NBA rumours 4

16 Jul 2019 23:43:57
Cavs - Bamba Isaac Fournier Hayward and 2020 1st via Bos

- Gets rid of guard logjam and adds much needed frontcourt youth plus extra 1st

Magic - Sexton Clarkson and Henson

- Adds future PG and another combo scoring guard on expiring contract. Fultz can play next to Sexton better due to his height.

Celtics - Love

- Adds another all star player and much needed big

Garland/Delly/Knight
Fournier/Porter Jr
Hayward/Osman/Windler
Isaac/Nance
Thompson/Bamba/Zizic

Sexton/Fultz/Augustin
Ross/Clarkson
Aminu/Iwundu/Frazier
Gordon/Birch/Okeke
Vucevic/Henson

Walker/Edwards
Brown/Smart
Tatum/Langford
Love/G.Williams/Theis
R.Williams/Kanter

17 Jul 2019 13:35:49
Magic say no.

16 Jul 2019 23:26:10
A trade between orlando and chicago

Orlando gets 2 first, 2 second rounders, 2 swap, wendell, dunn, valantine, chandler and felicio

Chicago gets gordon and fultz

Bulls depth.

17 Jul 2019 01:56:06
Overvaluing Gordon and Fultz much?

17 Jul 2019 02:34:56
Way too much from Bulls.

17 Jul 2019 15:11:55
Think about bulls depth

L. Markanen, A. Gordon, O. Porter jr, Z. Lavine, C. White

D. Gafford, L. Kornet, T. Young, T. Satoransky, M. Fultz

Its a contender in 2 or 3 years for the east so its not way too much or overvaluing in my opinion.

17 Jul 2019 15:12:03
Think about bulls depth

L. Markanen-A. Gordon-O. Porter jr. -Z. Lavine-C. White

D. Gafford-L. Kornet-T. Young-T. Satoransky-M. Fultz

Its a contender in 2 or 3 years in the east so its neither too much nor overvaluing.

17 Jul 2019 16:35:58
So no rim protection.

16 Jul 2019 21:24:44
ATL, ORLANDO, OKC

ATL gets: adams, Augustin, frazier

ORL gets: CP3, len, bembry and Ferguson

Okc gets: fultz, parsons, Fournier, bamba

ATL gets out of parsons contract and gets a starting center and a backup pg

ORL gets a team that makes the playoffs and maybe can do some damage

Okc will probably need too give up some draft picks but get some young talent in return and gets out of CP3.

16 Jul 2019 23:28:03
Again, Atlanta has no interest in Adams and his contract. They are gping to roll with Len and then focus on the 2020 draft for a big.

17 Jul 2019 03:09:03
Sorry, didn't know you were in the Hawks front office. But your right, I'm sure they wouldn't take a 25 year old vet and a good vet backup pg to help trey out for chandler parsons. Because parsons is a big part of their system.

17 Jul 2019 12:06:08
Dont have to be in their front office to know that a rebuilding team is going to want to keep an expiring $25 mil deal over a 2 year $52 mil year deal. Especially if the rebuilding team has an additional $40 mil in expiring deals.

Now the story probably changes if ATL were to receive some draft picks, but I doubt OKC wants to give any up at this point.

16 Jul 2019 19:45:12
OKC/ ORL

OKC gets Gordon, Fultz, and Bamba
ORL gets Paul and two firsts

ORL gets a PG that matches the ages of some of the guys they just invested in and OKC gets younger.

16 Jul 2019 22:06:04
Absolutely not from the Magic.

17 Jul 2019 22:10:25
I realize it doesn't seem realistic, but with ORL drafting Okeke that puts them at 3 starting caliber PFs in Gordon, Isaac, and Okeke. They are probably going to get rid of one and most likely Gordon because he will be the most expensive. They just committed huge, long-term contracts to Vucevic, T Ross, and A Aminu. That signals to me they want to win now which would be what this move is. They'd also get two firsts in the process. Seems like a win-win IF, and it's a big IF, ORL is truly trying to go all-in.

16 Jul 2019 19:22:20
CLE-MIN-MIA

MIA gets Love, T. Graham
Sign Lance

MIN gets Clarkson, Olynyk, Henson and CLE 2nd rd 2020

CLE gets Wiggins, Winslow, Waiters, MIA 2023 1st rd pick.



