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23 Jan 2020 21:07:50
Mavs get Covington
Wolves get Delon Wright, Dorlan Finney-Smith, and Warriors 2020 2nd round pick.

carl006

1.) 23 Jan 2020 21:42:28
Not enough.


2.) 24 Jan 2020 12:38:40
What are you expecting to get for Covington?


3.) 25 Jan 2020 02:22:28
A first and decent young guy matching contracts. Covington is cheap and fits any team by shooting and playing great defense. He is today’s Iggy.


 

 

01 Jan 2020 15:52:02
Covington trade ideas.

To Milwaukee for Ersan Ilyasova, Donte DiVincenzo, Indiana's 2020 1st, and future 2nd round pick

To Indiana for Doug McDermott, Aaron Holiday, and future 2nd round pick

To LA Clippers for Maurice Harmless, Landry Shamet, and future draft picks

To Dallas for Courtney Lee, Jalen Brunson, Golden States 2020 2nd, and next 1st Dallas can trade.

carl006

1.) 01 Jan 2020 19:06:51
Covington was

#4 in the NBA in DRPM in 2016-17
#3 in 18-19 (and first team All Defense)
#12 last year, in only 35 games.
His downturn this year is probably because the Wolves force him to play out of position at PF to help Towns, instead of SF.

He doesn’t dribble or pass well, but he is a threat as a three point shooter, so he stretches the floor.

Then, he’s got three years left on a deal that pays him $12-14 mil, and he plays the hardest to fill position.

He contributes a lot, without needing the ball. I think he is more valuable than this.

I suspect an auction between contenders, because he’s the type of addition that could put a team over the top.


2.) 01 Jan 2020 21:39:20
He simply can’t be one of the 3 best players on a championship team though Shrink. He’s a GREAT role player, but he’s still a role player. You can’t give up more than a moderate young player and a first for him.


3.) 01 Jan 2020 23:39:37
I disagree strongly. People think that three best players should be three scorers. Lakers are doing just fine with two stars. You want an elite third guy that makes the top two stars better,


4.) 02 Jan 2020 01:50:42
I like covington over Towns and Wiggens. Bc of defense.


 

 

31 Dec 2019 15:57:17
Minnesota-Dallas

Dallas gets Covington and Teague

Minnesota gets Brunson, Lee, Hardaway, Golden State's 2020 2nd, a future 2nd from Dallas, and the next 1st round pick Dallas can trade.

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27 Dec 2019 16:31:26
Because I am bored and looking for an interesting trade:

Knicks get Towns and Russell
Warriors get Covington, Randle, and one of the Dallas picks
Wolves get Spellman, Smailagic, Portis, Barrett, Ntilikina (or Smith Jr), Robinson, the other Dallas pick, and the Knicks 2020, 2022, and 2024 1st round picks.

carl006

1.) 27 Dec 2019 17:14:55
I think the warriors would want more. I also think that Randle is a very anti-Warriors type player. I think he’s a horrible fit.


2.) 27 Dec 2019 17:39:54
Randle can't defend any player. Covington good role player that's it. Dallas pick will be very late so no from gsw. Ny have to give all picks to get Towns and that's not enough.


3.) 27 Dec 2019 18:52:26
I don't want no part of Russell. Knicks and Wolves trade directly if that means dump Wiggens somewhere I will. I am convinced that if Knicks can Land Towns, They can sign Anthony Davis if the Lakers don't make it to the finals.


 

 

19 Dec 2019 15:02:00
Three team deal

Cleveland gets Wiggins
New Orleans gets Teague, Culver, and 1st round pick from Minnesota
Minnesota gets Holiday and Love.

carl006

1.) 19 Dec 2019 15:26:55
It’s definitely interesting.


2.) 19 Dec 2019 15:49:10
Kind of funny but I see Wiggins fitting in better in NOLA (with Holiday's departure) than Cleveland.


3.) 19 Dec 2019 16:48:32
Friedman- Wiggins and Ingram are the same player.


4.) 19 Dec 2019 17:50:07
Wiggins and Ingram are similar players, but having an abundance of above average wings is a key to success in the modern NBA. Those two (if they continue to play at this improved level) would be pretty good together.

Add Zion as a superstar, Hayes as an elite defender, and get PG that is a sharpshooter and that team could be really good.


5.) 19 Dec 2019 21:24:29
Ingram and Wiggins can shoot a lot but not efficient and don’t guard well. Add lonzo zion and Hayes they are fun to watch but lose 50 games a season.


6.) 19 Dec 2019 21:42:33
Wiggins more effective as a ball handler while Cleveland has Sexton and Garland.


 

 

 

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18 Dec 2019 14:22:02
Holiday to Minnesota

Teague, Culver, future unprotected 1st round pick, and 2 future 2nd round picks to New Orleans.

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01 Jul 2018 16:30:41
Now that Minnesota has re-signed Rose, I think they should do the same with Bjelica.

And as much as I would like for them to move Wiggins, I just don't see it happening.

One free agent I would like them to bring in is James Ennis. More of a 3 who can also play small ball 4, would be a nice addition for the Wolves.

Drafting Okogie and KBD, re-signing Rose and Bjelica, and bringing in Ennis would go a long way to improving Minnesota's bench.

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30 Apr 2018 15:20:57
What do you think is a realistic trade for Andrew Wiggins? I know he probably has some value, given his age and potential upside that is still there. But his contract and lack of improvement have hurt him. But he has proven that he can be a lead scorer and sometimes plays good defense.

