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26 Jul 2017 00:43:06
Cavs/Suns

Suns get: Irving
Cavs get: Bledsoe, Chriss, Heat #1 2018(suns own this pick with 1-7 protection).

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20 Jul 2017 16:57:36
Looks like the Cavs are signing D.Rose. I think this is a great fit. Clevelands " secondary scorers" are all jump shooters. Love, JR Smith, Korver, etc. Other then Lebron and Kyrie, nobody can really take it to the hoop and finish. Rose does that. He gets 18ppg not by shooting, but taking his man to the hooop and a very good midrange game. I think the following lineup is better then a year ago.
Pg: Rose
Sg: Irving
Sf: Lebron
Pf: Love
C: Thompson
Have JR Smith, Korver as your shooters to sub in as needed.
Not a Cavs fan by any means, but i think its a good pick up.

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1.) 20 Jul 2017 17:21:59
I agree that it's a good pickup. However, I see Rose coming off the bench to provide scoring. I think starting JR with Kyrie and LeBron is still the best lineup with his shooting. Rose will play 20-24 minutes a game giving LeBron and Kyrie ball handling rest.


2.) 20 Jul 2017 17:22:07
I like the move if it happens. I think you have him coming off the bench though and play him while Lebron and Kyrie rest. That will let him have the ball in his hands more where he's at his best offensively. The Cavs can limit his minutes which will probably be good for his knees and let them rest Lebron more during the season. I'm curious as to what this means for Felder. I don't see them keeping 4 point guards on the roster.


3.) 20 Jul 2017 17:40:33
Agreed throughout, he has to be coming off the bench. A guard combo of Rose and Irving is flat out horrible on defense. AS a knicks fan, I can attest to Rose having ridiculously padded stats. When you actually look at his impact in recent years, he is a very negative player. He doesn't pass well for a pg, and whatever scoring he does bring to the table, his lack of defense negates it.

It isn't a big needle mover. Absolutely doesn't make much of an impact related to catching the warriors.


4.) 20 Jul 2017 19:26:48
Lools like the Lakers are getting in on the D. Rose bidding.


5.) 20 Jul 2017 19:38:20
Its a solid low risk, moderate upside move. I agree with others that Rose is much better suited coming off the bench and being someone who can create and run the offense when Lebron and Kyrie aren't in the game. I think it will be rare for Kyrie and Rose to share the backcourt together since its awful defensively and you lose some spacing.

I don't think this move will have a big impact on Cavs outcome. Their offseason has been very underwhelming as they were clearly inferior to Warriors and made no major changes as they watched the Warriors make more moves than them and Celtics add a superstar. I always thought them getting Butler or George was a long shot but I'm surprised they didn't shake things up since we already know this roster can't compete with the Warriors and they need to do something to convince Lebron to stick around. I guess they still can make some moves during the season.


6.) 21 Jul 2017 00:26:59
If they sign rose then honestly they are only one big trade to being close to the level of the warriors. Honestly Warriors are on a level all their own and I don't see any available players who could take us past the Warriors status but close to it. Honestly I don't believe they will trade Kevin now unless a rare opportunity presents itself. I do believe this would give the Cavs something to think about as far as starting center or the 5th player next year if those four are playing.

I do believe they will attempt to start both Irving and Rose sometime just to check it out and with that being the case TT most likely won't be in the game because space will be needed so Frye becomes more valuable with this move. I believe they should if they already haven't looked at a trade involving, TT, Shumpert, and even possibly Felder or Osman or both depending on the deal, for a All star caliber player like Melo, Drummond, Aldridge, or whoever else that fits the mold.


 

 

12 Jul 2017 15:50:58
76ers/Bulls

Sixers get:Portis
Bulls get:Okafor,Stauskas,2nd rd pk

Bulls get hometown kid in Okafor. Maybe backing up Lopez on a rebuilding team would allow for more minutes then in philly. Bulls already have Mirotic and Markkenan at the pf, portis will be better off in pbilly switching of with Saric as the pf. Stauskas could add some much needed 3pt shooting to the bulls depleted backcourt. Both stauskas,24, and Okafor,21, are still young enough to develop with added pt.

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1.) 12 Jul 2017 17:30:29
Mirotic hasn't re-signed.


2.) 12 Jul 2017 18:15:59
Portis is considered far better than okafor. And just because stauskas shoots a lot of threes, doesn't mean he has value. Dude is a below average 3 pt shooter. doesn't seem at all worthwhile for the bulls. Especially given portis is only 22 and shows such promise.

A rebuilding team doesn't give away an A prospect for a B- and a D prospect. Best bet for them is to hold onto their best prospects, aka, portis.


 

 

08 Jul 2017 14:17:34
76ers/Hawks

Sixers get:least favorable of Twolves/Clippers protected 2018 1st via Hawks

Hawks get: Okafor, Stauskas.

