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10 Nov 2018 19:57:20
Philly trades fultz, Chandler and two first for Irving.
Irving
Reddick
Butler
Simmons
Embiid

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1.) 10 Nov 2018 20:54:10
If Irving wasn't on a good team already maybe.


2.) 10 Nov 2018 21:01:22
Celtics have no use for Fultz or Chandler, and Ainge has so many first-rounders already that he's now leaving them for dinner tips.


3.) 10 Nov 2018 21:21:45
How about Boston trades Kyrie and 2 first round picks for Simmons.


4.) 10 Nov 2018 22:03:24
For Giannis yes. Simmons? I'd keep Irving for the next few years, and see where simmons is at. Not shooting would be hard on the celtics this season.


5.) 11 Nov 2018 01:18:04
I’d play him at the power forward with
Rozier
Brown
Hayward
Simmons
Horford.


6.) 11 Nov 2018 07:10:34
I have Tatum never leaving the starting lineup.


 

 

04 Nov 2018 21:27:11
Lakers get Davis Thompson and green

Warriors get LBJ and McGee

Pelicans get 6 first 2 warriors and 4 Lakers, kuzma, Hart, kcp and ball

Rondo
Thompson
Ingram
Green
Davis

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1.) 04 Nov 2018 23:45:47
No!


2.) 05 Nov 2018 02:11:46
Lebron has a no trade clause.


3.) 05 Nov 2018 11:14:09
No, he doesn’t have it anymore.


4.) 05 Nov 2018 17:37:41
GSW gives up half of their core 4 AND picks for Lebron. that's laughable And the Davis part is just as laughable.


 

 

26 Oct 2018 02:14:59
Suns get love, Clarkson and hood and cavs 2019 second

Cavs get Anderson, and dieng 2020 top 3 protected 1st Suns And wolves next available first

Wolves get ariza

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21 Oct 2018 05:08:04
Lee hardaway and Thomas for smith and hill. I think cavs can become better something they wouldn't do in free agency and Knicks clear cap to chase stars

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1.) 21 Oct 2018 13:14:49
The Cavs get marginally better at best. There is much better ways to use your cap space than helping the Knicks clear cap for free.


2.) 21 Oct 2018 18:28:55
Then who would the cavs sign in off season or trade for without giving up picks to get better. hardaway actually playing pretty good.


3.) 21 Oct 2018 19:47:31
They can resign Hood or use the contracts to get picks. They can buy out the deals and put the money in the bank to save for a time when they get back to the luxury. You can overpay a mediocre players of your choosing over the next few years.


4.) 21 Oct 2018 20:53:38
Durant would have to grow tired of contending, Irving would have to change his mind, Leonard too, Butler would have to drop the wanting to win now demand for his next contract so what stars would actually choose NY at this stage in their so far successful rebuild? Wouldn't acquiring assets by trade or using cap be the logical next step? The wolves are a good example of why you don't trade the stble for 1 horse. I'm not trading hardaway as long as he keeps playing out of his mind! 17 mil is a bargain if he continues to play like he has the last 2 games.


5.) 21 Oct 2018 22:31:39
Hardaway is putting up points, but he’s shooting 23 shots a game on like 41 percent shooting and that includes shooting 7 percent north of his career 3 point average. His efficiency is bad right now and when those 3s stop falling, it’s going to be even worse. That’s not even to mention that even with the higher usage rate, he’s not averaging any more assists than he was last year. He has one skill and it’s volume scoring. The Knicks currently have the shots to give him, but if he had a decent team around him, you wouldn’t want him taking all of those shots.


6.) 22 Oct 2018 00:52:12
I don't want to see cavs get picks and take on contracts for picks. I want to see the cavs make playoffs in my hometown. There no guarantee they can resign hood, I think hardaway be there best option like they paid Tt 18 why not pay hardaway. Meaning best option not giving up nothing to get a good player.


7.) 22 Oct 2018 01:03:32
Didn’t butler literally say he wants the nets Knicks or clippers as his top choice. Fail to see that as a win now demand.


8.) 22 Oct 2018 03:04:01
He changed that to win now, to large market, to Miami, to? So in your eyes butler is going to NY this free agency? I would take the betting odds against that.


9.) 22 Oct 2018 04:12:05
I think Butler should team up with Leonard in la clip.


