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13 Nov 2020 12:34:37
Minnesota-Detroit

Detroit gets no 1 pick and James Johnson
Minnesota gets no 7 pick, Sekou Doumbouya, Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk, and Detroits 2021 1st round pick (top 3 protected, unprotected in 2022).

carl006

1.) 13 Nov 2020 13:26:33
I think there are two tiers before you get to 7 (1-3, 4-6), so it should take something significant to get to the #1 spot. In this trade, DET a gives up something significant - maybe too much.

I think this comes down to what a GM thinks of Ball, of what he will become, and what it would mean to a franchise over the next four years for putting butts in the seats. I personally wouldn’t give this much if I was DET, but I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility. Maybe MIN throws something back, like Spellman, Okogie, or #33.


2.) 13 Nov 2020 13:41:34
Rumors say that Detroit is seriously hooked on drafting on Patrick Williams. No reason to trade up.


3.) 13 Nov 2020 20:43:19
This seems reasonable for both teams from a value perspective. I’m sure the Wolves would be happy including Spellman if the Pistons wanted him, but no way they include Okogie or #33.

What I don’t understand is why the Pistons would do this strategically. They don’t really have anything to build their future right now. Getting the #1 would give them one corner stone, but losing next year’s #1 would mean they would have to wait two years to add a second. Trading Blake or Rose would bring some value, but I don’t see a team giving up a 1st given their age, injury history and Blake’s contract. I could be wrong. None of their young players have really proven they will be starters on a good team at this point.

I really think they need to embrace the suck for a few years. I know how little fun that is. I’m a Wolves fan. I just think it is where the Pistons are right now.


4.) 14 Nov 2020 13:23:28
The Pistons were initially linked to loving LaMelo Ball, and they went and watched him work out a few days ago. I think Ball would help their attendance (when we get fans back in the stands), with flashy plays between the mistakes. Derrick Rose, the ex-young superstar, would be an ideal mentor for Ball, at least until he gets dealt before the trade deadline

And I have no worries that DET will lose games and get a high lottery pick when they give Ball the rock. Rookies are almost always bad, and I think Ball could be extremely bad his first year or two.


 

 

11 Nov 2020 16:12:15
Atlanta-Minnesota-New Orleans

New Orleans gets no 1 pick
Atlanta gets Holiday and pick 13
Minnesota gets Hunter, Huerter, and pick 6

carl006

1.) 11 Nov 2020 16:49:54
Value seems fair.


2.) 11 Nov 2020 17:08:46
I really like, each lineup would look really good

Russell/ Culver/ Hunter/ Okongwu/ Towns

Young/ Holiday/ Reddish/ Collins/ Capela

Ball/ Edwards or Ball/ Ingram/ Zion/ Hayes.


3.) 11 Nov 2020 18:52:39
overpay for Hawks. 6th heurter Hunter for Beal or Booker not Holiday.


4.) 11 Nov 2020 19:14:53
Shizzee, I think both the Suns and the Wizards turn down that offer. The draft picks in this draft do not hold as much value as past drafts because the players are not as highly regarded and the process is handicapped by the unique rules in place this year.


5.) 12 Nov 2020 01:33:46
6th. Huerter and Hunter does not get Beal or Booker


 

 

06 Nov 2020 17:26:18
rumor is Detroit wants to move up to draft Ball. Here is an idea.

Detroit gets 1st pick and James Johnson
Minnesota gets 7th pick, Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk, and Detroit's 2021 1st round pick top 3 protected, unprotected in 2022.

Detroit gets the no 1 pick and can take Ball.

Minnesota saves some money and gets a wing shooter, in case they don't retain Beasley. They can then take player like Hayes or Haliburton at 7. Get's a 2021 1st with same protection as their own.

carl006

1.) 06 Nov 2020 17:54:03
I don't get it, why does Minny need another PG?


2.) 06 Nov 2020 18:28:08
Darry_Doza - Wolves need an upgrade at backup PG and I think both Hayes and Haliburton can play with Russell. They should take the BPA at 7. I just think Hayes and Haliburton could be the BPA at that point.


3.) 06 Nov 2020 21:20:46
Oh, I see.


