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22 Jun 2017 02:53:04
DEN plans


DEN get Demar Derozan & Enes Kanter

TOR get Jamaal Murray , Kenneth Faried , 13th pick , 21st pick , future 2nd from OKC & 2019 1st from TOR (top 8 protected)
- get a home town boy and plenty of assets for a rebuild

OKC get Wilson Chandler
- get their small forward to start

DEN get a legit star on the trade taking on Kanter as a back-up scoring center


ATL get Darrell Arthur & 2nd round pick

DEN get Paul Millsap (s&t)

DEN resign Danilo Gallinari

Pg Mudiay/Nelson
Sg Derozan/Harris/Beasley
Sf Gallinari/Barton
Pf Millsap/Hernangomez
Ce Jokic/Kanter

21 Jun 2017 14:42:58
Raptors and knicks

Raptors first off sign Lowry, ibaka

Then trade Joesph, Carroll and Jv
23 draft pick

Knicks trade, Melo and future draft pick.



Draft a sf in the second round

21 Jun 2017 17:01:56
Can't sign players before the draft.

20 Jun 2017 22:07:28
4 way trade Suns Cavs Bulls Pacers

Cavs receive

Suns receive

Pacers receive
2017 #4 pick from Suns
2021 1st round pick from Cleveland

Bulls Receive
Al Jefferson
2018 first round pick (miami) from suns
2018 2nd round pick (Toronto) from Suns
2019 2nd round pick (LA of Minn, Least fav) from Cleveland
2020 2nd round pick (Portland) from Cleveland

21 Jun 2017 00:39:02
PHX Mgt hears this. laughs a lot. recovers in time to hang up. No way Suns do a deal like this. period.

21 Jun 2017 01:54:50
Irving must be in trade. Love value is declining fast.

21 Jun 2017 02:34:23
Phxfan, it's been reported that they've thought about moving the 4 for Love. It gives them a cheap star that they control for 3 years.

21 Jun 2017 08:27:30
Cheap is right, Love isn't what he used to be! Everyone talks about Bledsoe being injury prone, why not bring up the fact that Love is injury prone, Suns dnt need that and I hope they're not wanting to trade for him!

18 Jun 2017 19:02:20
Nets Get: DeMarre Carroll, 23rd pick

Raptors Get: 57th pick

Toronto need to free up cap space if they want to retain Lowry, Ibaka and Tucker. Brooklyn should be willing to take on any bad contracts if it gets them more picks in the 1st round.

18 Jun 2017 19:20:19
Add Joe Harris or KJ Mcdaniels to Toronto.

18 Jun 2017 23:28:24
I think Nets will have a lot of suitors looking to dump contracts into their cap space but in a vacuum this trade makes sense for the Nets and Raptors.

18 Jun 2017 16:21:44
Suns Get: 2nd pick, Luol Deng

Lakers Get: 4th pick, 2018 Miami 1st, 2018 Raptors 2nd

Magic "is in love" with Fultz but the Lakers don't stand a chance to get him now, so moving down and are guaranteed to still get one of Ball, Jackson and Fox. Phoenix take on Deng's preposterous contract but get to get whoever they feel the 2nd best player in the draft is.

18 Jun 2017 18:03:37
Some minor reworking to your deal.

Suns Get: 2nd pick, Luol Deng, Lakers #28 pick 2017

Lakers Get: 4th pick, 2018 Miami 1st, Suns #32 in 2017, Brandon Knight

Suns take Deng's nasty contract. get some of it relieved by the Lakers taking the remainder of Knight's deal. (about $5m per year to the good for LA)

18 Jun 2017 23:56:26
Although Deng's contract doesn't hurt Suns cap space is still valuable and they are still giving up a Miami pick where there is no telling what team they'll be (Team they started as which was one of worst in league or one they ended as which record wise was one of best in the league for that stretch) .

I like Phxfan's trade more from a value perspective although Lakers entire motivation of doing this trade is that they don't need Josh Jackson at #2 with George saying he wants to come aboard next year and may still be able to get Ball at #4 while clearing cap space to get George and some help for him next offseason. Only clearing 5 mill per year and moving back a few spots to 2nd round (although contract isn't guaranteed which is a plus) makes it a lot less appealing.

19 Jun 2017 00:28:05
If Lakers are trying to clear cap space for 2018 free agents, taking on Knight's contract doesn't make sense.

Just #2 and Deng for #4?

