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14 Sep 2017 01:38:36
Knicks/ Nuggets:

To NYK - Juan Hernangomez

To DEN - Kyle O'Quinn

Three of the four highest paid Nuggets play the PF position, and with Juan, Denver has five PF's vs. just one true Center on the roster. O'Quinn is a quality back up big on a reasonable contract for the next two seasons.

The Knicks reunite the Hernangomez brothers while adding some much needed young depth. Juan is a sweet shooting four who could either play behind Zinger, or behind Melo should the Knicks move him and Zinger over a position. Nuggets are $9M below the cap, which means they can absorb the $3M difference in salaries without issue.

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13 Sep 2017 02:33:17
Spurs/ Pistons:

To SAS - Drummond

To DET - LMA, White, 2018 1st

Spurs move Gasol back to the four, where his much improved 3PT shooting last year would fit well, and add another defensive centrepiece to go with Kawhi.

Pistons slide Harris over to the three, where they are barren right now and take more advantage of his shooting and defensive versatility. LMA steps in at the four, and Leuer at the five. LMA's superior offensive skills to Drummond's play well in a system where he would see more touches than he did in San Antonio. Pistons also pick up two young assets.

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28 Aug 2017 23:47:30
Addition to Cavs/ C's trade:

To CLE - Thomas, Crowder, Zizic, Rozier, Brooklyn 1st

To BOS - Kyrie, Tavares

I don't believe the C's are going to be willing to give up another piece without something in return. If they're truly concerned that IT may miss the first part of the season due to surgery and they want depth, adding Rozier gives them that.

The C's on the other hand could use frontcourt depth, which Tavares would give them. By adding an asset back to Boston, Cleveland also saves big on the tax by not adding a salary without sending one out.

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1.) 29 Aug 2017 15:00:31
The Celtics already have a deal in place for a back up Center to pay behind Horford and Baynes. No way they aRe giving another player in the deal.


2.) 29 Aug 2017 18:40:57
Who is the backup big they have a deal with?


 

 

24 Aug 2017 12:57:49
Knicks/ Cavs

To NYK - TT, Shumpert, Osman, Felder, Cavs 1st

To CLE - Melo, O'Quinn

Salaries match almost to the dollar, Knicks get quality depth, Cavs make another deal to win this year, while also not giving up an important rebuilding piece (Crowder, Nets pick, Zizic) should IT, Melo and LBJ leave at the end of the year.

Cavs

PG - IT, Rose, Calderon
SG - Crowder, Smith, Korver
SF - LBJ, Melo, Jefferson
PF - Love, Melo, Frye
C - O'Quinn, Zizic, Tavares

NYK

PG - Sessions, Ntilikina, Felder
SF - Hardaway, Shumpert, Baker
SF - Lee, Thomas, Osman
PF - Porzingis, Thompson, Kuzminskus
C - Hernangomez, Thompson, Noah.

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1.) 24 Aug 2017 13:24:32
Absolute steal for the Knicks.


2.) 24 Aug 2017 13:42:08
I'm not sure how it makes sense for the Cavs to trade Thompson (a starter), Osman (a prospect the Cavs really like), and a first in a trade for a guy who doesn't even fort into the starting line up. If the Cavs were still interested I think their best offer would be something like Tavares (role looks to be filled by Zizic), Shumpert, Jefferson, Frye ( all 3 on expiring contracts so the Knicks wouldn't mind taking them and all of their minutes could be taken by Crowder, Melo and Korver), Felder (no need for a 4th pg), and a lottery protected first. It would help the Cavs pair down the roster and give them a ton of scoring off the bench and for the Knicks it's probably the best they could do at this point .


3.) 24 Aug 2017 14:54:23
Shumpert, Jefferson, Frye, Tavares and Felder don't get the salaries close enough, which is why it doesn't work.


4.) 24 Aug 2017 16:40:29
It's pretty silly to put Melo on the bench. They either go big (IT, Lebron, Melo, Love, O'Quinn), or they go no center (IT, Crowder, Lebron, Melo, Love) . But you don't put Melo on the bench.

Also, please stop posting the same stupid thing on EVERY Melo post Supercollider. We get it. We really get it.


