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21 Jun 2017 17:48:09
The Lakers get Wade and Butler

The Bulls get Deng, Clarkson, Randle, the 2, 27, and 28

rkenne_16

1.) 21 Jun 2017 18:45:15
I wouldn't want to take on Wade unless he would be willing to take a big discount next year to make space for LBJ.


2.) 21 Jun 2017 18:52:46
TriangleO, the idea was to have a recruiter for Lebron. It's not a forgone conclusion that Lebron is going to LA. No matter the chatter until LA shows they can put together a championship caliber team, I highly doubt Lebron seriously considers going their. Wade could help and at worse he's an expiring.


3.) 21 Jun 2017 21:18:37
Rkenne, I'm not saying I truly believe LBJ is going to the Lakers next offseason, I'm just saying that it's pointless to bring Wade over if he expects a salary above an exception level next year. They would not be able to keep him anyways if LBJ does in fact want to come, and Wade won't take a minimum. e.


4.) 21 Jun 2017 21:29:53
why would the lakers trade the 2 pick. there going to take lonzo or fox. if they trade it there was no point of trading diangelo russell.


5.) 21 Jun 2017 21:41:54
That's a lot of picks for Butler and wades contract.


 

 

21 Jun 2017 15:00:26
Cleveland gets E. Turner, George, and Vonleh

Indy gets Crabbe, Felder, R.Jefferson, and Portlands 3 1sts

Portland gets Love, Shumpert, A. Jefferson, and a Cavs 2nd

rkenne_16

1.) 21 Jun 2017 20:59:57
Turner, Vonleh, Crabbe and 3 1st round picks for Love and scraps. my mind is blown.


2.) 21 Jun 2017 21:35:43
great trade👍🏾.


3.) 21 Jun 2017 23:06:34
Why is that mind blowing Gobbly? It takes 20 and 26 to unload Crabbe and Turner. SO they're trading Vonleh and 15 for love? That feels like a good move for Portland.


4.) 21 Jun 2017 23:30:47
Gobblyguber, they're trying to use those picks to move Turner and Crabbe. It's basically the 15 and Vonleh for Love. It gives them the opportunity to save money and add a star they control for 3 years. Shumpert is a solid bench player that gives them a little of what Turner and Crabbe gives them with better defense for half the price of either.


 

 

19 Jun 2017 15:08:00
The Pacers get the 13th pick, Abrines, Sabonis, Felder, Osman, Kanter, OKC 2022 1st, the Cavs 2021, and swap rights in 2020 and 2022 with the Cavs.

Gives Jefferson and George

The Cavs get George, Chandler, and Jefferson

Gives Felder, Osman, Love, Shumpert, Frye, swap rights 20 22 and their 21

OKC gets Gallonari and Frye

Gives Kanter, Sabonis, Abrines, and a 2021 1st

Denver gets Love and Shumpert

Gives Chandler, Gallonari, and the 13th overall

rkenne_16

1.) 19 Jun 2017 17:05:27
Cavs already traded away 2021 1st Rd pick and swap rights with the Cavs are less than worthless.


2.) 19 Jun 2017 17:28:09
The Cavs don't have a pick in 17 and 2019 they have their 2021 pick. The swap rights could be worth something since they'll be 3 and 5 years from now.


 

 

17 Jun 2017 15:25:12
The Cavs get Batum, MKG, and Kamisky

The Hornets get Love, Felder, and Shumpert

rkenne_16

1.) 17 Jun 2017 15:30:37
I like this trade, propably not enough for Cleveland to beat GS, but they get a better bench

And Love would form a great combo wit Wakler.


2.) 17 Jun 2017 16:25:13
Hornets easily say no.


3.) 17 Jun 2017 17:26:12
NBA, why? They end up with a legitimate star to go with Walker, drop salary, and get a decent replacement for MGK. Love is younger than Batum and Love almost carried a bad Minnesota team in a tougher conference to the playoffs. I'd argue that he's a better player now even if his stats are down. He's willing to sacrifice to win, he's a much better defender, and he has playoff experience. This team would probably end up being a middle seed in the East.


 

 

16 Jun 2017 15:55:13
Philly gets the 5th and 15th

Sacramento gets 3rd, 20th, and the 26th

Portland gets gets the 10th and a philly 2nd

rkenne_16

1.) 16 Jun 2017 16:32:25
I like this one for philly they can draft Fox, Tatum or Isaac and Justin Jackson


I wouldn't do this if i where Sacramento. Not in this draft
They could go for Fox and Markannen or Isaac and Ntilikina

Why would Portland want the 10th pick?
They can draft Giles or Leaf with the 15th pick, And i would use the other picks in a trade with Turner or Crabbe.


