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15 Jun 2019 15:34:03
The Cavs get Batum, Biyombo, Williams, Bridges, the 12th pick and 2 2nds

The Hornets get Love, jr(waive), Clarkson, Zizic, and save 16 million dollars.


1.) 15 Jun 2019 18:17:45
So combining two lottery rosters. Lol.

2.) 15 Jun 2019 19:07:37
They’re getting a good sixth man, a 2nd allstar and opening up a ton of cap. That’s the kind of move they need to make if they want to keep Kemba.

3.) 15 Jun 2019 19:23:30
Batum for love even trade.

4.) 15 Jun 2019 20:56:31
Shizzee, how are those Knicks doing buddy?

5.) 16 Jun 2019 09:11:18
I will tell you in a month from now.



13 Jun 2019 16:35:38
The Cavs get Schroeder, Roberson(expiring), Diallo, Ferguson, Anderson(expiring), J Johnson, Waiters, the 13, the 21, and the Thunder 24 1st top 10 protected

OKC gets Love, Olynyk and Richardson

The Heat get Grant, Patterson(expiring), Smith(waive), Knight(expiring), Clarkson(expiring), save 27 million this year and 42 million next year.


1.) 13 Jun 2019 22:09:08
Bad deal for Cavs. They take on 2 years of bad contracts with Waiters, Johnson, and Schroeder. They can get 13th for JR right now. They will get future 1st for Knight and Clarkson next season. That means they are giving Love away, they won't do that.



12 Jun 2019 22:58:08
The Cavs get J. Johnson, Waiters, Hill(exp), the 4th pick and A lottery protected Lakers 2021

The Pelicans get Love, Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, the 13th, 2 Miami 2nds, a Cleveland 2nd and save 7 million

The Lakers get AD

Miami gets Jr(waive), Moore (expiring) and save 13 million this year plus 26 million next year.


1.) 13 Jun 2019 00:47:06
Not bad, but I think Cavs would pass. They could trade JR for Waiters or Johnson and 13th pick, but are trying to trade JR for future 1st. I think they will wait out free agency and then trade Love for prospect and future 1st. But it's a trade I could live with as a Cavs fan.

2.) 13 Jun 2019 03:58:07
If someone ever offered what the Cavs consider fair value, I think the Cavs would trade Love. The Cavs differ on what they consider fair value. He's injured too much, and he's overpaid.

3.) 13 Jun 2019 05:02:41
I wouldn't mind it. Cavs would have the 4th and 5th pick but I feel like Miami would want the Cavs to take Whiteside as well.



05 Jun 2019 15:13:23
The Cavs get Tyler Johnson, Dieng, Josh Jackson, Okogie, Bates-Diop, and the 11th

The T wolves get Jr Smith(cut), Nance, and Open up a near max contract.

The Suns get Teague (exp) and Henson (exp)


1.) 05 Jun 2019 15:38:03
Tyler johnson has an expiring contract, so basically suns are giving up Jackson who even though hasn't lived up to his potential is still the best player in this trade, for another expiring contract? c'mon they can easily get a much better offer for jackson.

2.) 05 Jun 2019 16:29:27
He’s been bad and he’s facing a felony. His value is in the gutter. They get a defensive minded center and a short term starter/ mentor at pg. They have a much better chance of getting free agents next year and this let's them punt and bring in veterans, who could fill in.

3.) 05 Jun 2019 16:32:03
Cutting Smith doesn't remove his salary from Minn cap since this appesrs to be a post June 30 trade.

Plus, whatever space is going to have to be spent on resigning D. Rose.

4.) 05 Jun 2019 18:09:55
Rose will get overpaid by another team I hope. He plays 60 games at max.

5.) 05 Jun 2019 20:30:11
Then who is running point for Minny after this trade?

6.) 06 Jun 2019 00:06:21
Rkenne Jackson would be the best defender on the Cavs, and prob. The best players since love is always hurt. he's competing with 2 other lottery picks at his position so of course his numbers aren't going to be that of a starting sf. The fact you have the Cavs getting him shows that you know how valuable he is. If he was bad why would u want him?



04 Jun 2019 17:12:19
The Cavs get Moore(exp), the 20th pick, and 2 Boston 2nds

The Celtics get AD and Hill (exp)

The Pelicans get Hayward, Love, Tatum, Hill, the 14th, the 22nd, Boston's 2021 1st and Memphis's 2020 1st

Pelicans starting line up


If Love can give you 60 games and if Hayward can give you a little bit better version of what he was by the end of the season that's a solid playoff team.


1.) 04 Jun 2019 20:56:25
It sounds a little crazy, but that's not a bad trade for most involved. It gives the Pelicans a solid team, although I think they would need to use whatever exceptions they have on a couple of big bangers, but there is a ton of talent on that starting roster.

For the Celtics, I think they would be willing to move those picks if they only had to give up Tatum from the young core.

I think this would be a really smart move for the Cavs, but I think they wind up being the holdup. I don't think they're looking to shed Love's contract, even though they should be. I don't see them getting a much better pick for him either, so they should do this one and start building anew. use the cap space and take on some bad contracts the next few years to get more picks and young talent.

