NBA rumours 6

15 Jul 2019 20:14:31
here's a cp trade idea. many are under the belief that derozan may not be the answer in san antonio

CP and 2022 and 2023 1sts to Spurs
Derozan and Mills to OKC

Spurs:
CP/ White/ Forbes
Murray/ Walker/ Johnson
Belinelli/ Carroll
Gay/ Lyles/ Samanic
Aldridge/ Poetl/ Metu

OKC:
Shai/ Mills
Derozan/ Schroeder/ Diallo
Roberson/ Ferguson/ Nader/
Gallinari/ Patterson/ Bazley
Adams/ Noel/ Muscala.

15 Jul 2019 23:01:10
Murray is not a SG. Spurs will not push him to the bench for the next 3 years.

16 Jul 2019 03:38:24
Can’t trade back to back firsts.

Don’t see the Spurs being interested in pushing Murray to the bench for Paul.

16 Jul 2019 17:15:36
Murray is not a SG? Yet in both seasons that he has played, he has never averaged over 3 assists per game? he is 6'5 and fits the body type for a SG. In this scenario, they would likely start him off the bench recovering from his injury.

@triangle In this case, they could. I should have specified, but they have multiple firsts from multiple teams over those 2 years that they can trade and not trade their own or only one of them.

15 Jul 2019 19:16:44
Looks like Chris Paul will be a Thunder for the remaining of his contract and possibly the Thunder could buy out his last year.

So, no trade is in the works.

15 Jul 2019 20:25:13
So stop listing trade scenarios for Pual?

15 Jul 2019 20:33:35
I'd be shocked if he were there for that long.

15 Jul 2019 21:57:01
No way Paul plays more than a year there. I don't see him there past the trade deadline. The longer they have Paul the longer they are slowing the development of their young players SGA, Diallo, Ferguson the only one it wouldn't slow down is Bazley.

15 Jul 2019 22:38:33
They’re pretty much stuck with him unless they want to give up picks or take on Wall.

15 Jul 2019 23:03:40
Paul to the Knicks? They are not doing anything with their cap space for the next 3 years.

16 Jul 2019 03:38:55
Fredman. Knicks already turned down CP3 for free when Houston tried to move him a couple of weeks ago.

15 Jul 2019 16:15:00
OKC ORL

OKC Bamba and Augustin
ORL Schroder 2020 Den 1st, 2023 Mia 1st, 2024 Okc 2nd of needed

ORL gets draft picks and a starting caliber PG. They give up Bamba which after commiting to Vucevic parting ways with him shouldn't be that hard.

OKC does lose some picks they just got, but they move Schroder who they no longer need and get a young C to pair with SGA for their rebuild. SGA and Bamba could be a good young PG/ C combo.

15 Jul 2019 17:45:03
Could see this if Adams was traded prior to this deal.

FYI. OKC can not trade its 2024 2nd rounder because it may be sent to ATL if the Thunders 2022 first rounder is not conveyed because of the protection on the pick.

15 Jul 2019 18:25:25
I’d rather have Augustine than Schroeder and I highly doubt that they’d have interest in moving Bamba unless they were getting a star back.

16 Jul 2019 18:57:49
Rkeene for 2 firsts bamba is gone.

15 Jul 2019 15:55:52
OKC CHI

OKC Dunn, Felicio, future 2nd if needed
CHI Schroder

CHI gets rid of Felicio who they don't want and has a bad contract. They give up Dunn who they don't believe in any more and a future 2nd if needed. They get back a PG that can start or be solid for them off the bench depending on what they decide to do with White.

OKC gets rid of Schroder who no longer fits what they need and they save a lil money. Presti has history of taking chances on previous lottery picks who haven't worked out for their previous team and giving them a 2nd chance. Assuming the trade Paul and SGA starts at PG they can have Dunn playing back up.

15 Jul 2019 18:26:53
Drop the 2nd on Chicago’s side and add a 1st from OKC. Unless someone is just giving up bad money, I can’t see much interest out there for Schroeder.

15 Jul 2019 15:49:27
Pacers: Porter Jr. Harris

Nuggets: Leaf, 2 1st, 2 2nds, Mcdermott, Sumner.

15 Jul 2019 17:49:15
Indy doesn't have the $10 mil in cap space for the additional salary for Harris + Porter, Jr.

15 Jul 2019 18:32:17
Denver is giving up the two best things in the deal. Seems like a big no from them. It seems like they're a bit obsessed with Porter, I don't see him being traded unless they can land a star.

17 Jul 2019 02:48:03
I don't see the Pacers making any trade until closer to the trade deadline. They have to wait and see what Sabonis does with his extension offer next month, and when or if Oladipo can play. The Pacers want Sumner to play this season. If Sabonis turns down his extension, I think Sabonis for Montrezll Harrell would be fair. Clippers get a center and Pacers would get a true power forward. Both were runners up in 6th man of year award and salaries match. If Oladipo comes back healthy, Lamb could be available.

15 Jul 2019 15:43:46
Pacers: Anunoby

Raptors: Leaf, Mcdermott, 2 2nds.

