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13 Jan 2025 14:03:16
The Raptors as a facilitator in a Butler trade
Miami trades: Jimmy Butler, Pelle Larson
Miami receives: Bruce Brown, Kelly Olynyk, Jalen Hood-Schifino, DET 2029 1st, LAL 2030 2nd
Toronto trades: Bruce Brown, Kelly Olynyk, Davion Mitchell
Toronto receives: Tobias Harris, Tim Hardaway Jr., Simone Fontecchio, TOR 2025 2nd via DET, DET 2031 1st (top 10 prot)
Detroit trades: Tobias Harris, Tim Hardaway Jr., Simone Fontecchio, TOR 2025 2nd, 2029 1st, 2031 1st (top 10 prot)
Detroit receives: Jimmy Butler, Christian Wood, Pelle Larson
Lakers trade: Jalen Hood-Schifino, Christian Wood, LAC 2025 2nd, 2030 2nd
Lakers receive: Davion Mitchell
Why the Heat do this: Trade Butler and save 10 million while gaining good assets. JHS can be a prospect and Brown could easily net additional value.
Adebayo/Ware/Love
Jovic/Olynyk/Johnson
Brown/Highsmith/JHS
Robinson/Jaquez/Richardson
Herro/Rozier/Burks
Why the Raptors do this: They're rebuilding so sell their older players and take on some contracts for assets.
Poeltl/Boucher
Barnes/Harris/Mogbo
Barrett/Agbaji/Fontecchio
Dick/Hardaway/Walter
Quickley/Shead/Temple
Why the Pistons do this: Get a star in Butler to pair with Cade, while not giving too much for a player of his calibre.
Duren/Stewart/Reed
Thompson/Wood/Klintman
Butler/Holland/Moore
Ivey/Beasley/Larson
Cunningham/Sasser
Why the Lakers do this: Get a real, defensively solid PG while not giving up a first, bolstering their rotation.
Davis/Hayes/Koloko
Finney-Smith/Vanderbilt
James/Knecht/Reddish
Reaves/Christie/James
Mitchell/Vincent/Milton
Thoughts?
1.) 13 Jan 2025 21:33:58
I don't hate it but Will Butler go to Detroit?
2.) 13 Jan 2025 22:48:30
Toronto getting way too much this is lopsided asf.
3.) 14 Jan 2025 00:25:30
I didn't notice both 1sts. Take out the 1st going to Toronto.
4.) 15 Jan 2025 12:32:00
Good for Lakers, good value for TOR, bad for DET given the fit. A team that got better by surrounding Cade with more shooters around him to trade 3 of them for a suspect one in Butler (40% in small volume this year but historically not good) seems wrong.
5.) 30 Jan 2025 16:41:49
Not great but ok.
08 Jan 2025 17:42:26
Here are some trades generated from the BasketballGM CPU for three Raptors players.
Bruce Brown:
ATL offers Bogdan Bogdanovic and Mo Gueye
DET offers Tim Hardaway Jr., Simone Fontecchio, and Wendell Moore Jr.
MIA offers Terry Rozier
Kelly Olynyk:
CHA offers Nick Richards and Vasilijie Micic
UTA offers Patty Mills, Drew Eubanks, and Isaiah Collier
WAS offers Richaun Holmes
Chris Boucher:
MEM offers Brandon Clarke
MIL offers Pat Connaughton and Tyler Smith (is this legal?)
Which one of these is the most realistic?
1.) 10 Jan 2025 20:52:11
Not sure if realistic, perhaps favors Toronto, but Olynyk for Richards and Micic is a pretty nice trade for the Raptors.
29 Aug 2024 04:40:28
Raptors trade Bruce Brown
Thunder trade Isaiah Joe, Kenrich Williams, and the PHI 2025 1st
Raptors get a late 1st for Brown.
Poeltl/Olynyk/Boucher
Barnes/Williams/Mogbo
Barrett/Joe/Agbaji
Dick/Walter/Temple
Quickley/Mitchell/Shead
Thunder get a key rotation player for basically scraps.
Hartenstein/Jay. Williams
Holmgren/Jal. Williams/Dieng
Brown/Wallace
Dort/Caruso/Wiggins
SGA/Topic
1.) 29 Aug 2024 10:41:29
I'm not so sure OKC gives up Joe, locked in long term, by himself. And J Dub is a star he's not going to the bench lmao.
2.) 29 Aug 2024 16:02:04
Isaiah Joe is not a throw in. He's legit.
3.) 29 Aug 2024 16:29:19
Williams getting benched for Bruce Brown is just a wild thought.
