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06 Feb 2020 22:07:35
Buyout market....
I'm not sure why Cleveland made the deal for Drummond, but I'm predicting that will lead to a buyout for Tristan Thompson. He'll then sign with the Raptors for the rest of the year.


1.) 06 Feb 2020 22:55:32
It’s already came out that they Cavs won’t buy out TT.

2.) 06 Feb 2020 23:51:05
What do you think about that deal for Drummond? Was it a steal or what?

3.) 07 Feb 2020 01:01:32
but why would they keep him if they want to give his minutes to Drummond?

4.) 07 Feb 2020 07:15:56
I heard that they will sign and trade them. There is only a few teams have salary cap.

5.) 07 Feb 2020 13:31:39
asdenam i'm guessing that's going to work out just as well as the Love contract that was going to make him more tradeable lol.

6.) 07 Feb 2020 20:37:04
There’s talk that Tristan might not have wanted a buy out because he needs a team to have his bird rights for him to go a decent team for more than a minimum contract.

7.) 07 Feb 2020 22:09:05
I think Thompson wanted to stay because the Cavs could pay him more, then wanted to be traded when he found out they weren't going to. they said they wouldn't buy him out when they were trying to pressure Houston to make an offer. now they have Drummond the situation changes. I wouldn't be surprised to see a buyout. I hope he comes to Toronto if he is, but he may go to Houston where there would be a bigger role available.



23 Jan 2020 16:44:03
Out - Hollis-Jefferson, McCaw, 2020 1st
In - Rose

Out - Rose
In - TOR 2020 1st, Hollis-Jefferson, McCaw

Is this enough for Rose?
Will Toronto think he's worth a 1st?


1.) 23 Jan 2020 17:04:47
That seems like the low end of a plausible package for him. I don’t see why the Raptors would target a 3 pg though.

2.) 23 Jan 2020 18:19:28
It would be because they run FVV and Lowry in the starting lineup, both at heavy minutes. I would also assume possibly as insurance with Lowry expiring next season and Vanvleet set for free agency.

3.) 24 Jan 2020 16:14:12
So basically Pistons get hosed and Toronto gets a player who has played at his former MVP level. The first is going to be low and the two players they get have been bench players at best. Detroit can get more passes.

4.) 29 Jan 2020 22:24:03
I wouldn't trade RHJ just because there short on his position. and they would be better off trading McCaw and Stanley and a second round. but with that being said rose isn't worth a first round pick.

5.) 30 Jan 2020 14:09:11
Rose is worth a first; can't see him fitting in with 2 pg's already. would have to include a third team.

6.) 30 Jan 2020 15:15:33



16 Jan 2020 21:38:11
According to ESPN Minnesota is still interested in DLo, but GS isn't inclined to move him....
If the Warriors were interested in Wiggins this probably would have happened already, so it's doubtful there's any straight up trade between the Wolves and Warriors to be done....
Maybe a promising young SF and a couple of picks will entice them?


Out - Russell, RobinsonIII
In - Winslow, Johnson, Minn 2020 1st, Utah 2020 1st protected 1-14, else 2021 1st protected 1-14, else 2025 1st

Out - Wiggins, 2020 1st
In - Russell, RobinsonIII

Out - Conley, Protected 1st (see above)
In - Dragic, Waiters

Out - Dragic, Waiters, Johnson, Winslow
In - Conley, Wiggins

Trade Machine calls it +4Minn, +3Utah, a wash for Miami and -27 for GS

That's why picks are going to the Warriors... I think Miami wins as proposed... Golden State maintains salary (they can package out Johnson later to take back productive salary) and gets a promising young player and picks... Steve Kerr can dress and do the ballhandling for the rest of the year


1.) 16 Jan 2020 23:16:26
Why would the Heat trade for Wiggins when their best player had a bad past with him?

2.) 17 Jan 2020 02:49:41
Utah's 2020 first already protected to go to Memphis in Conley deal.

Secondly, reports have it that Miami is not taking on salaries that impact their available cap space for 2021 FAs (Giannis in Miami? ) .

3.) 17 Jan 2020 19:53:16
Psiphon- imagine Wiggins fitting in reaching his potential.



