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06 Feb 2020 19:10:57
Surprised that the Mavs didn't jump in on Drummond when it appeared that expiring deals and a second rounder was enough for Detroit.

Lee+Powell+GSW 2nd.


1.) 06 Feb 2020 20:14:22
Just got WCS.

2.) 06 Feb 2020 20:20:47
Powell not expiring.

3.) 06 Feb 2020 20:29:01
ddrainer is having nervouse breakdown. Zll yr propose expiring and 2nd and we all mocked him. Now the Cavs are all over over it.

4.) 06 Feb 2020 22:16:06
Curious to see how the opt in/ out, FA period goes for Drummond.

5.) 07 Feb 2020 11:05:15
The most poster? s here are neigther real hoopers nor NBA hardened. Anyway Drummond is a chance and a risk, since he has a player option of 29m next year. I learned Mavs have two reasons not to try out on him.
- Beal may be available for a fair offer in the summer and would perfectly fit @Mavs.
- You can see what a real Center like WCS immediatelly can provide on the defense side but you also the offense side becomes stack or that funny flow goes a bit lost. So I think beside Beal Mavs will have a look on Turner next years and what you can learn from Mavs as well ist patience.
Mavs will have 4 young player after this years draft and 2 1st availalbe to improve and if we seen till a year is gone Beal and / or Turner @DAL it will pretty nice. So we may figure out some nice probosals on that.

Finalley I would have like the try on MKG if the Hornets would have agreed to send him for Lee - but not for a pick.

6.) 07 Feb 2020 16:04:23
I guess what I am trying to say is that Dallas coukd have gotten Drummond instead of WCS with that same 2nd round draft pick.



06 Feb 2020 13:02:01
Whiteside buyout and signing with Houston?


1.) 06 Feb 2020 13:26:08
I can see Portland doing this to get under the tax line, but that would mean Whiteside giving back 6 M of the 10M he's owed through the rest of the season. He won't recover that signing with Houston. so. how badly does Whiteside want to play and compete in the playoffs?
On the other hand, if Portland doesn't make the playoffs they may pay more and take some savings.

2.) 06 Feb 2020 14:09:22
Buyouts don't directly impact salary caps. The resigned salary is removed from old teams salary cap. That's about it. Buyouts only save actual cash and create roster spots.

3.) 06 Feb 2020 15:17:57
Fredman. I thought that if Whiteside settles for a buyout that is lower than the salary owed, then the savings on what's owed would come off the cap. ie only what's been paid so far this season plus the buyout would count against the cap, but any money Whiteside gave back wouldn't.

4.) 06 Feb 2020 16:44:00
Windrap. Na, it doesn't quite work like that. For example, if Whiteside takes a buyout for $30K less and then resigns this season with Houston for $1 mil. The $1 mil comes off Portland's salary cap (and any luxury tax calculations) while Portland saves $30k in actual salary payments. So its a win-win. Player makes an additional $970K this season while the team benefits with less actual payments and getting below the luxury tax line (or lowering the amount in luxury tax that they pay) .

Which was such a surprise that Iggy didn't get bought out this season.



05 Feb 2020 11:05:09
Report out there that GSW has already rejected a DLo for Wiggons + 2020 Minny first+2020 Brooklyn first offer.


1.) 05 Feb 2020 11:39:12
Fredman- I hope ninny trades Kat to sac carmento for heild bagkey 2020 first, 2022 first and 2021 pick swap.

2.) 05 Feb 2020 12:29:31
No gsw rejected wiggins+Brooklyn pick+Houston pick+Minnesota pick. Because Minnesota wants to put protection on the pick. Gsw wanted Brooklyn pick and 2 Minnesota pick unprotected and wiggins.

3.) 05 Feb 2020 14:10:41
Shiller, I am sure that deal will not happen.



04 Feb 2020 02:57:16
Sac trades Bogdanovich, Dedmond + 2020 lottery protected first (2 seconds if not conveyed)

Houston trades Capella + Nene

Kings waive Nene before 2020 guarenteed contract kicks in.

Kind of feel this is an overpay, but its what Houston is looking for.


1.) 04 Feb 2020 12:41:09
I would agree that it's an overpay if the 1st were to convey, but that's pretty doubtful. Rumor has it that Houston wants the picks to get Covington, so Bogdanovich really doesn't move the needle.



