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10 Oct 2018 22:58:28
3 Team Deals Magic/Spurs/Wolves

Magic Trade Aaron Gordon Jerian Grant

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler Tyus Jones

Spurs Trade Demar DeRorzan 2019 first round pick Toronto

Spurs get Jimmy Butler Jerian Grant

Wolves get Aaron Gordon 2019 first round pick (protected) Toronto

Magic get Demar DeRorzan Tyus Jones

11 Oct 2018 00:09:45
Spurs, Wolves, and Magic all say No!

11 Oct 2018 00:49:47
Spurs not trading their star who is proven to be loyal on where he plays.

11 Oct 2018 11:50:35
I love it for magic.

10 Oct 2018 08:52:56
SAS-UTH

SAS- rubio
UTH- mills/ tor 1st rd pick.

10 Oct 2018 14:35:26
Interesting trade idea. I don't think Utah would do this though. If they would, Spurs should say yes.

11 Oct 2018 00:55:51
I think utah wants the pick for sure but also think they can sign rubio to a friendly deal. The Spanish samurai is well loved in Utah. Good mentor for Allen, Exum, and Mitchell too.

10 Oct 2018 04:49:08
LAC/MIN/SAS

LAC get Jimmy Butler & Jeff Teague

MIN get Shai Alexander, Pau Gasol, Tobias Harris & 1st round pick TOR & 1st round pick LAC

SAS get Pat Beverley & Marcin Gortat

10 Oct 2018 14:29:59
Spurs not that desperate.

11 Oct 2018 01:04:08
It doesn't pass the Jerry West smell test for the clips.

10 Oct 2018 00:05:38
MIN - MIA - SAS

MIN trade: Butler, Dieng
Get: Dragic, Gasol, Mia 2019 1st, Tor 2019 1st (from SA).

MIA trade: Whiteside, Winslow, Dragic, 2019 1st.
Get: Butler, Dieng, Mills

SAS trade: Gasol, Mills, 2019 Tor 1st.
Get: Whiteside, Winslow.

Min can trade Teague or Dragic to PHO for Warren or Jackson.

10 Oct 2018 04:31:06
this one is better for the other two teams than min. and phx has no business trading one of those guys for a pg over 30.

08 Oct 2018 21:04:01
Spurs Trade Patty Mills 2019 first round pick Protected TOR

Miami Trade Tyler Johnson Justise Winslow

08 Oct 2018 22:12:25
Trade doesn't work because of salaries. Although Spurs would love to get their hands on Justise Winslow, they can't trade Mills now, because of Murray injury. Mills is now their starting PG.

09 Oct 2018 01:28:45
Ohhh can they get Josh Richemond as Point Guard.

09 Oct 2018 19:08:04
TJ can play the point, but Miami is not moving Winslow to move a bad salary for a bit less bad salary and a first in the 25-30 range.

05 Oct 2018 23:30:17
Raptors get Hardaway Lee Spalding
Mavs get N.Powell Miles
Knicks get Mathews Green


Raptors get better at SG.

Lowry/Fleet/Brown
Hardaway/Lee/Wright
Leonard/OG/Richardson
Ibaka/Siakum/Spalding
Valanciunas/Monroe/Moreland

Mavs get needed depth on wings

Smith/Barea/Brunson
Powell/Harris/Broekhoff
Doncic/Miles/Smith
Barnes/Powell/Kleber
Jordan/Dirk/Mejri

Knicks cut future salary.

Ntilikina/Burke/Mudiay
Trier/Green/Baker
Knox/Mathews/Dotson
Porzingis/Thomas/Hezonja
Robinson/Kanter/Vonleh

06 Oct 2018 17:10:48
i think this make the raptors worse.

05 Oct 2018 02:14:24
T-Wolves - Heat - Spurs - Suns

T-Wolves
trade: Jimmy Butler
Receive: James Johnson, Justise Winslow, 2019 Heat 1st, 2019 Raptors 1st (from Spurs).

Heat
trade: Hassan Whiteside, James Johnson, Justise Winslow, 2019 1st.
Receive: Jimmy Butler, Pau Gasol, Durell Arthur

Spurs
Trade: Pau Gasol, Patty Mills, 2019 Toronto 1st.
Receive: Hassan Whiteside, Dragan Bender

Suns
Trade: Durell Arthur, Dragan Bender.
Receive: Patty Mills.

