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26 Oct 2020 15:38:37
Latest Rumor out of Real GM website says because NBA lost $1.5 Billion in revenue and the salary cap is based on last years revenues, so the upcoming season's salary cap will be LOWERED anywhere from $3 mil to $12 mil (AKA $106 mil to $97 mil salary caps) .

This means only around 10 teams will have cap space this upcoming FA period. That number will drop once the cap holds on the guaranteed contracts for 1st round picks are included. So it is quite possible that only 2 teams (Detroit and Atlanta), will have any significant cap space when the FA period begins.

Additional impacts of this

1. RFAs like Ingram, Van Fleet and Bogdanovich will be more tempted to accept the Qualifying Offer in order to be UFAs in the following FA period which may have significantly more cap space available.

2. The price for "salary dumps" just went up because of limited supply of available cap space and probably an increase in demand from teams looking to dump salary as luxury tax amounts will increase with the lower luxury tax level.

3. The trade price for non-guaranteed contracts like Gibson/ Portis (Knicks) or ilyasova (Bucks) went as well. Or Knicks can join Detroit and Atlanta by waiving around $40 mil in non-guaranteed contracts.

Just some information to take into consideration when you are developing your teams trade "rumors".

Fredman

1.) 26 Oct 2020 16:42:32
I could see that group trying to take 1+1 contracts (less likely) or two year deals. There might not be too many of those available, but I could see teams preferring to give a guy two years over him just taking the QO.


2.) 26 Oct 2020 17:07:47
It also might put teams in weird places with their stars. Will AD go max length deal and the likely valley of the cap? Or does he do 1+1, which puts a lot of pressure on the Lakers and Lebron to not stumble next year.

Does Giannis take a 1+1 wherever he ends up after next season? Or does he just lock in.

And even for existing extensions. This likely reduces Lillard’s extension quite drastically. If the cap is 97 million when his extension kicks in, his first year salary (estimated at the time of signing at 43.7 million) would drop to 33.95. That’s a big difference, especially if the cap then skyrockets back up to 110+.

Lots of really interesting moving pieces.


3.) 26 Oct 2020 17:46:05
Amnesty should come back.


4.) 26 Oct 2020 18:46:03
I think a halt on luxury tax (or at least not lowering it with the salary cap) would be smart.


5.) 26 Oct 2020 23:42:39
So, BMiller, you do understand that putting a hold on the luxury tax does the exact opposite for why the luxury tax rules were imposed? AKA evening the $$$$$ playing field between big and small market teams.

Also, I wouldn't count on the cap rising next season either. At least not until teams can fill arenas for 82 games + playoffs.


6.) 27 Oct 2020 04:11:35
Halting luxury tax stops teams from going through a fire sale (especially small market teams) to save money due to lowered revenue.

Not saying permanently. But two years of adjusted luxury tax could help the league as a whole.

Yeah, I expect the cap to go down for two years, then spike back up in 2022.


7.) 27 Oct 2020 12:04:47
Small market teams are not the ones significantly over the luxury cap. So this actually benefits the large market teams more.


 

 

23 Aug 2020 22:20:02
Really feel that the Simmons-Embiid experiment is at and end.

Philly trades Embiid
GSW trades Wiggins, #2 pick and GSW 2021 first

Simmons/ Richardson/ Wiggins/ Harris/ Horford (Wiseman? )

Curry/ Thompson/ Bazemore (MLE) / Green/ Embiid.

Fredman

1.) 23 Aug 2020 22:53:13
overpaid Wiggins, #2 pick in weak draft and late first?
For top 3 center in the league?

This would be even more stupid than how the front office constructed phi roster. But they would want a lot more.


2.) 23 Aug 2020 22:57:48
Simmons should play powerforward

Can Cleveland get involved?

Cle: #2 (draft Wiseman)

Philly: Sexton+ # 5 (draft Avdija)


3.) 23 Aug 2020 23:29:06
Love that Bazemore signing. Harkless could be a good candidate too.


4.) 23 Aug 2020 23:41:04
Does philly take wiseman and have the same problem? Or go for lamelo or edwards? I personally think wolves taking edwards?