15 Jul 2019 15:42:35
If MIN struggles again and Towns wants out

MIN/NYK/IND

MIN get Sabonis, Portis, Robinson, Ntilikina, Morris (exp), Barrett & 2 1st from NYK

Pg Teague/Ntilikina
Sg Barrett/Culver
Sf Wiggins/Okogie/Bates
Pf Portis/Morris/Layman
Ce Sabonis/Robinson/Dieng

NYK get Towns & Covington

Pg Smith/Payton
Sg Ellington/Trier
Sf Covington/Bullock/Dotson
Pf Randle/Gibson
Ce Towns/Kornet

IND get Knox & 1st round pick from NYK via DAL

Pg Brogdon/McConnell
Sg Oladipo/Lamb
Sf Warren/McDermott
Pf Knox/Leaf
Ce Turner/Bitadze

15 Jul 2019 16:58:15
Won’t be any better in New York.

15 Jul 2019 17:01:26
That's not enough for Towns. And you want Covington as well?

15 Jul 2019 17:46:57
That's more then enough for towns.

15 Jul 2019 17:53:36
So the Knicks give up more to get Towns than what they got for Porzingis. If that ain't disfunctional, I don't know what is.

15 Jul 2019 18:10:34
Well, they got less for Porzingis because they were desperate to unload contracts to free up cap space to sign Marcus Morris and Taj Gibson. Logic.

15 Jul 2019 13:10:17
Orl gs

Gordon augustin

For

Russell.

15 Jul 2019 13:29:51
I don't how money could work but Russell for Fournier and gordon will make sense for both.

15 Jul 2019 13:46:12
Fournier+ A Gordon+ a draft pick.

Russel was an all star last year.

15 Jul 2019 14:23:22
Hard to do Fournier + Gordon for DLo when Golden State is hard capped. Not sure GS has the salary cap fillers for thst deal.

15 Jul 2019 20:45:18
Without Livingston gs is without a backup pg capable of competing. I assumed it would strengthen their team better and he's expiring whereas Fournier isn't. Maybe add a first?

15 Jul 2019 12:40:32
ORL/GS/MIN

ORL get Jeff Teague (exp), Alfonso McKinnie & 1st round pick MIN
- get a vet point guard to lead the team while also acquiring some wing depth. The 1st is the deal sweetener as they are losing Gordon

Pg Teague/Augustin/Fultz
Sg Fournier/Ross
Sf Isaac/MCkinnie/Iwundu
Pf Aminu/Birch/Martin
Ce Vucevic/Bamba

GS get Aaron Gordon, Robert Covington, MCW & 2nd round pick ORL & MIN
- get players that will fit in perfectly especially when Klay is back

Pg Curry/MCW/Poole
Sg Covington/Burks/Thompson
Sf Green/Robinson
Pf Gordon/Paschall/Smailagic
Ce Looney/WCS

If Klay comes back the line up Curry/Klay/Covington/Gordon/Green would be very interesting

MIN get Dlo Russell
- get their PG to play with Towns and Wiggins

Pg Russell
Sg Culver
Sf Wiggins
Pf Layman
Ce Towns

15 Jul 2019 14:10:58
Overpay for Minnesota. Covington has is on one of the best non-rookie contracts in the NBA. They should not be giving up draft picks in this deal.

15 Jul 2019 14:39:09
Bad for Orlando, too good for the Warriors.

15 Jul 2019 16:32:42
Curry, Thompson, Covington, Gordon, Green would be a pretty scary small ball lineup.

Covington might be a really good value contract, but he's not that great of a player. He's no where close to as good as Russell. You pay for talent, not for value contracts.

I think I hate this for Orlando. Doesn't seem like enough for Gordon.

15 Jul 2019 06:42:01
John Wall for Chris Paul who says no?

For Washington they can make an strong playoff push around a back court of Beal and CP3. Paul's contract is shorter and is capable of playing 80% of a season.

For OKC they take a swing at a higher potential PG who when healthy was a top 5 PG in the league (2 years ago).

What are your thoughts?

15 Jul 2019 08:41:33
John Wall may never be the same.

15 Jul 2019 08:51:51
Not until Wall comes back. As of now, OKC would rather have Paul. They can flip him for something.

15 Jul 2019 09:17:39
Washington should trade Beal, but it's a good trade if they want to compete. The problem is, that CP3 is going to be a pain in the ass in Washington, because he wants to play for a better team.

OKC can take the risk, they have a lot of rookie contracts and they don't get much value for Paul.

15 Jul 2019 09:22:57
The Thunder say no. Wall is impossible to trade, has an extra year, is making more (OKC is over the tax still), and Wall looks like a guy that will struggle to come back from that injury. The Thunder would need multiple picks to do this.

15 Jul 2019 13:24:45
Only way that happens is if Okc gets 3 1st round picks unprotected or something crazy like that.

15 Jul 2019 14:12:50
Wizards should be like OKC and be in asset collection mode and build for the future. To me, that means trading Beal before he becomes a free agent n 2021.

20 Jul 2019 05:24:45
INSANE idea.
Only way that sounds good is if they throw in Beal. Then the answer should be ABSOLUTELY.
Otherwise, whatever Wall was before, he will never be again and that’s a ton more money than what we are trying to get rid of with PG.
By the time Wall comes back, there will only be 2 years left on CP’s contract.