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14 May 2021 13:50:35
Since Shizzee thinks majority of this years draft prospects compares to Hall of famers

Magic - Barrett
Knicks - #8 (via Bulls)

Wizards - Quickley
Knicks - #11

Spurs - Robinson
Knicks - #12

Here you go shizzee, 5 1st rounders for your future 5 hall of famers including your "CP3 with Morant athleticism" (Mitchell) and "future top 5 rim defender of all time with Mutombo & Gobert" (Badji)

Should win multiple rings

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12 May 2021 05:27:30
Did it ever happen in the history that the 7th and 8th seed beat both 1st and 2nd seed in the playoffs?

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12 May 2021 16:55:56
Yes. Since the expansion of 6 to 8 teams in 82-83 10 teams have eliminated the 1st and 2nd seed, most recently the 2017 Pacers.

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12 May 2021 17:00:30
No, and it won’t happen this year either. I can see the Lakers upsetting whoever they play, but I wouldn’t bet on it. I can’t see GS doing it, especially if they play Utah.

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12 May 2021 20:02:18
1994 Nuggets (8) beat Seattle (1) overcoming a 2-0 deficit.

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13 May 2021 05:41:15
1999 Knicks (8) beat Heat (1).

Do not think that there has ever been a playoffs where the #1 AND #2 seeds lost in the first round of the playoffs.

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13 May 2021 11:02:11
Biggie he talking about the same year. did a first and second seed lose to 7th and 8th.

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13 May 2021 14:00:37
Not in the same year to my recollection.

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13 May 2021 16:06:34
He saying the lakers/ portland warriors could beat the suns and jazz in first round.

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13 May 2021 17:36:11
Who is "He"?

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13 May 2021 20:46:47
“He” is the original poster. He asked if both the 7 and 8 seeds have won in a year. The answer is no.

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14 May 2021 01:25:55
BMiller, maybe it depends on Donovan Mitchell's status. Warriors have a decent chance of beating the Jazz without him.

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14 May 2021 21:55:42
Even without Mitchell, I wouldn’t give the Warriors much of a chance. Small chance though, sure.

Their depth is amazing though. Bogdanovic can jump to the first or second scorer and they don’t lose a lot.

Utah has probably 5 of the top 7 players between the two rosters without Mitchell. 6 of 8 with him. Same could probably be said about Utah vs Lakers.

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15 May 2021 09:01:12
Will your faith with the Jazz winning a chip finally come this season? We'll see. It's exciting. These western conference battles will be fire. Jokic vs Doncic looks like a lock. Blazers/ Lakers vs Clippers could happen. Lakers vs Warriors play-in. Time for Phoenix and Jazz to test if they are championship contenders.

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15 May 2021 18:55:45
If Denver wins against Portland and Lakers win out. so it’s not a lock with joker and doncic. Right now it’s Leonard verse doncic.

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12 May 2021 03:42:47
Where does MPJ rank on your MIP list?
Has to be top 3

Year 1
9/5/1 on 51/42

Year 2
19/7/1 on 55/45

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12 May 2021 05:29:59
behind Randle and Jeremi Grant at least. Probably would put Christian Wood slightly ahead of MPJ.

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12 May 2021 12:25:01
Boucher has had similar progressions. 7/ 5/ 0 on 47/ 32/ 78 to 14/ 7/ 1 on 51/ 38/ 71, as well as doubling his blocked shots.

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12 May 2021 14:00:50
He doesn’t make the list for me. He was clearly making the leap the second half of last year (averaged 22 and 9 in the bubble) .

I also just don’t like second year players in the running for MIP. MIP is for abnormal jump in career arc. This feels slightly above Porter’s expected career arc, not way over.

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12 May 2021 15:55:56
Idk how y’all don’t put him top 3. I can put Randle ahead of him. All the other players are putting up inflated numbers on the worst teams in basketball. MPJ has been the 2nd option since Murray and has been playing amazing. 2nd year players as 2nd option for a top 4 West team.


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12 May 2021 16:00:21
Outside of Ingram last year the past 6/ 7 MIP players were on a playoff team. Not bottom of the nba with inflated stats.

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12 May 2021 19:04:49
I think Randle deserves it as no one was expecting him to make that leap. Boucher, MPJ, Grant's etc., were all to some extent expected.

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12 May 2021 19:17:03
@nba16. You make an assumption that players on non-playoff teams=inflated stats.

Was Lebron's stats 2 years ago "inflated" when the Lakers were not in the playoffs? Not likely since they fall into line with stats from previous and post playoff seasons.

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12 May 2021 21:43:20
How can Lebron have inflated stats? His stats are the same every year lolll, they didn’t improve that year.

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13 May 2021 01:00:44
I assumption is players on bottom 5 teams can have inflated stats yes.

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13 May 2021 05:31:05
@NBA16. So are SGA's stats this year (bottom 5 team) "inflated" compared to last year's stats (playoff team)? I would say no because the departure of Chris Paul has probably created more opportunities this season for SGA. Additionally, if you dive into the numbers, you will see that SGA's shooting percentages significantly increased over the last season which then leads to a significant increase in points scored. SGA stats "inflated" not because he was on a bottom 5 team, but because SGA performed better given more opportunity.

And isn't that pretty much the definition of "improvement"?

Your assumption is based in generalization which is just lazy reasoning/ analysis. You have to delve into each players stats to determine the true reason for their "improvement". Some will fit your definition of "inflated" (more shots/ mins at a lower shooting percentage or lower efficiency? ), some definitely will not.

But I get it. Doing research is not "fun" for you. SMH.

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13 May 2021 11:04:23
No there health is the difference. Lebron got hurt his first year in la and sga Is hurt now. So you can’t compare someone good year to a hurt year.

