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23 Jun 2022 18:17:51
Looks like Orlando is trading pick 35 to the Lakers for cash and a 2028 2nd round pick.

That is beyond bad for Orlando.


1.) 23 Jun 2022 18:39:02
Great move for Lakers to add a young rotational piece.

2.) 23 Jun 2022 19:48:12
Today's number 1 pick of Orlando will someday go to the Lakers too. Shaq? Dwight?



23 Jun 2022 14:25:57
If Kyrie opts out and Brooklyn doesn't want him back.

Brooklyn gets Russell
Minnesota gets Murray
Spurs get Simmons and 2 future 1st round picks from Minnesota

Brooklyn gets a PG who can shoot and create for others, while getting out from Simmons' huge contract

Minnesota gets a PG who fits better with Edwards

San Antonio takes a risk on a star player who has had issues and 2 future 1st round picks.


1.) 23 Jun 2022 15:16:48
I would love this for Minny, but i can't see the spurs do this.



09 Jun 2022 17:32:44
Philadelphia-Minnesota trade

Philly gets Malik Beasley and picks 48 and 50 in the draft

Minnesota gets Danny Green, Furkan Korkmaz, and pick 23 in the draft

Philly adds a really good shoot to help space for floor for Embiid and Harden. The 2nd round picks can fill out the roster.

Minnesota would waive Green to create some cap space to go after a FA like Coffey or Jones. Minnesota also gets another first round pick to be able to add more young talent or make additional trades.


1.) 09 Jun 2022 20:59:48
Danny Green's salary must be guaranteed before he can be traded. not going to clear cap space that way.

2.) 09 Jun 2022 22:58:14
windrapsfan - you don't have to guaranteed on NG contract to trade him, but you do have to pick up the option on a TO to trade him.

However, it looks like the NBA changed the rules. It seems now that NGC only count for not much is guaranteed (for Danny Green, that would be 0) for the trading team, but the receiving team it would count full for trade purposes.

For example, if Philly trades Danny Green, he would count for 0 dollars in getting money back, but any team trading for him, he would count his full $10 million.

At least, this is how I understand it. I think it will make trading players will non-guaranteed contracts for more difficult.

3.) 09 Jun 2022 23:05:31
Actually this trade can happen on draft day prior to the end of the season. Minny has room under the Luxury tax and would have to waive someone for the necessary roster spot.

4.) 10 Jun 2022 03:38:48
Carl, that 0 one counts for his non-guarenteed part. If he is traded beforethe end of the fiscal season (30 June? ), he would count his 2021-22 season salary. So this trade can go through as long as it is prior to the start othe 22-23 season.



07 May 2022 16:20:38
Three team trade:

Washington gets D'Angelo Russell
Detroit gets Kyle Kuzma and KCP
Minnesota gets a future 2nd round pick from Washington

Washington gets a PG to pair with Beal
Detroit gets a still young PF and a veteran shooter on an expiring contract (who can be flipped for assets)
Minnesota gets near max cap space to go after a FA PG like Brunson or Tyus Jones.


1.) 07 May 2022 16:47:28
You don't just give Dlo like that.

2.) 07 May 2022 17:20:31
I'm sure they can get at least a little more for Russell.

3.) 07 May 2022 17:21:20
Minny "salary dumping" Russell seems questionable especially considering the Free Agent class for the 2023-24 offseason.

Detroit also already has 13 players under contract + a (probably) top 4 draft pick to add to the roster. Not convinced taking on KCP + Kuzma is best use of their cap space. They would probably do better making their own max offer on better talent like Bridges or Ayton.

4.) 07 May 2022 21:32:27
so you rather have a 2nd round pick for Russell then having an expiring contract in Westbrook?

5.) 08 May 2022 00:49:14
This is a trade that only makes sense if they already have a commitment from someone like Brunson. You can’t give DLo away for hopes.

6.) 08 May 2022 00:56:51
Ca - yes.

