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11 Aug 2018 15:41:08
76ers/Wizards

Sixers get: Porter
Wizards get: Covington, Bayless, Sixers 2019 #1(if goes to Bos, conveys to 2020 #1)

Why Wiz say Yes: next year Walls contract balloons to $38 mill, Beal would be at $28 mill, and Porter at $27 mill. Covington is making only $11 mill on a very team friendly contract for 3 more years. Bayless and his $9 mill expire this year. And add a #1 pick this coming draft or next.
Why Sixers say Yes: Nobody is coming to Philly as a major FA. I love the sixers, and the city, but let's face it, there's more attractive opportunities for these big time NBA stars. So using cap space on an overpaid, yet quality player like Porter makes sense. Porter is just a step down from covington on D, but a much better shooter from deep, which the sixers desperately need.
Embiid
Saric
Porter
Redick/Fultz
Simmons/Fultz

Jvoug1

1.) 11 Aug 2018 17:25:26
Convington = Porter i'm not sure sixers do this.


2.) 11 Aug 2018 19:33:29
I think Porter is definitely a step up from Covington. he's 3 years younger, shot 44% and 41% from threes the past two seasons on heavy usage, and is a similar defender ( Covington slightly better) . Plus, Porter fills a void. A excellent outside shooter. I realize the salary difference is a big negative, and the first rd pick will probably be 20-26 range, but I think its a reasonable trade.


3.) 11 Aug 2018 20:17:25
it seems decent for both sides, its honestly tough to gauge porter’s value. he is a nice 3+D but probably an overpaid 3rd guy unless he can jump to allstar level soon. how either team feels about the possibility of that improvement would decide this deal.


4.) 12 Aug 2018 00:03:39
Sixers don’t do this like Shizee said Covington = porter. Although porter most likely has slightly more on court value Covington is on a great contract so I don’t see the sixers giving up a first for a swap of the two I think the Sixers save money for next year.


5.) 12 Aug 2018 19:09:24
I’d probably just stick with Covington. I just don’t think Porter is 10 or so million better than Covinton. I don’t think if Philly could go out and get Porter without including Covinton it would make a lot of sense. The more long 3 and D wings are the perfect fit next to Embiid and Simmons and Houston proved they’re also the Warriors Kryptonite. Simmons (Fultz to a point as well) gives you the unique ability to be able to switch almost everything with no liabilities if you have the right personnel around him. The only other team that has that ability would be the Lakers.


 

 

03 Aug 2018 22:43:49
76ers/Lakers

How bad does LA want to rid themselves of Deng and is horrible contract? Could sign 2 max players if they do. LA is a star driven big market city, not a "wait for the youth to develop" type town.

Sixers get: Deng(and his 2 years and $$37million guranteed), Ingram

Lakers get: Wilson Chandler($12.5 mill expiring), Bayless($8.6 mill expiring).
Sixers can't draw star free agents, need to develop you guys and surround them with vet role players. Lakers clear an extra $26 million next year to sign 2 max players and another near max deal. Still have Ball, Hart, and Kuzma for youth.. Could work for both teams.

Jvoug1

1.) 04 Aug 2018 01:29:14
Which ingram? Not the one 1 your referring to sixer fan. Simmons suck. Embiid is 1 injury away from retirement.


2.) 04 Aug 2018 02:54:06
Maybe Kuzma but not Ingram.


3.) 04 Aug 2018 07:08:59
Maybe they wait till draft when Deng has one year left.


4.) 04 Aug 2018 15:26:47
Lakers window is closing with LBJ. He'll be 34 this year. I think waiting on Ball, Hart, Kuzma, and Ingram for another 2 years to hopefully become complete players is not in the plans, and Deng is the huge road block. And Chandler is a solid vet who can contribute right away. LBJ already opened his school, don't think he wants to " teach" kids on the court full time.


5.) 05 Aug 2018 13:15:09
Jvoug, I know how much you love the Sixers. But I don’t see us helping out the Lakers UNLESS, they give up Kuzma and maybe an unprotected 1st Rnd pick. Mainly because of the amount and length of Dieng’s contract.


