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13 Feb 2022 15:30:09
Spurs offseason

2022 Draft - AJ Griffin 6-8 range)
Deal their two late teens picks (C’s + Raps) for a pick around the 10 range to get Bennedict Mathurin


FA Signings - Ricky Rubio, Thomas Bryant

Spurs have 12 players under contract next year, with almost $30M in cap space and potentially three 1st round picks (2 for sure) . They could look at a big trade for an All-Star, but let’s assume they go all Spurs like and keep their offseason to solid picks and FA’s.

In the draft the Spurs add shooting and size at both the 3/ 4 and SG positions. Griffin and Mathurin are both shooting over 40% this season with other intangibles to make them good NBA pros.

In FA, the Spurs add to their depth with two solid veterans. Rubio in particular becomes the great locker room veteran voice to help some of the youth continue to grow.

Spurs let Lonsdale and Diop walk, and have a decision to make on Walker. Ultimately, if Walker gets an offer of more than $10M-$12M a year, Spurs should let him walk.

2022-23 Roster

PG - Murray, Rubio, Jones
SG - Vassell, Mathurin, Primo, Langford
SF - Johnson, McDermott, Richardson
PF - Griffin, Collins
C - Poeltl, Bryant.

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1.) 13 Feb 2022 17:17:16
Okay, let's do the math. Spurs have 12 under contact and you are waiving 2 of 4 non-guaranteed contracts (Diop and Landale) which I don't really understand since they are minimum contracts, but hey you are running this show. The 10 contacts come to $95.3 mil in total salary. With a next year's salary cap being $121, that leaves $25.7 mil in cap space. However, you are not accounting for Walker's QO and Cap Hold ($6.3 mil and $13.3 mil) to have the rights to decide to match any offers. So that $13.3 mil cap hold drops the Spurs cap space to $12.4 mil. Additionally, you have the cap holds for the 2 draft picks (#7 and #11) which are $4.8 mil and $3.7 mil.

So, the Spurs cap space under the scenario that you describe is actually just around $4 mil to try to sign FAs. Now, the Spurs also have the MLE @ $10.3 and BLE @ $4 mil to sign free agents. Now, I am not saying that it cannot be done, but I don't think it will be as easy as you seem to make it. Nor do I think that picks #19 and #20 will get the Spurs pick #11.


 

 

06 Feb 2022 03:57:11
Spurs/ Suns

To PHO - Young

To SAS - Smith, Saric

Thad is perfect for what the Suns are looking for, another wing defender/ small ball 5.

Spurs take a chance on Jalen, who has flashed some potential, and is at the right age to grow with the rest of the roster. Saric needs to be part of the deal for matching reasons, and could be used as an expiring deal trade next year.

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1.) 06 Feb 2022 12:51:23
Spurs need to add a little. Thad doesn't have quite this value.


 

 

06 Feb 2022 03:50:43
Raps/ Knicks/ Cavs

To TOR - Fournier, Noel

To NYK - Rubio, Boucher, Flynn, 2022 2nd (SAS via Cavs), 2023 2nd (via Raps)

To CLE - Dragic

Raps add rim protection, additional shooting and overall better depth.

Cleveland adds a much needed guard and effectively only gives up a 2nd to get Dragic.

Knicks play the long game by adding a young PG in Flynn and additional picks. Rubio never plays for the team, but Boucher gives them a different look at C as Noel and Robinson are too similar as players. Knicks also clear short and long term cap space.

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06 Feb 2022 00:39:11
Raps/ Spurs

To TO - Poeltl

To SAS - Boucher, Bonga, 2022 1st

Salary numbers match almost to the dollar. Spurs get a 1st forJakob, Raps get the C they need and open up a roster spot.

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1.) 06 Feb 2022 03:39:23
Late 1st and boucher's bird rights might not be enough for the spurs. Maybe switch Flynn for Bonga if Spurs prefer the rookie contract over the cap space. Charlotte and others could offer better package if they want Jacob. Would love to see him back in Toronto.


 

 

26 Jan 2022 19:13:33
Easy deal:

To TOR - Ricky Rubio, 2022 2nd (SAS)

To CLE - Dragic

With Rubio out for the year and on an expiring deal, the Cavs upgrade at backup PG/ SG with Dragic. Raps pick up a 2nd, which is a fair value for Goran.

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1.) 26 Jan 2022 21:10:43
Toronto is going to want Houston 2021 second from Cleveland.