5.) 23 Aug 2020 23:51:04
Nowhere near enough for Embiid. A 2nd Pick and late 1st and Wiggins? Get outta here.


6.) 24 Aug 2020 00:20:30
Embiid would be perfect for the dubs given his ability to shoot and his aggressive playstyle. Not to mention he sets killer screens which is always good for players like steph. That being said, I think lots of teams can offer more by including a young potential star. The 2nd pick is a good asset but the warriors would need to give more for this trade to be realistic.
I’m sure the sixers would have no issue keeping Embiid if they can’t get more than that.


7.) 24 Aug 2020 00:53:37
There's still two guys who can't shoot on that roster (Horford and Simmons) . If I'm Philly I trade Simmons.


8.) 24 Aug 2020 01:12:05
I actually think Fredman posted a very fair trade. Embiid misses a lot of time. A lot of time. He's a top three center when he plays, which is half the time. Philly has babied Embiid and Simmons. People forget how young Wiggins still is. He's always been overshadowed by Towns. I think he could really put up some numbers in the East. Plus another high pick to develop with him and another pick next year. If Philly can get more for Embiid, then get it but Fredman's trade is good for both teams.


9.) 24 Aug 2020 01:31:48
Agree with Doza on trading Simmons. Philly is in a very bad financial situation, too. Unless the owner wants to lose millions over the next five years with an average team in the East, Philly is going to have to start trading Embiid, Simmons, Harris, Horford and Richardson for the best deal that comes along. Can't keep Embiid as he's not going to be happy on a rebuilding team. Time for a full blown tear down. I don't see any other option with those high salaries on a team that's not very good.


10.) 24 Aug 2020 01:38:54
Excuse me did u just say horford can’t shoot? That’s just ignorant to his game. He is one of the best team players In the league. Sure the sixers over payed him but he contributes to winning if he gets to play center. He was forced to play pf. Abt the bad shooting, .350 3pt percentage on 4.2 attempts per game is good. Better than embiid in fact.


 

 

22 Aug 2020 02:21:18
Surprised no one has thrown this one out yet.

Minny trades #1, #17, Culver, Johnson (expiring)

Phoenix trades Booker.

Phoenix drafts Edwards and Precious

Rubio/ Edwards/ Oubre/ Precious/ Ayton.

Fredman

1.) 22 Aug 2020 03:15:10
Don’t forget 10th pick as well. They can draft a PG with that pick.


2.) 22 Aug 2020 03:59:50
I think Phoenix would want okogie too but otherwise good trade.


3.) 22 Aug 2020 14:57:54
Because it will never happen. Phx isn't trading booker. Edward's is a project but because this draft is so bad he's a poss. #1 pick. In a good draft he may not even be a lottery pick. U could offer 5 first rounders in this draft and Phx would still be losing.


4.) 22 Aug 2020 22:27:31
Totally agree with Skills.


 

 

21 Aug 2020 02:55:20
#2 pick + $17 mil trade exception for Bogdanovich S&T + #12 pick

Or

#2 pick + Wiggins for Hield + #12?

Fredman

1.) 21 Aug 2020 03:54:58
I think Hield + #12 might be a slight overpay considering Wiggins' contract. What about #2 + Wiggins for Hield, Holmes, #35, assuming Edwards goes #1 and the Kings would be getting a Center in Wiseman at #2 anyway?


2.) 21 Aug 2020 04:34:37
1st trade isn't helping GS. 2nd trade is better.


3.) 21 Aug 2020 06:32:46
Wiggens and Hield both over paid 3ed tier players.


 

 

13 Aug 2020 15:13:57
Just going to toss this one out there.

Philly trades Horford+Scott

Washington trades Wall.

Fredman

1.) 13 Aug 2020 15:49:42
Incredibly risky move for Phili, but could be a great one too. If Wall comes back at even 75% of what he was, he’d put them into the top tier of the league.


2.) 13 Aug 2020 15:51:37
Helluva toss.


3.) 13 Aug 2020 16:34:15
Throw Simmons and Beal in and I like it. I don’t think you can have Wall, Simmons and Embiid on the court together.


