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27 Mar 2019 14:54:31
The Cavs get Jackson, Warren, and Johnson

The Suns get Love, Smith( cut and save 10 million), and the Bucks 21 1st

The Suns sign Rubio and Danny Green

draft Morant

resign Oubre and Holmes

Pg Morant/Rubio
Sg Booker/ Oubre
Sf Green/Bridges
Pf Love/ Bender
C Ayton/Holmes

That line up is an offensive monster with some good defenders sprinkled in.


1.) 27 Mar 2019 18:13:17
Love is too expensive for 50 games a year. Until he has one year left on contract he is a cav.

2.) 27 Mar 2019 18:34:49
I agree with Shiller. Cavs didn’t give Love that big contract to trade him.

3.) 27 Mar 2019 18:58:59
Warren's #s alone are better than loves. Why would phoenix throw in jackson.

4.) 27 Mar 2019 19:31:19
This is an incredible deal for PHX. Love and a '21 MIL 1st? Suns should get off of Jackson, Johnson anyway, and Warren is worth losing for this. Booker, Love, Ayton, '19 1-5 pick is going to do some damage. Especially if they can get a couple of decent lower tier free agents with the rest of their space, and re-sign Oubre. Not sure about Rubio, Green. I think they would require Ariza pay to think about it, but even without those guys that's a competitive team. (uninjured)

5.) 27 Mar 2019 22:04:32
Love for Johnson fair value.

6.) 28 Mar 2019 02:27:51
I like everything but the Rubio signing. Isaiah Thomas May be a good pickup to mentor Morant or maybe DRose.

7.) 28 Mar 2019 11:27:53
Love and Ayton would be the softest front court in the league.

8.) 28 Mar 2019 13:20:06
Jorganwood the suns should get off of Jackson? Even if Jackson was a bum which he isn't, he's only making 5 mill. Or so on his rookie deal. You don't go and take the worst contract in the league and give up Warren to move on from a draft pick. according to yur logic they should take on 30+ million a year to get rid of 5 million.

9.) 28 Mar 2019 17:08:13
I didn't claim that Love was cheaper than Warren, or Jackson, or that the Suns could save money in any way. It was not my intention to insult, it never is, I wasn't responding to you personally either, it was for Rkenne_16. Not sure if you think this is a proper way to disagree, but calling people stupid is going to far. Clean it up a little, no one was trashing you or your team on a personal level. I didn't make any claims about "cheaper" or anyone's contract. You are disagreeing with your own imaginings. When the cap is109 next season, and 118M in '20-'21, this deal isn't bad at all really. Relax, take a chill pill. Love wouldn't interfere with contracts or anything in PHX long-term. He shoots a much needed 3 @ a PF position, and passes way better than Ayton. There is some upside to this.

10.) 28 Mar 2019 21:13:34
Jorganwood do you just believe whT you want? Read my post I never said you were stupid, and besides even if i did how's that going to far? Are you 12? You said this was an incredible deal for Phx. So it has everything to do with money. Warren alone puts up better #s then love. So giving up Jackson who is only 19, and taking on Smith's money to get a late 1st rounder is ridiculous. I don't care what the cap is you don't pay a guy like love 30+ million he's nothing more that a role player with all the injurys he's had. If you felt me disagreeing with you about yur trade is calling you stupid maybe you should thing before you comment.

11.) 28 Mar 2019 22:01:38
Speaking of 12, Classy. Jackson is 22, and your grammar stinks. Hope it rains on your BBQ, good day.

12.) 29 Mar 2019 05:01:36
Yep def. 12, and yet my grammar is still 10x better than your trade ideas.

13.) 29 Mar 2019 05:02:04
They’d only have to pay 4 million of Jr’s 14 million as long as they cut him. They actually save about 7 million in cap space this year.

Some of Warren’s raw stats are better than Love’s, but it’s not hard to see that Love is a significantly better player if you watch the game. He draws a ton of attention and makes smart plays. You can’t say that about Warren at this point. They need veteran guys that know how to win playing big roles around their promising young guys.

14.) 29 Mar 2019 05:18:26
How'd the BBQ go?



21 Mar 2019 23:52:24
The Cavs get Exum, Allen, and a top 20 protected 20 1st that converts to 2 2nds if it doesn't transfer.

