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27 Jan 2022 15:57:57
76ers get James Harden

Nets get Ben Simmons, Matisse Thybulle, and a 2022 first round pick

I doubt a trade like this happens before the deadline, but I think it makes both teams better. What do you guys think of the value? Who needs more, and what do they need?


1.) 27 Jan 2022 16:57:23
because of both thybulle and simmons offensive limitations he wouldn't be what the nets are looking for in an additional asset.

2.) 27 Jan 2022 19:42:06
If this is done before the deadline, I think the Nets are getting too much. Harden is a UFA this offseason, 76ers could lose him for nothing.



26 Jan 2022 03:49:30
Heat get Ben Simmons and Danny Green

76ers get Kyle Lowry, Duncan Robinson, and a top 3 protected 2025 first round pick

It'd be risky for the Heat to breakup this team while they're at the top of the conference, but the reward could be huge. Simmons would make their defense terrifying, and he'd form a young trio with Adebayo and Herro that could make them contenders for years.

The 76ers give themselves a chance at competing this year and keep an eye on the future with a young shooter and an incoming first round pick.


1.) 26 Jan 2022 05:03:21
Herro would have to be included.

2.) 26 Jan 2022 05:25:40
Heat say no Jimmy Butler doesn’t want to play with Ben Simmons.



14 Dec 2021 01:18:00
What if Portland decides to blow it up, and Boston decides to go all-in?

Celtics get Damian Lillard and CJ McCollum

Thunder get Jaylen Brown

Trailblazers get Josh Giddey, Al Horford, Dennis Schroeder, 2 unprotected firsts from Boston, 2 first round pick swaps from Boston, the Thunder's unprotected 2024 first, and the Clippers' unprotected firsts in 2024 and 2026 from OKC.

The Celtics form a lethal big 3 in a wide open east, the Thunder get a young star to complement SGA, and the Trailblazers get a new point guard to build around in Giddey, an expiring contract in Schroeder, a valuable big whose contract expires next year in Horford, $31.3 million in cap space, and at least 5 unprotected firsts (possibly 7 with swaps).


1.) 14 Dec 2021 01:40:07
Meant to say that this trade would take $31.3 million off the books for Portland, not $31.3 million in cap space. This trade would put Portland $5.8 million under the salary cap, whereas they're currently $1.3 million into the luxury tax ($25.5 million over the salary cap) .

2.) 14 Dec 2021 01:40:40
Take McCollum off the deal and lessen the burden for Boston. Then maybe. There’s no point in trading half your team to become the Blazers.

3.) 14 Dec 2021 02:17:39
I think OKC is really happy with Giddey as their prize pick and wouldn't want to part with him and 3 other upcoming 1st rounders even if its for Brown. (Maybe he's worth that much, but I don't see OKC valuing him that much) . It would take a huge gulp for Celtics with the health status of both their acquisitions here. I think I'd love it if I'm Portland's GM because they can easily cut Horford and be done with Schroeder next year and clean up the cap.

4.) 14 Dec 2021 02:19:50
I don't see this as the direction Boston wants to go in at all.

5.) 14 Dec 2021 06:06:47
BHC, trading 3 players equates to trading half the team? Also, if the Celtics become the Blazers after this deal, then would you mind telling me who Jayson Tatum is on the Blazers? With him, Williams, and Smart still on the roster, this becomes a far better team than what they have in Portland.

6.) 14 Dec 2021 11:28:05
The thing is Boston just isn't going to trade Brown for Dame. I know he's a top whatever player and all that good stuff but he's a little gaurd on the wrong side of 30 who's going to be making insane money and may already be declining. I said here no to Brown for Vucevic and people said but they need a big man. I said no to Brown for Harden and people thought I was nuts. It's also a no for Dame even if Brown were to hit the trade market which is unrealistic anyway. As far as CJ, poor defender and this injury is concerning. Not much interest there.

7.) 14 Dec 2021 11:57:40
Boston haven't been significant in many years. They've been in mediocrity mostly when they had Paul Pierce. Then they traded for 2 star players in their 30's and finally won a championship. Same thing will happen with Tatum or Brown if Boston doesn't make a move in the near future. Trading assets for all stars to compliment their best player will be a good direction imo. Just saying.

8.) 14 Dec 2021 13:12:12
Paul Pierce was late in his career. Tatum and Brown are not. I bet there are a lot of teams who don't have interest in Dame. The dude is going to be making over 50 million when he's 35. No thanks. Btw Tatum and Brown, as young as they are, have been to 2 Eastern Conference finals. They are not far off now despite what it may seem to some.

9.) 14 Dec 2021 16:49:17
Tatum and Brown won't get past Durant and Harden for years. Also won't get pass Giannis and his Bucks. Maybe if injuries come, they'll be lucky.

10.) 14 Dec 2021 18:14:12
I think that's far from a given, but if you believe that then I guess you believe all of the other teams should trade away one of their best players.



