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24 Jan 2020 17:41:59
Okc gets Porter Jr, Markkanen

Chicago gets Gallinari, Roberson, 2 firsts of their choice

ChurchPugh

1.) 24 Jan 2020 18:11:05
church why you are hurting okc. if those players were so good they would be winning in Chicago. maybe without the picks I consider.


2.) 24 Jan 2020 19:03:05
That’s not hurting Okc. Mark is probably a Gallo like player and on his rookie deal. Porter has size and immediately helps upgrade the wings.

Those picks can be DENVER and a protected one on top.


3.) 24 Jan 2020 19:12:06
Okc 2021 and latest Rockets pick?


4.) 25 Jan 2020 04:58:20
they would keep gallo then add picks they have already been offered al Horford and Zhaire Smith and a pick for gallo so no way is okc giving up pick idc if Roberson is in there or not it’s just not happening like I said once unless okc really gets what they like they would rather hold on to him and do a sign And trade next year okc is gunna get a very good return for him he is playing exceptionally well everyone that is a contender wants gallo he is a walking bucket getter I’d really like okc to keep him cause with the team okc has right now idc what anyone says they are about 2 good pieces away from being contenders if we had two more good scorers they would be set but they need to have some height to them and that can play good defense.


5.) 25 Jan 2020 11:05:57
I’m tired of people saying “They’ll just do a sign and trade”. The dude has made good money and will be an unrestricted free agent. If LA lakers stay as is, win, and offer him a one year vet min to win one, why not? Or if another team offers him similar money? Several teams will have money and could work out a one year deal with him. What reason does this sign and trade happen?


 

 

23 Jan 2020 14:45:27
According to Bleacher Report this morning, Dallas and Philly are two teams who have Danilo Gallinari on their radar.

If I'm OKC, I probably like Philly's trade pieces more than Dallas. Any Philly trade for Gallo would probably include Horford. I see two options. Take back Horford or find a third team to take him. So I came up with two trades that land Gallo in Philly while shipping out Horford.

1. OKC taking back Horford:

Okc gets Horford, Zhaire Smith, 2020 protected pick back
***They probably wouldn't lose the pick anyways as its top 20 protected, but this ensures they keep it. Horford reunites with Donovan and can help with an ailing Adams and Noel. He can also play alongside them and help improve D. Smith is in the G-League but is on a rookie deal and has some promise.

Philly gets Gallo, Roberson
***I could see Philly wanting Gallo as he provides so much space and could be an interesting fit with Embiid. If they did this, Dre would have to be thrown in to make salaries work, but I could see them attaching a second or something and flipping him to the Knicks for someone like Ellington or Gibson.

2. A third team takes Horford

Okc gets Nance, Dellavadova, Smith, their 2020 first back
***I like the idea of getting Nance who is younger than Horford and can grow with the team. Delly is expiring but could replace what you get from Ferg. Already spoke on Smith and pick. Retaining Dre allows them to do what Philly could've done in the previous deal: Try to convince the Knicks to take him with a second for Ellington or Gibson.

Philly gets Gallo, Henson
***This brings back Gallo but Henson as well. Henson could replace some of the D I guess and allows them more front court options. They don't have to take Dre.

Cavs get Horford, Ferguson, Burton
***Horford with Love could be a nice fit. I doubt they find a suitor for Love anyways, but this allows them to compliment him. Moving delly gives more minutes to Sexton and Garland. Ferg has shown he can play a role without putting up stats. Burton is filler but has shown glimpses in limited minutes.

ChurchPugh

1.) 23 Jan 2020 16:11:47
İf I was okc GM I wouldn't want okc pick back because it is top 20 protected. If it isn't convey this year it turns to two second. They should take sixer's first round pick. They can keep their pick and add one more to their collection.


2.) 23 Jan 2020 18:35:29
Horford>Gallo so why does Philly have to include a first? If anything, a pick like Denvers should be heading to Philly.


3.) 24 Jan 2020 04:42:54
No way is okc giving a pick to philly to get off gallo every contender will be wanting to give up a lot to have a guy like him


4.) 24 Jan 2020 08:08:53
Fredman, if Philly thinks that Horford (33 years old with 3 more years on his contract) is better than Gallo, then Philly should NOT be interested in trading Horford for Gallo at all since they’re competing for an NBA championship, no matter if someone throws in a 1st rounder or not.
It just wouldn’t make sense to do that if “Horford > Gallo”, right???