4.) 13 Aug 2020 17:48:43
Wall and Simmons pairing? Ew.


5.) 13 Aug 2020 19:29:47
rkenne16, would you rather have Wall, Simmons, Embiid on the court together or Horford, Simmons, Embiid?

But I concede your point that the team would probably need a new "strong" coach to manage these 3 players.


6.) 13 Aug 2020 19:38:57
the only thing you should toss are salads ;>.


7.) 13 Aug 2020 20:11:19
Wall just needs to come back and play whatever role giving then go from there. start pg on any team but needs to shoot the ball atheist 30% and can play solid D his size and speed will keep him on the court. if healthy.


8.) 13 Aug 2020 22:44:44
No for the wizards. I say this for almost every wall trade. It’s not because the value is totally bad but instead bc the wizards have faith that wall will get back to pre injury form. Whether or not he actually does is a totally different question but I know for a fact that their gm would much rather keep wall, especially if he’s getting a mediocre player on just as bad of a contract in horford.


9.) 14 Aug 2020 00:33:03
I was looking at the $10 mil per year Washington saves over the next 3 years. Draft Wall's replacement at #8 and have Horford/ Bryant platoon the 5 spot.


10.) 15 Aug 2020 04:19:24
Agree with Fredman. Trade Wall, draft his replacement and save a ton of money.


 

 

 

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21 Aug 2020 02:04:38
LOL. Knicks @ NBA Lottery. Always best night of the year.

Fredman

1.) 21 Aug 2020 06:26:09
Ya that was actually hilarious i'm from miami but grew up a twolves fan. My dads from Minneapolis so of course we win this lotto and there is no clear cut prospect. who do yall think they should take? I think Edwards.


2.) 21 Aug 2020 09:23:59
So, so funny.
Knicks still paying the price for the NBA cheating to give them Patrick Ewing in the 1980s.
At least this means the end of all those whacko trade proposals where the Knicks get the No. 1 overall pick and trade it along with Bobby Portis for Devin Booker.


 

 

14 Aug 2020 00:28:22
Okay, let's have a conversation about salary dumping Horford. I have seen a wide variation about what people Philly should have to pay in order to get Horford's horrible contract (3 years remaining/ $81 mil with $69 guaranteed) . The variation has a lot to do with what people value (late? ) first round picks are worth. So I am going to attempt to answer this by showing what the market says by looking at different salary dump trades.

The first is the July 7th,2019 GSW trading Iggy (1yr @ $17 mil) and a 2024 Top 4 protected first round pick to Memphis. Pretty cut and dry. late first rounder = $17 mil in salary.

Next is the July 6th, 2019, 4 team (Miami-Philly-Portland-Clippers) trade. A component of this trade is Portland sending Mo Harkless (1 yr/ $11 mil) and a 2023 lottery protected first rounder via Miami. Again, pretty cut and dry. First rounder = $11 mil in salary

Lastly, on July 13, 2018. Denver sent Darrell Arther (1 year @ $7.5 mil) and Kenneth Faried (1 year @ $13.7 mil) to Atlanta for a 2019 first rounder and a 2020 second rounder. So, since 2nd rounders can be purchased on draft day for up to $3 mil, I am going to say that this deal is later first rounder = $18 mil.

This all shows that the market that a first rounder purchases is between $11-$18 mil. Now apply that price to Horford's remaining guaranteed salary ($69 mil/ $18 mil) and that mean that it will require AT LEAST 3 (3.83333) if not 4 first round picks to dump his salary.

Now assume that Philly can get a PG13 trade package for Simmons which I seriously doubt because OKC had the Clippers over a barrel, but Philly will not have that negotiation position. So if Simmons and Horford are packaged together in a deal, Philly will be lucky to walk away with a single first round pick (Simmons 5 firsts - Horfords 4 firsts) and expiring contracts and cap space.

I get that most feel that Philly should get more than this for Simmons+Horford, but the numbers are telling a different story.

Fredman

1.) 14 Aug 2020 04:11:02
It's about the fit. Horford might be worth at least a 3rd of that salary on the right team. I believe in that. Sixers roster is not cohesive.