2.) 16 Jun 2017 17:05:01
I agree that Sacramento shouldn't trade either picks l, but they seem dead set on moving up to get Fox even though he most likely falls to them at 5.
I agree with your point on Portland though. Maybe switching the Philly 2nd to Sac and add a future Portland 2nd to Sac and Turner.

Portland gets the 10th

Philly gets the 5th and 15th

Sac gets the 3rd, 20th, 26th, Philly 2nd, future Por 2nd, and Turner.


3.) 16 Jun 2017 18:26:14
It's sacramento so they could do this :-)

But i would gamble to get Fox with the 5 pick, if not Smith or Ntilikina will be available with the 10 pick.


4.) 16 Jun 2017 23:51:21
@Gasupo

Why would Portland land take either Leaf or Giles?

Leaf plays no defense and I'm pretty sure the Blazers don't want to draft yet another big with knee issues.

Pretty sure Portland wants John Collins.

Regardless, I agree with the rest of your statement.


5.) 17 Jun 2017 18:24:10
@Gasupo

While I agree with you that Portland doesn't need the tenth pick, I don't think they're targeting Leaf or Giles. They need defense in the front court, which is Leaf's biggest weakness. And with Giles, I don't think the organization can risk a pick on yet another big with a history of knee issues.

I believe Portland has John Collins and Jordan Bell on their draft board.


 

 

 

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19 Jun 2017 15:33:03
Should the Lakers try all that hard to go after George via trade? If I'm the Lakers I think I wait until free agency next year. I think they should throw in some low ball offers just so George doesn't feel disrespected by them, but they need to clear out cap space, keep as much of their young talent as they can, and possibly find stars to pair with him. I feel like there is a chance that George gets their via trade with one year left and realizes the team is a lot farther away than he thought and the organization is a mess. If they trade for him and he walks the Lakers would set themselves back another 3+ years. I think it's worth the risk to wait until free agency.

rkenne_16

1.) 19 Jun 2017 22:25:35
I agree. If I'm Lakers best I'd be willing to give up would probably be Randle, Clarkson and 28th pick since Randle and Clarkson would be expensive to keep if George were to stay and I don't think either are an ideal fit. It would probably be ideal if Lakers got him this season (they have #2 pick I think George knows they are awful and I imagine the team would look quite different once they got a commitment from him) . However, Lakers have a strong young core so even if George doesn't come there are other intriguing FA next offseason or they can choose to grow organically and although it may take longer they should be able to attract talent in time.

I wouldn't include #2 or Ingram in a trade but I may include Russell or if Lakers trade down from #2 a lower pick if Pacers were willing to take back Deng and/ or mozgov's contracts.


 

 

18 Jun 2017 03:58:05
The 1 for the 3 Lakers 18 and Sac 19. Ainge pulled off a great deal for the Celtics. I think it was an over pay, but I suppose if Fultz pans out it's worth it. Honestly, Boston should look to move IT, Horford, and for the right price anyone else older on their roster and double down on a rebuild. With all of their picks and they could build a monster by the time the Cavs and Warriors start to fade.

rkenne_16

1.) 18 Jun 2017 04:40:28
Value-wise great return for Celtics. Due to the volatility of Lakers pick if they decide to deal for George I think they were smart to nab Kings pick too. I imagine 76ers put some protections on these picks tho so i'd like to see what those are before concluding this is a major win for Celtics.

Celtics were obviously scared by GS domination in the playoffs and instead of trading for a star as they've been rumored to do the past few years and finally have the ammunition to do so they don't pull the trigger and instead further increase their draft pick stockpile. It ultimately makes sense but as one of the few teams that could've potentially rivaled the Warriors had they been more aggressive I think its a blow for the league.

If I'm Celtics I wouldn't have a fire sale of the older guys unless they get an offer too good to pass up. They can still go after Hayward and have a pretty good team for the present and still be set for the future sprinkling the young talent that is fairly spread out now. Brown from last year, #3 this year, Nets 18 and Lakers 18 and then Kings 19. That's 5 potential top 10 picks.


2.) 18 Jun 2017 05:40:31
Slow your roll before you annoit Dannyboy King. The trade is being reported that boston gets #3 this year, and only ONE future #1. Boston will get lakers 2018 #1 if it falls between picks 2-5. If lakers pick is 1st or 6-30, sixers keep the pick and boston get kings unprotected 2019 pick. HUGE difference from the above posted trade.


3.) 18 Jun 2017 05:49:35
Jvoug1, yeah, when I read it they reported it differently. I love it for Philly under those terms.


4.) 18 Jun 2017 17:24:58
If the Lakers pick ends up 2-5 next year, its an amazing trade for the celtics. Ainge gets who he wanted anyways (jackson) . essentially he got the extra pick for free.