18 Jun 2017 14:06:57
Jazz Off-Season

- let Mack walk
- Raptors GM Masai Ujiri is known for making smart deals, so before losing Lowry for nothing make a s&t deal:
Jazz trade Exum, Burks, 30th pick
Raptors trade Lowry(s&t)

- resign Hayward, Hill, Ingles and Withey

- very deep and talented roster, boost their playmaking with Lowry and be able to retain the core around Hayward, Hill and Ingles (with Hill and Ingles leading, both, the bench mob)
- in 2018 Diaw's and Johnson's contracts ends -> resign Hood
- #24 pick select best available PF/C like Hartenstein, Rabb, Bell
- Jazz will be a nightmare opponent on every given night

18 Jun 2017 14:26:35
No need to bring back Hill to be a backup.

18 Jun 2017 00:58:41
If Lowry leafs in free agency

LA Lakers: Derozan

Philly: Deng+2nd (Jackson)

Phoenix: 3rd (Ball)

Tor:Mozgov+ 4th (Fox)+ 1rnd Miami 2018+ 1rnd pick LA 2018+ 1rnd sac 2019

18 Jun 2017 04:31:31
Boston will own #3 on Monday. If rumors are true!

18 Jun 2017 08:18:12
If we don't believe the Rumors you think philly gives #3, LAL 2018 1st, 2019 Kings 1st and take the 50 million for deng to climb 1 spot?
And lakers give mozgov and deng and #2 for derozan.
I would love that trade for the lakers but not for the others.

17 Jun 2017 19:15:54
Mavericks - Raptors

Mavericks gets:
23th pick
2019 1st rd pick (lottery protected)

Raptors gets:
2019 2nd rd pick

Raptors resign:

Raptors 2017/18

18 Jun 2017 04:09:18
Some were skeptical of Barnes getting all that money but he played fairly well and is still young. With him, Noel and #9 pick Mavs have pieces to lead them into the post Dirk-era. I don't see this trade helping them and don't like the value they are getting back for Barnes.

14 Jun 2017 20:25:08
Pelicans offseason

Let Holiday walk

Trade #1

Pels - Corey Joseph

Raptors - 2 future 2nd round picks

Raps try to clear cap to resign Lowry

Trade #2

Pels - Jeremy Lin

Nets - Tim Frazier, E'twann Moore, future protected 1st

Nets don't gain contracts while adding a first rounder

Sign Tim Hardaway 4 yr 70 mil
Sign Kyle Korver 3 yr 18 mil

Draft pick #40 - Josh Hart


PG - Jospeh - Lin
SG - Hardaway - Hart
SF - Hill - Korver
PF - Davis - Diello
C - Cousins - Asik - Aijanca.

15 Jun 2017 22:59:05
Why would you let Holiday walk? It opens up next to no additional cap space.

14 Jun 2017 06:15:59
Raptors Offseason
(If Kyle Lowry leaves)

-Renounce all other free agents

-Trade Demar Derozan, #23 pick, and Lucas Nogueira to Minnesota for Andrew Wiggins, #7 pick, and Jordan Hill

7- Jonathan Isaac

•Free Agency:
-Sign Nik Stauskas 2yr 14m
-Sign Donatas Motiejunas 1yr 8m
-Sign Randy Foye 1yr 5m

PG: Joseph, Wright, VanVleet
SG: Powell, Stauskas, Foye
SF: Wiggins, Carroll, Caboclo
PF: Isaac, Siakam, Motiejunas
C: Valunciunas, Poetl, Hill.

14 Jun 2017 08:40:19
Stauskas is not FA.

14 Jun 2017 08:41:41
That doesn't interest me at all in I'm Twolves. With their timeline I'd probably not even deal Wiggins for Derozan straight up let alone include #7 too.

14 Jun 2017 11:36:01
I just can't believe that someone is disagreeing over the FACT that Stauskas is not free agent.

14 Jun 2017 12:24:39
I just can't believe you care.

14 Jun 2017 15:50:09
Believe it tonchco. You can say Warriors won the Championship and those same kids will disagree.

12 Jun 2017 22:50:09
Raptors trade Ibaka (s&t), 23th pick
Hawks trade Milsap (s&t)

08 Jun 2017 14:53:28
Raptors trade
Valinciunas and carroll to detroit for
Drummond and bullocks

07 Jun 2017 12:01:00

Nets get Koufos,23rd pick

Kings get Carroll,RHJ

Raptors get Afflalo,2nd from Kings

07 Jun 2017 02:47:19

Thunder get Derozan

Raptors get Oladipo,2 1st round picks

07 Jun 2017 05:48:27
Even if Raptors were to shop Derozan I believe they could get a better offer elsewhere.

03 Jun 2017 13:37:09
Toronto rebuilds if the think Lowry is going to leave.

Toronto gets Wiggins, Aldrich, and no 7 pick

Charlotte gets Derozen and no 23 pick

Minnesota gets Batum and no 11 pick

Toronto gets hometown guy and tip 10 pick to build for the future.

Charlotte gets 2nd star next to Walker

Minnesota gets a guy who think is a better fit next to LaVine. Batum's defense and passing would help Minnesota on both ends of the floor.

03 Jun 2017 15:28:26
so wiggins has less value than batum. even without considering the fact that batum has 4y/ 96M contract, while wiggins is still in his rookie deal, that's still nonsense!

03 Jun 2017 19:36:31
Worst trade I have seen on here in a year. I take it you are from Toronto? Give up Wiggins for Batum? Insane.

06 Jun 2017 01:34:54
This is the worse trade I have ever seen. wolves give up better player and pick and get worse and old you're a joke of a twolves fan please stop posting about them carl.