But what Churchpugh was referencing was the Bleacher report that said that Philly was interested. So if that HORRIBLE rumor mill trade reference called Bleacher Report is correct, what could Philly logicly offer for Gallo, if they don’t want to trade away a player that is better than Gallo?

Personally, I don’t think there is anything Philly can afford to give up that Okc would actually want and still get the salaries to work out.

Okc is completely fine with keeping Gallo this year and allowing his 22 mil to come off their books next year. Unless a team offers Okc a good trade for a Thunder player that helps that team compete for a championship this year, then Presti has no reason not to keep what he currently has for the rest of this season.


 

 

23 Jan 2020 12:15:58
Boston gets DeRozan, Aldridge, White, Metu

Spurs get Hayward, Smart, Theis, Kanter

ChurchPugh

1.) 23 Jan 2020 13:02:00
Boston is top 4 in the East. why would they want to rebuild the team in the middle of the season?


2.) 23 Jan 2020 13:26:18
Boston is not going to give up four of its top 7 players for DeRozen and Aldridge. Besides, DeRozen and Aldridge don't fit the Celtics' time line or their style of play. Bad mix. But -- Doesn't seem that White is on the rise in San Antonio, so maybe Boston could move a lesser piece (Langford? ) for him.


 

 

23 Jan 2020 11:52:38
Cavs get Roberson, Okc second, Spurs second

Spurs get Gallinari, Henson

Thunder get DeRozan, Lyles

Paul, Schroeder
SGA, Dort, Diallo
DeRozan, Ferguson
Lyles, Bazley
Adams, Noel

ChurchPugh

1.) 23 Jan 2020 13:08:03
If the Spurs decide to tank they can do better than this. and this trade is certainly not going to help them reach the playoffs.


2.) 23 Jan 2020 13:57:46
@wlndrapsfan, I see what you are saying, and here was my thought process. They have tons of 2 guards right now. They could very reasonably move one of them instead, but I think moving Demar makes a bit more sense if they can add bigs to offset the number of 2's. Both Gallo and Henson are expiring. I could see Henson not seeing a ton of minutes, but Gallo could open more room up for those other guys. He's played well.


3.) 24 Jan 2020 03:51:58
@ChurchPugh I just don't see the Spurs moving DeRozan without getting a nice future piece or a this year difference making piece. I don't see that deal out there for them, so it's either keep him or get some future value.


4.) 24 Jan 2020 03:52:42
but then again if I knew everything i'd have masai's job.


 

 

22 Jan 2020 13:46:33
Any chance the Cavs would do this?

Cavs get Roberson, two seconds

OKC gets Nance

Cavs would get out of his longterm money which could be nice while paying Love so much over the same period of time.

Thunder would get some much needed 4/5 depth and could allow Noel and Adams some rest. They'd add a bit of salary, but Nance's deal isn't too bad. I'm sure they could still duck the luxury line somehow.

ChurchPugh

1.) 22 Jan 2020 14:49:42
I doubt it. Love, TT and Henson could all end up getting moved. I don’t think the Cavs would want to flip all of their bigs and Nance makes the most sense to keep. 2 2nds just doesn’t feel like enough to make them reconsider.


2.) 22 Jan 2020 15:35:27
Then what about Henson for Dre and two seconds?


3.) 22 Jan 2020 16:05:25
Seems pretty reasonable.


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2020 18:27:41
Rumor has it that Bradley Beal is fed up with the Wizards. Go figure. Anyways, let's see your best Beal deal!

Atlanta?

OKC?

Boston?

Lakers?

Let's fire up those trade machines!

ChurchPugh

1.) 17 Jan 2020 19:01:29
Lakers? Lol. Don’t have picks, young talent.


2.) 17 Jan 2020 22:40:02
He can’t be traded until the offseason, so it’s hard to guess too much before the trade deadline goes and the season plays out.


3.) 18 Jan 2020 01:42:00
Probably OKC. Shroeder+Ferguson+ (cap space) +4 non-OKC picks (1 Denver, 1 Houston, 1 Clipper, 1 Miami)?


4.) 18 Jan 2020 15:10:21
Fredman, I think they’d have better offers than that. Those are some pretty underwhelming assets. It likely takes atleast one high end asset in package to get him.


5.) 18 Jan 2020 19:07:51
Ibaka+Anunoby+2 1sts for Beal.


6.) 18 Jan 2020 20:54:20
Ibaka can't be traded because he will be a UFA when Beal is able to be traded.


7.) 18 Jan 2020 23:59:21
If Murray struggles with nuggets in playoffs I see Murray bol bol and a pick.