2.) 04 Jun 2019 23:00:53
Yeah, I’m not sure the Cavs do it, but they’d get a huge trade exception and Moore would likely be a guy you can move as an expiring that can also provide shooting for a team like maybe OKC. It feels like you could get atleast another 1st some where in a 2nd trade. Plus, it frees up a lot of other stuff since they wouldn’t be pushed up against fhe luxury tax.




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11 Jun 2019 11:00:34
So are the Knicks now totally screwed?


1.) 11 Jun 2019 13:15:20
There are two things that come to mind:
1. Durant is obsessed with social media, and was getting savaged for sitting out. No doubt pressed him to come back to clean up his reputation.
2. Odd that even THINKING about signing with the Knicks and he's already hurt.

2.) 11 Jun 2019 13:35:26
If you call super tanking "being screwed", then yes.

I wonder about the Nets though. Would they still have dumpped Crabbe salary if they knew about KD's injury?

3.) 11 Jun 2019 13:40:17
Freman -- KD injury changes everything, don't you think? Would Irving go somewhere without him? Would any team risk a max deal on Durant now? Don't the second tier players (Butler, Harris etc. ) become more valuable? So much has changed in the last 12 hours.

4.) 11 Jun 2019 14:23:48
Sign Durant to 4 year max and let him sit out the entire season. Keep Barrett, keep the cap space and tank while developing the young core. Go for the title in 2021 and hope Durant gets back 100%.

5.) 11 Jun 2019 16:46:21
Supercollider, change everything for whom? I think it changes for Kevin Durant. I don't think he wants this to be the departure narrative from Golden State. If he opts in, he only loses about $4 mil in salary (compared to the 1st year of a max salary) . If he can return in 9 months, that would put him coming back during next years playoffs which Klay, Green and Curry will get to.

Really starting to see a scenario where the 2 top FAs opt into their player options for next year. Which will take a lot of steam out of this upcoming off season.

6.) 11 Jun 2019 17:07:28
I see Magsnusarn's scenario being the most likely. And then, in Knicks fashion, Durant never gets back to his old self, they never get another star, their picks become role players, and they stay somewhere between mediocre and bad.

7.) 11 Jun 2019 22:37:18
If he’s available, they should max him, but the Knicks signing a guy with an Achilles injury is so on brand.

8.) 11 Jun 2019 23:18:00
Say Knicks sign butler and kyrie draft the Duke kid. don't they win 45?

9.) 12 Jun 2019 01:35:31
Shiller is that Butler or Kyrie’s best option and maybe they win 45 games. The team around them is still awful and Barrett doesn’t fit well next to two on ball guys.

10.) 12 Jun 2019 14:43:33
Thompson will stay with Golden State. I think Durant and maybe Cousins stay to help each other and play in new stadium. I see Kawhi staying in Toronto. I see Kyrie in Brooklyn and DeAngello Russell with Pacers. I see Butler and Harris staying in Philly. I see Kemba in Charlotte and Vucevic in Orlando.



13 May 2019 15:56:34
I can't believe that I'm living in a world where the Cavs make a legitimately good coaching hire and the coach has spurned NBA advances for the past few years. While the Lakers get two guys that Orlando and Milwaukee threw in the trash after they failed miserably.


1.) 13 May 2019 21:51:10
Welcome to an age where large/ small market means less than the quality of your owner and FO.

And that is why the Clippers will surpass the Lakers soon. Clippers have the better owner, better FO with Jerry West and better head coach.

2.) 13 May 2019 23:45:43
Maybe they brought Kidd in to help develop Ball. Didn’t they choose to not hire Lue over Kidd being on staff or was it just the contract part?

3.) 14 May 2019 01:46:00
They offered him Lue a below market deal and demanded that Kidd be on staff. Lue basically told them to kick rocks.

4.) 14 May 2019 04:12:51
A little bit of both, but Lue felt he deserved a 5 year deal. And he was right.

5.) 14 May 2019 20:01:35
I can’t believe the richest team in the NBA is lowballing coaches. It’s insane. I wonder if the inherent personality of Pelinka to play extreme agent style hardball is hurting them.

6.) 15 May 2019 01:09:15
I mean it’s an honor and a privilege to coach for the Knicks. The coaches should be paying them! ’.

7.) 17 May 2019 20:00:08
I think Phil Jackson doesn't want Lebron on the Lakers and Jeanni Buss doesn't know anything about the basketball side of building a team. She has been on the business side her whole career which means she knows how to sell the Lakers to ticket holders, sponsors and TV. She knows the Lakers need a star (Lebron) to sell. However, she is listening to unproven people to try to serve 2 masters (be competitive with a star and developing the next young star) .



21 Apr 2019 12:23:45
Let's say the Suns end up with the 1st overall pick and your favorite team ends up at 2, we'll also assume the reports about the Suns liking Morant over Zion are true, what would you be ok with your team giving up to get Zion?


1.) 21 Apr 2019 14:02:04
A young player and a future 1st protected.

2.) 21 Apr 2019 14:04:50
I don't think the Suns would pass on ZW.

