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21 Jun 2018 16:12:08
Grizzlies receive:
G DeMar DeRozan

Knicks receive:
4th pick in draft (Mo Bamba)
F Chandler Parsons

Raptors receive:
9th pick in draft (SGA)
36th pick in draft
F Lance Thomas (expiring)
G Courtney Lee

21 Jun 2018 17:23:50
Seems like the Raptors would just cut the Knicks out and take #4 and Parsons.

21 Jun 2018 18:37:19
@bmill but rumors say they want sga, so here they don’t have to take parsons and get some more serviceable pieces.

21 Jun 2018 18:40:47
I like it.

21 Jun 2018 15:44:44
CHA-TOR-LAL

making room for lebron

CHA gets Lowry and 1st rd pick from TOR (2019)
" Trades Kemba to ORL for 6th pick and Vucevic

TOR gets Batum, Deng, Ingram, and 1st rd pick from LAL (#25), 2019 pick (LAL)
Sign Thomas 3yr/ 45 mil

LAL gets Derozan
Trades Kuzma to IND for Turner and 1st rd pick (#23)
Sign Favors
George Max
Sign Rondo 1yr/ 10 mil
Lebron Max

Lowry/ Monk
Mikal Bridges (#11)/ Lamb/
Porter (#6 via ORL) / MKG
Marvin Williams
Vucevic

Isiah Thomas/ Fred V
Batum/ OG/ Gary Trent Jr (#25 via LAL)
Ingram/ Miles
Ibaka/ Siakam
JVal/ Poetl

Lonzo/ Rondo
Derozan/ Grayson Allen (#23)
George/ Hart
Bron/ Favors
Turner.

21 Jun 2018 17:23:02
Lakers are definitely holding out for news with Leonard or lbj before anything like this would go down. The draft I'm thinking is too soon for either Leonard or lbj situations to be decided.

21 Jun 2018 18:43:02
not that lowry’s and derozan’s value are super high rn. but tor should get more for their two best players than ingram and two really bad contracts, maybe give them hart and j. simmons from orl or even fournier (bad contract but he isn't a terrible player) and swap out batum for williams maybe.

19 Jun 2018 13:35:12
Raptors/ Hornets:

To TOR: Batum, Stone, Pick 11

To CHA: Derozan

If the Hornets decide to retool instead of rebuild, adding Derozan puts them in a better position to compete for the playoffs and convince Walker that it’s worth resigning.

Raptors get their man in the draft, Shai-Gilgeous Alexander with the 11th pick. While Batum struggled last season and is overpaid he’s still a quality NBA player who gives the Raps a different look. Stone is included only to bring the dollars within a million of each other, helping Charlotte avoid the luxury tax.

19 Jun 2018 13:47:04
I'd pass if I were Toronto. Batum's contract is so bad.

19 Jun 2018 14:05:57
Batum sucks and alexander could get nabbed at 8-10.

19 Jun 2018 16:12:19
Obviously a draft day deal should SGA still be there at 11.

19 Jun 2018 18:06:11
@ triangle that makes more sense. Derozan is the most valuable piece raps have they are going to be thorough before dumping him.

19 Jun 2018 05:02:07
Raptors gett pick 8 and 4, Parsons, Clarkson, Thompson, and hill Cavs get Lowry,green, and derozan. Memphis get love and korver.

Lowry
Derozan
James
Green
Ibaka
With Smith green Nance sign Evans with mle.

19 Jun 2018 08:13:55
I don't think Derozan is a good fit for Cleveland.
I like this for Toronto, great team, but aging, so why not.
I don't get it, but this is what Memphis wants.

19 Jun 2018 14:09:56
Good for cavs lousy for grizzlies.

19 Jun 2018 20:14:53
People say to move Deng contract Lakers will need to add kuzma or Ball or Ingram. so if Memphis wanna move Parsons for a decent player, they have to attach pick also.

18 Jun 2018 21:58:50
Bulls: Asik, Lopez, holiday, 7

Raptors: Derozan

18 Jun 2018 21:32:11
Knicks - Raptors - Spurs

Knicks gets:
Leonard

Raptors gets:
Lee
Mills
9th pick (Gilgeous-Alexander)
2019 2nd rd pick (Knicks)
2020 2nd rd pick (Hornets)

Spurs gets:
Derozan
Mudiay
2020 1st rd pick (Knicks, Top 5 protected)

Knicks gets a star to pair with Porzingis and Ntilikina. Scary defensive team and with Fizdales toughness they can compete in the east.