05 Oct 2018 12:31:26
Not a chance Minnesota takes back James Johnson's albatross of a contract.

Only one way for Miami to get Butler. No Richardson, no Butler.

05 Oct 2018 15:30:21
Minnesota has less leverage every day. Johnson is not an albatross. He is overpaid, but he can play. They get Winslow and 2 1st picks. May be the best offer they can get.

05 Oct 2018 16:00:29
James Johnson is solid. T. Johnson has the bad contract. I think James has really good value if you need a PF.

05 Oct 2018 16:15:04
James Johnson is signed for the same amount of years at Dieng for nearly as much money, is 3 or 4 years older, and can't shoot from 3. How does he help Minnesota?

05 Oct 2018 18:13:34
That is going way overboard! Dieng is going to cost to move. J. Johnson could be moved without costing anything. They are 2 different players, and the wolves would be far better off with Johnson than Dieng. I thought you were a wolves homer? Johnson defends the perimeter and the paint, Dieng barely gets up and down the floor.

04 Oct 2018 01:30:30
PHX-MIN-TOR

PHX gets Ibaka, Teague and 2nd rd pick via TOR


MIN gets Lowry, OG, Bender

TOR gets Butler, Dieng, and Warren


FVF/ Wright
Butler/ Green
Kwahi. Powell
Warren/ Siakam
Jval/ Dieng


Lowry
Wiggins
OG
Gibson/ Bender
Towns

Teague/ Okobo
Booker/ Jackson
Ariza/ Bridges
Ibaka/ Anderson
Ayton/ Chandler.

30 Sep 2018 16:42:08
sas-cha

sas- batum/ kriminsky
cha- gasol/ mills/ tor pick

SAS
c. poeltl/ kriminsky/ metu
pf. aldridge/ bertans/
sf. batum/ gay
sg. derozan/ bilinelli
pg. murray/ walker.

30 Sep 2018 20:25:30
I'd rather have batum's bad deal than mills. Parker and walker are already in play and batum produces, just makes too much.

01 Oct 2018 23:52:04
Pretty good deal for Spurs. Not sure why Charlotte does this deal. They have two good PGs. Mills is only overpaid if you think of him as a traditional backup PG. He is PG/ SG and plays 25 minutes a game. He is almost worth his contract to the right team. Unfortunately, Charlotte is not the right team for Mills.

29 Sep 2018 18:51:22
TOR-DET-POR

TOR get Lilard, Drummond and Aminu

DET get Jval, TOR 1st rd pick 2019, and Harkless

POR gets Lowry, Ibaka and OG and 2nd rd pick via DET


Lilard/ Fred Van/ Wright
Green/ Powell
Kwahi/ Miles
Siakam/ Aminu
Drummond/ Monroe

Jackson
Harkless/ Galloway
Johnson/ Kennard/ Bullock
Griffin/ Ellenson
JVal/ Leuer

feel like drummond doesn't see himself winning anything in DET and DET knowing he's right, i think they will try to trade him for some picks. don't think its drummonds fault, its just Pistons have a bad front office.


Lowry/ Trent Jr
CJ MCcollum/ Curry
OG/ Turner
Ibaka/ Collins
Nurkic/ Leonard.

29 Sep 2018 19:57:30
San Antonio owns TOR 1st 2019.

29 Sep 2018 22:51:21
How would the blazers not be getting a 1st round lottery projected also?

30 Sep 2018 01:52:32
Why would the pistons do this, trade away drummond for a mediocre center and overpaid role player and a late first round pick that can't even be traded?

30 Sep 2018 22:37:16
This trade makes no sense for Portland.

28 Sep 2018 01:09:40
T-Wolves, Heat, Spurs, Suns

T-Wolves get: Josh Richardson (SF), Dion Waiters(SG), 2019 1st round from Heat and Pau Gasol (PF/C) from Spurs.

Heat get: Jimmy Butler(SG), Gorgiu Dieng(C) from T-Wolves and Tyson Chandler(C) from Suns.

Spurs get: Hasan Whiteside(C) from Heat and Josh Jackson(SF) from Suns.



