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12 Apr 2022 18:51:20
If the Lakers decide to keep LeBron and go all-in again next year.

Lakers get Malcolm Brogdon and Buddy Hield

Pacers get Russell Westbrook and an unprotected 2027 first

Lakers get a much better fit at point guard and a floor spacer for Bron and AD. Pacers get a $47 million expiring contract that they likely buy out so they can hand the keys to Haliburton, and a likely lottery pick. Win-now for LA, cap space and youth for Indy.


1.) 12 Apr 2022 19:56:27
Indiana has zero reason to do this.

They can get a much better return by trading Brodgon and Hield separately.

2.) 12 Apr 2022 19:57:42
Would be perfect for Lakers and make them contenders again depending on AD’s health.

I like it for Pacers if they use that cap on young players, there will be a lot of good RFA they can possibly pry away with a ton of cap space they would have if this deal goes through. This trade also makes them in the running for a top 5 pick next year.

3.) 12 Apr 2022 20:20:47
Like it.

4.) 12 Apr 2022 20:53:09
Carl, Hield hardly had any value at deadline which is why he was thrown is a just a salary filler in the Sabonis trade.

Brogdon can prolly fetch a decent player and mid 1st at most.

5.) 12 Apr 2022 21:20:01
If Brogdon can fetch a decent player and a mid 1st, it would be 10x better than takin on Wesbrook to just buy him out.

6.) 13 Apr 2022 00:52:56
I think it’s bad for Indiana.

7.) 13 Apr 2022 01:13:04
I mean Westbrook is a decent player lmao even if y’all want to hate on him, and that 2027 1st could be rly good.

8.) 13 Apr 2022 03:50:24
NBA16 - could be really good. But by the time Indiana would get that pick, the GM and coach are likely to be gone.

Buying out or waiving Westbrook would be a steep price to pay to get a 1st round pick in 5 years.

9.) 13 Apr 2022 07:07:49
I think Indiana would be willing to do this kind of trade. Ask Gasupo.

10.) 13 Apr 2022 21:59:20
Buying out Westbrook is a lot less expensive than paying the remainder of Brogdon and Hield’s contracts. Hield doesn’t expire until 2024, Brogdon doesn’t expire until 2025. Only a few of you seem to understand that this makes a lot of financial sense for the Pacers.

11.) 13 Apr 2022 22:08:48
Westbrook has $47 million left on his deal, whereas Brogdon and Hield have a combined $106.7 million left on theirs. You guys can do the math. Also, if Russ gets bought out, he won’t get the full $47 million: meaning even greater savings for the Pacers.

12.) 14 Apr 2022 01:00:55
The Pacers can keep the players they have signed for next year. They have 2 or 3 decent draft picks for next year. That means they will have either 13 or 14 players signed for just under 100 million. That leaves them around $22 million to spend this summer to fill their 15 positions! This trade proposal is completely one sided!

13.) 14 Apr 2022 13:04:15
Casual - The Pacers will get production from Brodgon and Hield, but get none from Westbrook. Just paying Westbrook to go away is a complete waist of $47 million dollars.

Like I have said, they can get better returns for Brodgon and Hield than Westbrook and a first round pick in 5 years.

If Beal stays in Washington, Brodgon would be a nice fit for them.
Heck, if the Lakers waive and stretch Wesbrook, they could trake THT for Heild.



12 Apr 2022 16:37:53
Warriors get LeBron James

Lakers get Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, and the rights to the Warriors 2022 first round pick

The Warriors go all-in on winning another ring with Steph Curry. The Lakers get a big expiring contract in Wiggins, a high upside young big in Wiseman, and a young prospect.


1.) 12 Apr 2022 18:19:24
the Warriors are the Dodgers of the NBA.



04 Mar 2022 04:20:16
If the Nets fail to win it all this year, the pressure on them to win will be at an all-time high in 2023. Who says no to this?

Nets get LeBron James

Lakers get Ben Simmons and Day'Ron Sharpe

Unless the Lakers can find a way to drastically improve this offseason, LBJ will be on his way out next summer. I think it's in the Lakers best interest to trade him while they still can. Getting an all-star in his mid 20's who is one of the best defenders in the game in exchange for a nearly 40 year old player on an expiring contract is amazing value. Lakers likely enter a full rebuild, but perhaps they give Simmons and AD a year together and see what they have. Russ would obviously need a new home though.

