NBA rumours 3

17 Jul 2019 18:08:28
Warriors - SGA and Gallo (Hou first If needed)

Thunder - Dlo

- Warriors add a scoring forward to fill in for KD's role plus another young combo guard who can fit with Curry due to his height and perimeter defense

- Thunder add an all star PG who has more potential than SGA. Turns PG into Dlo and 5 1sts.

Curry
SGA(Thompson)
Gallo
Green
WCS

CP3
Dlo
Roberson
Bazley
Adams

17 Jul 2019 19:38:30
Very interesting idea. But I have a hard time seeing PKc moving SGA. I bet they hang on to him. However, I could see them targeting DLo and giving the Warriors depth and picks in December.

17 Jul 2019 15:36:38
OKC/ MIA/ DAL

OKC gets Dragic and Winslow and protections removed from the Miami 2023 1st

MIA gets Paul and C. Lee plus their 2021 1st via the Thunder

Dal get Olynyk and Nader

Miami gets Paul and Lee, who fit well around Butler, as well as picking up a first round pick back. OKC saves some picks, gets an expiring contract in Dragic and an asset in Winslow. Dallas flips Lee for a shooting big and a young wing player. Who says no?

17 Jul 2019 16:16:10
Sooooo. Currently Miami is less than $1 under their hard cap imposed by the Butler S&T. This trade has Miami taking on around $5 mil in additional salary. So Miami has to add salary just to make the numbers work.

As for OKC, I think they are more open sending Miami Denver's 2020 first than one of the Miami picks.

17 Jul 2019 15:13:21
GS-MIN-ORL

GS: Evan Fournier, Robert Covington & 1st from MIN

Curry/Poole
Fournier/Burks/(Klay)
Covington/McKinnie
Green/Paschall/Smailagic
Cauley-Stein/Looney/Spellman

MIN: D'Angelo Russell

Russell/Napier
Culver/Okogie/Wallace
Wiggins/Bates/Graham
Vonleh/Layman/Reid
Towns/Dieng/Bell

MEM: Jeff Teague (exp)

Teague/Augustin/MCW
Ross/Iwundu/Fultz
Aminu/Isaac
Gordon/Martin
Vucevic/Bamba/Birch

17 Jul 2019 15:42:50
I like this trade for Golden State and Minny but I don't know if Orlando does this. Considering that both Fournier and Teague are expirings (Fournier has a player option after this year - which I think he'll decline), I would rather have Fournier.

I think attaching a pick next to Teague would give the Magic a greater incentive to do this trade.

17 Jul 2019 16:22:14
I am with this if there is a lottery protection on the Minny's first rounder.

17 Jul 2019 18:01:43
Fournier will opt in. I doubt any team gives him the same amount he’s earning now.

17 Jul 2019 22:11:28
Would rather have Orlando directly offer Fournier, Iwundu (or Augustine) a unprotected first for Dlo to GS.

17 Jul 2019 13:07:51
If warriors don't see Thompson back 2019-20, Russell at sg is not as effective as he is at PG. This idea clears Greene for max money.

Warriors get Randle Barrett Smithjr Knox ny 20 22 24 26 dal 21 23 (6 1st)

Knicks get Curry Robinson Burks

Russell/Smithjr/Poole
Thompson/Barrett/McKenie
Green/Knox/Evans
Randle/Looney/Paschall
Stein/Spellman/Smailagic

Curry/Payton/Ntilikina
Ellington/Burks/Dotson
Bullock/Robinson/Wilkes
Portis/Morris/Brazdeikas
Robinson/Gibson/Gortat-fa

17 Jul 2019 15:42:40
Good luck.

17 Jul 2019 15:44:01
It'a a package that is probably enough value, I just don't see GS giving up on this group. They still have the most top end talent in the NBA, if Klay comes back healthy in February/ March, I'd give them as good of a chance to win it all as anyone. You don't just break that up.

17 Jul 2019 19:16:12
Bmiller for 1 thompson isn't coming back next season. And even if he did yur 3 best players are guards. Draymond is one of the most overrated players in the league. Only reason he made all star teams is because the warriors were one of the top teams in the west. Warriors won't make the playoffs, and I wouldn't be shocked if they finish bottom 10 in the league.

17 Jul 2019 20:29:04
ACL is generally 6-8 months, meaning he should be back before March. I'd be shocked if he missed all of next season. And Klay is 6'7, he's perfectly fine playing SF.