30 May 2024 03:35:48
Raptors Offseason:
S&T Trent 4Y 65M to LAL for Vanderbilt, JHS, and a 2nd
Re-Sign Quickley 4Y 128M
Trade Brown and McDaniels to GSW for Wiggins and Moody
Sign Monte Morris w/ MLE
Draft Tristan Da Silva @19 and Ajay Mitchell @31
C ' Poeltl/Olynyk/Boucher
PF ' Barnes/Da Silva/Vanderbilt
SF ' Wiggins/Moody/Agbaji
SG ' Barrett/Dick/Hood-Schifino
PG ' Quickley/Morris/Mitchell
1.) 30 May 2024 05:12:17
Wiggins fits good on raps more valuable than people realize warriors had a lot of issues could see Wiggins playing like he did two years ago somewhere else. But golden state shouldn't do this . Monte Morris shouldn't be in the league . why trade for Vanderbilt jhs won't be good .
2.) 30 May 2024 13:21:13
Wiggins is a local player, Toronto Raptors likely have as much insight on him as any team in the league. It's great that he got a ring, but he underperformed most years of his career. He seems rather disinterested last season. Raptors need shooters around SB. Wiggins has 3 years left on his contract with a diminishing return. Raptors just got ride of older players - this trade does not make sense from Raptors perspective.
06 Jan 2024 03:22:16
Looks like the Kings didnt want to give Keegan for Pascal but the Raptors didn't want a deal without Keegan. Oh well.
What is a realistic GSW offer for SIakam do you guys think? A deal centered around Paul or Wiggins? A combo of podz/Kuminga/Moody/TJD and picks?
1.) 06 Jan 2024 21:54:19
That’s one that will be most interesting to watch. No doubt GSW would be motivated. They hafta be talkin. Raps could definitely give Moody minutes to develop more properly. Don’t believe the “Red Rocket” would be on the table but maybe? What ta do with Paul’s injury, take contract (and picks) and waive? Or do you use Wiggins as the salary? He’s got to have a bit left in the tank right? They just seem to be so over loaded with drama and other distractions. Trades are rarely as immediately mutually beneficial as the last one Masai and Bobby pulled off. The picks would definitely be a larger part of this deal than OG’s. No idea how motivated the Raptors are with this one. But it’s surely a neat one to ponder though.
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13 Jan 2025 14:05:47
Tell me about the situation of your team. Are you doing better than expected? Worse? Who's some players that have stepped up beyond their expectations, and who has been disappointing?
1.) 14 Jan 2025 21:49:54
Lakers been so inconsistent this season and it's very frustrating. They can beat the best teams at times but then struggling to beat mediocre teams
The positives:
I like the leap of Austin Reaves & Max Christie thus far, hope they can be more consistent
AD has been relatively healthy and that's a good sign
Nice to have a rookie who can play with confidence (Knecht)
The negatives:
I really hate the fact that they dont realize they cant win with AD playing the 5, they just cant. They dont have any reliable big on that roster (Hayes, Koloko are end of the bench guys) .
Note: I dont know what to expect from Lebron, he is still amazing at 40 but sometimes, the decline is evident, he doesnt seem so committed at times id you watch the game closely, though you cant blame him for just enjoying the game in this twilight of his career.
Key notes:
- Improvement in damn 3 point shooting, ironic that they have a coach who loves shooting but they cant hit their shots
- turnover, lousy passes, unforced errors. Those simple things are killing them especially in crucial stages of the game
- need to find a center badly, remove Hachimura from that starting 5 and have a decent center to pair with AD.
2.) 17 Jan 2025 09:15:08
My Pacers are doing fine
We had a little slump while Hali was struggling, but he's doing fine now. Nembhard really stepped up. Mathurin show flashes of greatness, but he's still better as a sixth man and Wallace is a great defender
We can use a rebounder and a scorer.
3.) 19 Jan 2025 11:53:25
The Celtics are not a very exciting team to watch. Even last year when they won, I didn't feel anything. Right now they look like they've never played together. I'd love for them to trade a couple of guys for some younger players.
4.) 21 Jan 2025 23:55:41
Not a fan of Suns but i would like to talk about their season so far.
They were promising with that 8-1 start but KD went down and they started playing like a**
Now they want to trade for Butler and they are aggresive with that Utah deal. Looks like Beal is going out along with that picks to get Butler. Imo, this is a championship or bust move, personally i think it's terrible. They will be screwed for years if this dont work out for the next 3 years.
23 May 2024 03:59:01
What are your draft comps for the top prospects?