5.) 18 Jun 2017 21:37:22
It's an excellent trade for sixers and celtics. Sixers get the #1 pick and the guy they wanted in Fultz, only giving up one future pick ( it was heavily rumored prior to the trade that it would take much ore to get boston to trade the pick) . Celtics get the guy they want in Jackson, and acquire another asset by dropping from 1 to 3. A very rare win/ win that actually happend.


 

 

02 Jun 2017 23:51:19
Can a 3 way trade be performed if a team is performing a sign and trade and all they include in the trade is that player?

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02 Jun 2017 00:27:26
What do you think will be the deciding factors in the finals?

I'm going with 2.

The first is Thompson and Love on the boards. They need to limit the amount of 2nd chances the Warriors get. They are to good offensively to give them more chances and the less shots they get the less chance their shooters can get in rhythm. The Cavs aren't great at causing turnovers so it's imperative that they dominate the boards. Similar story on the offensive end, if you give them 2nd chances they have the shooting to bury you. Rebounding is the one place the Cavs have a clear advantage and that has to be evident for the Cavs to win.

The other key is Klay Thompson. He hasn't shot well in the playoffs and if he becomes a volume shooter, the Cavs can pay more attention to Durant and Curry. If he's hitting shots the Warriors are almost impossible to guard.

rkenne_16

1.) 02 Jun 2017 03:26:32
I think this is spot on. In fact, allowing offensive boards and turning the ball over have been hurting Cavs thus far. Additionally, refs seem to be letting them play and this is benefitting the Warriors who are much more aggressive.


2.) 02 Jun 2017 17:11:01
Agree that the tos and rebounds killed them last night and that the Warriors looked more aggressive. I think if the physical play continues though it's good for the Cavs. Irving and Lebron are better at finishing through contact than their counterparts. If the Cavs can get away with tugging on curry's jersey they can get him out of rhythm easier. He isn't a fan of contact and that's how the Cavs slowed him down the past two years. Lebron being able to use his strength against Durant could be big on both sides and Tristan is the most physical big on the glass. If the Cavs play like they did last night it doesn't matter, but as much as the Warriors looked good, the Cavs just didn't play well. Shots weren't fall, there were bad turnovers, defensive mistakes, and they didn't box out well.


 

 

12 May 2017 23:51:31
The lakers get Anthony

The Suns get Randle

The 76ers get Clarkson and Lee

The Knicks get a 2018 lottery protected 1st from the suns, an 18 and 20 lottery protected 1st from Philly, 21 lottery protected 1st from the lakers, 2 2nds from philly, and a 2nd from the Suns.

The lakers get out from under their 2 bad contracts, clear out Clarkson's contract, don't habe to pay Randle, keep the flexibility to trade for another star, and can let Melo go if he doesn't mesh well with said star

The Suns get a young decent big man to go with their guards and wings fairly cheaply

The 76ers get two players that can help them win now, ones young enough to dit with their core, can play botb guards, would fit well with Simmons as a starter, and could make am ideal sixth man

The Knicks get all the ammo they need to start a rebuild and by the time they can use the cap space all of their bad contracts will be coming off the books

rkenne_16

1.) 13 May 2017 02:10:17
The knicks also get Deng and Mozgov* sorry.


2.) 14 May 2017 04:26:08
This is beyond stupid for the Knicks. So they get rid of melo and his one or two remaining years and lee who is performing well. They get 3 years of worthless players and all they get are some picks in the 20s a few years away. Awesomely worthless.


 

 

 

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22 Jun 2017 01:30:45
All 3 of those teams have cap space. Why would there be a sign and trade.

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21 Jun 2017 23:30:47
Gobblyguber, they're trying to use those picks to move Turner and Crabbe. It's basically the 15 and Vonleh for Love. It gives them the opportunity to save money and add a star they control for 3 years. Shumpert is a solid bench player that gives them a little of what Turner and Crabbe gives them with better defense for half the price of either.

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21 Jun 2017 18:52:46
TriangleO, the idea was to have a recruiter for Lebron. It's not a forgone conclusion that Lebron is going to LA. No matter the chatter until LA shows they can put together a championship caliber team, I highly doubt Lebron seriously considers going their. Wade could help and at worse he's an expiring.

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21 Jun 2017 17:56:34
George is walking and most likely won't commit to anyone other than the Lakers. At this point that's what they can expect in return.

That's a trade close to what the Knicks can expect for Melo. Maybe they can get an expiring rather than Turner, but that's about it.

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21 Jun 2017 02:34:23
Phxfan, it's been reported that they've thought about moving the 4 for Love. It gives them a cheap star that they control for 3 years.

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