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27 Jan 2021 09:04:57
ORL clean the house


ORL get Norman Powell, Aaron Baynes, Patrick McCaw, 2021 1st & 2023 lottery protected 1st or 2 2nds

TOR get Nikola Vucevic & Dwayne Bacon
- get a quality all-star center
- sign Dewayne Dedmon

Pg Lowry/Flynn/Davis
Sg VanVleet/Bacon/Bembry
Sf Anunoby/Thomas/Johnson
Pf Siakam/Boucher/Watanabe
Ce Vucevic/Dedmon


ORL get Justise Winslow (exp) & lottery protected 1st

MEM get Evan Fournier & 2nd rd pick
- adds firepower on their wing

Pg Morant/Melton/Jones
Sg Brooks/Bane
Sf Fournier/Anderson
Pf Jackson/Clarke/Tillaman
Ce Valanciunas/Dieng


ORL get Tomas Satoransky & Lauri Markkanen

CHI get Aaron Gordon & MCW
- get a more athletic, better defensive PF

Pg White/Arcidiacono/MCW
Sg Lavine/Temple
Sf Williams/Porter/Hutchinson
Pf Gordon/Young
Ce Carter/Gafford/Felicio

ORL need to lose as many games as possible and have a shot for a top5 pick in 2021 draft to get a possible franchise player

Their line up for the rest of the year

Pg Anthony/Satoransky/Fultz
Sg Powell/McCaw
Sf Ennis/Winslow/Clark
Pf Markkanen/Okeke/Aminu/Isaac
Ce Bamba/Baynes/Birch

1.) 27 Jan 2021 12:09:34
I've proposed this trade for Vuc before. MD must be furious now.

2.) 27 Jan 2021 13:28:06
I agree there's value in the trade (the first one, with Toronto) but I'm not sure Vukevic is a good fit with the Raptors. I think the Raptors want a big body that can bang in the paint with Embiid.

3.) 27 Jan 2021 16:36:36
I’m okay with it I like all these deals we need these picks.

4.) 27 Jan 2021 18:08:29
@windrpsfan. Len was not a "banger" in the paint?

5.) 27 Jan 2021 18:30:35
@fredman. not sure what happened with Len. I think he was expecting to be #2 at the 5 with Boucher backing up the 4. when that didn't work out he kinda quit on them. worth noting that he had the worst +/ - on the team in limited minutes.
what they need is Marc Gasol from at least 2, but preferably 4 or 5 years ago. i don't see too many candidates for that role.



26 Jan 2021 20:28:29

NOP get VanVleet, Powell & Baynes

Pg Vanvleet/Bledsoe
Sg Reddick/Powell
Sf Ingram/Hart
Pf Williamson/Melli
Ce Baynes/Hayes

TOR get Adams, NAW, Ball & 2nd round pick

Pg Lowry/Ball/Flynn
Sg NAW/Thomas
Sf Anunoby/Johnson/McCaw
Pf Siakam/Boucher
Ce Adams/

1.) 26 Jan 2021 20:32:31
I wish, but Toronto turns that down

2.) 27 Jan 2021 01:52:20
Adams is no better a fit in Toronto than he is in New Orleans. Not giving up Freddy for that.

3.) 27 Jan 2021 12:21:34
Yeah, I'd love it for the Pels too. Raps say no, thank you, though.



26 Jan 2021 14:20:37

DEN get Bradley Beal & Isaac Bonga
- Beal instantly elevates DEN chance to win the west

Pg Murray/Morris/Campazzo
Sg Beal/Dozier
Sf Barton/Bonga
Pf Millsap/Green
Ce Jokic/Bol/Hartenstein

WSH get Michael Porter, Gary Harris, RJ Hampton & 2 1st round picks + 2nd round picks
- If they keep on losing, Beal wouldn't be pleased and if time comes that he's available, this is a good haul for him

Pg Westbrook/Smith/Hampton
Sg Harris/Brown
Sf Porter/Avdija
Pf Hachimura/Bertans/Wagner
Ce Lopez/Paseckniks/Bryant (inj)

1.) 26 Jan 2021 15:18:13
Love it.

