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18 Jul 2018 18:38:15
Atlanta sends- Dennis Schroder, Mike Muscala or Dewayne Dedmon

OKC sends- Carmelo Anthony, 2 first round picture (year and protection can be there) or a first and 2 second round picks.

ATL pros- get to move on from schroder give young the keys. get picks and free up future cap space.

OKC pros- free up immediate cap thus less luxury tax, get a solid back up pg for when russ is off the court whos is better than felton, as well as whichever center they get being a good backup center or pf as both can shoot and are good at rebounding which will help their bench depth.

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15 May 2018 23:06:01
Hawks receive Courtney lee (contract 12.25 mill) and Emmanuel Mudiay (contract 4.15 mill) and pick 37 in 2018 draft (this can be swapped with a future second)

Knicks receive Dennis Schroder

Pros Knicks receive a young point guard who can score around 20 points a game something new york needs as well as around 1.05 mill in cap and hey any cap space is good cap space.

Pros Hawks receive a young player in Mudiay who could have his potential untapped by the new coach piece worst case scenario let him walk in free agency if he doesn't fit as he is an expiring contract, lee adds a nice veteran presence as well as cap relief in the future as his contract expires in the 2019-2020 season as well as receiving a second round pick

some of you are thinking that this is probably an over pay for New York for someone who's in legal trouble and isn't a great on defense however he is only 24 and can still grow and with a legit super star in porzingas something he's never gotten the privilege to play with which I believe could help his development greatly. But the purpose of this cite is debate so let me hear how you think and what tweaks you would make to make this work or other teams this could work with.

TrueToAtl42

1.) 15 May 2018 23:31:41
I think mudiay could be really good playing as much as shroeder. It's a fair deal, NY would think about it. Schroeder is likely to get a month at least for the hookah shop assault. Without the pick its still probably fair given the looming jail time that is almost guaranteed.


2.) 16 May 2018 00:55:42
I will fly Schroder myself if knicks pull that without Frank or pick.

Hawks nights want Frank Mudiay Kanter for Schroder Plumlee which I would still have to fly Schroder myself.


3.) 16 May 2018 01:02:02
Knicks have no interest in a volume shooter. He’s like a less efficient Melo. If that’s possible.

How’d he do this year leading the hawks?


4.) 16 May 2018 05:40:58
Schroeder is worth more than a PG who has proven nothing, a veteran SG who will just eat up prospect minutes, and a 2nd round pick.

Also hamburger, he didn't do bad for a 2nd year starter who had a horrible offensive supporting cast. 20 and 6 are pretty good numbers for a point guard.

I like shizee's idea of Schroeder and plumlee for ntilkina and kanter. I think that is fair for both teams.


 

 

15 May 2018 19:24:04
Jazz receive Dennis Schroder

Hawks receive Joe Ingles, Tony Bradley and Pick 52 in the 2018 draft (or future second round pick)

Pros Jazz receive a 20 point scorer which they really need as they rely heavily on defense and need another shot creater that not donovan mitchell, as well as the fact he's only 24 and still has plenty of time to develop

Pros Hawks receive a veteran presence in Ingles as well as a young piece in Bradley and a second round pick as well as a small amount of cap space.

For those of you who immediately disagree with this as maybe an over pay for someone who isn't great on defense and whos in legal trouble you also need to remember that even tho he did great in the playoffs going for 27 points at time you also need to remember he's 30 and under contract for 3 more years and with that come decline while on the other hand you might get a guard who develops quite well under quinn synder and he still has plenty of time before and during his prime. but tell me what you think and what should be change to make this work if you think something need to be tweaked.

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1.) 15 May 2018 19:47:43
Magic need a point. Indy might swap their pick and collison. Collison is a better ball handler though. Ingles is untouchable fan favorite and Jazz have three guys to run the point.


2.) 15 May 2018 22:04:43
Riiiiight. The Jazz have no need for a possession heavy pg, who is a terrible shooter, a bad assist to turnover ratio, and well. just not that good.

What the Jazz give up is a great team player, ELITE shooter to spread the court and allow mitchell to do his work, and an incredible high basketball iq.