Suns Get: Patty Mills(PG), Toronto 2019 1st round from Spurs and Tyus Jones(PG) from T-Wolves.

28 Sep 2018 18:54:50
asking the suns to trade jackson for that return kills this one.

28 Sep 2018 20:14:46
Yea, I see your point, however, it does give Phoenix two PG options, a veteran and youngster, and a 1st round pick. They also have a logjam at Forward positions.

Depends on how bad Phoenix wants a reliable PG.

Swapping other Suns players for Jackson makes salaries difficult to work.

26 Sep 2018 07:44:51
I already posted this trade; but revised it to get Phoenix involved since they are pursuing Tyus Jones and it makes sense for it to be a four-team trade that assesses all teams' needs and wants.
*T Wolves get: Jonas Valanciunas, Zach Randolph, OG Anunoby, T.J. Warren, Shaquille Harrison
PG Teague/Rose/Harrison
SG Wiggins/Okogie/Nunnally
SF Warren/Onunoby/Deng
PF Randolph/Gibson/Tolliver/Bates-Diop
Ce Towns/Valanciunas
- Get two amazing bench pieces in Val and OG. Get a solid, decent replacement for Butler in Warren; allows Wiggins to be second option. Get ZBO, who could be argued better than Gibson and can help bring a veteran presence to a young team. Harrison was really to get the money to match, but he could serve as a backup PG if Rose is unable to. No picks for Minny since their return is pretty good for JB, and they dumped Dieng's contract.

*Raptors get: Jimmy Butler, Willie Cauley-Stein, C.J. Williams
PG Lowry/VanVleet/Brown
SG Butler/Wright/Williams
SF Leonard/Miles/Powell
PF Ibaka/Siakam/Moreland
Ce Monroe/Cauley-Stein/Noguiera
- They form a big 3 with Butler, Kawhi, and Lowry. Their losing a lot of good players like Val and OG, who was on a rookie contract; but they need to go all in since Kawhi might no re-sign. Yes they are taking risk with 2 stars possibly being FA's next year, but that risk is worth it if you can make it to the Finals in a Bron-less East.

*Kings get: Gorgui Dieng, Justin Patton, 2020 2nd (from TOR), 2021 2nd (from PHO)
PG Fox/Ferrell/Mason lll
SG Hield/Bogdanovic/McLemore
SF Jackson/Bjelica/Shumpert
PF Bagley lll/Giles/Patton
Ce Dieng/Labissiere/Koufos
- Taking on Dieng's contract is a big negative, but they are reportedly willing to do so. Getting rid of Cauley-Stein and Randolph was necessary to clear minutes for Labissiere, Giles, and Bagley lll. Dieng's contract is not terrible, he is just slightly overpaid but he is a decent player who is still young. They get Patton, who has not shown much but could be a useful, young piece for the Kings' young roster. They get two second rounders as well that could be worth something in the future.

*Suns get: Danny Green, Tyus Jones, 2021 2nd (From TOR)
PG Jones/Okobo/Melton
SG Booker/Daniels/Reed
SF Jackson/Bridges/Green
PF Ariza/Anderson/Peters
Ce Ayton/Holmes/Chandler
- Losing T.J. Warren is a big blow for them since he was young, on a reasonable long term contract. But they needed to clear up wing minutes for JJ and Mikal (idk why they signed Ariza). Losing Warren is beneficial as they get rid of 10+ mil a year for the next 4 years and get back two exp. contracts and a second. Jones fits their timeline and could immediately start at the 1 and was shown to be a great bench piece for Minny before Rose Signed and took his minutes. Green is more to match the money, but he could provide three point shooting if the wings cannot produce. In doing this, they clear around 45 mil next offseason (Chandler, green, Jones, Daniels, Ariza, Holmes, and Canaan) all off the books and could pursue a better PG (Kemba, Russell, Rozier, Bledsoe, Brogdon, etc.)

26 Sep 2018 06:07:59
Minnesota - Toronto

Minnesota gets: Kyle Lowry, Pascal Siakam

Toronto gets: Jimmy Butler, Gorgui Dieng

Minnesota wants to hold out for a package with the best star player coming back to them. I don't see a deal where they get a better player.