The Nets form the most talented big 3 in NBA history. Personalities become a question: would KD want to share the spotlight with LeBron? Would Kyrie be okay with playing alongside LeBron again? If the Nets disappoint in the postseason, it's likely that the two stars would be willing to put their egos aside for a massive upgrade. If healthy, the Nets would be a near lock to win the 2023 finals. They run a risk of only having LBJ for 1 year, but defending a title is a pretty good reason to stick around. LBJ and KD are also great friends, so there's that.


1.) 04 Mar 2022 16:53:27
I really like a LBJ-K Durant combo.



08 Feb 2022 14:58:43
With CJ McCollum headed to NOLA, is it finally time for the Blazers to blow it up?

76ers get Damian Lillard

Blazers get Ben Simmons, an unprotected 2022 first round pick, and a top 3 protected 2028 first (remove the protection for the 2025 first headed to OKC so that it's unprotected in 2026)


1.) 08 Feb 2022 15:16:33
It’s definitely time. I think Blazers will want more than a Simmons and late picks. Maybe Thybulle or Springer too.

2.) 08 Feb 2022 15:50:14
It's smart trading McCollum before Lilliard,
They still have options now.
-Trade Lilliard
-Trade for a star to keep Lilliard happy.

3.) 08 Feb 2022 16:28:14

And nope to that trade if they did. I’d want Maxey and Thybulle, with Simmons, two first and every swap possible.

4.) 08 Feb 2022 16:50:19
Asking for Maxey and Thybulle is pushing it.

5.) 08 Feb 2022 18:11:12
Bmiller package sounds fair for a 27 year old Dame, not the aging injury prone Dame we have now.

6.) 08 Feb 2022 19:30:46
Well, Simmons is broken too. He’s not a headliner to me. I’d need real serious value besides him.

7.) 08 Feb 2022 19:47:55
Maxey can be that headliner and 2 pick. Not Thybulle and every single swap available as well.

8.) 08 Feb 2022 21:53:21
Simmons is hardly broken, he’s still the best perimeter defender in the game and a great playmaker. Unlikely he’ll ever be anything more than that but let’s not act like he wouldn’t be a great return for an aging star.

9.) 08 Feb 2022 22:13:57
Swaps are assumed in any deal like that. And they likely turn into nothing. Thybulle might not hold up a deal, I definitely don’t value him that much. He’s an ok defender and a zero on offense. But without getting an absolute haul, why trade Lillard?

But at the end of the day, I don’t have much interest in trading Dame at all.

10.) 08 Feb 2022 22:23:11
Maxey isn’t going to be traded. Blazers can have anyone else. Also, they definitely ran this deal by Dame first, so unless something is in the works I’d imagine he okayed the moves and hopes Portland can sign someone with the cap space



01 Feb 2022 14:27:38
Timberwolves get Ben Simmons and Tobias Harris

76ers get D'Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley, Patrick Beverly, and a top 3 protected 2022 first round pick


1.) 01 Feb 2022 16:07:25
There is no way the Wolves trade away all of that for the honor of paying Harris’ contract.

2.) 01 Feb 2022 16:26:25
BeerBrewer, Harris has 2 years left on his deal after this season. He'll have value next summer as an expiring contract. He's overpaid but it's not like he's useless, he'd be a great third scoring option on the Wolves. Plus there's Ben Simmons, who is a far better defender and playmaker than anyone currently on their roster.

3.) 01 Feb 2022 16:56:53
I think 76ers would ask for Prince instead of Bev. 76ers are taking back 3 guards and already have Maxey Curry and Milton. Prince could fill in that PF role with Niang and is an expiring contract.

Wolves could use that PG depth.




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04 Mar 2022 01:04:56
LeBron can easily force his way back to Cleveland this summer. He has a nuclear option in his pocket: telling Pelinka "trade me or I'm sitting out for the season."

A year off really wouldn't be so bad for LeBron. He could spend a whole year rehabbing and getting as healthy as he possibly can. A rest like this might even prolong his career.

Even if it's just a bluff, are the Lakers really in any position to call this bluff? I would say no. They're in a terrible situation right now and appear to have reverted to their ineptitude that they maintained throughout most of the 2010's. Losing LeBron for nothing, whether it be this summer or next, would be a grand embarrassment and major setback.

What would such a trade look like? I think a Collin Sexton sign-and-trade along with a first round pick should be enough. Perhaps the Cavs throw in Kevin Love's expiring contract as a salary filler. Getting a promising 23 year old point guard to focus the rebuild on is a lot better than nothing.

