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09 Nov 2020 17:16:12
Phili gets Beal
Portland get Simmons
Washington gets Ariza, Hood, Collins, Little, Simons, and Portland’s 2020, 2022, and 2024 firsts

Phili gets a star that fits better.

Washington gets 3 prospects 22 and under and 3 firsts and rebuild.

Portland gets a third star that fits the roster.


1.) 09 Nov 2020 17:34:04
Could swap Hood and Collins out, and put Nurkic in. But that seems less likely to entice Washington to me.

2.) 09 Nov 2020 20:07:36
Naw Portland don’t have the assets to get Simmons unless give up cj or dame. With Simmons defense he just as good as lillard in overall talent. So if lillard a top 3 point guard Simons about number 6 just as good.

3.) 09 Nov 2020 20:08:07
That's a lot for Simmons.

4.) 09 Nov 2020 20:23:07
Low end talent assets and pick 20 picks not a lot for Simmons especially PhilLy not rebuilding this trade delusional. How about Sexton, Nance jr, Exum, rights to pick 5 Plus. 2021 Cavs unprotected and 23 first top ten protected for Simmons


5.) 09 Nov 2020 20:35:32
Portland giving away players of fit, buy not fully proven other than Ariza, and too many draft picks for the Simmons, whose fit may not be clear as a complete non-shooter.

6.) 10 Nov 2020 00:19:01
Simmons as good as Lillard is a joke right?

7.) 10 Nov 2020 04:42:11
I’m going to take this trade to Facebook so it can get highly bashed. Those 3 players are projects with no Star potential and the picks are 26 and higher no way from Philly.

8.) 10 Nov 2020 06:23:51
Portland were lucky to make finals with there lineup. They want improve will lose Whiteside in fa and end up 11th in the west.

9.) 10 Nov 2020 09:07:58
It’s no joke. Simmons is prolly the best defensive guard in the league to make up for his poor shooting. I say the top 5 point guards in no order curry dame Irving Paul Westbrook. and then Simmons. People say dame number 2 or 3 but I put him 2. So if Simmons number 6 I say that’s just as good. Factor in age soon Paul decline that put Simmons in top 5 maybe next year. Simmons defense is superior to these top 5 excluding Paul and defense wins championships. So yeah I say just as good. All star, all nba and all nba defense.

10.) 10 Nov 2020 14:38:43
I feel like the Blazers would want to put in Nurkic instead of Hood and Collins.

11.) 11 Nov 2020 21:10:32
Defense doesn’t win championships in the NBA. Superstars do. Lillard is one, Simmons isn’t.

Swap them and Phili is 2019 NBA champs. Portland didn’t make it out of the first round in 2019.

You act like Facebook is a reliable source. Good one. Hopefully another joke.



28 Oct 2020 01:21:14
Blazers offseason:

Blazers trade Ariza, Hood, Collins, and 2021 top 5 protected first

Boston trades Gordon Hayward (opt out and S&T for 3 years 75 million)

Draft Bey

Sign Gallinari to MLE, Aron Baynes to BAE, and Evan Turner and Melo to min.

Starting lineup: Lillard, McCollum, Hayward, Gallinari, Nurkic

Bench Trent, Simons, Turner, Baynes, Melo, Little, and Bey.


1.) 28 Oct 2020 04:43:55
I like Gordon Hayward going to Blazers. He fits perfectly with their stars there.

2.) 28 Oct 2020 05:43:20
Don’t like it for the Celtics. They would be better of keeping Hayward.

3.) 28 Oct 2020 06:00:31
I'm leaning towards Hayward not opting out. And if the Blazers did land Hayward, then Gallinari is probably not the right choice at power forward . a huge Blazer need is defense at both forward positions.

And when the Blazers had E. Turner before, he was a huge disappointment. So that would be an extremely unpopular, and likely unsuccessful, grab.

4.) 28 Oct 2020 08:59:01
Bubbleboy, if Gallo signs with them for MLE, they are lucky and stupid not to take the chance. Who are the candidates for cheap PF who plays defense? millsap?

5.) 28 Oct 2020 12:37:44
BHC: but if he opts out, he’s a free agent. It could come down to this return or he signs for one year and bolts next year or signs somewhere else this offseason.

Bubbleboy: Hayward and Gallinari are both ok defenders. They’re not leading the league in defense, but with Nurkic protecting the paint, that’s a middling defense. And that might be the best offense in the league.

Turner was hated for one reason, his contract. I think he’s become an underrated player around the league. He’s a really good defender, and a good floor general.