10.) 22 Oct 2018 15:33:21
I think the Knicks should be staying the course at this point. Their last couple of drafts have been pretty solid. They need to keep building through the draft, and if possible unload Hardaway. He's a good sixth man scorer off the bench, but doesn't have the contract to go along with it. Lee should be a solid chip this season as well. Bring in picks and shed some salary in an attempt to lure a big guy. If Durant and Butler, for example, want to team up in NY, you have a few young players to add to them, and you're in the East. It's not as easy as it was previously, but it's still easier than getting through Golden State.


11.) 22 Oct 2018 22:24:35
If Durant were to go to the east getting through golden state wouldn't be that difficult. Why I don't see Durant leaving the warriors. Butler has said many things, but winning soon seems like a no brainer for a 29 going on 30 professional basketball player who hasn't really won anything yet. Add him to the knicks and you probably can get to the playoffs, beyond that is anyone's guess. Definitely not better than the celtics or raptors still. I don't see the point if winning isn't guaranteed, barring injury? If they just love NY and don't care about dirtball Dolan being the owner then anything is possible, but not likely or realistic.


 

 

28 Sep 2018 07:38:19
Kuzma,kcp, and Stevenson plus 2019 pick for Butler. James mcgee Butler rondo and Ingram better then Irving smith James tt and love. Gives Lakers better chance to win even if Butler go to NY teams or the clippers it be worth it

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1.) 28 Sep 2018 13:04:44
Nah Lebron was 3-4 years younger then and there ain’t know one close to Kyrie in that line up.


2.) 28 Sep 2018 15:41:18
It's closer than I'd like to think, but Rad is right saying LeBron was younger then. None of them are to Irving's level, but Butler is close. The big issue to me is who in the Lakers group is on par with Love? Ingram has potential, but Love is still really good, no matter how much they made him the scapegoat in Cleveland. McGee and Rondo might be better than Smith and Thompson, but I don't think they are. It's pretty even there. So all in all, the Cavs group is better than the Lakers. but not by a landslide.


3.) 28 Sep 2018 16:18:45
also, the wolves want more than just kuzma and a likely super late 1st.


4.) 28 Sep 2018 16:58:08
Lakers will have to give up Ingram if they want Butler. Not going to happen. They would rather try to poach him next summer.


5.) 28 Sep 2018 17:45:49
This offer better then most the ones I seen online, IT'S why Butler still there cause teams not giving up nothing good to get him. This better then the one posted above and below. You get a young player who was first rookie team on a great contract. a good player with experience who can shooot. Plus a mystery pick between 22-28 in a decent draft.


6.) 28 Sep 2018 17:55:05
Soxfan I think differently because love wasnt really a good fit or didn't play good enough defense. green used to lock love down he not doing that to James playing pf and Butler at sf with Ingram at the two. Love was there third option but at times Smith was really especially 2016.


7.) 28 Sep 2018 20:33:00
It's difficult to trade with the Lakers or Celtics. They make inferior offers and hope someone is dumb enough to bite. If they lose out on a trade they tamper with the player's contract and then try to steal him in free agency.


 

 

 

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01 Nov 2018 07:29:05
How was ball in that game

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1.) 02 Nov 2018 17:16:45
how was he the 2 beforehand? if 12pts, 7 assists and 4 rebounds is the standard for bragging on the second overall pick. congrats, you got the new version of Darko lol.


2.) 03 Nov 2018 02:20:29
Ball being a second pick and now playing behind James kuzma Ingram 4 th option that is pretty solid numbers but he has allot of improvements though.

He played first two games okay then next three where great and next two lousy then last game good so overall that's solid.


3.) 03 Nov 2018 14:38:41
Lol. That’s why you wait for a season as a sample size instead of claiming his shooting has been fixed after 5 games. And evaluating his abilities after every 2-3 games is so dumb.

Again. He may turn out to be a decent player in the league. But definitely shows glaring issues which will limit his potential. I can’t see him ever being an all star. He just isn’t that type of player. And frankly, I see him largely turning into jahlil okafor. Pads stats. Horrible defense. Ultimately not a foundational piece to a winner.


4.) 03 Nov 2018 18:41:49
It is fixed its up to him to keep it up.


