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25 Mar 2019 19:23:52
If the Kings pick jumps up to the #2 overall, I think I would rather the Celtics draft Morant than keep Irving. The team seems to play much better without him, and his media comments just kind of drive me crazy. I think Morant, with his scoring ability but passing attitude, would fit the style of play better as well. In this situation I would draft Morant at 2, Bol at 19 and another big at 22. The way he's been playing I don't think Clarke makes it that far, but a guy like Fernando, Porter or maybe even Hayes might be there.

I'd resign Baynes to a $5 mil-ish deal, and try to see if Horford would be willing to take less...somewhere around $20 mil. If he's willing to do that, then the Celtics would have right around $9 mil to bring in another guard...I'd shoot for Beverly, but there's a few guys out there that would be quality additions.

This would leave you with

PG Smart, Morant, Beverly?
SG Brown, Hayward
SF Tatum, Ojeleye
PF Horford, Clarke?, Yabusele
C Baynes, Williams, Bol

That's a lot of young pieces in Smart, Morant, Brown, Tatum, Clarke, Williams and Bol to work with. It's a team that can compete now, and has enough veterans to help the kids learn with a TON of potential for growth.


1.) 25 Mar 2019 23:48:01
Wouldn't worry about that, I'd the pick ends up #2, it will be on the way to New Orleans in a deal for Davis.
I think the pick will be in the deal anyway, but the higher it gets, it lessons what else is in the deal.

2.) 26 Mar 2019 02:54:54
Garland is realistic, not morant.

3.) 28 Mar 2019 11:24:11
Do not think it is feasible. Since Mavs get the lucky #2 pick. : )

4.) 29 Mar 2019 00:31:22
Drainer- don't you mean hawks.



21 May 2018 14:19:58
Min gets Rozier, Yabu, Semi, Sacramento pick, Memphis pick and Clippers pick.

Boston gets Towns.

This is only realistic if Towns really wants out of Minny. Sacramento gets three controllable players and three picks. Rozier has obviously blossomed this season, and could take over as the lead guard next to Butler giving them not only scoring punch, but also some really good defense. Semi has shown that he can be one of those big bodied 3 and D types, and Yabu still has a lot of potential. More importantly, the Sacramento pick should be a top pick next season, and the Memphis pick should be really good down the line. That Clippers pick might wind up being good as well, and they can always throw in one of their own if they need to sweeten the pot.

Towns on the Celtics doesn't need a ton of explanation. It would leave you with Towns, Horford, Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Kyrie as your top six guys. That's absolutely killer. Then you have guys like Theis, Morris, Smart (probably), possibly Baynes, and whoever they draft this season.


That's a championship squad right there.


1.) 21 May 2018 15:22:22
Wolves would want Brown or Tatum included as well. But if DA could swing it Boston would do that trade.

2.) 21 May 2018 16:09:30
do you really think celtics will get towns to that trade? never celtics will need to throw irving or brown or tatum or hayward to trade done.

3.) 22 May 2018 23:08:21
Tatum ++++++ is the starting point I’m sure rozier would have to be included but nothing starts with towns without Tatum I’m pretty sure he’s not going anywhere!



24 May 2017 20:21:41
Talks are that the Knicks want Crowder in any kind of Melo deal. I personally don't want Melo on the Celtics, but I would love to grab Jordan from the Clippers, who would probably love to bring in Melo.

Celtics get Jordan

Clippers get Melo and Bradley

Knicks get Rivers and Crowder

The Celtics get the rebounding and rim protection they so desperately need without sacrificing everything on offense at the 5.
The Clippers get a guy in Melo who should help keep Paul around, as well as a guy in Bradley to replace Redick.
The Knicks get the guy that they want in Crowder, as well as a PG to fill the "loss" of Rose.


1.) 24 May 2017 21:54:08
I like this trade but would definitely try to substitute Smart and a pick for Bradley as they both will be due for pay raises after next year. Also I would think this would try to happen after free agency in hopes that we can land Hayward first and then add on the salary of Jordan.

2.) 25 May 2017 14:56:13
@LarryLegend- so smart and which pick would go to the Clippers?

3.) 25 May 2017 15:23:53
the knicks have no leverage in this melo ordeal. if he's on the roster he's going to play. phil has made it clear he doesn't want him on the roster. they're going to get rid of him one way or another and with melo's no trade clause, he can force his way wherever he wants. he will end up on the clippers and he's not going to have them trade one of their big 3 to do it.

4.) 25 May 2017 15:59:41
I would think Smart and the 53rd. pick.



17 May 2017 14:24:37
If CP3 goes to San Antonio, or anywhere else really.

Boston: Jordan (sign Hayward)

Clippers: Bradley, Crowder, Rozier, Boston 2018 1st round pick.

Boston is likely going to draft Fultz. At that point, they're going to have to do something with the glut of guards. Bradley has shown he's a beast, Crowder is that fantastic glue guy who does everything pretty well, and Rozier has really shown what he can do in this postseason. What they need is rebounding and rim protection. Jordan fits both bills, and they should still have room to sign a max contract in Hayward to man the SF spot.