Rumors say that Raptors want Gilgeous-Alexander bad. By getting the 9th pick they can pick him and save some money as well.

Spurs move Leonard to the East and can continue to compete with Derozan. They also get a cheap PG in Mudiay and a future pick.

Win-Win-Win

18 Jun 2018 22:23:08
If you get Leonard, you make cap space to get Lebron and George also. Forget Ntilikina and Porzingis.

18 Jun 2018 22:31:19
Cap space and realistic chances of landing a free agent aren't the same shizzee.

17 Jun 2018 19:00:58
Raptors get Kawai

Spurs get Derozen.

17 Jun 2018 19:42:55
Hard pass from the Spurs. Derozan isn't any where near the talent that Leonard is.

17 Jun 2018 20:09:20
Spurs aren’t going to get equal value.

17 Jun 2018 22:17:14
Probably not, but Derozan is a bad contract.

17 Jun 2018 23:45:22
Derozan isn’t near the talent, but I’d argue the value is close. Derozan is still a second team all nba player, and he’s locked in long term. He has good value to a team that wants to compete right away. I could see the spurs wanting to not rebuild.

I don’t think Toronto does it. Why trade their star for a star that likely doesn’t want to play there, and has had major injury issues?

16 Jun 2018 23:00:32
Cavs Trade Tristan Thompson and 2019 Second round pick (MIN)

Raptors Trade Jonas Valanciunas

17 Jun 2018 03:15:39
Why would raptors do that?

17 Jun 2018 05:11:03
So Tristan Thompson can go back home play for his hometown team.

17 Jun 2018 05:41:05
Lol - mike that's a silly logic.

17 Jun 2018 07:01:14
What! He from Toronto that a good trade Cavs got to unload second round pick to get rid of his Contract.

17 Jun 2018 14:06:56
It would take more than a second.

18 Jun 2018 11:21:12
Mike it's a good trade for cavs. It doesn't help raps really.

16 Jun 2018 01:48:30
Spurs - Raptors

Spurs get:
Demar DeRozan
OG Anunoby
Delon Wright

Raptors get:
Kawhi Leonard
Patty Mills

I would say this is similar to what OKC gave up to get Paul George.

Raptors spruce up their roster for one last run before the Celtics and 76ers dominate the East. If it doesn't work, and Kawhi leaves, they blow it up.

Spurs get all star level talent and a Kawhi junior in return.

16 Jun 2018 13:50:47
but if it doesn't work and kawhi leaves you gave a 2 good young pieces in delon wright and anunoby and gave up a star who can be traded for more young assets.

17 Jun 2018 03:16:43
Raptors say no.

15 Jun 2018 17:32:47
raptors and griz


raptors get 4th pick and Parsons
and salary fillers.


griz get Ibaka first future first round pick and delon wright and Powell.

15 Jun 2018 17:41:31
I'd pass on that if I were the Griz. Ibaka's contract was looking pretty bad by the time the playoffs hit.

15 Jun 2018 18:16:05
I think Memphis would be looking at Derozan if they sent #4 to Toronto.

17 Jun 2018 03:17:20
As raptor fan of they got fourth pick for Obama I'd dance.

11 Jun 2018 20:01:44
raptors and wolves

raptors get Wiggins and Jeff T

wolves get Lowry,ibaka and future second round pick.


raptors get a young forward and Canadian born player and a shoot first point guard they can use.


raptors also get ride of ibaka and ageing Lowry which both would fit great next to butler and towns. wolves would be tough to beat after this trade and raptors improve. in all areas.

then raptors should look yo trade Powell and wright for a first round pick and second round pick. resign vanfleet.

Jeff t. vanfleet
DD. miles
wiggins. OG
Siakim. draft wangger
JV. poetle

11 Jun 2018 20:26:19
Plus. Wiggins is Canadian!

11 Jun 2018 18:22:19
TOR-PHX-BOS
Say BOS goes all out for bron

TOR gets Horford, Kyrie, Brandon Knight, Chandler and 1st pick via PHX


PHX gets Derozan
Sign Randle 2yr/ 26 mil
Sign Bradley 1yr/ 10 mil

BOS gets Kyle Lowry, JVal and 1st rd pick from TOR 2019
Sign Dedmon 3yr/ 30 mil

Kyrie/ Knight
Avery Bradley/ OG
Bagley/ CJ Miles
Ibaka/ Siakam
Horford/ Chandler


Payton/ Ulis
Booker/ Jackson
Derozan/ Knox #16
Julius Randle
Len/ Bender

Lowry/ Rozier
Hayward/ Smart
Tatum/ Brown
Bron/ Morris
Jval/ Dedmon.