And yeah, I’d take Grant for the MLE too, but I don’t think he’ll be available.

6.) 28 Oct 2020 21:21:38
bmiller66 - Hayward would be a solid grab for Portland. After that the Blazers absolutely need defense. that means a player above average versus "middling".

As for offense, Portland already has one of the top offenses in the league and look where they are. No to Gallinari.

The problem with Turner when he was with the Blazers was much more than just his contract. He did not fit with Lillard as he is a ball in hand player. And his play was very uninspiring all around. He shot .27% from 3 during his 3 years in Portland, and didn't/ couldn't carve out a role.

7.) 29 Oct 2020 07:06:08
boston has 14 player on their roster. they should waive some players first.

8.) 30 Oct 2020 01:40:24
USA. we will have to disagree regarding Gallinari. Portland needs defense and grit at the forward position much more than more scoring with snooze-level defense. More scoring will not get them closer towards contention. There's nothing "stupid" about paying attention to team needs, team fit, winning pedigree, and what may or may not happen at the small forward position. The MLE might be better used on backup center. Or keep starting Collins at PF, then bring Gallinari in as a 6th man.

9.) 30 Oct 2020 17:04:04
ya as someone who likes turner he wasn't a good fit with the blazers and doesn't fit in many situations because he is a ball dominant player (who isn't as dominant as premier ball dominant players) who struggles to space the floor off-ball. trade makes sense also forget about resigning melo. he doesn't want a minimum to play in portland they're going to need a wing defender type to guard lebron and kawhi.



21 Oct 2020 20:29:18
Clippers get Beal and Hood

Blazers get Paul George

Wizards get Ariza, Collins, Simons, Little, pick 16, 2022 first from Portland.


1.) 21 Oct 2020 21:19:11
Cut Wizards out Cj McCollum Rodney Hood for Paul George swap.

2.) 21 Oct 2020 21:20:07
Interesting but i think Wizards need more. How about Trent going to them too?

3.) 21 Oct 2020 22:37:26
Pass on that MD. Just like Middleton, there’s no point in trading for George unless it’s to pair with Lillard and McCollum. Lillard and George don’t have any higher ceiling than Lillard and McCollum in my eyes.

I’d probably be ok with the Wizards picking 3 of Simons, Trent, Collins, and Little. I think Simons has a higher ceiling than Trent, but Trent has a much higher floor. Heck, if they demanded all 4, I would be hesitant, but inevitably concede if I were running the team.

4.) 22 Oct 2020 00:33:05
That looks like a lot for PG.



12 Mar 2020 18:02:46
Piggybacking off of Gasupo's idea

Blazers get Dinwiddie and LeVert
Nets get McCollum and choice of Trent or Simons (maybe a first instead if they prefer) .


1.) 12 Mar 2020 20:07:55
Nets save them for a Giannis trade package?

2.) 12 Mar 2020 20:20:37
I don't see the Nets having enough for a Giannis trade package. I guess they could though. I just don't see that BIG asset that the Bucks will want if they ever entertain the idea of moving him.

3.) 13 Mar 2020 00:47:18
They may never get that BIG asset either. Especially with him only having one year left on his deal. But a Giannis/ KD (healthy) / Kyrie team would be scary and probably give revamped Golden State a run.

4.) 13 Mar 2020 01:37:15
Kinda like the deal. Blazers need to try to change things.

5.) 13 Mar 2020 15:25:19
I agree they'd be really good. But wouldn't Atlanta be able to offer considerably more? Something like top 5 pick, Collins, Hunter/ Reddish, future pick (s) .

It probably depends on if the Bucks want to continue to contend for the playoffs or fully rebuild. Adding Dinwiddie and LeVert to that existing team makes a darn good team. Not the #1 seed in the east good, but definitely in the top 5 or 6 in the east still.

I also think Giannis will extend in early July. Just my gut, but I think he gets offered almost a quarter billion and takes it.

6.) 13 Mar 2020 16:35:04
If the Bucks weren’t getting back a high end asset, why wouldn’t they just play out the season? They’re a title contender. You don’t get many shots at it and Giannis seems more likely to stay than go as long as they’re close to a championship.

7.) 13 Mar 2020 20:39:57
Bmiller, is Giannis going to resign in ATL? Do you offer all that unless you KNOW the guy will resign. Thiz is thd AD-Boston-Lakers argument all over again.

