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21 May 2018 14:19:58
Min gets Rozier, Yabu, Semi, Sacramento pick, Memphis pick and Clippers pick.

Boston gets Towns.

This is only realistic if Towns really wants out of Minny. Sacramento gets three controllable players and three picks. Rozier has obviously blossomed this season, and could take over as the lead guard next to Butler giving them not only scoring punch, but also some really good defense. Semi has shown that he can be one of those big bodied 3 and D types, and Yabu still has a lot of potential. More importantly, the Sacramento pick should be a top pick next season, and the Memphis pick should be really good down the line. That Clippers pick might wind up being good as well, and they can always throw in one of their own if they need to sweeten the pot.

Towns on the Celtics doesn't need a ton of explanation. It would leave you with Towns, Horford, Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Kyrie as your top six guys. That's absolutely killer. Then you have guys like Theis, Morris, Smart (probably), possibly Baynes, and whoever they draft this season.


That's a championship squad right there.


1.) 21 May 2018 15:22:22
Wolves would want Brown or Tatum included as well. But if DA could swing it Boston would do that trade.

2.) 21 May 2018 16:09:30
do you really think celtics will get towns to that trade? never celtics will need to throw irving or brown or tatum or hayward to trade done.

3.) 22 May 2018 23:08:21
Tatum ++++++ is the starting point I’m sure rozier would have to be included but nothing starts with towns without Tatum I’m pretty sure he’s not going anywhere!



24 May 2017 20:21:41
Talks are that the Knicks want Crowder in any kind of Melo deal. I personally don't want Melo on the Celtics, but I would love to grab Jordan from the Clippers, who would probably love to bring in Melo.

Celtics get Jordan

Clippers get Melo and Bradley

Knicks get Rivers and Crowder

The Celtics get the rebounding and rim protection they so desperately need without sacrificing everything on offense at the 5.
The Clippers get a guy in Melo who should help keep Paul around, as well as a guy in Bradley to replace Redick.
The Knicks get the guy that they want in Crowder, as well as a PG to fill the "loss" of Rose.


1.) 24 May 2017 21:54:08
I like this trade but would definitely try to substitute Smart and a pick for Bradley as they both will be due for pay raises after next year. Also I would think this would try to happen after free agency in hopes that we can land Hayward first and then add on the salary of Jordan.

2.) 25 May 2017 14:56:13
@LarryLegend- so smart and which pick would go to the Clippers?

3.) 25 May 2017 15:23:53
the knicks have no leverage in this melo ordeal. if he's on the roster he's going to play. phil has made it clear he doesn't want him on the roster. they're going to get rid of him one way or another and with melo's no trade clause, he can force his way wherever he wants. he will end up on the clippers and he's not going to have them trade one of their big 3 to do it.

4.) 25 May 2017 15:59:41
I would think Smart and the 53rd. pick.



17 May 2017 14:24:37
If CP3 goes to San Antonio, or anywhere else really.

Boston: Jordan (sign Hayward)

Clippers: Bradley, Crowder, Rozier, Boston 2018 1st round pick.

Boston is likely going to draft Fultz. At that point, they're going to have to do something with the glut of guards. Bradley has shown he's a beast, Crowder is that fantastic glue guy who does everything pretty well, and Rozier has really shown what he can do in this postseason. What they need is rebounding and rim protection. Jordan fits both bills, and they should still have room to sign a max contract in Hayward to man the SF spot.

Thomas/ Jackson
Fultz/ Smart
Hayward/ Brown/ Nader
Horford/ Yabusele/ Mickey
Jordan/ Zizic

The Clippers, on the other hand, are potentially looking at a full scale rebuild. If I'm them, I'm trying to keep myself relevant with the Lakers drafting so much potential star power. If they lose Paul, they're likely to lose Redick, and might lose Griffin as well. In that case, you can use Jordan to bring in players to fill holes in the roster. The key is, you're bringing in all three of those players totaling only 16 million for this season. Paul, Griffin, Redick and Jordan total 71 million this season. They'll finally have the financial flexibility they've been lacking for years. They'd also want to move Rivers and that stupid 11 million contract.


1.) 17 May 2017 14:56:41
I have the celtics signing hayward and trading that pick along with assets for jimmy butler and robin lopez. Giving them a lineup of:

Pg. I. Thomas
Sg. J. Butler
Sf. G. Hayward
Pf. A. Horford
C. R. Lopez.

