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11 Sep 2019 09:12:21
The Grizzlies get Rondo(buyout), Cousins(release), Caldwell-Pope, Horton-Tucker, and 2 2nds.

The Lakers Get Iguodala


1.) 11 Sep 2019 09:33:02
Caldwell-Pope vetoes?

2.) 11 Sep 2019 10:45:54
Right up until Rich Paul and Lebron tell him to stfu and go to Memphis.

3.) 11 Sep 2019 16:00:58
At which time he fires Rich Paul and gives Lebron the bird. And then become a cancer in the Lakers locker room so that they don't win the championship this year.

That works for me.

4.) 13 Sep 2019 23:58:20
Or they can just release him if that happens.



07 Sep 2019 12:44:23
Toronto gets Wiggins, Teague(expiring), Bates Diop, Layman, and the 20 and 22 Minnesota 1sts.

Minnesota gets Ibaka(expiring) and Lowry(expiring)


1.) 07 Sep 2019 14:20:18
2 firsts? Doubtful.

2.) 07 Sep 2019 14:27:48
MIN’s best chance at adding talent is through picks, not clearing salary to try to attract a free agent. They can’t afford to use picks to dump Wiggins awful contract.

3.) 07 Sep 2019 15:06:13
You’re not just getting rid of Wiggins. That’s a pretty competent team. It’s time to make a jump or you’re going to lose KAT in a few years.

4.) 07 Sep 2019 17:44:57
Put dieng also in the deal to create cap while giving up 2 first.

Also maybe og could be demand too to give up keita bates.

5.) 08 Sep 2019 04:08:29
rkenne - that is one year of a better team. KAT is just starting a five year contract with no option on the end. MIN needs to be a good team to convince KAT to stay in year 4, when he has leverage to ask for a trade. The last thing they should do is trade away future picks so they can be good for one single year. If that means they have to keep Wiggins, so be it. He is KAT’s buddy anyway.

6.) 08 Sep 2019 11:51:52
You open up space this summer and I don’t think Lowry is a guy that falls off a cliff at any point unless he suffers a major/ chronic injury. He’s just a smart, steady guy that is going to make the right play. Shooting, passing and knowing where to be just don’t go away. You could end up locking him down on a team friendly deal this summer. I think he and Ibaka both complement KAT really well and will only make him better. The biggest question is really Culver. I love Culver. I think he’s going to be really solid from day one and he can grow into a legitimate number 2 guy. I just don’t think sitting on your hands and hoping for some luck in the draft is a smart decision with KAT in tow.

7.) 08 Sep 2019 13:46:05
Kyle Lowry is often under-rated, but he will be 34 next season, when he reaches free agency. I agree he is a smart player, but the number of good 34 year old PG’s in NBA history is very small.

If you look at what Rosas did this summer, he worked diligently to add players that align with KAT’s age. He added guys like Jake Layman, Noah Vonleh and Jordan Bell, signed three young guys, (Culver, Naz Reid, Jaylen Nowell), and cast off Taj Gibson, Bayless, Tolliver, and Dereck Rose. MIN is a far shallower team right now, and is spending the season riding a year off bad contracts, and looking for upside plays. I don’t think they can sudden, y become win now - they need to wait at least one year and maybe two, and hope to develop more talent to surround Towns.

8.) 10 Sep 2019 16:27:34
Raptors aren't trading Lowry and why would they. the only trades I see that makes sense would be to trade Ibaka and or Gasol. but not both. and keep Lowry he's off the books and will probably sign else where or back with TO for a lot cheaper.

Raptors should try to being back derozan now that they have a few good defensive Forwards and Gasol they'll be much better and another favorite.



05 Sep 2019 15:53:52
The Cavs get Theis, Ojeleye, and House

The Celtics get Capela

The Rockets get Brown, Wanamaker , Henson and a 2nd from the Cavs.


1.) 05 Sep 2019 16:48:38
Not sure this works for any of the teams involved.



01 Sep 2019 13:25:22
Indy gets Brown

Boston gets Sabonis.


1.) 01 Sep 2019 15:50:04
Sabonis isn't bad, but he spit the bit in the playoffs vs. Boston last year. Not sure he's a huge upgrade over the B-minus group the Celtics have at the 5 right now.

2.) 01 Sep 2019 16:24:20
Sabonis is a huge upgrade over anyone the Celtics currently have. He is about average a double double this year.

3.) 01 Sep 2019 16:25:32
If you want to letter grade people, Kanter is a C-. He passes, but juuuuuuust barely. Sabonis is probably a solid B or B-. Definitely an upgrade.

