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16 Aug 2017 09:23:39
If Knicks swing
Noah Porzingis for Irving

Rockets get Melo
Knicks get Dieng Henson Ariza Teletovic
Bucks get Anderson Aldrich
Wolves get Lee Thomas

Irving/Ntilikina/Session
Hardaway/Baker/Randle
Ariza/Dotson/Kuzminkas
Dieng/Henson/Teletovic
Hernangomez/O'Quinn/Kornet

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1.) 16 Aug 2017 13:32:07
Why would Minnesota just give away Dieng for almost nothing?


2.) 16 Aug 2017 19:01:25
Lee and thomas represent back up position of needs vs pf/ c

Lee is just better all around player than Dieng.


 

 

15 Aug 2017 16:39:16
Rockets get Melo
Jazz get Anderson Lee Thomas Houston future 1st
Knicks get Dieng Johnson Burks Favors Aldrich
Wolves get Noah OQuinn Ariza

Burks and Favors are injury prone. Lee and Anderson is just better Thomas future 1st is fair trade Johnson.ny cares about years remaining as they are rebuilding.

Ntilikina/Baker/Session
Hardaway/Burks/Randle
Johnson/Dotson/Kuzminkas
Dieng/Favors/Beasley
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Aldrich

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1.) 15 Aug 2017 17:08:15
You should probably add 2 unprotected 1st rounders to Minnesota, nobody is taking Noah without it.


2.) 15 Aug 2017 17:20:47
No doubt that Noah is the worst deal in this trade, but Aldrich would be second. Based on having once less year and less AAV, I do agree the Wolves get additional compensation, but I don't see more than one first going there way.


3.) 15 Aug 2017 21:29:18
The Jazz wouldn't trade Favors who when healthy is a top 40 player who defends, rebounds, and scores on the inside for Anderson and Burks for basically an older version in Courtney Lee. In all reality the Jazz don't need Anderson as they have a pretty complete roster at this point. The Wolves would need at least two 1st Round picks if they were to take on Noah. The Rockets won't do a Nelo deal unless all they have to give up is Anderson and a first round pick and frankly they shouldn't become they need to keep depth. Trading Ariza or Capela or an extra first rounder would only be to the Rockets' detriment.


4.) 15 Aug 2017 23:08:44
I don't know much of a difference , with Dieng and Noah except age and health from what I know O'Quinn and Ariza bring to the bench more value then anybody they have no picks needed. Ariza is coming over for Melo.


 

 

12 Aug 2017 22:37:25
With Randolph banned his contracted will voided. December trade

Kings get Anderson Randle
Knicks get G.Hill Henson hou 2020
Bucks get Black Onuaka Long
Rockets get Melo

CP3/Williams/Taylor
Harden/Gordon/Quartermann
Ariza/Tucker/Williams
Melo/Ariza/Oliver
Capela/Nene/Hartenstein

Fox might be already better than Hill. Develop play the young guys.

Fox/Mason/Temple
Hield/Richardson/Randle
Bogdonavic/Jackson/Carter
Anderson/Labissiere/Giles
Stein/Papagianis/Koufos

Develop Ntilikina slowly
Lee hou 2020 for MKG

Hill/Sessions/Ntilikina
Hardaway/Baker/Dotson
MKG/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Henson/O'Quinn/Beasley
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Noah

Bucks cut future payroll
Teletovic Hawes Parker for Faried Chandler

Brogdon/Dellavedova/Lewis
Middleton/Snell/Brown
Chandler/Wilson/Vaughn
Giannis/Faried/Onuaku
Maker/Monroe/Long

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1.) 13 Aug 2017 00:17:11
I don't see what motivates the Kings to trade a Hill for a bad contract and little else or why the Bucks trade a decent player for nothing but some minor cap relief.

I also don't think Lee and what looks to be a late first 3 years from now gets you MGK.


2.) 13 Aug 2017 18:09:45
I wouldbt give up on Parker yet if I'm bucks.


 

 

10 Aug 2017 20:18:28
Pelicans get Parsons Lee
Grizzlies get Hill Thomas Noah
Knicks get Daniels Temple Ennis Baldwin Asik
Kings get Moore 2 NY

Pelican get experience wings who can stretch the floor. For there PG to create for their 2 all-star bigs

Grizzlies improve strength and health at SF. Getting better contracts (Noah over Parsons). Add backup center with depth and exp. while Wright starts at PF.

Knicks use Thomas and Lee to move Noah. They improve future cap space. They can stretch Asik or move him for Aldrich or include him in trade with Melo.

Kings improve sg

shizzee

1.) 10 Aug 2017 20:52:28
Dumb as.


2.) 10 Aug 2017 21:37:42
Why would Kings improve SG? They already have Hield, Temple, Bogdanovic and Richardson.

I think Pels would rather keep Hill and stretch Asik themselves.

Both Knicks and Grizzlies have to include at least one 1st rounder to move Noah or Parsons.


