22:09
Wade isn't recruiting anyone at this stage of his career. If Bulls want to attract FA they should keep Butler end of story. They haven't been able to successfully build around Butler past few years (Rondo and Wade were awful fits with him) . I think the issue with Bulls is in the front office. Dealing Butler doesn't really help that but it buys you more time since if they got say #3 pick and next years Brooklyn pick those guys would likely still be around when they finally make front office changes where Butler is likely gone in two years.



28 Mar 2017 15:13:14
I think Derrick Rose could flourish as a SG for a team with length (I. e. NO, CHA, PHI) . What's your opinion?


1.) 28 Mar 2017 18:39:07
Disagree. Rose can be a solid scorer when the ball is in his hands but off-ball he isn't very effective. He is shooting an awful 21.7% from 3pt range this season. Defensively he isn't that great and doesn't put too much effort in to it so I think at 6ft 3 he'd be a significant liability on that end. Don't think it would work to well offensively or defensively. He could play sg for stints but I don't think he'd be nearly as effective there are he would as a pg.

2.) 28 Mar 2017 19:08:34
agreed jaw. fan of drose before the injury. But that was because i didn't really follow him. He is an ineffective passer, a bad jump shooter and a TERRIBLE defender. Honestly, at this point, I would consider him a Rudy Gay type of player. Just a guy that gets points, looks like he's decent, gets too much money, but his inefficiency and lack of play on both ends makes his team worse.



28 Feb 2017 16:56:10
If D. Rose is waived I think he'll be a good pick up for New Orleans to start @ the 2.


1.) 28 Feb 2017 19:20:46
Why would D. Rose be waved?

2.) 01 Mar 2017 06:55:42
Saw an article



21 Feb 2017 17:45:28
Who could benefit by signing Derrick Rose this summer?


1.) 21 Feb 2017 19:11:04
Derrick Rose. that's about it.




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05 Sep 2017 01:48:10
ok well how would u build a trade get the Morris Bros in BOS? I think it would be a good fit.




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18 Feb 2017 13:53:45
Throw in James Young




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14 Feb 2017 20:43:16
Good trade




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30 Jan 2017 22:21:37
I like this trade. The Mavs would look promising (post Dirk) and Russ would have some real wing players filling the lanes. Plus Matthews is a pretty good 3pt shooter.




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15 Dec 2016 22:15:37
I like it for Chicago and okc. Sac might want picks.WCS is still young





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