6.) 05 Aug 2018 13:52:36
Sixer4Life, Deng has 2 years on his contract, this year and the following year. That's it. I think Ingram is the perfect young SF with length and tremendous offensive potential. And helping the Lakers for a couple years won't really matter, they aren't getting through Golden State anytime soon. I just feel that any big-time free agents next year still won't sign in Philly, so using the cap space on Deng, in order to get Ingram is worth it.


 

 

30 Jul 2018 01:30:53
Sixers/Twolves

Sixers get: Butler
Twolves get: Covington, Bayless, Shamet, Sixers unprotected #1 2019.

Thibs will love Covington. All NBA first team defense, plays hard, on a very team friendly contract. Shamet was a first Rd pick this year who's a decent combo guard who can flat out shoot the ball. Bayless is expiring and makes the salaries work. Plus Twolves get another #1 pick next year. Decent return for Butler who by most accounts is leaving next year anyway.
Sixers get a vet star who knows how to win, even if he's just a rental. May convince him to stay if he gels with Embiid and Simmons.

Jvoug1

1.) 30 Jul 2018 05:50:46
Forgot to add Twolves aslo get sixers 2021 #1 pick.


 

 

19 Jul 2018 02:35:38
Sixers/Wizards

Sixers get: Otto Porter
Wizards get: Wilson Chandler, Jerryd Bayless, 2 second Rd picks.

Washington has a bit of a salary problem. Porter makes $26mill, Beal makes 26mill, and after next year Wall will make 37mill. They have sf Oubre who will need a new contract soon, and drafted SF T.Brown in the first Rd this year. Get 2 expiring contracts for Porter, Chandler and Oubre can man the SF position nicely.
Porter fits Sixers perfectly. Shoots 44% from 3's, 43% the year before. His salary is huge the next 3 years, but Philly , as seen this year, isn't going to get the marquee free agents. Embiid, Saric, Porter, Redick, Simmons is a hell of a starting 5. And with Fultz and Covington coming off the bench the second unit could be very respectable.

Jvoug1

1.) 19 Jul 2018 05:46:41
I don't think the Wizards would have any interest in moving Porter unless they ended up with a fairly significant return.


2.) 19 Jul 2018 16:38:27
@rk disagree, i think they wouldn't mind trading him, he is a solid 3rd option but i think we can agree he isn’t worth that max contract. if they could get a 1st instead of the two 2nds, i'd take the deal, stretch mahinmi and have some real cap space next summer.


3.) 22 Jul 2018 17:34:19
Sixers have Rob Cov on a decent contract. Why do this lol?


 

 

11 Jul 2018 22:25:54
76ers / Spurs

The Kawhi trade that will actually happen.

Sixers get: Kawhi, Gasol (owed $32.8 million over next two years)

Spurs get: Covington, Chandler, Holmes, TLC, 2019 unprotected#1, Heat 2021 unprotected #1, 2019 Bulls 2nd, 2019 Kings 2nd.

Sixers get the star wing the need and a backup center.
Spurs get to dump Gasols nearly $33 million, get a lockdown First team all NBA defender in Covington, get a forward in Chandler that has an expiring contract and still can contribute positive vet minutes, two young athletic players in TLC and Holmes that have no guaranteed contracts, and 4 draft picks, two unprotected first Rd picks and two likely very high second Rd picks. Spurs open up a lot of cap space for 2019 as well.

Jvoug1

1.) 11 Jul 2018 22:50:07
Covington, Saric and the picks seems like a possibility. If spurs drop the 3 1sts demand. Gasol's deal is only guaranteed for 6 or 7 mil year after next.


2.) 11 Jul 2018 23:11:08
I think SA would want Saric (he just seems like a Spurs kind of player) in place of Holmes or TLC. But, the structure is believable.


