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15 May 2019 04:32:11
Knicks/ Hawks

To NYK - Picks 8 and 10, Prince

To ATL - Picks 3 and 55, Ntilikina

With the Knicks landing at number 3, if they don’t love Barrett and don’t see a deal for a Superstar using this pick, why not move it for additional quality assets. They land two additional you g pieces and a 3 and D wing.

Hawks apparently love Culver, but he won’t be on the board at 8. With the likelihood being that Zion and Ja go one and two, Hawks move up to get the guy they like. They also take a chance on a needed backup PG in Frank and pick up a 2nd as well.

Knicks could still deal these picks along with other assets, or take Reddish and Doumbouya as an example.

Triangle O

1.) 15 May 2019 05:11:39
Very believable. The Knicks should be really concerned with fit for the guys they’ve got coming. The best guys on the board at that point will either be a true lead guard or RJ who’s just as ball dominant. 8 and 10 let's you focus on picking up puzzle pieces to put with Superstars.


 

 

26 Apr 2019 10:40:40
Raps/ Clips

To TOR - Gallo, Robinson, 2020 Philly 1st

To LAC - S&T Leonard

If the Raps have it on good authority that Claw is going to leave to sign in LA, pitching an S&T that nets him the extra year and dollars may be attractive for both parties.

Clips move Gallo’s contract, which definitely opens up another max slot and additional money even after landing their top target.

Raps get a young player in Robinson and a pick. Gallo’s contract is expiring, so it lines up perfectly time wise with Lowry, Serge and Gasol’s deals to clear 90% of their cap space at the end of next year and go total rebuild.

Triangle O

1.) 26 Apr 2019 13:12:58
I’m pretty sure you can’t give the extra year in a s and t.


2.) 26 Apr 2019 16:16:24
It also doesn't matter. Anything more than 2 years will be supermax extension time.


 

 

25 Mar 2019 01:31:29
Spurs/ Jazz

To UTA - LMA

To SAS - Favors, 2019 1st (currently #19)

Draft day trade that sees the Spurs grab a third 1st round pick for this year. They take back the lesser player, but have the option of keeping him or not.

Jazz have not been able to play Favors and Rudy together, but Aldridge is the perfect fit beside him. Gobert can cover up for LMA’s defensive shortcomings, and LMA can step away from the basket and shoot in the mid-range. Jazz are looking for another scorer, and their most needed position is PF. They are not a Free Agent destination, so landing Aldridge without having to give up anything from their core is about the best they are likely to do.

Spurs draft:

Naz Reid
Sekou Doumboya
Kris Wilkes

There is also the potential of dealing two or all three of these picks to move up in the draft.

Triangle O

1.) 25 Mar 2019 03:33:43
Jazz need a guard not an old mid range big.


2.) 25 Mar 2019 11:40:25
It's a good fit. I like Randle there more as a real PF, rather than replacing Favors with another C that isn't much of a 3 shooter.


3.) 25 Mar 2019 12:59:36
You guys are missing the point. Aldridge is way better than Favors. They are not even close. Besides Aldridge plays th whole season. Favors gets hurt every year.


4.) 25 Mar 2019 15:23:19
I think you should check the stats and defensive numbers for Favors this season. He's far and away a better defender than Aldridge has ever been, and his +|- has been around 22 all-year long. The defense is huge when comparing Centers. Rim protection. James gets away with not playing D and getting best player in the NBA nods @ SF still, but Aldridge is lousy on D, like James, always has been disinterested in playing it.


5.) 25 Mar 2019 16:35:45
Spurs say no. They can get more for Aldridge if they want to trade him. For example a POR deal that would send them a pick, Collins and other young player.


6.) 25 Mar 2019 16:38:30
But Utah is an elite defensive team with the best defender in the NBA. Of all the teams in the league that could use a offensive minded PF, it’s them.


7.) 25 Mar 2019 18:28:14
Aldridge is good in Utah, he just isn't a far better player or value than Favors. Utah could sign one of many other PF's available for less, and Favors goes looking for a team, and ends up in San Antonio on the Gasol space. Pop doesn't trade to the west either.
Who knows? Love is good too, but terrible financially.


 

 

04 Feb 2019 23:39:19
Bucks/ Knicks

To MIL - Vonleh

To NYK - Wood, 2020 2nd (via Washington)

Bucks are said to be looking for a front court piece before Thursday. Vonleh is a nice fit and quality piece for the balance of the season.

Wood is expiring, and the Knicks get a decent 2nd, which is about what Vonleh is worth.