5.) 24 Aug 2017 17:39:33
Triangle the salaries only need to match up within 25 percent. Melo would be at 26 million and the Cavs at 22 million. It's well within the acceptable limits. It would mean a fairly hefty tax bill for the Cavs though.


6.) 24 Aug 2017 19:31:35
Rkenne, that was my thought, and why I said it would not get it done. The Cavs just saved themselves a whole boat load of tax with the Irving trade, I don't think they'll want to put it back on the books if they can avoid it.

Supercollider, is it your wife that caused the Melo LaLa break up or something. For the love, though we know you're just trying to rile up Knicks fans, your shtick has just gotten really old.


 

 

19 Aug 2017 19:15:05
Spurs/ Grizz

To SAS - Green (S&T 4yr/ $56M), Wright

To MEM - Aldridge

Marc Gasol wants change from the Grizz, and adding a borderline all-star in LMA represents that. With Marc's improved outside game, him and Aldridge could make a really nice high/ low pair of bigs.

I like Green's fit with the Spurs more than Aldridge. His outside game is improving, and he does not need to be a focal point of the offense. Wright is an expiring deal that helps balance salaries.

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1.) 19 Aug 2017 22:11:42
Spurs might want a little more, but I like it.


2.) 20 Aug 2017 17:13:39
Did you really just call Aldridge a border line all star? Maybe 3 years ago but he has no value now. Maybe in another system he could thrive, but the fact is he's in the spurs system and that's diminished any value that his contract hasn't already taken away.


3.) 21 Aug 2017 00:42:23
Aldridge was #4 last year among PFs for value added (behind AD, Blake griffin, and Love) . He's a top 5 player at his position. The idea that he has no value is insane.


4.) 21 Aug 2017 01:14:08
Skills, keep in mind that if you understand that the Spurs system "diminishes value", thenevery GM in the league understands that the Spurs system "diminishes value" and will see LMA for what he is in another system, a borderline All-Star.

Did Kevin Love, in his prime, become a worse player, or did he move to a system that doesn't call for him to put up 26 and 12. If he left the Cavs and went to a system that called for him to be a more focal part of the offense, he would be back to putting up 25+ a night and making All-Star teams.


5.) 21 Aug 2017 17:29:58
Skills, before this year Aldridge has been to 5 straight allstar games. I'm not sure how calling him a borderline (you could probably drop the borderline) allstar is ridiculous.


 

 

 

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13 May 2017 17:09:20
Spurs offseason

Personally, I don't think Tony's retiring, so I'm basing this post around him still being with the team:

1) Gasol declines $16M player option, resigns for 2 yrs, $22M ($11M AAV)

2) Ginobli staves off retirement for one more year, signs 1 yr, $5M

3) Lee opts in to player option

4) Dedmon declines player option and walks.

5) Mills walks

5) Spurs draft Mathais Lessort # 29, deal 2nd round pick for a future 2nd

6) Sign with cap space Kelly Olynik 2 yrs, $12.5M

7) Use vet exception on Shaun Livingston. If Warriors are most likely not going to have the ability to sign him. Him, Ginobli and Murray cover until Parker returns, and allows to play Parker less minutes once he's back.

8) Resign Simmons 3 yrs, $22M.

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1.) 16 May 2017 18:15:46
Celtics would match that offer for Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2017 16:58:22
Three team deal:

To CLE - Melo, Nelson

To DEN - Love, Rockets 2nd (via NYK)

To NYK - Faried, 2017 MEM 1st (via DEN), Shumpert

If Melo is going to waive his no trade,
Cleveland would be one of the few places he would agree to go. The Cavs also add a quality backup PG and clear about $5M of cap spend off their books to help with luxury tax payments.

Denver is looking for a star, and they get one in Love.

Knicks add a quality PF that would allow Zinger to spend more minutes at the five. A pick and a much needed wing defender also come New York's way.

Triangle O

1.) 22 Jan 2017 17:23:44
Have that 2nd rd pick from NY go to Cleveland instead


2.) 22 Jan 2017 20:21:15
This just makes Cavs worse and Nuggets get a steal. Cavs aren't going to shake things up this late and Love is better suited as a 3rd option than Melo and provides rebounding and passing. It took two entire seasons for Love to adjust to the role and I think it would be even worse for Melo. Yes they add a backup pg but the lose Shumpert and their wing depth is already weak with JR injured.