Remind us again, why in the world would the jazz say yes? But even better, you think the jazz should give up a pick and another player for that albatross of a contract. Dude is not good. Worst team in the league and he scored 19 pts a game. awesome, passssss.


3.) 15 May 2018 22:14:56
Yeah i have to go along with what probably will be the majority take on this trade. Simon Phoenix, err i mean Dennis Schroeder is an over paid Player on a bad team.


4.) 15 May 2018 22:45:32
Demolition man, weapons of mass destruction. Watched the other day. Good stuff. Movie not so much.


 

 

17 Apr 2018 21:24:15
Took some time working on possible trades for the hawks tell me if you think their possible or realistic.

Trades involving Plumlee

1)Knicks receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Joakim Noak, Pick 37 2018 draft, and possibly a future 2nd

Pros Knicks receive a center who is willing to play and 6 Mill in cap and about 7 mill the following year
Pros Hawks receive draft picks as well as a defensive minded center who could be a mentor for John Collins

2)Magic receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Bismack Biyombo and pick 41 in 2018 draft.

Pros magic receive 4.5 mill in cap for the next 3 years which could be useful in Aaron Gordons free agency or for another free agent
Pros Hawks receive draft pick and 25 year old who is a little bit more in line with their time line

3) Wizards receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Mahinmi and pick 44 in 2018 draft

Pros Wizards receive around 4.2 mill in cap this year which they could really use what with other bad contracts as well as a younger center
Pros Hawks receive draft pick

4)Rockets receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Ryan Anderson and pick 46 and possibly a future 2nd or 1st

Pros Rockets receive 7.1 mill this year and around 8 and 9 mill for the next two years respectively and for a LBJ pursuit this could be valuable
Pros Hawks receive draft picks as well as a possible shooting mentor for John Collins

5)Lakers receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks recieve Loul Deng pick 47 and future 2nd

Pros Lakers gain 4.7 in cap this year and around 5 mill in the next two years and with a club going after cap its a win
Pros Hawks gain draft picks and mentor

6)Memphis Receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Chandler Parsons Ivan Rabb and pick 32

Pros Memphis gains 11.5 mill in cap which could help sign a decent free agent
Pros Hawks get a pick and a young player

7) Pelicans receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Solomon Hill and ether Etwaun Moore or Alexis Ajinca and pick 51 and possibly a future heavy protected first

Pros Pels receive between 4.5 and 8.2 in cap depending on which second player is put in giving them much needed cap space for boogie or another free agent
Pros Hawks receive draft picks

8) Suns receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Brandon Knight and Jared Dudley with pick 16 or pick 51 and a future 1st round pick

Pros suns receive 11 mill in cap and get rid of an older player out of their time line
Pros hawks receive draft picks a okay pg who if schroder gets traded could replace as the starter and a menter in dudley for Prince

9) Nets receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Timofey Mozgov and pick 45

Pros Nets receive a younger center and gain 2.8 in cap this year and around 3-3.8 mill the next two years
Pros Hawks gain draft pick.

TrueToAtl42

1.) 17 Apr 2018 22:13:48
I Like the magic trade.


2.) 17 Apr 2018 22:28:48
I don't agree with a few of the scenarios but i definitely respect the depth of thought involved

In the scenario with the Pels it just would not work out when Boogie re-signs. It would leave Darius Miller as your only true SF and would not give them the cap room to sign a decent SF in FA. Pels have to continue growth or risk losing AD

Of all the scenarios i see Houston as most likely maybe Memphis second most.


3.) 17 Apr 2018 22:54:08
Maybe Minnesota for Dieng?


4.) 18 Apr 2018 00:22:09
10) Minnesota receives Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Grogui Deng and Pick 48 and future second due to his contract being one year longer than plumlees

Pros Wolves gain 2-5 mill over the next four years
Pros Hawks gain draft picks.


 

 

17 Apr 2018 21:19:06
Took some time working on possible trades for the hawks tell me if you think their possible or realistic.

