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16 Apr 2018 06:13:29
Spurs/ Sixers:

To PHI - Leonard

To SAS - Covington, Saric, 2018 LAL 1st, 2018 PHI 1st, 2018 Knicks 2nd, 2020 PHI 1st

Should the Sixers not feel like they can land LBJ, going after Kawhi would make sense for them. KL, Joel, Simmons and Fultz could terrorize the L for years.

Spurs land a underrated Covington who is on a very reasonable contract (AAV of $11M for 4 more seasons), there starting PF for the future, and a cache of picks. I know some people have suggested Fultz be a target, but I think Covington is the way to go. Also, I do believe the Spurs already have their PG of the future in Dejonte, who does not have Fultz upside, but I would rather him and Covington vs. him and Fultz, and then trying to fill the SF hole without cap space. With three firsts this year, there is an opportunity to get two quality players and stash a good prospect with the Philly pick.

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1.) 16 Apr 2018 06:40:15
I like this for both teams as long as KL agrees to sign after the season.


2.) 16 Apr 2018 14:55:58
That's the key, Wiz. If he re-signs. That is why S. A. may have trouble getting full worth for Leonard. If he doesn't want to sign an extension, teams are nor giving up top dollar for him.


3.) 16 Apr 2018 19:20:10
Covington saric and 1 decent first? I think since leonard only has 1 year and is coming off a injury. This might be the best they can get. the other 1st are garbage if Leonard end up playing and sticking around with the sixers.


4.) 17 Apr 2018 14:53:02
I like your post triangle o

If your post done this off-season

Spurs moves supposed to be like this

Draft Kevin Knox ( 2018 76ers pick via Lakers)
Draft Zhaire Smith ( 2018 Spurs own pick)
Draft Keita Bates Diop ( Knicks 2nd pk )

Resign Parker 2 yr/ min vet
Resign Anderson 3 yr/ $$$
Resign bertans 2 yr / $$$

Spurs depth
Pg Murray, Mills, Parker, white
Sg green, ginobili, smith
Sf anderson, Knox, diop
Pf aldrigde, saric, gay
C Gasol, Bertans, lauvernge.


 

 

30 Mar 2018 23:52:58
Hornets/ Pacers draft day deal

To CHA - Collison, Jefferson, Leaf, 2018 1st, 2020 1st (top 10 protected)

To IND - Walker, Zeller

Charlotte ditches Zeller's bloated deal while picking up two expiring contracts, a young player in Leaf, and two 1st's.

Pacers have been a pleasant surprise and now look like they should be adding instead of rebuilding. Adding another All-Star in Walker makes up for losing young assets and taking on Zeller through 2019-20.

Triangle O

1.) 31 Mar 2018 00:44:07
Keep Leaf, sub in J. Young. Or keep Leaf, lift protection. Looks pretty good.


2.) 07 Apr 2018 21:42:29
No way pacers give up that much for possible one year of walker and a bloated contract Zeller most likely a back up.


 

 

22 Feb 2018 03:38:30
Lakers/ Spurs offseason

To LAL: Kawhi Leonard

To SAS: Ingram, Kuzma, 2018 1st via CLE

I'm a Spurs fan, and I'm a little concerned with the KL situation right now. If it's true that he's intentionally sitting out though cleared, the Spurs may want to look at a deal for him.

If they do put him on the market, there is no doubt that the Lakers would have interest. At $21M for next year, the Lakers could still have up to $60M to add two more stars and make a Super team. Their is also a good likelihood that KL resigns in La La at the end of next year.

Spurs start the rebuild with two quality young pieces, and an additional 2018 pick. Adding Ingram, Kuz, and two picks (Landry Shammet and Brandon McCoy? ), along with a sell high on LMA could reset the Spurs for 2018-19 and beyond.

Triangle O

1.) 22 Feb 2018 08:35:04
LA should include Ball in the trade and maybe keep Kuzma.


2.) 22 Feb 2018 09:35:46
Spurs don't need ball.


