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28 Jan 2022 15:55:23
Yahoo Sports’ Chris Haynes reported on his Posted Up podcast (28:40 mark) : “League sources have told me the Lakers have reached out to the Kings about a Talen Horton-Tucker package for Hield. Still trying to make that happen. Obviously, the Kings are like, ‘No. We feel like there’s more lucrative deals out there. ’ The Kings are going to be active. They’ve got a whole bunch of people calling them. ”


So its sounds like demand may drive up the trade values for Kings players like Hield, Barnes and Holmes.

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27 Jan 2022 16:24:25
And it appears that there was a lot of truth to those rumors. According to NBA insider Marc Stein, the Los Angeles Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka was ready to pull the trigger on the move to bring Buddy Hield to the Lakers. But the Lakers’ superstars LeBron James and Anthony Davis convinced Pelinka to bring in Russell Westbrook instead.

"Rob Pelinka wanted to and planned to trade for Buddy Hield but James and Davis encouraged him to go after Westbrook. "

Fredman

1.) 27 Jan 2022 16:44:21
Yeah. Terrible decision.


2.) 27 Jan 2022 19:41:07
That's why you don't let players be GM's. What a disaster.


 

 

27 Jan 2022 14:53:40
Cavs trade Love + Rubio

Lakers trade Westbrook.

Fredman

1.) 27 Jan 2022 15:08:15
Cavs should receive a second round pick to do this, maybe two.

Love is playing good.
Westbrook would be a great addition, if he want to play behind Garland and lead that young squad, but i doubt he would take that role.


2.) 27 Jan 2022 15:22:18
Rubio is out for the year, so this makes very little sense for the Lakers.


3.) 27 Jan 2022 15:30:56
This really feels like a great way to ruin a good fun young team.


4.) 27 Jan 2022 16:58:02
cavs gm gets fired. statue is built of rob pelinka.


5.) 27 Jan 2022 16:58:21
"redemption rob"


6.) 27 Jan 2022 19:42:41
I'd rather have Kevin Love over Russell Westbrook. This is an easy no from Cleveland.


 

 

26 Jan 2022 20:15:48
Sacramento trades Buddy Hield

Dallas trades Tim Hardaway Jr (injured rest of the season? ) + first round pick 2 years after 2023 pick is conveyed to NYK (2025-2027)

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24 Jan 2022 15:10:40
In return for Simmons, the 76ers have wanted a top-level All-Star or a package featuring a bevy of first-round draft picks for Simmons.

For Simmons, the 76ers have asked the Kings for guard Tyrese Haliburton and multiple first-round picks, and asked for a package around John Collins and multiple first-round picks from the Hawks along with Atlanta taking on Tobias Harris, multiple sources tell The Athletic. The Athletic reported on Wednesday that the Kings do not plan to move De’Aaron Fox or Haliburton and want to build around them.

Fredman

1.) 24 Jan 2022 15:24:13
Morey seems more and more delusional as the days go on. Simmons won’t be moved until the offseason, and Philly fans should be irate that he just wasted a season.


2.) 24 Jan 2022 17:47:23
Philly really should have taken Indiana's offer from last year.

Morey wanting to add Harris to any deal won't help. He'll get much less in return.


3.) 24 Jan 2022 17:49:17
Also, the amount of “we’ll just trade for a superstar in the offseason” comments I’ve seen is insane. Portland fans have said that for a decade. Knicks fans for 20+ years. It’s rarely a mentality that works out.


4.) 24 Jan 2022 18:55:19
Agreed on the Indy point. I believe they offered Brogdon and pick 13, right? Brogdon is in the same tier is Simmons to me, a straight up deal wouldn’t be bad for Philly. With Duarte’s year, that deal looks like a steal for Philly.


 

 

 

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20 Jan 2022 18:22:19
Long before Russell Westbrook was benched down the stretch of Wednesday’s 111-104 loss to the Indiana Pacers, Los Angeles Lakers coach Frank Vogel was given assurances that the organization would support him in taking a hard line while coaching the star, sources told ESPN.

Over the past week and a half, Lakers management has told the coaching staff to coach Westbrook as the coaches see fit, even if that means pulling him from a game, as Vogel did for the final 3 minutes, 52 seconds of the fourth quarter against Indiana, sources told ESPN.

One source close to the situation described the message from management to the staff as, “You got to do what you got to do. ”.

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14 Jan 2022 23:14:16
More than one rival team believes Sacramento, in its desire for a significant shakeup as it bumbles toward a record 16th consecutive season out of the playoffs, could be convinced to take on Tobias Harris’ contract to facilitate a Simmons deal.

  via Marc Stein @ marcstein. substack. com.

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08 Jan 2022 16:53:34
According to Bleacher Report (Yea, I know)

Some executives around the league view McCollum as a negative trade asset, one the Blazers would need to send with compensation to get him off the team’s books.

