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19 May 2017 23:56:04
Raptors trade Joseph, Carroll, 23th pick, 1st round pick 2019 (top10 protected)

Pistons trade R.Jackson, Morris

Raptors:
- go all-in to to keep core together, Jackson and Morris are updates over Joseph and Carroll
- safe about 2m cap + let Patterson walk and safe 6m more
- resign Lowry, Ibaka, Tucker
Lowry/R.Jackson/Wright
DeRozan/R.Jackson/Powell
Tucker/Powell/DeRozan/Caboclo
Ibaka/Morris/Tucker/Siakam
Valanciunas/Nogueira/Ploetl/Ibaka
- small lineup: Lowry-Jackson-DeRozan-Tucker-Ibaka

20 May 2017 05:05:41
The Pistons sign off on this in record speed.

20 May 2017 07:06:38
Don't like it for Raptors. Jackson didn't look good at all returning from injury and he would be an extremely expensive backup for next 3 years and reportedly is cancerous in the lockeroom. Also with the extensions Ibaka and Lowry will command Raptors would be deep in the luxury tax for at least next 3 years. Raptors should try and move Carrol but they should be looking for cost effective alternatives. I'd probably be more interested if Jackson wasn't involved and Raptors just kept Joseph.

16 May 2017 07:44:26
Raptors Trade: Demarre Carroll
Bruno Cabouclo

Spurs Trade: Danny Green

Carroll and Green both on 10 million dollars contacts. They both kinda need a new change in scenery. Raptors get their 3pt perimeter shooter of the bench, and the Spurs get a backup SF in Carroll behind Simmons and Leonard. Bruno Caboclo a wild card talent to sweeten the deal as Green>Carroll.

16 May 2017 14:34:19
Check the numbers, Carroll is on a much bigger contract ($14.8M for 17-18) than Green. Caboclo has no value, and the Spurs need help at the PG and PF/ C spots, not another SF to back up Leonard. Bad trade for the Spurs.

16 May 2017 14:55:38
Agrew with Triangle. If they trade Green, it would be for cheaper players/ picks to open up cap space or a pg or combo guard. Who knows when/ if Parker will be back and how well he'll beable to play if he does. Manu may retire and really can't be a primary ball handler any more. They need someone who can create shots other than Leonard and I don't think that guy is on the roster right now. Carroll is another 3 and D guy. Pop has a knack for creating those out of athletic 2nd round picks. Why take on that contract for a slightly worse player than Green and guy who can't even crack an NBA rotation right now?

10 May 2017 05:07:10
Nets Valančiūnas 1st dp from raptors

Raptors Jordan

Clippers Lopez extension

Raptors maybe add fillers to nets that's young and to help Raptors get a defensive center to play with ibaka. Clippers need to try something different

10 May 2017 05:31:33
Not certain why Nets are in this. If I'm Clippers I'd much rather prefer the younger Valanciunas and a 1st rounder over Brook Lopez since only scenario Clippers would entertain this type of move is if Paul and Griffin leave and they need to inevitably think about rebuilding.

10 May 2017 14:37:42
Disagree Jaw, if the Clippers plan to keep the team mostly intact this makes sense and if they plan to rebuild, I think they could find a better package for rebuilding than Jonas and a future first for Jordan.

08 May 2017 19:08:11
Raptors need a change but they can still stay competitive. I say trade JV and Carroll for a athletics sf someone who can shoot.

Resign Lowry Ibaka and tucker leave Patterson go...

Or sign and trade Lowry and Jv for a sf. Like Wiggins. Have Joesph start with Wright off the bench. Resign tucker and trade Carroll for draft picks or a bag of balls.

08 May 2017 19:40:55
Hahaha that's hilarious that you think that Lowry and JV can get you Wiggins.

08 May 2017 19:55:15
Raps should be able to move JV, but the Carroll contract looks like a bust. It will be hard to move.

Lowry in a Sign and Trade with a big deal won't be overly attractive.

08 May 2017 20:03:47
Minny has the space to sign Lowry. Why would they give up Wiggins to do so? And why would Lowry want his new team to trade one of their best players? Guys generally go places to win, this makes that less likely.

Again, sign and trades never get you this kind of return. The raptors aren't getting a 20 ppg player for Lowry. The Clippers aren't getting porzingis for griffin or Paul.