3.) 22 Feb 2018 09:20:06
Since its reported he went to see a specialist in New York its safe to say he's injured. He may be cleared, but that specialist could have recommended a more cautious approach. 20-25 games left in the season. Not too big of a deal. Families argue. Good communication prevails. Anything is possible.


4.) 23 Feb 2018 00:02:32
I can't see the Lakers giving up 2 of their 3 elite prospects without bailing on Deng.


 

 

13 Feb 2018 04:31:12
Spurs offseason

Draft Jontay Porter (Mizzou) at 26 and Bonzie Colson (ND) at 58

Danny Green opts in

Rudy Gay opts in

Joffrey Lauvernge opts out

Re-sign Tony Parker for vet minimum

Re-Sign Kyle Anderson

Sign Kyle O'Quinn for mid-level

Trade Patti Mills to Dallas for Dwight Powell

2018-19 Spurs

PG - Murray, Parker, White
SG - Green, Ginobili, Forbes
SF - Leonard, Gay, Anderson
PF - LMA, Powell, Bertans
C - Gasol, O'Quinn, Porter

As usual, Spurs don't make big changes, but do add much needed frontcourt depth and keep two quality pieces.

Triangle O

1.) 13 Feb 2018 05:19:43
I'm curious about Pappagianis. Seems exactly like a guy S. A. Would take on.


2.) 13 Feb 2018 13:33:22
Yeah, he crossed my mind mind, but think they may want a little more vet presence in the frontcourt. As this season is starting to look lost, now may be the time to grab him.


3.) 13 Feb 2018 17:08:52
Didn't I hear that GinobilI is retiring?


 

 

03 Feb 2018 17:34:43
Spurs moves:

#1

Bryn Forbes to NY for Willie Hernangomez and the 2019 ORL/ CLE/ HOU 2nd round pick

#2

Sign Tony Allen after buyout

Pretty simple, I don't expect the Spurs to do much but add another big and a depth wing. Spurs have reportedly had interest in Willie for a while, and Tony Allen is a Spurs type move. Knicks get the wing they were looking for, and clear a bit of the logjam in the middle.

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13 May 2017 17:09:20
Spurs offseason

Personally, I don't think Tony's retiring, so I'm basing this post around him still being with the team:

1) Gasol declines $16M player option, resigns for 2 yrs, $22M ($11M AAV)

2) Ginobli staves off retirement for one more year, signs 1 yr, $5M

3) Lee opts in to player option

4) Dedmon declines player option and walks.

5) Mills walks

5) Spurs draft Mathais Lessort # 29, deal 2nd round pick for a future 2nd

6) Sign with cap space Kelly Olynik 2 yrs, $12.5M

7) Use vet exception on Shaun Livingston. If Warriors are most likely not going to have the ability to sign him. Him, Ginobli and Murray cover until Parker returns, and allows to play Parker less minutes once he's back.

8) Resign Simmons 3 yrs, $22M.

Triangle O

1.) 16 May 2017 18:15:46
Celtics would match that offer for Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2017 16:58:22
Three team deal:

To CLE - Melo, Nelson

To DEN - Love, Rockets 2nd (via NYK)

To NYK - Faried, 2017 MEM 1st (via DEN), Shumpert

If Melo is going to waive his no trade,
Cleveland would be one of the few places he would agree to go. The Cavs also add a quality backup PG and clear about $5M of cap spend off their books to help with luxury tax payments.

Denver is looking for a star, and they get one in Love.

Knicks add a quality PF that would allow Zinger to spend more minutes at the five. A pick and a much needed wing defender also come New York's way.

Triangle O

1.) 22 Jan 2017 17:23:44
Have that 2nd rd pick from NY go to Cleveland instead


2.) 22 Jan 2017 20:21:15
This just makes Cavs worse and Nuggets get a steal. Cavs aren't going to shake things up this late and Love is better suited as a 3rd option than Melo and provides rebounding and passing. It took two entire seasons for Love to adjust to the role and I think it would be even worse for Melo. Yes they add a backup pg but the lose Shumpert and their wing depth is already weak with JR injured.