Triangle O

1.) 05 Feb 2019 00:32:49
Take out Wood, and put in Maker!


2.) 05 Feb 2019 02:41:56
Sixers will give us 1st for Vonleh.


3.) 05 Feb 2019 04:14:52
Firstly, shizzee, I am also a Knicks fan.

Secondly, as good of a season as Noah has had, he’s still a rotation player on an expiring deal. Think it will be hard to find anyone willling to give up a first for him.


 

 

03 Feb 2019 05:01:32
Knicks/ Sixers

To NYK - Chandler, Muscala, 2019 2nd via SAC, 2021 2nd back (originally Knicks)

To PHI - Matthews, Vonleh

Knicks keep cap space and pick up a couple of 2nds.

Philly gets much needed shooting and an backup big man upgrade.

Triangle O

1.) 03 Feb 2019 05:28:18
Matthews can't be traded with another player in any trades.


2.) 03 Feb 2019 05:43:01
My bad, I knew that.


3.) 03 Feb 2019 06:12:04
Would be a pretty good deal if he could tho.


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2019 12:08:30
No way NO accepts that offer, and Dallas will not give up Doncic to get AD.

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13 May 2017 17:09:20
Spurs offseason

Personally, I don't think Tony's retiring, so I'm basing this post around him still being with the team:

1) Gasol declines $16M player option, resigns for 2 yrs, $22M ($11M AAV)

2) Ginobli staves off retirement for one more year, signs 1 yr, $5M

3) Lee opts in to player option

4) Dedmon declines player option and walks.

5) Mills walks

5) Spurs draft Mathais Lessort # 29, deal 2nd round pick for a future 2nd

6) Sign with cap space Kelly Olynik 2 yrs, $12.5M

7) Use vet exception on Shaun Livingston. If Warriors are most likely not going to have the ability to sign him. Him, Ginobli and Murray cover until Parker returns, and allows to play Parker less minutes once he's back.

8) Resign Simmons 3 yrs, $22M.

Triangle O

1.) 16 May 2017 18:15:46
Celtics would match that offer for Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2017 16:58:22
Three team deal:

To CLE - Melo, Nelson

To DEN - Love, Rockets 2nd (via NYK)

To NYK - Faried, 2017 MEM 1st (via DEN), Shumpert

If Melo is going to waive his no trade,
Cleveland would be one of the few places he would agree to go. The Cavs also add a quality backup PG and clear about $5M of cap spend off their books to help with luxury tax payments.

Denver is looking for a star, and they get one in Love.

Knicks add a quality PF that would allow Zinger to spend more minutes at the five. A pick and a much needed wing defender also come New York's way.

Triangle O

1.) 22 Jan 2017 17:23:44
Have that 2nd rd pick from NY go to Cleveland instead


2.) 22 Jan 2017 20:21:15
This just makes Cavs worse and Nuggets get a steal. Cavs aren't going to shake things up this late and Love is better suited as a 3rd option than Melo and provides rebounding and passing. It took two entire seasons for Love to adjust to the role and I think it would be even worse for Melo. Yes they add a backup pg but the lose Shumpert and their wing depth is already weak with JR injured.


3.) 22 Jan 2017 21:06:45
Terrible trade for the Cavs. Love fits the Cavs far better than Melo, is younger, and makes less money. Shumpert is a better and younger player than Nelson and there are free agent point guards that are just as good as Nelson. Denver gives up almost nothing for Love.


 

 

24 Mar 2016 21:46:17
LeBron's dream scenario:

After LBJ's "Dream Team" comments, I looked around the NBA for a team that has the potential to make it happen. I came up with two possibilities, and both are below:

The LA Clippers

Paul is already there, so that takes care of one issue. To get Melo there would be easy, a Melo for Griffin deal or multi-team deal that moves Griffin out and Melo in.

Bron could get there via sign and trade, as Cleveland would most likely be willing to take back Jordan if LBJ forced the issue of an S&T.

Getting Wade is a bit more difficult, but again, if he requested an S&T from the Heat, and taking a pay cut to $10-$12M a year could work if the Heat have interest in J. J., which may not be far fetched. Both Wade and Melo's wives are Hollywood types, so living in L. A. would most likely be good with everyone.

Miami Heat

While it's crazy to think that LBJ would go back, it could be possible.

The Heat have approximately $45M to spend this offseason. If Wade and LBJ would be willing to split up $30M of that (Wade $12M, LBJ $18M), the Heat still have a decent amount of wiggle room.