 

 

03 Nov 2020 12:49:54
Minnesota-Philadelphia trade idea

Minnesota gets Ben Simmons and pick 21.

Philadelphia gets James Johnson, Jarrett Culver, Jake Layman, picks 1 and 17, and Minnesota's 2023 1st round pick.

carl006

1.) 03 Nov 2020 14:50:16
Simmons is not being traded for future firsts


 

 

30 Oct 2020 11:28:40
4 team trade:

Phoenix gets D'Angelo Russell
Chicago gets 1st pick and James Johnson
Houston gets Cristiano Felicio, Frank Kaminsky, and 17th pick
Minnesota gets Ricky Rubio, Cameron Johnson, Robert Covington, and 4th and 10th picks

Why?
Phoenix adds Russell to his friend Booker. They two of them can be a dominate backcourt duo with Ayton in the paint.
Chicago moves up to 1st pick to draft Ball.
Houston adds some size and gets a draft pick to add some young talent.
Minnesota brings back Rubio, LaVine, and Covington, who all seem to get along with Towns. Rubio and Covington bring needed defense, and LaVine adds scoring and shooting.

carl006

1.) 30 Oct 2020 11:59:43
I don’t think the 4th pick and Felicio gets you 1st pick.


2.) 30 Oct 2020 12:09:56
NBA16 - and Zach LaVine. Damn. I forgot to put him in the original trade but included him in the reasons.


3.) 30 Oct 2020 14:28:37
LaVine is to much to move up in a bad class.


 

 

 

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18 Dec 2019 14:22:02
Holiday to Minnesota

Teague, Culver, future unprotected 1st round pick, and 2 future 2nd round picks to New Orleans.

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01 Jul 2018 16:30:41
Now that Minnesota has re-signed Rose, I think they should do the same with Bjelica.

And as much as I would like for them to move Wiggins, I just don't see it happening.

One free agent I would like them to bring in is James Ennis. More of a 3 who can also play small ball 4, would be a nice addition for the Wolves.

Drafting Okogie and KBD, re-signing Rose and Bjelica, and bringing in Ennis would go a long way to improving Minnesota's bench.

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30 Apr 2018 15:20:57
What do you think is a realistic trade for Andrew Wiggins? I know he probably has some value, given his age and potential upside that is still there. But his contract and lack of improvement have hurt him. But he has proven that he can be a lead scorer and sometimes plays good defense.

A few teams that he could be traded to:

Miami, but only as part of a complex three or more team trade
Charlotte, maybe in a swap for Batum, since they have equally bad contracts, but Charlotte would have to offer Minnesota something because of Batum's injury concern.
New York, they are always looking for a star type player, and Wiggins, even with his issues, is close to a star level player.
Brooklyn, would give them a ready made lead scorer and young talent, since they have not had their top pick for 3 years and have missed out on a lot of top level young talent
Orlando, both Wiggins and Orlando might need a fresh start
Sacramento, they could use a go to scorer and Wiggins can be that


What do you think?

carl006

1.) 30 Apr 2018 15:51:37
I think it might be hard for Minnesota to get equal value back for him, but teams that could make some sense imo are Detroit, Miami, New Orleans, Indy, and Portland.

Detroit could offer Griffin or find a 3 way trade for Drummond.
Miami could offer something like Winslow, Richardson and Olynyk.
New Orleans could offer Hill, Mirotic and maybe some combination of picks and younger players.
Indy could offer some cap savings, picks and role players.
Portland could offer McCollum, but would probably need more back than just Wiggins.


2.) 01 May 2018 00:55:40
How about just hold on to him and fire thibedou then trade jimmy for a 3 point shooter and a pick cause jimmy is not staying in Minnesota and if he does that team is a first round exit every time but if you trade Wiggins what incentive does kat have to stay. butler for Mccollum something along that.


 

 

17 May 2017 14:37:00
If Minnesota wanted to trade Wiggins, how high of a pick to you think they could get in this years draft?

carl006

1.) 17 May 2017 14:46:44
1st overall plus more.


2.) 17 May 2017 17:23:54
Um. no rkenne. just no.