05 Jan 2020 03:31:58
Toronto goes all in


Toronto receives: Drummond (DET), Holiday (NOP), signs Jamal Crawford and converts Brisset and Ponds 2 way contracts

Detroit receives: Gasol (TOR), McCaw (TOR), Miller (TOR), Toronto 2020 1st , waive Miller and Thomas

New Orleans receives: Powell (TOR), Johnson (TOR), Hernandez (TOR), Toronto 2022 1st, waive Johnson and Williams

TOR depth:
Lowry / van Vliet / Ponds
Holiday / Davis / Thomas
Anunoby / Hollis Jefferson / Crawford
Siakim / Boucher / Brisset
Drummond / Ibaka

DET depth:
Frazier / Rose / Bowen
Kennard / McCaw / Mykhailiuk
Snell / Bowen / Galloway
Griffin / Morris / Doumbouya
Gasol/ Wood / Maker

NOP depth:
Ball / Jackson / Gray
Reddick / Moore / Alexander-Walker
Hart / Powell / Williamson
Ingram / Melli / Hernandez
Favors / Hays / Okafor


1.) 05 Jan 2020 13:54:37
hmm! not too bad.

2.) 05 Jan 2020 14:07:51
Bad return for Holiday.

3.) 05 Jan 2020 23:20:01
Fredman Powell is a 25 year old scoring 14 points a game in multiple ways on a 4th seed and he plays great defence plus a first round pick that return is just fine.

4.) 06 Jan 2020 15:17:04
Bad return for Detroit nothing to build with.

5.) 01 Feb 2020 19:44:04
Toronto might go all in but NOLA and Detroit go all out by saying no



03 Jan 2020 23:40:41

Raptors send Stanley Johnson and 2020 2nd round pick to Chicago for Kris Dunn


1.) 04 Jan 2020 21:54:50
Send Dunn to a third team and we get back a scoring wing.

2.) 05 Jan 2020 00:33:49
Nobody wants Dunn.

3.) 05 Jan 2020 16:10:32
Tor:J. Jackson
chi:S. Johnson, UTA 2nd via Dal.




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23 Feb 2020 03:24:41
Next season, who's coaching?



1.) 23 Feb 2020 16:02:55
Rivers, Walton and whomever is in Milwaukee are going to still be there.

Everybody else is or will be looking for new coaching. Add San Antonio to the mix. Think Pop is done after the Olympics.

2.) 23 Feb 2020 20:19:59
I'm not sure Rivers sticks if the Clippers fail in the playoffs. I think he needs to win the second round to keep his job. if he goes I'd look at Tyronn Lue stepping up.
Budenholzer in Milwaukee will have won the #1 seed 3 times now (once with Atlanta, and I'm assuming a 2nd time with Milwaukee this year) but hasn't been able to get to the final. I wonder if the Bucks panic if they get beat out in the conference finals again?
I think D'Antoni needs to get at least to the conference final with Houston as well. he'll be rewarded if they win but he's a lame duck who wants more money than ownership wants to part with, so they'll look elsewhere if he doesn't win
Cleveland may stick with Bickerstaff if all goes okay for the rest of the year, but otherwise I'd think they'll look for a former player. Jason Kidd maybe?
Brett Brown won't last in Phila if they don't get past the second round either. no idea who would fit there. but it might be a different GM doing the hire.
Bulls, Knicks? who wants a temporary job where the only guarantee is you won't make it to your next contract?

3.) 24 Feb 2020 01:22:10
The thing with Rivers and Budenhowzer is who are you getting that is better?

Now if you are pulling a Nurse from Toronto, that's one thing. But with the current available coaches, I would run it again.

4.) 24 Feb 2020 17:54:50
I've said the same thing in Portland for 5 years Fredman. Stotts might not be the best coach in the world, but he's a good coach. Finding an upgrade isn't always easy.

Especially with Rivers, I think making a change just to make a change is very short sighted. The only ways I'd move on from him or Budenhowzer is if my star player (s) specifically asked me to.

Phili and Houston making moves makes sense though. They're impatient franchises that are starting to look like they don't have enough to win it all. A coaching move seems like the easiest change.

5.) 25 Feb 2020 00:48:23
It's an interesting question, because sometimes the move you don't make is the one you should have.
Do the Raptors win if they kept Casey (and probably watched Nurse go elsewhere)
I loved Casey as coach and he did win Coach of the Year. but I think the younger voice and willingness to defer to his stars that Nurse brought made a difference.
I don't know if Masai knew what he had or just got lucky.

6.) 25 Feb 2020 18:30:15
Probably 50/ 50 Wind. Masai hoped he had what he had, but realistically, he couldn't have known.

Coaching moves are really hard, that's very clear. A lot depends on who you're getting. Toronto had someone else, so they moved on. If Houston or Phili fires their coach, are they just firing and then searching? If so, you're going into the unknown with little plans outside of "we need a change". Look at the Knicks and the Cleveland Browns as teams that do that all the time. They make changes just to make a change.