 

 

31 Oct 2018 22:52:44
Knight Gordon and chriss plus four first for Butler and dieng

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28 Oct 2018 01:06:15
What if young players started doing this if they didn't like there teams.. don't sign any contract extensions and sign a two year deal with player option with the team you wanna play so if your team your on matches the next year you can leave with player option and sign with the team you wanted

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1.) 28 Oct 2018 02:31:41
A couple problems with that. 1st, it’s most players first big pay day. They don’t want to leave the guaranteed money on the table. Plus, they can lock in that sea a year early. It gives them long term financial security. 2nd, sure fire max guys aren’t going to draw offer sheets. Teams have no incentive to offer them. They aren’t pushing up the price for the guy and they don’t have a chance of the team not matching. 3rd, gms and the NBA probably don’t want it to happen.


2.) 28 Oct 2018 18:37:48
Say a guy like Simmons don't want to play in Philly and wanted to join another team because embiids health. So he becomes restricted free agent and signs with clippers for two year deal so Philly match the following year Simmons can play for the clippers by opting out that two year deal. He getting MAX money that year and controlling where he signs after his first four years in league becoming a unrestricted free agent. If I'm unhappy with my team success and direction this what I would pull. League can't do nothing to change that. It's a way around being an team you don't want to be. Just saying thatt would be crazyy.


3.) 28 Oct 2018 19:55:29
So the Clippers clear out max cap space. They then offer it to a guy who is going to be matched and get no one told that summer because every other max guy has already agreed by the time their money is freed up. They then have to hope that the 76ers don’t appease Simmons or shop him to a team he’s willing to sign with because he’s ineligible to be traded to them that year since he they tried to sign him to an offer sheet. The team takes a huge risk that they strike out 2 years in a row with a ton of money and risk other teams being less willing to deal with them.

Let’s not forget that the league could punish them for tampering as well. The league doesn’t seem to like the star movement, there were already rumors that the league might have gotten involved with the Paul George stuff and that wasn’t half as blatant as what your describing. If league didn’t get involved, the small market teams make up the majority of the league and their owners wouldn’t stand by and be ok with something like that happening. Even if, it somehow got through, it would be a sticking point at the next cba negotiations.

Also, Ben Simmons, who hasn’t signed a huge deal, gotten his own signature shoe, or any other ridiculous money turns down an extra 50 plus million dollars and waits a year before he locks in the first 50 million? That’s a pretty big risk to take just to get off the Sixers a year or 2 early. All of these guys are a health issue or major injury away from having their career yanked away from them.


4.) 28 Oct 2018 21:32:44
The team most likey would already have the cap like soon the team match you sign a couple one year deals, tank that year and clear cap to sign following year. Have a good pick too it's win win for the player and team who the player is going to. If the player Bail you will get the cap space you had before plus have a great pick.


5.) 29 Oct 2018 15:23:13
They don’t do it because of the money. These aren’t guys that have made 200+ million. They’re guys that have made 15-20. That first max deal is a huge life changing moment.

Also, finding a two year contract with a player option on year two as a restricted free agent probably isn’t as easy to get as you think. Why tie up a max contract spot on an offer sheet that will 100% be matched? It’s pointless for the team. And the team that owns the rights wouldn’t offer two years, its max years or take the QO and walk away from an enormous amount of money.


6.) 29 Oct 2018 16:53:27
Echoing the comments above, the flaw with this is not only betting on your talent but betting on your health. You used Simmons as an example. While he is great (minus shooting, I was at the game this weekend and seriously saw him miss 9 straight free throws in warm ups) he also did miss the entire first year. There are a lot of stud young players, but also many of them have serious health concerns. Its easy for us to say, wait and get paid in a year or two, but if you are someone offered 100 to 150 million, I assure you, you aren't passing that. 11 times out of 10 you are taking it.


7.) 30 Oct 2018 04:11:19
You will turn down if you don't want to be there because after the year after the next year you know you that great you going to get paid.


8.) 30 Oct 2018 14:18:47
There's a reason why it's never happened in the history of the NBA. Because the money is worth more than being in a good place. And most of the time that team is build building, so it's easy to think that you are building a championship contender 3 years into your career. Look at teams like NO (Davis), Portland (Lillard), Washington (Wall), Cleveland (Lebron), LAC (Blake), and I'm sure I could list quite a few more. All of those guys thought they were building a championship type team, and they all could have been on that path if things went differently.