Thoughts on a potential LBJ to Cleveland trade, or on Bron's situation in LA in general?


1.) 04 Mar 2022 13:13:03
LeBron/ Garland/ Okoro/ Mobley/ Allen with Lauri and LeVert off the bench would be nice. Or start LeVert, but I like him as a sixth man in this case.

2.) 04 Mar 2022 13:41:10
Hmmm. I would be more curious on how much of a hit his image would take for "sitting out a year". Look at how much blow back Lebron got for "the decision". Look how much Harden has taken for "quitting on 2 teams". Just not sure that Lebron and/ or Klutch Sports are willing to take that PR hit at any costs.

3.) 04 Mar 2022 14:02:04
I don't think Cleveland wants him. I don't think they should want him. They've done an excellent job rebuilding and I don't think Cleveland management would jeopardize team chemistry by bringing James' ego into the mix.

4.) 04 Mar 2022 16:45:19
I think Cleveland would love to have him if they don’t give up any of their core.

5.) 04 Mar 2022 23:34:08
I agree with Fred, Lebron won't sit a year. C'mon he is 37 and chasing that scoring title, why would he sit a year lol.

6.) 06 Mar 2022 19:15:42
I don’t think he would either, but the threat of sitting out a year is all it’d take. At this point in his career, I’m not sure how concerned with his “image” he is. He’s already a legend and a top 5 player of all time, and sitting out a year at this stage of his career isn’t going to change that. I don’t think it happens, but it’d be one hell of a threat to drop if he really does want out.

As per raps fan: you’re absolutely tripping if you think the Cavs wouldn’t welcome LeBron back with open arms if they can acquire him without disrupting their core. Adding LeBron to the mix would elevate them from playoff team to bonafide championship contenders.



12 Feb 2022 03:27:05
Now that we've had some time to digest it, how are we feeling about the James Harden trade? Hit agree if you think the 76ers won, disagree if you think the Nets won.

This is one of the more balanced trades involving a superstar that I've seen. It's especially interesting that it's between two legit championship contenders.

The 76ers were playing good without Simmons. For the purposes of this season, they've essentially turned Seth Curry and Andre Drummond into James Harden. Needless to say, that's a massive upgrade which drastically improves their title odds. The fact that they also managed to keep Maxey and Thybulle is a big win.

The Nets get the better longterm outlook considering that they get a young star and draft picks. The added depth and defense from Simmons also helps them this year. However, I have concerns for the Nets come playoff time. With Kyrie being out for home playoff games and Simmons being Simmons, KD is going to need to carry the offense at home.

I'd say the 76ers won just because I think they have a better chance at getting a championship out of this trade. However, it really could go either way. The winner of this trade will be determined by whoever manages to win.


1.) 12 Feb 2022 08:46:33
I think they both won

-Verry good team, but not a true contender before the Harden trade. They really have a three year window now.
They got the best player in the trade.
-It's the first time Harden playes with an elite center, that can should threes.
-It's the first time Embiid isn't the best player in his team.
Philly is two injuries away to be ruined for years. Embiid has an injury history and Harden is aging, playing a lot of minutes and games in the past.

They got the best player available considering that Lilliard and Beal weren't really on the market.

The Nets:
-The get a young proven player and draft picks back
-they could lose Harden for free next summer.

-Simmons and Irving in one team?
-New york isn't the best place for a player that can't handle the pressure

I think this could work. Simmons can do for the Nets what D Green does for golden state and play point forward or small ball center.
And he can drive to the ring with Curry, Irving, Durant and Harris on the floor.

2.) 12 Feb 2022 14:55:09
@Gasupo I agree, it’s a very balanced trade. If Harris comes back this year from ankle surgery the Nets should start that exact lineup you mentioned. However, only having Kyrie for away games is a big blow. Without him or Harden, KD will be the only player who can consistently create his own shot at home.

I could see this trade going down as a win-win, but over the next few years it’s championship or bust for both teams. If both teams get one then it’s truly a win-win. If neither team gets one, the Nets probably win because Simmons gives them a building block for years to come. Only time will tell.

3.) 12 Feb 2022 16:07:46
Sixers got the best player, but depth could be a concern. Especially if one of Harden or Embiid go down with an injury (agree with @Gasupo) . The last two seasons they've had Howard then Drummond backing up Joel. Maybe they find a guy or two on the buyout market? I don't know what their cap/ tax situation is like.