7.) 29 Feb 2020 14:08:57
Windrap have your moment. Toronto will never win another title.



04 Feb 2020 18:15:53
Another brilliant move by Dolan... fire the President 2 days before the trade deadline...
not saying he shouldn't change the exec... they're brutal... but the timing is incredibly bad... and certainly won't inspire confidence in his decision-making among any candidates to replace Mills
speculation about Ujiri is just that... the Raps won't release him, won't trade him, and NYK is probably the last job in the world he'd want anyway...
Can someone please tape him making ignorant comments about some group that would give the commissioner a chance to make him sell the franchise? New York deserves better


1.) 05 Feb 2020 01:06:08
Stop going to games. That is what it will take. If fans stop going to games or watching games in the #1 market, Commishioner will have no alternative than to remove the owner.



02 Feb 2020 23:17:01
February 2. Bucks magic number to clinch a playoff spot is 7




01 Feb 2020 20:26:27
Well that's a little embarrassing... Doncic gets hurt maybe opening the door for Booker as an injury replacement... might be a little awkward after ripping other guys who got in ahead of him.... you think Mitchell, Ingram and a few others are going to be happy to see him there?


1.) 01 Feb 2020 20:37:31
Just because you are there doesn't mean you get into the game.

2.) 01 Feb 2020 21:41:56
I still don’t see how Ingram is in.

3.) 01 Feb 2020 23:08:19
Maybe you don't watch him?

4.) 01 Feb 2020 23:32:13
Shiller 25 6 and 4 on 60 percent ts and his team is still in playoff picture.

5.) 02 Feb 2020 04:12:45
Rkeene- ok that good. How bout 27 4 6 with better record That booker.

6.) 02 Feb 2020 13:41:38
I’d be fine with Booker making it.

7.) 03 Feb 2020 02:22:55
I will end the argument. Booker is a guard Ingram is a forward.

Rosters usually follow a 5-5-2 however, the West is already 6-4-2 before trying to add Booker. So the arguement is really who of Paul/ Westbrook/ Donovan are you taking out for Booker.

8.) 03 Feb 2020 16:26:13
Booker over CP3.

9.) 03 Feb 2020 16:39:13
Players are going to vote for their union rep as well as the "rabid" OKC fans. Like to know where Paul ranked against Booker in the fan voting.

10.) 03 Feb 2020 17:02:38
OKC definitely deserves an all star considering how unexpectedly good they’re doing. Booker likely has to make the playoffs to make an all star game without being an injury replacement.



31 Jan 2020 20:39:20
What team do you think is most likely to surprise out of everybody with a big deal or deals at the deadline?

I've got Indiana. They're doing a great job of building, but they're not going to beat the teams ahead of them without a big shakeup. I don't expect them to do a lot, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.


1.) 31 Jan 2020 22:18:51
They could beat anybody in east other than bucks. I think they could make a trade but they don’t need it. They haven’t been healthy all year.

2.) 02 Feb 2020 13:42:05
Orlando always seems to do something big.

3.) 03 Feb 2020 00:09:01
Rockets usually do something when it’s quiet.

4.) 03 Feb 2020 15:42:42
The Rockets would be the least shocking team to make a big move.

On the opposite end, I’ve read Portland is strongly considering doing nothing, which would be a bit shocking.

5.) 04 Feb 2020 02:37:03
Damn, if i'm Dame and they do nothing, I’m livid. I get the injuries, but come on.




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21 Sep 2020 20:39:43
you can't combine a S&T player with another player in a trade. you can attach draft picks to a S&T, but not another player.




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21 Sep 2020 20:29:58
None of these guys moves the needle at all for me, as a Raptors fan who has watched OG a lot over the past few years. OG will be, if he's not already, an elite defender. Toronto is going to need someone who is also a strong defender who provides more offense in order to trade him.
And Lowry is so much more than a shooter. a young shooter won't come close to matching Lowry's contribution of offense and defense.




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20 Sep 2020 12:51:22
Wolves have already traded their 2021 1st to the Warriors.




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19 Sep 2020 19:41:37
salaries don't work
harrell is a free agent and can't be traded.
if it is a sign and trade can't include any other players.




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19 Sep 2020 13:31:28
If that's all they can get for Giannis, even if his agent says he's going to sign with Dallas, they'd still be better off keeping him and trying to win at least once with him. your trades are insultingly unbalanced.





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