NBA rumours 4

09 Sep 2019 00:46:03
Heat: Derozan, Poeltl

Spurs: Winslow, Adebayo, Johnson

08 Sep 2019 16:06:08
Its a trade btw spurs, heat and mavericks after the rumors that says derozan on his way through miami

Heat
İn || derozan and aldridge
Out || olynyk, winslow, herro, dragic and 2026 first

Mavericks
İn || Dragic
Out || Hardaway jr, justin jackson and a second rounder

Spurs
İn || Herro, olynyk, winslow, hardaway jr., justin jackson, 2026 first rounder of heat and second rounder of mavericks
Out || Aldridge and derozan

After trades the main rosters are here

Miami
Bam, aldridge, butler, derozan, wade (according to rumors wade will keep his body ready for a return)

Dallas
Boban, porzingis, luka, seth, dragic

Spurs.

08 Sep 2019 18:56:57
This trade has Miami taking on salary, which is hard to do since they are already up against the hard apron cap set by Butler's S&T. Plus, got to add the salary of the 2 new vacant roster spots (4 players out with 2 players coming in) that will be filled.

08 Sep 2019 12:52:03
Orl-Por

Aaron Gordon, Melvin Frazier

For

Kent Bazemore, Anfernee Simons

Portland wouldn't have to use Zach Collins at the 4. Plus Gordon doesn't need to ball in his hands and is a versatile defender.

Orlando gets backcourt depth and upside with Simons in case Fultz experiment doesn't come to fruition. Bazemore's expiring also offers cap relief.

Portland gets best player, Orlando gets better balance and cap flexibility.

08 Sep 2019 13:46:07
Not enough from pirtland.

08 Sep 2019 14:16:20
You’d need to add a first and probably more.

08 Sep 2019 15:18:10
Aaron gordon is not worth what you are asking for. not only that . portland would hang up the phone laughing at you. besides we got Collins who is on the rise. another dumb fan that doesn't know basketball having a wet dream.

08 Sep 2019 15:52:00
and something that we don't need from Orlando.

08 Sep 2019 17:12:36
David Cone, really? Gordon is a 24 year old borderline allstar that can defend, pass and score off ball. He’s also locked up for 3 more years on a team friendly deal and plays a position that position of need. Not to mention that he has the size and athleticism to guard guys like Lebron and Kawhi. If 5 years from now Simons was half as good as Gordon, the Blazers would be thrilled and you’d still have to make a choice between him and McCollum. Bazemore is just a solid role player.

08 Sep 2019 18:14:47
Portland values Simons incredibly high right now. I think maybe something like Little and a first probably makes more sense. I don’t think they’d include more if they had to include Simons.

09 Sep 2019 15:56:39
That said, Davidcone is ridiculous. Gordon is exactly what Portland needs. Collins isn't doing what Gordon can do. Heck, they'd probably make a great pair at 4 and 5. And the offer isn't ridiculous (unless you want Simons, Collins, and a first for Gordon) .

10 Sep 2019 17:36:22
What are you talking about BMiller? Gordon scored more point on the set of Uncle Drew than he has in the NBA.

13 Sep 2019 20:17:11
Gordon already looks as if he's close to his peak. He's a good player and I think he would be a good fit on Portland but I think Portland is too in love with Simons to give him up for a guy who is not going to make the team significantly better this season.

08 Sep 2019 10:34:44
SAC/PHI

SAC get Horford

PHI get Bjelica, Bogdanovic, Ariza & 1st round pick

Maybe a 3rd team to take Bjelica because of the trouble they had in the past with Philly. This only happens if Horford doesn't work out well with Embiid (i doubt though). This gives Philly some depth while Kings consolidated some assets for an established vet

08 Sep 2019 11:05:00
It feels like to much for Horford imo.

08 Sep 2019 13:28:39
No way the 6ers are tradong Horford. They consider him the answer to bringing the team together and teaching them how to win.

08 Sep 2019 08:46:15
Timberwolves - Thunder

Timberwolves gets:
Paul
Gallinari (expiring)
Muscala (expiring)

Thunder gets:
Wiggins
Teague (expiring)
Dieng
2021 1st rd pick (Lottery protected)

08 Sep 2019 13:55:38
I think the price is fair for MIN, and they can use an upgrade at PG. I have Wiggins as the 2nd worst contract in the NBA abs Paul as #3, so the rest of the package works. Unfortunately, there are two problems.

First, MIN is not a win-now team. They are tremendously shallow after giving up Taj Gibson, Bayless, Tolliver, and Derek Rose in favor of young, unproven player. Improving MIN’s starters is not enough to cover for how badly their bench will do this year, if they are trying to compete.

Second, after the Jimmy Butler debacle, MIN will not risk alienating KAT again by bringing in an alpha male. Chris Paul was demanding the ball from James freakin’ Harden, so he would be a tyrant in MIN. Paul’s deal is better than Wiggins, but to swap his arrogant presence for KAT’s buddy Wiggins would risk the front office’s relationship with their star, and they can’t risk that.

I think any “Chris Paul to MIN” deals are D. O. A. - he is the very last person in the NBA they would trade for.

