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28 Jul 2021 19:49:57
According to The Ringer's Kevin O'Conner on "The Mismatch" podcast, the San Antonio Spurs reportedly turned down an offer for Sixers' Ben Simmons.

And apparently, it was a steep price.

O'Conner says the 76ers wanted a haul from the Spurs that included the Spurs sending Philadelphia one of their young core players and much more.

There's so much stuff floating out there right now about the Sixers having outrageous demands like wanting four first-round draft picks, and three pick swaps, and a young player from the Spurs they say now.

All these deals you hear about are outrageous. Nobody will do it for Ben Simmons.

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28 Jul 2021 21:22:29
Hasn't that always been Daryl Morey's negotiation style? . so now the ridiculous rumours are being fed from Philly instead of Houston.

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28 Jul 2021 19:01:05
PLEASE get this draft over so some of these one sided deals aimed at ripping off the Cavs can stop. The Cavs will draft either Green or Mobley. Franchise type players will not be dealt and especially the proposals seen here. GM Altman would be run out of town by Mr Gilbert in a minute!

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28 Jul 2021 03:15:39
I've read from multiple sites that you can include multiple players in a s&t as long as the salaries match. And seen trade examples as well. So what's the real deal with this. Here are the only rules that come up on these sites

2. If the newly-signed contract is for at least three or four years.

2. If the contract's first year is fully guaranteed.

3. If the contract is posted before the start of the regular season.

4. If the player has finished the season before with the team.

5. If the contract is not signed using the MLE or mid-level exception

6. If the acquiring team has enough salary cap room to accommodate the player's salary and bonuses in the first season.

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28 Jul 2021 12:56:54
Yes, you can add players. There use to be a clause in the previous CBA that disallowed this from happening. It is also tricky because some websites still list the old CBA or old articles about the old CBA rules. So it requires a lot of focus in checking dates to ensure that one is looking at the current version of the CBA.

Evidence that you can do it is the Durant-DLO trade where DLo was S&T'd to GS with 2 other players to match the Durant's salary.

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28 Jul 2021 22:15:28
Although I could not find anything directly stating this, but I am starting wonder if players were added to the Durant-DLo trade because DLo's max was under what Durant was able to sign for.

I am curious if this comes into play with the Lakers having to S&T Schroder at this max and add salary to get Westbrook.

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28 Jul 2021 02:37:07
Read an article talking about teams are no longer calling Philly about Simmons primarily because of asking price. An example was Philly asked Toronto for Lowry + #4 for Simmons.

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28 Jul 2021 04:52:30
I saw they also asked for Vanvleet OG and 4th lmao.

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28 Jul 2021 13:29:29
I saw a report on BR that it was Lowry, VanVleet, Anunoby AND the 4th, which was absolutely ridiculous because it doesn't come close to meeting CBA (unless Harris or Embiid was also part of the deal) . I mean I get it that we see non-conforming trade proposals on here because we're all amateurs pretending to be GMs, but guys that are being paid to write for websites should at least have some clue about what the CBA rules are before dropping rumours that are not even possible.

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27 Jul 2021 15:44:52
If the management really wants to create a championship team they need to honestly reevaluate the team. They've done this now for 7 years and haven't got it done. Everything starts with management. IMO it's time to start new. New management,they already have the new coach, so now look at realistic trades that will help. No more trading 2first round picks for a player. Those picks that Portland gave up for Covington has really hurt our teams future. Yes Covington is a decent player but I for one don't see giving up 2 firsts round picks for him. Now the team is in uncertainty over what they have done. It's time to start new and make major changes. Let Mrs. Allen have more of a say in what happens.

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27 Jul 2021 20:30:43
Jody doesn’t want a say.

Also, that Covington trade looks fine to me. Stewart doesn’t seem like a star in the making. And Portland doesn’t need another guy around pick 20 do they? If Portland rebuilt, I think they could get a mid teens pick back from Covington, so it’s not like the cost they paid is sunk.

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27 Jul 2021 21:54:30
The Covington deal is questionable as Portland's Def Rtg actually got worse last season. 2 firsts for a guy who did not help.

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28 Jul 2021 02:19:44
The defense with Powell, RoCo, and Nurkic was actually not bad.