2.) 14 Aug 2020 05:49:43
I think firsts will have their value go up by at least 50% in the next couple years with the cap in flux.

But this is why teams don’t trade multiple years of a bad contract unless it’s for a different bad contract. Also, if they get say Batum back (~25 million? ), that’s 1.5+ firsts in bad money coming back, taking it down to 2 firsts to unload Horford.

I also think you’re looking at Horford as 100% dead weight. But he’s not. He’s still a top 20 or so center. He’s worth 10-12 million a year.


3.) 14 Aug 2020 15:54:04
Horford may not be "dead weight" but the Drummond trade shows that "mediocre" (top 20) centers have no value based upon their talent primarily because of the devaluation of the position.

I agree that teams do not trade multiple years to dump bad talent. So that requires Philly to do one of two things

A. Trade for an less horrible contract (which is why I threw out the Horford-Wall deal earlier) . I feel that with Horford for Batum and 2 firsts for Philly is an appropriate deal. What I have seen is people trying to use Thybulle and Korkmaz as first round picks which is highly arguable.

B. Attach an star player to the bad contract to cancel out the need to add draft picks. AKA Simmons.

But the problem with B for most is that you essentially get "nothing" for saying goodbye to a star player. Because of this, I think Philly is stuck with Horford for at least 1.5 more years (and all the lack of flexibility and luxury tax payments that comes with him) .

additionally, if charlotte decides to take Horford entirely with cap space as save Batum to trade at the trade deadline for picks, then how many picks do you think Philly should have to give Charlotte to take Horford?


4.) 14 Aug 2020 17:25:01
Yeah, never ever ever in the history of basketball has there been a contract bad enough that it’s worth giving away a 24 year old all star to unload it.

Though, the next 2-3 years are uncharted waters. If Phili were Memphis or NO or another tiny market, it might sound possible. I just don’t see a big market (with incredibly loud fans) doing anything like that.

The smart basketball move is to hold him until the contract isn’t negative (or very negative) . It happened with Evan Turner, and Meyers Leonard, currently happening with Chris Paul.


5.) 14 Aug 2020 19:43:31
Horford is also a better fit in today’s game than Drummond, Horford is a better defender and shooter. He’s packaged with 2/ 3 1st max.


6.) 14 Aug 2020 23:09:24
So you are saying what? Horford for Drummond + lottery protected first?


7.) 15 Aug 2020 05:08:01
Believe it or not, I think to a contender such as NO, who has cap space, Horford doesn’t have negative value in a trade. Horford is a near all star almost every year in terms of value over replacement. He had an off year this year yet his value over replacement was still that of a good starter. If put on a team that needs a center (like the pels), he might actually be worth his contract.

A trade like this would make sense to me:
Horford, 2020 first
For
2020 second, 28 million TPE.

This may seem ridiculous to most, but Horford adds so much winning wherever he goes (other than Phili), that this could actually turn out to be a bargain for the Pelicans. They would also be able to exceed the cap for BI if willing to. Horford’s contract is typically thought of as among the worst in the league but when you look at how much he affects the outcome of winning. Just look at what happened to Atlanta when he left them.


8.) 15 Aug 2020 05:35:27
Note on the trade: in case it’s not clear, Horford is being sent to the Pelicans.


9.) 15 Aug 2020 06:36:25
The only way NO has $28 mil in cap space is if they waive all their cap holds (no matching rights on Ingram? ) and the salary cap does not drop next year. Then there is also the salary caps for their first round pick (s) as well. So Philly is not getting that TPE from NO.

Boston has been winning just as much without Horford as they were with Horford. And he has been a mess in Philly. So his last two stops are not showing me that he "adds so much winning".

And I know that you are not seriously going to use value over replacement for the center position in the NBA as a stat that determines significance. Is that Horford is so great and his replacement was mediocre OR was Horford mediocre while his replacement was horrible? Exact same number for that stat.