1)Knicks receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Joakim Noah and pick 37 in 2018 nba draft

Pros knicks receive about 5.3 in cap this year and around 6-7 mill for the following two years as well as a center who is willing to play
Pros Hawks receive draft pick and a defensive minded center who could be a mentor for John Collins who needs help on the defensive side

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1.) 17 Apr 2018 21:28:44
Im not sure ATL would bite so early. This could be a potential deal at trading deadline. Idiot ny management must learn to change their mentality about how to treat players they don't want. Start playing them more to increase their trade value. With Porzingis likely out until next January and kanter considering opting out. Noah should see more playing time. So this trade could happen in 2019. But not before that.


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2018 17:54:41
After looking through this site there is a hell of a lot of one side trade and really really bad ideas for how to get superstars out of literal garbage so my goal is to try and fix a few of these god awful trades so they are realistic and make sense (some of these may have overlapping players)

1) cavs role players that would have to go to a rebuilding teams with pick(s) attached are hill, thompson, clarkson, smith

2) players that you could possibly get an even swap for players or picks zizic, korver, nance, osman

3) what can be done about love, pair with pick 8 and try and get another allstar to possible portland, Charlotte, Detroit, memphis, Oklahoma city, San Antonio, Washington, Toronto

A) teams that would take players from 1 with picks attached are Atlanta, Sacromento, Orlando, Chicago, Miami, Nets, Memphis (i put chicago, Miami, and Memphis, here due in part to them being kind of middle of the pack that could ether want to keep rebuild going or start the blow up for the latter two)

B) teams that could want a player from list 2 could be a mix of rebuilding to playoff teams i'm sure most if not all playoff teams could use korver or nance, and any rebuilding team i'm sure would like zizic or osman as they are solid young pieces

C) Each team on list 3 could use love in some way ether for a playoff push etc,
Portland might want to break up the cj dame core this is one way to do it and get back another allstar that might play better with a guard leader and or with a pick too
Charlotte might want that 8th pick and might ship walker for it
detoit may not want blake grififn anymore maybe that 8th pick looks good or just purely a love for griffin swap
memphis may want to move conely or gasol
OKC could move PG or melo if they think love would be better or even that 8th pick is what their after
San Antonio could move aldridge but this one is a bit of a stretch but again crazier things have happened its still a possiblity
Washington although hard to believe it is a possibility for Washington to want to move Wall with a less desirable season where bradley beal showed he could lead the team by himself they may decide that love would be more beneficial for them then wall would who knows gm are weird
Toronto after a great regular season but a trash post season Toronto made everyone available maybe a love for derozan trade
Any sceniros above could be used for if lebron stays or leaves your choice

So those of you who want to be here for realism and new trade ideas i hope this helps and please for those who believe they can trade thompson smith and 4 picks for anthony davis please read this throughly

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1.) 11 Jun 2018 18:22:26
Hill and Smith are both in the last fully guaranteed year of their contract. Hill only has a million guaranteed after next season and Smith has something like 3. Both players would probably benefit financially by taking a buyout giving them the rest of this year's salary and then letting them sign else where. If a team is rebuilding and the Cavs are willing to take on a multiyear deal for one of those 2, they'll most likely be looked as expiring deals.

I don't think packaging Love with the 8th pick works in most situations where a star is trying to be moved. Most of the teams trading stars will be looking to rebuild. Love wouldn't have much value to those teams. The Cavs would need to need to find a 3rd team with interest in Love.

The Heat won't be taking on salary. They have a ton of bad money on the books and are teetering on the brink of luxury tax. They're going to be sellers on salary more likely than buyers. Memphis is over the cap as well and look to still be trying to win. I don't see them taking on salary for picks.


 

 

20 Apr 2018 02:45:17
Realistic draft pick trades that could happen on draft night

1)Knicks trade pick #9 for Clippers pick 12 or 13 assuming clippers take on an unwanted contract most likely something small like Lance thomas or Courtney lee

Pros Knicks get to get ride of a unwanted contract and only drop a few spots
Pros Clippers get to move up and draft someone on there higher priorities list that may not be available by the time they get to draft

2)76ers pick 10 and most likely jared bayless for pick 12 or 13 from the Clippers

Pros 76ers get rid of bayless' contract for free agency only drop a few picks down
Pros clippers see above knicks deal

3)Wizards trade pick 15 and Ian Mahinmi for the Bulls pick #22 and Cristiano Felicio

