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19 May 2017 07:22:21
Eric Bledose is a very solid pg signed reasonably for 2 more years that can play very good defense and be a second scoring option on a playoff team. Phx should shop him for younger talent after he is coming off a good, healthy season (he missed only one game before being benched at end of season to allow Suns to tank)

Which of these Eric Bledsoe trades do you think is most reasonable?

1. Bledsoe + #32 to Bulls for #16
Bledsoe would give Bulls a starting caliber pg on a reasonable contract to pair with Butler and create a defensive duo. Bulls could still sign someone like Galo to be a stretch 4. Phx add a younger piece with pick

2. Bledsoe + Warren for Dallas #9
Dallas makes a move that puts them in playoff contention with strong starting pg as well as a young wing in Warren who can score off the bench. Phx get another lotto pick. Can get Tatum and Smith/ Ntilikina to add to young core

3. Bledsoe + #32 to Denver for #13 pick
A lot of potential moves Nuggets could make for Bledsoe but he'd give them a true starting caliber pg that would be deadly combo with Jokic that could push them into playoffs. Phx get another lotto pick to add young talent that will help in the future.

4. Bledsoe to Detroit for #12, Jackson
Jackson looked bad returning from injury and is due a lot of money. They upgrade at pg while saving money with Bledsoe. Phx takes Jacksons bad deal and gets a lotto pick too. Phx would probably try to make a move for Stanley Johnson too who seems under-utilized.

5. Bledose to Indy for #18 pick
indy already has Teague but he would cost double Bledsoe's salary to resign. The money saved could be used to bring in more help via FA and help Pacers build a more formidable team to make a last stand to keep George.

jaw457

1.) 19 May 2017 10:07:21
I think the Denver deal is the best here and could potentially get them into the playoffs while giving the suns a decent pick in return.


2.) 19 May 2017 14:39:08
OK. how about :
Bledsoe, #32 pick this year. and Miami's 2018 1st. to Orlando for #6 and some filler.


3.) 19 May 2017 19:48:23
I like the Denver move. It works for both sides, and the value both get are great. I don't know if 16 or 18 are good enough picks for me to move Bledsoe straight up. he's not perfect, but I'm not sure if you're getting someone better than him there, even in this draft.

If I'm Dallas, I have to start thinking about getting some youth in there. Dirk only has a year or two left, and while I'm all about giving him a last hurrah, you also have to think about the future when you can. They need to bring in a kid to build their next generation. The Detroit trade is interesting, as they have plenty of cap space to bring Jackson in to just sit the bench if they wanted.

#12 is a very enticing return for that, but I don't do it just because of how bad he seems to be for the culture of his teams. I don't want a guy like that infecting my young kids.


 

 

05 Apr 2017 05:42:45
Utah Jazz are good but not great. I think they should be aggressive this offseason to first off ensure they keep Hayward and to make them a true contender. They have best defensive center, an all-star in Hayward and solid role players around them.

I think they should try to bring back Millsap who would give them another all-star and his game would compliment Gobert well. To do this they'd have to decline Diaw's option, then:

Jazz get: Levert, Hollis-Jefferson

Nets get: Favors, Burks, Johnson, Jazz 1st (25), Warriors 1st (via Jazz, 30th)

Probably an overpay for Jazz (maybe Nets throw in Kilpatrick too) but they get two young versatile players on cheap contracts and clear the cap space to add Millsap. They'd still have cap space to sign Hill and then can use Haywards bird rights to resign him.

Things would get quite expensive tho since I think Hood is due an extension next summer. Maybe go after Gallinari instead who will be a bit cheaper.

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21 Feb 2017 02:42:11
Pacers need to take steps to improve their team or fear not being able to resign George. They need to prove to him they are serious about winning.

Hawks get: Thaddeus Young, Monta Ellis, Jefferson, Stuckey and Indy 2017 1st rounder

Pacers get: Millsap, Splitter, Sefolosha and THJ

Hawks get a solid return for Millsap that keeps them competitive in short term but gives them more certainty for the long term without fear of losing him in FA.