Okafor is 21 and stauskas is 23. Both young guys in positions of need for Atlanta. With Howard gone, the only center is plumlee. With THJ signing a ridiculous contract with NY, a sg is also needed. Both in last guranteed year of contracts. Okafor makes 4.8 and stauskas 3.7. Worth a one year trial for hawks where they both could see considerable increase in playing time and production. Sixers get a late protected 1st in return.

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1.) 08 Jul 2017 14:51:37
I think the sixers see higher value in the 2 players and won't accept. Stauskas is a good 2nd/ 3rd sg and Okafor gets some time to develop behind Embiid and Holmes. Both could get really good bench players. Sixers might accept it if you take out stauskas.


 

 

05 Jul 2017 01:55:39
76ers/Celtics
Congrats to Celtics on signing Hayward. It does come with some casualties though in order to clear the approx 30mill in cap space....
As per ESPN Celts must
1. Let Olynyk go as ufa
2. Not resign Jerebeko, Green, Young
3. Waive or trade Mickey and Jackson
4. Trade either Smart, Rozier, or Crowder.

Thats a lot of bench guys that have to be let go(actually only Olynyk was a key guy). And I think Crowder is the odd man out with Hayward, Tatum, and Brown all key wing contributors.
So heres the trade

Sixers get: Crowder
Celtics get: 2 most favorable 2nd rd picks in the sixers vault, one in 2018, one in 2019.

I believe picks are all the Celtics can recieve on order to cut the needed salary.
Crowder adds depth to the wing and toughness to the young sixers.

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1.) 05 Jul 2017 20:58:23
With Bradley, Smart and IT all due extensions next offseason I think its more likely Smart or Bradley get dealt than Crowder who is still on one of the biggest bargain contracts in the league. Bradley is the better fit but he'll likely command over 20 mill per year in unrestricted FA so there is risk of him not coming back and Celtics having to go deep into luxury. Although the wing is crowded I think they can find the minutes for Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Crowder between the 2, 3 and 4 spots.

I think Crowder as a gritty, versatile and very cheap starting caliber player would be worth more than 2 2nd rounders. I think Celtics will have plenty of suitors since every team could use a guy like Crowder and ultimately will get better offers. If I was 76ers I'd be trying to snag Bradley who would be a great fit as a 3 and D guard who they could afford to pay with guys like Reddick coming off the books after next year.


2.) 05 Jul 2017 21:07:52
Crowder will go in a deal with a draft choice for a quality big. If you believe a couple of throwaway 2nd-rounders will get him to Philly, you're quite mistaken.
Let's talk Holmes.


3.) 06 Jul 2017 01:55:26
I don't think they want to let AB go. They'll make a deal for a big C and if they don't get to the finals then I think they'll let IT walk and invest in Bradley and get a PG. Gasol is the name coming up for the C but to be honest he's not a big rebounder, he'll be a body in the paint though. If Horford will commit to the 5 then Boston, Cavs, and Knicks should talk and Cavs get Melo, Boston gets Love, and Knicks get Crowder with Cavs and Boston giving a pick to the Knicks.


4.) 06 Jul 2017 04:51:03
Your crazy if you think the Celtics can only get 2 second round picks for Crowder.


5.) 06 Jul 2017 05:40:42
Billj, the Cavs don't need the Celtics to get Melo and why would the Cavs give up Love and a pick for Melo. Love has more value than Melo.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2017 01:00:57
Just caught the final details on the sixers/celtics trade. realized that if the lakers pick is #1, or #6-30, sixers keep it. What i didn't know was that the 2019 kings pick has some protection as well. If the pick is the first overall pick, sixers keep it and biston gets the sixers 2019 pick wherever it falls. Trade looks even better for the sixers. But I still think it good for both teams.

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1.) 20 Jun 2017 16:38:15
I don't think its that great of a trade for the Celtics. Just look back at other trades where teams trade the number 1 pick for future picks. The Magic got the #3 pick that year as well as 3 other future picks. The Celtics are getting the #3 pick this year and a pick in the future that can't be #1. not good value in my eyes. Definitely would have preferred having Fultz on our team rather then playing him 4 times a year for the next 10+ years.


2.) 20 Jun 2017 16:38:15
I don't think its that great of a trade for the Celtics. Just look back at other trades where teams trade the number 1 pick for future picks. The Magic got the #3 pick that year as well as 3 other future picks. The Celtics are getting the #3 pick this year and a pick in the future that can't be #1. not good value in my eyes. Definitely would have preferred having Fultz on our team rather then playing him 4 times a year for the next 10+ years.


