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22 Aug 2019 20:45:08
Boston gets Beal, Thomas and Gasol

Washington gets Smart, Theis, Langford, Simons, Little, Memphis 19 1st, Boston 19 1st, Portland 19 1st and Boston 21 1st lottery protected.

Portland gets Brown.


1.) 22 Aug 2019 23:08:24
Ummm. When you say 19 for draft picks, you really meant 20, right?

Brown worth Simmons, Little and a first? Betting Portland says no, no way.

2.) 22 Aug 2019 23:36:22
Seems like a lot to give up for a nice wing that’s about to get really overpaid.

Also, is Brown much better than Bazemore and Hood? Three firsts better?

3.) 23 Aug 2019 01:34:21
Boston is not looking to do a deal like this. at least not now. If things are not working out, maybe something like this at the deadline. I think they are content to see what their team is like when the real games are played.



22 Aug 2019 10:24:00
The Lakers get Ferguson, Noel, Muscala, Paul and 2 Indy 2nds.

The Thunder get Leaf, Mcdermott, Sumner, KCP, Bradley, Cousins(waive), and Daniels(waive)

Indiana gets Danny Green


1.) 22 Aug 2019 15:40:25
KCP vetoes.

2.) 22 Aug 2019 18:24:12
Okc isn’t giving up Ferguson here

3.) 22 Aug 2019 18:30:48
Who thinks KCP is going to sign off playing in OKC?

4.) 23 Aug 2019 00:06:37
Fredman he has a choice? I thought that was last contract.



21 Aug 2019 11:05:17
The Heat get Gallo, Paul, Horton-Tucker, and two Lakers 2nds

The Thunder get Johnson, Waiters, Leonard(exp), Caldwell-Pope(expiring), Cousins(waive), Caruso, a Lakers 2nd and save 8 million dollars.

The Lakers get Dragic and Noel.

The Heat improve their team and probably end up a piece away from being a contender to come out of the East. Plus, they get some assets for taking on Paul.

I think the Paul stuff is going to go south. They're not going to be that good and Paul wants to be on a contender. They get off Paul, save money, get some smaller assets and open up more cap for this offseason.

The Lakers get the guard that they need who can keep the offense running when Lebron is out and get a center that can give them decent minutes.


1.) 21 Aug 2019 13:23:04
KCP can veto. And probably would.

Also we are talking about Lakers 2nds 2023-2025. Seems like a while for compensation.



19 Aug 2019 11:13:05
Deadline deal

The Knicks get Wall and Beal

The Wiz get Portis, Morris(exp), Gibson, Ntilikina, Smith and Knox

The Knicks get a star, instead of just weighting on free agency. They'll have plenty to build around him with and Wall could come back and still be pretty good. If not, you have the assets to deal him the summer of 2021, when there is a good free agent class.

The wizards get off of Wall's contract and can rebuild. They also get some talented guys that have a lot of upside. Giving the new front office a fresh start up a probably appealing to the wiz.


1.) 19 Aug 2019 12:01:23
Who are the 4 players Washington is going to waive to create roster spots to complete this deal?

2.) 19 Aug 2019 12:54:09
Jones, Mccrae, Thomas and Mahinmi.

3.) 19 Aug 2019 14:59:09
The wizards don’t want back Bobby Portis.

4.) 19 Aug 2019 21:45:52
Love 2 1st for Morris makes more sense, rkenne.

5.) 20 Aug 2019 07:49:53
Now if you said

Barrett (Payton Ellington Trier-all exp) dal 21 23
Beal Jones

Which = Porzingis Barrett for Beal

Smith/ Ntilikina/ Garrett
Beal/ Dotson/ Jones
Knox/ Brazdeikas/ Bullock
Portis/ Morris/ Wooten
Randle/ Robinson/ Gibson.