8.) 13 Mar 2020 21:47:48
OKC did it with Paul George. Toronto with Leonard. I think taking a chance at the best player in the league, hoping you have enough talent to win a championship and convince him to stay (or win and he walks) is a pretty common practice.

9.) 14 Mar 2020 03:21:20
That’s y I see philly trading for Giannis or miami.



07 Jan 2020 16:29:41
Blazers trade Whiteside, Little, and their 2020 first (top 5 protected), and two second round picks.

Wolves trade Covington, Dieng, and Napier.


1.) 07 Jan 2020 18:21:48
Wow seems fair.

2.) 07 Jan 2020 18:49:32
Covington, Dieng, and Napier have been the Wolves best 3 players over the last 2 weeks. Why would they trade them for that?

3.) 07 Jan 2020 19:22:30
Because two of them are still just nice bench players at best. Two weeks doesn't change a career. If those 3 are your 3 best players, good luck in the lottery.

That's effectively two firsts and two seconds for a really good role player on a good contract, and two nice bench players. If Minny decides to punt on the season, it feels like a good return. If you really want to keep Napier, keep him, he doesn't make or break the deal to me.

I think Dieng fits in Portland better than quite a few other teams. He's overpaid, but how much Nurkic is underpaid really balances it out. He can't play behind guys with contracts like Towns, AD, or Adams.

4.) 07 Jan 2020 20:07:53
Minnesota has won 4 out of 6 (including one loss to the Buck by 2) without their 2 best players. They are 1 game out of the 8th spot in the West.

They aren't punting. They are looking to make the playoffs.

5.) 07 Jan 2020 20:42:58
Carl006 you can't go off of a few games against a weak schedule. Wolves have had this team for years and they havnt done anything. If they're really playing well it's more reason to trade them while their stocks higher.

6.) 07 Jan 2020 20:58:33
They're also 7 games under .500 and 1 game ahead of 13th in the west. As a Blazer fan, I have already punted on the season. This trade was an idea to make them better next year (pickup two guys that are under contract next year) .

Portland is older than Minny with more recent success (3 seed the last two years), they need to look towards next year. I think Minny needs to build for a longer future, because I don't see them having a future past the 8 seed without a big change.

7.) 07 Jan 2020 21:18:04
I’m probably biased, but Dieng has always been this good when he starts. The two years he started next to KAT (before Taj), he was #34 and #42 in overall RPM for the entire NBA. This year, he’s improved his three point shooting.

I think overall it’s a good idea for some MIN-POR deal, but MIN would have to face RoCo four times a year for three seasons. He also is one of the few players currently on the Wolves roster that can run Rosas system, so losing him hurts their development this year. Maybe include Simons instead of the picks - with Napier coming back, he’s of less need anyway.

I love it for POR. Covington is exactly what they need to upgrade their wings, and provide some resistance to the great opposing wings they will face in the playoffs. Dieng has been playing terrific, and he fills a need, even after Nurkic gets back. And Napier already has experience with Stott’s system, so he should be ready to contribute right away.

I might recommend making this a three-teamer, sending Whiteside elsewhere - maybe Atlanta. He’s a good player, but the Wolves will only giving him back up minutes when Towns gets back, and I worry that he will be a problem in the locker room as he tried to play for his next contract.

Good offering, BMiller!

8.) 07 Jan 2020 21:19:17
Little hasn't been impressive and Whiteside is useless to Minnesota. Same with cap space.

The Wolves won't trade a talent like Covnington for so little.

9.) 07 Jan 2020 22:17:07
I actually think Little's ceiling is Covington. I've liked him a lot, he's just too young and not ready. His defense for his age has impressed me. I think his value is still that of a late first.

My assumption was Whiteside is waived. Yeah, a third team could be included too, either way. He's not any value in the trade as I was typing it out.

If Simons were included, I'd pull Little and the first. I think his ceiling is McCollum (maybe higher) . Not saying he's guaranteed to be that good, but he's shown flashes of greatness. I could be convinced to make him available though.

10.) 07 Jan 2020 23:39:39
I have wanted Dieng on the Kings ever since he left Louisville. Always thought he would have been a good pairing with DMC.

11.) 08 Jan 2020 02:31:06
Not going to get Covington for Simon and two late 2nds.

RoCo was named 1st team All Defense in 2018. I know we were talking about Little’s ceiling, but does he really have 1st team All Defense ceiling? How many players have 1st Team ceiling?

12.) 08 Jan 2020 11:58:29
He’s a top 5 recruit athlete and has really solid fundamentals and instincts on defense. In my opinion, yes, he has that ceiling. But obviously few people reach their ceilings.