Draymond is probably the most versatile defender in the NBA. He's a GREAT passer. He's a pretty good rebounder. He's basically the bigger version of Rondo. As a #1 option, he's terrible. But I'd make the argument that he is the PERFECT NBA role player.

Russell lead a team of misfits to the playoffs (granted in the east, but still) . Add him to two future hall of famers (then a third when Klay comes back) makes them a bottom 10 team in the NBA? That's satire right?

Curry/ Thompson/ Green won a championship! But now that they're absolute peak age, they're bottom feeders?

At the end of the day, you don't break up a team that could win a championship. And GS could do that for the next few years. They're not head and shoulders above everyone else any more, but they're right at the top when fully healthy.

17 Jul 2019 22:08:46
Minor correction BMiller. Curry/ Thompson/ Green (AND A DEEP BENCH) won a championship. They don't have that bench at the moment.

18 Jul 2019 00:22:40
Did Iggy and Livingston really drive those championship teams to the point that they’re now a lottery team?

18 Jul 2019 02:45:28
When GS with a deep bench was pushing for their first title, was the Western Conference this deep?

the lack of bench, as well at the depth of the West, is one of several factors that will make it harder for the warriors to make the playoffs.

Is it possible that they miss the playoffs? Yes. And if they were to miss the playoffs, this appears to be the season that it happens.

18 Jul 2019 02:55:53
Also, remeber that GS ended up only 18 games ahead of the 9th seed last year. So does losing Durant, Thompson (for around 60 games), Livingston, Iggy, Cook, and a few games with Cousins while the only significant addition being Russell equal less than 18 more losses in a deeper Western Confetence? Opinions will vary.

18 Jul 2019 05:24:39
Even if they miss the playoffs this year, they’re set the following year to compete.

And yes, I think the west has been this deep for quite a while. The Spurs were great then. The Grizz were really good. Portland was about the same as now. OKC had their big 3.

17 Jul 2019 12:28:48
About to go down. Not sure about all the pieces from okc.

CP3 Muscala Burton
For
Dragic Leonard Waiters

18 Jul 2019 02:45:55
Nice try!

17 Jul 2019 11:29:27
CLE-BOS-MIA

CLE acquire: Gordon Hayward, Kelly Olynyk, 1st round pick from BOS, 2025 1st from MIA, 2nd round pick BOS

BOS acquire: Tristan Thompson (exp) & James Johnson

MIA acquire: Kevin Love

17 Jul 2019 12:15:28
No not 2025, now if you said 2035 1st maybe 🤣.

17 Jul 2019 12:58:40
It’s ok Shizzee, I know that there are 3 pfs being traded here and that clearly hurts the Knicks’ plan of only having pfs on the roster, but there are more fish in the sea.

17 Jul 2019 13:22:40
Knicks have flexibility

Cavs get Randle Harkless
Knicks get Harrell Dellavedova
Blazers get Love Ntilikina
Clippers get Nurkic Bazemore.

17 Jul 2019 17:00:31
No way I'd trade Nurkic for Love. Portland has to keep all of Lillard, McCollum, and Nurkic and add to it. It's the only way if they want to compete.

18 Jul 2019 01:10:09
BMiller, I don’t see why they would need to anyway. There are logical trades between the Cavs and Portland directly that would make more sense. 2 or 3 picks or young players plus Whiteside is likely far more interesting for both teams.

19 Jul 2019 04:47:28
Agreed, Nurkic (and McCollum) don’t have much value to a rebuilding team.

17 Jul 2019 11:17:22
1) GS-Philly
GS:Simmons+ 1rnd pick OKC (propably 2 2rnd picks in 2022 and 2023)+ 2rnd pick atlanta 2020+ 1rnd pick Philly 2022 (lottery protected)

Philly: S curry

2)GS-Orl
GS:fournier+ 1rnd pick Orl+ 2rnd pick LA
Orl: D Green

Ok, everybody is going to kill me , but i like this trade for both teams.

I don't like the backcourt Russell-Curry. The most logical is trading Russell, but i don't think they get good value for him. Curry is the best player in the NBA, but he is aging, has a big contract and a bad ankle, so why not trade him when he's still in his prime. Curry can play in an easyer East and other players can take the load in the regular season, so he's top during the playoffs.


Philly becomes the favorite in the east:
C:Embiid
PF:Horford
SF:Harris
SG:Richardson
PG:S Curry
Sixth:Z Smith

Simmons is a better fit in a team with shooters.
C: Looney/Stein
PF:B Simmons
SF:Fournier
SG: K thompson
PG:Russell
Sixth: smailagic
GS becomes younger, they get extra assets and they can retool arround Simmons-Thompson and Russell and become conters again in a year or two. And they trade D Green, because he's going to ask maw money next year.

