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16 Mar 2021 15:17:00
How do you get Barnes to Boston? Trade Thompson to open up space under the hard cap...
Toronto hopes to improve their 5 spot and the Knicks collect picks for taking on expiring salary...
Kings get 2 1sts for Barnes....

Boston gets Barnes
Boston sends Thompson to Toronto, 2022 2nd to Knicks, 2022 and 2024 top 10 protected 1sts for Kings

New York gets Baynes, Davis and 2023 2nd from Toronto, 2022 2nd from Boston (Hornets pick)
New York sends Brazdeikis to Toronto

Toronto gets Thompson from Boston and Brazdeikis from New York
Toronto sends Baynes and Davis to New York, 2023 2nd to New York

Sacramento gets 2022 and 2024 top 10 protected 1sts from Boston
Sacramento sends Barnes to Boston

Too much for Barnes? Maybe the Boston 2022 2nd instead of the 2024 1st?


1.) 16 Mar 2021 16:55:03
Why are the Knicks even here?

2.) 16 Mar 2021 17:57:29
Knicks are hear to eat salary because they have cap space.

3.) 16 Mar 2021 18:37:16
not sure how the protection on 2022 works to not violate Stepien's rule for 2024 pick for starters.

Also, Kings would want one of the picks to be the 2021 first. so if Boston wants to go 2021 + top 10 protected 2024 pick, that is fine.

If it makes it easier, Kings will just take Thompson along with the picks to get under the hard cap. But Boston only needs to give up Neismith's salary to get under the Hard Cap which the Kings would really be interested in (and may make the deal more superior than what other teams are offering for Barnes) .

4.) 16 Mar 2021 20:56:17
could Knicks trade 4 of 6 PGs. Rivers Ntilikina Payton Pinson accept Quickley Rose.



12 Mar 2021 12:15:18
I've seen 2 headlines this morning... Lakers disappointed in Gasol... Lakers want Tucker...


Toronto gives Baynes, Davis, 2025 2nd
Toronto gets Gasol, McKinnie

LA gives Gasol, McKinnie, Matthews, 2023 2nd
LA gets Tucker, Nwaba

HOU gives Tucker, Nwaba
HOU gets Baynes, Davis, Matthews, 2023 LA 2nd, 2025 TOR 2nd


1.) 12 Mar 2021 12:23:10
I think Boston or Phoenix will come in with a first round pick for Tucker.

2.) 12 Mar 2021 13:18:37
Ainge will be tarred and feathered if he gives Houston a 1st round pick for Tucker. Alongside Belichick for signing Cam Newton to a 14 million one year deal.

3.) 12 Mar 2021 13:59:00
Think Boston only Gives a first for grant.

4.) 12 Mar 2021 16:48:09
@windrapsfan no way Houston gets a prospect like Davis for an aging P. J. Tucker.

5.) 12 Mar 2021 22:00:17
@JJ. let me introduce you to the Toronto media, who will not let Davis sleep regardless of the plea deal. I really doubt they will even try to bring him back to Toronto next year. if they can get something for him at the deadline that's a win.



02 Mar 2021 16:43:30

Toronto sends Baynes, McCaw, Johnson and 2021 1st for Valanciunas, Brooks


1.) 02 Mar 2021 17:12:50
Johnson has looked really nice this year.

2.) 02 Mar 2021 23:13:57
Johnson has certainly re-established himself as a bonafide NBA player, and it would hurt to trade him from that sense, but his salary would be needed to make it work.
I can't see Jonas alone being worth a 1st (for Toronto, at this time, thought admittedly some GM might think different) but he and Brooks would slide into the 8 man playoff rotation, where Johnson would only be a depth piece.
Hard to find a 5 upgrade out there who is available and can fit into Raptors salary situation, and fit the Raptors style wise. Horford maybe, but Toronto couldn't handle his salary without giving up a key rotation piece. Jonas is probably the best fit
Would Memphis do this trade?

3.) 03 Mar 2021 01:27:42
We’ll pass.

4.) 03 Mar 2021 11:36:01
Looks terrible for Memphis.

5.) 03 Mar 2021 12:02:42
C'mon, Memphis fans. Like I said, Johnson is a nice piece, Baynes might just need a change of scenery (and he's better playing off the bench anyway), McCaw is a super versatile defender, and you get a 1st!

6.) 03 Mar 2021 19:42:32
I love the resurgence of borderline nba players, has homer Raptors fans thinking he got trade value.



21 Feb 2021 00:43:14
Raptors - Houston

Houston sends Tucker and Cousins to Toronto

Toronto sends Baynes, Davis, Thomas, 2021 1st, 2023 2nd to Houston

If Houston prefers they can substitute Watson for Davis or Thomas.

If Houston prefers they can have Flynn and a 2025 2nd instead of this year's 1st.

