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13 Feb 2018 04:31:12
Spurs offseason

Draft Jontay Porter (Mizzou) at 26 and Bonzie Colson (ND) at 58

Danny Green opts in

Rudy Gay opts in

Joffrey Lauvernge opts out

Re-sign Tony Parker for vet minimum

Re-Sign Kyle Anderson

Sign Kyle O'Quinn for mid-level

Trade Patti Mills to Dallas for Dwight Powell

2018-19 Spurs

PG - Murray, Parker, White
SG - Green, Ginobili, Forbes
SF - Leonard, Gay, Anderson
PF - LMA, Powell, Bertans
C - Gasol, O'Quinn, Porter

As usual, Spurs don't make big changes, but do add much needed frontcourt depth and keep two quality pieces.

Triangle O

1.) 13 Feb 2018 05:19:43
I'm curious about Pappagianis. Seems exactly like a guy S. A. Would take on.


2.) 13 Feb 2018 13:33:22
Yeah, he crossed my mind mind, but think they may want a little more vet presence in the frontcourt. As this season is starting to look lost, now may be the time to grab him.


3.) 13 Feb 2018 17:08:52
Didn't I hear that GinobilI is retiring?


 

 

03 Feb 2018 17:34:43
Spurs moves:

#1

Bryn Forbes to NY for Willie Hernangomez and the 2019 ORL/ CLE/ HOU 2nd round pick

#2

Sign Tony Allen after buyout

Pretty simple, I don't expect the Spurs to do much but add another big and a depth wing. Spurs have reportedly had interest in Willie for a while, and Tony Allen is a Spurs type move. Knicks get the wing they were looking for, and clear a bit of the logjam in the middle.

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02 Feb 2018 23:02:50
Knicks/ Bucks

To MIL: O'Quinn, 2019 2nd from either ORL/ CLE/ HOU

To NYK: D. J. Wilson

Bucks are looking for a quality rotation Center, which O'Quinn fits.

Knicks pick up a young PF who hasn't seen the court much with the Bucks but has potential, and Vaughn, who is a young wing who the Bucks don't seem interested in keeping and is an expiring deal.

Triangle O

1.) 02 Feb 2018 23:36:39
Milwaukee currently has 2 other PF's playing Center. They don't need another. As you stated, D. J. Wilson hasn't seen much PT. That was J. Kidds fault! Wilson has played more in the last 4 games under Prunty, Than he did all season with Kidd. The Bucks are still high on him. Vaughn will be a toss in on any trade. Look for the Bucks to find more front Court help. "Centers" Jordan, and Whiteside are the 2 they are currently interested. Plus, Milwaukee can send a 2nd pick plus Vaughn to GS for McGee, and they are set to sign A. Bogut after the trade deadline, as the Bucks also have 2 exceptions. One for 3.4 Mil. and one for 5 Mil. Look for Bogut to get the 5 Mil.


 

 

31 Jan 2018 18:23:13
Knicks/ Clips

Noah for Danilo straight up.

Seems simple enough. If Jordan is dealt, Clips are going to need depth at Center. With the addition of Harris, there is no need for Gallo as they are similar players.

Knicks clear out one of their four Centers and get back a needed wing/ PF.

Both guys have two more years on their contract after this season as almost the exact same per, so neither team gains or loses anything financially.

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1.) 31 Jan 2018 18:38:28
NY should also give a second round pick.


2.) 31 Jan 2018 18:40:28
Gallo can still play up to his contract when healthy. Deng looks like he's completely done. The Knicks need to add some significant young talent to this.


3.) 31 Jan 2018 19:02:17
When's the last time you saw Deng log meaningful minutes?


4.) 31 Jan 2018 19:03:33
Keep in mind Gallo is never healthy, and he is not needed in Clipperland anymore.