3.) 22 Jan 2017 21:06:45
Terrible trade for the Cavs. Love fits the Cavs far better than Melo, is younger, and makes less money. Shumpert is a better and younger player than Nelson and there are free agent point guards that are just as good as Nelson. Denver gives up almost nothing for Love.


 

 

24 Mar 2016 21:46:17
LeBron's dream scenario:

After LBJ's "Dream Team" comments, I looked around the NBA for a team that has the potential to make it happen. I came up with two possibilities, and both are below:

The LA Clippers

Paul is already there, so that takes care of one issue. To get Melo there would be easy, a Melo for Griffin deal or multi-team deal that moves Griffin out and Melo in.

Bron could get there via sign and trade, as Cleveland would most likely be willing to take back Jordan if LBJ forced the issue of an S&T.

Getting Wade is a bit more difficult, but again, if he requested an S&T from the Heat, and taking a pay cut to $10-$12M a year could work if the Heat have interest in J. J., which may not be far fetched. Both Wade and Melo's wives are Hollywood types, so living in L. A. would most likely be good with everyone.

Miami Heat

While it's crazy to think that LBJ would go back, it could be possible.

The Heat have approximately $45M to spend this offseason. If Wade and LBJ would be willing to split up $30M of that (Wade $12M, LBJ $18M), the Heat still have a decent amount of wiggle room.

To get Melo, I don't think it would be difficult to convince the Knicks to take a Melo for Dragic swap (some smaller pieces could or don't need to be added) .

Getting Paul is considerably more difficult. Two options are a multi team deal that sees Bosh and Winslow go out, Winslow to LAC, and Bosh to? That could stir up enough assets to send to LAC for Paul. The other option is just wait until next offseason for Paul and sign him (ETO for 17-18 season would need to be taken) .

I hate LBJ, so I don care to see him get what he wants, but thought it would be fun to run with his comments.

Thoughts?

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1.) 25 Mar 2016 00:31:14
Or kyrie for paul. Love to Celtics bkn pick to Knicks and Melo to cavs (bits and pieces will of course be included) . Trade shumpert and frye as a salary dump. Sign wade and resign lebron.


2.) 25 Mar 2016 01:08:15
League sucks if they allow players to pull this stuff again.


3.) 25 Mar 2016 01:45:43
If I was Jim buss, I would tell the league that the trades would be unfair and creating a super team. Espically if it's the cavs to let them know how they like it.


4.) 25 Mar 2016 13:35:18
The league's got to be about competitive balance, not team stacking. The league has to approve all trades and contracts. I don't know exactly how they would stop this but the word "collusion" comes to mind. Teams cannot collude so players should be able to either. What James, Wade and Bosh did in Miami was wrong. Lesson learned. It should never happen again.

I know its a "players' league. " But there has to be limitations.


5.) 25 Mar 2016 14:09:09
I agree.


6.) 25 Mar 2016 15:34:19
I guess the one way the league could stop this would be if the owners forced a lock-out. Besides the team getting all the stars, I can't see anyone other owner in the league allowing this to happen.

Its inverse tanking. They modified the draft so that teams couldn't tank and be guaranteed the top pick. Maybe they'll need to come up with a free agency equivalent.


7.) 25 Mar 2016 18:52:05
What would happen if your team drafted all the players and they turned to stars.


8.) 25 Mar 2016 19:30:37
Drafted? I'd be fine with that. There's no organized collusion in that case.
What Bron's talking about is collusion.


9.) 25 Mar 2016 22:41:27
You should look up the definition of collusion.

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

He isn't cheating or deceiving. He just wants to play with his friends. Take less money. Win championships. No one complained when he did it with miami 5 years ago. why is it an issue now? It won't happen. If it did, it simply shows a lack of confidence or ability to win on your opwn. Nothing illegal. look at duncan or nowitski, neiother makes what their actual worth is. they took payh cuts to sign better players. but that's fine. once lebron wants to do it, with 3 others, its an issue. when he did it with 2 others, nol biggie. come on, just let things happen.

besides, i'd still bet on the warriors beating them. remember when the lakers snagged payton and malone? howd that turn out?