 

 

06 Jun 2017 22:44:46
1. 76ers/Pistons

Sixers get:Stanley Johnson
Pistons get: Okafor, Anderson, #50

Two very young players where a change of scenery may help both. Plus detroit could use some interior scoring off the bench. Philly could use some perimeter defense off the bench.

2. 76ers/Kings

Sixers get:#5 pick, Labissiere
Kings get: #3, #39

Kings secure there man in Fox at #3. Get #39 as well. Sixers get best fit in Monk at #5, get Labissiere to pair with Saric at pf.

3. Take pg Frank Jackson at #36, pg Frank Mason at #46.

4. Sign Redick, 2yrs $39 mill.
5. Sign Patterson, 2yrs $18 mill.
6. Bring over wing Furkan Korkmaz
7. Cut dead weight Henderson,Long, Rodriguez,splitter,stauskas.

C: Embiid,Holmes,Labissiere
Pf:Labissiere,Saric,Patterson
Sf:Covington,Johnson,Luwawa-cab
Sg:Redick,Monk,Bayless,Korkmaz
Pg:Simmons,McConnell,Jackson/Mason

Still keep lakers unprotected #1 in 2018 and Kings unprotected #1 in 2019. Vet presence of Redick and Patterson in the rotation should help.
Am I close on most of this? Far off on some??

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28 Apr 2017 18:23:50
76ers/knicks

Sixers get: Melo
Knicks get: Okafor.

Straight up deal. Sixers are only one of a handful of teams that can absorb melos 55 million over the next 2 years. Knicks get a 21 year old center who can score and fits nicely into the triangle offense. Knicks also free up a ton of money to improve team in other areas of need. Melo is 1 hour from where he grew up and not far from NY. Leaves with a ring in 2019.

Pg: Simmons
Sg: Monk
Sf: Covington
Pf: Melo
C: Embiid

Jvoug1

1.) 29 Apr 2017 15:31:35
Here's the issue with this. Okafor is awful. Zero defense. Thef be likely 4th on the depth chart. And really just a bad player. Knicks want, and will get, some value for melo. This certainly isn't that value.


2.) 29 Apr 2017 15:49:00
Hamburger. I see your point. I guess i'm not as down on Okafor (certainly don't view him as a potential star any more, but a kid with skills none the less) as some are. And i have read that Jackson likes Okafor to a degree. Okafor is just 21. Should be a junior in college. I think he still has some upside. But i also can see knicks fans wanting more value for melo. You want 3 or 4 of your second rounders back over the next 5 years?


3.) 01 May 2017 22:03:57
lol. hell get traded to the clippers, celts or cavs. depending on playoffs.

my guess is s&t for griffen. just seems right.


 

 

12 Apr 2017 22:52:54
76ers/Blazers

Portland is on the books for over 137 million in guranteed salary next year. Over 12 million more then the second highest paid team. Absoluyely zero flexibility with all that $$ tied up. Sixers have a better thrn 50% chance to land the Makers pick at either 4 or 5. I suggest a trade that may help both teams.

Sixers get:McCollum
Blazers get: top 5 pick, stauskas.

Sixers get combo guard that would pair up next to Simmons nicely. McCollum is a top scorer and a 42% 3pt shooter. Exactly what philly needs. Blazers get a top pick in a loaded draft. Can draft a stud wing and save 20 million. I think there could be other small parts to sweeten the deal for portland, but I think shedding McCollums 24 million salary, at a position they are stacked at, could workin rheir favor. A Tatum or Issac next to Lilliard and Nurkic could be nice.

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1.) 14 Apr 2017 08:38:05
Not awful for Portland but I think dealing McCollum for a rookie would set them back when they have good momentum after Nurkic trade and are already relatively young. If they are that afraid of luxury tax I think they could easily use some of their 3 first rounders (they have #15, #19 and #25) in this draft to get a bad team like Nets or Kings to take on some of their bad contracts.

Not sure how reasonable it is but I really liked a trade I saw someone post on this website where Portland gave up McCollum, Crabbe, Leonard and their 3 first rounders to the Bulls for Butler. This trade would get Portland out of the luxury and give them one of best backcourts in the league with Lillard and Butler who's defensive ability would add another dimension to that team.

Bulls would benefit from getting McCollum who is young enough to build around, has the skills to play pg and would likely improve as a #1 option. They'd also get 3 first rounders to add to their own (likely package some of them to move up) and although Crabbe and Leonard have bad contracts both are relatively young and would likely earn solid minutes on that Bulls team.

McCollum would be a perfect fit for 76ers as a proven scoring threat that is locked up long term but still young enough to grow with that team. I think he is the type of player they'd hope Monk would develop into and likely who they'd take if they got Lakers pick.