5.) 31 Jan 2018 19:07:38
Im not saying its necessarily a worthwhile trade, but galinari is an awful contract. Dude hasn't played more than 75% of the season since 2012-13. He has had lingering injuries. And when he did play this year, he shot like 35%. Both players are scrubs.


 

 

06 Jan 2018 10:03:57
Hornets/ Suns

To CHA: Monroe (Exp), Chriss, Ulis, Miami 2018 first

To PHO: Walker, Williams

Hornets are a disappointment again, and are scheduled to pay the luxury tax this year and next as a lottery team. Moving an All-Star in Walker hurts, but to get rid of a bad deal and drop below the luxury tax, it's the only way the Hornets will get real assets back. They get Monroe's expiring deal, two young players with some potential and a first that should fall between 12-18.

Suns spent all summer chasing a big time PG, and they get one in Walker. They have the cap space next year to eat Williams deal, and then have that deal come off the books when it's time to re-sign Walker in the summer of 2019.

Triangle O

1.) 06 Jan 2018 11:56:57
it's a good trade for both teams, i like it.

Maybe they should involve NO to get Cousins too.

Phoe: D Cousins+ K Walker

Cha: Mornoe+ Chriss+Ulis/ 1rnd pick Miami


NO: M Williams+ 1rnd pick Phoe.


2.) 06 Jan 2018 14:23:33
Not a bad deal, all in all. but. Booker now holds more power over player decisions within the Suns than a 21 yr old player ever should (and they want him to have it) and Ulis is his close friend.


3.) 06 Jan 2018 14:32:22
Kemba's not going anywhere although I could see the Suns taking M Williams for locker room and vet presence as Chandler and Monroe should be traded away by the deadline. M Chriss's would look good in a Hornets uni.


 

 

 

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13 May 2017 17:09:20
Spurs offseason

Personally, I don't think Tony's retiring, so I'm basing this post around him still being with the team:

1) Gasol declines $16M player option, resigns for 2 yrs, $22M ($11M AAV)

2) Ginobli staves off retirement for one more year, signs 1 yr, $5M

3) Lee opts in to player option

4) Dedmon declines player option and walks.

5) Mills walks

5) Spurs draft Mathais Lessort # 29, deal 2nd round pick for a future 2nd

6) Sign with cap space Kelly Olynik 2 yrs, $12.5M

7) Use vet exception on Shaun Livingston. If Warriors are most likely not going to have the ability to sign him. Him, Ginobli and Murray cover until Parker returns, and allows to play Parker less minutes once he's back.

8) Resign Simmons 3 yrs, $22M.

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1.) 16 May 2017 18:15:46
Celtics would match that offer for Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2017 16:58:22
Three team deal:

To CLE - Melo, Nelson

To DEN - Love, Rockets 2nd (via NYK)

To NYK - Faried, 2017 MEM 1st (via DEN), Shumpert

If Melo is going to waive his no trade,
Cleveland would be one of the few places he would agree to go. The Cavs also add a quality backup PG and clear about $5M of cap spend off their books to help with luxury tax payments.

Denver is looking for a star, and they get one in Love.

Knicks add a quality PF that would allow Zinger to spend more minutes at the five. A pick and a much needed wing defender also come New York's way.

Triangle O

1.) 22 Jan 2017 17:23:44
Have that 2nd rd pick from NY go to Cleveland instead


2.) 22 Jan 2017 20:21:15
This just makes Cavs worse and Nuggets get a steal. Cavs aren't going to shake things up this late and Love is better suited as a 3rd option than Melo and provides rebounding and passing. It took two entire seasons for Love to adjust to the role and I think it would be even worse for Melo. Yes they add a backup pg but the lose Shumpert and their wing depth is already weak with JR injured.


3.) 22 Jan 2017 21:06:45
Terrible trade for the Cavs. Love fits the Cavs far better than Melo, is younger, and makes less money. Shumpert is a better and younger player than Nelson and there are free agent point guards that are just as good as Nelson. Denver gives up almost nothing for Love.


