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13 Nov 2020 03:29:21
Thunder get wiggins and minny 2021 first.

Clippers get paul and pick two plus future first from warriors.

Warriors get George

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1.) 13 Nov 2020 03:45:46
Laughable.


2.) 13 Nov 2020 04:06:01
George has one year left on his deal, right?


 

 

07 Nov 2020 17:27:53
Sign and trade Ingram for Wiggins and Rights to warriors 2020 first and the wolves 2021.. the pelicans wanna build around Zion and this will be a great start. They get a great pick to pair with Zion for the next 8 years. Then move holiday to get even more future help or go for a proven young player. This warriors best chance to move forward and getting out of Wiggins and getting to the finals

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1.) 07 Nov 2020 17:54:24
Where will they trade green?


2.) 07 Nov 2020 19:50:48
Hahahahahahahaha It takes the 2nd pick just to move Wiggins.So basically you give Jrue the value of a late lottery pick

Absurd would be putting it mildly


3.) 07 Nov 2020 21:40:28
DAC: that’s not close to true. The second pick has way more value than Wiggins has negative value.


4.) 07 Nov 2020 23:41:14
Bmiller not this year.


5.) 08 Nov 2020 00:39:45
Wiggins is good to a team who has lots of young players and can afford to pay him. While there youngs develop and let him walk when he expire.


6.) 08 Nov 2020 00:41:17
Like the pelicans it's worth to pay him to pair Zion with the second pick in the 2020 draft.


7.) 08 Nov 2020 02:06:38
Wiggins is not the Player to put by Zion. That’s insanity if you put him anywhere near your young core


8.) 08 Nov 2020 04:34:50
In my opinion, Wiggins only fits teams like Charlotte, Detroit or even Orlando? Teams who can give a chance to a player like him and let him develop.


 

 

01 Nov 2020 17:35:40
Horford plus philly 2021 and thunder 2021 plus philly 2023 unprotected first for westbrook, paul, holiday, or wall but they would have add another small contract for either player expect holiday

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30 Oct 2020 06:37:07
Magic get Horford and 2 first thunder and philly 2021. philly gets gordon and Ross. Philly get out of horford and get good pieces to compliment Embiid Harris and Simmons.

Warriors get vuc and Aminu
Magic get wiggins and wolves pick

Magic now have 4 first round picks in 2021 along with issac and mo. plus a good chance to get a top 5 pick in 2021

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1.) 30 Oct 2020 09:40:05
No I’m not taking Al Horford contract.


2.) 30 Oct 2020 21:37:31
Yeah horford contract bad and so iswiggins but those two together will lose enough games for magic to get two good picks in 2021 and 2022 then those expire and they either trade for more bad contracts and picks unless one the players they draft turns to be a star then u trade those expiring contracts plus other picks for another star to pair with the star they have from drafting.


3.) 30 Oct 2020 22:23:48
Throw in 2 pick for magic too than u have a dead if not magic going to say no.


 

 

27 Oct 2020 01:57:12
Knicks get Wiggins second pick, wolves pick 2021 and warriors get Robinson and Randle plus pick 8

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1.) 27 Oct 2020 03:57:55
Nobody wants randle Robinson plays 25 minutes a night because he is always in foul trouble. Bad deal for gsw.


2.) 27 Oct 2020 04:20:26
Warriors get ripped off. Throw in Barrett and it’s a discussion.


3.) 27 Oct 2020 04:47:45
Wlthout minny pick it is not enough.


 

 

 

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22 Nov 2020 07:25:44
Great defense wins championships not good shooting

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1.) 22 Nov 2020 08:14:13
What?


2.) 22 Nov 2020 16:32:40
So the Lakers are less likely to win the championship by swapping rondo and Howard for Schroeder and Harrell?


3.) 22 Nov 2020 17:49:08
I think a little of both wins championships.


4.) 22 Nov 2020 19:08:34
Lakers shooting was not that good. Rondo and Howard defense not reason lakers won Caruso and ad defense was more important and better then rondo and Howard. Only person I hate see go is Bradley. Harrell plays good defense better then rondo and Howard at this point in there careers. Matthews can replace green the Lakers are looking better then last year.

Dennis/ Caruso
Pope/ Matthews
James/ Horton
Davis/ kuz
McGee/ Harrell.


 

 

19 Nov 2020 00:49:10
Remember what I said about Williams look he went number 4. Good pick Cavs

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1.) 19 Nov 2020 11:50:10
He went to bulls.


2.) 19 Nov 2020 12:37:56
Def thought Deni would've been taken earlier.


 

 

16 Nov 2020 17:45:17
Like I said the thunder are not giving up nothing to get rid of Paul and there actually getting something for him. People say it's going to take picks for the thunder to offload him cause he overpaid. Naw he not overpaid he just not worth to give up a haul cause his age.