And again, you have to convince a team to go along with this idea, which they wouldn't because it doesn't help them short term. A GM isn't going to help a player get a contract like that with the hope that you come to that team in a couple years. Likely, that GM is fired before that happens, or the player changes their mind and goes somewhere else (and then the GM is fired) .


9.) 30 Oct 2018 15:12:28
Yeah, again II. its rather easy for us to say we will turn it down for a year. But that isn't reality. Regardless of how much confidence you have in yourself, you still need to perform at a peak level to obtain a max contract. AND you need to not get injured. I don't care if you want out. sign and demand a trade. But no one. NO ONE. is rejecting 150 million, even if there is only a 20% chance you don't get it a year later. It just isn't reality, nor reasonable.


10.) 31 Oct 2018 00:11:23
I agree with you guys but I'm just saying that would be a crazy way to force your way out of a team.


 

 

27 Oct 2018 23:50:13
First 5 games ball almost averaging 13 points and 7 7 plus shooting 53 fg and 40 from downtown. I remember there where haters saying he couldn't improve so far so good. Went 2-1 when he started. Plus Hart is playing great for a role player. McGee is exceeding expectations and kuzma is balling. I said the Lakers could average 125 and so far they are there struggle is defense if that improves they going to be scary.



Btw the pelicans are surprising me so far I had them missing the playoffss.

II

1.) 28 Oct 2018 14:50:50
Trusting lance and McGee is dangerous. Hart looks good but he is Lakers only two way young guy. Lonzo and rondo are the same guy and not sure it fits with lebron. If they average 125 they will give up 129.


2.) 28 Oct 2018 15:38:09
Scary? They’re a solid team because they have Lebron, but they will need Igram to take a big leap this year to even have a chance at getting out of the first round.

The whole team is just weirdly constructed.

Their 3 best scorers are all probably best suited for playing pf.
They have 1 serviceable center on the roster and he’s probably at his best playing 20 minutes a game.

They have 2 ball dominant pgs that don’t shoot, are weird fits next to their star, and can't play together.

In a league built around shooting, they have no one approaching an elite caliber shooter.

Their best perimeter defenders’ offensive games don’t fit next to their pgs or Lebron.

They have more problems than answers than any Lebron team in the past 9 or 10 years. They have more talent than possibly last year’s Cavs and definetly more than the pre decision Cavs, but those teams at least made sense from a team building sense. This team just seems like a weird 2k collection players that have the best ratings they could get.


3.) 28 Oct 2018 18:42:41
If you can play solid defense and average 120 plus that's scary.

There team built so the youth can grow. And go after another star next year. They signed the best players available to them not fits.


4.) 28 Oct 2018 20:23:40
Sure, if they score a lot and don’t give up a lot, they’ll win more games.

The problem is that playing with pace isn’t just you scoring more points, the other team does as well. You can add in Kuzma playing center and Lebron conserving his energy on defense as problems as well. They’ll get a little better with continuity, but to truly fix their defense, they’ll need to make changes that will hamper their offense.

I agree that they signed the players that they deemed the best talent they could acquire, but I’d argue that it’s a bad strategy. Personality and fit matter. Just for example, Lebron, Igram, Rondo, Ball, Stephenson, Beasley, and Kuzma are all guys that need the possessions to be at their best, but there is only one ball. Rondo, Ball, Beasley, Stephenson, Mcgee, and Lebron all bring a lot of baggage to the lockerroom. If they keep piling up losses, guys don’t get minutes or guys don’t get their touches (the last 2 are inevitable), will they start disrupting the lockerroom? The Lakers are already messy. There is a chance that it gets worse. Again, Lebron can carry them through a regular season, but beyond that it’s hard to see much else this year and it’s going to look bad at times along the way.


5.) 28 Oct 2018 21:41:37
Your missing the Lakers plan.

They signed those players because there the best they could and have cap for next year. This year is a learning year for the youth to grow and Lakers hopefully sign another star to play with James ball Ingram Hart kuzma and others. But McGee rondo Stevenson kcp and Beasley are one year rentals. Defense takes time to gel plus the suspensions made it worse.


6.) 29 Oct 2018 15:25:58
If it’s a year to build the young guys, why sign those vets and take minutes away from the youth? Rondo is the perfect example. He won’t be happy coming off the bench, why get him and limit Ball’s minutes?