 

 

08 Jan 2020 18:37:33
OK. Who bites on a Love deal? I think his value is wayyyy down... But maybe that makes a deal more likely? Cavs will want to move on, I bet, and I'm sure there is someone out there willing to buy low.

Bulls?

Wolves?

Wizards?

Knicks?

Personally, I'd love to see a Thunder deal as it could be a win-win for both sides.

Thunder get Love, 2nd rounder

Cavs get Gallo, Roberson, 2020 Denver 1st (Gallo would probably be flipped for another asset?)

Someone give me your best guess (assuming he gets traded at all).

ChurchPugh

1.) 08 Jan 2020 20:15:29
Love for Adams and denver pick.


2.) 09 Jan 2020 01:14:10
Adams in the anchor of the defense okc is winning because of defense. I don’t see trading for older more expensive Love helps the rebuild or this season.


3.) 09 Jan 2020 04:29:13
Gotta ask yourself what does OKC have that Cleveland would like? Draft picks and SGA, that's about it. There are teams like Boston who probably have more desirable assets than OKC.


 

 

01 Jan 2020 17:20:19
Rumor has it Phoenix really likes a Gallo trade. So!

Give me your best Gallo to the Suns deal!


Annnnnnnnd..... GO!

ChurchPugh

1.) 01 Jan 2020 19:19:25
Gallo for T. Johnson + 2020 first (top 20 protected, not conveyed then 2021 first top 20 protected, not conveyed 2022+2023 second round picks)


2.) 01 Jan 2020 21:11:22
Fredman i feel like they should get a better pick than top 20 protected. Maybe top 12 protected lottery protected at most. But Johnson and a 1st of some kind seems bout right.


3.) 02 Jan 2020 03:10:36
Its really hard to give up anything of value for a 4 month rental. Especially if Phoenix doesn't make the playoffs.


4.) 02 Jan 2020 20:32:17
Gallo for Johnson Bridges and a 2nd.


 

 

25 Dec 2019 09:45:21
Merry Christmas to all in this community!

ChurchPugh

1.) 25 Dec 2019 14:06:01
Merry Christmas.


2.) 25 Dec 2019 18:19:12
Merry christmas!


 

 

11 Dec 2019 13:32:04
The more I consider potential deals, the Okc Thunder to me are the weirdest team (outside of the Knicks this year) . They could be sellers of course.

Potential players to be moved:
Paul
Gallinari
Adams
Roberson (expiring)
Noel
Maybe more

They could also end up being buyers as they currently sit in the playoff race and may not like offers on the above players. They have plenty of picks and assets. A playoff run after having the fan base sell off their franchise guys could be huge for the team.

What are some deals?

ChurchPugh

1.) 11 Dec 2019 15:25:26
Bazemore and a first for Gallinari seems like a likely move. Maybe throw in Trent and Noel too?


2.) 11 Dec 2019 18:20:14
The chances of them being buyers are very slim. Everything Presti is saying is pointing to rebuild. The only way they go for it is if they trade Gallo very soon they are still winning looking like a playoff team and can't get good trades for Schroder, Adams, Paul. If gallo is the only 1 they trade and they are still winning then they may go for it at the trade deadline, but they still won't give up a lot of assets to become winners.


 

 

 

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25 Jan 2020 11:05:57
I’m tired of people saying “They’ll just do a sign and trade”. The dude has made good money and will be an unrestricted free agent. If LA lakers stay as is, win, and offer him a one year vet min to win one, why not? Or if another team offers him similar money? Several teams will have money and could work out a one year deal with him. What reason does this sign and trade happen?

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24 Jan 2020 19:03:05
That’s not hurting Okc. Mark is probably a Gallo like player and on his rookie deal. Porter has size and immediately helps upgrade the wings.

Those picks can be DENVER and a protected one on top.

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23 Jan 2020 13:57:46
@wlndrapsfan, I see what you are saying, and here was my thought process. They have tons of 2 guards right now. They could very reasonably move one of them instead, but I think moving Demar makes a bit more sense if they can add bigs to offset the number of 2's. Both Gallo and Henson are expiring. I could see Henson not seeing a ton of minutes, but Gallo could open more room up for those other guys. He's played well.

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22 Jan 2020 15:35:27
Then what about Henson for Dre and two seconds?

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21 Jan 2020 13:06:48
A straightup swap of Roberson for Dedmon also works, but it would mean okc taking on a bit more salary. If OKC was willing to do Dre and Schroeder for Dedmon and Joseph, that would also work financially, but I'd hate to see Dennis go. Especially for that. Thoughts?

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