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21 Jan 2018 16:19:35
The Cavs get Howard, Batum, Hill, Hood, and Utah's 18 1st top 8 protected

Gives Love, Crowder, Zizic, Smith, Shumpert, Rose, a 1st and a 2

Utah gets Love and Crowder

Hood, Favors, Johnson, a 1st and 2nd

Charlotte gets Joe Johnson (exp), Favors(expiring), Jr Smith and a Cavs 2nd

Gives Howard and Batum

Sacramento gets Rose(waive), Frye(waive), Zizic, Shumpert, The Cavs 18 1st, and a Utah 2nd

Gives Hill


1.) 21 Jan 2018 20:10:09
Utah is conservative, and would never give up that much for Love, and Crowder. I'd rather have Mirotic than Love if I was Utah. Wouldn't have to give a fraction of what this proposition involves.

2.) 21 Jan 2018 23:44:07
Agree with jorgawood, can't see the Jazz trading for Love.



20 Jan 2018 00:10:09
Cavs get Hill and Koufos

The Kings get Shumpert, Osman, Zizic, Frye(waive), Rose(waive), Calderon (waive), Cavs 18, and a Cavs 2nd


1.) 20 Jan 2018 00:59:21
My guess is Thomas is involved, and/ or Thompson. If rumors have truth in them.

2.) 20 Jan 2018 01:45:54
Tristan is a big contract at a spot where the Kings have some young guys they're trying to develop and with Fox in place and IT's history with the Kings he would walk after the season. I think both teams are better off with Thompson and Thomas not being involved.

3.) 20 Jan 2018 04:25:30
Cool. Your deal doesn't get it done. Thompson does suck. Thomas expiring is good for SAC. Doubt Thomas would have a choice. Not playing doesn't bring brinks trucks to your house.



19 Jan 2018 23:45:45
The Hornets are looking to get rid of their bigger long term contracts.

The Hornets get Shumpert, Osman, Zizic, Frank Jackson, Ajinca, the Pelicans first and 2 2nds receive and waive- Frye, Rose, Cunningham, Miller, and Clark

The Cavs get Howard and MKG

The Pelicans get Korver and Lamb

The Hornets immediately save 9 million dollars, save get another 14 million in expiring contracts, and the only contracts that run longer than next year are young guys in Jackson, Osman and Zizic, on very team friendly contracts.

The Cavs get their defense, but have to commit to a ton of salary to do it.

The Pelicans get the wing help they need.


1.) 20 Jan 2018 01:00:48
I wouldn't trade a first for Korver, and Lamb.

2.) 20 Jan 2018 01:43:23
Lambs averaging 14 points a game right now and Korver is averaging ten while shooting almost 44 percent from 3.



18 Jan 2018 04:47:40
Hornets get Shumpert,, Frye, Zizic and a 2nd

The Cavs Howard.


1.) 18 Jan 2018 05:47:14
put tristan thompson on that deal.

2.) 18 Jan 2018 06:13:18
Howard has played well this season. Can't see Hornets looking to deal him, or Walker before deadline. Howard is probably enjoying his time in CHA as well.

3.) 20 Jan 2018 00:29:12
Jorga, it came out today that the Hornets want to dump Howard, Batum, and MKG's salaries.



17 Jan 2018 14:53:27
Saw an article that said Jordan wanted to go to Houston. At first I though it made no sense, but if Houston wants to make a run at Lebron, this might work.

Houston gets Jordan(exp) and Reed (exp)

LA gets Capela, Anderson, Tucker and Houston's 2020 1st

LA gets a younger center that could turn into a Jordan clone plus a first for taking on Anderson's bad contract.


1.) 17 Jan 2018 16:04:14
If Houston gets Deandre, it's not to get Lebron. They will resign Deandre for much more than he should get. He's from Houston, always wanted to play there one day. There's a reason he's the only clipper still in contact with cp3. As a clipper fan, I would do this trade but take out reed and replace him with brice johnson and take out tucker.

2.) 17 Jan 2018 18:39:58
I would rather have Capela for at least 5 important reasons. You attack me about an article saying Lebrons wife wants to move to LA? Call me TMZ? There is nothing about this that is plausible to any HOU fan. Jordan costs too much.

3.) 17 Jan 2018 19:01:56
Jorga, they get back expiring contracts and can try to sign Lebron with a back up plan of resigning Jordan.

4.) 18 Jan 2018 03:27:43
i wouldn't give up capela for dj, period. ill give a contract to 24 year old capela over 30 year old capela in heartbeat. consider clint is on the rise and dj on the decline, capela gives u nearly the same game and still will be cheaper (houston will extend him) . just think capela vs dj as players in 3 yrs.




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20 Jan 2018 01:12:22
The Cavs get George Hill and Deandre Jordan

The Clippers get Thompson, Zizic, Rose, Calderon (waive), the Brooklyn 1st and a Cavs 2nd

The Celtics get Lou Williams

The Kings get Shumpert, Osman, Frye(waive), the Celtics 18 1st and a Celtics 2nd


1.) 20 Jan 2018 01:55:23
The Celtics trade exception only works with one on one trades.



14 Jan 2018 03:36:04
Who do you think are the top 3 players most likely to be traded before the deadline?


1.) 14 Jan 2018 05:35:44
Nikola Mirotic
Tyreke Evans
Jordan Clarkson/ Julius Randle.

2.) 14 Jan 2018 09:43:40
Julius Randle.

3.) 15 Jan 2018 14:43:53
M. Gasol.



05 Jan 2018 19:37:43
With Wiggins in his 4 year in the league and finally on good team, is it safe to say that the Cavs made the right call trading for Love?