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13 May 2021 13:09:19
Yes Fredman I don’t think anyone cares about this website much to research everything before every post😂 you can actually argue SGA stats are inflated. They lost 2 of their playmakers/ shotcreators (CP3 and Schroder) The thunder is filled with all rookies or young players. SGA is the only proven player (Dort wasn’t proven on the offensive end) SGA is the only threat on that thunder team. His %’s look better because he has only played 35 games this season. Numbers look better in smaller game samples. Thunder has not other shot creators, Pistons has no other shot creators (Bey is spot up)

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13 May 2021 13:52:41
Fred, insulting II and ddrainr I can understand, but insulting NBA16 is going too far.

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13 May 2021 15:55:31
Just a friendly argument Darry.

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13 May 2021 17:57:14
I know, just a friendly joke too xD.

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13 May 2021 18:55:37
Also inflated numbers are usually players who are the number 1 options on bottom tier teams who would usually just be a 2-4 option on playoff teams.

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13 May 2021 20:11:36
@NBA16. Now you are trying to compare apples and oranges. So Lebron's current numbers become "inflated" the moment he moves to a team and becomes the 3rd option? Harden's Houston stats are "inflated" now that Harden is not the primary option in Brooklyn?

Perhaps you are not being very clear on what are the requirements to be classified as "inflated" as well as the requirements to be classified as "improvement".

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13 May 2021 23:06:20
I don’t understand where you’re coming from with that comment. Superstars like Lebron and Harden can never have inflated numbers? They’re always contending. They have the same stats every year pretty much. Difference between being a top 3 option with the other two options being all star players and being a top option on a bottom tier team with your other “top 2 options” being rookies or above average players. Grant doesn’t average his stats on a playoff team (as you see by his years with the Nuggest) has he improved? Yes but not nearly as much as his stats suggest, he just puts up a ton more shots being the number 1 option on a horrible team.

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11 May 2021 14:00:56
Let's see if me and Freeman's team can make a deal

Kings get pick 3 in lottery

Cade/Mobley are gone

Take Green at 3

Kings - Valanciunas Melton Anderson and 2nds (might can add Utah's 1st instead)

- Gets their big man and 2 really good bench players for a depth needing team. Most likely

Grizzlies - Hield and Bagley

- Gets their 2nd scorer. Bagley can potentially reach his potential in new change. Would fit good with JJJ & Clarke with their defense abilities



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11 May 2021 15:02:18
Meant to put most likely won’t pick up Bagleys option anyways*.

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11 May 2021 15:58:16
Kings would most likely trade down from #3 (OKC or ORL 2 picks) or take Suggs and package Halliburton and Wright for a quality big/ picks.

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11 May 2021 13:21:50
Is Russell Westbrook overrated or underrated?

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11 May 2021 16:03:07
Current Westbrook?

Depends on how you rate him.

Was the Big-O over/ under rated?

Personally, I see him as a #3 on a championship team, but doubt Westbrook is willing to see himself as such.

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11 May 2021 18:06:41
Current or career, your choice.

Oscar was overrated, solely because outside of his only TD season he was subpar. He peaked out @ age 27.

Russ is an incredible athlete, he can play all 5 positions on any giving day.

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11 May 2021 20:15:23
which do you want more?

Someone who can play all 5 positions?


Someone who can lead their team to the playoffs?

I want the latter and Westbrook has not been able to do that while a Luka has done that and a Ja Morant is probably closer to doing it. Kemba Walker (Charlotte) better?

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11 May 2021 20:16:45
Westbrook is complicated. Talent wise, he’s properly rated I think.

His ego, mentality, and BBIQ has always been the question. I think those things hold him back when the playoffs come around. He said it himself, “I only know how to play one way”. And that’s not a good thing.

He’s great. He’s a hall of famer. And I wouldn’t want him on my team.

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11 May 2021 20:56:20
I don't know but one thing for sure, need to appreciate what he's done.

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12 May 2021 05:33:04
@BMiller. The only reason that Westbrook makes the HOF is because of the creation and tracking on "triple doubles". if you take that away, Westbrook only gets into the HOF after buying an admission ticket.

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12 May 2021 14:08:12
1x MVP, 2x league lead scoring, 3x league lead assist, 9x all star, 9x all NBA.

He’s almost identical to Iverson, who is in the Hall of Fame.

Not sure how you can justify that argument that triple doubles are the only thing taking him into it. Even if he doesn’t win that MVP, he’s in.

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12 May 2021 21:14:56
Definitely a hall of famer no matter how many hate he gets. Yeah, i a gree with Miller with the Iverson statement.

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11 May 2021 13:19:11
With Jalen Brown out for the season should Boston tank these last 4 games to get in the lottery?

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11 May 2021 14:10:50
No. They don't need another young player. They need experience for the young players they have. In the offseason they need a veteran forward.

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11 May 2021 14:58:40
They may not have to tank to be honest, they might just lose these last four trying to win.

Your absolutely right about having another young player. I'm thinking using that pick as trade bait along with others to land a bigger fish.

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11 May 2021 20:17:25
I don't know, but I always feel like the Celtics have too much of the same type of players (wings) and not enough of the bigs/ PGs.

Plus, Brad Stevens needs to come up with a better offense than the ISO plays that they run way, way, too much of during a game.

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11 May 2021 22:42:34
I think they play too small. They should move either Smart or Walker via trade or to the bench and get a forward in that starting lineup who plays with some fire. Brown at the 2.

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10 May 2021 13:04:53
Why hasn't Adam silver forced jerry colangelo to take over for Sam Presti and hire his son to be the new GM? Disgraceful display of tanking. TTP

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09 May 2021 21:52:42
Damn i'm so happy for the New York Knicks and their fans. They're playing with huge heart.

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11 May 2021 18:09:18
With a terrible owner.

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