3.) 22 Jan 2017 21:06:45
Terrible trade for the Cavs. Love fits the Cavs far better than Melo, is younger, and makes less money. Shumpert is a better and younger player than Nelson and there are free agent point guards that are just as good as Nelson. Denver gives up almost nothing for Love.


 

 

24 Mar 2016 21:46:17
LeBron's dream scenario:

After LBJ's "Dream Team" comments, I looked around the NBA for a team that has the potential to make it happen. I came up with two possibilities, and both are below:

The LA Clippers

Paul is already there, so that takes care of one issue. To get Melo there would be easy, a Melo for Griffin deal or multi-team deal that moves Griffin out and Melo in.

Bron could get there via sign and trade, as Cleveland would most likely be willing to take back Jordan if LBJ forced the issue of an S&T.

Getting Wade is a bit more difficult, but again, if he requested an S&T from the Heat, and taking a pay cut to $10-$12M a year could work if the Heat have interest in J. J., which may not be far fetched. Both Wade and Melo's wives are Hollywood types, so living in L. A. would most likely be good with everyone.

Miami Heat

While it's crazy to think that LBJ would go back, it could be possible.

The Heat have approximately $45M to spend this offseason. If Wade and LBJ would be willing to split up $30M of that (Wade $12M, LBJ $18M), the Heat still have a decent amount of wiggle room.

To get Melo, I don't think it would be difficult to convince the Knicks to take a Melo for Dragic swap (some smaller pieces could or don't need to be added) .

Getting Paul is considerably more difficult. Two options are a multi team deal that sees Bosh and Winslow go out, Winslow to LAC, and Bosh to? That could stir up enough assets to send to LAC for Paul. The other option is just wait until next offseason for Paul and sign him (ETO for 17-18 season would need to be taken) .

I hate LBJ, so I don care to see him get what he wants, but thought it would be fun to run with his comments.

Thoughts?

Triangle O

1.) 25 Mar 2016 00:31:14
Or kyrie for paul. Love to Celtics bkn pick to Knicks and Melo to cavs (bits and pieces will of course be included) . Trade shumpert and frye as a salary dump. Sign wade and resign lebron.


2.) 25 Mar 2016 01:08:15
League sucks if they allow players to pull this stuff again.


3.) 25 Mar 2016 01:45:43
If I was Jim buss, I would tell the league that the trades would be unfair and creating a super team. Espically if it's the cavs to let them know how they like it.


4.) 25 Mar 2016 13:35:18
The league's got to be about competitive balance, not team stacking. The league has to approve all trades and contracts. I don't know exactly how they would stop this but the word "collusion" comes to mind. Teams cannot collude so players should be able to either. What James, Wade and Bosh did in Miami was wrong. Lesson learned. It should never happen again.

I know its a "players' league. " But there has to be limitations.


5.) 25 Mar 2016 14:09:09
I agree.


6.) 25 Mar 2016 15:34:19
I guess the one way the league could stop this would be if the owners forced a lock-out. Besides the team getting all the stars, I can't see anyone other owner in the league allowing this to happen.

Its inverse tanking. They modified the draft so that teams couldn't tank and be guaranteed the top pick. Maybe they'll need to come up with a free agency equivalent.


7.) 25 Mar 2016 18:52:05
What would happen if your team drafted all the players and they turned to stars.


8.) 25 Mar 2016 19:30:37
Drafted? I'd be fine with that. There's no organized collusion in that case.
What Bron's talking about is collusion.


9.) 25 Mar 2016 22:41:27
You should look up the definition of collusion.

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

He isn't cheating or deceiving. He just wants to play with his friends. Take less money. Win championships. No one complained when he did it with miami 5 years ago. why is it an issue now? It won't happen. If it did, it simply shows a lack of confidence or ability to win on your opwn. Nothing illegal. look at duncan or nowitski, neiother makes what their actual worth is. they took payh cuts to sign better players. but that's fine. once lebron wants to do it, with 3 others, its an issue. when he did it with 2 others, nol biggie. come on, just let things happen.

besides, i'd still bet on the warriors beating them. remember when the lakers snagged payton and malone? howd that turn out?