A few teams that he could be traded to:

Miami, but only as part of a complex three or more team trade
Charlotte, maybe in a swap for Batum, since they have equally bad contracts, but Charlotte would have to offer Minnesota something because of Batum's injury concern.
New York, they are always looking for a star type player, and Wiggins, even with his issues, is close to a star level player.
Brooklyn, would give them a ready made lead scorer and young talent, since they have not had their top pick for 3 years and have missed out on a lot of top level young talent
Orlando, both Wiggins and Orlando might need a fresh start
Sacramento, they could use a go to scorer and Wiggins can be that


What do you think?

carl006

1.) 30 Apr 2018 15:51:37
I think it might be hard for Minnesota to get equal value back for him, but teams that could make some sense imo are Detroit, Miami, New Orleans, Indy, and Portland.

Detroit could offer Griffin or find a 3 way trade for Drummond.
Miami could offer something like Winslow, Richardson and Olynyk.
New Orleans could offer Hill, Mirotic and maybe some combination of picks and younger players.
Indy could offer some cap savings, picks and role players.
Portland could offer McCollum, but would probably need more back than just Wiggins.


2.) 01 May 2018 00:55:40
How about just hold on to him and fire thibedou then trade jimmy for a 3 point shooter and a pick cause jimmy is not staying in Minnesota and if he does that team is a first round exit every time but if you trade Wiggins what incentive does kat have to stay. butler for Mccollum something along that.


 

 

17 May 2017 14:37:00
If Minnesota wanted to trade Wiggins, how high of a pick to you think they could get in this years draft?

carl006

1.) 17 May 2017 14:46:44
1st overall plus more.


2.) 17 May 2017 17:23:54
Um. no rkenne. just no.

Wiggins is starting to look like far less than what people made him out to be. The problem is, while he is a pretty solid scorer, at this point, that appears to be it. He is actually a negative on the defensive end. He doesn't rebound particularly well and he isn't much of a passer.

And he is already completed his third year. I don't know how much more complete of a player he will become. If he was in this draft and you knew this is where he would be after year 3, I see him going 3-7.

Absolutely not worth the 1st overall and more. Just stop.


3.) 17 May 2017 22:56:47
Wiggins hasn't been and doesn't project to be the heir to Lebron like some projected him to be coming out of Kansas and has been considerably worse on the defensive end than many thought but dude is still only 22 and one of the top prospects in the league. He has been extremely healthy (playing in all but one game in his first 3 years) and has scored over 20 ppg his past two seasons. He also made a big jump this past season improving his 3pt % from 30% to a respectable 35.6%. Issue is he doesn't do much else besides scoring with only 4 double doubles in his entire career.

I see no reason why Twolves would want to trade Wiggins for a pick in this years draft but for point of reference Jackson has been heavily compared to him and many regard him as 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the draft. You have to factor in the unknown factor (Jackson could be better than expected or much worse than expected) and the contract situation as well as the adjustment period and age in the value. If Wiggins was in this draft I think he'd be minimally #4 pick and maybe as high as #2 behind Fultz due to the increasing importance of point guards and shooters in today's game.

However, for it to make sense for Twolves to trade him they'd want #1 plus more since Twolves already have a promising team and with KAT they don't need Wiggins to be the next Lebron for them to be successful. There is always the risk that whomever they trade him for is not as good (Wiggins has been pretty darn good thus far) or worst a complete bust so they'd have to be compensated for that.

I'm not sure Celtics would be willing to do that (although maybe they would since Wiggins could help them to win right now and still keep the future bright while Fultz it remains to be seen if he can have an immediate impact) .


 

 

13 Apr 2017 15:45:04
Timberwolves off season.

Pek takes a medical retirement so his salary doesn't count for next year.
Waive Jordan Hill and his non guaranteed contract for next year.
Let Rush, Muhammad, Payne, and Casspi leave via free agency.

Trade Andrew Wiggins, Cole Aldrich, and no 6 (or 7) pick to Chicago for Jimmy Butler and 15 (or 16) pick.

Sign Serge Ibaka to a max deal and Andre Roberson to a deal.

Rubio/ Jones
LaVine/ Dunn
Butler/ Roberson
Ibaka/ Bjelica
Towns/ Deing.

carl006

1.) 13 Apr 2017 16:46:12
The rest of the core fits wiggins time line. His ceiling is probably higher than Butler's. I'm not sure if they trade Wiggins for Butler straight up let alone adding the pick.


2.) 14 Apr 2017 01:14:13
Trading Wiggins for Butler could make some sense but I wouldn't give up Twolves pick too (I don't think Bulls pick justifies it since big drop-off in talent after 11 imo) . I'd swap LaVine in for Wiggins and potentially do this trade. I believe Bulls wanted LaVine and pick that end up as Dunn for Butler last summer so maybe it could work. Losing LaVine's shooting will hurt a lot tho especially with Rubio and Dunn both poor 3pt shooters although Wiggins improved to a respectable 36% this season. I could see Thibs however pushing hard to get his man Butler back.

If I'm Twolves I'd probably just stick with what they have especially when Issac or worst case Markkanen will be available with their lotto pick. Issac would be a scary pf on the team with his versatility and ability to stretch the floor and play defense.


 

 

 

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23 Jan 2020 19:08:17
Hornets best 2 players are PGs. Why would they want another one.

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22 Jan 2020 22:52:28
I'd do this is a heartbeat if I am Minnesota.

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16 Jan 2020 21:15:06
How about this instead.

Golden State gets Williams and Covington
Charlotte gets Wiggins
Minnesota gets Russell and MKG.

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15 Jan 2020 12:47:01
This is so bad for Minnesota it's not even funny.

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14 Jan 2020 19:41:24
This is really, really bad for Minnesota.

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