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21 Aug 2019 22:52:57
Celtics or NYK fans could hate me for this but i try

BOS get Julius Randle, Dennis Smith Jr & Damyean Dotson

NYK get Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart & Daniel Theis

Picks could be thrown here too

Is this a terrible trade? Yes i do think this is a lateral movement for both but upgrades on the position of need is the primary goal.

BOS

Walker/Smith Jr/Edwards
Hayward/Langford
Tatum/Dotson
Randle/Ojeleye
Kanter/Williams/Poirier/Fall

NYK

Pg Payton/Smart/Ntilikina
Sg Brown/Bullock/Trier
Sf Barrett/Ellington
Pf Knox/Morris/Theis
Ce Robinson/Portis/Gibson

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22 Aug 2019 00:18:16
Is Randle/ Kanter the worst defensive 4/ 5 combo in nba history?

22 Aug 2019 03:51:53
Maybe Kanter to the bench and Williams should start?

21 Aug 2019 20:33:49
December 15.

Timberwolves - Thunder

Timberwolves gets:
Paul
Gallinari (expiring)
Muscala (expiring)

Thunder gets:
Wiggins
Teague (expiring)
Dieng
2020 1st rd pick (Top 17 protected)


Timberwolves try to make the playoffs and add veterans to a young team.

Thunder take on longer contracts for players that fit their timeline better.

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23 Aug 2019 01:23:05
Absolutely no from Minnesota. CP3s larger per year contract negates any use of cap space for the 2020 and 2021 off seasons.

23 Aug 2019 03:21:51
Swap Muscala for Noel & the draft pick for a 2022 1st Rnd

21 Aug 2019 19:56:18
Magic - Beal
Spurs - Bryant
Wizards - Fournier Bamba Isaac Johnson Belineli 1/2 Magic 1st and Spurs 2nd

Fultz/Augustin
Beal/Ross
Aminu/Frazier/Iwundu
Gordon/Okeke
Vucevic/Birch

Murray/Forbes
White/White
Derozan/Carroll
Aldridge/Gay
Bryant/Poeltl

Thomas/Smith/Wall
Fournier/Johnson
Hachimura/Brown Jr
Isaac/Bertans
Bamba/Wagner

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21 Aug 2019 18:54:08
WAS-OKC-ATL-DAL

ATL gets Beal,

WAS gets Reddish, Crabbe, Adams, Schroeder

OKC gets Wall and WAS 1st rounder ‘20, THJ, Lee

DAL gets Paul and Ferguson


CP3/ Barea
Justin Jackson/ Wright
Luka/ Ferguson/ DFS
Powell/ Kleber
KP/ Boban


Shai/ (Wall) / Felton
THJ/ Bazley
Roberson/ Lee
Gallo/ Muscala
Noel/


Young/ Turner
Huerter/ Carter
Beal/ Hunter
Collins/ Parker/ Bembry
Len/ Fernando

Thomas/ Schroeder
Crabbe/ CJ Miles/ Brown
Rui/ Reddish
Bryant/ Bertans/ Schofield
Adams/ Wagner.

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21 Aug 2019 19:34:34
So beal+Wall+lottery pick for Reddish+expiring deal+overpriced pieces from OKC. Think Washington passes.

21 Aug 2019 21:51:45
Washington is to understand that they will be getting something worthwhile for Wall then? Fredman.

21 Aug 2019 21:55:19
I think OKC says no too.

22 Aug 2019 00:21:04
I think Washington is more likely to take a "wait and see" attitude with Wall instead of using assets to be rid of him. Kind of the same approach OKC is having with Paul.

22 Aug 2019 17:32:35
I’m beginning to warm up to the idea of taking Wall’s horrid contract, but only if every other team sends an unprotected 1st Rnd pick in either 2022 or 2023 to Okc in addition to what has been proposed.

Otherwise “OKC DOES NOT WANT JOHN WALL”.

22 Aug 2019 23:37:56
You want 3 unprotected firsts for swap Paul’s horrible deal for Wall’s? That’s pretty asinine.

23 Aug 2019 08:12:18
Bmiller, read the last line of the post.

That’s the point, maybe if the ask is sooo asinine, people will stop thinking Okc would want the horrific option of taking Wall & the absolute worst contract by 47 mil in the entire NBA

21 Aug 2019 14:40:45
OKC MIN after Dec 15

OKC get Wiggins, Dieng, Teague
MIN get Paul, Schroder, Roberson, 2020 CHI and 2021 OKC 2nd round picks, or Den 2020 1st instead of 2 2nds

Paul's contract is a lil worse than Wiggins but a year shorter. Paul is older than Wiggins but would fit with Towns better. This part is close but OKC is prob getting the better of this part.

Diengs contract is worse than Schroders. They have the same amount of years but Dieng is making a lil more and is a worse player. Schroder can come off the bench behind Paul be a good 6th man for them. I say Min gets the better of this part.