It seems that Lowry isn't happy with Toronto and soon might ask for his own trade.

26 Sep 2018 18:23:50
Lowry might ask for a trade based on what? They just had media day and he said he's ready to play and to win, same as Kawhi, and everybody else that they interviewed, the Raptors falling apart without DeMar narrative is lazy and played out, they won 59 games last year and got better on both sides of the ball with the trade, so.

27 Sep 2018 12:09:43
Lowry is going to be hard to trade. Don't think Toronto didn't try.

26 Sep 2018 00:52:46
Twolves send: Butler, Dieng
Receive: Ibaka, Powell, OG, '21 2nd
Clear the Dieng contract get two potential starters and Powell is a good bench piece to have.

Kings send: Shumpert
Receive: Dieng, Wright, '20 2nd
Use cap space to add a PG prospect and a pick

Raptors send: Ibaka, Powell, OG, Wright, '20 & '21 2nds
Receive: Butler, Shumpert
Go all in on this year, and clean up their books if they need to go into a rebuild after this season.

PG: Lowry, VanVleet
SG: Butler, Green
SF: Leonard, Shumpert
PF: Siakam, Miles
C: Val, Monroe

26 Sep 2018 02:32:16
Why do kings take Wright and dieng?

26 Sep 2018 02:44:15
@Shiller41 He is a good PG prospect for them and he has the size to play/ defend a few positions.

26 Sep 2018 04:26:04
Kings would ask for more for the inconvenience of Dieng.

26 Sep 2018 19:39:19
doing? Drafted twopgs last year they don't need a young pg. Doing clogs minutes and cap with kings young bigs with hope.

25 Sep 2018 18:55:10
Raps/ Wolves

To TOR - Jimmy Butler

To MIN - Jonas, OG, Delon, 2021 Toronto 1st (lottery protected)

Raptors double down on the season, and give the combo of Jimmy and Claw a reason to resign together in Toronto.

Raps take a chance by giving up two key pieces for their future, but to move Val and get Jimmy, there’s going to have to be sacrifice.

25 Sep 2018 19:49:27
id say og is as close to untouchable as anyone on that roster.

25 Sep 2018 22:01:43
Why would Minnesota want Jonas with Towns and Dieng? Those three would combine for more than $60 million in 19-20.

26 Sep 2018 01:26:26
There would have to be a second move from Minny to clear Dieng.

25 Sep 2018 17:53:47
*T Wolves get: Jonas Valanciunas, Zach Randolph, Danny Green, OG Anunoby, 2021 2nd (From TOR)
PG Teague/Jones/Rose
SG Wiggins/Green/Okogie
SF Anunoby/Deng/Bates-Diop
PF Randolph/Gibson/Tolliver
Ce Towns/Valanciunas

*Kings get: Gorgui Dieng, Justin Patton, 2020 2nd (from TOR)
PG Fox/Ferrell/Mason lll
SG Hield/McLemore/Shumpert
SF Bogdanovic/Bjelica/Jackson
PF Bagley lll/Giles/Patton
Ce Dieng/Labissiere/Koufos

*Raptors get: Jimmy Butler, Willie Cauley-Stein, C.J. Williams
PG Lowry/VanVleet/Brown
SG Butler/Wright/Williams
SF Leonard/Miles/Powell
PF Ibaka/Siakam/Moreland
Ce Monroe/Cauley-Stein/Noguiera

25 Sep 2018 15:45:16
Wolves get Lowry and Warren

Raptors get Butler and ZBO

Kings get Dieng and a first rounder from the Raptors

Suns get Teague

25 Sep 2018 15:15:42
If Butler goes to Raptors..
East Finals will be: Celtics vs Raptors..

25 Sep 2018 16:53:36
I think that's probably what it is anyway. Phili might step in, but right now those two are the two best teams in the east going into the season.

25 Sep 2018 17:37:32
Celtics
Pacers
Raptors
Sixers
Bucks
Wizards
Heat
Pistons
Bulls
Hornets
Nets
Cavs
Magic
Knicks

*Jimmy Butler would move the heat into the top 3, sixers in the top 2.