7.) 08 May 2022 02:51:55
Just because the wolves are potentially going to look at moving dlo, doesn’t mean they have to this off season. They can definitely do better than a 2nd, of which they already have 3 this year. If they can’t find a better deal over the summer, they can hold out until the trade deadline.

8.) 09 May 2022 00:01:09
Ca - dlo is already an expiring contract next season. I’d much rather just hold on to him than bring on Westbrook.



06 May 2022 12:39:28
How about this trade?

Minnesota gets Hardaway and Brunson in a S&T.

Dallas gets Russell, Beasley, and a future 1st round pick from Minnesota.

Dallas saves future money by getting players on expiring deals (Beasley has a team option for 23-24). Russell can play next to Doncic and share both the scoring and ballhandling.

Minnesota gets a PG who if more of a pass first player at the expense of taking on a larger contract in Hardaway.


1.) 06 May 2022 13:53:00
Seems like an overpayment for Brunson to me.

2.) 06 May 2022 15:46:54
Russell alone has more value than that Mavs package.

3.) 07 May 2022 00:54:40
I agree with others this is an overpayment for Brunson. Until Hardaway can prove he can play post injury, that contract is a negative asset.




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18 Dec 2019 14:22:02
Holiday to Minnesota

Teague, Culver, future unprotected 1st round pick, and 2 future 2nd round picks to New Orleans.




01 Jul 2018 16:30:41
Now that Minnesota has re-signed Rose, I think they should do the same with Bjelica.

And as much as I would like for them to move Wiggins, I just don't see it happening.

One free agent I would like them to bring in is James Ennis. More of a 3 who can also play small ball 4, would be a nice addition for the Wolves.

Drafting Okogie and KBD, re-signing Rose and Bjelica, and bringing in Ennis would go a long way to improving Minnesota's bench.




30 Apr 2018 15:20:57
What do you think is a realistic trade for Andrew Wiggins? I know he probably has some value, given his age and potential upside that is still there. But his contract and lack of improvement have hurt him. But he has proven that he can be a lead scorer and sometimes plays good defense.

A few teams that he could be traded to:

Miami, but only as part of a complex three or more team trade
Charlotte, maybe in a swap for Batum, since they have equally bad contracts, but Charlotte would have to offer Minnesota something because of Batum's injury concern.
New York, they are always looking for a star type player, and Wiggins, even with his issues, is close to a star level player.
Brooklyn, would give them a ready made lead scorer and young talent, since they have not had their top pick for 3 years and have missed out on a lot of top level young talent
Orlando, both Wiggins and Orlando might need a fresh start
Sacramento, they could use a go to scorer and Wiggins can be that

What do you think?


1.) 30 Apr 2018 15:51:37
I think it might be hard for Minnesota to get equal value back for him, but teams that could make some sense imo are Detroit, Miami, New Orleans, Indy, and Portland.

Detroit could offer Griffin or find a 3 way trade for Drummond.
Miami could offer something like Winslow, Richardson and Olynyk.
New Orleans could offer Hill, Mirotic and maybe some combination of picks and younger players.
Indy could offer some cap savings, picks and role players.
Portland could offer McCollum, but would probably need more back than just Wiggins.

2.) 01 May 2018 00:55:40
How about just hold on to him and fire thibedou then trade jimmy for a 3 point shooter and a pick cause jimmy is not staying in Minnesota and if he does that team is a first round exit every time but if you trade Wiggins what incentive does kat have to stay. butler for Mccollum something along that.



17 May 2017 14:37:00
If Minnesota wanted to trade Wiggins, how high of a pick to you think they could get in this years draft?


1.) 17 May 2017 14:46:44
1st overall plus more.

2.) 17 May 2017 17:23:54
Um. no rkenne. just no.

Wiggins is starting to look like far less than what people made him out to be. The problem is, while he is a pretty solid scorer, at this point, that appears to be it. He is actually a negative on the defensive end. He doesn't rebound particularly well and he isn't much of a passer.