Fredman

1.) 08 Jan 2022 21:35:07
Seeeesh. Blazers won't ever attach an asset. They would rather keep the guy.


2.) 09 Jan 2022 05:44:30
Lillard will be joining him soon.


3.) 09 Jan 2022 16:52:36
There were rumors that a team was willing to give up a top 10 pick for him this last summer. There’s no way his value has fallen off that much.

He’s a guy that doesn’t fit everywhere, but I don’t think Portland would find it hard to move him when to do it.


And no, Lillard won’t join that club. No possible way. In a world where Westbrook had value up to this last summer, Dame will have value for years to come. An injury doesn’t instantly make him valueless.


4.) 09 Jan 2022 19:25:52
I'm not saying it's the case right now but it could be just around the corner for both of them. Portland should act quickly because their value is on the decline.


5.) 09 Jan 2022 20:14:57
Seems like nightcap doesn't really like the Blazers especially Lillard.


6.) 09 Jan 2022 22:30:46
I have nothing against the Blazers or Lillard, but we all know he's on the wrong side of 30 and what his future earnings look like right? Paying a guy for what he's already done is bad business.


7.) 10 Jan 2022 01:03:05
I’d pay that much for the 2nd best PG in the league.


8.) 10 Jan 2022 02:52:21
I think Ja is seriously coming for that 2nd best PG title.


9.) 10 Jan 2022 04:46:56
With the way he’s leading us to a top 4 spot in west so far I can definitely see it.


 

 

03 Jan 2022 18:12:34
I think there is an interesting message to be found within the Lakers-Cavs-Knicks trade involving Rondo.

The Cavs were sending the Lakers a partially-guaranteed ($500K) . However, if the Lakers waived Valentine they would be stuck with the $500K + $1.25 mil in luxury tax. So they sent Valentine to a team under the luxury tax with the cash to pay for his $500K and a little extra for NY's cap space (lets say $250K) .

This message? Lakers are starting to count pennies when it comes to this current roster and may not be open to adding additional salary at the trade deadline.

Fredman

1.) 04 Jan 2022 15:08:55
I didn’t see that as counting pennies. They simply made a prudent financial decision considering they didn’t want Valentine. It left them an open roster spot and didn’t hit their cap.

Smart? Yeah. Signs of them not spending in the future? I don’t think so.

If the move was there, why wouldn’t they save the money? They didn’t even have to give up any draft compensation to do it.


 

 

03 Jan 2022 01:56:18
Just out of curiosity, at this moment, which player has the higher trade value?

Sabonis or Simmons?

Fredman

1.) 03 Jan 2022 04:23:08
Sabonis.


2.) 03 Jan 2022 04:58:14
I’d say Simmons since he’s young, more athletic and a way better defender.

Sabonis does have a really good contract for a team looking to add a 3rd star.


3.) 03 Jan 2022 17:11:21
I trade Sabonis for simmons in a second.


4.) 03 Jan 2022 17:35:56
Personally, I think it is an even toss up. Sabonis is not the defender Simmons is, but is a much better shooter. Simmons is younger, but Sabonis is $11 mil cheaper this year (nearly $90 mil cheaper in guaranteed salary) . And I am not even going to bring up which one brings baggage to their new team.

I asked this question as more as a determinate for what should be added to a Sabonis for Simmons trade. If the two players are about equal in trade value, but Indy has to add assets (salary) to match Simmons salary, then Philly will most likely have to add non- or low-salary valuable assets (draft picks) to the trade to equal out the values.


5.) 03 Jan 2022 17:47:02
If I were trading good value I'd go with the surer thing in Sabonis. If I could just pick one to add to my team for no cost it'd be Simmons. To answer the question, I don't know.


6.) 05 Jan 2022 19:47:59
I’m biased because his dad was one of my favorite players ever, but I’d take Sabonis. On the court, they’re fairly close. But Sabonis seems like a considerably better locker room presence.


 

 

 

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29 Jan 2022 03:35:39
@NBA16 it's the same unprotected pick that you have going to Boston (pick 8-11) in the Brown deal. So Kings keep Fox and one of their first rounders.

And Kings don't need Smart as they already have Mitchell.

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29 Jan 2022 03:28:44
Boston going to use most of Fournier's TPE to take on Huerter's poison pill contract?

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28 Jan 2022 23:09:03
Kings would rather take Huerter than Harrell.

So Bagley to WASH, Harrell to ATL and Huerter to SAC.

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28 Jan 2022 23:05:58
If I can get Collins for Hield+first, I would much rather do that than this offer.

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28 Jan 2022 21:52:40
Morey wants Atl to go trade their picks for someone like Beal and then send Beal/ Lillard to Philly.

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