7.) 29 Oct 2018 17:12:38
How are you pumping up a team that is 2-4, and one of those wins is against the freaking suns. Their problems are what everyone said they were. outside of lebron, no one is looking too special. Their defense is horrific. And thus far, all of the top tier max players have already made it clear they don't want to play with lebron.

For the lakers organization, this is a failure. You don't sign a guy who will be 34 soon, with the hopes of building a solid surrounding team by the time he is what, 35/ 36?

The lakers organization really doesn't seem to have a legit plan. Its all based on signing this mystery max player, which will not put them over the edge of contender.

Also, as a side note, ball is averaging less across the board with the exception of pts, which is up half a point a game. He is proving to be a decent stat stuffer, but not a game changer. Who knows, perhaps hell learn defense some day.


8.) 30 Oct 2018 04:13:18
Ball improved his fg and 3 pt % which was a big flaw.


9.) 30 Oct 2018 15:18:03
His big flaws are his shooting and his defense. His defense is still horrible. His Free throws are currently at 57%, which is horrible. His 3 is at 36% which is average. And this was after a 7 game sample size (way too small) .

If you actually look at metrics beyond merely the shooting percentages, so far, he is one of the worst players in the league.

Offensively, his team's ORtg is 14 points better when he is off the court.

Defensively, his team's DRtg is 12 pts better when he is off the court.

His overall effect on the court is almost negative 26. THAT IS HORRIFIC.


10.) 30 Oct 2018 15:23:46
The really sad thing about the lakers and their confusing offseason. you have the best player in the league at the back end of his prime, and it will be wasted. They likely will have trouble simply making the playoffs, which makes it even less attractive for the mysterious max free agent to sign (even though all that have given any information have stated they had little to no interest playing with lebron before they started losing) .


11.) 31 Oct 2018 00:30:20
To me the Lakers are doing okay compared to Houston and OKC.


12.) 31 Oct 2018 21:32:27
3 over hyped teams that’s are bombing. However. Houston has a valid reason. Injuries and suspensions. Lakers are just bad.


 

 

24 Oct 2018 10:02:34
I noticed people hate on BG like he over paid and washed up. I always thought he had it still just need to start healthy like he is now.

II

1.) 24 Oct 2018 10:28:31
Yes he can be freak of nature on his day.


2.) 24 Oct 2018 13:31:25
We'll see about the health.


3.) 24 Oct 2018 17:17:54
He’s still a borderline allstar and he’s not overpaid this year, but given his knee injuries, regression, and style of play, the almost 40 million dollars that he’ll make 3 years from now is pretty concerning.


4.) 24 Oct 2018 19:24:01
I think he the second best pf in the east behind giannis.


5.) 24 Oct 2018 22:08:58
I find it weird that Giannis is considered a PF. He's a wing. I realize he starts at "PF" for the Bucks, but realistically, they start two guards, two wings, and a big. None of those players are a power forward.

Yet, AD is considered a PF too, even though he plays center pretty much exclusively.

Also, ESPN has Wiggins as a PG. I hope that's just a mistake, cause that's ridiculous.


6.) 24 Oct 2018 23:26:25
I'm not down on Wiggins that much but 1.2 assists per game is laughable for a PG.


 

 

 

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13 Nov 2018 00:29:33
knight And capella plus 4 first ain't worth LBJ. Maybe next year if no Star join lbj with 38 mil on cap space Lakers could trade him.

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07 Nov 2018 01:38:39
Lakers and LBJ was rare.

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04 Nov 2018 19:37:37
I think they lock Durant up with a 5 year super Max. Like green said he want that award and super max money comes with him getting it. So his agent can say look he want the max extension or he going to test free agency. Say my situation right where cousins and Thompson walk warriors would have no choice but to max him out or at least close to it.

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04 Nov 2018 02:37:39
So you don't think in off season Lakers philly and other teams not going to offer Thompson the max. That's logical that teams with cap will offer Thompson a Max not just the Lakers. i think they 3 peat and break up because money. No way all four those players get max contracts which they deserve especially what love Griffin wall and Conley are getting paid.

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03 Nov 2018 23:14:20
I didn't say he would sign with the Lakers just saying warriors not going to max out 4 players. Durant max AND curry max. green more important then Thompson so I think Thompson the odd man.

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