25 Sep 2018 18:00:02
Bold outlook on the Pacers Btec. They're definitely top 4 to me. I do hope that's how it goes, I really like the Pacers team. The top 4 should be pretty interesting with Boston, Indy, and Phili's youth and Toronto's big move. I think there will be a huge gap to 5 after that.

25 Sep 2018 18:48:01
Agreed Bmiller, I think 2 is a little bullish for Indy, but top 4 is very realistic. There is definitely a drop off between that top 4 and the rest.

Raps do have the assets to make a deal for Butler, whether Minny wants current or future assets. With three good PG’s, Lowry can be the current star, or one of Fred/ Delon could be the future. Adding Miles, or OG would work as well.

I could see any number of combinations, and even potentially including the Kings to make it happen.

25 Sep 2018 19:54:14
I agree @triangle that the raps do have the right pieces in a value sense to land butler or at least be a finalist in offers made. Powell is a good young piece too. Tough break getting injured and OG tearing it up in his absence. Dealing their youth, and picks then butler and Leonard leave next summer? Bold. Give kudos to ujiri for going all in though. Butler going to the east is good for league balance too.

29 Sep 2018 14:53:16
As a Celtics fan, I might be as scared of the Bucks as anyone in the East.
Toronto should be good if Leonard comes back healthy, but swapping him for DeRozan is not a HUGE upgrade. It's a star for a bigger star, but who knows how it will fit.
Philly is still young, and I can see them going in just about any direction. they could see injuries to Embiid while Fultz' yips and Simmons' shooting woes continue, or they could all wind up being the best versions of themselves and be fantastic.
Indy is just a solid team to me, and they did it all with Turner being just OK. If he breaks out like he's capable, they could really ruin some team's season come playoff time.
The Bucks on the other hand have a bonafide superstar. The closest thing anyone has to him is Leonard, and we don't know how he will come back yet. Middleton is a really good scorer, but too much was put on him last year because they didn't have many great shooters. That's where I think DiVincenzo will make a difference. He probably won't do too much early on, but I could see him earning himself some serious playing time by the playoffs, and his spacing of the floor will make things a lot easier on Giannis and Bledsoe/ Brogdon to slash to the basket. The addition of Lopez (who can actually shoot now) and a possible breakout of Maker in the Celtics series last year make them a really interesting team to watch.

21 Sep 2018 01:36:38
Raptors Trade Serge Ibaka Delon Wright 2019 first round pick (unprotected) 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler Tyus Jones

Second Trade

Memphis Trade Mike Conley to Raptors

Raptors Trade Kyle Lowry to Memphis

21 Sep 2018 03:43:57
Hey MD, the Raps 2019 pick already belongs to the Spurs. Though it’s protected, you can’t trade it twice.

You have got to stop posting brah, you’re not getting many believables.

21 Sep 2018 20:47:48
Conley for lowry? Why for memphos?

20 Sep 2018 17:52:17
Butler wants out of Minny and although he has 3 places he wants to go; we all know the t wolves will take the best offer if it's a team he wants or not. The raptors may be a team to push for Butler since they are basically going all in this year.
*T Wolves get: PF/C Serge Ibaka, SF/PF T.J. Warren, SG Troy Daniels, 2021 2nd (trom TOR), 2020 2nd (from PHO)

PG Teague/Rose
SG Wiggins/Daniels/Okogie
SF Warren/Deng/Williams
PF Ibaka/Tolliver/Bates-Diop
Ce Towns/Dieng/Patton

*Raptors get: SG/SF Jimmy Butler, PF/C Taj Gibson

PG Lowry/VanVleet/Richardson
SG Butler/Wright/Powell
SF Leonard/Anunoby/Miles
PF Gibson/Siakam
C Valanciunas/Monroe/Noguiera

*Suns get: PG Tyus Jones

PG Jones/Okobo/Harrison
SG Booker/Bridges/Melton
SF Jackson/Ariza/Reed
PF Anderson/Holmes/Peters
C Ayton/Bender/Chandler

20 Sep 2018 18:41:07
Not close to enough for Butler. Ibaka is a negative contract at this point. I think Toronto would have to include OG in any trade, maybe Wright as well.

Also, feels like Phoenix is getting a bad deal too. Jones is a below average backup PG. Warren is a good wing on a reasonable deal. And Phoenix gives up a pick? Why?

 
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