3.) 12 Jul 2018 00:40:16
I would be more interest in Pau Gasol to add to the sixers then I would Kawhi. Gasol is a championship player that could help this young core grow. How about Pau Gasol and Danny Green for Wilson Chandler TLC Richaun Holmes and throw in a second round pick or 2 since we got like 50. You keep the core of Simmons Fultz Saric Covington and Embiid with young guys Smith Korkmaz Bolden TJ Shamet on bench with veteran Green Gasol JJ Johnson Belijca. Cap space summer of 2019 with Green JJ Johnson Anderson Bayless coming off books.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2017 01:00:57
Just caught the final details on the sixers/celtics trade. realized that if the lakers pick is #1, or #6-30, sixers keep it. What i didn't know was that the 2019 kings pick has some protection as well. If the pick is the first overall pick, sixers keep it and biston gets the sixers 2019 pick wherever it falls. Trade looks even better for the sixers. But I still think it good for both teams.

Jvoug1

1.) 20 Jun 2017 16:38:15
I don't think its that great of a trade for the Celtics. Just look back at other trades where teams trade the number 1 pick for future picks. The Magic got the #3 pick that year as well as 3 other future picks. The Celtics are getting the #3 pick this year and a pick in the future that can't be #1. not good value in my eyes. Definitely would have preferred having Fultz on our team rather then playing him 4 times a year for the next 10+ years.


2.) 20 Jun 2017 16:38:15
I don't think its that great of a trade for the Celtics. Just look back at other trades where teams trade the number 1 pick for future picks. The Magic got the #3 pick that year as well as 3 other future picks. The Celtics are getting the #3 pick this year and a pick in the future that can't be #1. not good value in my eyes. Definitely would have preferred having Fultz on our team rather then playing him 4 times a year for the next 10+ years.


 

 

06 Jun 2017 22:44:46
1. 76ers/Pistons

Sixers get:Stanley Johnson
Pistons get: Okafor, Anderson, #50

Two very young players where a change of scenery may help both. Plus detroit could use some interior scoring off the bench. Philly could use some perimeter defense off the bench.

2. 76ers/Kings

Sixers get:#5 pick, Labissiere
Kings get: #3, #39

Kings secure there man in Fox at #3. Get #39 as well. Sixers get best fit in Monk at #5, get Labissiere to pair with Saric at pf.

3. Take pg Frank Jackson at #36, pg Frank Mason at #46.

4. Sign Redick, 2yrs $39 mill.
5. Sign Patterson, 2yrs $18 mill.
6. Bring over wing Furkan Korkmaz
7. Cut dead weight Henderson,Long, Rodriguez,splitter,stauskas.

C: Embiid,Holmes,Labissiere
Pf:Labissiere,Saric,Patterson
Sf:Covington,Johnson,Luwawa-cab
Sg:Redick,Monk,Bayless,Korkmaz
Pg:Simmons,McConnell,Jackson/Mason

Still keep lakers unprotected #1 in 2018 and Kings unprotected #1 in 2019. Vet presence of Redick and Patterson in the rotation should help.
Am I close on most of this? Far off on some??

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28 Apr 2017 18:23:50
76ers/knicks

Sixers get: Melo
Knicks get: Okafor.

Straight up deal. Sixers are only one of a handful of teams that can absorb melos 55 million over the next 2 years. Knicks get a 21 year old center who can score and fits nicely into the triangle offense. Knicks also free up a ton of money to improve team in other areas of need. Melo is 1 hour from where he grew up and not far from NY. Leaves with a ring in 2019.

Pg: Simmons
Sg: Monk
Sf: Covington
Pf: Melo
C: Embiid

Jvoug1

1.) 29 Apr 2017 15:31:35
Here's the issue with this. Okafor is awful. Zero defense. Thef be likely 4th on the depth chart. And really just a bad player. Knicks want, and will get, some value for melo. This certainly isn't that value.


