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23 Jun 2022 02:12:33
Lakers - Hayward & 15
Hornets - Westbrook

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23 Jun 2022 03:06:33
Pick is going the wrong way.

23 Jun 2022 04:06:18
Russ is just as good as Hayward plus on an expiring contract? I get the hate for Russ but no way is Hayward better lol, especially given Hayward’s injury history.

23 Jun 2022 05:04:42
Lmao JJPR i don't know how you understand basketball.

23 Jun 2022 05:09:26
Nobody wants Russ, even on expiring. At least Hayward is dependable. How do you get a productive player AND a lottery pick for Russell freaking Westbrook?

23 Jun 2022 14:34:50
How is Hayward dependable when he’s injury prone? He hasn’t played over 52 games in 5 years lol, that’s the definition of not dependable.

23 Jun 2022 01:28:54
Knicks 2-Part Move for Jaden Ivey

1. Burks, Noel, Kemba, #42 for Hayward, #15

2 . Cam Reddish, #11, #15, 2023 Dallas pick (20-30 range), 2024 pick swap for #5 since Kings probably going Keegan Murray.

PG Ivey
SG Barrett
SF Hayward
PF Randle
C Robinson
6th: Rose
7-10: Toppin, Quickley, Grimes, Claxton (MLE)

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23 Jun 2022 03:43:14
i think the Pistons might be thinking something like this as well.

22 Jun 2022 23:15:36
MAVS trade powell and hardaway

CHA Hayward & 13th

Mavs draft C M Williams (duke)

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23 Jun 2022 01:17:39
This doesn't really save Charlotte that much money.

22 Jun 2022 22:08:49
Pistons fans lmao 🤣

Y'all traded Grant for Bucks picks

Blazers won the trade y'all thought getting 7 pick

I'm enjoying this

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22 Jun 2022 22:22:43
Nobody thought they were getting the 7th pick for Grant did they? Most of these players don't have the value that most people think.

22 Jun 2022 22:23:45
It’s been fun trying to convince the pistons fans that this was the likely outcome.

I was called an idiot, and Grant ended up being traded for less than I thought.

22 Jun 2022 22:38:27
Yeah i'm with you. Lmao.

22 Jun 2022 23:17:08
Pistons get a first and cap space. It could've been worse I guess, barely.

22 Jun 2022 23:39:56
enjoy it cause it was a salary dump to get Ayton.

22 Jun 2022 23:50:36
why are you enjoying this btw? i am just curious.

23 Jun 2022 00:00:47
Wow, just saw this. Grant for '25 first (via Bucks) and 3 seconds (#36 this year, then '25 and '26).

Only thing I can think is Pistons are clearing space and playing time for whoever they pick at 5, and to make a run at Ayton.

23 Jun 2022 00:12:47
Pistons management probably feels this is just part of the price tag for Ayton, and if they get him then they win the trade from their perspective. but it does seem a little short when you think of RoCo getting 2 1sts in recent years. would have thought Grant's value would be close.

23 Jun 2022 00:32:26

could end up very enjoyable.

23 Jun 2022 01:19:27
And what happens if Phoenix matches Detroit's offer for Ayton?

23 Jun 2022 02:12:17
Or Ayton never comes to Detroit and you traded Grant away for very little.

23 Jun 2022 02:25:43
Phx will not just let ayton go. For 1 ayton wants as much money as he can get so if he wants out it has to be a sign and trade or he loses that 5th year. 2 if phx matches a Max offer it saves them more then if they offer him one. 3 even if they don't want to pay him max money they can sign him and then trade him later when they can take back full salary. And 4 any team that offers ayton a Max deal will have to wait for phx to decide if they will match. Causing them to miss out on all the other free agents if or I should say when phx matches.

23 Jun 2022 03:49:17
then we are left with close to 60 mil in cap space.

23 Jun 2022 05:12:18
It really feels like Hayward ends up in Detroit as a salary dump.

23 Jun 2022 12:13:16
@Skillz - an RFA can not sign a 5 year contract in a sign and trade. the salary and terms (years and annual increases) can only be the max 4 year that any team with space can offer. Ayton only gets 5 years if Phoenix offers it and he signs that deal. yes, Phoenix can match and trade later but if he doesn't want to be there they run the risk of him messing up team chemistry or just go out and dog it like Vince Carter did to the Raptors when he forced his trade out of Toronto. it might still be their best move, but it carries risk in itself.

25 Jun 2022 04:50:26
man i had to come back to this post. the Pistons wanted 2 specific guys and got them both.

Orlando "might" regret not taking Smith #1 but at least they got their franchise player if he is as good as advertised.

i am really enjoying this. Troy Weaver took Jerami Grant and magically turned him into Jalen Duren. God Mode Shxt!

22 Jun 2022 20:51:50
Phoenix - Charlotte - Portland

Phoenix get 15

Charlotte get Cam Johnson, Jusuf Nurkic, Eric Bledsoe

Portland get Gordon Hayward, 13 & future 1st from Phoenix

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22 Jun 2022 21:52:01
which team/ teams lose a 2nd round pick for tampering.

23 Jun 2022 00:28:51
Rumors are suns may trade cam for the 8th pick. Why would they throw in a future first along with him for the 15th?

22 Jun 2022 19:17:21
Anny chance Sacramento takes Murray and Detroit passeson Ivey? So can play for Indy?

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22 Jun 2022 21:34:13
I’ll say 0%.

22 Jun 2022 21:57:37
I think there is a Ivey-Murray trade that is dependent on Detroit not drafting Murray.

22 Jun 2022 23:56:09
if Sac doesn't play nice and take Murray at 4, they will never see him again.

22 Jun 2022 19:16:26
Knicks: Brogdon+ M Turner

Rockets: Toppin+ Noel+Fournier+ K Walker+ 6# (draft Sharpe)

Indy: J Wall+ #3 (Draft Banchero)

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22 Jun 2022 20:36:53
Can't see Indiana trading productive players and take on Wall just to move up 3 spots.

And I don't think Knicks are giving up enough to get Brodgon and Turner.

22 Jun 2022 20:40:02
I forgot

The knicks also trade#11
But should it go to Indy or Houston?

22 Jun 2022 20:52:46
Gasupo, to Houston.

22 Jun 2022 21:35:11
If I’m Indiana I’m extremely happy getting a 40mil expiring contract and Banchero.

22 Jun 2022 17:59:48
1) Indy-Nets-Clippers

Nets:M turner+Powell
Indy:Kennard+ 1rnd pick Philly 2023+1rnd pick Philly 2027+1rnd pick Clippers 2028

Indy: Westbrook+ 1rnd pick LA 2026 and 2028

C: Hartenstein
SG:P George

C:M Turner
SG:S Curry

C:D Howard
PF: A Davis
SF: LB James
SG: Hield

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22 Jun 2022 18:51:16
Is that 3 1sts plus Kennard for the expiring and recently oft injured Turner? The expiring of Wood just got #26 and junk. I know Turner is held in higher regard but I don't think he gets nearly this much.

22 Jun 2022 18:59:32
Pretty clear Pacers aren't taking on Westbrook especially for picks they won't see for 4-6 years.

22 Jun 2022 20:35:37
The second trade, Indy should be all over that.


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