2.) 17 May 2017 16:29:04
How does Boston pay all these guys and field a respectable bench? They have to resign Thomas at this point right? He's going to get 200 mil.

Are both crowder and Bradley gone at the end of thier contracts? What about smart? All thrse guys will be offered more money elsewhere. right?

3.) 17 May 2017 16:42:55
I tend to like junkies trade. It would put the C's right up there on the luxury threshold for 1 year though. But if your in it to win then it would be worth it. Providing you win. Also If they could swing this without giving up next years Net pick it's makes it more realistic.

No matter how one looks at it Boston will have a completely different team next year outside of IT and Horford.

4.) 17 May 2017 17:52:59
IT is not getting 200 million!

5.) 17 May 2017 19:26:41
IT will be getting the max from somewhere.179 million is the actual amount if we're being a stickler.

My point is moreso that Ainge is going to have to be very creative, and that major parts of thier current team aren't going to be there going forward if they sign/ trade for another max guy.

6.) 17 May 2017 22:21:21
Don't think that is enough to get Jordan but Celtics could really use an upgrade at the center position with some rebounding (Jordan is one of leading rebounders in NBA) .

As many alluded to the issue becomes salary. IT has been the life blood of the team so I find it tough to get rid of him but he is an aging 5ft9 guard and Fultz could potentially step into his role if they did acquire a Hayward/ Butler type that could pickup the primary scorer role. I'm not sure what his value is like but I think Horford would be a natural option to shop. Although extremely skilled he has a large contract, getting up there in age and is a bit of a tweener at this point in his career. If they added another star to IT I think he becomes an expensive 3rd option. Bradley I think also sadly has to go since they simply won't be able to afford him if they add another big name.



09 May 2017 14:56:23
Knicks get Brook Lopez, Ricky Rubio

T'Wolves get Melo

Nets get Noah, Muhammad, #7 pick from Knicks, #44 from Knicks.

The Knicks get their real PG and a real C to pair with Porzingis, along with getting out from under the Noah deal.

Melo would be a very interesting fit in Minny if he's willing to go. He would fit right into the staring lineup at PF next to Towns, and brings a veteran presence to a very young and talented group.

The Nets might be willing to do this simply to get a real player. They've got no chance of competing for the duration of Lopez' contract. They bring back a bad contract in Noah, but actually free up 4 million per year for the duration of Lopez' deal. The big get is the 1st rounder. This would give them three first rounders in this draft, but this would be their only top ten. It's a deep draft, so they should be able to get a real player at #7, and role players with potential at 22 and 27 to begin their rebuild. The only way they're luring any free agents is to drastically overpay, so the only real way to get better is with draft picks and a little luck. They would probably wind up with guys like Smith or Fox at 7, and would have the potential of guys like Kennard, Rabb, Swanigan, Anunoby, Giles, Adebayo, etc at the other two spots. Three of that group could be the core that helps bring them out of the basement.


1.) 09 May 2017 16:11:31
For MIN, Shabazz is a RFA, so this is Rubio + cap space for Melo. I don't think he'd drop the NTC, but that is probably a deal you do on value alone. I don't particularly like the fit - MIN needs a defensive PF that can protect the rim.

For NJN, they have to say yes. Eating Noah is extremely painful, but they need that #7 pick to start to rebuild.

For MIN, I think it clears them up for the future, but that might be too high a price for me.

Interesting trade.

2.) 09 May 2017 23:28:35
oops - my last line should have been "For NYK" that might be too high a price.



18 Apr 2017 16:44:11
If the Celtics get the #1 pick

Celtics trade 2017 #1 overall, 2018 Celtics and Memphis picks, Rozier, Mickey and the rights to Nader. for Porzingis

This is obviously if the rumors of Porzingis being fed up with the Knicks are accurate. The gain for the Celtics is obvious. They get a young stud PF to play alongside Horford who would fit their system perfectly. I don't think I need to argue their upside.

The Knicks would be getting the #1 pick, which could be Ball or Fultz depending on who Jackson thinks would run his triangle the best. They also wind up getting three picks in next season's draft to take anything they can get. They get Rozier, who has proven to be a capable backup PG, and Mickey. mostly thrown in for filler. The interesting guy would be Nader, who just finished up a rookie of the year campaign in the D-League. Obviously the competition isn't the same, but he's looked impressive.

