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07 Jun 2022 23:21:52
Saw this one on The Athletic:

Blazers get 11, 2023 Dallas first, and Toppin

Knicks get 7, Keon Johnson, and Greg Brown.


1.) 08 Jun 2022 04:08:40
Who is the Knicks looking to get at #7 that they cannot get a #11? Duren?

2.) 08 Jun 2022 12:35:55
Could only think of Duren or Mathurin.

3.) 08 Jun 2022 13:52:01
One would assume this happens because the Knicks fall in love with one of the guys projected just outside of the top 6.



20 May 2022 19:16:23
Blazers trade Keon Johnson and 2025 Bucks first

Wizards trade Kuzma

I’ll admit Kuzma is someone I’ve had a hard time figuring out what his value might be around the league.


1.) 21 May 2022 07:25:31
his value is way higher than this trade offer. if that package can't get them Jerami Grant, then Kuzma is out of the question. i value Kuzma a little bit higher than Grant.

2.) 21 May 2022 12:32:19
Really? I value Grant a lot more than Kuz.

3.) 21 May 2022 15:48:49
I also assumed Grant had more value than Kuzma. But I think they’re very similar on the court impact.



05 Apr 2022 16:42:56
I’m really curious what Knicks fans see Randle’s value being. He’s a guy I’d love to see in Portland.

Knicks get pick 11 (NO pick from Portland), 1-2 future second round picks from Portland

Pacers get 2023 Dallas first via NY, 1-2 second round picks from Portland

Blazers get Randle and Turner (absorbed into trade exception)


1.) 05 Apr 2022 17:00:45
I feel like he has solid value still, he’s just not a #1 like he is on the Knicks. I don’t think NyK will want to attach a 1st with Randle.

2.) 05 Apr 2022 17:05:18
Wow Bmiller posted a trade. :)
I think this is fair value for Randle personally.

3.) 05 Apr 2022 19:22:17
I’m one to overthink everything so much that I just don’t post new ideas often.

4.) 05 Apr 2022 22:54:40
don't be shy. your point of view is appreciated.

5.) 06 Apr 2022 14:31:49
Turner has more value than a low first.

6.) 06 Apr 2022 17:13:51
A recent report said that Turner’s value is just that, a non lottery protected first. His health status and only having one year left on his deal don’t help his value.

7.) 06 Apr 2022 20:01:53
I meant non lottery pick, a protected pick. Not a unprotected pick. My wording there was terrible.



26 Jan 2022 20:05:27
Saw this today on Twitter:

Blazers get Osman and Ed Davis

Cavs get Covington.


1.) 27 Jan 2022 09:37:14
I like this for Portland
Not sure about cleveland, Osman is playing well from the bench.



18 Oct 2021 23:12:45
Curious what others here think. Blazer Twitter hated it.

Blazers trade Nurkic, McCollum, Elleby
Get Ayton, Saric, Payne

Suns trade Ayton, Payne, Saric, Crowder
Get Simmons, Nurkic, and Elleby

76ers trade Simmons
Get McCollum and Crowder.


1.) 18 Oct 2021 23:17:52
About even valuewise. But I think the Suns could work on a Towns trade centered around Ayton.

2.) 19 Oct 2021 01:09:33
there's no way minnesota gives up towns for ayton.




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15 Apr 2021 17:35:54
Sad to see Lamarcus Aldridge forced out like that. He was a huge part of the resurgence of the Blazers after a horrible decade.

Hopefully he gets his jersey in the rafters in Portland one day. And in the HOF.


1.) 16 Apr 2021 16:23:50
Kinda wondering if his medical condition was the real reason that the Spurs put LMA on the shelf earlier this season.



15 Dec 2020 17:23:34
Giannis with the max extension. How’s that guarantee he’ll be in Dallas going ddrainer?


1.) 15 Dec 2020 17:52:51
Also, does this totally change the outlook on trades this season for the Raptor fans? With him off the board, does cap space lose a lot of its value?

2.) 15 Dec 2020 18:56:58
I was thinking more about Miami than Toronto.

3.) 15 Dec 2020 19:08:07
Miami and Toronto will be fine. Contingency plans are always in their GMs minds.

4.) 15 Dec 2020 19:26:02
That James Harden market might be about to heat up.

5.) 15 Dec 2020 23:24:37
1st thing to look for from Toronto is OG's extension.
Maybe a Lowry extension too. keep the contract for a big dollar trade. if neither happen then they will deal at deadline to get roster into the shape they want for offseason.

6.) 16 Dec 2020 12:41:24
Aaaaaahhhh there's still Kawhi, Dipo, Gobert, and others. . .

7.) 16 Dec 2020 15:06:49
Are you really refusing to take on future salary for a shot at Oladipo or Gobert?

Kawhi isn’t an option, and you know it. He won’t go back to Toronto.

8.) 16 Dec 2020 16:22:36
You can't fully rule out Kawhi coming back. Honestly, we don't need to clear anymore cap space, but we're not taking on multiple years of contracts for Lowry.

