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01 Apr 2020 14:29:23
I love the idea of putting CP3 in Philly. He has shown he can play off ball and differ to others. He's also a good shooter and can allow Simmons to start at the 3 and or 4 and still run the offense if they so choose. $ is a bit complicated but I think a 3rd team added to facilitate could help.

Philly gets CP3, Layman, Ferguson, Muscala
***See above. Also, they add ok shooters on cheaper contracts.

Wolves get Richardson and Milton
***Wolves currently are rebuilding a bit around KAT by adding DLo and Beasley. They can slot in a 3 to go with that in Richardson who is still on a crazy good deal and is a great glue guy. They do this to try and expedite their rebuild.

Okc gets Harris, Culver, Korkmaz
***For OKC to complete this, I assume they have to move a pick or two. That was the situation when they first got Paul, but they do it now bc it's not just a salary dump. They replace his scoring with Harris which slides SGA into the starting point. Culver is a nice young player to add to their core.

Thoughts? Where do OKC's picks need to go and how many/which ones?

ChurchPugh

1.) 01 Apr 2020 14:51:28
Trying to figure out how Culver and Layman yield Richardson and Milton?


2.) 01 Apr 2020 15:34:52
Okc can have horford not Harris.


 

 

14 Mar 2020 18:48:09
I may be way off in terms of cap rules. And I'm probably going to be told this is a BS deal, but here goes. A deal this summer:

Minny gets CP3, Muscala
***KAT and D-Lo are in place and now the Wolves look for a true locker room leader. Paul is older but gives the team what Karl and Russell can't: leadership and culture. Look at what Paul has done for a Thunder squad that was counted out before the season even began. I'd dare say this would be a solid big 3 with room to grow. With multiple big salaries expiring, I think money wise this could work...

Thunder get James Johnson, Culver
***Johnson is a negative contract... but they'd cut almost $20M with this deal. They could slide SGA over to the point and start Culver. Johnson could be a bench guy and then maybe be a valuable expiring contract the following year (for teams chasing a chance at Giannis the following summer). Thunder could comfortably resign Gallo and chase a FA like maybe a DeRozan or something as a bridge player who needs a fresh start with lowered expectations.

SGA, Schroeder
Culver, Diallo
(DeRozan), Ferguson
Gallo, Bazley
Adams, Draft/Noel

ChurchPugh

1.) 14 Mar 2020 19:56:54
Money is not close to working.

Not one chance Minnesota does this even if the money worked.


2.) 14 Mar 2020 22:02:17
DLo and CP3 in the same back court? Not seeing it.

Because the salaries in the trade don't match, you created the cap space that would be used to sign DeRozen. So you would be taking that off the table as well.


 

 

05 Mar 2020 19:01:33
There's a little rumor that just dropped on Bleacher Report that the Knicks are "gathering intel" on Chris Paul for a potential run at a trade this summer.

What would a potential deal look like?

Who wins in that deal?

Why would either side do it?

Thanks!

ChurchPugh

1.) 05 Mar 2020 19:13:45
Second round pick and salary relief.


2.) 05 Mar 2020 19:14:24
Add randle.


3.) 05 Mar 2020 19:18:33
The Knicks would likely have cap space (if they waive Portis, Gibson, Ellington, Payton, and Bullock) to absorb his salary without sending anything back. Or those guys could be packaged to be traded and potentially waived, as they all have little or no guaranteed salary. Not sure about deadlines on picking up their guarantees, but either way, the Knicks don't need to send matching salary.

The Knicks do it because they're the Knicks. They need names, even if it's to the detriment of the team.

OKC does it to get out of a really bad contract and to move on to their youth full time. If they can get back no contracts back from Paul, it frees up a lot of flexibility in trades.

For what is involved in the trade. Maybe Knox and the 2023 Dallas first? I can't see NY giving up much more than that.


4.) 06 Mar 2020 00:40:51
Bmiller- why does okc need youth movement. If they can win some rebuild with what 6 firsts over next three years. Get the guts in games that matter.


5.) 06 Mar 2020 13:03:32
Now they are saying they want to bring Melo back too! Crazy!


6.) 06 Mar 2020 15:58:28
OKC can’t win it all as constructed. They don’t have the top end talent, especially when Paul declines, which isn’t far off looking at his age. They’re a minimum of one superstar short of competing.

If OKC doesn’t go a major youth movement around SGA, they’re going to just continue the Westbrook era of first round exists for the next 5-7 years.

6 firsts over 3 years are nice, but are any of those in the lottery if they consistently make the 7 or 8 seed? So 6 picks in the 16-30 range. That gets you 3 role players and 3 busts most likely. That just continues the mediocrity.


7.) 06 Mar 2020 18:09:47
what if Paul recruits Melo to thunder to replace gallo.


 

 

05 Mar 2020 11:50:59
How's this for weird.

Houston gets Wiggins, Draymond

Golden State gets Russ, Tucker

Houston gets a great small ball 5 and a scorer. Warriors surround Russ with crazy good shooting.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 05 Mar 2020 12:30:29
I don’t think either team has much interest.


 

 

04 Mar 2020 13:17:27
I think this would be wild...

Houston gets Adams, Gallo (s&t)
***If the small ball rockets crash and burn in the playoffs, this gets them a way more traditional lineup. Gallo can get his money. Adams can be surrounded with shooters.

Warriors get McLemore, Okc 2nd
***Merely facilitating.

OKC gets Russ, Jones
***Russ returns to OKC! He is still loved like crazy here. He would be with a few more shooters, and maybe he and CP3 can make it work. They'd be throwing crazy money at two guys who play the same position. But it's a wildly fun hypothetical. Resign Noel who can start.