The jazz get Jr Smith.

The Jazz get off Exum, who can't stay healthy and open up over a full max.


1.) 22 Mar 2019 04:28:54
I don’t think Jazz needs to give up the 1st.

2.) 22 Mar 2019 15:43:12
Jazz might give up exum to Get conley in offseason.

3.) 22 Mar 2019 16:30:12
Does Exum have value at this point? He’s missed 200 games in the last 4 years, he currently has a major knee injury and he’s looked pretty lackluster when he has played. He seems like a contract that you’d want out of at this point.

4.) 22 Mar 2019 18:03:49
If I had Smith, I would trade him straight across for Exum if I could. The Exum injury is unfortunate, but not uncommon or severe, especially for a pro basketball player. He has been prone, but he's 23, and his deal is not that bad. Utah isn't really a FA destination, but they are good, so put in a bind they could go this route. Good for whoever faciitates.



20 Mar 2019 20:13:40
The Blazers get Aldridge and Bellineli

The Spurs get Turner(exp), Nurkic, and the Blazers 1st.


1.) 21 Mar 2019 00:55:21
I think the Nurkic contract is too good to let go of for a couple years of Aldridge before he retires.

2.) 21 Mar 2019 01:53:54
Spurs get screwed.

3.) 21 Mar 2019 13:14:21
I wouldn’t give up nurkic for Aldridge. Nurkic is much younger, cheaper, and a great defender. If Portland could make it some youth (Collins and/ or Simons), I’d definitely do it. Adding Aldridge to lillard, McCollum, and nurkic would be really good.



19 Mar 2019 17:54:36
The Pelicans get Plumlee(exp), Barton, Murray, Porter, Gordon(buyout), the nuggets 20, and 22 1sts, the Rockets 20 1st and 22 1st top 10 protected, and they save 15 million

The Nuggets get Davis, Holiday and Moore

The Rockets get Harris

The Pelicans get a ton to rebuild with and a potential all star in Murray. If Tatum isn't on the table, it's hard to find a trade that checks this many boxes. They save a ton of money, they get a player to start rebuilding around, they get a boat load of picks, they get young talent and Barton can be flipped easily.

The Nuggets end up loaded. There's a lot of draw for Davis as well. Jokic fits next to Davis perfectly. This is one of the few spots where it makes sense for Davis to play the 4. If Durant leaves, this would be the favorite in the west.

The Rockets get a 3 and d wing and an upgrade over Gordon.


1.) 20 Mar 2019 14:53:02
They are not trading Holiday, they won't even entertain it.



17 Mar 2019 17:03:56
Here is the most insane time line for the Knicks that isn't very far fetched.

Win lottery
Draft Zion

Sign KD and Kyrie


The Knicks get AD

The Pelicans get Knox, Smith jr, Ntilikina, Dodson, lance Thomas (exp), 2020, 2022 NY 1sts, and the 2 Dallas 1sts

Give the mle to Danny Green and Biannual to Marvin Williams

Sign Jeremy Lin and Korver

Pg Kyrie/Lin
Sg Green/Trier
Sf Durant/Korver
Pf Zion/Williams
C Davis/Robinson

That team would be crazy.


1.) 17 Mar 2019 17:49:09
Unfortunately, if they are able to assemble that team, and they are championship quality. those picks lose much of their value.
If they are fortunate enough to get Zion Williamson, they should keep him and build around.

2.) 17 Mar 2019 18:16:02
KD and Irving playing for Dolan is just too hard for me to take seriously. The clippers arena, the multiple fan incidents, a lawsuit with Charles Oakley, 20 years of sustained losing, Isaiah Thomas sexual harrassment, throwing P. Jackson and Nkilitina under the bus. It's too much for me to think KD, and Irving don't notice, or care about these issues too.

3.) 17 Mar 2019 18:29:30
It definitely baffles me why they would want to go there, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

4.) 17 Mar 2019 18:34:58
If you’re the Knicks and you win Zion and then Durant and Irving commit to sign for 4 year maxes, I think you trade every tradable pick, if you have to in the above deal. You immediately become the best team in the league.