Wiggins can score the ball, but really doesn't do anything else at at an average level. He isn't an efficient scorer and is a below average shooter. Combine that with his awful defense and it's hard to imagine him doing well with the Cavs. Obviously, he probably develops differently, but even if he is a little better shooter or a little better on defense, I'm not sure he fits better than Love does at this point with the Cavs. I don't think Wiggins has peaked and with his athleticism there is a ton of potential there, but I don't see him making any huge jumps in year 5 and I would have expected after 2 years under Thibs, this year a lower usage rating and playing next to a similiar guy athelticially that is a 2 way star, we would have seen his defense significantly improve and he seems to be the same guy on that end.

I think for Love, everyone expected him to put up huge numbers similiar to when he was Minnesota. It wasn't really fair given the fact that he went to a team with 2 of the best ball dominant offensive players in the league. He's also playing less minutes and is on a much better rebounding team. Even given that he's been close to 20 and 10 every year and his defense now compared to them is Night and day. He hasn't been great defender, but he has been an average to above average defender on the Cavs. He also spreads the floor, which is key for any player playing with Lebron and helps his teammates get easier shots around the bucket. Every year he seems to become more and more comfortable with his role as well and never seems to get upset with lack of touches or being a third option. He's probably having his best year with the Cavs, you could say that being bumped up to the 2nd option helps, but the year that Irving missed the first half of the season, he wasn't this efficient. I just doubt that the Cavs would be nearly as good if you relaced Love with Wiggins.


1.) 05 Jan 2018 23:49:08
Right now Love is the better player. Hands down. Took a while for V. Carter, and J. R. Smith, and R. Jefferson to be the shooters they are today. Love was the best choice first second CAVS won the Title. Wiggins will develop that jumper, he's still a youngin'. Love upped his Defensive I. Q. A lot this season. Wiggins still needs to work on the D quite a bit. His play, and numbers look like a downtrend I think because Butler is really good, and gets the deserved, and earned touches. Butler is an iron man, and better make an All-Star team, or someone missed something somewhere, Booker, Harden, Butler, and not in that order are the best SG's in the west from what I have seen.

2.) 06 Jan 2018 00:00:14
Both play awful defense. But at least Wiggins has he athleticism to stick with people. Additionally Wiggins is far younger and has cost far less. No, clearly can’t say the Cavs made the right choice. Cavs won a championship so that’s great. Worth it in that respects. But after this year? Good luck.

3.) 06 Jan 2018 02:48:07
Hamburger, unless you care about how much money Dan Gilbert made last year, the amount of money either made isn't a big deal. The Cavs have been well over the cap since Irving's extension kicked in. It's not like the Cavs would have had capspace at any point with Wiggins rather than Love. As for defense, Love is decent defender and Wiggins has been one of the worst defenders in the league. Any metric you look at over the past few years has Love as a significantly better defender. Wiggins has all the physical tools you'd want to defender, but the fact is that he doesn't. I'm not stretching the truth when I say he was IT level bad last year.



03 Jan 2018 17:06:20
Is this possibly the most crowded bunch of players vying for the most improved player award? Jaylon Brown, Porzingas, Olidipo, Aaron Gordon, Jeremy Lamb, Kris Dunn, Mirotic, Drummond, Evans, and Giannis, all seem like solid picks so far and I'm sure I missed a few people. The overall amount of talent (I'm sure pace and outside shooting has something to do with it as well) seems to be at an all time high. The league seems light years better than it was 10 or 15 years ago.




03 Jan 2018 01:28:42
IT looked good in his limited minutes. I was expecting him to look a little slow and rusty, but was pleasantly surprised by how explosive he looked. Maybe just as exciting for the Cavs is Crowder looked as confident and comfortable as I've seen, while playing off IT, since joining the Cavs and was playing with a ton of energy. It seemed to get him in a rhythm. He's been picking it up as the year has gone on, but after 2 and a half quarters, this is the best I've seen him play.


1.) 03 Jan 2018 17:11:41
Boston turned over 11 roster spots last off-season.
Cleveland could be undergoing a similar makeover in 6 months.

2.) 03 Jan 2018 20:03:26
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post, but yeah, it's possible.




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21 Jan 2018 21:09:19
I can see the Cavs making a panic move to shake up the roster, but I can't see any pick except the Cavs 18 pick being a part of it.




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21 Jan 2018 21:05:15
If Hart and a first could get rid of Deng, he would already be gone.




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21 Jan 2018 16:36:33
Once again skills complains about everyone else's trades and adds nothing to the conversation. The switch would save the Kings money and give them a decent prospect in Osman and another young guy in Zizic. The Cavs would probably be looking to flip Crowder after the trade any way and that's the kind of return they'd probably want.




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21 Jan 2018 15:53:09
Darkside, this trade is worth it for the Bucks just to get Delly off the books. He's a useful role player, but he's slightly overpayed, easily replaceable and like you've mentioned several times, the Bucks have a ton of guards. Favors is better than Maker, Henson and Bogut. The fact that he's an expiring is helpful for the Bucks. Even if they still want to go after Jordan, Favors expiring contract is more valuable than Henson.

For the Cavs, I'd rather them just take Favors than Delly or find a way to get MKG, if they make a trade with the Hornets. Delly is a nice hustle player and maybe his fire could give the Cavs some more attitude, but Gilchrest brings a similiar style and a lot more athleticism, which the Cavs desperately need. Plus he can play the 4 in small ball lineups and guard perimeter players and rebound.




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21 Jan 2018 14:17:56
Grant for Shumpert and Lopez for TT are basically lateral moves and there is no way Mirotic is worth a lottery pick.





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