Dragic/ Stephenson
Herro/ Graham
Butler/ DJJ
Love/ JJ
Bam/ Leonard

Sexton/ Garland
Wiggins/ KPJ
Winslow/ Waiters
Nance/ Chriss/ Cedi O
Thompson/ Zizic



Teague
Okogie/ J-Clark
Covington/ Culver
Henson/ Olynyk
Towns/ Dieng.

16 Jul 2019 23:30:17
Miami doesn't own its 2023 first rounder. Okc owns the pick.

16 Jul 2019 17:44:52
OKC DAL
OKC get THjr, Lee
DAL get Paul and 2 1sts.

16 Jul 2019 17:54:58
Why give up the picks?

16 Jul 2019 18:06:47
Denver 2020 first and Clippers 2022 first draft picks? I would probably go for that.

16 Jul 2019 18:51:42
Dallas has pucks left?

16 Jul 2019 20:00:09
DAL gets the 2 1sts they don't trade 2 1sts away.

17 Jul 2019 16:22:40
Two first? I mean OKC move CAP away and gets a younger SG in Hardaway that could become a good scorer to play with SGA. Mavs have their PG in Wright, but to have CP3 instead of THJ, why not. And CP3 is a defender and has experience. But also in this case it would make more sense if Mavs take CP3 and Adams, not sure how the CAP works after Mavs have done a lot of signings. But that could a move that Mavs may try:


Mavs:
- CP3
- Adams
- Any 1st pick unprotected

Thunder:
- Lee
- Hardaway
-?

16 Jul 2019 16:52:48
Washington / Oklahoma City


Wizards gets Adams and Bazley
+5 Wins on the Trade Machine


Thunder get Mahinmi and Miles
-6 Wins on the Trade Machine
Plus a Future 1st and 2nd Round Picks both unprotected. 5 Million Salary Relief.

16 Jul 2019 17:20:27
No one is giving up an unprotected first for Adams.

16 Jul 2019 18:52:15
Plus 5 is still not good for wizards.

16 Jul 2019 13:21:45
Chris Paul and Steven Adams for John Wall and Ian Mahinmi plus 2 1st rd picks..

16 Jul 2019 14:12:13
Washington does better to "wait and see" about John Wall.

I only consider this if Beal signs extension.

16 Jul 2019 17:25:45
Even if Beal extended, is Paul/ Beal/ Adams more than a fringe playoff team? I could see that team miss the playoffs behind Orlando, Miami, Detroit, Brooklyn (and the obvious Bucks, 76ers, Celtics, Pacers) .

Keeping Beal seems like a mistake for Washington in any scenario I can imagine.

16 Jul 2019 18:09:32
They become last years OKC team, but in the East.

16 Jul 2019 19:37:52
I guess you could argue that Washington would have some solid assets to go out and another good guy or two though? I probably wouldn’t, but with Beal in tow, I don’t think it’s horrible. Plus wall looks like straight dead money.

16 Jul 2019 12:26:53
Any news for Chris Paul?? I hope he will go to a contender team.. without doing a buyout contract..

16 Jul 2019 14:13:23
Probably going to have to wait until after the Dec 15th when all players are eligible to be traded.

16 Jul 2019 14:50:03
I think he’s going to be in OKC for the year.

16 Jul 2019 16:47:45
There is literally zero chance anyone buys that contract out. He is owed over 120 million over the next 3 years. There is no chance he'd make even half that if he tried to go elsewhere. So either he would need to just give up like 60-80 million, or the Thunder would need to what, stretch him?

Its an absolutely horrific contract that isn't going anywhere.

16 Jul 2019 18:53:16
Fredman- what contending team has that money for a guy that might play 60 games?

16 Jul 2019 19:39:38
I think you could live with 60 games + playoffs, if he was Chris Paul 2 or 3 years ago, but he took a pretty clear step back last year and at 34 or 35, you don’t tend to take big steps back and then get back to where you were.

16 Jul 2019 11:05:43
MIN-MEM

MIN acquire: Iguodala (exp) & Crowder

Teague-Napier
Culver-Graham-Wallace
Covington-Iguodala
Crowder-Vonleh-Layman
Towns-Bell-Dieng

MEM acquire: Wiggins, Okogie, 1st round pick & 2nd round pick
- waive Hill

Morant-Jones-Melton
Wiggins-Okogie-Allen
Anderson-Brooks-Caboclo
JJJ-Jackson-Clarke
Valanciunas-Plumlee-Rabb

16 Jul 2019 18:53:36
Grizz love it.