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13 Nov 2019 22:02:46
Miami gets Paul, Denver pick

Charlotte gets Dragic

Okc gets Rozier, Johnson

ChurchPugh

1.) 13 Nov 2019 22:17:44
Rozier for dragic?


 

 

12 Nov 2019 13:36:41
Okc gets Porter, Saric

Chicago gets Johnson, Roberson, Denver 2020 first (Okc)

Phoenix gets Gallinari, Valentine

ChurchPugh

1.) 12 Nov 2019 18:34:02
OKc is not giving up there picks in the 2020 draft there tryna get young talent to develop


2.) 12 Nov 2019 18:34:57
And okc is gunna get a first for gallo easy


3.) 12 Nov 2019 20:32:29
I get it. I’m a Thunder fan. However, I doubt that they keep all the picks. And that Denver pick isn’t super valuable by the seasons end. I’d rather have Saric who’s still on a rookie deal. bc you can match any offer once he becomes a RFA. I’m not going to lie. I’d love a pick for Gallo and he’s definitely worth one. But I see Saric as an equivalent. This also ducks the tax.


4.) 13 Nov 2019 03:35:25
The longer okc holds out, the more value they'll get for Gallinari. If he doesn't get hurt, and that's always a big "if".


 

 

09 Nov 2019 21:05:17
Dallas gets CP3, Hutchinson, 2 seconds (Thunder)
***I hear they're interested in a Paul deal and they make sense. Paul can help space and distribute. He won't take too many minutes and they retain Brunson as a backup.

Chicago gets Gallinari, Lee, Roberson, Jackson, 2 firsts (Thunder)
***They bring in $40M+ in expiring and add a couple picks in hopes of enticing Davis next summer.

Okc gets Porter, Hardaway, Lavine
***They dump Paul, can send out two of their lesser firsts, add some usable bodies, continue a youth movement, and duck the luxury.

SGA, Schroeder
Lavine, Diallo
Hardaway, Ferguson
Porter, Bazley
Adams, Noel

ChurchPugh

1.) 09 Nov 2019 21:52:34
Not getting Lavine + Porter out of Chicago. More likely Porter + Thad Young. can't give up Lavine in case AD stays in LA.


2.) 10 Nov 2019 02:26:32
Freeman- Lavigne isn’t good or a winner.


3.) 10 Nov 2019 11:12:47
19.5/ 4/ 4 is not good? Its too good to just salary dump.

Who is buying tickets next year if Lavine is gone and the Bulls do not sign AD?


4.) 10 Nov 2019 13:02:59
Awful trade for OKC. OKC will, at least, get a first rounder for Gallinari by himself. Presti is too smart to give up all those picks to dump Paul when he can just keep him for a couple years.


5.) 10 Nov 2019 13:59:04
LaVine has played for two bad franchises. How can we know if he’s a winner?


6.) 10 Nov 2019 22:10:05
Lavine a cheaper Wiggins?


 

 

09 Nov 2019 11:33:02
December deal

Okc gets Valanciunas, Iguodala
Memphis gets Adams, Roberson

ChurchPugh

1.) 09 Nov 2019 17:13:40
And a pick going to Memphis.


2.) 10 Nov 2019 02:27:56
Memphis needs young cheap talent or shooting.


3.) 10 Nov 2019 13:06:37
OKC is keeping Adams and they've made it known. He's only 26.


4.) 11 Nov 2019 16:57:00
How u going to get a pick when Iggy done want to be there he wants a buyout and Memphis won’t do it so yea u can forget Memphis getting a pick


 

 

08 Nov 2019 01:52:32
Okc gets Porter, Hardaway
Mavs get Paul, Gafford, Denver 1st
Bulls get Lee, Roberson, Jackson

-Thunder unload Paul and beef up the wings.
-Mavs get a big name, spacing, and a pick.
-Bulls get a little cap space to begin the Davis chase of summer 2020.

ChurchPugh

1.) 08 Nov 2019 20:56:36
OKC - TOR

Toronto get: Steven Adams

thunder get: Gasol and a future first rounder


2.) 08 Nov 2019 22:11:11
Straight up or 2nd round pick. no first.


 

 

 

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24 Oct 2019 22:55:35
If Miami wants to keep Bam and Herro + get a pick(s)... what about something like this?

Miami gets Paul, Schroeder, Roberson, Hernangomez, 1st via Charlotte
-They get Paul who should be fun in Miami (if he's healthy). Schroeder is a bad contract but should be nice Paul insurance should he miss time. Dre could be a good D wing plus a big expiring. This brings a first for taking on Paul + gives their cap a haircut. They can sign a minimum guy to fill out the roster.

Charlotte gets Dragic, Johnson, Leonard
-They offload that bad Batum contract. Dragic and Leonard combine for $30M in expiring money. But this also brings in some toughness and playmaking that the Hornets desperately needs along with a much needed change up.

Thunder get Batum, Winslow, Waiters, Kidd-Gilchrist
-Paul just doesn't fit here and doesn't deserve this at this point in his career. They swap one bad contract for another, but pickup some wing enforcements in the process. Winslow can be the backup point and Shai can start. They move Paul without giving a pick.

Shai, Winslow, Burton
Ferguson, Diallo, Waiters
Batum, MKG, Nader
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

ChurchPugh

1.) 25 Oct 2019 00:47:32
Only good for the Thunder.


2.) 25 Oct 2019 02:10:44
Miami also wants to keep Winslow.

OKC is not going to get anything "positive" for Chris Paul besides some expiring deals. Not unless he starts posting double-doubles every night.


 

 

01 Aug 2019 18:14:32
Okc bought out Patterson and could stretch whatever is left to duck the luxury tax. Might be done making moves.