 

 

24 Mar 2016 21:46:17
LeBron's dream scenario:

After LBJ's "Dream Team" comments, I looked around the NBA for a team that has the potential to make it happen. I came up with two possibilities, and both are below:

The LA Clippers

Paul is already there, so that takes care of one issue. To get Melo there would be easy, a Melo for Griffin deal or multi-team deal that moves Griffin out and Melo in.

Bron could get there via sign and trade, as Cleveland would most likely be willing to take back Jordan if LBJ forced the issue of an S&T.

Getting Wade is a bit more difficult, but again, if he requested an S&T from the Heat, and taking a pay cut to $10-$12M a year could work if the Heat have interest in J. J., which may not be far fetched. Both Wade and Melo's wives are Hollywood types, so living in L. A. would most likely be good with everyone.

Miami Heat

While it's crazy to think that LBJ would go back, it could be possible.

The Heat have approximately $45M to spend this offseason. If Wade and LBJ would be willing to split up $30M of that (Wade $12M, LBJ $18M), the Heat still have a decent amount of wiggle room.

To get Melo, I don't think it would be difficult to convince the Knicks to take a Melo for Dragic swap (some smaller pieces could or don't need to be added) .

Getting Paul is considerably more difficult. Two options are a multi team deal that sees Bosh and Winslow go out, Winslow to LAC, and Bosh to? That could stir up enough assets to send to LAC for Paul. The other option is just wait until next offseason for Paul and sign him (ETO for 17-18 season would need to be taken) .

I hate LBJ, so I don care to see him get what he wants, but thought it would be fun to run with his comments.

Thoughts?

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1.) 25 Mar 2016 00:31:14
Or kyrie for paul. Love to Celtics bkn pick to Knicks and Melo to cavs (bits and pieces will of course be included) . Trade shumpert and frye as a salary dump. Sign wade and resign lebron.


2.) 25 Mar 2016 01:08:15
League sucks if they allow players to pull this stuff again.


3.) 25 Mar 2016 01:45:43
If I was Jim buss, I would tell the league that the trades would be unfair and creating a super team. Espically if it's the cavs to let them know how they like it.


4.) 25 Mar 2016 13:35:18
The league's got to be about competitive balance, not team stacking. The league has to approve all trades and contracts. I don't know exactly how they would stop this but the word "collusion" comes to mind. Teams cannot collude so players should be able to either. What James, Wade and Bosh did in Miami was wrong. Lesson learned. It should never happen again.

I know its a "players' league. " But there has to be limitations.


5.) 25 Mar 2016 14:09:09
I agree.


6.) 25 Mar 2016 15:34:19
I guess the one way the league could stop this would be if the owners forced a lock-out. Besides the team getting all the stars, I can't see anyone other owner in the league allowing this to happen.

Its inverse tanking. They modified the draft so that teams couldn't tank and be guaranteed the top pick. Maybe they'll need to come up with a free agency equivalent.


7.) 25 Mar 2016 18:52:05
What would happen if your team drafted all the players and they turned to stars.


8.) 25 Mar 2016 19:30:37
Drafted? I'd be fine with that. There's no organized collusion in that case.
What Bron's talking about is collusion.


9.) 25 Mar 2016 22:41:27
You should look up the definition of collusion.

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

He isn't cheating or deceiving. He just wants to play with his friends. Take less money. Win championships. No one complained when he did it with miami 5 years ago. why is it an issue now? It won't happen. If it did, it simply shows a lack of confidence or ability to win on your opwn. Nothing illegal. look at duncan or nowitski, neiother makes what their actual worth is. they took payh cuts to sign better players. but that's fine. once lebron wants to do it, with 3 others, its an issue. when he did it with 2 others, nol biggie. come on, just let things happen.

besides, i'd still bet on the warriors beating them. remember when the lakers snagged payton and malone? howd that turn out?


