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09 Sep 2019 03:48:07
Brooklyn trades Joe Harris
Brooklyn gets Bjelica

With Chandlers suspension and Kurus' DUI, Brooklyn only really have 2 bigs and could use Bjelica's strech 4 capabilities.

Indy trades Miles Turner
Indy gets Joe Harris and Bogdan Bojanovich and lottery protected 1st.

Adds wing depth while Oladipo recovers and frees minutes for Bitadze.

Sacramento trades Bogdan Bojanovich, Bjelica, and lottery protected 1st
Sacramento gets Miles Turner.

Consolidates roster and makes and interesting front lines of Turner and Bagley.


1.) 09 Sep 2019 16:41:47
I like it for Indy and Sac. Questionable for Brooklyn, but possible.

2.) 09 Sep 2019 18:27:01
BMiller, if Sac tosses in a 2nd rounder to Brooklyn would that move them from "Questionable" to "Lets do it"?

3.) 11 Sep 2019 15:37:05
Indiana says no to this. Without getting a stretch 4 in return to compliment Sabonis then the Pacers say no. Sub Giles for Bajonovich and then maybe.



18 Aug 2019 17:02:39
MEM/ Lakers

Memphis trades Dwight Howard
Lakers trade Demarcus Cousins + 2023 2nd rounder (Lakers earliest available draft pick) .

Would have to wait until Dec 15, but doubt Memphis just buys out Howard unless he gives them a great deal (like 75% discount) .


1.) 18 Aug 2019 17:26:10
It would be worth it just to send James's reaction when Howard starts goofing off in the middle of a game.



01 Aug 2019 23:50:19
Paul +Denver's 2020 First to Indiana for

McDermott+TJ Warren+Lamb+TJ Leaf.

After the Dec 15 FA signing deadline passes.

Paul fills in as Oladipo recovers and becomes happier playing for a playoff team.


1.) 02 Aug 2019 09:48:33
CP3 to Indy isn't a bad fit and i like the idea.
But i don't want to give up good assets for him
And we have Brogdon for the pointguard spot.

What about this one:
Indy: CP3+SGA+ 1rnd pick Denver 2020 and 2rnd pick Hou 2022
OKC: Brogdon+ Lamb+Leaf.

2.) 02 Aug 2019 12:39:56
Feel Indy gave up too much to get Brogdon to trade him away. I think a Brogdon-Paul backcourt just might be best backcourt in the East. And Oladipo is on the way.

Left out the $10 mil in salary OKC saves this year to get well under the luxury tax.



25 Jul 2019 17:22:37
Just curious from the Lakers and OKC fans. If Kawhi had said to the Lakers to trade Anthony Davis for Paul George and he would sign with the Lakers. Do the Lakers do the deal? Does OKC accept the straight up offer?


1.) 25 Jul 2019 18:05:41
No way OKC would do it straight up considering AD's desire to play in a big market and only 1 year remaining on his deal.

2.) 25 Jul 2019 19:06:51
Davis would had vetoed this trade and stayed with the Lakers.

3.) 25 Jul 2019 20:15:11
I believe Lakers would bc that would be a great Big 3 that would make them championship contenders for years. Idk abt Okc tho since I doubt AD would resign back.

4.) 25 Jul 2019 20:21:32
I think both sides would do it.

If you're the Lakers, that's a no brainer. Davis vs Kawhi and George really isn't even close. Maybe you're looked at as having little loyalty, but no one cares about the team's lack of loyalty to players.

OKC probably does too. They could flip AD for an enormous haul. Or make it a three way deal where they pull in a final landing point for AD and get OKC those assets.

5.) 25 Jul 2019 19:44:12
So the Rich Paul agent angle would come into play.

6.) 26 Jul 2019 09:33:40
The biggest problem with this is the kind of team the Lakers would’ve become if Okc did this.
AD would do us no good. LA would’ve been so dominant for several more years(Golden State 2.0). We wouldn’t be competitive for a championship even if AD signed & stayed with Okc, but that never would’ve happened.
And no other team would give us much for him unless they had assurances he would stay with them after the following year.

7.) 26 Jul 2019 15:09:26
Haven't we proved that teams will give up massive trade packages for players without assurance they'll stay?

8.) 26 Jul 2019 23:15:47
Bmiller66, tell me which of those recent dealings the player did end up staying.
PG is the only one that sort of did and because of that, Okc was able to recoup some assets for him. Ultimately he left to go play for the city he said he wanted to play for initially.

Kawhi played one season and bolted to the city he said he wanted to go play for.

That being said, which team would be willing to trade for him heavily, not knowing where he will probably bolt off too after the season is over, if they don’t get some kind of assurance and believe he may resign with them?



07 Jul 2019 14:53:30
OKC Westbrook

DET Jackson, Snell, Kennard, Doumbouya + 2 first round picks.


1.) 07 Jul 2019 15:44:45
That’s to much for Westbrook.

2.) 07 Jul 2019 16:08:07
i think it's a fair trade, maybe the 2 first needs a protection.

3.) 07 Jul 2019 22:04:01
Players all suck so the picks is all okc get.

4.) 07 Jul 2019 22:41:13
Ok. Lottery protect the picks.

5.) 07 Jul 2019 22:49:33
Swap Galloway for Snell.




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13 Sep 2019 22:30:02
For my NBA fantasy team, which gets the start at PF in Phoenix Kaminsky or Saric?


1.) 14 Sep 2019 13:44:58
If i where them i would start Saric. I could be wrong i'm not looking at stats but i'm pretty sure he is the better floor stretcher and stays healthier.