Nets added some nice depth in Curry and Drummond, who both address needs and balance the roster a little better. Defensively they'll be a tough out when Durant and Simmons are both playing together at a high level. I think his lack of shooting is probably less of a concern on a healthy Nets team, but we'll see. Games without Irving could be interesting, but maybe having Curry helps make up for some of that? I'll echo the NY fanbase thing too. If Simmons had a hard time in Philly, he won't face any less pressure in NY.

On paper it almost seems like a wash in the short term if Philly can address their depth via the buyout market. It will most likely come down to injuries/ availability and depth or lack thereof. Long term I give it to the Nets, although I don't know how much fruit it will bear for them this season.

4.) 12 Feb 2022 16:22:17
What Philly is gambling on is that Harden AND Embiid can be healthy for the entire playoffs. I would say that it is not likely that both will get through the playoffs uninjured.

5.) 12 Feb 2022 17:05:13
A thought that just came to mind: Simmons and Drummond are nearly unplayable at the same time. They’d be terrible for spacing. Same thing applies to Simmons + Griffin, and Drummond + Griffin. With Joe Harris out and questionable to return, it’ll be interesting to see what Steve Nash does with his rotations.

6.) 13 Feb 2022 13:13:43
I think it's an awful trade for Philly and a great one for Brooklyn who I see as unbeatable if they get all of their weapons on the floor. Let's not underestimate the subtraction of Curry from Philly and addition for Brooklyn. Harden is not reliable in any way and his upcoming contract will be a disaster. As a Celtics fan, I was much more wary of Philly when they had Simmons than I am now. On top of it all, now Brooklyn has draft capital to go get a center in the offseason. As it is, having Durant, Simmons, Kyrie, and Curry on the floor at the same time with anyone is terrifying.

7.) 13 Feb 2022 21:20:39
Nightcap, your Celtics would get wrecked by Philly before and after the trade. So no worries on that front. Simmons wasn’t going to ever play for them again, so trading him for one of the top scorers in the league who can also spread the floor for Embiid is a win. Seth Curry is a great complementary player and the 76ers will miss him, but does he truly offset the Ben Simmons spacing effect? And how clean will his looks really be when Kyrie isn’t playing?

People want to point to Embiid and Harden’s health concerns, yet ignore that KD and Kyrie are pretty much just as injury-prone. Simmons is durable, but his only offensive use comes from playing alongside good shooters/ scorers. The trade is a wash and we will only see a true winner if one of these teams wins it all.

8.) 14 Feb 2022 00:09:38
Why would Boston get wrecked by Philly? There's a recent playoff history between the 2 and it's been dominated by Boston. Unless it's just a guess I'm not sure what you're basing that on.

I think Philly would have been better off keeping Curry and trading Simmons for a more reliable package. They went for a big name that the GM has a relationship with and it will likely backfire. Harden has put up big numbers and lost his entire career, and quit on teammates and teams in the process.



10 Feb 2022 18:46:53
Could anyone explain how the 76ers were able to trade their 2027 first to Brooklyn when OKC has possible rights to it?

OKC has rights to Philly's 2025 first (top 6 protected). If that pick isn't conveyed, then OKC has rights to their 2026 first (top 4 protected). If that pick isn't conveyed, then OKC has rights to their 2027 first (top 4 protected).

Due to the possibility that the Thunder could end up with Philly's 2027 first, how can Philly trade it away? Were the protections removed on the 2025 pick? Or is it on the condition that OKC conveys the 2025 first? If that pick isn't conveyed until 2026, then Philly can't trade the 2027 first without a Stepien rule violation.

If anyone knows please lmk.


1.) 10 Feb 2022 21:54:26
I think it is listed as a "2027 pick" but it is actually a first round pick conveyed 2 years after Philly conveys the pick to OKC (which will most likely be 2027).



10 Feb 2022 05:49:17
Fredman, how'd that big bet on the Timberwolves work out for ya? 😂 don't gamble kids, but if you do, do the opposite of whatever this man says to do


1.) 10 Feb 2022 06:57:50
I believe he meant the last night's game? Not tonight.

2.) 10 Feb 2022 11:08:00
Yup. Bet on first Kings-TWolves game (2 games back-to-back) when Sabonis had not arrived to Sac yet. Minn won by 20 and I pocketed over $1k.