2.) 29 Apr 2017 15:49:00
Hamburger. I see your point. I guess i'm not as down on Okafor (certainly don't view him as a potential star any more, but a kid with skills none the less) as some are. And i have read that Jackson likes Okafor to a degree. Okafor is just 21. Should be a junior in college. I think he still has some upside. But i also can see knicks fans wanting more value for melo. You want 3 or 4 of your second rounders back over the next 5 years?


3.) 01 May 2017 22:03:57
lol. hell get traded to the clippers, celts or cavs. depending on playoffs.

my guess is s&t for griffen. just seems right.


 

 

12 Apr 2017 22:52:54
76ers/Blazers

Portland is on the books for over 137 million in guranteed salary next year. Over 12 million more then the second highest paid team. Absoluyely zero flexibility with all that $$ tied up. Sixers have a better thrn 50% chance to land the Makers pick at either 4 or 5. I suggest a trade that may help both teams.

Sixers get:McCollum
Blazers get: top 5 pick, stauskas.

Sixers get combo guard that would pair up next to Simmons nicely. McCollum is a top scorer and a 42% 3pt shooter. Exactly what philly needs. Blazers get a top pick in a loaded draft. Can draft a stud wing and save 20 million. I think there could be other small parts to sweeten the deal for portland, but I think shedding McCollums 24 million salary, at a position they are stacked at, could workin rheir favor. A Tatum or Issac next to Lilliard and Nurkic could be nice.

Jvoug1

1.) 14 Apr 2017 08:38:05
Not awful for Portland but I think dealing McCollum for a rookie would set them back when they have good momentum after Nurkic trade and are already relatively young. If they are that afraid of luxury tax I think they could easily use some of their 3 first rounders (they have #15, #19 and #25) in this draft to get a bad team like Nets or Kings to take on some of their bad contracts.

Not sure how reasonable it is but I really liked a trade I saw someone post on this website where Portland gave up McCollum, Crabbe, Leonard and their 3 first rounders to the Bulls for Butler. This trade would get Portland out of the luxury and give them one of best backcourts in the league with Lillard and Butler who's defensive ability would add another dimension to that team.

Bulls would benefit from getting McCollum who is young enough to build around, has the skills to play pg and would likely improve as a #1 option. They'd also get 3 first rounders to add to their own (likely package some of them to move up) and although Crabbe and Leonard have bad contracts both are relatively young and would likely earn solid minutes on that Bulls team.

McCollum would be a perfect fit for 76ers as a proven scoring threat that is locked up long term but still young enough to grow with that team. I think he is the type of player they'd hope Monk would develop into and likely who they'd take if they got Lakers pick.


 

 

17 Mar 2017 19:43:27
76er moves

1. Sign Blake Griffin to max deal. Griffin raves about the sixers energy and never give up play. Has great respect for brett brown. Him and Embiid would be a great duo.
2. Sign JJ Redick to 2 year, 45 million deal. I think Gtiffin and redick are both leaving the clips, bring them both to philly. Redick serves an immediate need as a shooter and respected vet. He is also an underrated defender.
3. Draft Malik Monk. Monk should be available if the sixers pick in the 4-6 range. Kids only 19, a year or two learning from redick could do wonders.
4. Let Korkmaz develop one more year on europe. he's only 19.
5. Let go stauskas, rodriguez, henderson, long.

There has to he a mix of vets and kids on a roster. The $$ it will take to sign reddick and griffin will not effect the ability to sign Embiid, Simmons, or Saric to future deals. And we still have lakers unprotected #1 next year and kings unprotected #1 the following year.

Pg:Simmons,Bayless,McConnell
Sg:Redick,Monk,Luwawa-Cabarrot
Sf:Covington,Saric,Anderson
Pf:Griffin,Saric,Holmes
C: Embiid,Okafor,Splitter

This roster has mamy different possibilities and seems to be able to hold up if inkjuries occurr to any position.

Jvoug1

1.) 17 Mar 2017 20:58:34
With the one remaining roster spot, possibly sixers are able to trade a couple eraly seconds for a late first to a salary cap strapped team. Maybe to portland for the #27 pick. Hopefully pick up a potential decent player that falls on draft night.