To get Melo, I don't think it would be difficult to convince the Knicks to take a Melo for Dragic swap (some smaller pieces could or don't need to be added) .

Getting Paul is considerably more difficult. Two options are a multi team deal that sees Bosh and Winslow go out, Winslow to LAC, and Bosh to? That could stir up enough assets to send to LAC for Paul. The other option is just wait until next offseason for Paul and sign him (ETO for 17-18 season would need to be taken) .

I hate LBJ, so I don care to see him get what he wants, but thought it would be fun to run with his comments.

Thoughts?

Triangle O

1.) 25 Mar 2016 00:31:14
Or kyrie for paul. Love to Celtics bkn pick to Knicks and Melo to cavs (bits and pieces will of course be included) . Trade shumpert and frye as a salary dump. Sign wade and resign lebron.


2.) 25 Mar 2016 01:08:15
League sucks if they allow players to pull this stuff again.


3.) 25 Mar 2016 01:45:43
If I was Jim buss, I would tell the league that the trades would be unfair and creating a super team. Espically if it's the cavs to let them know how they like it.


4.) 25 Mar 2016 13:35:18
The league's got to be about competitive balance, not team stacking. The league has to approve all trades and contracts. I don't know exactly how they would stop this but the word "collusion" comes to mind. Teams cannot collude so players should be able to either. What James, Wade and Bosh did in Miami was wrong. Lesson learned. It should never happen again.

I know its a "players' league. " But there has to be limitations.


5.) 25 Mar 2016 14:09:09
I agree.


6.) 25 Mar 2016 15:34:19
I guess the one way the league could stop this would be if the owners forced a lock-out. Besides the team getting all the stars, I can't see anyone other owner in the league allowing this to happen.

Its inverse tanking. They modified the draft so that teams couldn't tank and be guaranteed the top pick. Maybe they'll need to come up with a free agency equivalent.


7.) 25 Mar 2016 18:52:05
What would happen if your team drafted all the players and they turned to stars.


8.) 25 Mar 2016 19:30:37
Drafted? I'd be fine with that. There's no organized collusion in that case.
What Bron's talking about is collusion.


9.) 25 Mar 2016 22:41:27
You should look up the definition of collusion.

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

He isn't cheating or deceiving. He just wants to play with his friends. Take less money. Win championships. No one complained when he did it with miami 5 years ago. why is it an issue now? It won't happen. If it did, it simply shows a lack of confidence or ability to win on your opwn. Nothing illegal. look at duncan or nowitski, neiother makes what their actual worth is. they took payh cuts to sign better players. but that's fine. once lebron wants to do it, with 3 others, its an issue. when he did it with 2 others, nol biggie. come on, just let things happen.

besides, i'd still bet on the warriors beating them. remember when the lakers snagged payton and malone? howd that turn out?


10.) 26 Mar 2016 12:45:27
I should look up "collusion"? "It is an agreement among firms or individuals to divide a market, set prices, limit production or limit opportunities. "

And you know darn well exactly what I'm getting at- an organized attempt to upset the competitive balance in the league. Call it whatever you want. Its clearly against the best interest of the league.

As for your claim that nobody complained over the Miami thing, that's not correct. It was brought up in the Owners Meeting in which they discussed player-player tampering. That was reported in the NY Times.


 

 

15 Feb 2016 20:35:44
Knicks/ Raptors

To TOR - Lance Thomas

To NYK - Delon Wright

Raptors are looking for both another wing and a PF. Thomas is a good addition based on his floor spacing and defense. He's also an expiring deal, meaning he contributes this year, especially with Carroll out a while longer, and the Raptors are not tied to his number next year.

Wright won't see the court in T. O. With Lowry and Joseph ahead of him on the depth chart. Knicks need a PG, why not give Delon a try.

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19 May 2019 14:01:47
I think he’s trying to figure out if 1st DP is the first overall pick, which I gather that’s what you meant.

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19 May 2019 13:58:26
JoeB, not Ben, Jonathan Simmons.

Iffy is much more valuable to the Dubs. The guy steps up huge every spring.

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19 May 2019 13:56:06
Collins is a star, why would they give up the far better player for the “privilege” of moving down 8 spots in the draft?!

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18 May 2019 18:07:06
I don’t see Klay coming to Boston, and Pels will be looking for more.

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18 May 2019 12:56:43
Honestly, if Knicks have to give up that much, then no. Not saying that other than Robinson that there is another potential star in this group, but this would literally leave them with three roster players, both of the other two with team options. Add KD and Kyrie, how do you fill out 8 more positions with no money and expect to be deep enough to really compete.

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