08 May 2017 14:53:15
Kings get Jonas Valencunas and #23

Raptors get Willie Cauley Stein and #10

08 May 2017 15:34:31
Why would the Kings do this? They get older, move back in the draft, take on salary, and don't end up with a player they can build around.

08 May 2017 16:24:06
Because they have the #8 pick too. I knew there would be someone to come on here and just assume that they are trading the only pick they have. so no. they trade ONE of their lottery picks for a near all star level center.

08 May 2017 17:21:19
Yeah but the Kings are in a rebuilding mind set and 2 lottery picks are 10 times better than moving back in the draft and getting yet another center that will not help in getting to the playoffs.

08 May 2017 17:21:49
It doesn't matter how many picks they have, everything rkenne_16 said still holds true. Valanciunas is a solid player but not a superstar. I'd rather keep WCS who also projects to be a solid player who flashed talent when he was finally given consistent minutes after Cousins trade. Additionally, the 10th pick could yield another high upside prospect like Nitlikina.

08 May 2017 17:23:01
They have two picks and almost no young talent. wcs has a chance to develop into a starting Center. He has a chance to be just as good Jonas and the Kings aren't going to be in the playoffs for the forseeable future. They have plenty of time to let him develop.

08 May 2017 17:24:00
This is not a good trade for Kings. Move from mid-lottery to a #23 which likely never develops into a good player. JV has a lot of salary and he's older, while WCS is cheaper and more athletic. Kings would never do this.

09 May 2017 05:11:09
The two assets the Kings are giving up are both better than the two that the Raptors are giving up.

Do you really think Valencunis has value in today's NBA?

08 May 2017 14:48:50
Dallas gets Jonas Valencunas

Toronto get #9 pick, Seth Curry, and Dwight Powells bad contract

08 May 2017 15:25:25
Seth Curry and Dwight Powell are bad contracts?

08 May 2017 15:36:28
Again you have a rebuilding team getting older, taking on salary and losing a draft pick for a player that doesn't do much for them.

08 May 2017 16:26:23
Again, READ BETTER. I said DWIGHT POWELLS bad contract. He makes 10 million a year and averages 6ppg.

08 May 2017 16:28:52
Did I miss the memo on Jonas Valencunas not being a premier center anymore? . this draft kinda sucks after the top 3.considering the deal that OKC got for Serge Ibaka last year I think you "EXPERTS" are wrong about it not being believable.

08 May 2017 17:07:04
Premier Center? Cousins, Jordan, Drummond, Townes, Lopez, Embiid, Gasol, Vucivic, Whiteside, Turner, Howard, and Gobert are all hands down better than Jonas. He's a starting center, bur no where near an allstar.

08 May 2017 17:24:49
Although #9 is a little rich for my taste what makes the trade worse is that Mavs just got Noel. After the situation he left getting another center that would potentially start over him would just be cruel. Mavs will likely have their eyes on Markkanen as Dirks replacement if he is still available at #9 or go point guard.

08 May 2017 19:18:02
This draft is believed to be very deep (12-15 or so) . The top 3-5 are certainly above the rest, but I think the next 8-10 picks are going to be high value guys, guys that would normally go 3-5 in past drafts.

Jonas is an average starting center. He's a top 20 center, but probably not top 10. He's paid an average amount, not overpaid at all.

Your comparison to Ibaka is very similar. And look at how HORRIBLE that trade was for Orlando. It's a cautionary tale for this trade.

08 May 2017 21:57:24
4 people disagreed to a comment of Dwight Powell averaging 6ppg and making 10million a year. it's a FACT and not something that you can disagree with.

08 May 2017 23:23:47
He makes 8.3 million this year, which isn't terrible for a backup center.

09 May 2017 20:29:26
If Drummond is on the list JV is on the list both different players and Jv can be really good if coach would utilize his skills. Big guy down low with smooth touch and cam step out and hit the 15 footer.? Reminds me of a young bosh but much bigger. JV can learn to play better defence but he fades in games because he dosent get the ball? Defensive center don't fade because they there for defence but the offence sucks and guys like Drummond don't get touch. So if raptors were to trade JV for Drummond it would work out but do t tell me JV isn't as good as the other center.