3.) 11 Aug 2017 18:25:03
Let's include combination Hill Moore and Asik equal Parsons or Noah when requiring to include 1st. Dumb as he say thinking he spin that into Melo. With to premier bigs pelicans failed make playoff bc roster is garbage. 2 solid pg. No wing Parsons and Lee > Hill and Moore.


 

 

06 Aug 2017 19:42:43
I can't think of better trade than this
Rockets get Melo
Hornets get Anderson Ariza Lee Future Rockets 1st
Knicks get M.Will MKG Lamb


Hornets become a deep contender team of the east

Walker/MCW/Paige
Lee/Monk/Bacon
Batum/Ariza/Graham
Anderson/Kaminsky/Hicks
Howard/Zeller/O'Bryant

Rockets
CP3/Taylor/Brown
Harden/Gordon/Quartermann
Melo/Tucker/Williams
Capela/Moute/Oliver
Nene/Hartenstein/Black

Ntilikina/Session/Baker
Hardaway/Lamb/Randle
MKG/Thomas/Dotson
Williams/O'Quinn/Kuzminkas
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Noah

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1.) 06 Aug 2017 23:07:06
Probably best 3 team trade I've seen for Melo. Hornets lose some defense but add a bunch of shooters and can try and rekindle the Orlando Howard when he was at his best with a bunch of shooters (including Anderson) around him.


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2017 21:37:45
Wolves get Anderson Okafor 46th 50th
Sixers get Melo Aldrich 6th 33rd 35th
Knicks get Rubio Augustin Covington Bayless Biyombo
Magic get Noah Thomas 3rd


Simmons/D.Smith-6th/McConnell
Lowry/Cabarret/Hart-35th
Melo/Kurucs-33rd/Blossomgame-39th
Saric/Bell-36/Long
Embiid/Holmes/Aldrich

Dunn/D.Smith/Jones
Lavine/Anderson/Iwundu-46th
Wiggens/Muhammed/Bacon-50th
Dieng/Payne/Bjelica
Towns/Okafor/Hill

Rubio/Augustin/Ntilikina-8th
Lee/Bayless/Randle
Covington/Kuzminkas/Dotson-44th
Biyombo/O'Quinn/Bolden-58
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

Ball/Payton/Watson
Fournier/Meeks/Hunt
Ross/Hezonja/Thomas
Gordon/Green/Kuzma
Vucevic/Noah/Zimmerman

shizzee

1.) 12 Jun 2017 07:47:30
If I'm Minnesota I'd want more for Rubio. I know they've been trying to trade him basically since they drafted him but he played very well to close last season and Dunn didn't look close to being ready to start for a Minnesota team that with Rubio should make playoffs next year.

Not a fan of value for 76ers either. Getting Melo would be an interesting move but don't think he has much value and I'd need more for moving down from #3 to #6 which although I think makes sense for 76ers there is a decent drop in talent pool that they should be more compensated for.

Knicks are clear winners of this trade. They somehow get rid of Noah and Melo's contract and nab a starting caliber pg in Rubio and some solid role players. Biyombo doesn't hurt as much as Noah since he is young and could be a solid contributor.

I think it makes a ton of sense for Magic to move up. This is a fairly cheap price to move up basically just taking Noah's contract and losing Biyombo. Don't think Noah's contract hurts this team much as they aren't a big FA player but #3 pick gives them opportunity to potentially add franchise changing talent which they certainly could use.


 

 

28 May 2017 20:11:26
Rockets get Melo Wade Canaan Ndour
Bulls get Gordon Lou-Will
Knicks get Beverly Ariza

No matter how many quality role players houston have, Harden could not carry the Rockets with that type of support.

Harden/Canaan/Taylor
Wade/Hart-43/Iwundu-45
Melo/Dekker/Wiltjer
Anderson/Harrell/Ndour
Capela/Nene/Onuaku

Bulls get great return for an aging SG.

Rondo/Lou-Will/Payne
Gordon/Valentine/Grant
Butler/Anunoby-16/Zipser
Portis/Mirotic/Felicio
Lopez/Lauvergne/T.Bradley-38


Noah O'Quinn Thomas Ntilikina-8th
For
Lin Lopez Harris Thornwell-58th

Beverly/Lin/Simmons-58
Lee/Thornwell-57/Randle
Ariza/Harris/Kuzminkas
Porzingis/Bolden-45/Inglis
Lopez/Hernangomez/Plumlee

Whitehead/Ntilikini/Dinwiddie
Kilpatrick/Lavert/Goodwin
Jefferson/McDaniels/Kurucs-22nd
Booker/Nicholson/Jeanne-27th
O'Quinn/Hamilton/Noah-suspended

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1.) 28 May 2017 21:03:41
Danton wants no part of coaching Melo again and Williams and Gordon are probably about as good as Wade at this point.
The 2nd trade is terrible for Brooklyn. Something like the 8 Noah and Oquinn for Lopez seems more reasonable.