02 Jun 2017 06:38:21
This trade is on the account the lowry signs somewhere else this offseason and the raptors decide to start a rebuild and not contend in the current lebron era.

Raptors trade:

Demar DeRozan

Lakers Trade:

Julius Randle, D'angelo Russell

Keep in mind once again that this is only if raptors decide to make a rebuild. this would work out quite well for both teams. Lakers could then start going more on the contending side and wait 1 more year and get another hometown guy in George.

2018-19 lineup

Zubac? (free agent?)

with clarkson, nance still off the bence.

02 Jun 2017 15:14:16
That's an ideal trade for the Lakers as long as Ball proves to be able to hit from 3. They'd get a really nice hometown crew with that. I'm not liking that lineup you have though. I don't think Ingram or George should be at the 4, so one would be coming off the bench. The ideal situation is that you have a whole year for Ingram to start with that group at the 3, so you can really see his potential. If he looks like what we all though he should be coming out of Duke, they could flip him for any number of 4s or 5s.

As for the Raptors, it's not a bad trade. If they decide to go full rebuild, there's no point in keeping DeRozan, so you might as well get what you can for him. There would probably be some better deals they can make, but for a guy who doesn't have a great outside shot, it's not going to be anything a ton better than this. The big thing is, he IS the hometown kid, and I have to think that any GM worth his salt would take his players wants and needs into consideration as a tie-breaker. That's the one thing I really liked with Ainge as he went through the rebuild process. For the most part, he put the players who were shipped out into some pretty decent situations. He wasn't making bad deals for himself by any stretch of the imagination, and I don't know what the alternative moves could have been, but all the vets seemed to land in a good spot.

31 May 2017 21:32:11

OKC- 2017 #3 pick, 2018 LAL pick, 19 SAC pick, 19 PHI pick, Jalil Okafor
PHI- Russell Westbrook

The 76ers would be silly not to at least try to offer their abundance of picks to OKC for Westbrook. He would instantly make them contend in the East. If they could pull it off without trading Embiid, Saric, or Simmons I think they make the trade. OKC gets back multiple picks to rebuild quick and allows them to stock as many young guys as possible.

OKC- #23 pick
TOR- Enes Kanter

Kanter is in a log-jam in OKC. The Raptors are losing Ibaka and can replace him with Kanter who is capable of playing the 4.


3- D'Aaron Fox, PG
21- Tony Bradley, C
23- Frank Jackson, SG
1 (own)- Michael Porter, PF
4 (LAL)- Kevin Knox, SF
1 (own)- Zion Williamson, SF
3 (SAC)- Trae Young, PG
20 (PHI)- Shareef O'Neal, PF

2019 Thunder

C- Steven Adams/Tony Bradley
PF- Michael Porter /Shareef O'Neal
SF- Zion Williamson/Kevin Knox
SG- Victor Oladipo/Frank Jackson
PG- D'Aaron Fox/Trae Young

01 Jun 2017 04:37:40
Raps can't take on Kanter's contract without two, much better player, walking. No from Raps.

OKC does not make that trade either.

29 May 2017 04:41:27

Raptors get Crowder , Bradley , BKN 1st 2018 , 1st round swap rights in 2019


Celtics get Derozan , 2nd from Nets


Nets get Carroll , Raptors 1st 2017

29 May 2017 06:21:20
I'm not a Raps fan, but I do live in Toronto and watch him play. I would not give that much up for him if I were the C's. While he's a big time scorer and does share the ball, there are flaws in his game that have been exposed in each of the last two playoffs. He can't shoot the three and is a lazy defender.

24 May 2017 23:49:21
Raptors and hornets

Raptors get Batum and filler

Hornets get JV, Carrol and first round top 10 protected

Then raptors drop filler and resign Lowry Ibaka tucker and let Patterson walk. Raptors can go small with Batum and tucker on the floor. And with Batum they can finally have another scorer on the lineup

Powell gets 6 man minutes and have Joesph and Wright slipt time as back up.

25 May 2017 00:05:16
I actually like the idea but then the hornets will be really weak at SG so maybe swap Powell for Carroll?



19 May 2017 23:56:04
Raptors trade Joseph, Carroll, 23th pick, 1st round pick 2019 (top10 protected)

Pistons trade R.Jackson, Morris

- go all-in to to keep core together, Jackson and Morris are updates over Joseph and Carroll
- safe about 2m cap + let Patterson walk and safe 6m more
- resign Lowry, Ibaka, Tucker
- small lineup: Lowry-Jackson-DeRozan-Tucker-Ibaka

20 May 2017 05:05:41
The Pistons sign off on this in record speed.

20 May 2017 07:06:38
Don't like it for Raptors. Jackson didn't look good at all returning from injury and he would be an extremely expensive backup for next 3 years and reportedly is cancerous in the lockeroom. Also with the extensions Ibaka and Lowry will command Raptors would be deep in the luxury tax for at least next 3 years. Raptors should try and move Carrol but they should be looking for cost effective alternatives. I'd probably be more interested if Jackson wasn't involved and Raptors just kept Joseph.

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