07 Dec 2021 23:27:11
This is a trade I'd like to see happen, and I think it makes sense for both sides.

Hornets get Lonzo Ball and a second round pick

Bulls get Terry Rozier and PJ Washington

I think it'd be fascinating to watch the Ball brothers play together. Lonzo would make LaMelo's life a lot easier: spread the floor for him, take playmaking pressure off him, and defend the opposing team's best perimeter player for him. Plus, Lonzo is already locked up contractually.

The Bulls address their front court needs by getting an excellent 3-and-D player at the 4. Rozier is a downgrade at point guard, but he's still an offensive threat who should thrive with all of the attention going to LaVine and DeRozan.


1.) 08 Dec 2021 00:47:05
Valuewise, yeah good. But I believe Chicago will hold on to Ball. He's been playing pretty great for them. He facilitates, Rozier will probably takes some shots from Derozan and Lavine.



06 Dec 2021 04:06:44
If things haven't drastically improved for the Celtics by the trade deadline, then who says no?

Warriors get Robert Williams III

Celtics get James Wiseman

Warriors get a young stud center who realistically could shoot 80% from the field with the spacing in GSW. The Celtics get a younger big with more height and upside as they look to the future rather than winning right now.


1.) 06 Dec 2021 06:01:54
I believe things have already drastically improved for Boston who are 13 - 11 after starting 2 - 5 and haven't had a healthy Brown yet.

As far as the trade, I love Williams but there are injury concerns. Wiseman seems to have injury concerns as well so far so I don't know. Seems like a risk from both sides.




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27 Jan 2022 18:11:53
Paul George might require elbow surgery, which would keep him out for the rest of the season. So with Kawhi and PG likely out for the year, it's time to tank. Right?

Wrong. The Clippers' unprotected 2022 first belongs to OKC. All of their firsts up to 2026 belong to OKC (either unprotected or by way of a pick swap). Outside of Kennard, Zubac, and Mann, virtually the entire roster is 30+ years old. No one outside of the big 2 is particularly valuable either.

The Clippers are in a terrible situation. Even if PG and Kawhi come back healthy next year, that alone won't be enough to win a championship. They need to upgrade the roster around them, but have essentially no assets to do so.

I think the PG trade will end up being perceived as a bust, and there will be some dark times ahead for LAC.

Any thoughts on what this team should do? I'd say trade any role player they can get a draft pick for and then try loading up next year. But can any of these guys even get you a decent pick? I'm not too sure.


1.) 27 Jan 2022 21:28:44
Like the Lakers, they've put themselves in a tough spot going all in on a couple of superstars. Paid off for the Lakers at first but look at them now. I'm not really sure what they CAN do other than weather the storm until PG and Kawhi come back. Ship Ibaka to a contender for a pick? Maybe they shoehorn themselves into a larger, multi-team trade in the offseason - package a couple expiring vets for a more complementary piece? Shrug emoji.

2.) 27 Jan 2022 22:47:18
I would blow it up if I were LAC management. It didn't work. The 2 years GS was down was the window they had. Almost everybody got better in the west. except LAC. Wtbs. Kawhi and PG would bring back a nice haul if they did it this summer. 2 coveted pieces with good years left.

3.) 28 Jan 2022 02:37:56
They should focus on developing Boston and Johnson.

4.) 28 Jan 2022 22:23:55
But they can’t blow it up, that’s the problem. They’d be punting on the next 4 years if they did, because they wouldn’t have their own picks.



25 Jan 2022 21:37:12
Marcus Smart seems to think that he'll get traded, do you guys think he will? Hit agree if you think he's gone, disagree if you think he'll stay.

Personally, I think he'll stay. There doesn't appear to be a particularly attractive player available who would be worth trading Smart for. Ben Simmons would be great alongside Tatum and Brown, but there's almost no way that Morey agrees to a Simmons trade with Smart as the center piece.

If the Celtics do trade Smart, I think it'll be a "buyer's trade" where the Celtics try to upgrade the roster and win now. However, it wouldn't shock me if they opted for a "seller's trade" where they get young players and draft picks for him and focus on the future.



1.) 25 Jan 2022 23:30:36
They'd have to have a PG in play. There's Smoke about Smart to Dallas, who happens to have a decision to make about Jalen Brunson. I think he stays.

2.) 26 Jan 2022 00:17:36
Boston overvalues Smart to the point that he’s almost impossible to trade.

3.) 26 Jan 2022 02:09:30
Bmiller exactly how much does Boston value Smart? Just wondering because I follow them closely and I don't even know.

4.) 26 Jan 2022 05:09:37
He’s the “heart of the team” and “the defensive anchor” and those things. There seems like a huge emotional connection that makes him more than just the nice role player that he is.

5.) 26 Jan 2022 12:06:05
The problem with coming up with his value is that he is not a great player, but his impact is great. You may not know that if you don't watch him enough. Believe me, if I didn't see that I would say get him out of here.

6.) 26 Jan 2022 15:32:13
Smart is valuable to a team with stars not willing to do the dirty work (a mini Dennis Rodman) .

Kinda explains the Dallas trade rumors.