17 Jul 2019 11:30:06
There is no way the Warriors deal Curry.

17 Jul 2019 11:46:41
I think the Curry Russell backcourt will work on offense. I think Curry takes the Thompson role on offense, running around and coming off screens with Russell being the primary playmaker.

However, on defense is where I don't see how this works.

17 Jul 2019 12:23:01
If the Warriors play the Clippers and the Clippers starts with Beverley/ Kawhi/ George/ Harkless/ Zubac that will be a problem for them. Who will guard Kawhi when he plays the 2?

17 Jul 2019 12:31:41
I would give up Randle Smithjr Knox Barrett and 6 1st for Curry. Everyone accept Robinson.

17 Jul 2019 13:33:13
All orlando has is pf and centers. You expect them to want green for their only shooter?

17 Jul 2019 15:46:58
Klay guards George, Green guards Kawhi. Then one of the guards (Curry or Russell) guards Harkless, who has proven he can't take advantage of a mismatch in the playoffs for years.

That said, that lineup for the Clippers is really really scary on both ends of the ball.

17 Jul 2019 16:28:00
Doesnt really matter who guards who until the playoffs when thompson will be back.

17 Jul 2019 17:01:57
Right, regular season defensive mismatches are pretty irrelevant. If GS gets swept by the Clippers in the regular season, it is what it is. I'm sure they don't really care so long as they get into the playoffs with Thompson back healthy.

17 Jul 2019 21:09:23
İf curry on the table warriors can get 28 better offer from that one.

17 Jul 2019 04:46:25
Miami and OKC
Miami gets CP3, Roberson, one first and one second.
OKC gets Dragic, Johsnon, Olynyk and Waiters

Why? Because OKC wants to rid themselves of CP3 and Roberson is coming off an injury.
Miami needs to rid themselves of their contracts and needs the pick to trade to Washington.

MIami and Washington.
Miami gets Beal and Wall.
Washington gets Winslow, CP3, KZ, Roberson, Leonard, 2 first round picks, one second.

Why?
Miami has been seeking Beal and rumors have it that they would have to absorb Walls contract too.
Washington needs youth, they switch and get an old healthier PG and rid themselves of wall who is suffering from a ruptured Achilles.
For Beal they are getting 2 first and one second picks, Winslow and other youth.
Washingron and OKC bothbget to rebuild and Miami gets to try and fight for the east

My opinion

17 Jul 2019 08:10:41
It makes zero sense for OKC. Giving picks and taking long term contracts? Why? CP3 could be a great mentor for the young guys. If they trade him only if they get something back! For example expiring contracts and a first. So OKC would do nothing different than:

OKC:
- Dragic
- Leonard
- take away protection of the Miami 1st in 2023

Miami:
- CP3.

17 Jul 2019 11:51:19
The word on the street is Miami wants one of its picks that OKC owns returned to take on Paul's contract.

There is also word that Paul is willong to opt out his last year in order to sign a 3 year extension at a lower number.

17 Jul 2019 02:11:06
MIN-HOU-WAS

WAS gets Wiggins, Capela, Gordon

HOU gets Beal

MIN gets Wall and WAS 2nd rd pick 2020

min does this because Teague is on his last year and they can let him walk when wall comes back.


Thomas/ Ish Smith
Gordon / Brown
Wiggins/ Rui/ Schofield
Bertans/ Wes Johnson
Capela/ Bryant


RW
Beal
Harden
Tucker
Faried/ Nene



Projected 2021 LU

Wall
Culver
Covington/ Okogie
Bell/ Dieng
Towns.

17 Jul 2019 13:34:29
Keeping Wiggins is cheaper for wolves. Wall is hurt and just as ineffective.

17 Jul 2019 01:49:34
HOU-CLE-ORL

HOU gets Love, Bamba


CLE gets Capela, Fournier


ORL gets Clarkson, Gordon




RW/ Rivers
Harden/ Green
Tucker/ House
Love/ Nene
Bamba/ Chandler/ Faried


Sexton/ Garland
Fournier/ Windler
Osman/ KPJ
Nance/ Henson
Capela/ Thompson


Augustin/ Fultz
Clarkson/ Ross
EG/ Aminu
AG/ Issac
Vuc/ Birch.