08 Sep 2019 19:31:57
Not a chance Minnesota trades for CP3. I would rather have Teague at PG, with his expiring contract, over CP3.

Plus, adding CP3 destroys any cap space for Minnesota. Even if they did this trade, they wouldn't have any cap space to add anyone plus are down a 1st round pick.

Minnesota is better off waiting out Teague and Dieng, which would give them cap flexibility, and then draft smart. Maybe they finally get some lottery luck for a change.

07 Sep 2019 22:02:16
Toronto is missing a wing scorer since Leonard is gone. Denver have Harris and Barton on shooting guard and may not have 15m a year to extend Beasley. Detroit may not invest a MAX (32++) in Drummond since they have Griffin and Maker. So Mavs should offer:

Toronto:
- Hardaway
- 2nd pick Mavs

Detoit:
- Ibaka
- 1nd pick Mavs

Dallas:
- Drummond (extend him 4y 140m)
- Beasley (extend him 4y 80m)

Denver:
- Jackson
- 2nd pick Mavs

Toronto get a 20ppg shooter, Denver get a backup for SF, Detroit get a good defender that can strech and share the floor with Griffin. Mavs are all in but get a strong guy in the paint a a promissing and athletic 3 & D player that can also attack the rim. With Wright, Beasley, Doncic, Porzee, Drummond and 6th man Curry they may become good again. : )

08 Sep 2019 02:22:32
That first from Dallas will be conveyed in over 5 years from now? Yikes!

08 Sep 2019 09:54:21
It is a asset. The 1st is first of all a asset! You can use it in a trade as well not only on the draft night.

08 Sep 2019 11:31:31
Why would Denver do this? This is awful for them.

I don’t think Detroit would have much interest either. They’re probably buyers rather than sellers.

07 Sep 2019 12:44:23
Toronto gets Wiggins, Teague(expiring), Bates Diop, Layman, and the 20 and 22 Minnesota 1sts.

Minnesota gets Ibaka(expiring) and Lowry(expiring)

07 Sep 2019 14:20:18
2 firsts? Doubtful.

07 Sep 2019 14:27:48
MIN’s best chance at adding talent is through picks, not clearing salary to try to attract a free agent. They can’t afford to use picks to dump Wiggins awful contract.

07 Sep 2019 15:06:13
You’re not just getting rid of Wiggins. That’s a pretty competent team. It’s time to make a jump or you’re going to lose KAT in a few years.

07 Sep 2019 17:44:57
Put dieng also in the deal to create cap while giving up 2 first.

Also maybe og could be demand too to give up keita bates.

08 Sep 2019 04:08:29
rkenne - that is one year of a better team. KAT is just starting a five year contract with no option on the end. MIN needs to be a good team to convince KAT to stay in year 4, when he has leverage to ask for a trade. The last thing they should do is trade away future picks so they can be good for one single year. If that means they have to keep Wiggins, so be it. He is KAT’s buddy anyway.

08 Sep 2019 11:51:52
You open up space this summer and I don’t think Lowry is a guy that falls off a cliff at any point unless he suffers a major/ chronic injury. He’s just a smart, steady guy that is going to make the right play. Shooting, passing and knowing where to be just don’t go away. You could end up locking him down on a team friendly deal this summer. I think he and Ibaka both complement KAT really well and will only make him better. The biggest question is really Culver. I love Culver. I think he’s going to be really solid from day one and he can grow into a legitimate number 2 guy. I just don’t think sitting on your hands and hoping for some luck in the draft is a smart decision with KAT in tow.

08 Sep 2019 13:46:05
Kyle Lowry is often under-rated, but he will be 34 next season, when he reaches free agency. I agree he is a smart player, but the number of good 34 year old PG’s in NBA history is very small.

If you look at what Rosas did this summer, he worked diligently to add players that align with KAT’s age. He added guys like Jake Layman, Noah Vonleh and Jordan Bell, signed three young guys, (Culver, Naz Reid, Jaylen Nowell), and cast off Taj Gibson, Bayless, Tolliver, and Dereck Rose. MIN is a far shallower team right now, and is spending the season riding a year off bad contracts, and looking for upside plays. I don’t think they can sudden, y become win now - they need to wait at least one year and maybe two, and hope to develop more talent to surround Towns.

10 Sep 2019 16:27:34
Raptors aren't trading Lowry and why would they. the only trades I see that makes sense would be to trade Ibaka and or Gasol. but not both. and keep Lowry he's off the books and will probably sign else where or back with TO for a lot cheaper.

Raptors should try to being back derozan now that they have a few good defensive Forwards and Gasol they'll be much better and another favorite.

07 Sep 2019 05:48:23
Magic/Kings

To Orl: Bogdanovic, Bjelica, Ferrell & 1st round pick

To Sac: Gordon

07 Sep 2019 10:15:18
I’m not really a fan of it for either team. Bagley and Gordon are really similar and I think this is a step back for Orlando. I think they’re more likely to be buyers than sellers with the exception of Vucevic depending on where Bamba is at.

07 Sep 2019 10:35:48
Gordon was one of the guys I was targetting with my other post, but Orlando's roster is kind of full so I don't know how they take on additional players.