9.) 17 Dec 2020 20:16:14
Dude Toronto done I say they miss playoffs just my opinion.

10.) 18 Dec 2020 15:07:43
lol II we can still beat your lakers just saying.



12 Dec 2020 19:39:05
Fredman, talk me down from the insane hype that Giles is causing throughout the Blazer fan base. He looked incredible.

Heat fans, same thing for DJJ. He was awesome last night.

It’s just one game, but the Blazers looked good.


1.) 12 Dec 2020 21:32:37
Giles a beast

2.) 13 Dec 2020 04:25:41
His knees will give out about 20 games into the season. His biggest problem in Sac was that he couldn't stay on the court. Whether that be injuries/ knee pain or foul trouble.

3.) 13 Dec 2020 17:24:45
Seems like that’s every big man the kings draft.



29 Nov 2020 00:06:53
Condolences on your center position Fredman. I can’t explain how happy I am that Portland took Kanter and Giles over Whiteside.


1.) 29 Nov 2020 03:54:43
Yea. But at least we are paying him $20 mil less than Portland did. Whole lot easier to cut if he doesn't pan out.

2.) 29 Nov 2020 05:35:27
Very true. I was happy with the Leonard and Harkless for Whiteside trade when it happened. I wish they hadn’t done it in retrospect.



20 Oct 2020 17:36:23
Who is on everyone’s list of “I don’t want that player on my team no matter what”?

One rule: totally ignore contracts. This is all about performance, style, personality, or attitude.

My top 3:
Hassan Whiteside
Julius Randle
Patrick Beverly

Whiteside and Randle are the same. They’re selfish stat stuffers that actively make their teams worse. They also think they’re superstar talents, so they “take over games”.

Beverly is simply dirty. The dirtiest player of the last 20 years. I just couldn’t root for him.


1.) 20 Oct 2020 18:13:32
Agree with Whiteside and Randle. I’d take Beverly in a second. Wiggins, Westbrook, and whiteside would be my 3. Westbrook is probably controversial, but no one keeps a team decent and gives them a hard cap in the playoffs as much as Russ.

2.) 20 Oct 2020 19:16:55
Yeah, Westbrook was the closest person to making my top 3, for exactly that reason. A team with Westbrook as the best player is a nearly guaranteed first round exit. No better, no less.

3.) 20 Oct 2020 19:29:44
1. Carmelo Anthony
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Carmelo Anthony.

4.) 20 Oct 2020 20:39:02
Just because he was a Knick? Maybe I just never paid any attention to him, but Portland Melo seems like a really good dude, and a shockingly unselfish player.

5.) 20 Oct 2020 21:13:45
I'm not opposed to having anyone on my team. Personality takes a backseat to talent and fit.

6.) 20 Oct 2020 21:41:29
I'm with Darry here.

7.) 21 Oct 2020 02:44:49
I will pop in just for this one because my list has some not mentioned previously

K. Love

Honorable mention: Ben Simmons.

8.) 21 Oct 2020 05:39:21
Oh c'mon Freddy, we need your comments here.

9.) 21 Oct 2020 12:31:08
Fred! Good to have you back!

10.) 21 Oct 2020 16:38:14

Whiteside I don’t want in the league.




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23 Jun 2022 20:16:08
One workout doesn’t change trade rumors. Players have been traded mid game before.




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23 Jun 2022 16:58:12
Portland would have to throw Bledsoe in too. But he’s partially guaranteed, so it’s an easy throw in.

Are Turner and Hield worth 7 through? I don’t see it.




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23 Jun 2022 05:12:18
It really feels like Hayward ends up in Detroit as a salary dump.




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22 Jun 2022 22:23:45
It’s been fun trying to convince the pistons fans that this was the likely outcome.

I was called an idiot, and Grant ended up being traded for less than I thought.




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21 Jun 2022 15:34:15
Hopefully Portland can beat that. Collins is probably my highest hope for a draft day trade.





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23 Jun 2022 20:18:34
I think Collins is at least a tier better than Grant and Wood. I don’t think they’ll trade him for cheap.




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18 Jun 2022 20:07:04
Kareem, oops. Hakeem is tier 3.




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18 Jun 2022 17:01:41
My personal list is tiers:

Tier 1: Jordan, Lebron, Magic, Hakeem

(Not sure if tier 1 or 2: Russell)

Tier 2: Kobe, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Wilt, Steph

That’s a top 11. If Steph isn’t top 10, he’s 11 to me. That second tier could be justified to be in any order. It’s all really close.




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18 Jun 2022 17:00:11
I also think the “he’s not as good as X” is meaningless. The top 10 is about accomplishments, not who you’d take on your team in their prime for a year.




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18 Jun 2022 16:58:31
“They never had 2 of the top 3 players on 1 team tho. ”

Kobe’s first 3 rings were with the best player in the league. I guess they didn’t have 2 of the 3 best players in the league. But that was Kobe not being a top 3 player, not his teammate.

Wade was a top 5 player in Miami with Lebron.

Also, Magic and Kareem.