15 Aug 2019 14:35:26
The Cavs get Saric, Bridges, Jerome, Johnson(expiring) and a top 10 protected suns 1st

The Suns get Love and Sexton


1.) 15 Aug 2019 16:01:21
Suns don't want love. Is salary is crippling. Saric fills the same role at a much cheaper price. Plus suns are huge on bridges. Love can't play more than 30 or 40 games a year. That's almost a million a game.




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15 Aug 2019 14:25:04
Let's say that the Stepien rule doesn't exist, you are an expansion team that has no one on the roster, the Bucks want to trade Giannis for nothing but picks and someone from the future told you that if your team trades for Giannis, he'll stay there for his entire career. How many consecutive picks would you be willing to give up for him?


1.) 15 Aug 2019 16:36:00
Will he give hometown discounts as well? Or are teams paying 40 mil a year for every year?

2.) 15 Aug 2019 17:13:40
7? You give up a lot to get him. He just lead a team of nice vets to the best record in the NBA without another true star.

Hometown discount doesn't matter, he's 100% worth the supermax and you give it to him happily.

3.) 15 Aug 2019 23:39:33
Hometown discounts means more picks I am willing to give up. Probably 3-4 if I am paying supermax and I can get the shooters around him.

Bet thd Bucks take a step back this year?

4.) 16 Aug 2019 14:33:46
Step back meaning the #1 seed in the east, but not the best record in the NBA?

Who in the east is passing them? I have no faith in Phili. I have no faith in Boston. Indy would have a chance if Oladipo was going to be healthy to start the season, but he's not. Toronto isn't good enough (unless Siakim becomes a top 10 player) .

5.) 16 Aug 2019 14:34:28
So you wouldn't give up more for Giannis than teams already have in real life for George or Davis? To me, he's without a doubt better than both.

6.) 16 Aug 2019 18:49:59
I am not sure I would give you better than Anthony Davis. Healthier? Definitely. But skill-wise, Giannis lack of shooting cancels any youthful athletic advantage Giannis has in the transition game. However, in a halfcourt game, AD's versitility is greater. If AD were younger and could play 82 games a season, they would be pretty equal.

7.) 16 Aug 2019 23:18:43
I’d take Giannis over Davis because of his passing an ball handling. It just gives him significantly more control over the game. Giannis was also ridiculously efficient last year on the offensive end and statistically there isn’t a huge difference in their jumpers. Teams are going to sag off both guys.

I was thinking like 8 or 9 1sts. You’re talking about a 25 year old two way monster that has no real injury history and has gotten better every year. You are probably getting your number one guy for the next ten years.

8.) 17 Aug 2019 03:15:41
The problem with giving uo all those firsts is that you only have one way of getting talent around him. Signing Free Agents and the salary cap limits how much you can add as well.

9.) 17 Aug 2019 12:09:34
You have 90 million dollars though. You could chase some restricted guys this summer, you could use your space to add picks and punt the space for a few years, you can go after veteran role players and etc. you’d have the freedom to do almost anything. What if this year/ summer, you go out and get like Hield and Otto Porter for 50 million, get some picks and competent but over payed player with the remaining money and then take some chances on cheap veterans and young retreads. Then go into next free agency with a max slot. You’d likely have a window of 10 years to go get a title.

10.) 17 Aug 2019 18:18:45
I'm taking AD. Most dominate big man in league on both ends and think lbj will take a lot of pressure off him and he stay healthy. like cousins did but cousins couldn't stay healthy. Giannis got exposed by Leonard. Plus need to shoot better.

11.) 17 Aug 2019 19:20:34
He averaged 24 6 and 15 or something in that series. His scoring was down a little bit, but he didn't lay an egg or something. He wasn’t quite as good as he normally is. He’s a 24 year old monster, who has gotten better every year.

12.) 18 Aug 2019 11:07:04
Giannis is good, but not twice as good as Davis, so not worth twice the draft picks that New Orleans got for Davis (disregarding the argument that the Lakers overpaid for Davis) .