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1.) 16 Nov 2020 18:27:48
And Phoenix is stupid for doing this trade. No nice way to say it, this is a massive mistake.


2.) 16 Nov 2020 18:31:31
And yeah, he’s still massively overpaid. He’s one of the top 5 or so paid players in the league. And he’s not a #1 option on a championship team.


3.) 16 Nov 2020 18:32:38
It would have last year. He has one less year on his deal, stayed healthy, and played well. Values are fluid.


4.) 16 Nov 2020 19:35:51
I agree with suns even if they hey fail what they gave up was worth Paul for a year. Just like what Toronto did with Leonard worth it no matter what for a year. They give up a pick for Paul and everything else holds no real value. Paul not overpaid he just not worth a lot of future assets which suns didn’t give up.


5.) 16 Nov 2020 21:49:57
He's overpaid, old and can break down instantly, yes, but you can't change the fact that Presti still pulls off the best they can get for Paul it means someone values him more than what you guys think. Saying that it's a massive mistake this early is not proper. It's still 50-50. Suns are desperate and it shows. Maybe Paul can teach the young guys in Phoenix.


6.) 16 Nov 2020 22:46:53
If Houston trades harden the picks okc got for Russ look even better now.


 

 

15 Nov 2020 17:06:21
I take Dennis over Danny

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1.) 15 Nov 2020 18:08:54
Doesnt' really matter. It still comes down to the health of Lebron and A. Davis.


2.) 15 Nov 2020 19:55:14
Need to hope that Rondo and Bradley stays. Looks like KCP will be on his way out too by wanting a big contract.


3.) 16 Nov 2020 01:49:24
I hope they keep Bradley.


4.) 16 Nov 2020 01:50:38
Does matter cause fEnnis can score and Danny can’t when those two need a break.


 

 

02 Nov 2020 04:53:55
Boston has 5 years to compete before Tatum is an unrestricted free agent. Does anyone see Boston Being real contenders. They need to make a big trade using heyward and picks to get the big man they need. Walker brown Tatum thesis/Williams can play 1-4 but they need a true center with a defensive 6th man in smart who can start if needed. They have three picks and all future picks i'm sure they can get a quality big man for that.

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1.) 02 Nov 2020 05:32:01
If Brown keeps playing like a near all star and Tatum moves up to a top 5-8 player, yeah, they’re contenders.


2.) 02 Nov 2020 08:13:43
I don't see That happening in next 5 years.


3.) 02 Nov 2020 08:14:45
There pretenders and Miami exposed them and at times Raptors did too.


4.) 02 Nov 2020 12:27:25
At times?


5.) 02 Nov 2020 14:00:54
Tatum is 22. By the time he’s 25, he should be a top 5 player. If he is, they’re contenders. If he’s not, they’re not and nothing can change that fact. You need a top 5 player to contend.

A good big man is helpful, but not necessary. Miami doesn’t feel sustainable. Toronto isn’t close to contending. The Bucks are great, but who knows what happens with Giannis. Boston seems primed to be the best team in the East for the next 5 years if Giannis leave Milwaukee.

Even if Hayward walks, they still have two stars that are in their early 20’s and a 30 year old all star. I’d take that situation any day.


6.) 02 Nov 2020 14:34:08
"Toronto isn't close to contending"
We were close to beating the Celtics. We have one of the only defenses in the league to take down LeBron+AD. The only big obstacle in our way was Miami.
This year FVV's defense will contain Curry. OG is more than capable to defend LeBron, Durant, and Kawhi.

Tell me again we're not close to contending.


7.) 02 Nov 2020 16:01:16
Because Toronto doesn’t have a superstar. Teams without superstars to take over a series don’t win championships. You can win a couple of series, but winning a ring is almost completely out of the question.

It has happened once in my lifetime (Detroit) . That’s the only championship won without a legitimate hall of fame caliber superstar leading a team.

You can make any logical argument you want, but at some point those really great role players will do what role players do and struggle, and you’ll require a superstar to carry you. Case in point: Toronto over the last decade. Their one big playoff run was when they had a top 5 player. Every other year has been incredibly successful, but had little to no hope to actually win it all.


8.) 02 Nov 2020 16:27:52
Bmiller is right on that Darry. Toronto needs a genuine star to be considered a true contender. that's why they are saving their cap space until next year. they've finally become a destination that stars will at least consider with the success they've had lately and with Masai and Nurse. I know there are some American players who won't want to come to Toronto, but international players know that Toronto is one of the most diverse cities in the world, and that doesn't hurt at all.
I won't believe any Toronto trade proposal here that takes away that space for next season unless its for a top5 (or a soon to be top5) who becomes available early.