Alex Sarr
Zach Risacher
Nikola Topic
Rob Dillingham
Stephon Castle
Donovan Clingan
Ron Holland
Reed Sheppard
Cody Williams
Dalton Knecht
10 Sep 2023 13:25:10
Nice win from Canada. Barrett, SGA, Brooks all played phenomenally.
01 Jul 2023 17:42:01
Thoughts on Raptors signing Schroder/Rockets signing VanVleet?
1.) 01 Jul 2023 21:28:23
I was actually more stunned at the money Schroder got.
2.) 01 Jul 2023 21:34:35
A borderline All-star talent leaves Toronto with no compensation. SMH.
3.) 02 Jul 2023 12:50:43
yeah we weren't gonna give him 40 mil.
4.) 02 Jul 2023 21:35:44
Is Siakam next to leave Toronto without them receiving compensation? OG?
5.) 02 Jul 2023 22:00:21
If Toronto was never going to pay FVV max, why did they not trade him at the deadline?
6.) 04 Jul 2023 14:43:14
maybe we wanted to clear his cap hold? idk if that even makes sense lol. maybe the deals were quite literally negative value. I dont even remember what was on the table then.
Siakam should stay imo, i thought he said that he wanted to. OG might be traded. The only way we really can contend is with that Barnes for Lillard trade.
20 Jun 2023 20:25:56
BMiller, with all the talks about the Raptors and Blazers, do you personally see a trade happening? Who'd be in it and what value do you think our players have versus yours?
1.) 21 Jun 2023 01:12:12
Probably not. Everything I’ve read has said Toronto is difficult to deal with and values their guys really high. And Portland values 3 far more than a single star.
Simons, Little, and 3 for Siakam seems like the middle ground. Toronto fans want more, Blazer fans want some value back (usually 13 or Precious) . Maybe add in 23 from Portland and Precious from Toronto?
I really don’t care for anyone else on Toronto. OG is good, but Portland would have to land a star before they got him. He’d be an awesome secondary acquisition. But Toronto’s valuation of him is exponentially higher than I value him. Maybe Simons and 23 for him at absolute most.
2.) 21 Jun 2023 03:35:10
Just read a report that Portland is pursuing Bam Adebayo from Miami. According to the said Report, the Blazers dont covet either Siakam or OG with their pick and said that they arent worth it. Bam and PG are the targets that they deem worthy with the pick. Also unclear how the Blazers value Ziont too.
3.) 21 Jun 2023 21:02:39
Reports are that Siakam refused to give a guarentee that he would resign with Portland. Probably what is creating the perceived difference in value between Toronto and other teams.
05 Feb 2025 16:07:19
DAC, what would you think a good Raptors offer would look like?
03 Feb 2025 16:40:20
You'd rather give up Turner?
13 Jun 2024 16:20:58
Why not run it back with Dame one more year?
13 Jun 2024 16:14:11
This is one of these trades where I think it might actually work.
13 Jun 2024 16:13:30
I feel like there's a somewhat decent chance Risacher drops to 4, is there that much of a gap between 2 and 4 to warrant also giving up 8, which could be someone like Reed SHeppard / Castle?
06 Feb 2025 16:31:20
I think the opinions on the Luka trade is clear.
I love the idea of a Fox-Wemby pairing.
Lots of people have said they don't like the deal for GSW but I think you'd rather have Butler and Curry and just figure it out from there.
I love Ingram in Toronto
Not too sure about the Thunder but Theis is pretty good.
I'm kinda surprised the Lakers gave up Knecht early, he was one of their best young prospects. Getting a center, though, is pretty big.
It's kinda sad to see Middleton not commanding any value. Kuz I guess is an upgrade?
27 Aug 2024 04:15:05
That's a solid rotation. I think they're in strong contention for at least top 3.
25 Mar 2024 15:56:23
I'd like to hope that he becomes a superstar, but he doesn't seem like he has what it takes to become a true no.1, top 12 player. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
Besides, DeRozan was our best player throughout a time period where we consistently made playoffs as a top-5 team. He was traded for Kawhi, that led to a ring. Siakam was the number 2 on that championship team, and led us for four more years putting up really impressive numbers. Those aren't bad comparisons for Scottie, if he can get there, I think most of us will be happy.
16 Jan 2024 16:53:26
Worst contract has got to be Wiggins.
15 Jan 2024 18:33:56
That's why they should trade for Siakam. Could a deal be done where Siakam AND POeltl go to the Mavs while a package centered around THJ/ Lively comes back?