Pacers get an all-star to add to George, Turner and Teague while also adding some solid bench pieces and clearing up cap space to resign both Teague and Millsap in offseason without cutting into luxury (although they most likely would in future if resigned George) .

With their Bird rights Pacers would be the favorites to sign both Teague and Millsap. Only the Bulls, 76ers, Kings, Nets and Nuggets have enough cap space to offer Millsap the max and Pacers would clearly be the best location from a fit and basketball perspective for Millsap.

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15 Jan 2017 15:44:52
Knicks finally deal Melo:

Clippers get : Melo, Baker, Ndour
Knicks get: Rivers, Crawford, Brice Johnson, Clippers 2017 first unprotected

I don't think I need to explain why Clippers do it. I think Knicks and Melo are finally realizing it won't work out together and its best both go separate ways. I think this is best they can hope to get since I don't see Cavs shaking up things this late and Love is a better fit not being as ball dominate and providing passing and rebounding at a high level.

I also think Melo would have a cancerous effect on a young Lakers team. Clippers make a ton of sense but I don't think they'd want to deal their big 3 to make it happen so they have limited assets. Clippers definitely are big winners of this trade but I think Knicks need to begin the Porzingis chapter and should take whatever they can get for Melo.

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1.) 15 Jan 2017 16:38:31
This is a joke, not even a thought given by the knicks.


2.) 15 Jan 2017 16:47:56
You cannot construct a trade in which a team taking Anthony wins the deal.


3.) 15 Jan 2017 17:13:18
I think Toronto owns the Clippers pick.

i'm not sure NY would get a better offer and they should trade melo, but i don't think they're going to give him for free


4.) 15 Jan 2017 18:37:42
Toronto has the Clippers pick. I know that because we (the Bucks) traded it for Grevies Vasquez :(((((


5.) 15 Jan 2017 19:21:58
Melo has not realized it's not working, he just yesterday reiterated that he won't waive his no trade clause.

I wish he would, but it's unfortunately not going to happen.


6.) 15 Jan 2017 19:21:58
Melo has not realized it's not working, he just yesterday reiterated that he won't waive his no trade clause.

I wish he would, but it's unfortunately not going to happen.


7.) 16 Jan 2017 01:30:50
Today he said he would discuss trades


 

 

08 Jan 2017 00:36:29
Cavs get a backup pg and center

Jazz get: McRae, '19 Twolves 2nd
Cavs get: Shelvin Mack or Raul Neto

Cavs get: Ajinca, Pondexter
Pelicans get: Shumpert, Anderson

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1.) 08 Jan 2017 07:05:36
I can see the Utah trade happening but I'm not sure about the Pelicans just because I don't know if Ajinca fits the Cavs style. Pondexter is okay but honestly the Cavs have enough shooters now. Giving up Shumpert for this value just doesn't seem enough even though it isn't bad


 

 

 

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24 Apr 2017 15:54:46
What reason is there to believe that George would stay in Indy? He has clearly stated that he'd stay if the can become a contender (they clearly aren't) and that he would be interested in playing for the Lakers (they have cap space, need for star power and a new regime in Magic that didn't draft the young guys there so doesn't have a strong attachment to developing them) .

All-nba voting will be tight for George but I think he gets traded regardless (potential extension can be leveraged to increase Pacers return) .

The interesting wrinkle is that Larry Bird is current President of Pacers and will likely have the option of dealing George to his old team Celtics or his arch-nemesis Magic who now heads Lakers. Celtics have the assets but are always gun-shy and are probably more so with George's public interest in Lakers (a potential early playoff exit could lead them to finally pull trigger) . I ultimately think Magic will give Bird an offer he cannot refuse as I believe he will want to put his stamp on the franchise and be the one who brings them back to prominence. I don't think Buss would shake up the front office the way she did if they were just going to develop the young guys. She brought in Magic to get a familiar face in there and bring lakers back to the golden days. I think that starts with George and with him aboard others will come flocking. In 2018 offseason they could potentially add talents like Westbrook, Cousins or more realistic ones like Melo and Brook Lopez.

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1.) 25 Apr 2017 00:49:54
Honestly, I doubt he stays, but they'll have a ton of cap space the year he hits the open market and Turner could be a beast in a few years.