Thomas/ Jackson
Fultz/ Smart
Hayward/ Brown/ Nader
Horford/ Yabusele/ Mickey
Jordan/ Zizic

The Clippers, on the other hand, are potentially looking at a full scale rebuild. If I'm them, I'm trying to keep myself relevant with the Lakers drafting so much potential star power. If they lose Paul, they're likely to lose Redick, and might lose Griffin as well. In that case, you can use Jordan to bring in players to fill holes in the roster. The key is, you're bringing in all three of those players totaling only 16 million for this season. Paul, Griffin, Redick and Jordan total 71 million this season. They'll finally have the financial flexibility they've been lacking for years. They'd also want to move Rivers and that stupid 11 million contract.


1.) 17 May 2017 14:56:41
I have the celtics signing hayward and trading that pick along with assets for jimmy butler and robin lopez. Giving them a lineup of:

Pg. I. Thomas
Sg. J. Butler
Sf. G. Hayward
Pf. A. Horford
C. R. Lopez.

2.) 17 May 2017 16:29:04
How does Boston pay all these guys and field a respectable bench? They have to resign Thomas at this point right? He's going to get 200 mil.

Are both crowder and Bradley gone at the end of thier contracts? What about smart? All thrse guys will be offered more money elsewhere. right?

3.) 17 May 2017 16:42:55
I tend to like junkies trade. It would put the C's right up there on the luxury threshold for 1 year though. But if your in it to win then it would be worth it. Providing you win. Also If they could swing this without giving up next years Net pick it's makes it more realistic.

No matter how one looks at it Boston will have a completely different team next year outside of IT and Horford.

4.) 17 May 2017 17:52:59
IT is not getting 200 million!

5.) 17 May 2017 19:26:41
IT will be getting the max from somewhere.179 million is the actual amount if we're being a stickler.

My point is moreso that Ainge is going to have to be very creative, and that major parts of thier current team aren't going to be there going forward if they sign/ trade for another max guy.

6.) 17 May 2017 22:21:21
Don't think that is enough to get Jordan but Celtics could really use an upgrade at the center position with some rebounding (Jordan is one of leading rebounders in NBA) .

As many alluded to the issue becomes salary. IT has been the life blood of the team so I find it tough to get rid of him but he is an aging 5ft9 guard and Fultz could potentially step into his role if they did acquire a Hayward/ Butler type that could pickup the primary scorer role. I'm not sure what his value is like but I think Horford would be a natural option to shop. Although extremely skilled he has a large contract, getting up there in age and is a bit of a tweener at this point in his career. If they added another star to IT I think he becomes an expensive 3rd option. Bradley I think also sadly has to go since they simply won't be able to afford him if they add another big name.



09 May 2017 14:56:23
Knicks get Brook Lopez, Ricky Rubio

T'Wolves get Melo

Nets get Noah, Muhammad, #7 pick from Knicks, #44 from Knicks.

The Knicks get their real PG and a real C to pair with Porzingis, along with getting out from under the Noah deal.

Melo would be a very interesting fit in Minny if he's willing to go. He would fit right into the staring lineup at PF next to Towns, and brings a veteran presence to a very young and talented group.

The Nets might be willing to do this simply to get a real player. They've got no chance of competing for the duration of Lopez' contract. They bring back a bad contract in Noah, but actually free up 4 million per year for the duration of Lopez' deal. The big get is the 1st rounder. This would give them three first rounders in this draft, but this would be their only top ten. It's a deep draft, so they should be able to get a real player at #7, and role players with potential at 22 and 27 to begin their rebuild. The only way they're luring any free agents is to drastically overpay, so the only real way to get better is with draft picks and a little luck. They would probably wind up with guys like Smith or Fox at 7, and would have the potential of guys like Kennard, Rabb, Swanigan, Anunoby, Giles, Adebayo, etc at the other two spots. Three of that group could be the core that helps bring them out of the basement.


1.) 09 May 2017 16:11:31
For MIN, Shabazz is a RFA, so this is Rubio + cap space for Melo. I don't think he'd drop the NTC, but that is probably a deal you do on value alone. I don't particularly like the fit - MIN needs a defensive PF that can protect the rim.

For NJN, they have to say yes. Eating Noah is extremely painful, but they need that #7 pick to start to rebuild.

For MIN, I think it clears them up for the future, but that might be too high a price for me.

Interesting trade.

2.) 09 May 2017 23:28:35
oops - my last line should have been "For NYK" that might be too high a price.




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14 May 2018 16:50:12
I just wanted to revisit this potential trade I've seen a few times on here and see what side of the fence people are falling on.

What I've seen is Tatum, Brown, Rozier and usually a pick from Boston for the Spurs' Leonard.