Teague and Roberson both expire after this season but Teague is the better player right now he is healthier. Teague does make more than Roberson and is over paid but OKC win this part of the trade.
I compaired them by contracts. Worse contract, 2 year contracts, and expiring contracts.
OKC won 2 of the 3 parts of the trade and this shold get them under the luxury tax so Min gets the picks to even it up.
What do yall think? Fair for both teams?

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22 Aug 2019 00:23:08
Why wait until Dec 15th? 60 day wait on traded players, right? No one here was a FA signing.

22 Aug 2019 11:28:34
Yea my bad Fredman you're right. It can take place after September 14.

21 Aug 2019 12:30:36
Heat - Lakers - Thunder

Heat gets:
Paul
Muscala (expiring)

Lakers gets:
Dragic (expiring)
Noel (expiring)

Thunder gets:
Green
Johnson
Leonard (expiring)
Cook

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21 Aug 2019 13:19:30
The Heat have basically came out and said that they aren’t trading Paul for free. It just doesn’t make sense with how he played last year and the years left.

21 Aug 2019 13:56:13
The Heat get under the luxury tax and save money this season.

21 Aug 2019 14:03:54
For this season, sure, they're out of luxury tax. But their cap is throttled for the next 4 by taking on Paul. If you're going to screw your cap, you need to get assets out of it.

22 Aug 2019 06:54:57
Thunder will keep Paul and let him expire before giving up a first pick to trade him. Don't think they stretch him either. Gallo expires next year so there not in the tax or need cap over next two offseasons. Like I see thunder doing something like Teague and dieng for Paul and a second round pick. Or for lee and hard away for Paul and a second.

21 Aug 2019 11:05:17
The Heat get Gallo, Paul, Horton-Tucker, and two Lakers 2nds

The Thunder get Johnson, Waiters, Leonard(exp), Caldwell-Pope(expiring), Cousins(waive), Caruso, a Lakers 2nd and save 8 million dollars.

The Lakers get Dragic and Noel.

The Heat improve their team and probably end up a piece away from being a contender to come out of the East. Plus, they get some assets for taking on Paul.

I think the Paul stuff is going to go south. They're not going to be that good and Paul wants to be on a contender. They get off Paul, save money, get some smaller assets and open up more cap for this offseason.

The Lakers get the guard that they need who can keep the offense running when Lebron is out and get a center that can give them decent minutes.

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21 Aug 2019 13:23:04
KCP can veto. And probably would.

Also we are talking about Lakers 2nds 2023-2025. Seems like a while for compensation.

21 Aug 2019 08:58:12
The Suns get D'Angelo Russell & Aaron Gordon

D'Angelo Russell/Johnson/Okobo
Devin Booker/Melton
Mikal Bridges/Johnson
Aaron Gordon/Kaminsky
DeAndre Ayton/Baynes

The Magic get Ricky Rubio & Ty Jerome

Ricky Rubio/C.Williams/Fultz
Evan Fournier/Jerome/Iwundu
Jonathan Isaac/Ross
Al-Farouq Aminu/Okeke
Nikola Vucevic/Bamba/Birch

The Warriors get Kelly Oubre, Dario Saric & DJ Augustin

Stephen Curry/Augustin/Poole
Klay Thompson/Burks/Robinson
Kelly Oubre/Saric/McKinnie
Draymond Green/Paschall/Smailagic
Kevon Looney/Cauley-Stein

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21 Aug 2019 11:05:54
The suns are giving up way to little in both trades imo.

21 Aug 2019 13:26:15
Magic give up Gordon and Augustin for Rubio and Jerome? Uhhhhh, no.

21 Aug 2019 13:29:52
By the way, Melton is no longer with PHX and Johnson is not a PG. Plus, you're giving away 3 Suns starters for 2 guys whose value to any team could go either way. good or otherwise.

21 Aug 2019 13:31:52
CAM Johnson is no PG. My bad if you meant Tyler J.

21 Aug 2019 08:55:27
ORL/WAS

ORL get Bradley Beal

WAS get Jonathan Isaac, Evan Fournier, Wes Iwundu & 2 1st round picks (one lottery protected)

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21 Aug 2019 13:28:15
Washington passes. Beal makes Orlando a lock for the playoffs do those draft picks are not that valuable.

21 Aug 2019 17:06:10
Add Bamba as well.

21 Aug 2019 08:15:01
The Pelicans get Myles Turner

The Pacers get Brandon Ingram, Etwann Moore, Jaxson Hayes & 1st round pick

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21 Aug 2019 17:08:13
I’d do it if I was the Pacers. Ingram could start to become a star on Indiana while Dipo recovers and would provide a great 1-2-3 punch alongside Brogdon. Lineup could create problems

Brogdon
Oladipo
Ingram
Warren
Sabonis.

21 Aug 2019 19:39:26
Myles Turner worth 3 lottery pick talents?

 


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