Pros Wizards get ride of bad contract and open up cap
Pros Bulls get a higher pick

4)Hawks trade pick 30 to 76ers for picks 39&56&60 in the second round (possibly throw in pick 38 depending on how good you are at making deals hawks management)

Pros Hawks in a rebuilding phase quantity can be better than quality at times, with pick 33 whoever they had planned on drafting at 30 will still most likely by there gaining 2 more picks overall which could yield a one in a million diamond in the deep rough (highly unlikely but still the more the better)
Pros 76ers don't really need those late picks as their team is already playoff ready and 3 young players that late has a possibility of hendering them from free agency signing and getting pick 30 could still yield an okay player they could draft and stash or keep as a 3/4 back up on the end of the bench

TrueToAtl42

1.) 20 Apr 2018 04:50:58
Only one I like is 3.


2.) 20 Apr 2018 09:44:29
The first 2 are probably overpays and the third is probably an under pay.


 

 

17 Apr 2018 21:12:15
Took some time working on possible trades for the hawks tell me if you think their possible or realistic.

Trades involving Plumlee

1)Knicks receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Joakim Noak, Pick 37 2018 draft, and possibly a future 2nd

Pros Knicks receive a center who is willing to play and 6 Mill in cap and about 7 mill the following year
Pros Hawks receive draft picks as well as a defensive minded center who could be a mentor for John Collins

2)Magic receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Bismack Biyombo and pick 41 in 2018 draft.

Pros magic receive 4.5 mill in cap for the next 3 years which could be useful in Aaron Gordons free agency or for another free agent
Pros Hawks receive draft pick and 25 year old who is a little bit more in line with their time line

3) Wizards receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Mahinmi and pick 44 in 2018 draft

Pros Wizards receive around 4.2 mill in cap this year which they could really use what with other bad contracts as well as a younger center
Pros Hawks receive draft pick

4)Rockets receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Ryan Anderson and pick 46 and possibly a future 2nd or 1st

Pros Rockets receive 7.1 mill this year and around 8 and 9 mill for the next two years respectively and for a LBJ pursuit this could be valuable
Pros Hawks receive draft picks as well as a possible shooting mentor for John Collins

5)Lakers receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks recieve Loul Deng pick 47 and future 2nd

Pros Lakers gain 4.7 in cap this year and around 5 mill in the next two years and with a club going after cap its a win
Pros Hawks gain draft picks and mentor

6)Memphis Receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Chandler Parsons Ivan Rabb and pick 32

Pros Memphis gains 11.5 mill in cap which could help sign a decent free agent
Pros Hawks get a pick and a young player

7) Pelicans receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Solomon Hill and ether Etwaun Moore or Alexis Ajinca and pick 51 and possibly a future heavy protected first

Pros Pels receive between 4.5 and 8.2 in cap depending on which second player is put in giving them much needed cap space for boogie or another free agent
Pros Hawks receive draft picks

8) Suns receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Brandon Knight and Jared Dudley with pick 16 or pick 51 and a future 1st round pick

Pros suns receive 11 mill in cap and get rid of an older player out of their time line
Pros hawks receive draft picks a okay pg who if schroder gets traded could replace as the starter and a menter in dudley for Prince

9) Nets receive Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Timofey Mozgov and pick 45

Pros Nets receive a younger center and gain 2.8 in cap this year and around 3-3.8 mill the next two years
Pros Hawks gain draft pick.

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1.) Maybe turk bass and draft picks for rip and big ben........no ben gordon and wont give up jj in that deal. magic then can trade jj and jameer for jsmith. magic sign tayshawn, kwame and troy murphy. lineup
arenas/duhon?
rip/q
tayshawn/harper
jsmith/r. anderson
dwight/kwame. stacked team.


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2018 16:25:45
Wiggins and the 20th are not worth a draft cornerstone in ether bagley doncic or bamba, i would do 19th and schroder for wiggins and 20th.

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18 Apr 2018 00:22:09
10) Minnesota receives Miles Plumlee
Hawks receive Grogui Deng and Pick 48 and future second due to his contract being one year longer than plumlees

Pros Wolves gain 2-5 mill over the next four years
Pros Hawks gain draft picks.

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