That's where I would start the framework of the deal, and they still have that 2018 Nets pick to swap with one of the other 2018 picks to beef up the package during negotiations.

The bigger key for the Celtics is that they'd hold onto their cap flexibility, and would still be able to go after a guy like Hayward. With those picks gone guys like PG13 and Butler are out of the conversation, so he'd be the primary target.

All that said, I think the Porzingis stuff will blow over and they won't even consider trading him, but it's fun to speculate in the meantime.


1.) 18 Apr 2017 17:54:23
I would offer both Brkln picks, 2 2nd rd. picks as well as 1 of Smart, Crowder, Bradley or Brown. This playoff round is really showing their weakness loud and clear. Need a big big time. If the C's don't make it out of the 1st rd. DA needs to call Jackson and make an offer he can't refuse, even it means taking Melo in the deal.

2.) 18 Apr 2017 19:25:35
I don't like it for either team. The chances the Knicks find a guy agian with Poringis's potential are low and the Celtics are the 1 seed right now. If they are going to give up that much go after an established star like George or Butler.

3.) 18 Apr 2017 20:37:31
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whooooooooooa.
billj, you would really take Anthony?

4.) 18 Apr 2017 23:37:16
And Noah for Supercollider.

5.) 19 Apr 2017 01:13:14
If it would get the C's Porzingis I would do that deal. He could be traded at a later date easier with the Celtics than with NYK IMO. He might even be a different player in a Stevens system. Food for thought.

6.) 19 Apr 2017 14:53:53
I'd have to think long and hard about taking on one of the other rough contracts, be it Melo or Noah. melo can play, but he's ideally a stretch 4 which is what you're going after Porzingis for in the first place. The reason the Knicks are in the situation they are is that their top players really are at the same position. Noah brings everything you'd want in a bench big when healthy. but that contract would destroy their cap over the next few contract extensions. If Melo and/ or Noah need to go, I think you're probably looking at a third team being involved like Minny or even Denver. Melo would be a very interesting fit on both teams if he was willing to look at basketball instead of nightlife. He reportedly split from LaLa, so that might not be as big a concern.

Maybe make it so that Celtics get Porzingis, Wolves get Melo, and NY gets Rubio, Aldrich, Rozier, Mickey, #1 and two 2018 non Nets 1sts.

7.) 19 Apr 2017 19:10:26
To me the origimal deal is rozier and the first pick for zinger. The rest of the offer doesn't bring much if any value being 2 dleaguers and 2 late firsts.

The deal would start with both Brooklyn picks I think, and even then ny has no reason to trade him.

If Ainge didn't need to rip everyone off, he could have had one of the Sixers bigs over the summer. It wasn't hard to see the current bigs on the celtics (if you want to call anyone on the celtics a big) were bums.

8.) 20 Apr 2017 04:50:41
Ainge didn't rip anyone off! If you mean Bradley and Crowder they signed contracts prior to the Cap going up he didn't hold any gun to their heads to make them Sign. At that time those guys got paid accordingly with good contracts. And as far as IT, he was signed by the Suns then traded. And Brooklyn was the stupid ones for offering a gold mine for KG and Pierce. He was a freaking Genius for scoring that mother load.

9.) 20 Apr 2017 14:51:14
I could care less what the players on the celtics are making salary-wise.

I was moreso looking at his trade history along with the rumors that were floating around on and around draft night this past year regarding him unwilling to move their first rounder or really moving anything of value for anything other then a superstar (George, butler, etc. ) that would require a much larger package.

I just think he doesn't necessarily look at trade scenarios in which both teams would benefit. Only ones in which the celtics would win by a large margin.

The celtics thinking that they would have any legitimate chance at a championship with the current list of 4's and 5's they had was laughable. With all those core guys on reasonable contracts along with the addition of horford, if think they'd be trying to make a move THIS year at at least making the championship and seeing what happens.

At their current pace, they are going to need to make a lot of decisions on a lot of guys In the next two years and more then likely will end up with a team of horrors smart bradley/ crowder and a bunch of young guys in 3 years. is that championship material?




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14 May 2018 16:50:12
I just wanted to revisit this potential trade I've seen a few times on here and see what side of the fence people are falling on.

What I've seen is Tatum, Brown, Rozier and usually a pick from Boston for the Spurs' Leonard.