11 Jun 2018 18:47:50
Just want to make sure I'm reading this correctly. So Boston gives up Kyrie AND Horford for an old Lowry, a run of the mill overpaid big man, and a mid 1st rd pick that they don't need? I can't stand the celtics, but this trade is laughable. A huge over value of Lowry and his $30 mill per year contract for the next 3 years. Ainge gets a good chuckle out of this proposal though.

11 Jun 2018 18:57:21
horford or kyrie, not both, maybe not either.

11 Jun 2018 20:09:47
I like it for raptors.

12 Jun 2018 21:32:24
LOL they wouldn't even give up Horford for Lowry let alone Kyrie and Horford. Lowry has a huge contract and he is overrated.

11 Jun 2018 04:27:53
here's a trade raptors hornets and Sixers


raptors get walker hornets second round pick 2018.

hornets get fultz, Powell and wright and sixers future first round pick.

Sixers get Lowry.

then hornets trade Howard to the Cavs for Thompson and Smith

11 Jun 2018 18:14:51
howard trade is not smart, he is expiring, tt and jr signed thru 19/ 20.

10 Jun 2018 15:12:39
MIN-TOR-DAL-DET-ORL


MIN gets:

- DeMar DeRozan
- Wesley Matthews
- Reggie Jackson

TOR gets:

- Andrew Wiggins
- Gorgui Dieng
- MIN 2018 1st round pick (#20)
- Pistons 2nd round pick (#43)

DAL gets:

- Cole Aldrich
- Jon Leuer
- MIN 2019 1st round pick (Top 10 protected)
- Jonathan Simmons
- D. J. Augustin

DET gets:

- Kyle Lowry

ORL gets:

- Jeff Teague


MIN does this because.

- they get the best player in the trade. DeRozan and Butler automatically become one of the best wing duos in the league. Reggie Jackson is a solid point guard - hust like Jeff Teague. Plus, Wesley Matthews is a good veteran and solid back up wing. Also, getting rid of Andrew Wiggins, who was causing problems with Jimmy Butler and Thibs, will be nice as well.

PG: R. Jackson-D. Rose-T. Jones
SG: J. Butler-W. Matthews
SF: D. DeRozan-FA
PF: T. Gibson-FA
C: K. Anthony-Towns-J. Patton

TOR does this because.

- they are officially in rebuild mode. Getting swept by the LeBron's - I mean Cavs - should make it obvious that it is ime to rebuild. They should get rid of Kyle Lowry before he is considered a bad contract. While losing their franchise player, DeMar DeRozan, will hurt, TOR does get two picks and Andrew Wiggins - who still has a lot of potential.

Potential Starting lineup:

To be decided. with more trades

DAL does this because.

- they gain a pick. While they do pick up a bunch of expensive contracts, a pick for the tanking Mavericks should always make Mark Cuban happy.

Potential Starting lineup:

It does not matter

DET does this because.

- they have to go all in. Now with Blake Griffin's contract, the Pistons have to invest all they have in the present. Adding Kyle Lowry gives the Pistons another star and another shot at making it to the playoffs.

PG: K. Lowry-Ish Smith
SG: L. Kennard-L. Galloway
SF:S. Johnson-R. Bullock
PF:B. Griffin-H. Ellenson
C: A. Drummond-FA

ORL does this because.

- they actually have a point guard who can run an offense. Since Jameer Nelson, the Magic have never had decent point guard play. With Jeff Teague, Steve Clifford gets a veteran to run his offense.

10 Jun 2018 15:18:54
Minnesota says no.

10 Jun 2018 16:04:06
Toronto trades two all stars for a younger more expensive worse version of derozan, a average big ( they don't need) and two weak picks?

10 Jun 2018 20:16:25
The Pistons trade two bad contracts and get Lowry?

10 Jun 2018 22:19:13
why would minnesota say no?

11 Jun 2018 02:12:05
swapping wiggins for derozan does do anything to make KAT happier about his role on offense, he should be their first priority.