I've personally been against it, as I think Brown and Tatum can each be as good a player as Leonard, and I think people are finally starting to see that potential. To be clear, this is not me thinking Leonard isn't great, he's a very good player. I just think Brown and Tatum have the chance to be really special as well, and I'm already drooling over a potential Irving/Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Horford death lineup.

Most folks seem to have been pretty solidly on the "do that trade for Leonard" side, but I have to think that the last few weeks have to have swung that back to at least even...thoughts?


1.) 14 May 2018 17:32:16
There is no way that deal goes down. Absolutely none. In fact, the Celtics might not do Tatum for Leonard even up.
No one knows what's going on in Leonard's mind, and if he has no problem screwing over the Spurs, he might do the same to Boston. Plus, he'll demand a max deal -- which would make it impossible to re-sign Kyrie Irving.
Maybe the Spurs could get Irving or Brown for Leonard. Or Rozier and a pick. But three starters and a pick? Not even close.

2.) 14 May 2018 17:59:44
Agree with collider, salary alone makes this deal unreasonable given the performance of the celts. Maybe Hayward straight up. I would wait and see how good Hayward is first though. Celts are really good.

3.) 15 May 2018 02:52:56
no way brown and tatum, toughest part is c’s matching kawhi salary, hayward horford irving have to be off the table, and those are their only 3 salaries over 10 mil. i think tatum+morris+rozier gets you to the 75%, i'd take that for kawhi if a better offer doesn't come thru.

4.) 15 May 2018 05:07:00
Hayward and a pick. I say sorry Stevens we getting Leonard.

5.) 15 May 2018 10:23:15
Boston should keep Tatum and Brown, they could trade Hayward for Leonard.

6.) 16 May 2018 22:19:59
Hayward Irving for Leonard Mills.



22 Jun 2017 16:49:39
Not a trade, but I just wanted to gauge how happy people would be if the dominoes all fell correctly and Ball wound up not getting picked by the Lakers, falling to Orlando or Minny later on. He's already been recruiting LeBron to a team he's not even on.


1.) 22 Jun 2017 17:02:42
Anything that gets Lavar to shut his mouth makes the world a better place.




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15 Apr 2019 18:24:05
The best part is that they have the assets to keep retooling as is. They've actually played very well when Kyrie sits, despite him being their most talented player. That could just be an anomaly, but it does go to show the talent on the rest of the roster. If they have the opportunity to bring in a Morant, they might see that as being just as good, and then they don't have to deal with the Kyrie headaches that seem to follow him around.

Even if they don't bring in that top pick, they might decide they feel fine moving forward with Rozier and paying the man. Either way, Kyrie/ AD or the rest of the young pieces they currently have, they should have a pretty lengthy championship window. It'll be very interesting to see what direction Danny goes.




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15 Apr 2019 15:02:09
it wouldn't be so much a rebuild as a retool, and I've thought about this as well. I like AD a lot, but it really depends on how much they want for him and if they think he will actually stick around.

Either way, the trade for AD and the decision on Kyrie can't happen until after the draft, and I really doubt that NO would want anyone other than Morant at #2, so you have time to think. Ja could easily be the best player to come out of this draft, and with him already in tow, they have a lot of bargaining power on what else goes to NO. If Griffin is stubborn on wanting too much, DA should feel comfortable moving forward.

The ideal would be if Memphis' pick wound up at 4. That would give them someone worthwhile, but probably not an immediate impact like the top two or three guys should have. I don't think I would take Bol at 9 anyway. I'm looking at him with that Clippers pick being a good gamble, but 9 is a bit too high for my taste.




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15 Apr 2019 13:16:26
The Lakers are a joke, but that's no different than an other team LeBron has been on. He wants to be the coach, and rarely cares what anyone on the sideline wearing a suit has to say. They all allow him to dictate decisions, even Riley to an extent. Spoelstra turned out to be a good choice, but you really only saw that after James went back to Cleveland.

That said, I'm really hoping that Walton gets those kids in Sacramento playing even better than this year. I would love to see that become a rivalry again and get a playoff matchup.




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06 Apr 2019 21:56:05
I've heard a bunch of Durant to BOS for Hayward and a pick. I don't know that Golden State would want to move him to a team that could really contend with them in that case, but I don't know what other offers are really out there for opt in and trade purposes. Everyone would love to have him, but not many are in the position to have assets to move for him without seriously diminishing their total team. I'm still a Hayward believer, and I would hate to see him moved, but I think he might fit the pecking order better in Golden State, and I wouldn't want to turn down a chance at Durant. They'd still have assets for an AD push too.




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11 Mar 2019 15:45:56
Rondo used to lead the league in assists too. They're easy to get when you pound the ball into the ground until there's five seconds on the shot clock, then pass the ball. Just because someone gets good assist numbers doesn't mean they don't also hog (for lack of a better term) the ball. That can absolutely work given the right players and system, but the Celtics are based on ball movement, which is why Kyrie isn't a seamless fit.





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