And he is already completed his third year. I don't know how much more complete of a player he will become. If he was in this draft and you knew this is where he would be after year 3, I see him going 3-7.

Absolutely not worth the 1st overall and more. Just stop.

3.) 17 May 2017 22:56:47
Wiggins hasn't been and doesn't project to be the heir to Lebron like some projected him to be coming out of Kansas and has been considerably worse on the defensive end than many thought but dude is still only 22 and one of the top prospects in the league. He has been extremely healthy (playing in all but one game in his first 3 years) and has scored over 20 ppg his past two seasons. He also made a big jump this past season improving his 3pt % from 30% to a respectable 35.6%. Issue is he doesn't do much else besides scoring with only 4 double doubles in his entire career.

I see no reason why Twolves would want to trade Wiggins for a pick in this years draft but for point of reference Jackson has been heavily compared to him and many regard him as 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the draft. You have to factor in the unknown factor (Jackson could be better than expected or much worse than expected) and the contract situation as well as the adjustment period and age in the value. If Wiggins was in this draft I think he'd be minimally #4 pick and maybe as high as #2 behind Fultz due to the increasing importance of point guards and shooters in today's game.

However, for it to make sense for Twolves to trade him they'd want #1 plus more since Twolves already have a promising team and with KAT they don't need Wiggins to be the next Lebron for them to be successful. There is always the risk that whomever they trade him for is not as good (Wiggins has been pretty darn good thus far) or worst a complete bust so they'd have to be compensated for that.

I'm not sure Celtics would be willing to do that (although maybe they would since Wiggins could help them to win right now and still keep the future bright while Fultz it remains to be seen if he can have an immediate impact) .



13 Apr 2017 15:45:04
Timberwolves off season.

Pek takes a medical retirement so his salary doesn't count for next year.
Waive Jordan Hill and his non guaranteed contract for next year.
Let Rush, Muhammad, Payne, and Casspi leave via free agency.

Trade Andrew Wiggins, Cole Aldrich, and no 6 (or 7) pick to Chicago for Jimmy Butler and 15 (or 16) pick.

Sign Serge Ibaka to a max deal and Andre Roberson to a deal.

Rubio/ Jones
LaVine/ Dunn
Butler/ Roberson
Ibaka/ Bjelica
Towns/ Deing.


1.) 13 Apr 2017 16:46:12
The rest of the core fits wiggins time line. His ceiling is probably higher than Butler's. I'm not sure if they trade Wiggins for Butler straight up let alone adding the pick.

2.) 14 Apr 2017 01:14:13
Trading Wiggins for Butler could make some sense but I wouldn't give up Twolves pick too (I don't think Bulls pick justifies it since big drop-off in talent after 11 imo) . I'd swap LaVine in for Wiggins and potentially do this trade. I believe Bulls wanted LaVine and pick that end up as Dunn for Butler last summer so maybe it could work. Losing LaVine's shooting will hurt a lot tho especially with Rubio and Dunn both poor 3pt shooters although Wiggins improved to a respectable 36% this season. I could see Thibs however pushing hard to get his man Butler back.

If I'm Twolves I'd probably just stick with what they have especially when Issac or worst case Markkanen will be available with their lotto pick. Issac would be a scary pf on the team with his versatility and ability to stretch the floor and play defense.




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07 Oct 2022 20:53:55
I think I would rather have Duarte than Poole.

I think Poole is more the product of the Golden State system (like how much Andrew Wiggins improved) .




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03 Oct 2022 19:25:44
And Dallas does this why?




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30 Jul 2022 16:40:16
Minnesota says no.




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15 Jul 2022 19:08:49
No way Indiana should do this. Westbrook is negative value and it would take the Lakers giving up at least 1 pick to move him.

So the Lakers are basically giving up 1 1st round pick in 5 years to get 3 quality rotation players.




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12 Jul 2022 22:02:18
And Utah does this why?





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