 

 

17 Mar 2017 19:43:27
76er moves

1. Sign Blake Griffin to max deal. Griffin raves about the sixers energy and never give up play. Has great respect for brett brown. Him and Embiid would be a great duo.
2. Sign JJ Redick to 2 year, 45 million deal. I think Gtiffin and redick are both leaving the clips, bring them both to philly. Redick serves an immediate need as a shooter and respected vet. He is also an underrated defender.
3. Draft Malik Monk. Monk should be available if the sixers pick in the 4-6 range. Kids only 19, a year or two learning from redick could do wonders.
4. Let Korkmaz develop one more year on europe. he's only 19.
5. Let go stauskas, rodriguez, henderson, long.

There has to he a mix of vets and kids on a roster. The $$ it will take to sign reddick and griffin will not effect the ability to sign Embiid, Simmons, or Saric to future deals. And we still have lakers unprotected #1 next year and kings unprotected #1 the following year.

Pg:Simmons,Bayless,McConnell
Sg:Redick,Monk,Luwawa-Cabarrot
Sf:Covington,Saric,Anderson
Pf:Griffin,Saric,Holmes
C: Embiid,Okafor,Splitter

This roster has mamy different possibilities and seems to be able to hold up if inkjuries occurr to any position.

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1.) 17 Mar 2017 20:58:34
With the one remaining roster spot, possibly sixers are able to trade a couple eraly seconds for a late first to a salary cap strapped team. Maybe to portland for the #27 pick. Hopefully pick up a potential decent player that falls on draft night.


2.) 18 Mar 2017 16:12:00
Griffin is probably not leaving, especially to go to the lowly 76ers. Redick is most likely not leaving either unless another team were to offer substantially more money than the Clippers, and I still don’t think he would go to the 76ers either.


3.) 19 Mar 2017 04:48:41
Rumor has it Paul and Griffin deals are already set they just have to wait until this offseason to sign them however I'd like to see things shake up and don't think the Clippers team the way its currently built will ever achieve anything significant.

76ers are certainly an exciting team and if they got someone the caliber of Griffin would be a playoff team and with their youth and the "unknown" factor who knows how their season would end up. Not certain Griffin is the best fit but he isn't necessarily a bad one either. However, with the injuries that have plagued Embiid and Simmons being a complete unknown at this point I don't see Philly as a realistic spot for a player of Griffin's caliber to go unless Philly moves some of its future picks to add some more win-now type talent. "Trust the process" isn't the motto of a win-now team so culture needs to change before they can attract top talent.

I think Sixers could potentially get Reddick due to how much cap space they have but I think I much rather give Monk the minutes, reps and shots in the NBA and bring in a veteran past his useful life that would be cheaper and not require as much minutes to mentor him.


4.) 19 Mar 2017 19:41:32
Yo tombrady: the "lowly" sixers just kicked the boyz in green ass's back to beantown. Oh wait, sixers are playing for nothing and boston trying to be the top seed in the east? I know, I know. no IT today. But what about all those allstar guards douchebag danny has drafted. Brown, Smart, bradely, rozier. Thought they might pick up the slack a bit. Oh yeah, sixers without their two best players, Embiid and Simmons.


5.) 20 Mar 2017 16:25:44
Celtics: 44-26
76ers: 26-43

Celtics also have the Nets pick which has better odds than your pick right now.

Congrats on the one win though! Would you like a ring? We have 17.


6.) 20 Mar 2017 17:04:11
Just a reply to your " lowly sixers" comment. Could have just left it alone, but you had to take that cheap dig. And i'm not comparing the history of the franchises, and bostons rebuild started with a lot more positives on their plate then the sixers. Go deflate a football.


7.) 21 Mar 2017 18:54:26
HAHAH, did you really just try, as a philadelphia fan and presumably an eagles fan, to mock the patriots? Go deflate a football? As if that's an insult. I believe the rebut is 5 super bowl championships with Brady, to zero. ever. Fly eagles. well, not really. They always suck.


8.) 22 Mar 2017 00:01:53
Actually not an ragles fan at all. Steelers since mid 70s.


9.) 22 Mar 2017 00:07:36
And i actually have a ton of respect for tom brady the quarterback and the pats organization. The greatest ever imo. Just frustrated. I just let the little" lowly sixers" jab get under my skin. But back to my original post, i think jj redick has a chance to come to philly if we overpay a bit.


 

 

 

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08 Aug 2017 17:17:46
This trade is ridiculously in favor of the lakers. Never would happen.

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08 Aug 2017 17:16:54
Philly has no reason or desire to make this deal.

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26 Jul 2017 00:51:36
Sixers say hell yes. A late first and frye for Okafor. couldn't ask for a better return.

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26 Jul 2017 00:49:54
Ridiculous return for Knicks. You have to attach a #1 to get rid of noahs deal. So melo for wiggins? c'mon now.

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26 Jul 2017 00:45:47
Suns already own Miami #1 in 2018.

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