11 Jun 2018 14:53:59
Raptors say no. They give up two allstars for a weak/ expensive shooter, back up center ( which they font need) and a low pick?

11 Jun 2018 18:50:17
Toronto is not giving up Derozan for that, especially when you throw in Lowry. Both those guys have reasonable contracts, they can do better. I will agree that they might explore rebuild mode, but will wait on what Lebron does. If he leaves the East, they stay in tact. Also, like how you stated the mavericks line-up. funny.

09 Jun 2018 01:59:18
raptors trade Ibaka powell for faried , chandler and barton

09 Jun 2018 11:05:34
Nuggets gm claims he'll sign Barton and go into luxury if necessary. Ibaka adds salary beyond next season. Chandler and faried expire. Big no from nugs.

08 Jun 2018 03:57:38
76ers offseason if they strike out on Lebron

Raptors receive Wiggins, pick 26 (PHI), Justin Anderson, 2nd Rd PHI
Sixers receive Derozan
Wolves receive Covington, pick 10 (PHI), 2019 Philly 1st if it doesn't convey to Celtics

Sign Avery Bradley (believe to be a better option than Reddick and will be cheaper after injury)
Bring back Belinelli and Ilyasova on mins
Pick up Holmes option
Move Bayless with 1 or 2 2nd rounders or buyout

Simmons/ Fultz/ McConnel
Bradley/ Belinelli/ TLC
Derozan/ 2nd rounder
Saric/ Ilyasova
Embiid/ Holmes

Very tough defensive team, and now has someone who can get a basket which is what they missed last year. If Fultz develops this will be a very scary team

08 Jun 2018 05:19:34
I'd keep Covington and 10 over derozan. Derozan is a good skilled player but Covington has continued to get better every season. The possibility of 10 producing alongside sixers existing lineup is greater in my opinion. If it were George or lbj different story.

08 Jun 2018 08:59:26
Derozan is not a good fit for philly, They need 3 and D guys.
So Covington and the 10 pick (Bridges), both are good fits.

08 Jun 2018 13:28:53
So when the Sixers are in a close game at the end of the season Covington and Bridges are getting you a bucket? Covington couldn’t play D or hit a 3 in the playoffs and they both can’t get their own shot. The sixers clearly needed someone to create their own shot in the playoffs way more so then they needed 3 and D. Sending out the same starting 5 as last year is a recipe for the same season, not improvement.

08 Jun 2018 13:32:46
Also clearly everyone on this site just downvotes everything because if you didn’t like what I said the first comment disagreed with it and got the same amount of downvotes which makes no sense

08 Jun 2018 14:57:11
Sometimes people value "fit" waaaaaay too much. Simply put, Derozan is immeasurably better than Covington. If you want to compete now and can get a star for a role player and a decent pick, you do it.

Look at some of the great teams of the last decade. Miami's big 3 shouldn't have really fit together (none could shoot from the outside when they got there) . Draymond shouldn't fit in GS as perfectly as he does (he's a pass first big with no outside shot that likes to have the ball outside the paint on a team with two ball dominant wings) .

Basketball is won by star power. You get the stars you can, deal with logical fit later. If they want to win, they'll make it work.

08 Jun 2018 18:01:44
As a Sixer fan I love this deal. Covington is completely overrated as we saw these playoffs when he was benched. I would keep Reddick over Bradley bc of the chemistry already and I think JJ resigns on a cheaper team friendly deal. He wants to be close to Brooklyn where his family lives but also wants to win so Knicks and Nets are out. Everyone says the sixers need 3 and D guys but I believe we need a legit scorer. A guy who can get to the basket, knock down the mid range and shoot the 3 which DD did more this year.

08 Jun 2018 18:11:10
BMiller, fit matters. Why would you want to give up touches to Simmons or Embiid to give them to Derozan.

Also, She look at Toronto. If you're hoping Derozan is going to make baskets in the clutch, you're going to be pretty upset watching those mid range jumpers coming off the rim. I'm just not giving up much for Derozan. He isn't much of defender and his offense isn't very efficient once the playoffs hit. People actually contest his midrange stuff and he doesn't get the same whistles.

08 Jun 2018 22:52:21
@Sheeee I thought Covington and Saric held their own. I thought simmons stunk it up against the celts. Offensively, and as a PG in general. Not a popular subject to analyze or criticize anything ben simmons. Reminded me of Westbrook without the 30+ shots a game.