I've personally been against it, as I think Brown and Tatum can each be as good a player as Leonard, and I think people are finally starting to see that potential. To be clear, this is not me thinking Leonard isn't great, he's a very good player. I just think Brown and Tatum have the chance to be really special as well, and I'm already drooling over a potential Irving/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Horford death lineup.

Most folks seem to have been pretty solidly on the "do that trade for Leonard" side, but I have to think that the last few weeks have to have swung that back to at least even...thoughts?


1.) 14 May 2018 17:32:16
There is no way that deal goes down. Absolutely none. In fact, the Celtics might not do Tatum for Leonard even up.
No one knows what's going on in Leonard's mind, and if he has no problem screwing over the Spurs, he might do the same to Boston. Plus, he'll demand a max deal -- which would make it impossible to re-sign Kyrie Irving.
Maybe the Spurs could get Irving or Brown for Leonard. Or Rozier and a pick. But three starters and a pick? Not even close.

2.) 14 May 2018 17:59:44
Agree with collider, salary alone makes this deal unreasonable given the performance of the celts. Maybe Hayward straight up. I would wait and see how good Hayward is first though. Celts are really good.

3.) 15 May 2018 02:52:56
no way brown and tatum, toughest part is c’s matching kawhi salary, hayward horford irving have to be off the table, and those are their only 3 salaries over 10 mil. i think tatum+morris+rozier gets you to the 75%, i'd take that for kawhi if a better offer doesn't come thru.

4.) 15 May 2018 05:07:00
Hayward and a pick. I say sorry Stevens we getting Leonard.

5.) 15 May 2018 10:23:15
Boston should keep Tatum and Brown, they could trade Hayward for Leonard.

6.) 16 May 2018 22:19:59
Hayward Irving for Leonard Mills.



22 Jun 2017 16:49:39
Not a trade, but I just wanted to gauge how happy people would be if the dominoes all fell correctly and Ball wound up not getting picked by the Lakers, falling to Orlando or Minny later on. He's already been recruiting LeBron to a team he's not even on.


1.) 22 Jun 2017 17:02:42
Anything that gets Lavar to shut his mouth makes the world a better place.




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19 Feb 2019 15:29:18
How does the Brooklyn trade look like a win for them at all? The Celtics still have Brown and Tatum, which were because of the Brooklyn trade. Not to mention the winning basketball the team has been able to put forth since they didn't need to tank in order to get good draft picks. That alone is worth the one year of playoffs the Nets got out of the deal.




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31 Jan 2019 16:23:54
I can very much see Ainge "cheaping out. " It all depends on what he thinks is a fair value, and it all depends on who does what on his current roster over the rest of this season. Ainge is not going to make a trade unless he feels like he won it, even for a player of Davis' skill. The big sticking point is likely to be Tatum. If Tatum is included, I don't see much else other than salary and picks going back to NO. Ainge will view Tatum as too high a value.

A lot of what I've seen has people saying Tatum Brown and all the picks, and I really doubt that Ainge puts both of those guys in there. Tatum is Tatum, and I'm sure everyone understands his value. Brown, however, has gotten a lot of flack over his terrible start after being compared to a young Leonard or Butler last season. (I did it too) . He's quietly been playing some of the best basketball of his young career over the last month and change, though, and while it takes fans a little while to catch up to that stuff, opposing GMs should be on top of it and realize he still has a ton of value.




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31 Jan 2019 16:08:50
That's honestly not the worst trade, but it's far from the best that NO will be offered.




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28 Jan 2019 19:46:33
Davis/ Markkanen is a very interesting frontcourt, but that's really all they would have at that point and Davis likely leaves ASAP. I think they should build with the two big guys they already have either use the pick on a guy like Morant or Barrett, or trade the pick for futures the night of the draft. if they wind up with #1, they face an interesting situation. You have the obvious #1 at a position you have two good young kids coming up. Do you take him and trade one of the other two, trade the pick, keep all three?




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28 Jan 2019 19:41:12
Actually Simmons, Collider is correct. It's the better of Sacramento or Philly's picks and the pick is protected number one overall. That said, it SHOULD be the Kings pick, and with the way both rosters stacked up since the Tatum/ Fultz pick trade it's been mostly referred to as the Kings pick. So while it is unlikely that the Kings pick winds up worse than Philly's OR #1 at this point, it is still possible that either of those things could happen.





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