 

 

08 Aug 2020 22:18:16
Kings Pre-Lottery Draft Pick projections

#10 Devin Vassell SG/ SF Florida State
#35 Daniel Oturu C Minnesota
#40 Jordan Nwora SF Lousiville
#54 Markus Howard PG Marquette.

Fredman

1.) 09 Aug 2020 08:15:32
Will probably have to adjust prediction because I just read today that the 8 play-in games do NOT impact lottery placement unless a team moves/ wins or drops/ loses the 8th seed. Guess it was an anti-tanking clause. So the Kings will be picking #12 instead of #10 and I don't think Vassell lasts that long. Probably just swap him out with Neismith.


 

 

01 Aug 2020 17:07:57
So with the Kings losing to San Antonio in the first game back, I have decided that the Kings go into tank mode and have moved on to the Lottery/ Draft.

Shizzee, suppose Kings move up to #4 and Knicks drop back to #7. If Ball is still on the board, what package.

Fredman

1.) 01 Aug 2020 18:38:19
M Robinson :-p.


2.) 01 Aug 2020 18:39:56
I think #7+ dallas pick 2023+ 2rnd pick 2021 is fair.

Who would you take with that pick?


3.) 01 Aug 2020 19:36:08
Gasupo. Not even close to what I am looking for.

Try #7+#25+2021 first round draft swap.


4.) 01 Aug 2020 20:25:44
I think the most you could get it 7 and two late firsts (clippers and Dallas maybe? Both Dallas picks? ) . The Knicks would be really stupid to include a top 10 pick swap next year to move up 3 spots.


5.) 01 Aug 2020 22:14:53
I am good with #7+#25+Dallas2021First.


6.) 01 Aug 2020 22:22:11
Who would you draft with 7th pick?


7.) 01 Aug 2020 22:26:54
You know what? On second thought, I am not good with that. Dallas gave up #3 for #5 and next years #10 (had a top 5 protection) . Kings will be giving up an additional slot at a slightly lower point in the draft. Seems pretty similar. So is #5 for #7 and 2021 first (top 5 protected) really that unreasonable? Or would the Knicks prefer to give up the #25 pick in order to have the Kings 2021 first after the swap?


8.) 01 Aug 2020 22:31:43
Gasupo, probably someone in the Okoro/ Vassell/ Neismith group. Not that big on the guy from Isreal.

Could see another trade down from #7 as well. Why do I see San Antonio interested in Okoro (Klaw 2.0?)?


9.) 01 Aug 2020 23:16:09
I would draft vassell or okoro too.

You can't compare the doncic trade with this draft. neither Ball, Edwards or wiseman have doncic value .

I would take the dallas 2023 pick, so you have time to use that asset. The clipper pick has no value in this weak draft. I prefere a future second round over that pick.


10.) 02 Aug 2020 00:01:48
Most of you are acting as if 4 is way more valuable than 7. In this, it’s not. A fair trade would be 7, 25, and a 2021 second. It will likely be a high second. The Knicks get their guy and the kings are probably happier than whoever they get at 7 than Lamelo.


11.) 02 Aug 2020 04:33:07
The draft is thought to have a top 4 or 5 players with a drop off after that. In that case, 4 does have quite a bit more value than 7. And if you’re trading up, you’re admitting to really wanting one of those top 4-5 guys.

I didn’t think about the Dallas Atlanta trade. You’re right Fred, the value is probably a future Knicks pick to make that jump.


12.) 02 Aug 2020 06:04:03
Kings would probably pass on that package, Ethan. #25 is not enough by far.


13.) 02 Aug 2020 06:26:16
Gasupo. Ball, Edwards or Wiseman may not have Doncic value, but anyone at #7 doesn't have Trae Young value either. Most scouts are saying that there are 4 Tier 1 talents in this draft (probably Tier 2 in other drafts) . So there is a "drop" in value after #4. And I seriously doubt Ball last past Detroit at what would be @#6.

Now, personally I want the Clippers first in order to draft Aleksej Pokusevski ahead of Boston trying to stash him. Thus why I am offering the 2021 draft swap instead of just taking New York's 2021 protected pick.