02 Feb 2020 20:59:57
Saw this one on Fanside and thought it worked.

Kings trade Bodganovich and Holmes

Clippers trade Shamet, Robinson, Zubac and 2020 first rounder.


1.) 03 Feb 2020 07:12:08
Clippers might say no. Shamet can be as good as Bogdan.

2.) 03 Feb 2020 12:49:44
Knickjoker, shooting, yea. Playmaking, no.




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16 Feb 2020 01:56:40
Do I have to say it again?

One of the (if not the ) best shooters in NBA history.


1.) 16 Feb 2020 22:33:52
Not even close to the best shooter of all time.

2.) 17 Feb 2020 02:39:01
He need to keep up for the next 5 years then we see.



09 Feb 2020 12:34:28
Last night Buddy Heild past 800 career 3pters made faster than any player in NBA history. Buddy did it in 296 games. Curry did it in 305 games. Throw some respect on his name.


1.) 09 Feb 2020 19:23:32
That’s great all those threes lead him to career losing record.

2.) 09 Feb 2020 21:42:38
Record is a reflection on the team, not so much the individual. See Lebron and last years Lakers.

It puts him in the conversation as one the best shooters in league history. Most don't want to put him there.



19 Jan 2020 01:07:09
BMiller, just saved Portland $18 mil for 2 future seconds. You are welcome!


1.) 19 Jan 2020 21:43:05
The non-guaranteed contract of Ariza is nice too. Seems like a decent move for both.

2.) 20 Jan 2020 02:12:28
Yea, you will still be able to mive Ariza before his guarentee date to someone looking to dump salary or use as an expiring.



20 Dec 2019 21:55:27
Just had a thought. Likelihood of Golden State trading away the #1 pick in upcoming draft?

Wiseman seems like an obvious pick. But I am concerned about him only showing 3 games of college ball and probably not working out at the combine. Gets enough touches in GS to truly develop?

Would let's say ATL be willing to give up their treasure trove to get Wiseman?


1.) 21 Dec 2019 02:35:01
What treasure trove?

2.) 21 Dec 2019 08:53:17
Atlanta has the same record with gsw. They have the same chance to get wiseman.

3.) 21 Dec 2019 12:00:02
atlanta's OKC's and Brooklyn's 2020 picks.



16 Dec 2019 19:36:24
All Star voting

LIllard with no Nurkic and Hood team not in the playoffs


Hield with no Fox and Bagley team in the playoffs?


1.) 16 Dec 2019 20:17:12
Lillard is in, I don't see any way he's not. They're not the two fighting for the last spot or two.

But if I had to pick one, it's Lillard, it's not close. Yes I'm biased, but I don't think this decision is based on bias.

2.) 16 Dec 2019 21:36:30
Ok, if Lillard is "in" than Hield before McCollum?

3.) 16 Dec 2019 22:31:27
Oh, absolutely Hield over McCollum.

Harden, Doncic, Lebron, AD, Kawhi, Lillard, George, Towns should all be in.

That leaves 4 spots. Utah and Denver should get one each. So two spots for Hield, Westbrook, Booker, and maybe a second from Utah? So it feels like whoever is ahead in the standings between Hield and Booker should get the last spot?

4.) 16 Dec 2019 23:28:49
Feel Hield is ahead of Booker by winning games wihout Fox and Bagley while Booker is winning only without Ayton.

Jokic from Denver and Mitchell from Utah.

SGA or Gallinari from OKC?

5.) 17 Dec 2019 15:28:05
I'd be shocked if Gallo made it. Maybe SGA, but there just seems like too many guys ahead of him that are higher profile.

Yeah, like I said, Hield vs Booker totally depends on if either are in the playoffs come February. Missing teammates is a factor, but not as much as winning.




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17 Feb 2020 13:23:25
Golden state hard passes as well. I actully think they wpuld prefer Wiggins over Simmons. REALLY can't see Simmons accepting the 3rd wheel role.




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16 Feb 2020 16:27:38
Dario has to want to sign . for Detroit. can't see it.




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16 Feb 2020 12:39:13
Salaries don't work with Cameron Johnson.




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16 Feb 2020 08:43:40
Johnson waived by thd Suns? couldn't be traded anyways.




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15 Feb 2020 04:18:08
I think he meant LAST summer (offseason) he suggested this.

And I don't think the Clippers get Leonard by getting Butler.





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