Patterson signing with Clips.

ChurchPugh

1.) 10 Aug 2019 14:24:16
They aren't done making moves they still have to fill 1 more roster spot before the start of the season. which would put them a lil over the luxury tax again. But after signing someone they could wait till Dec 15 to start making more moves to get below tax.


 

 

23 Jul 2019 23:31:55
This is thinking a little too far ahead, but AD has done two things to make him a flight risk next summer:

1. Not commit to more time in LA verbally or contractually.
2. Mention how he'd love to play in Chicago.

Chicago would be elated to land a guy of that caliber, but where is the. So space to land him? They'll have little to none. They'd have to chase expiring deals in trades in order to pull off a max slot. Here are some teams I think would be willing to play ball in trades with expiring contracts significant enough:

1. Okc (Gallinari at $22M, Roberson at $10M, Patterson at $5M)
2. Charlotte (Biyombo at $17M, Williams at $15M, MKG at $13M)
3. Atlanta (Parsons at $25M, Turner and Crabbe at $18M each)
4. Toronto (Lowry at $34M, Gasol at $25M, Ibaka at $23M)

There may be others, but I see these as the most likely (in that order) who could give them the cap space they will crave if they think they can legitimately land Davis next summer.

Sorry that was long winded, but with that in mind what kind of deals could you see to land significant cap space next summer for the Windy City?

ChurchPugh

1.) 24 Jul 2019 16:30:44
Church -- Do you think that AD is concerned that he will be left all alone if James suddenly runs out of gas, and is leaving himself an escape hatch? If James goes south, Davis might find himself in the same situation he was in in New Orleans.


2.) 24 Jul 2019 16:48:46
Actually worse situation because at least he would have Jrue Holiday and Zion Williamson to play with.


3.) 24 Jul 2019 20:14:04
Fredman- and no picks.


4.) 25 Jul 2019 08:30:34
LA screwed themselves
They should have kept Russell and drafted Tatum, Mitchell or Markannen

C:Zubac
PF:Randle
SF:Tatum
SG:Ingram
PG:Russell
sixth: Clarckson.


5.) 26 Jul 2019 09:28:11
Does AD need to make an All-NBA team in order to get a higher max extension?


6.) 26 Jul 2019 15:14:56
Yeah, to get a supermax, you have to be all nba the most recent season, or both of the two before it. He wasn't all nba in '18-'19, so he'd have to be all nba next year to receive it.


7.) 26 Jul 2019 16:21:02
Probably waiting for this season's results to see if he qualifies.


 

 

12 Jul 2019 03:21:05
It happened.

Paul and picks for Russ

So now, do these two teams stand pat or what moves are coming? Rockets need to trim the roster (I think)... but they look good.

Thunder could/should flip CP3, if they can find a suitor. But who wants that contract??

Any predictions on what happens next for these two squads??

ChurchPugh

1.) 12 Jul 2019 16:47:06
Thunder should keep CP3, other teams would want a pick for his contract. The Thunder have time, Paul hasn't. So CP3 would ask for a buyout himself.


2.) 12 Jul 2019 17:11:22
I think there's a really good chance that Houston absolutely falls on their face. Either be a decent regular season team and get destroyed in the playoffs, or just fail in the regular season and get a 7-10 seed in the west.

OKC is in fire sale mode. They have to hope that the Lakers or Heat take Paul for expiring deals. Then hope Roberson comes back healthy and they can offload him at the trade deadline for assets. Move Gallo at some point for longer deals+assets or expiring deals+lesser assets. Same with Adams.


3.) 15 Jul 2019 17:54:38
I think they work fine like Paul and harden did. Maybe not excellent every night but they will be fun to watch. There going to have russ do the same Paul did but drive instead of shoot. It's worth the risk for Houston.


 

 

12 Jun 2019 21:16:08
If Okc were to hit the reset button and deal Russ and PG, what's the best return they could get?

I was thinking Russ to the Bulls with Okc gaining Markkanen and a pick kind of deal, and George to the Hawks for Crabbe, Bazemore, and picks 8 and 10 kind of deal.

Thoughts? Gives Okc a good place to start a rebuild, gives the Bulls a superstar and an identity, and gives the Hawks a guy who could help open their championship window for the foreseeable future.

ChurchPugh

1.) 12 Jun 2019 23:52:02
Mine as well trade Adams too.


2.) 13 Jun 2019 00:18:09
Not Markannen.


3.) 13 Jun 2019 00:19:22
Russ to Lakers for 4th. Pg to utah.


4.) 13 Jun 2019 01:43:00
PG to Lakers for 4th and Ingram. Westbrook to Heat.


 

 

 

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13 Nov 2019 17:02:24
I doubt they move Noel. He’s playing fantastic and super cheap. I’d rather move Adams at this point.

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13 Nov 2019 14:27:17
Get this done yesterday for both teams!

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12 Nov 2019 20:32:29
I get it. I’m a Thunder fan. However, I doubt that they keep all the picks. And that Denver pick isn’t super valuable by the seasons end. I’d rather have Saric who’s still on a rookie deal. bc you can match any offer once he becomes a RFA. I’m not going to lie. I’d love a pick for Gallo and he’s definitely worth one. But I see Saric as an equivalent. This also ducks the tax.

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12 Nov 2019 13:26:30
SGA is going nowhere.

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07 Nov 2019 10:15:52
Ok so my reasoning is all about opening up a max slot in Chicago this summer in the hopes of AD signing there. Davis loves playing the 4. Moving Markkanen makes sense if AD comes and allows them to keep picks as to add another guy later. Only so many teams have big expiring deals. Okc would die to add Markkanen to their core.

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