5.) 17 Mar 2019 19:22:08
Small minded children know the answer to your questions Jorgawood and Rkenne, marketing and legacy. Dolan worst owner in sports. Knicks worst record in nba. Still most valued nba team. 2nd in marketing to selling sporting goods. 46 yrs later clyde Frazier still a god in ny. To win in NY is impossible to imagine and to create a dynasty will make their legacy especially Durant ahead of Lebron. Enjoy yr 1 rkenne. NY Knicks fan are due championship.

6.) 17 Mar 2019 19:32:23
So Zion a 4th option for 4 years? I’ll draft the pick Zion and keep Knox. At least you know what you got in Knox. No development in place for him with that roster.

7.) 17 Mar 2019 22:18:34
The Pels wouldn’t accept not getting Zion. He’d be the required centerpiece.

8.) 17 Mar 2019 22:54:37
I see Irving and Durant going to Brooklyn before going to the Knicks. I think what was once the allure of playing for organizations like the Knicks, Bulls and Lakers no longer exists in this current generation. I think FAs put winning and "supportive" FOs and owners as important as the $$$$ being made. The Knicks are way, way behind other teams when it comes to these factors.

9.) 18 Mar 2019 02:00:04
They have the cap. That is true.

10.) 18 Mar 2019 08:05:03
Knox has been horrible on the defensive end and he doesn’t shoot well.

You start working on Zion’s shot, defense, Cutting, setting screens, post passing, offensive rebounding, and starting the break. Honestly, it’s probably better for Zion. There’s pressure immediately for him no master what. At least in this scenario, there’s a ton of pressure on everyone. It’s not just on him to be the savior. They would have the luxury of being able to bring him along in a very limited role that can expand as the year goes along.

Down the line, he’s going to get more and more time to be the guy. KD, AD, and Kyrie will all miss time and be manage carefully. You turn the keys over to him in year 4, when you have to pay him and potentially 2 other guys, the max. In the end, you hope you get some kind of AD meets Draymond like player.

11.) 18 Mar 2019 09:50:43
The discounts Irving and Durant would have to take are pretty awesome too.

12.) 18 Mar 2019 19:48:00
Pels would want Zion in any talks w Knicks unless you brought a 3rd PARTY IN.




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17 Apr 2019 02:53:17
If you had to start a team with the players and assets of any non playoff team, which would it be?


1.) 17 Apr 2019 08:56:21
I think it has to be either the suns, hawks, or Knicks. Suns have the most talent on the roster of all the non playoff teams and they all their future picks. Next year they'll have Booker, Ayton, and most likely either Zion, morant, or Barrett. The hawks have two solid pieces in Trae and Collins and they have 2 top 10 picks this year, all their future picks, and two other 1st rounders. Knicks have all their 1st rounders, also two from the mavs, cap space, and are a major free agent destination.

2.) 17 Apr 2019 08:56:24
Bulls, Kings, Heat, Hawks, Lakers are all a pretty good place to start I think. PHX should be loaded up pretty good next season too.

3.) 17 Apr 2019 13:28:57
Kings look the most playoff ready. Lakers would be as well if they could resolve all the FO and ownership drama. Hawks would be my third choice if they hit with upcoming draft picks.

4.) 17 Apr 2019 15:16:09
Dallss has 2 young guys and a max spot open. Knicks are the best choice with cap space and picks.

5.) 17 Apr 2019 16:16:03
Shiller, Fizdale and Dolan will hold the Knicks back.

6.) 17 Apr 2019 19:58:37
NOP, if Davis sticks around!



28 Mar 2019 01:11:31
If you're Washington and a team is willing to take on Wall for expirings, if you give up your current first, How high would the pick need to be for you to say no?


1.) 28 Mar 2019 04:29:28
I wouldn't trade wall for expiring contracts. I wait till healthy then decide and rebuild on the way.

2.) 28 Mar 2019 04:33:50
Top 5. Wall still has prime years left, he was a better defender than lillard or walker, and scores pretty well too. The cap at 118, and luxury at 143 will make Walls deal seem alright in a couple years, so the Pick needs to be good.

3.) 28 Mar 2019 18:06:00
Wall got numbers but can't shoot and is way overpaid.