13.) 18 Aug 2019 22:21:11
Not saying he is not talented. Just perhaps not TWICE as talented as AD since you want to give DOUBLE the amount of first rounders. And the Lakers overpaid for AD on top of it (So did OKC for PG13). So giving up 3-4 would still be saying that Giannis is better than AD.

14.) 18 Aug 2019 22:23:16
Yeah, but it wasn’t just picks in the Davis deal, one was the 4th pick and they structured the picks to where they get their best picks over the next 5 or so years. Even if you think that Ingram and Ball are only worth one 1st each, you are already up to 6 1sts without weighting the swaps or talking about the other stuff they got in the trade. I’d also argue that Ball and Ingram are worth more than just a 1st.

If I were going to break that trade down to what the value of the picks are

Ingram 2, Ball 2, the 4th 2, the two 1sts that the Pelicans can roll over 3, and the Cavs protected 2020 plus Hart is 1.

That adds up to 10 and you could probably argue more, if you really like Ball, Hart and/ or Ingram.

15.) 19 Aug 2019 01:47:14
See I don't give the players in the trade much value. To me they were just salary fillers because Lakers were just trying to ship them out to create a 3rd max slot. I might give you one first for the whole lot.



01 Aug 2019 11:44:32
Can anyone explain to me the rational behind the Knicks signing 4 pfs? I was looking at their roster and trying to make some sense out of it and I'm blanking. Not to mention that Knox is probably a 4 and Barrett should probably be playing some 4 as well.


1.) 01 Aug 2019 12:16:46
Its the Knicks understanding of positionless basketball?

Also, if 4 PFs are the only ones willing to take your money.

2.) 01 Aug 2019 14:50:09
Maybe they think they can get value out of those guys in trades? Get the most valuable players on the best value contracts and then flip them later on?

3.) 01 Aug 2019 21:21:04
Also, they're either playing Knox and Barrett at the wings, or they're completely sabotaging their youth.

I guess it could be both.



31 Jul 2019 13:08:19
Assuming everyone plays a minimum of 60 games and all playoff games, how far does this team go?

Paul/Patty Mills
Love/ Jeff Green


1.) 31 Jul 2019 13:39:55
Eastern or Westetn Confetence? First round of playoff exit?

Better question. What is the amount of luxury tax this team pays?

2.) 31 Jul 2019 14:01:55
West: miss the playoffs in the 9 or 10 spot.

East: 7-8 seed and swept in the first round.

3.) 31 Jul 2019 16:39:28
Team need Vince Carter added. finally noticed the common thread of all the players.



08 Jul 2019 15:42:20
Denver gets Grant for their 2020 1st. That seems like a steal.


1.) 08 Jul 2019 16:25:25
I like it for both. Denver is clearly win now, and making moves like it. OKC cashes in a nice role player for a future first, as a tanking team should.

This clearly send the message that Westbrook (and Gallo) are going to be moved I think.

2.) 08 Jul 2019 16:28:29
Backup/ Small ball 4 for a late 1st? I guess so. Also uses a trade exception that expires at the trade deadline. Probably a move made because of Porter Jr's injury?

3.) 08 Jul 2019 17:23:23
Thunder mainly did it to save over 30mil in luxury tax, but yea a low 1st round pick os a steal in my opinion. I feel like OKC should have gotten a 2nd out of it too.

4.) 08 Jul 2019 19:39:35
@rlc35 grant ain't all that. Be grateful someone gave you a first while saving OKC $30 mil.



01 Jul 2019 00:00:30
Utah is going to be good.





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22 Aug 2019 15:15:05
The Heat and Lakers both get shafted.




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21 Aug 2019 13:19:30
The Heat have basically came out and said that they aren’t trading Paul for free. It just doesn’t make sense with how he played last year and the years left.




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21 Aug 2019 11:07:27
The Suns.




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21 Aug 2019 11:07:08
That’s just not enough to take on Wiggins.




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21 Aug 2019 11:05:54
The suns are giving up way to little in both trades imo.





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