2.) 26 Jan 2021 15:27:28
hmmm. just not sure how a Beal-Murray back court works. They are kinda of the same player.

3.) 26 Jan 2021 16:43:10
I think it’ll work like the Blazers duo has been. They can both play on/ off the ball. Defense will be the worry for them also.

4.) 26 Jan 2021 19:28:56
Let me rephrase. Not sure how a Beal-Murray backcourt works with the ball in Jokic's hands.

5.) 26 Jan 2021 20:32:24
Isn't that a good problem to have Fred? Beal is a stud.

6.) 26 Jan 2021 22:40:42
Not if you have to pay "full price" for Beal and not get "full" Beal because of the rest of the team. That is mismanagement.

What if Porter "grows" into Beal? then all the other assets are "wasted".

7.) 27 Jan 2021 05:00:58
But you think of the present. If you want to win, you bet on established stars and think about what ifs in the future. Lakers gave up a lot for Davis not thinking what if Ingram grows into a Davis, Nets clean the house for Harden because they want to win. Denver have the assets to go for a star and keep a competitive line up so if there's a chance, they should consider it.



26 Jan 2021 11:52:54
Will you do this DarryD


TOR get Herro, Olynyk, Harris, Scott & 1st round pick PHI, MIA 2nd round pick

Pg Vanvleet/Davis/Flynn
Sg Herro/Thomas
Sf Anunoby/Powell/Johnson
Pf Harris/Scott
Ce Boucher/Olynyk/Baynes

MIA get Siakam & Poirier

Pg Dragic/Nunn
Sg Robinson/Bradley
Sf Butler/Harkless
Pf Siakam/Achiuwa
Ce Adebayo/Leonard

PHI get Lowry & Iguodala

Pg Lowry/Milton
Sg Curry/Maxey
Sf Green/Thybulle
Pf Simmons/Iguodala
Ce Embiid/Howard

I think money is a little off maybe Philly needs to throw some more salary, perhaps,send Green to Raptors instead of Scott i don't know

1.) 26 Jan 2021 13:12:17
This would be an ideal Siakam trade.

2.) 26 Jan 2021 13:59:38
If it was just Siakam. not giving up Lowry as well for that package. Toronto trading 2 allstars for a maybe allstar in the future and a 1st? . no way Ujiri agrees to this deal.

3.) 26 Jan 2021 14:48:06
If Lowry agrees then it’s a go.

4.) 26 Jan 2021 15:18:59
wIndrapsfan, have you even seen Herro play? The dude is a beast. A Herro/ VanVleet backcourt is a top 5 backcourt for sure.

5.) 26 Jan 2021 15:33:25
Interesting, but how does this trade address any of Toronto's weaknesses?

6.) 26 Jan 2021 18:46:34
@darry Toronto giving up the 2 best players in this trade. Herro is good, and may develop into an allstar, but siakam is allnba, and lowry is toronto's alltime best player. and, as fredman points out, this trade does nothing to address the biggest weakness at the 5.



24 Jan 2021 01:03:16

HOU get Al Horford, 1st round pick GS & 2nd round pick OKC

Pg Wall
Sg Oladipo
Sf House
Pf Wood
Ce Horford

OKC get Andrew Wiggins

Pg Shai
Sg Dort
Sf Wiggins
Pf Bazley
Ce Pokusevski

GS get PJ Tucker & Eric Gordon

Pg Curry/Wanamaker
Sg Gordon/Lee/Klay
Sf Oubre/Bazemore
Pf Green/Tucker
Ce Wiseman/Paschall/Looney

1.) 24 Jan 2021 04:25:11
Kinda like this one. Just not sure Pokusevski is ready to be a full time starter. Maybe just leave OKC out of it. Wiggins and 2022 first to Houston.




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03 Jan 2021 01:29:32
With the emergence of Chris Boucher and the struggles of Siakam, will the Raptors trade Pascal? What is his value now?

1.) 03 Jan 2021 13:23:57
siakam will be fine. he plays liek an allstar in the 1st half, just need better endurance. No, we aren't selling, we would be buying.