 

 

 

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08 Apr 2020 12:31:04
Knicks top five FA targets 2020:

Look, even as a Knicks fan I am not delusional enough to think:

A) there is a difference maker in this FA class other than AD who almost assuredly will stay in LA.

B) the Knicks could land an all-star or superstar FA in their current state anyway.

As such, I thought I would look at which of their team option contracts they should keep/ decline, and then pick five reasonable FA targets for this offseason.

Decline option: Gibson, Ellington, Portis
50/ 50: Payton
Pick up: Bullock

FA targets:

Kris Dunn - Though an RFA, Bulls likely not to match any decent size deal. Not a great shooter, but above average floor general and defensive stud. 2+1 at $9-$10 per likely lands him.

Christian Wood - Don’t want to overpay for a guy who only hit radars after replacing the injured Griffin, but has put up strong performances every time he’s been given minutes. Has per 36 averages of 21.2 and 10.6, along with 1.5 steals and a block a game. His numbers with NO last year during his short stay as a starter suggest this year was not an anomaly.

Joe Harris - Knicks need shooting, and Joe offers it in spades. He’s fairly one dimensional, so $15+ a year seems like a reach. Nets are already into tax territory for next year, and while they’ve shown they’re not afraid to spend, Harris still may be a sacrifice.

Bryn Forbes - Good shooter and secondary ball handler, still young enough to fit the timeline, and also likely to be reasonably priced. More complete player than Trier, perfect for taking the role he had last year (not this one) .

Harry Giles - Bunch of talent, but health issues and logjam of frontcourt players in Sacramento likely spell doom this the Kings. May need to sign a one year “show me” contract, perfect guy to take a flyer on for the Knicks.

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1.) 10 Apr 2020 20:53:30
This is what I call realism.


 

 

16 Jan 2019 12:08:30
No way NO accepts that offer, and Dallas will not give up Doncic to get AD.

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13 May 2017 17:09:20
Spurs offseason

Personally, I don't think Tony's retiring, so I'm basing this post around him still being with the team:

1) Gasol declines $16M player option, resigns for 2 yrs, $22M ($11M AAV)

2) Ginobli staves off retirement for one more year, signs 1 yr, $5M

3) Lee opts in to player option

4) Dedmon declines player option and walks.

5) Mills walks

5) Spurs draft Mathais Lessort # 29, deal 2nd round pick for a future 2nd

6) Sign with cap space Kelly Olynik 2 yrs, $12.5M

7) Use vet exception on Shaun Livingston. If Warriors are most likely not going to have the ability to sign him. Him, Ginobli and Murray cover until Parker returns, and allows to play Parker less minutes once he's back.

8) Resign Simmons 3 yrs, $22M.

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1.) 16 May 2017 18:15:46
Celtics would match that offer for Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2017 16:58:22
Three team deal:

To CLE - Melo, Nelson

To DEN - Love, Rockets 2nd (via NYK)

To NYK - Faried, 2017 MEM 1st (via DEN), Shumpert

If Melo is going to waive his no trade,
Cleveland would be one of the few places he would agree to go. The Cavs also add a quality backup PG and clear about $5M of cap spend off their books to help with luxury tax payments.

Denver is looking for a star, and they get one in Love.

Knicks add a quality PF that would allow Zinger to spend more minutes at the five. A pick and a much needed wing defender also come New York's way.

Triangle O

1.) 22 Jan 2017 17:23:44
Have that 2nd rd pick from NY go to Cleveland instead


2.) 22 Jan 2017 20:21:15
This just makes Cavs worse and Nuggets get a steal. Cavs aren't going to shake things up this late and Love is better suited as a 3rd option than Melo and provides rebounding and passing. It took two entire seasons for Love to adjust to the role and I think it would be even worse for Melo. Yes they add a backup pg but the lose Shumpert and their wing depth is already weak with JR injured.


3.) 22 Jan 2017 21:06:45
Terrible trade for the Cavs. Love fits the Cavs far better than Melo, is younger, and makes less money. Shumpert is a better and younger player than Nelson and there are free agent point guards that are just as good as Nelson. Denver gives up almost nothing for Love.


 

 

24 Mar 2016 21:46:17
LeBron's dream scenario:

After LBJ's "Dream Team" comments, I looked around the NBA for a team that has the potential to make it happen. I came up with two possibilities, and both are below:

The LA Clippers

Paul is already there, so that takes care of one issue. To get Melo there would be easy, a Melo for Griffin deal or multi-team deal that moves Griffin out and Melo in.

Bron could get there via sign and trade, as Cleveland would most likely be willing to take back Jordan if LBJ forced the issue of an S&T.