01 May 2017 21:10:22
Pelicans CP3 S&T

Clippers top 5 Valanciunas noah Holiday S&T future picks from pelicans

Knicks Griffin sign and trade

Raptors Jordan

Clippers rebuild.. knicks keep melo trade top 5 Noah for Griffin clippers will take Noah contract to get top 5...pelicans get cp3 to go win now mode...raptors get a defensive center to pair with ibaka

01 May 2017 23:10:49
Knicks can sign Griffin out right so they have no reason to give up their pick (the way lottery works Knicks can only get top 3 or 7th/ later pick and only 18.3% chance they get a top 3 pick) .

Pelicans would be wise to go after CP3 as he would be a major upgrade over Holiday and would in theory be deadly when paired with Davis and Cousins. Pelicans would need to do a sign and trade in order to afford Paul. Not certain how willing Paul would be to return to Nola since although Cousins and Davis are better it seems eerily similar to the Clippers where most of cap would be devoted to 3 star players with little depth or assets to acquire depth around them.

Not certain why Clippers would do a straight swap of Jordan for Valanciunas, I understand he is younger but Clippers should be able to get more than that either from Raptors or elsewhere.

02 May 2017 15:27:27
Why would the Knicks bring in Griffin of all people when their best two players play at his position? If they're trying to create a complete team of 4's this makes some sense, but that's the only way. If they're looking for a Clipper, Paul and Redick would both be better choices. or Jordan if they wanted it to be a trade. Sure Melo CAN play the three, and Porzingis CAN play Center, but that doesn't mean they should. Right now both are stretch 4's where Porzingis also brings rebounding and defense. They should be, and I think they are, looking to move Melo to improve any of the other positions. ideally a Center. Then you draft a point guard or shooting guard (Smith, Fox, Monk) and sign the other (Paul/ Holiday, Redick/ Korver) . That doesn't give you a championship, but it's going to give you a competitive squad with young pieces to build around.

02 May 2017 23:52:53
I think a return to where it all started for CP3 could actually extend his game, having AD and DC as teammates. Factor in Pels Owner Tom Benson is up in age and just had a nasty fight w children over his assets both in teams and properties. I could EASILY see him exceed the cap to become only Owner to have a Lombardi and NBA Championship ( to my knowledge anyway) That all being said i don't see it happening. Pels might be better to try and sign Teague at PG or Reddick at SG and roll w Holiday.

26 Apr 2017 17:37:42
Toronto gets George

Indiana gets Kanter, Singler, wright, Sabonis, Siakam, Grant, 3 1st from Toronto, and 3 swaps.

OkC gets Carroll, Young, and Miles

Toronto ends up with a player that can help them take the next step. They end up with a top 3 starting line up.

Indiana gets a ton of young talent and picks to start a rebuild. There isn't a sure fire star there, but the Pacers seem to have a good track record of developing young talent and they end up with a lot.

OkC surrounds Russell with the shooters he needs. The team could end up similiar to what Houston currently has.

26 Apr 2017 20:10:51
There's obviously other teams besides Toronto who would want george. All of them could put together a better package.

23 Feb 2017 17:54:38
raptors : chandler, gary harris
nuggets : poetl, powell, sullinger, 2017 1st round

23 Feb 2017 16:24:31
raptors : chandler, barton
nuggets : poetl, powell, sullinger, 2017 1st round pick

21 Feb 2017 04:50:25
Knicks/ Raptors

To TOR: Holiday

To NYK: VanFleet, 2017 2nd

Raptors are looking for a wing with Ross leaving, and get one on the cheap in Holiday. His 3PT % is similar to Ross', and he plays better D. With Wright back, VanFleet drops to number four on the Raptors PG depth chart.

Knicks take a chance on VanFleet as a potential backup for the future, along with securing another pick in the upcoming draft.

21 Feb 2017 05:07:14
Holiday for Wright.

20 Feb 2017 17:26:42
TOR / PHO

Raptors get P.J. Tucker
Suns get P. Patterson

20 Feb 2017 19:04:56
Raptors need to add a 2nd rounder or something of interest. Lots of teams are looking at Tucker so I think there will be better offers than this around.