The Lakers have a good a chance as any to land him and a reason to think he would stay, but I could definitely see a bidding war now that the number of stars who might be shopped is dwindling.


2.) 25 Apr 2017 08:26:26
Personally I think he should go Boston for a package centered around Brooklyns no 1 pick and crowder.


3.) 25 Apr 2017 10:19:37
With him publicly saying that he wants to play for Lakers would Celtics really be willing to give up that much without a guarantee he'll resign there? (I could see Celtics giving a similar maybe even slightly stronger offer for Butler since he is signed at least an additional year but he is becoming less likely to be moved with Chicago's performance in playoffs. )

Lakers could also give an arguably better package. I guess it hinges on them keeping their pick which is about a 50/ 50 toss up at this point. It will probably be the deciding factor of where he goes.

Which would you prefer?

#1 and Crowder
or
#3 and Ingram/ Russell

Crowder will be only 27 this summer and is signed cheaply until 2020 and a very solid starter and most agree Fultz is clearly best prospect.

I think Lakers would probably prefer to keep Russell over Ingram (although with they have a potential shot at getting Westbrook and with Clarkson as a filler maybe they move Russell) . Ingram/ Russell I think present significantly more upside than Crowder and Pacers would be guaranteed to retain them longer (assuming they match all offers in RFA) . #3 pick I think would be Ball who I think based upon his skill set would work well along two high level players although Jackson with his flexibility could easily work too. A potential trio of Ball, Ingram and Turner I think would set Pacers up for a promising future that would allow them to move on from George.


4.) 25 Apr 2017 13:03:26
I understand that point of view for the pacers management to go no # 3 + Ingram

But I don't understand PGs desire to play at the lakers they have no star players, Russell and randle are still a few years away! No depth, he'll have no succes unless they are banking on signing a big free agent which they haven't since shaq in 96!

Bot Boston they have depth, a go to scorer in Thomas! He won't have to shoulder the offence so he can focus on being a lockdown defender again and will be competing for championships in the next few years!


5.) 25 Apr 2017 15:40:09
I think PG13 just want a 200M contract

We should try to sign G Hayward in free agency and we should trade him for a Nets pick or the LA pick+ Ingram, if we can't land a good free agent.


6.) 26 Apr 2017 02:01:33
I don't think the final offers will end up being a 3rd and Ingram or Crowder and the 1st. I also think other teams will be going after George. Plenty of the low level playoff teams and young teams about to compete could give solid offers. If any of the playoff teams in the East add George, they probably end up being the 2nd best team in the East and that would probably be enough to keep George around.


 

 

09 Apr 2017 03:49:49
What do y'all make of some reports saying that Ben Simmons has grown 2 inches since the draft?

I don't think its unheard of since he is only what 19-20 and many guys have grown since being drafted (Paul George, Kevin Durant and Giannis come to mind) .

My only concern is how growing may influence his physical health (maybe it is what contributed to his foot injury) . Regardless 76ers will be a fun team to watch. Simmons and Embiid can either break the entire league with their skills at heights of (or close to) 7ft or they themselves can stay broken and never get past their injury woes that has plagued the majority of their careers thus far.

jaw457

1.) 09 Apr 2017 18:08:36
76ers just have to put the right pieces and veterans around them now.


 

 

12 Mar 2017 21:47:24
2018 will be a huge offseason for the Lakers with big stars available and some (George and Westbrook) already expressing interest in coming to LA.

2018-19 projected salary cap is 103M and as is Lakers have 62.5M committed to 7 guys and Randle is a restricted FA although can use Bird Rights to sign him over the cap.

Lakers over the next year should aim to clear their 3 largest contracts (Clarkson, Mozgov and Deng) which will enable them to have best case scenario ~80M of cap space or about 78% of their cap space (max contracts vary 25-35% depending on years of experience) .

Lakers should also explore trading for guys they are likely to sign. For the right price it may be worth giving up some assets for a guy they could get for "free" in FA due to gaining their bird rights.