Wiggins is starting to look like far less than what people made him out to be. The problem is, while he is a pretty solid scorer, at this point, that appears to be it. He is actually a negative on the defensive end. He doesn't rebound particularly well and he isn't much of a passer.

And he is already completed his third year. I don't know how much more complete of a player he will become. If he was in this draft and you knew this is where he would be after year 3, I see him going 3-7.

Absolutely not worth the 1st overall and more. Just stop.


3.) 17 May 2017 22:56:47
Wiggins hasn't been and doesn't project to be the heir to Lebron like some projected him to be coming out of Kansas and has been considerably worse on the defensive end than many thought but dude is still only 22 and one of the top prospects in the league. He has been extremely healthy (playing in all but one game in his first 3 years) and has scored over 20 ppg his past two seasons. He also made a big jump this past season improving his 3pt % from 30% to a respectable 35.6%. Issue is he doesn't do much else besides scoring with only 4 double doubles in his entire career.

I see no reason why Twolves would want to trade Wiggins for a pick in this years draft but for point of reference Jackson has been heavily compared to him and many regard him as 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the draft. You have to factor in the unknown factor (Jackson could be better than expected or much worse than expected) and the contract situation as well as the adjustment period and age in the value. If Wiggins was in this draft I think he'd be minimally #4 pick and maybe as high as #2 behind Fultz due to the increasing importance of point guards and shooters in today's game.

However, for it to make sense for Twolves to trade him they'd want #1 plus more since Twolves already have a promising team and with KAT they don't need Wiggins to be the next Lebron for them to be successful. There is always the risk that whomever they trade him for is not as good (Wiggins has been pretty darn good thus far) or worst a complete bust so they'd have to be compensated for that.

I'm not sure Celtics would be willing to do that (although maybe they would since Wiggins could help them to win right now and still keep the future bright while Fultz it remains to be seen if he can have an immediate impact) .


 

 

13 Apr 2017 15:45:04
Timberwolves off season.

Pek takes a medical retirement so his salary doesn't count for next year.
Waive Jordan Hill and his non guaranteed contract for next year.
Let Rush, Muhammad, Payne, and Casspi leave via free agency.

Trade Andrew Wiggins, Cole Aldrich, and no 6 (or 7) pick to Chicago for Jimmy Butler and 15 (or 16) pick.

Sign Serge Ibaka to a max deal and Andre Roberson to a deal.

Rubio/ Jones
LaVine/ Dunn
Butler/ Roberson
Ibaka/ Bjelica
Towns/ Deing.

carl006

1.) 13 Apr 2017 16:46:12
The rest of the core fits wiggins time line. His ceiling is probably higher than Butler's. I'm not sure if they trade Wiggins for Butler straight up let alone adding the pick.


2.) 14 Apr 2017 01:14:13
Trading Wiggins for Butler could make some sense but I wouldn't give up Twolves pick too (I don't think Bulls pick justifies it since big drop-off in talent after 11 imo) . I'd swap LaVine in for Wiggins and potentially do this trade. I believe Bulls wanted LaVine and pick that end up as Dunn for Butler last summer so maybe it could work. Losing LaVine's shooting will hurt a lot tho especially with Rubio and Dunn both poor 3pt shooters although Wiggins improved to a respectable 36% this season. I could see Thibs however pushing hard to get his man Butler back.

If I'm Twolves I'd probably just stick with what they have especially when Issac or worst case Markkanen will be available with their lotto pick. Issac would be a scary pf on the team with his versatility and ability to stretch the floor and play defense.


 

 

 

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25 Nov 2020 15:00:36
Why would the Heat trade Herro for that?

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19 Nov 2020 13:26:30
James Johnson is likely going to OKC in the Ricky Rubio trade.

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11 Nov 2020 13:38:59
Don't like this for Minnesota. They trade the guy they drafted 6th overall last year and the 17th pick to get a guy who will be a FA next summer and a PG (who is very popular in Minnesota) who may or may not be able to play with their current PG.

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10 Nov 2020 21:56:48
And how does Minnesota fit 30+ million into their already tight cap?

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08 Nov 2020 19:50:13
Can't see the Pavers doing this.

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