10.) 26 Mar 2016 12:45:27
I should look up "collusion"? "It is an agreement among firms or individuals to divide a market, set prices, limit production or limit opportunities. "

And you know darn well exactly what I'm getting at- an organized attempt to upset the competitive balance in the league. Call it whatever you want. Its clearly against the best interest of the league.

As for your claim that nobody complained over the Miami thing, that's not correct. It was brought up in the Owners Meeting in which they discussed player-player tampering. That was reported in the NY Times.


 

 

15 Feb 2016 20:35:44
Knicks/ Raptors

To TOR - Lance Thomas

To NYK - Delon Wright

Raptors are looking for both another wing and a PF. Thomas is a good addition based on his floor spacing and defense. He's also an expiring deal, meaning he contributes this year, especially with Carroll out a while longer, and the Raptors are not tied to his number next year.

Wright won't see the court in T. O. With Lowry and Joseph ahead of him on the depth chart. Knicks need a PG, why not give Delon a try.

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20 Feb 2015 22:16:07
Realistic Knicks FA targets

I try to be and think I am a realistic Knicks fan. As much as people talk about the lure of the Big Apple, look at the Knicks recent FA track record. It's full of overpaying for old, injury prone or questionable character talent. The LeBron's of the NBA are not signing with us, at least not in the immediate future.

As such, here are the five most reasonable FA targets I believe the Knicks could get, and would be good fits:

5) Goran Dragic - I'm only putting him on this list because he named New York as one of his preferred destinations. I'm pretty sure he'll resign in Miami, but should he not, the Knicks have a shot at him.

4) Thad Young - I've always liked Young, he brings a lot of good things to the table that the Knicks could use. He can play and defend multiple positions well and brings a great work ethic. Knicks don't defend and unfortunately don't hustle much either. He's still young (no pun intended) at 26, and you're not going to have to break the bank to get him ($9-$10M per).

Aaron Afflalo- The guard equivalent of Thad Young with the addition of being a good corner 3 point shooter, which is big in the triangle. $10M per guy as well.

2) Patrick Beverley - Great value addition who plays hard nose D and fits better as a triangle PF than a traditional one. If Dragic is available, throw Beverley off this list, if not, I would rather have Pat at $7M than Reggie Jackson at $14M.

1) Tobias Harris - Most people would have expected Marc Gasol as the #1 non Dragic target, but:

A) why spend max money on him if you can pick Okafor
B) He most likely stays in Memphis, and if not, goes to San Antonio

Harris isn't the defensive player that the others above are, but he's a good mid and long range shooter for a bigger guy, hustles, and most importantly he's from New York and has suggested that going home would be great. $12M should get close to landing him.

Phil has said he would be more inclined to sign mid-level FA's this offseason, and if Beverley is a guy the Knick sign, they still could sign two more of Young/Afflalo/Harris and stay just under the cap without other moves. Assuming filling needs, let's go with Harris and Afflalo, which would give the Knicks a potential 2015-16 starting lineup of:

PG - Beverley
SG - Afflalo
SF - Melo
PF - Harris
C - Okafor

Championship contender, not yet, but 15-16 would be a much better year. With no first round pick in 16, might as well be better anyways!

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21 Feb 2018 04:59:44
Tostitochip, be real man. If you think that Cam Payne gets you a chance to move up four spots, then I would love to sell you Patti Mills for pick 8 alone.

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20 Feb 2018 22:17:18
Trades 1 and 3 are terrible for Cleveland, and if LBJ really wants to go to LA, I think he would rather take the Lakers Max they can offer and keep Ingram around.

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20 Feb 2018 22:15:04
Cam Payne is not a sweetener to move down four spots for.

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19 Feb 2018 03:03:03
Durant is not leaving Lakers anytime soon.

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17 Feb 2018 14:16:19
Raptors don't have $20M to spend, they're over the cap. If they did, they would be much more likely to be in on a better player than Thompson.

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