4.) 28 Mar 2019 21:10:23
We don’t know if Wall will even be good when he gets back. He could legitimately be awful and he has 5 years left on his contract with the last one being over 50 million dollars. There’s a chance you’re paying a low end starting pg or back up pg 50 million dollars. You have Beal just coming into his prime and with like 2 years left on his deal. If you don’t go full rebuild, you need to get off Wall, if you can. I’d personally think about it at 2 and would definitely do it at 4.

5.) 28 Mar 2019 22:04:37
Wall is not a backup.

6.) 29 Mar 2019 03:36:17
He could aim for highest salaried player to ever win the 6th man award.

7.) 29 Mar 2019 15:32:38
:-) :-) :-)

8.) 29 Mar 2019 17:31:40
NBA16, he just suffered one of the worst injuries possible for a basketball player and his game is dependent on his athleticism. You could be looking at a player that struggles to get to the rim, can’t finish at a high level, gets torched on defense, can’t shoot, and has diminished passing ability given the lack of attention defenders need to pay with him. He also plays the most stacked position in the game. People hated the contract before he tore his Achilles.

9.) 29 Mar 2019 20:45:05
It was a torn Achilles, but under strange circumstances, at home slipping in the shower, right after bone spur surgery in or near the same area? Not in a game though under high physical stress loads. I'm optimistic his return is equal, or better than Cousins. Mathews looks great, but it did take a couple, and a half seasons for him to recover fully. Mathews was a far more severe injury than Wall's from my understanding. It's definitely a 50/ 50 ball, and his 3 shooting needs to improve.

10.) 30 Mar 2019 13:23:24
Jorga. Cousins uses power or footwork. Wall uses speed. Big difference.

11.) 30 Mar 2019 16:04:26
That's why I listed Mathews too. To cover all the bases. Obviously you missed that, by mistake I'm sure.



13 Mar 2019 14:24:23
We know with the raise in cap again and the last set off bad contracts coming off the books that this offseason is set up for a lot of teams to overpay some guys. Who do you think are the leading candidates to be the next Noah, Mozgov, Deng and etc.?


1.) 13 Mar 2019 15:01:04
T ross

2.) 13 Mar 2019 15:59:14
Rozier definitely feels like the #1 candidate.

Vocevic might get overpaid, but at least he's an all star.

Jake Layman could get a stupid contract (Allen Crabbe 2.0) the way he's played the last couple months.

3.) 13 Mar 2019 17:15:21
Middleton getting a Max deal paying him more than Giannis. He isn't a max player, which is usually how Mozgov, Parsons, Batum deals begin.

4.) 13 Mar 2019 19:48:04
Well, Giannis is the most underpaid player in the NBA. You can't compare a new contract to Giannis' contract, because he wasn't a star before he signed that extension, and it was his second deal, which doesn't top out incredibly high.

Middleton is certainly miles ahead of Mozgov and Batum. Parsons might be a good comparison, but if 100% healthy, I think Parsons' contract isn't bad. Same with with Gallinari. All 3 are similar players to McCollum as well (ignoring health issues) . They're all good 2nd or 3rd options. Max money is a slight overpay, but not egregious.

5.) 13 Mar 2019 20:45:15
Agree with almost all of these. In particular I like the Terence Ross call. He’s a guy that I never would have though of, but I can see him getting way to much money.
I’d be fine with Middleton as a max guy though. He’s probably not worth max, but he’s close to worth it and it makes sense for the Bucks to just give it to him rather than risk it.

I could see Brogdon and Bledsoe both being over paid by a ton. I could see Bledsoe in particular getting close to the max and then declining and dealing with injuries.

6.) 13 Mar 2019 22:13:20
Bledsoe only got 4 years 70 million already. A small overpay, but not terrible.

7.) 14 Mar 2019 00:05:14
I forgot he signed the extension and yeah, it could have been worse.

8.) 14 Mar 2019 02:16:29
Middleton is a very similar player to Batum. They play in different systems. Middleton has disappear games offensively the same way as Batum, O. Porter, but like Batum the other areas of the game he contributes to are meaningful. The question was who will get an overpaid contract, and I have read a lot of folks sayin on here that Middleton will start at 36 million! That is absurd to me. How can bledsoe only get 15-20? I would view Middleton at 36 million a good starting place for a bad contract.