10.) 26 Mar 2016 12:45:27
I should look up "collusion"? "It is an agreement among firms or individuals to divide a market, set prices, limit production or limit opportunities. "

And you know darn well exactly what I'm getting at- an organized attempt to upset the competitive balance in the league. Call it whatever you want. Its clearly against the best interest of the league.

As for your claim that nobody complained over the Miami thing, that's not correct. It was brought up in the Owners Meeting in which they discussed player-player tampering. That was reported in the NY Times.


 

 

15 Feb 2016 20:35:44
Knicks/ Raptors

To TOR - Lance Thomas

To NYK - Delon Wright

Raptors are looking for both another wing and a PF. Thomas is a good addition based on his floor spacing and defense. He's also an expiring deal, meaning he contributes this year, especially with Carroll out a while longer, and the Raptors are not tied to his number next year.

Wright won't see the court in T. O. With Lowry and Joseph ahead of him on the depth chart. Knicks need a PG, why not give Delon a try.

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20 Feb 2015 22:16:07
Realistic Knicks FA targets

I try to be and think I am a realistic Knicks fan. As much as people talk about the lure of the Big Apple, look at the Knicks recent FA track record. It's full of overpaying for old, injury prone or questionable character talent. The LeBron's of the NBA are not signing with us, at least not in the immediate future.

As such, here are the five most reasonable FA targets I believe the Knicks could get, and would be good fits:

5) Goran Dragic - I'm only putting him on this list because he named New York as one of his preferred destinations. I'm pretty sure he'll resign in Miami, but should he not, the Knicks have a shot at him.

4) Thad Young - I've always liked Young, he brings a lot of good things to the table that the Knicks could use. He can play and defend multiple positions well and brings a great work ethic. Knicks don't defend and unfortunately don't hustle much either. He's still young (no pun intended) at 26, and you're not going to have to break the bank to get him ($9-$10M per).

Aaron Afflalo- The guard equivalent of Thad Young with the addition of being a good corner 3 point shooter, which is big in the triangle. $10M per guy as well.

2) Patrick Beverley - Great value addition who plays hard nose D and fits better as a triangle PF than a traditional one. If Dragic is available, throw Beverley off this list, if not, I would rather have Pat at $7M than Reggie Jackson at $14M.

1) Tobias Harris - Most people would have expected Marc Gasol as the #1 non Dragic target, but:

A) why spend max money on him if you can pick Okafor
B) He most likely stays in Memphis, and if not, goes to San Antonio

Harris isn't the defensive player that the others above are, but he's a good mid and long range shooter for a bigger guy, hustles, and most importantly he's from New York and has suggested that going home would be great. $12M should get close to landing him.

Phil has said he would be more inclined to sign mid-level FA's this offseason, and if Beverley is a guy the Knick sign, they still could sign two more of Young/Afflalo/Harris and stay just under the cap without other moves. Assuming filling needs, let's go with Harris and Afflalo, which would give the Knicks a potential 2015-16 starting lineup of:

PG - Beverley
SG - Afflalo
SF - Melo
PF - Harris
C - Okafor

Championship contender, not yet, but 15-16 would be a much better year. With no first round pick in 16, might as well be better anyways!

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25 Apr 2018 03:36:14
All of those are terrible, Spurs hang up on the opposing GM every time.

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25 Apr 2018 03:34:14
Well, talking about PG13, if he would agree to go to the Pels, why not a S&T of DMC and PG? I would have my concerns about Cousins and Russ meshing well together, but if they could, starting DMC at the four with Melo sliding back to the three isn't the craziest scenario.

PG probably won't agree to go to NO, but he would be a better fit than DMC with AD, and it could make them a more serious contender in the West.

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25 Apr 2018 03:29:56
rkenne, you know it's ABE that's disliking yours and dacman's responses, who else could it be?

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25 Apr 2018 03:26:29
See, I don't hate it for the Knicks or C's, but I don't think the Knicks will tap out on Porzingis, even if it is a fair offer.

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25 Apr 2018 03:22:21
I actually like Sabonis and Joseph, but they're role players and won't get you Wall, even with the picks.

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