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30 Sep 2022 22:18:53
Suns coach Monty Williams confirmed what Crowder heard — Cameron Johnson will start at the four for the Suns this season.

via Marc Spear and Ramona Shelbourne.




28 Sep 2022 17:40:01
The Miami Heat reportedly made a trade offer for Jae Crowder, per Action Network. A pair of sources said the deal included Duncan Robinson and a protected first-round pick. However, the Phoenix Suns ultimately were not interested in the deal and felt as if they could get more for Crowder.

This gives us an idea what Phoenix's asking price is for Crowder.


1.) 28 Sep 2022 21:21:21
And then Pat Riley called James Jones a "mother bleeper".

2.) 28 Sep 2022 22:12:48
Well a 1st is what it takes at least just to move Robinson.

3.) 30 Sep 2022 07:31:02
Robinson too expensive to come off the bench for any team. talent wise yes he is a bench player/ fringe starter but way overpaid.



26 Sep 2022 14:28:59
Sacramento trades Rashuan Holmes

Phoenix trades Jae Crowder.


1.) 27 Sep 2022 03:54:07
Man, Phoenix media day really seems like the media day of a non-playoff team. Can they fall that far with all the drama?



25 Sep 2022 05:53:40
Part of the explanation


John Gambadoro

Talks with the Suns and Jazz broke down over Bojan Bogdanovic when Phoenix wanted Utah to add young power forward Jarred Vanderbilt to the package.




22 Sep 2022 18:11:04
“I'm told the Lakers and Pacers did engage in some trade conversations this week and the Pacers' demand for two unprotected first-round picks … is just not appealing for the Lakers. ”

NBA Insider
reports on the Pacers' plans to keep Myles Turner into the season.


1.) 23 Sep 2022 00:07:53
Indy has no use for Turner or Hield now that they commited to a rebuild. They should settle for one first, it's better than nothing.

2.) 23 Sep 2022 08:31:51
Indy should wait until trade deadline to see how desperate teams get.




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01 Oct 2022 01:22:51
Tier 1: The Elite

1. Nikola Jokic

Tier 2: All-Star anchors

2. Joel Embiid

3. Karl-Anthony Towns

Tier 3: High-floor veterans with All-Star potential

4. Bam Adebayo

5. Domantas Sabonis

6. Myles Turner

7. Nikola Vucevic

8. Kristaps Porzingis

9. Deandre Ayton

10. Rudy Gobert

Per Fantasy analyst Dan Titus.




21 Sep 2022 11:01:19
Can someone here explain to me how ESPN ranked Jalen Brunson ahead of De'aron Fox on their top PG list for 2022? I would also like to hear the argument for SGA being a better PG as well. Cade Cunningham? WTF?


1.) 22 Sep 2022 14:43:43
Brunson made the playoffs :-p
And he plays for the knicks :-)

just my opinion
SG Alexander >Fox>> Cunningham >>> Brunson.

2.) 22 Sep 2022 15:08:39
I'd put SGA in a tier above Fox, in a tier above Cade and Jalen.

3.) 22 Sep 2022 20:46:15
Why distinguishes the 2 tiers between SGA and Fox? They are not significantly different and Fox has the better winning percentage. So I don't understand what appears to be the large difference most people perceive. Or a Sacramento King bias?

4.) 23 Sep 2022 15:20:40
It seems to me that SGA is a little closer to become an All star
Maybe it's perception, i thought the Kings should be a playoff team two years ago, While OKC is rebuilding.
that perception could turn around if the Kings make the playoffs and SGA becomes disgruntled losing games with OKC

Also Fox is from 1997 and SGA is from 1998. It's only a six months difference, but the perception is that SGA was only 23 last season and Fox is 25 this year

But i would like both of them in a Pacers jersey and i would give up 4 picks for both of them.

5.) 24 Sep 2022 19:07:41
I feel like Fox has had a lot more help.

6.) 28 Sep 2022 20:01:06
SGA is already a great player, with upside. Would like to see him in Dallas - maybe the most perfect complement to Doncic. If Thunder would make him available, Mavs should offer Green and 2st + e. g. THJ.



17 Sep 2022 05:17:44
And yes, sources say, that’s still the case after the Friday news from our Shams Charania that veteran point guard Dennis Schröder is returning to the Lakers this season.  Yet, while the Lakers have been hopeful the Westbrook experiment might be a success this time, sources with knowledge of the situation told The Athletic that the prospect of Westbrook coming off the bench is being strongly considered.
Source: Jovan Buha, Sam Amick, Jovan Buha and Sam Amick @ The Athletic.




09 Sep 2022 20:16:55
"Based on the executives I'm talking to, they believe that the Lakers have come to the conclusion that they are not going to trade Westbrook now because they don't like any of their offers and they're going to try to make the best of it and see what happens. That's what the executives think, " Brian Windhorst of ESPN said on on Brian Windhorst & The Hoop Collective, as transcribed by Tyler Conway of Bleacher Report.

And the trade offers are going to get better because?


1.) 11 Sep 2022 03:09:37
maybe a team that thought they'd be in a playoff fight but aren't at the deadline might want to dump a bad contract for Russ and 1 of the picks since much of the 47M would already be paid out. could the Knicks get down enough on Randle to trade him and salary ballast? Washington and Porzingas?
For the trading team the buyout would be reduced enough by then that one of the picks may get it done.

2.) 20 Sep 2022 09:06:44
Indy should do the Turner and Hield trade for Westbrook and two picks.



02 Sep 2022 01:35:25
Kendrick Nunn, who was a Laker last season but missed the entirety of the season (a rarity for the injury type) due to a bone bruise, is progressing quite slowly, a bad sign for the Lakers as training camp is right around the corner.

Speaking to Michael Scotto, here's what The Athletic's Jovan Buha had to say about Nunn's injury progression:

"He's been around the facility shooting and working out. It's been a slower than anticipated ramp-up. They've got Pat, so he's the best addition of the offseason.





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01 Oct 2022 23:57:40
@Windrap. Disagree with your Bucks take.




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30 Sep 2022 09:25:19
Bucks need Lopez vs Embiid more than they need Clarkson.




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30 Sep 2022 05:12:34
Confused why you all think Green has some value?




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29 Sep 2022 23:16:11
I feel like the Suns need a big in return for Crowder based upon their roster. Not much beind Johnson and Ayton at the 4/ 5.




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29 Sep 2022 23:13:36
Just not seeing the Sun's trading to one of their main competitors in the WC.





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29 Sep 2022 09:26:03
Yea, I think us Kings fans are setting ourselves up for a disappointment. Those first 10 gamesofthe season are rough.




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25 Sep 2022 19:14:49
We know what it's like being a fan. However, we don't know what it's like being a fanatic.




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22 Sep 2022 20:46:15
Why distinguishes the 2 tiers between SGA and Fox? They are not significantly different and Fox has the better winning percentage. So I don't understand what appears to be the large difference most people perceive. Or a Sacramento King bias?




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14 Sep 2022 09:41:03
Utah is going to want more picks.




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09 Sep 2022 20:05:52
I think moving Westbrook to the bench at the 6th Man and less minutes for Lebron during the season wins more games for the Lakers.