13.) 10 Jan 2020 21:53:43
This seems plausible. If I were Portland I would try to leave out Little/ Napier portion. Minn may not want Whiteside, so you may need a 3rd team like ATL for Whiteside. Have them send Crabbe or ETurner and Len to Minnesota, plus something like 2nd rounder. Minn gets another pick and cap relieve. ATL can see if Whiteside fits alongside their young core to see if they want to try to sign him for longer. ATL needs to show TYoung they are trying to improve. So, trying to see if Whiteside works for a 2nd rounder is likley worth it.




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29 Nov 2020 00:06:53
Condolences on your center position Fredman. I can’t explain how happy I am that Portland took Kanter and Giles over Whiteside.


1.) 29 Nov 2020 03:54:43
Yea. But at least we are paying him $20 mil less than Portland did. Whole lot easier to cut if he doesn't pan out.

2.) 29 Nov 2020 05:35:27
Very true. I was happy with the Leonard and Harkless for Whiteside trade when it happened. I wish they hadn’t done it in retrospect.



20 Oct 2020 17:36:23
Who is on everyone’s list of “I don’t want that player on my team no matter what”?

One rule: totally ignore contracts. This is all about performance, style, personality, or attitude.

My top 3:
Hassan Whiteside
Julius Randle
Patrick Beverly

Whiteside and Randle are the same. They’re selfish stat stuffers that actively make their teams worse. They also think they’re superstar talents, so they “take over games”.

Beverly is simply dirty. The dirtiest player of the last 20 years. I just couldn’t root for him.


1.) 20 Oct 2020 18:13:32
Agree with Whiteside and Randle. I’d take Beverly in a second. Wiggins, Westbrook, and whiteside would be my 3. Westbrook is probably controversial, but no one keeps a team decent and gives them a hard cap in the playoffs as much as Russ.

2.) 20 Oct 2020 19:16:55
Yeah, Westbrook was the closest person to making my top 3, for exactly that reason. A team with Westbrook as the best player is a nearly guaranteed first round exit. No better, no less.

3.) 20 Oct 2020 19:29:44
1. Carmelo Anthony
2. Carmelo Anthony
3. Carmelo Anthony.

4.) 20 Oct 2020 20:39:02
Just because he was a Knick? Maybe I just never paid any attention to him, but Portland Melo seems like a really good dude, and a shockingly unselfish player.

5.) 20 Oct 2020 21:13:45
I'm not opposed to having anyone on my team. Personality takes a backseat to talent and fit.

6.) 20 Oct 2020 21:41:29
I'm with Darry here.

7.) 21 Oct 2020 02:44:49
I will pop in just for this one because my list has some not mentioned previously

K. Love

Honorable mention: Ben Simmons.

8.) 21 Oct 2020 05:39:21
Oh c'mon Freddy, we need your comments here.

9.) 21 Oct 2020 12:31:08
Fred! Good to have you back!

10.) 21 Oct 2020 16:38:14

Whiteside I don’t want in the league.



31 Jan 2020 01:04:48
They’re making the all star game follow the Elam Ending Rules. I love it. I’d like to see them try a season of the G League with that to see how I goes.

Overall, I think it’s a better product. There’s no intentional fouling, no string of 5 straight timeouts. And there’s always a game winning shot.




21 Nov 2019 16:55:11
I apologize to all Heat fans that screamed for years that Whiteside is terrible and I didn't believe them. It's incredible how bad he is. It doesn't show up on the stat sheet, but everything he does is just to the detriment of his team.

Especially his defense. He gets some great, highlight reel blocks. But for each one of those, he whiffs and gives up a wide open dunk. He also has no idea how to navigate a pick and roll on either side of the court.

He can't be gone from Portland soon enough. This will show how bad it is. I miss Enes Kanter. I miss his offense and I miss his defense.


1.) 21 Nov 2019 18:15:30
Even I'm a Raptors fan, I accept the heartfelt apology. I understand.

2.) 21 Nov 2019 19:41:02
As a Kings fan, I am glad to see him destroy Portland's hope of winning games. Nothing personal, just being real.

3.) 21 Nov 2019 21:35:53
All he cares about is his box score. He doesn't care about team success. As long as he is getting his rebounds and a highlight play here and there he doesn't care what happens.

4.) 21 Nov 2019 22:45:33
BTW BMiller, how does it feel having to pay that upcoming $25 mil luxury tax bill for this season?