2.) 18 Mar 2017 16:12:00
Griffin is probably not leaving, especially to go to the lowly 76ers. Redick is most likely not leaving either unless another team were to offer substantially more money than the Clippers, and I still don’t think he would go to the 76ers either.


3.) 19 Mar 2017 04:48:41
Rumor has it Paul and Griffin deals are already set they just have to wait until this offseason to sign them however I'd like to see things shake up and don't think the Clippers team the way its currently built will ever achieve anything significant.

76ers are certainly an exciting team and if they got someone the caliber of Griffin would be a playoff team and with their youth and the "unknown" factor who knows how their season would end up. Not certain Griffin is the best fit but he isn't necessarily a bad one either. However, with the injuries that have plagued Embiid and Simmons being a complete unknown at this point I don't see Philly as a realistic spot for a player of Griffin's caliber to go unless Philly moves some of its future picks to add some more win-now type talent. "Trust the process" isn't the motto of a win-now team so culture needs to change before they can attract top talent.

I think Sixers could potentially get Reddick due to how much cap space they have but I think I much rather give Monk the minutes, reps and shots in the NBA and bring in a veteran past his useful life that would be cheaper and not require as much minutes to mentor him.


4.) 19 Mar 2017 19:41:32
Yo tombrady: the "lowly" sixers just kicked the boyz in green ass's back to beantown. Oh wait, sixers are playing for nothing and boston trying to be the top seed in the east? I know, I know. no IT today. But what about all those allstar guards douchebag danny has drafted. Brown, Smart, bradely, rozier. Thought they might pick up the slack a bit. Oh yeah, sixers without their two best players, Embiid and Simmons.


5.) 20 Mar 2017 16:25:44
Celtics: 44-26
76ers: 26-43

Celtics also have the Nets pick which has better odds than your pick right now.

Congrats on the one win though! Would you like a ring? We have 17.


6.) 20 Mar 2017 17:04:11
Just a reply to your " lowly sixers" comment. Could have just left it alone, but you had to take that cheap dig. And i'm not comparing the history of the franchises, and bostons rebuild started with a lot more positives on their plate then the sixers. Go deflate a football.


7.) 21 Mar 2017 18:54:26
HAHAH, did you really just try, as a philadelphia fan and presumably an eagles fan, to mock the patriots? Go deflate a football? As if that's an insult. I believe the rebut is 5 super bowl championships with Brady, to zero. ever. Fly eagles. well, not really. They always suck.


8.) 22 Mar 2017 00:01:53
Actually not an ragles fan at all. Steelers since mid 70s.


9.) 22 Mar 2017 00:07:36
And i actually have a ton of respect for tom brady the quarterback and the pats organization. The greatest ever imo. Just frustrated. I just let the little" lowly sixers" jab get under my skin. But back to my original post, i think jj redick has a chance to come to philly if we overpay a bit.


 

 

 

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13 Aug 2018 02:30:23
Big wiz:. Lakers get barely $3 mill cap space and give up lonzo. Why would they ever do this?

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13 Aug 2018 00:23:03
LeBron James wins this trade. Hands down. He rids himself of the lavar Ball side show and is a much happier man.

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13 Aug 2018 00:15:01
I believe knight is guranteed about $14 mill this year and $15.6mill the following year. Deng is guranteed $18 mill this year and $18.8 mill the following year. That only clears $3.2 mill off the books for LA. Don't see why they do this?

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12 Aug 2018 00:44:13
I think PHX values Warren and Chris's to highly to include them both, along with a solid vet presence in Chandler to mentor Ayton, for Rubio. Suns say NO.

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11 Aug 2018 19:33:29
I think Porter is definitely a step up from Covington. he's 3 years younger, shot 44% and 41% from threes the past two seasons on heavy usage, and is a similar defender ( Covington slightly better) . Plus, Porter fills a void. A excellent outside shooter. I realize the salary difference is a big negative, and the first rd pick will probably be 20-26 range, but I think its a reasonable trade.

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