I love this trade for Boston. Seems really good for Indy too. Makes a lot of sense.

4.) 01 Sep 2019 17:00:30
Lmao. Their current b minus group.

5.) 01 Sep 2019 18:48:03
Indy has to give up more coming from a Lakers fan.

6.) 01 Sep 2019 23:22:24
I’d argue that Sabonis was better than Brown.

7.) 02 Sep 2019 00:39:59
I’d argue that if people argue who’s better, they’re probably about the same.



27 Aug 2019 13:45:24
Orlando gets Hayward, the Boston 20 and the Boston 22 lottery protected

The Celtics get Vucevic.


1.) 27 Aug 2019 16:14:23
In a vacuum, i like it. But, it won't happen. Why would Orlando resign Vuc, just to trade him? They wouldn't. Plus, i'd Boston wanted to do this, they would have tried a sign and trade.

2.) 27 Aug 2019 17:23:34
Orlando signs Vuc just to trade him because:

1. It's better than letting him walk for nothing.
2. They want to make sure their young guys are ready before moving past Vuc.




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15 Aug 2019 14:25:04
Let's say that the Stepien rule doesn't exist, you are an expansion team that has no one on the roster, the Bucks want to trade Giannis for nothing but picks and someone from the future told you that if your team trades for Giannis, he'll stay there for his entire career. How many consecutive picks would you be willing to give up for him?


1.) 15 Aug 2019 16:36:00
Will he give hometown discounts as well? Or are teams paying 40 mil a year for every year?

2.) 15 Aug 2019 17:13:40
7? You give up a lot to get him. He just lead a team of nice vets to the best record in the NBA without another true star.

Hometown discount doesn't matter, he's 100% worth the supermax and you give it to him happily.

3.) 15 Aug 2019 23:39:33
Hometown discounts means more picks I am willing to give up. Probably 3-4 if I am paying supermax and I can get the shooters around him.

Bet thd Bucks take a step back this year?

4.) 16 Aug 2019 14:33:46
Step back meaning the #1 seed in the east, but not the best record in the NBA?

Who in the east is passing them? I have no faith in Phili. I have no faith in Boston. Indy would have a chance if Oladipo was going to be healthy to start the season, but he's not. Toronto isn't good enough (unless Siakim becomes a top 10 player) .

5.) 16 Aug 2019 14:34:28
So you wouldn't give up more for Giannis than teams already have in real life for George or Davis? To me, he's without a doubt better than both.

6.) 16 Aug 2019 18:49:59
I am not sure I would give you better than Anthony Davis. Healthier? Definitely. But skill-wise, Giannis lack of shooting cancels any youthful athletic advantage Giannis has in the transition game. However, in a halfcourt game, AD's versitility is greater. If AD were younger and could play 82 games a season, they would be pretty equal.

7.) 16 Aug 2019 23:18:43
I’d take Giannis over Davis because of his passing an ball handling. It just gives him significantly more control over the game. Giannis was also ridiculously efficient last year on the offensive end and statistically there isn’t a huge difference in their jumpers. Teams are going to sag off both guys.

I was thinking like 8 or 9 1sts. You’re talking about a 25 year old two way monster that has no real injury history and has gotten better every year. You are probably getting your number one guy for the next ten years.

8.) 17 Aug 2019 03:15:41
The problem with giving uo all those firsts is that you only have one way of getting talent around him. Signing Free Agents and the salary cap limits how much you can add as well.

9.) 17 Aug 2019 12:09:34
You have 90 million dollars though. You could chase some restricted guys this summer, you could use your space to add picks and punt the space for a few years, you can go after veteran role players and etc. you’d have the freedom to do almost anything. What if this year/ summer, you go out and get like Hield and Otto Porter for 50 million, get some picks and competent but over payed player with the remaining money and then take some chances on cheap veterans and young retreads. Then go into next free agency with a max slot. You’d likely have a window of 10 years to go get a title.

10.) 17 Aug 2019 18:18:45
I'm taking AD. Most dominate big man in league on both ends and think lbj will take a lot of pressure off him and he stay healthy. like cousins did but cousins couldn't stay healthy. Giannis got exposed by Leonard. Plus need to shoot better.

11.) 17 Aug 2019 19:20:34
He averaged 24 6 and 15 or something in that series. His scoring was down a little bit, but he didn't lay an egg or something. He wasn’t quite as good as he normally is. He’s a 24 year old monster, who has gotten better every year.