10.) 26 Mar 2016 12:45:27
I should look up "collusion"? "It is an agreement among firms or individuals to divide a market, set prices, limit production or limit opportunities. "

And you know darn well exactly what I'm getting at- an organized attempt to upset the competitive balance in the league. Call it whatever you want. Its clearly against the best interest of the league.

As for your claim that nobody complained over the Miami thing, that's not correct. It was brought up in the Owners Meeting in which they discussed player-player tampering. That was reported in the NY Times.


 

 

15 Feb 2016 20:35:44
Knicks/ Raptors

To TOR - Lance Thomas

To NYK - Delon Wright

Raptors are looking for both another wing and a PF. Thomas is a good addition based on his floor spacing and defense. He's also an expiring deal, meaning he contributes this year, especially with Carroll out a while longer, and the Raptors are not tied to his number next year.

Wright won't see the court in T. O. With Lowry and Joseph ahead of him on the depth chart. Knicks need a PG, why not give Delon a try.

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20 Feb 2015 22:16:07
Realistic Knicks FA targets

I try to be and think I am a realistic Knicks fan. As much as people talk about the lure of the Big Apple, look at the Knicks recent FA track record. It's full of overpaying for old, injury prone or questionable character talent. The LeBron's of the NBA are not signing with us, at least not in the immediate future.

As such, here are the five most reasonable FA targets I believe the Knicks could get, and would be good fits:

5) Goran Dragic - I'm only putting him on this list because he named New York as one of his preferred destinations. I'm pretty sure he'll resign in Miami, but should he not, the Knicks have a shot at him.

4) Thad Young - I've always liked Young, he brings a lot of good things to the table that the Knicks could use. He can play and defend multiple positions well and brings a great work ethic. Knicks don't defend and unfortunately don't hustle much either. He's still young (no pun intended) at 26, and you're not going to have to break the bank to get him ($9-$10M per).

Aaron Afflalo- The guard equivalent of Thad Young with the addition of being a good corner 3 point shooter, which is big in the triangle. $10M per guy as well.

2) Patrick Beverley - Great value addition who plays hard nose D and fits better as a triangle PF than a traditional one. If Dragic is available, throw Beverley off this list, if not, I would rather have Pat at $7M than Reggie Jackson at $14M.

1) Tobias Harris - Most people would have expected Marc Gasol as the #1 non Dragic target, but:

A) why spend max money on him if you can pick Okafor
B) He most likely stays in Memphis, and if not, goes to San Antonio

Harris isn't the defensive player that the others above are, but he's a good mid and long range shooter for a bigger guy, hustles, and most importantly he's from New York and has suggested that going home would be great. $12M should get close to landing him.

Phil has said he would be more inclined to sign mid-level FA's this offseason, and if Beverley is a guy the Knick sign, they still could sign two more of Young/Afflalo/Harris and stay just under the cap without other moves. Assuming filling needs, let's go with Harris and Afflalo, which would give the Knicks a potential 2015-16 starting lineup of:

PG - Beverley
SG - Afflalo
SF - Melo
PF - Harris
C - Okafor

Championship contender, not yet, but 15-16 would be a much better year. With no first round pick in 16, might as well be better anyways!

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22 Sep 2017 22:01:25
Bmiller, I completely agree, my comment was only that he would rather stay in NYC and continue to hold out hope for Houston instead of accepting a deal to Portland.

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22 Sep 2017 16:10:33
Super, I think he means Malik Beasley.

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22 Sep 2017 14:18:58
Asik and Ajinca is too much garbage for the Knicks to take on just to move Melo and pick up a couple of mid to late first rounders.

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22 Sep 2017 14:15:02
I don't know that he'll accept the Blazers trade. It looks like his family is all ready to move to Houston, and based on La LA's career, staying in NY would be better than living in Portland.

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21 Sep 2017 13:14:03
But they could have Horford and the Nets first for Melo from Boston if they want Super.

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