CP3, Schroeder
Russ, Diallo
Dort, Ferguson
Bazley, Draft
Noel, Jones

ChurchPugh

1.) 04 Mar 2020 16:53:43
What happened to SGA in this scenario? Sent to G League?


2.) 04 Mar 2020 19:05:24
My bad! He’s the starting 3.


3.) 04 Mar 2020 22:37:24
Cant combine a player with a S&T'd player.


 

 

 

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07 Mar 2020 00:40:19
Knicks are interested in a Paul trade this summer. They could offer Randle, Portis, Ellington, mayyyybe a couple seconds or something.... but what if OKC tries to pry away something different?

Fill in the blank.

In a Chris Paul to New York deal, it would take _____ picks you the Knicks for OKC to get RJ Barrett back instead of Ellington.

SGA, Schroeder
Ferguson, Dort
Barrett, Diallo
Randle, Bazley
Adams, Portis

ChurchPugh

1.) 07 Mar 2020 19:55:36
3 or 4.


 

 

02 Mar 2020 02:40:09
Not a rumor, but a fun hypothetical. Which of the Big 3 OKC Thunder players is more likely to have a reunion with the team AND (assuming it comes via trade) what should the deal look like?

Examples:

Okc gets Russ
Rockets get CP3

Okc gets KD
Nets get Adams, Schroeder, 3 firsts

Okc gets Harden
Rockets get Adams, Schroeder, 3 firsts

Thoughts? Ideas? For what it's worth, I don't see any happening, but it's an interesting thought.

ChurchPugh

1.) 02 Mar 2020 14:54:07
Interesting thought? No, not really.


 

 

15 Feb 2020 11:30:53
Draft night last year Okc picked Brandon Clarke and then dealt him for Darius Bazley. Bazley doesn't look horrible, but Clarke looks like a massive steal. Wish we had kept him.

Here's my question. If we had kept Clarke would that have made Gallinari MORE likely to be traded, or would we have still kept him?

Paul, Schroeder
SGA, Diallo
Dort, Ferguson
Gallinari, Clarke
Adams, Noel

ChurchPugh

1.) 15 Feb 2020 15:53:08
Keep. FO seems yo be about the playoff push. Get farther than where Westbrook could take them.


 

 

11 Feb 2020 16:51:46
I have a quick question. I don't know much about the restrictions of the stretch provision. Currently the Thunder are utilizing it for Kyle Singler's contract. Getting under the tax is still something I can see them chasing. If they can use in this year, why not use it on Andre Roberson? They can space it over several years moving forward and it would allow the following:

1. Stretch Dre.
2. Convert Dort's contract and reward him with an extension as well. A 4 year standard rookie deal would be a nice bump for him and a great bargain for the Thunder.
3. Take a flyer on Waiters. Lakers make plenty of sense for him, but OKC could offer a bit more after stretching Dre and could offer him some minutes off the bench.
4. If Taj Gibson becomes a buyout, waive Burton. Sign Gibson.

Paul, Schroder, Waiters
SGA, Diallo, Nader
Dort, Ferguson, Roby
Gallinari, (Bazley), Gibson
Adams, Noel, Muscala

***This roster could be possible with a Dre stretch while still avoiding the tax. They can give Waiters/Gibson minutes and provide Paul, Gallo, Adams with much needed rest days to get them playoff ready.

Thoughts? I feel like this is all doable. Waiters and Gibson have been with OKC previously, so there's a relationship there.

ChurchPugh

1.) 11 Feb 2020 20:40:15
Stretch has no restrictions that I know of. When you waive a player, you can stretch their salary of any remaining years to double the existing years plus 1.

Roberson wouldn't be able to be stretched because he's on an expiring contract. Only additional years can be stretched.


2.) 12 Feb 2020 02:00:44
The key is that it only stretches REMAINING years. So it does absokutely nothing for Roberson at this stage of the season.


3.) 12 Feb 2020 03:28:58
The only hope for OKC to get under the luxury tax this year is to trade Burton to Knicks for cash considerations after the season ends and before the nrw season begins so that yhe Knicks can waive his 2020 nom guarenteed salary before the deadline.

Things to consider. Knicks have to have an empty roster spot to take on Burton. Also, have to beat other teams who are looking to cut salary at the end of the year. Knicks are the only team with available cap space at the moment (and its not really much) .


 

 

11 Feb 2020 13:40:19
I know that OKC has previously used the stretch provision on Kyle singler and have like another year or so that his adjusted money is on the books. Can a team use the stretch provision a second time under the circumstances? If so.

-Stretch Roberson
-Give Dort a proper 4 year deal
-Cut Burton
-Sign Waiters, Gibson (if bought out)

They get under the tax via the stretch and get some vets who can provide depth and allow them to rest Paul, Gallo, Adams down the stretch.

Paul, Schroeder, Waiters
SGA, Diallo, Nader
Dort, Ferguson, Roby
Gallinari, (Bazley), Gibson
Adams, Noel, Muscala

ChurchPugh

1.) 12 Feb 2020 02:01:56
Cant stretch Roberson because he doesn't have any REMAINING years left on his contract.


 

 

 

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26 Mar 2020 11:48:06
If he wants out and the wiz don’t insist on attaching Wall to any trade, I think it’s very plausible.

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25 Mar 2020 11:46:37
Ok what if he doesn’t give a list of teams but gives the indication he won’t come back? Who has the best/ most assets to go get him? To me if the above is true, you have to at least mention okc who went and got PG in a similar situation. They have assets galore.

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07 Mar 2020 14:25:47
Fill in the blank.

In a Chris Paul to New York trade, RJ Barrett is included in the deal if the Thunder included _____ first round picks.

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06 Mar 2020 13:03:32
Now they are saying they want to bring Melo back too! Crazy!

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04 Mar 2020 19:05:24
My bad! He’s the starting 3.

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