14.) 02 Aug 2020 18:22:45
Did Doncic even have “Doncic value” at the time of that trade? Sure, Dallas loved him, but he went third after Ayton and Bagley. It’s not like he was Anthony Davis as the obvious #1 pick and a clearcut superstar.

I think Ball, Edwards, and Wiseman are very compatible to Doncic. Many think those 3 could become superstars, but there are big question marks. Just like Doncic.


15.) 03 Aug 2020 16:42:57
Doncic was the nr one pick in most mock drafts. He was killing good players in the Spanish league, when he was only 16. So he was already a hype.

The suns drafted Ayton, because he's from Arizona and they had a bad experience drafting Bender.

The Kings didn't draft him because he told everybody he would stay in Europe, if they did. (And sacramento couldn't flip with Atlanta, because they already have Fox)

And Michael Jordan also was drafted 3rd being the best player in the draft.


16.) 03 Aug 2020 18:21:50
Gasupo, Sac could have traded with Dallas (just like Atlanta did), but they were too afraid that Bagley would not drop to #5. This was the move that I wanted Sacramento to try back in 2018. My "dream" was to walk away with Bagley, Mitchell Robinson (in the second round) and Dallas 2019 first (to replace the first rounder Sac was shipping to Boston via Philly) .


17.) 03 Aug 2020 22:24:37
To bad that didn't happen. Bagley or Jackson Jr would have been on the board. And drafting T young wouln't be the worst thing.


 

 

30 Jul 2020 04:47:29
Okay, let's have a talk about Mitchell Robinson. First things first, I have to admit that back in the 2018 Draft I was a little upset that the Knicks drafted him at #36 because I wanted the Kings to draft him at #37 thinking that a Bagley-Robinson addition would have been perfect to go with Fox-Hield-Bogy-Barnes young core. Secondly, I have to admit that I did not watch a bunch of Knicks games this season (watched 1 game against the Kings) .

Someone here wants to make him the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain because of a record-setting FG% (in a shortened season) and a 23+ PER while blocking 2 shots a game. Sounds like he should be a double-double guy, right? well, no, not really.

For starters, Robinson couldn't even beat out Portis or Gibson in the starting lineup (only 7 starts) . Secondly, Robinson's PER is tided to his high FG%. A high shooting percentage only truly matters IF the player shoots the ball a lot.

Unfortunately, Robinson does not primarily because the Knicks offense is not designed for him to get shots. Robinson scores in two different ways. First, is from rim-running off pick-n-rolls.

However, defenses do not let him run free to the hoop because the "poor" shooting by the ball handlers. The second way Robinson scores is from offense rebound put-backs. Robinson averages 3 OReb a game which translate to 2 of his 4 FGs Made are from easy put-backs which is not in the design of the offense.

If Robinson was All-Star material, the offense would be designed to go through him as the Knicks could definitely use a boost in offense production (Knicks 29th in Points Per Game and 26th in Point Differential) . So what is a FAIR comparison for Mitchell Robinson?

Answer: A slightly better Nerlens Noel.

Fredman

1.) 30 Jul 2020 08:45:02
I think he's a usefull roll player for a team with shooters.
That's why i had the idea to sent him to GS (They don't need another star, but good rollplayers) .

It's difficult to value him now. How does his game evolve?
He propably doesn't develop a 3-pointer
Can he stay out of foul trouble?
can he keep his energetic play after signing a new contract?
.

He can still develop in a R Gobert or M Harrell or he can become the next N Noel.


2.) 30 Jul 2020 11:08:23
Chamberlain? No but I can see a Gobert ceiling. Maybe he’ll just be around a Capela level.


3.) 30 Jul 2020 14:43:04
His ceiling seems like Deandre Jordan or Ibaka if he can develop a shot.

I don’t see Gobert. There’s a lot more Whiteside than Gobert there. He’s a great shot blocker, but incredibly undisciplined. He doesn’t feel like a guy that is a defense unto himself like Gobert.

He’s got the potential to maybe be a fringe top 10 center. But I’m not sure he can be more than the 4th best player on a contender.