9.) 14 Mar 2019 08:15:13
Middleton is overpaid, if you look to his contract.
But he fits the Bucks system and they can't get a better alternative in free agency. And this signing could keep Giannis happy. (Losing Middleton would bring Milwaukee in the same possition as New Orleans and Davis)
So i don't think it's an overpay, if he can stay healty.

10.) 14 Mar 2019 12:43:28
Middleton makes 13 million and he is overpaid? 36 million dollars is about 12-14 million higher than what his #'s say he is worth by comparison to other player salaries that do the same. The Bucks aren't going to have to pay more than anyone else to keep him either. The Bucks have arrived, people love them. Players too.

11.) 14 Mar 2019 17:47:56
You can be the best team in the NBA regular season with Middleton as your second best player. That is confirmed. I wouldn't let him walk if I'm the Bucks if he demands max. Especially if they make the finals. If they flame out in the second round, yeah maybe.

If I'm the Hawks and have a max slot? Yeah, no possible way I'd pay Middleton that much.

Sometimes you pay to keep your team together. This is one of those cases.

12.) 14 Mar 2019 18:10:44
Dont think Rozier will get "over paid". The market for PG is real soft with less than 5 teams looking for an upgrade at that position and one of them having a shot at draft Ja Morant. Orlando can also be out of the market if Fultz comes around.



09 Mar 2019 23:51:02
If you were starting a franchise today and you could have one of these and they're guaranteed to resign until the end of their career, which would you pick?








1.) 10 Mar 2019 02:55:24

2.) 10 Mar 2019 04:02:34
Toss up between Durant and Leonard.

3.) 10 Mar 2019 04:25:04

4.) 10 Mar 2019 06:48:01

5.) 11 Mar 2019 03:25:00
KAT or Kawhi.

6.) 11 Mar 2019 20:15:16
Kat or KD. I think ka needs a pg that isn't missing 20 games a year.



05 Feb 2019 19:24:17
I've seen some analysts say that the Pelicans aren't big on Ingram. Would he be wise for a team like Portland to try and become a third team in this?

Could something like Simmons, Collins, Harkless and 2 1sts get you Ingram and Mirotic? If it could it seems like the perfect kind of move for Portland.


1.) 05 Feb 2019 19:56:08
That’s a huge price for those two. Then again, I’m also not high on Ingram. I think he’s a marginal upgrade over Hood. I think Portland could get Mirotic for Harkless and Collins, so Ingram is two firsts and Simons (a third first) . That’s too much. Maybe replace the two firsts with Swanigan and a second.

2.) 05 Feb 2019 22:10:56
Maybe, Swanigan in a first could do it? Ingram is a hard guy to put a value on. He has a ton of upside and he puts up solid numbers, but at the same time he just seems so underwhelming. I do think having a real offensive threat at sf and a longer wing to defend guys like Lebron and KD would give Portland a much higher ceiling. In theory, he’s the guy they’ve been missing the past few years.

3.) 05 Feb 2019 22:12:54
Maybe, Swanigan in a first could do it? Ingram is a hard guy to put a value on. He has a ton of upside and he puts up solid numbers, but at the same time he just seems so underwhelming. I do think having a real offensive threat at sf and a longer wing to defend guys like Lebron and KD would give Portland a much higher ceiling. In theory, he’s the guy they’ve been missing the past few years.

4.) 05 Feb 2019 23:44:59
No one is big on Ingram. He is amazingly inefficient and makes his team worse.




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19 Apr 2019 16:52:43
Not to mimic bmiller to much, but there are plenty of touches to go around and neither guy is useless off ball. It’s not like we’re trying to figure out how Ben Simmons and Westbrook could realistically fit together. Maybe you play Walker a little more on ball to force Doncic to keep working on his game off ball, but both are going to have the ball in there hands a ton and it’s not hard to go get complementary guys that just don’t need the ball.




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18 Apr 2019 15:31:45
Why would the Cavs take on two more years of Bazemore for a 2nd round pick? That’s worth a middle of the first round pick at the very least.




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15 Apr 2019 17:01:06
Not even close for Beal.




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15 Apr 2019 12:04:17
I’d pass on that. Love is helping the Cavs young guys develop. Wiggins just takes the ball out their hands and is a bad locker room presence.




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13 Apr 2019 13:03:52
Yeah, I don’t see why the Bulls would trade Markannen for next to nothing.





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