12.) 18 Aug 2019 11:07:04
Giannis is good, but not twice as good as Davis, so not worth twice the draft picks that New Orleans got for Davis (disregarding the argument that the Lakers overpaid for Davis) .

13.) 18 Aug 2019 22:21:11
Not saying he is not talented. Just perhaps not TWICE as talented as AD since you want to give DOUBLE the amount of first rounders. And the Lakers overpaid for AD on top of it (So did OKC for PG13). So giving up 3-4 would still be saying that Giannis is better than AD.

14.) 18 Aug 2019 22:23:16
Yeah, but it wasn’t just picks in the Davis deal, one was the 4th pick and they structured the picks to where they get their best picks over the next 5 or so years. Even if you think that Ingram and Ball are only worth one 1st each, you are already up to 6 1sts without weighting the swaps or talking about the other stuff they got in the trade. I’d also argue that Ball and Ingram are worth more than just a 1st.

If I were going to break that trade down to what the value of the picks are

Ingram 2, Ball 2, the 4th 2, the two 1sts that the Pelicans can roll over 3, and the Cavs protected 2020 plus Hart is 1.

That adds up to 10 and you could probably argue more, if you really like Ball, Hart and/ or Ingram.

15.) 19 Aug 2019 01:47:14
See I don't give the players in the trade much value. To me they were just salary fillers because Lakers were just trying to ship them out to create a 3rd max slot. I might give you one first for the whole lot.



01 Aug 2019 11:44:32
Can anyone explain to me the rational behind the Knicks signing 4 pfs? I was looking at their roster and trying to make some sense out of it and I'm blanking. Not to mention that Knox is probably a 4 and Barrett should probably be playing some 4 as well.


1.) 01 Aug 2019 12:16:46
Its the Knicks understanding of positionless basketball?

Also, if 4 PFs are the only ones willing to take your money.

2.) 01 Aug 2019 14:50:09
Maybe they think they can get value out of those guys in trades? Get the most valuable players on the best value contracts and then flip them later on?

3.) 01 Aug 2019 21:21:04
Also, they're either playing Knox and Barrett at the wings, or they're completely sabotaging their youth.

I guess it could be both.



31 Jul 2019 13:08:19
Assuming everyone plays a minimum of 60 games and all playoff games, how far does this team go?

Paul/Patty Mills
Love/ Jeff Green


1.) 31 Jul 2019 13:39:55
Eastern or Westetn Confetence? First round of playoff exit?

Better question. What is the amount of luxury tax this team pays?

2.) 31 Jul 2019 14:01:55
West: miss the playoffs in the 9 or 10 spot.

East: 7-8 seed and swept in the first round.

3.) 31 Jul 2019 16:39:28
Team need Vince Carter added. finally noticed the common thread of all the players.



08 Jul 2019 15:42:20
Denver gets Grant for their 2020 1st. That seems like a steal.


1.) 08 Jul 2019 16:25:25
I like it for both. Denver is clearly win now, and making moves like it. OKC cashes in a nice role player for a future first, as a tanking team should.

This clearly send the message that Westbrook (and Gallo) are going to be moved I think.

2.) 08 Jul 2019 16:28:29
Backup/ Small ball 4 for a late 1st? I guess so. Also uses a trade exception that expires at the trade deadline. Probably a move made because of Porter Jr's injury?

3.) 08 Jul 2019 17:23:23
Thunder mainly did it to save over 30mil in luxury tax, but yea a low 1st round pick os a steal in my opinion. I feel like OKC should have gotten a 2nd out of it too.

4.) 08 Jul 2019 19:39:35
@rlc35 grant ain't all that. Be grateful someone gave you a first while saving OKC $30 mil.



01 Jul 2019 00:00:30
Utah is going to be good.





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15 Sep 2019 21:24:14
Knox is a power forward. No way do the Knicks trade him. They’re probably drooling over the thought of adding Love and Thompson though.




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15 Sep 2019 16:57:22
Until Hayward proves something, I think it would cost Boston 2 1sts.




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15 Sep 2019 16:50:51
So Dallas gets a bunch of stuff for junk and a pick 6 years for now? Brunson is decent, but doesn’t have a ton of value. His upside is like low end starter. Most of Hardaway’s value comes as an expiring contract. That package wouldn’t net you Bridges let alone Bridges and Drummond.




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11 Sep 2019 10:45:54
Right up until Rich Paul and Lebron tell him to stfu and go to Memphis.




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10 Sep 2019 17:01:56
All homer deals for Dallas.





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