7.) 27 Jan 2022 15:35:21
It's been reported that before Atlanta traded Reddish to NY, they were discussing a deal with Boston that would have sent out Reddish and Huerter for Smart.



15 Dec 2021 17:04:51
Klay Thompson is the world's most expensive cheerleader. Debate a wall.


1.) 15 Dec 2021 18:22:38
John wall has entered the discussion.

2.) 15 Dec 2021 22:40:08
Wall played last year, wants to play this year, and doesn't go to the games. Klay holds the title.



08 Nov 2021 14:18:35
The new Wilson ball is causing shooters across the league to struggle. What if it has the opposite effect on bad shooters? Incoming 40% three point shooting season for Ben Simmons.

Seriously though, what's the point of this new ball? I assume it's just because of money; Wilson probably outbid Spalding to be the NBA's official ball. Is extra money really worth harming your product's quality though? Doesn't seem like a good trade-off to me.

What do you guys think? Personally, I hope the league goes back to Spalding ASAP. I'm a fan of good defense but this isn't even good defense, it's just bad shooting due to an inferior basketball.




03 Nov 2021 20:18:12
Obviously way too early to start discussing season awards, but Tyler Herro is easily the 6th man of the year so far. Although he's clearly outplaying Duncan Robinson, he will likely continue to come off the bench as the second unit's leading scorer.

If Herro keeps this up, he should run away with 6MOTY. His bench production gives the Heat a real chance at getting back to the finals.


1.) 03 Nov 2021 22:01:14
Apparently, he set an NBA record for most point by a reserve through the first 7 games. Just found this out.

2.) 03 Nov 2021 22:03:41
I have a hard time believing he continues to come off the bench. It’s not hard to stagger minutes to let him continue to play with the second unit. But the respect of being a starter is a real thing in the NBA.

3.) 03 Nov 2021 22:28:35
I tried to mention few months back he would bounce back. Lot of people had his trade value way too low. Even tho he average 15/ 5/ 3.

4.) 03 Nov 2021 23:04:33
I don't know if anyone will agree but I see Herro being better than Devin Booker (bold) . That kid has a killer instinct and not afraid of any moment.

5.) 03 Nov 2021 23:12:09
Bmiller it wouldn't really surprise me either way, but my bet is that he continues to come off the bench. Robinson wouldn't be as effective coming off the bench (considering that he's a catch-and-shoot specialist who gets clean looks playing alongside the starters), whereas Herro can create his own shot and score in a variety of ways.

Would you rather be a good starter, or the best reserve in the league? Depends on who you ask, but for a young guy like Herro who is still on his rookie deal, it wouldn't surprise me if he preferred that 6MOTY hardware.

6.) 04 Nov 2021 02:11:23
Plus starter gets paid more than 6MOY.

And yeah, I’d rather be a good starter than the best non-starter. It’s like saying would you rather be the worst all star or best non all star. And that’s how things like all star voting is look at him being a starter or not. It could end up costing him money by not starting.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he came off the bench the rest of the year. But this feels like a Harden situation where he will not be happy long term with this.

7.) 04 Nov 2021 05:15:34
I agree. Heat on the top of East with Bulls. Herro is the favorite to win the 6MOTY. My runner up is Trez Harrell. My darkhorse for 6thman is Melo7.

8.) 04 Nov 2021 14:06:52
Bmiller I think you can make the argument that Herro would earn himself a bigger contract coming off the bench than he would in a starting role where he's reduced to mostly catch-and-shoot. Playing with the second-unit allows him to show off his full array of skills. He's going to get paid regardless; if the Heat don't want to, then someone else will.

I don't think your all-star analogy is completely fair. Anyone would rather be an all-star, but I'm willing to bet that some players would rather run the show with the reserves than be the 4th option amongst the starters. Especially young players who want to show off their offensive skills.

As for Harden, he wanted to stay in OKC but he also wanted to get paid like a star. Money was what ultimately caused the split. Despite being a reserve, plenty of teams were willing to pay him like a star because of the skills he showed while on the floor. Same thing applies to Herro. I'm sure he won't want to come off the bench for his whole career, but at this point it's not costing him anything.




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27 Jan 2022 15:23:30
Ingles fits the Jazz perfectly, no way would they agree to do this.




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27 Jan 2022 15:22:18
Rubio is out for the year, so this makes very little sense for the Lakers.




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26 Jan 2022 17:29:02
I think it’d be unwise for the Raptors to give up a first (even if it’s protected) for a 33 year old Eric Gordon. They’re still a few years away from being serious contenders. Even if you meant Aaron Gordon, that’s still unwise because of the surplus of forwards on the team.




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26 Jan 2022 04:00:49
Fredman, they'd trade Curry's benchwarmer of a brother-in-law and possible bust Wiseman for Christian Wood in a heartbeat. Yes, star players typically have a say in trades. But their say doesn't mean as much when they just signed an extension and when it's such an obviously good move.




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26 Jan 2022 03:33:14
You can't sign-and-trade a player in the middle of a season.





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