4.) 30 Jul 2020 17:12:41
BMiller, a more BBIQ'd Whiteside would also be a fair comparision. Basically, we are talking about an below-average "starting" center and an above-average "back-up" center.

Maybe Thibs can bring out more of his defensive value, but it seems to me that his development has to be more in between his ears.


5.) 30 Jul 2020 17:28:19
And the jump from good defender to superstar defender is enormous. I’m not even sure you can teach that kind of BBIQ. Guys are just wired that way. They’re smarter than the rest of the players out there.

I recall an interview with Marcus Camby when he was in Portland, and they asked him about rebounding, and he didn’t have a great answer to how he was so good at getting into position (he might be the most skilled rebounder I’ve ever seen) . It was so natural, he couldn’t explain it.


6.) 30 Jul 2020 17:34:41
Deandre Jordan might be the best development story in the NBA that I can remember. He’s genuinely not good at basketball. He doesn’t have a great natural feel for the game. He took the natural physical tools he had (which were substantial) and took as much teaching as he could. And he actually turned that into an all NBA player.

He shouldn’t have been as good as he was.


7.) 30 Jul 2020 19:29:37
BMiller, agree that players who can fully ACCEPT the Rodman role (defense and rebounding) are they ones who become All-NBA primarily because it is such a rarity. Draymond Green is the modern day example (for me), but can see the Deandre Jordan comparison as well.

However, there are two things needed to be All-NBA successful for these guys IMO. First is a motor. In limited viewings of Robinson, I have not seen the Rodman/ Green motor. Secondly, is playing with talented teammates. Teams depending on scoring from Rodman or Green are simply asking too much from them. In order to score, they sacrifice the "energy" needed to have their "motors". Not seeing the "talent" on the Knicks that will allow Robinson to develop this set, specific role.


8.) 30 Jul 2020 21:03:13
Guys Robinson gets limited minutes because he is in foul trouble often. Noel is his current pace. I don’t see Hubert type because he doesn’t focus like a he cares.


9.) 30 Jul 2020 21:52:15
The answer to whether or not he is good or will be good is very simple. Answer: he will be good maybe all star caliber depending on the situation but hear me out.

Currently, he is getting 23 minutes a game on a well below average team yet he is the leading rebounder and shot blocker at age 21. Instead of giving him pt and time to develop, they are giving players with bad potential playing time.

Offensively, I understand his numbers are sub-par but it is easy to see why. The Knicks have a .321 3pt percentage as a team while the league average is .357. Their true shooting percentage is .524 while the league average is .564. It is easy to see that the Knicks are a bad team but did you realize they were this bad? For opposing teams, this makes defending them extremely easy. They defend the paint much harder than they defend the perimeter making it undeniably difficult for robinson to score down low.
My consensus: if the knicks can add shooters and if someone like rj steps up to be a true scoring threat, the Robinson will have a much easier time scoring as long as he is given the minutes he deserves. Obviously, this might not happen but if it does, I see a very bright future for the young Robinson.


10.) 30 Jul 2020 22:22:05
Ethan. The problem is that other GMs do not know if their team's "situation" is right for Robinson either. If a team trades for him, the new team is taking all the risk. Last time I checked "overpaying" and accepting all the "risk" is not a winning strategy. Thus, Robinson's trade value is not that high (late 1st IMO) .


 

 

 

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27 Oct 2020 12:04:47
Small market teams are not the ones significantly over the luxury cap. So this actually benefits the large market teams more.

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26 Oct 2020 23:42:39
So, BMiller, you do understand that putting a hold on the luxury tax does the exact opposite for why the luxury tax rules were imposed? AKA evening the $$$$$ playing field between big and small market teams.

Also, I wouldn't count on the cap rising next season either. At least not until teams can fill arenas for 82 games + playoffs.

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29 Aug 2020 17:31:00
For my last post, your welcome and good luck.

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27 Aug 2020 19:37:03
@Bmiller. Easier to say than to prove. Except to look at CJ's perforances without Lillard. Whole lotta Ls there.

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27 Aug 2020 17:17:00
Dallas has the nearly $8 mil in cap space for the salary difference in the first trade? Not if the salary cap drops next year.

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