For example Lakers currently have only about 40M of cap space. If they dealt Russell and a 1st for George then they'd have his bird rights. With those they could use their 40M of cap space to offer Westbrook the max and then use George's Bird Rights to sign him to the max even when they don't have cap space.

There are also a few of good centers that'll be free agents who Lakers could target to fill out their "big 3": Cousins (probably too expensive), Brook Lopez or Derrick Favors. The they'd still have their young assets who they'd have no issue resigning due to their Bird rights.

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1.) 16 Mar 2017 17:46:58
Packaging a pick, Clarkson and one of the bad contracts for Lopez would be a solid deal that may make sense for both teams. I think the Pacers would need a pretty big offer to move George. They'll probably do everything they can to keep him. Even with Magic, I feel like the Lakers staff has a lot to prove before freeagents will be interested again.


 

 

21 Feb 2017 01:34:55
NBA Free Agency 2017

This summer's free agency shouldn't be nearly as interesting as last years without as big of a salary cap jump. 10 teams have essentially no cap space or cap space equal to MLE and BAE and that is assuming every team let all their FA walk.

Most major FA are expected to resign with their current teams although how Clippers offseason goes could dictate how the rest of the FA goes.

Clippers could potentially lose 4 starters this offseason and with the team underperforming last few years maybe Paul leaves for New York, a younger team like Utah (who could with some tweaking still sign Hayward ), the Pelicans who now boast best big man duo in the league.

The Bulls assuming they let all their FA go (including Wade) they'd have 54.1 Mill enough to offer nearly two max contracts (25.8M for under 7years exp and 30.1M for 7-10years exp, 36.1M for 10+ years exp) . The Nuggets with 40.1M and Celtics with 32.8M are other good teams with significant cap space that won't likely spend it on their own FA.

Spurs could get over 40M cap space as well if they let their FA go including Gasol and got rid of Parker's contract (only a year left so could pay a bad team near floor to take it on) .

Pacers are another team with a very good wing and big man combo (george and Turner) that could do some wiggling to free up enough cap space to go after a max player (and probably should with George not willing to resign in Indy unless they get better) .

jaw457

1.) 21 Feb 2017 04:51:41
I'd like to see the Clippers break up.


 

 

20 Feb 2017 20:39:37
Ironic that the first time the new CBA's designated player exception comes into play it does exactly what it was designed to avoid and made a team get rid of their "homegrown" superstar at a discount. I guess the silver lining is that it made it happen earlier and not in FA where they lost him for absolutely nothing.

Players likely to qualify are Curry, Jordan, Westbrook and in year after George, Leonard, Thompson and others.

It will be interesting to see how this exception plays out in the future and how teams and players will use it to their advantage.

I think Cousins was a unique situation where the team realized too late they didn't actually want to pay him all that money. It should make for an interesting situation for Warriors in future.

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23 May 2017 02:12:59
Mills could cover point guards defensively (he is a bit small to cover sg anyway) and Jackson would probably be better suited for sg with Simmons covering sf defensively but playing the role of a traditional point guard on offense.

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23 May 2017 01:06:46
Don't see Pelicans trading AD especially with Cousins being a FA after next season. If they trade AD, Cousins would just be with a bunch of young guys like he was in Sacramento and I think he'd get frustrated and probably leave in FA.

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23 May 2017 01:05:19
Even if Lakers don't get Fox the Suns should explore dealing Bledsoe and Nuggets would be a solid destination and they have plenty of interesting assets. Suns should also consider taking Fox at #4 since they already have a solid sf in Warren and its a guard driven league.

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23 May 2017 01:01:21
Its more likely Hayward just signs with Indy (he is from Indy and played college ball there) . Jazz would have to give up much more to get George. They have some solid young pieces like Hood, Lyles in addition to Exum but ultimately Jazz can't compete with what Celtics or Lakers could offer.

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21 May 2017 22:21:36
If I'm Boston I wouldn't even give up Melo for Crowder straight up (in large part due to the 20+ mill salary difference which could basically be Hayward) . Melo is a below average defender and not half the athlete Lebron is. Nobody in the league can really defend Lebron by themselves it takes an entire team (force him to shoot from the outside and get no easy buckets inside) .

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