06 Sep 2019 20:32:04
So if Sacramento Kings' Bjelica and Bogdanovich are key in helping Jokic lead Serbia to the Gold Medal at the World Cup, does their trade value increase? And if so, how much is the increase? Can their $14 mil salary and a lottery protected first round pick get a borderline All-Star?


1.) 07 Sep 2019 11:17:41
Patty mills is killing the World Cup go the Aussies.

2.) 07 Sep 2019 11:43:13
It’s hard to imagine a team trading a star and wanting back some older players as the meat of the trade. Maybe, if you brought in a third team, they’ve both upped their value a little and you could get some young assets back to flip.

3.) 07 Sep 2019 13:02:32
Remember I was saying a borderline All-Star. I was thinking someone like Lamarcus Alridge or Aaron Gordon. Maybe even a Covington (switch the 1st for a couple of 2nds)?

Kings roster is soo deep, they need to start packaging players.

Fox/ Joseph/ Farrell
Hield/ Bogdanovich/ James
Barnes/ Ariza
Bagley/ Bjelica/ Giles
Dedmond/ Holmes/ Swanigan

Could they get into the KAT sweepstakes without giving up Fox/ Hield/ Bagley?

4.) 07 Sep 2019 15:52:53
Maybe Aldridge. I can’t see them getting KAT without Bagley being involved unless Giles takes a huge leap or something else.



13 Aug 2019 17:27:02
Notable 2020 RESTRICTED Free Agents

Pascal Siakam
Brandon Ingram
Jaylen Brown
Kris Dunn
Buddy Hield
Bodgan Bogdanovich
Donantas Sabonis
Carl LeVert
Dejounte Murry
Dario Saric
Taurean Prince

Forecast which player get offers that are not matched by their current teams

For me, its Dunn, LaVert and Saric.



1.) 13 Aug 2019 22:06:29
Ingram, Brown, Levert, Murray and Prince could all be candidates for that.

2.) 13 Aug 2019 22:49:00
I know San Antonio loves Murray. Doubt he gets a high/ max offer with all the PG prospects in next years draft.

3.) 14 Aug 2019 17:36:59
Who is offering Dunn a big deal?

4.) 15 Aug 2019 00:40:39
Better question, Shiller. Is Chicago offering Dunn a qualifying offer. I say no, so he will sign with someone (Dallas? ) On the cheap.

5.) 15 Aug 2019 14:42:09
If Murray has a goood year, he has the potential to get thrown a big offer as a restricted guy. The Spurs aren’t going to want to over pay him. If a dude like Rozier gets close to 20, who knows what Murray could get.



12 Aug 2019 20:53:47
National televised games

Knicks 6
Bulls 4
Kings 8.

So much for large markets.


1.) 12 Aug 2019 22:22:23
The Kings are going fun to watch.

2.) 15 Aug 2019 14:45:29
Is Sacramento a big market? Even if the guy population density is ridiculous in the area, they’ve been really bad, the Lakers are the Lakers, and GS and the Clips have both been really good. They don’t have many fans. They should be really fun for the foreseeable future.

3.) 15 Aug 2019 16:47:47
No they are not a big market (ranked 29th out of all 30 NBA teams in market size) . Yet, they are getting more televised games than NY or Chicago (2 of the top 3 markets) simply because of their improved talent on the roster and the fast pace that they play with (which actually should go up with the addition of Coach Walton) . The scarier thing is that NBA could have easily choosen to televise other West Coast teams instead of the 6 the Kings got.



02 Aug 2019 14:30:32
I think young stars like KAT and Booker are not going to be asking for trades anytime soon. Why? Because there is a fair likelihood that Minny or Phoenix will trade those stars to OKC. Sometimes the grass is greener than the tumbleweed blowing down the street.


1.) 02 Aug 2019 17:09:41
I think KAT would end up on a pretty good team or up and coming team if he asked out. Portland, Atlanta, Boston, Sacramento, NO would likely all be interested and have the assets to get him. I've definitely tried to figure out how to get a KAT/ Collins big pairing in Portland, but it feels unlikely (I'll go work on that again! ) .

OKC picking up one of them seems like a disaster. Why give up a bunch of assets for a guy that has proved to not be good enough to lead a team to the playoffs? Neither has the feel of more than a second option.

2.) 02 Aug 2019 17:29:18
Whiteside, Bazemore, Nurkic, Little, Simons, three firsts for Towns, Wiggins, Covington, Napier, and Wallace (or any other low salary filler) .

Maybe not quite enough from Portland, but I don't think it's an insulting offer.

Portland's obvious starters: Lillard, McCollum, Towns
Role players: Wiggins, Covington, Collins, Hood
Extended rotation: Gasol, Hezonja, Tolliver.




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15 Sep 2019 21:29:06
Knicks have cap space?




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15 Sep 2019 18:01:00
"It wasn't me. "




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15 Sep 2019 02:23:13
So Golden State has only $4 mil cap space left beneath the "hard apron cap level", how are they suppose to take on the additional $8 mil in salary shown here?

Perhaps Johnson + Bridges + multiple firsts?




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14 Sep 2019 22:47:49
Hmmmm. Didn't I say trade deadline? I thought I said trade deadline. Let's see. Oh, what do you know? I did say trade deadline. Also, read 2 different report suggesting Nurkic could be back by the trade deadline as well. Or can change into Iggy + Plumlee for Whiteside + Skal + pick.




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14 Sep 2019 20:29:21
Actually Houston's 2020 first is available for trade or the worse of Houston/ Miami/ OKC 2021 first rounder is available for trade now according to RealGM.





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