Maybe for harden yes.

2.) 03 Jan 2021 13:27:00
Possible, but I doubt it. Siakam showed flashes of playing like his pre-bubble self. Maybe he just needs time.

I'd say his value is 2 1sts, a young and emerging star, and salary filler.



02 Jan 2021 03:36:24
Chris Paul's impact being felt by far. Phoenix looking good.

1.) 02 Jan 2021 14:00:10
Lets see how they do against the Clippers tomorrow. I feel like they haven't really beat a "very good" team yet.

2.) 02 Jan 2021 20:48:23
I’d like for the to get a really good 2 guard off the bench.

3.) 02 Jan 2021 23:00:52
I think it would be acceptable if they lose to Clippers and some "very good" teams but the improvement is already evident.

4.) 03 Jan 2021 00:03:49
Just don’t like Payne/ Galloway as the answers off the bench and incase of injury. Can get ride of either Saric or Kaminksy since they have Jalen Smith.

5.) 03 Jan 2021 14:15:26
There is not a lot of "quality SG" depth in the league right now. Drafting Smith over Vassell and Halliburton was not a smart move by the Suns IMO. But I am grateful!

6.) 04 Jan 2021 03:07:30
He wasn’t a bad pick. He’ll fit in next to Ayton in the future with his defensive ability and being able to shoot. They shouldn’t have resigned Saric for 3 years and could’ve chased after a backcourt presence.

7.) 04 Jan 2021 19:12:53
Yeah Phoenix lost to LA but not a bad game either. I love the fight back.



31 Dec 2020 01:12:31
How is the winner of MIP being judged?

1.) 31 Dec 2020 15:19:05
That’s always a bit of a mystery. It’s probably the most random of criteria from voter to voter.

2.) 31 Dec 2020 16:24:08
Sportswriters in th US and Brazil. "Brazil", crazy huh!



22 Dec 2020 06:18:55
How do you value Gobert now? Is he worth that money?

1.) 22 Dec 2020 15:44:10
Absolutely. I know a lot of people don’t value him on this site, but he was top 10 in win shares last season. He’s a two time DPOY. 3 time all NBA. And Utah has been top 6 in the west the last 5 years.

He’s a star, and stars in the NBA get the max.

2.) 22 Dec 2020 16:59:02
I wouldn’t pay a max for just a defensive center imo. But they won’t lure in any max players either so it doesn’t make a difference.



12 Dec 2020 08:21:35
Cousins and Wall looks good in their preseason opener. Early too tell, but if they can stay healthy throughout the season and Harden stays, what are their chances in winning a title?




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27 Jan 2021 07:57:28
Tell how much younger does Atlanta get here? WAS will still suck after this. Maybe, ATL should target Beal instead and give WAS some rebuilding aseets.



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27 Jan 2021 05:00:58
But you think of the present. If you want to win, you bet on established stars and think about what ifs in the future. Lakers gave up a lot for Davis not thinking what if Ingram grows into a Davis, Nets clean the house for Harden because they want to win. Denver have the assets to go for a star and keep a competitive line up so if there's a chance, they should consider it.



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26 Jan 2021 20:32:24
Isn't that a good problem to have Fred? Beal is a stud.



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26 Jan 2021 19:17:32
We don't care who you want or not.



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26 Jan 2021 19:09:25
MD you are more terrible than any of the trades we make here. I don't know what kind of thinking do you have to disrespect anyone here. It's kinda annoying.




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ATL can actually beat that team in some games



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I'll put Vucevic higher, maybe around number 9



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I'd say Markieff to at least top 15



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Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Lillard, Irving, Lowry, Rose, Conley, Lawson, Bledsoe, Kemba, Teague, Parker, Rondo, Holiday, Rubio, Jennings, Knight, Williams, Mcw, Collison, Hill, Beverley, Burke, Lin, Calderon, Chalmers, Smart, Payton



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Jimmy Butler all over Klay Thompson, Anthony Davis all over Curry as long as Pelicans could make playoffs (doubt)