9.) 02 Nov 2020 17:41:05
"Toronto doesn't have a superstar"
I'm sick of that sentence. S. I. C. K.
You don't need a superstar to win. You literally just stated an example.
And I notice you didn't contradict any of my logic.

One more point: defense. If another team has a star, and defense shuts him down, then according to your logic, they can't win. Which means the other team wins.
Well, Nick Nurse has one of the best defensive systems, one of the best defensive teams, and one of the best defenders in the freaking league (Anunoby) .


10.) 02 Nov 2020 18:50:48
I stated one example in 30 years. One. I think Toronto’s last decade is a much better example.

If you want more reasons: Lowry is on the decline, Ibaka likely leaves, Gasol seems gone (and maybe retired), and there’s no guarantee FVV doesn’t take the money somewhere else. Toronto’s worst case scenario offseason leads to all of those guys gone and missing the playoffs. I don’t expect that, but it’s not crazy to think that could happen.


11.) 02 Nov 2020 19:03:10
Darry, accept it. Toronto is back where they originally at. A regular season beast but falters in the playoffs. No matter how many arguments you make (understandable because you are a big fan), you can't change the fact that teams who won the last 15 championships have a superstar level talent in them. The last time i saw a team without a superstar was way back 2004 (Detroit Pistons) .


12.) 02 Nov 2020 20:19:01
The last time before that was? The 1990 pistons (who had 3 hall of famers)? 1979 Sonics (multiple hall of famers) .

I don’t see what’s so wrong with being simply really good. It’s not an indictment on Toronto, but proof of how incredibly hard it is to win in the NBA. Championship or bust is dumb and just leaves people disappointed.


13.) 02 Nov 2020 21:21:57
In defense of Darry and the phrase "close to contending" I'd suggest that if Kawhi had stayed the Raptors would have been favored to repeat. and if they keep Fred and Serge, and get Giannis, they'll be favored to win it again. and you can't tell me that if Giannis goes to Charlotte they'll be contenders. so I would have to say that being one player short of a favorite would qualify as being close to contending.


14.) 02 Nov 2020 23:47:44
"Lowry is on the decline"
That's what everyone said last year.
Let me repeat: we have defense. When we had DeRozan, our defense was subpar. Our current roster and playstyle is very different from the 2010s.
And: I offer Ibaka a one year 23 million contract+Bonuses+team option for 2021 (26 million) . Beat that.


15.) 03 Nov 2020 00:11:32
But being one top 8 player away is a loooooong way away. Half the league is that close. Add Giannis to Portland and they’re the favorites. Or Houston. Or Denver. Or Utah.


16.) 03 Nov 2020 00:45:15
I don't see Tatum being top 5 in 3 years maybe top ten.


17.) 03 Nov 2020 14:09:07
answer to bmiller is that there are at least 14 teams that could add Giannis or Kawho or LBJ and still not sniff the finals. any team that can be one of the favorites by adding one player is close to contending.


18.) 03 Nov 2020 14:54:21
What 14? If you added Lebron/ Kawhi/ Giannis to any team in the west (zero exceptions), I think that team is a top 3 seed and championship contender.

I just don’t think that many teams are close to adding a guy like that. Again, use Toronto as an example. Sure, they added one, but they lost him after one season. Who is the best FA Toronto has ever signed? It’s definitely not a superstar.


19.) 03 Nov 2020 15:12:49
We are not close to contending. we ARE contending. Counter my logic and then disprove it.


20.) 03 Nov 2020 16:29:00
You got me. Toronto is a contender. I concede.

Toronto, Utah, Denver, Houston, Portland, Boston, Miami, both LA’s, Milwaukee, and GS are contenders.


21.) 03 Nov 2020 18:01:08
Toronto has the defense to take down almost all if not all of those teams.


22.) 03 Nov 2020 22:35:07
If I'm a Raptors fan, I'll be proud with you Darry.
Now let's see how the Raptors will do this offseason.


23.) 04 Nov 2020 23:04:11
What? Why the disagrees?
DO I really need to repeat myself? Anunoby can shut down LeBron, Kawhi, PG, and other forwards. VanVleet is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league, with excellent performances against Curry and Dame.


 

 

 

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27 Nov 2020 19:31:46
Knicks need to develop Barrett and Robinson to see there potential so maybe a star will join them next year.

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27 Nov 2020 18:38:34
Because J. Jackson going to turn into a star 😂😂😂.

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25 Nov 2020 07:48:00
Dallas will have to give to expiring contracts what’s the point giving a pick when they can sign him.

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23 Nov 2020 17:51:46
I think atl can have a better package and so can Philly. Give up Simmons and 4 first.

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23 Nov 2020 17:38:07
This ain’t bad for Boston like swap smart for Gordon. Might not be the best but it’s not bad for Boston.

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