Kids only gamble what you can afford to lose.

3.) 10 Feb 2022 13:07:11
Lol my bad Fredman, I just like to troll. You’re a good man.



08 Feb 2022 18:17:18
How are we feeling about Sabonis to the Kings? Hit agree if the Pacers won, disagree if Sac won.

I think the value is fair but it makes a lot more sense for the Pacers to me. The Kings have a young star duo now, but neither can shoot and both are ball dominant.

Plus I feel like the Kings are too far out of the playoff mix to be "buyers." I like the Pacers approach of going young and going after a better lottery position.


1.) 08 Feb 2022 20:20:58
Makes me think the Pacers are probably holding onto Turner now. With Sabonis gone, getting rid of Turner leaves them pretty thin in the post. Factor in the foot injury possibly hurting his value, as well as comments he's made in the past about his fit next to Sabonis and maybe now it makes more sense to keep him.

I'm surprised the Kings included Haliburton in the deal (more from a development standpoint than a value one) but it seems like the move will balance out the roster better for both teams (if the Pacers keep Turner), generally speaking. Wondering where the Kings will get their 3 point shooting from with Haliburton and Hield both gone. Unless they have something else up their sleeve with Bagley and/ or Barnes heading out.

2.) 08 Feb 2022 22:00:21
@jdc my thoughts exactly, the Kings just shipped out arguably their two best shooters. I feel like you need 3 shooters on the floor with Fox and Sabonis for that duo to reach its potential. It’s not an awful trade for the Kings but it’s one that they could easily regret, especially if Hali blossoms in Indy.

3.) 08 Feb 2022 22:24:09
I am more concerned with the Kings defense than their 3pt shooting.

4.) 08 Feb 2022 23:23:34
Sabonis isn't a bad defender

I hope the duo Sabonis-Fox works, the kings need to make the playoffs a few times.

5.) 09 Feb 2022 01:58:36
@Gasupo Sabonis's defense is mediocre at best. Fredman's defensive concerns are with good reason. However, I'm slightly more concerned with the 3pt shooting. Opposing teams are probably already looking to clog the lanes against the Kings and dare Fox/ Sabonis to shoot from outside. Giving this duo some space to work with will go a long ways towards helping that offense and allowing both stars to be productive.




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21 Apr 2022 15:53:26
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14 Apr 2022 20:46:52
Seems like too much for OG, and it doesn't make a lot of sense for a rebuilding Pacers team. I think they'd be better off holding on to their picks and flipping Brogdon for another first. OG is nice and only 24, but he doesn't strike me as a franchise corner stone type of player.




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14 Apr 2022 20:43:47
@Fredman sure that's what the Wizards want, but they have no say in the matter if it's a sign-and-trade like this. They'd gladly wait 5 years for a lottery pick rather than watch Beal leave for nothing. Washington could've got a much better package for Beal if they moved him last offseason, but they didn't, so here we are.




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14 Apr 2022 17:58:18
After thinking about it more, the Lakers probably don’t have to give 2 first rounders. If Beal wants out, getting a likely lottery pick out of him is way better than losing him for nothing. Hurts that the pick is 5 years down the line, but the Wizards have very little leverage in this situation. Only leverage they’d have is if they can create a bidding war between two teams that Beal wants to play for. Otherwise, the Wizards have to take what they can get.




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14 Apr 2022 14:50:13
As far as sign-and-trades go, the value is pretty fair. Wizards get an expiring contract and what will likely be two lottery picks. Not sure how interested Beal would be in joining the Lakers circus though, especially with Bron potentially leaving soon.





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25 Apr 2022 02:31:14
Least deserving ROTY ever but congrats to Masai on taking him over Suggs.




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19 Apr 2022 14:04:52
Ja probably will get MIP just because of the hype surrounding him. I think Murray, Garland, and Poole (who isn't a finalist) are more deserving though. Ja took a huge step forward, but I think the award should go to guys who made that step from not-a-star to star. Ja was already amazing last year. Him winning the award won't bother me or anything, but that's my two cents.




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12 Apr 2022 16:23:30
OKC gets another lottery pick if the Clippers flop.




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27 Mar 2022 22:18:02
I think the CP3 and Harden backcourt might be better than Harden and Clyde the glide. Close call tho.




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15 Mar 2022 13:45:30
Happy birthday MD. I hope your wildest trades come true (not really) .