2.) 29 May 2017 22:39:02
The rockets become worse because harden wade melo and anderson get torched on defense.


3.) 30 May 2017 11:55:57
I agree Houston could probably use another high caliber player along Harden but don't think Melo or Wade are the solutions and giving up those key role players for them makes Houston an even worse team. I think a good, more complete offensive big man would be the ideal pairing with Harden.

I like the idea of Nets getting the 8th pick and since they are so bad with such a poor future outlook although the value of the trade probably isn't in their favor I'd probably still do it since the #8 is involved and Lin and Lopez aren't taking Nets anywhere.

For Knicks first trade is a steal and second one is solid. I believe they would still have cap space to make some moves in FA.


 

 

23 May 2017 22:54:28
Knicks want FRANK NTILIKINA or MALIK MONK and should not trade down.

Lakers get Noah Ellington
McRoberts Clear 16 mil in payroll, LA add another defensive big

Knicks get Deng Bosh-
collects ins. money if he doesn't retire which better than paying Noah

Heat get Mosgov Thomas NY 2nd LA 2018 2nd
No center behind Whiteside

Rondo/Ntilikina-8th/K.Simmons-58th
Lee/Thornwell-45th/Randle
Deng/Kuzminkas/Early
Melo/O'Quinn/Bosh
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

shizzee

1.) 24 May 2017 01:08:08
Knicks and Heat both turn that down. The Knicks can't medically waive Bosh and add a ton of salary just for Deng and the Heat can probably medically waive Bosh and he would come off the cap.


 

 

23 Apr 2017 00:43:30
Heat keep Winslow

Heat get Noah Melo 58th
Knicks get McRoberts Ellington Bosh-Waive all 3 and 16th

Dragic/Johnson/McCruder
Waiters/Richardson/Bluiett-58th
Winslow/Thomas/Johnson
Melo/Reed/Haslem
Whiteside/Noah/White

Knicks sign
CP3/Curry Durant Griffin 4yr 120mil 1st tier
Lowry Hayward Milsap 4yr 100mil
2nd tier
G.Hill Porter Ibaka 4yr 80mil
3rd Tier

Either should calm Porzingis demand for a trade and bring NY back in playoffs

Tier/Monk-7th/Morris-44th
Lee/Thornwell-16th/Randle
Tier/Kuzminskas/Early
Tier/O'Quinn/Inglis
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

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11 Apr 2017 22:47:27
Hawks get Melo
Pistons get Bazemore
Knicks Get Harris Dunleavy

Schroder/Delaney/F.Mason-60
Sefolosha/Hardaway/Hart-48th
Melo/Prince/Bembry
Milsap/Bell-31st/Kelly
Howard/Patton-18/Muscala

Jackson/Ish/Morris
KCP/Bazemore/Ferguson-14
Johnson/Gbinje/Hillard
Leuer/Morris/Ellenson
Drummond/Baynes/Marjanovic

Hill/Fox-6/Randle
Lee/Thornwell-47/Sumner-58
Harris/Thomas/Kuzminskas
Porzingis/O'Quinn/Inglis
Hernangomez/Noah/Plumlee

shizzee

1.) 12 Apr 2017 04:54:51
It would be fun to see Melo in a Pistons uniform and think about what could have been if they drafted him instead of Millic. That was back when Pistons were good with Rip, Chauncey, Wallaces and Prince. Would have likely changed Melo's career completely and minimally he'd probably have a ring by now.

However, due to his no trade clause Melo is much more likely to go to ATL than Detroit. I think he'd be an interesting piece in ATL with Millsap and Howard 3 veteran guys looking for rings and Schroeder as a youngish pg to round out a solid core.

I think Knicks would be ecstatic to Harris back in return for Melo since not only addition by subtraction but they add a young versatile forward who could pickup some of the scoring you lose with Melo. Not sure how keen Detroit would be to participate in this trade however. Harris to Bazemore seems like a lateral move to me so I think they'd need a little more compensation to convince them to shake up the chemistry bringing in a new guy.


2.) 12 Apr 2017 15:01:57
Can't imagine why Hawks would give up a decent player like Bazemore and get an overpaid ISO player in Anthony -- plus be saddled with his ridiculous contract AND trade kicker.


 

 

 

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17 Aug 2017 12:33:16
Asik Hill Moore for Thomas Noah Lee.

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17 Aug 2017 01:27:39
LeBron for 1 yr is better Porzingis for 10 more. CP3 Wade will find their way.

CP3/ Session/ Baker
Wade/ Dotson/ Randle
Melo/ Kuzminkas/ Beasley
LeBron/ Beasley/ Kornet
O'Quinn/ Bosh/ Plumlee

😀.

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17 Aug 2017 01:19:47
Hmm different.

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16 Aug 2017 19:41:59
I think it's not realistic, but hey I love it.

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16 Aug 2017 19:01:25
Lee and thomas represent back up position of needs vs pf/ c

Lee is just better all around player than Dieng.

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