5.) 22 Nov 2019 15:05:31
It's not my luxury tax bill, I don't care about it. I'd have Jody Allen pay any luxury tax bill if they made the conference finals again. The tax bill was worth it last year. Hell, this year's bill is worth it for last year's playoff run. That's how desperate for success Portland fans are, and I'm sure you can relate as a Kings fan.

At this point, the incredibly high payroll should play to their advantage in trades because all of their contracts are either expiring, good players, or rookie deals.

6.) 22 Nov 2019 15:09:48
I just assumed that playing on an expiring contract, he'd realize he needs to be better to get another contract. It was a gamble, but a logical one. At least I assumed his effort would be at a maximum. But it's not, his effort is minimal at best.

Sadly, I think Skal might be a better starting option. Heck, he went for 22 and 12 with 5 blocks last night against the Bucks. He's not horrible, and he at least plays with extreme effort.

7.) 22 Nov 2019 17:10:27
Yup. Always easier to spend someone's elses money for your happiness as a fan.

8.) 22 Nov 2019 17:40:24
It's not like the owners are losing money. Allen bought the team for 70 million and it's going to sell for 2 billion or so. He was worth 20 billion when he died. 25 million is a tenth of a percent of his total fortune. Total revenue for the team in 2018 was 248 million (which has gone up since then! ) . I doubt they're losing money even with the tax bill.

Yeah, I can't feel bad for the money spent in any way. And Paul was the happiest Blazer fan of them all when they were successful.

9.) 23 Nov 2019 03:50:12
I thought whiteside would be better. He seems to shine in contract years.

10.) 24 Nov 2019 01:29:55
Same Shiller. With two years left on the contract it’s a horrible move. Betting on a guy to do everything he can to prove he deserves another big contract was logical. But his “everything he can” was just MORE selfishness.



15 Nov 2019 01:26:12
Melo to the Blazers.

And the sad part is that I’m happy about it. Hezonja and Tolliver have been worst case scenario bad. Melo might be inefficient and not play defense. But Hezonja and Tolliver haven’t been playing offense or defense at all.

And with a non-guaranteed dead, if he’s terrible, they can just cut him.


1.) 15 Nov 2019 06:09:15
Just please Melo accept your role. You'll do good if you can.

2.) 15 Nov 2019 09:36:21
I hope it works, it needs to happen this year.

Golden stat is back next year
Clippers and Lakers will be rotated
Denver and Utah would have more experience.

3.) 15 Nov 2019 11:47:26
Just what the Blazers needed -- a lock-down defender.

4.) 15 Nov 2019 12:22:12
Psiphon- Very true. I think he’ll start (it’s him or Little at PF) . If he does, I think they run a lot of the offense through a Lillard/ Melo high pick and roll. That’s Stotts base play. They then let the screaner run a lot of the offense from popping to the elbow to make a play. Seems like something Melo would thrive at.

Supercollider- like I said, he literally can’t be worse defensively than Hezonja and Tolliver. And he can’t be worse offensively.

5.) 15 Nov 2019 13:02:16
I actually thought the Schumpert Melo signings were backwards. Thought Melo to the Nets and Schumpert to Portland made more sense.

6.) 15 Nov 2019 15:36:13
Why would Portland need Shumpert? Their 5 best players right now are Lillard, McCollum, Simons, Bazemore, and Hood. Hood's the only one over 6'4. The need someone with some size that isn't useless. If anything, I was hoping for a true PF. Though with Faried in China, there's not much left to sign.

All that said, they still desperately need to make a trade on December 15th. They can't wait for the trade deadline, it has to be as soon as possible unless they want to write this season off as a lost season.

7.) 15 Nov 2019 19:23:34
Shumpert was playing 3 in Houston and Sacramento.

What you give for Bjelica once Bagley is back?




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02 Dec 2020 13:34:17
But why trade picks for Vuc just to flip him for picks? Make this a 3 team with him going somewhere else.




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02 Dec 2020 03:37:26
The Thunder aren’t looking to compete, and Vuc isn’t the level of star that changes that opinion.




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01 Dec 2020 22:33:17
The value is right (McCollum and Russell have similar value right? ), but Portland isn’t going to get considerably worse short term for a likely lottery pick.




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Culver has waaaaay more value than that.




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30 Nov 2020 21:51:59
Yeah, saying you wouldn’t trade Smart (a nice role player) for Siakam (an all star) is total lunacy.

It’s like me saying I wouldn’t trade Jusuf Nurkic for AD.





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