The defense with Hood, Melo, and Kanter was a disaster the likes of which maybe has never been seen. Covington couldn’t cover all of that. He was still really good this year.

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27 Jul 2021 15:09:15
In your opinion. Who won the Pels Grizzlies trade?

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27 Jul 2021 17:08:21
Both sides imo.

Pels got a better center that can fit decently well with Zion while shedding cap

Grizz take on an extra contract to move into top 10 while also getting the Lakers future 1st. They weren’t going to extend and pay big for Valanciunas anyways.

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27 Jul 2021 18:22:36
Depends on who falls to #10. I am not seeing a great difference in talent between #10 and #17. Not sure it's worth taking on over $50 mil in total salary that Memphis has done.

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27 Jul 2021 20:27:10
Adams contract extension (which will start this year) is 2yr 35mil (avg 17.5mil a year) which is abt equal is Valanciunas current deal. Bledsoe is an extra 16 mil. Not seeing what you mean by us taking 50mil in salary.

10th pick will have wings such as Bouknight Moddy K. Johnson C. Kispert as options which will most likely have none of them available at 17. That talent is better than wings projected around late teens such as Williams Duarte and Murphy.

I honestly wouldn’t be mad if we packaged Clarke and/ or Bane with the 10 to move up.

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27 Jul 2021 20:31:04
I love it for the Pels.

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27 Jul 2021 21:35:59
In my mind both teams benefit from the deal. Adams is a Grizzlies type of center. He fits with both Jackson and Clarke.

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27 Jul 2021 21:55:56
I'll take Xlarke to move up to #9.

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27 Jul 2021 22:37:31
@nba typo. Should have been over $40. $18 (Bledsoe) +$3 (difference between Adams-Val) +$18 (Adams future salary) +$4 (waiving Bledsoe next year) .

Still too much for 7 slots mid-first round IMO.

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27 Jul 2021 23:38:29
That's a dream Fred. Clarke and 10 for 9? I don't know if Memphis do it, i will be shocked.

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28 Jul 2021 01:24:28
I bet you would hahah send us back Hali then.

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28 Jul 2021 02:02:46
I’d send Clarke to Gsw or Orl.

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26 Jul 2021 23:15:33
Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report on “The Gastroenteritis Blues” podcast:

They [team] haven’t been able to really even get in touch with Ben since the season ended. There was an intent to have a workout plan or whatever – like in any offseason. And that’s always kind of been the case, that the Sixers haven’t really been able to align with a development plan. That’s kind of what Yaron Weitzman wrote at Fox Sports in that big story, right? It just doesn’t sound like there’s ever really been movement to come together on the same page to do that, and it hasn’t really worked this summer either. So, I think that’s not something that is an encouraging sign for him being in Philadelphia in the future.

This is why I have not expected Simmons game to change. He was not doing to Olympics to work on his game, right? SMH.

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27 Jul 2021 04:00:00
Yep, I feel the same. He just doesn’t have the mentality and work ethic. He’s essentially peaked.

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27 Jul 2021 15:08:09
He’s also only 24. He desperately needs a change of scenery. I think part of this is him having no interest in working with Phili and simply being ready to move on too.

We’re also only days removed from the end of the actual season. Don’t most guys walk away for a good chunk of the offseason when it starts? Getting far away from the gym and team seems like a good move. Just get away for a while.

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27 Jul 2021 16:38:18
To not plan and work with your team on an offseason workout schedule in any off-season's since being in the league is very worrisome. Dude definitely doesn't seem to want to be with Philly or even want to change his style of player. He has gone so long with being able to "succeed" the way he plays now so seems like he doesn't want to change and adapt.

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27 Jul 2021 18:25:22
@Bmiller, how many players say that they are not playing in the Olympics to work on their game and then don't work on their game with team trainers?

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27 Jul 2021 20:32:23
In the first couple weeks of the offseason? I think a lot do. Dame generally works on his own from what I know, until the last few weeks of the offseason.

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26 Jul 2021 21:48:53
@Fredman guess you were wrong about teams not trading picks until the draft 🥴

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26 Jul 2021 23:28:25
Yup. Outliers do exist.

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28 Jul 2021 01:59:22
Hold this L Fredman.

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28 Jul 2021 13:02:47
@Casual. As Uncle Drew says, "Hold my nuts".

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