Van Vliet






27 Jan 2021 13:51:37
This trade can't happen until March 1, but.... if the Raptors have solved their problems other than the 5, and if Boogie shows he can play regularly and effectively by then....

Toronto sends Baynes, Davis, Thomas and a 2021 1st to Houston for Cousins and Tucker


1.) 27 Jan 2021 14:32:35
That's a no from us.

2.) 27 Jan 2021 18:06:11
Not exactly sure where you expect to get better at the 5 if you are Toronto. McGee is the only prime candidate right now.

Maybe something will materialize at the trade deadline, but that may be a little too late in the season for this move.

3.) 27 Jan 2021 18:26:45
You're probably right, Fredman, but the Raps will want to move Baynes out if they can find a better option at the 5, and he can't be traded until feb 23. boogie can't go til march 1. lots could change by then. baynes could figure out the toronto defense and become a contributor, or the raps could fall out to the point of looking for longer term deals at the deadline. if cousins is 70% of his former self that's still better than most of the 5 options out there.




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11 Apr 2021 02:31:31
How much is Richaun Holmes going to cost next season?
Is there a price that Cleveland won't match for Allen?
Would Memphis trade Jonas?
Or is New Freddie the Raptors future 5?


1.) 11 Apr 2021 12:20:58
My guess is multi-year around $15 mil per year for Holmes. That would put him in Clint Capela salary range.

There are reports that Holmes is very open to resigning with Sacramento because he is tired of hopping from team to team. And with the Kings being short on big men, they are going to give him a pretty good offer.

2.) 11 Apr 2021 13:11:32
1. New Freddie is a forward.
2. Fredman, the Raptors have about 23 million in cap space if they waive Lowry's cap hold, resign Stanley Johnson to the minimum, keep Watanabe's and Trent's cap holds, and exercise team options on Boucher and Bembry. Presumably, we could offer about 17-20 million per year.

3.) 11 Apr 2021 14:21:01
@Darry, what is the cap hold for your lottery pick? $5.3 mil was the cap hold for last years #7 selection. What is the cap hold for vacant roster spots? about another $4.0 mil (seems like 4 spots) .

so take off about $9 mil in your initial estimation of Toronto's cap space at the start of Free Agency.

Are you really going to sign Holmes if you draft Kai Jones in the lottery?

4.) 11 Apr 2021 16:54:53
I counted the rookie's cap hold in the calculation.

5.) 11 Apr 2021 16:55:30
Also, not going to draft Jones at 8. Maybe if we trade down, but I'd rather go for BPA.

6.) 12 Apr 2021 12:25:38
@fredman. aren't the Kings resticted on how much of a raise they can offer Holmes?
I agree with Darry on $23M number if we renounce Lowry, Baines, Hood, Johnson and Ponds. that should leave lots to offer Holmes his $15M and keep Birch as the backup 5, Boucher as backup 4.
Darry I was only kidding about New Freddie getting overexcited about his first game, where he did look promising. I think the Raptors will keep him as the third 5. whether he's got traditional size or not that's where Nick is playing him.
I'm thinking Holmes, Allen or Valanciunas are the most logical sign or trade targets to solve the big problem in the lineup. who am i missing?

7.) 12 Apr 2021 17:32:42
@windrapsfan. Nice Job. I had assumed that the Kings have full Bird rights on Holmes. But upon further research, the Kings only have early Bird rights because Holmes only signed a two-year deal with the Kings. The projected max for next year's early bird exception is $10.3 mil. The Kings could still offer Holmes an extension before the end of the season I believe. Can't seem to find any deadline listed for this kind of extension.

Enes Kanter is in a similar spot with Portland. Drummond since the Lakers will have no rights nor cap space.

Valanciunas is under contract for next year. So is Memphis trading him to Toronto? It is not like Memphis needs to salary dump him.

This is the primary reason I do not see Kai Jones getting past Toronto or Sacramento at pick #7 or pick #8.

8.) 12 Apr 2021 23:17:38
If Cavs beat writers are to be believed, the Cavs are willing to match anything for Allen and he’s currently the Cavs most untouchable player.



02 Apr 2021 01:32:27
So here's my BOLD prediction (or delusional dream) for the Raptors off season.
It begins with the #4 Clippers losing in the first round to the #5 Lakers. (not likely, but possible) It carries on to PG13, after another brutal performance, deflects criticism by throwing shade at Kawhi. So Kawhi says screw you guys i'm going home and opts out of his deal. Remembering fondly his last days of happiness, he calls his friend Kyle Lowry and says "What's up?

next thing you know their agents have put together a sign and trade of siakam and baynes for kawhi... who brings back old friend Serge on the MLE.

Not likely... but more realistic than a ringring trade lol


1.) 02 Apr 2021 13:55:38
You don’t think it’s likely for Lakers to win 1st round?