09 Jun 2018 14:25:25
If I'm the Sixers, I'm sticking with JJ. he's exactly what you want and need from his position. I would look into bringing Bradley in as well though. As you said, he'll probably be a bit cheaper than he would have been before the injury, and he will fit them very well. With their oddball lineup, you could start both at the same time. On the offensive end you'd line up with Simmons, Bradley, JJ, Saric and Embiid. When you come back on defense, Bradley and JJ could slide to cover the 1+2, and Simmons covers the 3. Both JJ and Bradley are high percentage/ volume 3 shooters, which you need with Simmons on the floor.

As far as the DeRozan move goes, I think they should stay the course. Fit isn't everything, but it does matter, so I would keep on moving up internally. If you don't like the fit of Covington, he can definitely be moved, but I think he's a good bench guy, and they should use their high pick while they have it.

07 Jun 2018 05:50:38
Toronto Raptors offseason moves


-Trade Jonas Valunciunas and Norman Powell to Chicago for Robin Lopez and Justin Holiday

-Buy the #45 pick from Brooklyn for $2.8m cash

•Draft-
45: Jarred Vanderbilt

-Re-sign Fred VanVleet 3yr 27m
-Sign Salah Mejri 1yr minimum


Lineup:
Pg. Lowry, VanVleet, Wright
Sg. DeRozan, Holiday, Richardson
Sf. Anunoby, Miles, McKinnie
Pf. Ibaka, Siakam, Vanderbilt
C. Lopez, Poeltl, Mejri.

07 Jun 2018 06:11:12
To gain salary relief after next season for raptors its great.

07 Jun 2018 06:12:43
Oh wait, I forgot that Ibaka and Lopez got in that major fight. Any chance they made up or could make up? Lol.

11 Jun 2018 04:20:07
raptors need to either move ibaka buy trade or move him to center and trade JV but they have to my h money towards ibaka for him to be on this team trade him and Powell for a other wing who can shoot and play D.

06 Jun 2018 22:24:54
Cavs - Raptors - Lakers
(if Lebron stays)

Cavs get:
Derozan, Pascal Siakam
Give:
Love, Osman, Zizic, pick 8

Raptors get:
Deng, Kuzma, Hart, Osman, Zizic, 8th Pick, 25th Pick
Give:
Derozan, Siakam

Lakers get:
Love
Give:
Deng, Kuzma, Hart, 25th Pick

Don't see anyone saying no, unless dumping Deng isn't as valuable as l think lt is. Let the roast begin.

07 Jun 2018 00:49:53
Raptors say no.

07 Jun 2018 01:35:13
Love for melo, know players value.

07 Jun 2018 03:40:25
If I'm the Cavs, I'm not selling out for Derozan. I just don't see any teams giving up any where near that for him.

07 Jun 2018 04:15:19
It's probably value correct but why dump your young core to sign love who's going to be 30? It took more time than he has left of prime to gather those assets.

07 Jun 2018 17:02:51
Cavs say no.

06 Jun 2018 20:45:47
Blazers get Derozan

Raptors get C.J. and the 24th pick

07 Jun 2018 00:51:40
Huh, seems logical.

07 Jun 2018 03:42:56
I'd take CJ straight up over Derozan.

07 Jun 2018 04:18:14
McCollum for derozan straight up?

06 Jun 2018 18:34:30
raptors and thunders

raptors get Melo first round pick 2018 and thunders get Ibaka and CJ miles. wright and future pick.


then raptors use Lowry to being in a young point guard or draft pick first round top 10. trade Lowry and furture first to Cavs for 2018 first round pick and Hill.

raptors draft a PG either tra young or sexton if still on the board..


raptors then sign vanfleet and trade hill to Huston for Anderson.

06 Jun 2018 19:06:45
i don't mind the melo deal, but lowry is not getting u the nets pick.

06 Jun 2018 19:11:45
Not sure about anyone else, but the Thunder say hell yeah to this.

06 Jun 2018 19:37:46
It will cost the Thunder at least a No. 1 to get rid of Anthony, but OKC's pick has been traded to Minnesota, and that means they can't trade next year's pick. So they're stuck with him and his baggage for the whole year.

06 Jun 2018 21:49:12
I will eager Melo is stuck in okc.

07 Jun 2018 04:20:37
SuperC, technically they can deal 2019 the day after the 2018 draft occurs I think. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 
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