3.) 21 Apr 2019 18:19:22
A couple articles have came out the past few days that Phoenix would rather have Morant than Zion. I don’t see what putting a rumor like that would do for Phoenix unless they are trying to make it clear that if they get the first pick they’re willing to trade it.

4.) 22 Apr 2019 04:17:45
Jerry West said ZW is a guy you don't pass on. I tend to agree. If he is uninjured, and gets better, he will be a star for the next 10 years easy. A truly monster deal. Something stupid, that never works out for the guy who gives up the most could happen. Never know.



17 Apr 2019 02:53:17
If you had to start a team with the players and assets of any non playoff team, which would it be?


1.) 17 Apr 2019 08:56:21
I think it has to be either the suns, hawks, or Knicks. Suns have the most talent on the roster of all the non playoff teams and they all their future picks. Next year they'll have Booker, Ayton, and most likely either Zion, morant, or Barrett. The hawks have two solid pieces in Trae and Collins and they have 2 top 10 picks this year, all their future picks, and two other 1st rounders. Knicks have all their 1st rounders, also two from the mavs, cap space, and are a major free agent destination.

2.) 17 Apr 2019 08:56:24
Bulls, Kings, Heat, Hawks, Lakers are all a pretty good place to start I think. PHX should be loaded up pretty good next season too.

3.) 17 Apr 2019 13:28:57
Kings look the most playoff ready. Lakers would be as well if they could resolve all the FO and ownership drama. Hawks would be my third choice if they hit with upcoming draft picks.

4.) 17 Apr 2019 15:16:09
Dallss has 2 young guys and a max spot open. Knicks are the best choice with cap space and picks.

5.) 17 Apr 2019 16:16:03
Shiller, Fizdale and Dolan will hold the Knicks back.

6.) 17 Apr 2019 19:58:37
NOP, if Davis sticks around!



28 Mar 2019 01:11:31
If you're Washington and a team is willing to take on Wall for expirings, if you give up your current first, How high would the pick need to be for you to say no?


1.) 28 Mar 2019 04:29:28
I wouldn't trade wall for expiring contracts. I wait till healthy then decide and rebuild on the way.

2.) 28 Mar 2019 04:33:50
Top 5. Wall still has prime years left, he was a better defender than lillard or walker, and scores pretty well too. The cap at 118, and luxury at 143 will make Walls deal seem alright in a couple years, so the Pick needs to be good.

3.) 28 Mar 2019 18:06:00
Wall got numbers but can't shoot and is way overpaid.

4.) 28 Mar 2019 21:10:23
We don’t know if Wall will even be good when he gets back. He could legitimately be awful and he has 5 years left on his contract with the last one being over 50 million dollars. There’s a chance you’re paying a low end starting pg or back up pg 50 million dollars. You have Beal just coming into his prime and with like 2 years left on his deal. If you don’t go full rebuild, you need to get off Wall, if you can. I’d personally think about it at 2 and would definitely do it at 4.

5.) 28 Mar 2019 22:04:37
Wall is not a backup.

6.) 29 Mar 2019 03:36:17
He could aim for highest salaried player to ever win the 6th man award.

7.) 29 Mar 2019 15:32:38
:-) :-) :-)

8.) 29 Mar 2019 17:31:40
NBA16, he just suffered one of the worst injuries possible for a basketball player and his game is dependent on his athleticism. You could be looking at a player that struggles to get to the rim, can’t finish at a high level, gets torched on defense, can’t shoot, and has diminished passing ability given the lack of attention defenders need to pay with him. He also plays the most stacked position in the game. People hated the contract before he tore his Achilles.

9.) 29 Mar 2019 20:45:05
It was a torn Achilles, but under strange circumstances, at home slipping in the shower, right after bone spur surgery in or near the same area? Not in a game though under high physical stress loads. I'm optimistic his return is equal, or better than Cousins. Mathews looks great, but it did take a couple, and a half seasons for him to recover fully. Mathews was a far more severe injury than Wall's from my understanding. It's definitely a 50/ 50 ball, and his 3 shooting needs to improve.

10.) 30 Mar 2019 13:23:24
Jorga. Cousins uses power or footwork. Wall uses speed. Big difference.

11.) 30 Mar 2019 16:04:26
That's why I listed Mathews too. To cover all the bases. Obviously you missed that, by mistake I'm sure.




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19 Jun 2019 18:20:36
I like it for both teams. Allen has some potential as a 3 and d guy. They get two 1sts. They save money and Crowder and Korver are both tradable. I love Conley, but he’s going to be 32 and he’s injury prone.




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19 Jun 2019 12:46:09
finding a 4th team like Boston that could use Capela and giving the assets to Cleveland would make this better. I just don’t see a high level role playing center that isn’t on a rookie deal all that valuable for the Cavs.




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19 Jun 2019 10:23:25
Literally none of this is the least bit realistic.




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19 Jun 2019 03:14:00
That’s awful for the Cavs and Houston.




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19 Jun 2019 03:11:12
Why do the Knicks do that? Kyrie is a free agent and they have space. Not to mention that Houston is getting way to good a deal. If they’re saving that kind of money, they should be giving up picks.





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