2.) 02 Apr 2021 14:14:30
I think Lakers would have problems with Utah and Denver if they have to go on the road. The plus playing the Clippers in the first round is that they stay at home.

3.) 02 Apr 2021 17:49:44
Lebron and AD will be healthy in playoffs. Nuggets don’t have Grant to guard Lebron. Jazz usually not good in playoffs.

4.) 02 Apr 2021 20:58:48
@NBA16 - I think it unlikely that the Lakers/ Clippers finish 4 and 5, but it is possible.



26 Mar 2021 15:14:52
Are the Clippers going to get the Boston/LALakers Rondo or the Dallas/Atlanta Rondo?


1.) 26 Mar 2021 16:36:53
check out stats of regular season Rondo vs. playoff Rondo.

I think "Playoff P" needs to pass off his nickname.

2.) 27 Mar 2021 01:46:33
@Fredman - If I were a Clipper fan I'd sure be hoping Playoff Rondo isn't the one from his Dallas playoff performance.

3.) 27 Mar 2021 05:11:06
Wind- thought they sat him and he didn’t play in playoffs.

4.) 27 Mar 2021 12:17:21
he basically quit on them in game 2 of the series, and Dallas decided they'd had enough
Rondo can be great or he can be horrible depending on his attitude and comfort in his situation. LeBron's leadership made the question moot for the Lakers, but I don't see Kawhi or PG as the kind of leader who can correct things if Rondo's attitude isn't right.



12 Feb 2021 21:11:45
A question for Fredman, or any one else who knows the answer... what are the rules around possibly trading a 2 way contract?... can you sign them to an nba deal and trade them right away? do you then have to follow s&t rules? or would you have to wait? I'm thinking of the Raptors Watanabe... he's on a 2 way. Can he be converted to a guaranteed contract and traded right away?


1.) 13 Feb 2021 04:02:28
Can he be converted and traded right away?

No. 3 month wait or on Dec 15th (in a normal season) whichever is latter.

You can trade a 2-way contract as a 2-way but the number of days that player has been in the NBA does not reset. Not sure how much trade value a player has with only 2 weeks of NBA time left on contract.

2.) 13 Feb 2021 13:32:50
Thanks Fred. Watanabe has been really pretty good and played solid defense so far but might make an interesting chip for a deal to improve. hoping he might be an acceptable alternative to any team looking at taking Flynn away as part of a deal.



27 Jan 2021 15:33:10
Just saw this on SB Nation.... which
(if any) of these trades for Lonzo Ball would you do?

Clippers - Beverly for Ball
Warriors - Oubre for Ball and Melli
Bulls - Ball and a pick for Markkanen
Raptors - Ball for Powell and Davis
Dallas - Ball for Powell and a pick

They don't specify what the picks will be, but the Pelicans shelves are well stocked if needed...


1.) 27 Jan 2021 18:13:11
not a big fan for acquiring Lonzo. Just hasn't really showed me anything over the last 4 years.

2.) 27 Jan 2021 18:31:27
I’ve seen a Hood and a second for Ball idea floated around. I like it for Portland. Lonzo could run the second unit and/ or play with either of the starting guards.

Seems like a light return for NO though. I guess if they like Hood.

3.) 27 Jan 2021 19:44:16
The Clippers should try that.

4.) 30 Jan 2021 15:54:24
From Pels POV

Clippers - Beverly for Ball Fifth
Warriors - Oubre for Ball and Melli best
Bulls - Ball and a pick for Markkanen 2nd
Raptors - Ball for Powell and Davis 3rd
Dallas - Ball for Powell and a pick fourth.




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15 May 2021 20:16:22
Rivers is a free agent, and I'd rather keep Bembry anyways. but why would you want to exercise Baynes' option instead of signing Birch. I think I'd rather have Gillespie as my backup 5 than Baynes. he's done.




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14 May 2021 11:53:32
Don't they have to sign Trent first? And doesn't that make it a sign and trade? And doesn't that mean you can't add another player into the deal?
I don't think the value is bad, but it can't happen that way. maybe Trent alone into Knick's cap space, then another deal with Fred for Barrett. but I prefer Darry's original idea of trading Fred to the Pacers. but I'd want Turner instead of Brogdon, and then resign Lowry for 2 years at 25M each.
In a VanVleet for Turner deal what else would need to be included?




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11 May 2021 17:51:15
Whaddya think, Gasupo? . I'm guessing Indy doesn't like this deal. and I don't think you'll get Fournier for the MLE.




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07 May 2021 15:05:31
agree with Darry. we'll cheer loud and strong for Wiggins when he's wearing a Canada jersey at the Olympics, but don't really want him on the Raptors.




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04 May 2021 13:02:03
Green has a player option and McGee is unsigned so he can't be traded by the Nuggets.





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