Getting Wade is a bit more difficult, but again, if he requested an S&T from the Heat, and taking a pay cut to $10-$12M a year could work if the Heat have interest in J. J., which may not be far fetched. Both Wade and Melo's wives are Hollywood types, so living in L. A. would most likely be good with everyone.

Miami Heat

While it's crazy to think that LBJ would go back, it could be possible.

The Heat have approximately $45M to spend this offseason. If Wade and LBJ would be willing to split up $30M of that (Wade $12M, LBJ $18M), the Heat still have a decent amount of wiggle room.

To get Melo, I don't think it would be difficult to convince the Knicks to take a Melo for Dragic swap (some smaller pieces could or don't need to be added) .

Getting Paul is considerably more difficult. Two options are a multi team deal that sees Bosh and Winslow go out, Winslow to LAC, and Bosh to? That could stir up enough assets to send to LAC for Paul. The other option is just wait until next offseason for Paul and sign him (ETO for 17-18 season would need to be taken) .

I hate LBJ, so I don care to see him get what he wants, but thought it would be fun to run with his comments.

Thoughts?

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1.) 25 Mar 2016 00:31:14
Or kyrie for paul. Love to Celtics bkn pick to Knicks and Melo to cavs (bits and pieces will of course be included) . Trade shumpert and frye as a salary dump. Sign wade and resign lebron.


2.) 25 Mar 2016 01:08:15
League sucks if they allow players to pull this stuff again.


3.) 25 Mar 2016 01:45:43
If I was Jim buss, I would tell the league that the trades would be unfair and creating a super team. Espically if it's the cavs to let them know how they like it.


4.) 25 Mar 2016 13:35:18
The league's got to be about competitive balance, not team stacking. The league has to approve all trades and contracts. I don't know exactly how they would stop this but the word "collusion" comes to mind. Teams cannot collude so players should be able to either. What James, Wade and Bosh did in Miami was wrong. Lesson learned. It should never happen again.

I know its a "players' league. " But there has to be limitations.


5.) 25 Mar 2016 14:09:09
I agree.


6.) 25 Mar 2016 15:34:19
I guess the one way the league could stop this would be if the owners forced a lock-out. Besides the team getting all the stars, I can't see anyone other owner in the league allowing this to happen.

Its inverse tanking. They modified the draft so that teams couldn't tank and be guaranteed the top pick. Maybe they'll need to come up with a free agency equivalent.


7.) 25 Mar 2016 18:52:05
What would happen if your team drafted all the players and they turned to stars.


8.) 25 Mar 2016 19:30:37
Drafted? I'd be fine with that. There's no organized collusion in that case.
What Bron's talking about is collusion.


9.) 25 Mar 2016 22:41:27
You should look up the definition of collusion.

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

He isn't cheating or deceiving. He just wants to play with his friends. Take less money. Win championships. No one complained when he did it with miami 5 years ago. why is it an issue now? It won't happen. If it did, it simply shows a lack of confidence or ability to win on your opwn. Nothing illegal. look at duncan or nowitski, neiother makes what their actual worth is. they took payh cuts to sign better players. but that's fine. once lebron wants to do it, with 3 others, its an issue. when he did it with 2 others, nol biggie. come on, just let things happen.

besides, i'd still bet on the warriors beating them. remember when the lakers snagged payton and malone? howd that turn out?


10.) 26 Mar 2016 12:45:27
I should look up "collusion"? "It is an agreement among firms or individuals to divide a market, set prices, limit production or limit opportunities. "

And you know darn well exactly what I'm getting at- an organized attempt to upset the competitive balance in the league. Call it whatever you want. Its clearly against the best interest of the league.

As for your claim that nobody complained over the Miami thing, that's not correct. It was brought up in the Owners Meeting in which they discussed player-player tampering. That was reported in the NY Times.


 

 

 

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10 Feb 2022 01:26:27
How does this finally take them out of the basement?

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10 Feb 2022 01:24:51
No from Kings.

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07 Feb 2022 12:19:06
Quite the opposite Darry, apparently Gobert and Donovan’s relationship is soured again, and never was that good to begin with.

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07 Feb 2022 12:16:30
Fournier’’s value is more than a salary dump. He is shooting 40% from 3 and plays decent defence. He’s inconsistent, and not having as good a year this year as last, but he still has some value, especially when you look at some of the other guys who are making around $18M a year.

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07 Feb 2022 01:01:11
Agreed, if Knicks also put in a 1st or Quickley, then it’s a little better value for the Pacers. Deal is close, just not quite there.

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