16 Feb 2017 23:53:55
Memphis - Cory Joseph, future 2nd round pick
Toronto - Vince Carter

17 Feb 2017 01:35:08
No from Raptors.

17 Feb 2017 16:39:14
If the Raptors were in the basement, I could see something like this from a nostalgia standpoint. Joseph is too valuable to their team to make the move at this point though. Maybe for Patterson and a second though. I like Patterson, but he's hurt too much.

16 Feb 2017 17:43:09
Den-Tor

Raptors get Gallinari, Faried

Nuggets get Patterson, Sullinger, Joseph, Poetl, Tor 2RDP (17,18)

16 Feb 2017 18:21:53
If Denver were to be dumping faried and Gallo as this is suggesting, I'd think they'd want younger guys and maybe atleast one first.

16 Feb 2017 19:23:56
TOR just dealt for Ibaka. Why would they be trying to deal for Faried? I could see Gallo replacing Ross's offense but why Faried?

16 Feb 2017 20:15:05
In case they aren't able to re-sign Ibaka.

16 Feb 2017 22:04:34
Val Ibaka Faried which one would come off the bench and be okay with it?

16 Feb 2017 22:52:29
Its not terrible but with Nuggets in playoff contention I think they'd want more.

16 Feb 2017 04:15:58
Raptors / Pistions

Raps get- KCP/ Drummond/ Johnson
DET get- JV/Cory J/Siakam/Sully/1st 17/1st 18

16 Feb 2017 06:44:49
Take sully and kcp out and I think that's a mutually beneficial trade.

16 Feb 2017 09:24:06
Detroit hangs up quickly.

16 Feb 2017 04:08:35
Raptors / Suns

Raps get - Tucker
Suns get- Sully/Siakam 2nd 18

16 Feb 2017 07:05:08
I don't think Suns do this. They'd want more.

16 Feb 2017 07:51:45
No from Suns!

16 Feb 2017 09:05:57
Tucker is an expiring contract. He has very little value to the Suns as one of the worst teams in the league and he being over 30 on a young team. He is unlikely to resign there and a few teams are interested in him so I think they'd be wise to trade him to highest bidder. Personally I think Suns would be fine taking a 2nd rounder for him but this offer is even better. Sully is an expiring contract but Siakam has looked alright and is a solid young big man that gives Suns flexibility to potentially let Len walk and not overpay him. Getting the future 2nd also doesn't hurt.

Siakam is a bit undersized for center position and has no natural role on the Suns team currently but due to his youth and the fact he is signed for a few more years makes him a better fit on Suns than Tucker. I think this offer is definitely enough for Suns to deal Tucker its just a question of what other offers Suns get for him.

23 Feb 2017 20:25:28
They basically did do this. Siakam for 2 second Rd picks.

15 Feb 2017 21:37:21
Knicks/ Raptors

To NYK - Sullinger, 2018 2nd

To TOR - Thomas

It's known that the Raptors are looking for a SF. Tucker I'm sure would be their first choice, but it looks like the Suns are looking for a first, which seems a little high for an upcoming FA. Lance Thomas comes for cheaper and still provides decent D and shoots the 3 at a 39% clip for his career.

For the Knicks, they clear cap space for the offseason, and get a pick back.

15 Feb 2017 18:27:05
With the Pistons now shopping Reggie Jackson and Andre Drummond, why not trade them both for players better suited for Van Grundy. Also, this helps the Magic on the defensive end which is geared towards Frank Vogels philosophy.

Andre Drummond, Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson

For

Elfrid Payton, Mario Hezonja, Nikola Vucevic and the Toronto Raptors first rounder.

Orlando Magic starting lineup
Reggie Jackson
Evan Fournier
Terrence Ross
Aaron Gordon
Andre Drummond

Detroit Pistons starting lineup
Ish Smith
Kentavius Caldwell Pope
Tobias Harris
Marcus Morris
Nikola Vucevic

15 Feb 2017 19:02:58
Detroit says hello no. Drummond alone is worth all that flotsam, considering more than half the league doesn't want a 1 way offensive center, even on their roster.

15 Feb 2017 15:09:52
Suns : poetl, patterson, 2nd round pick
Raptors : tucker, chandler

15 Feb 2017 02:12:21
Raptors : knight, tucker
Suns : poetl, powell, patterson, pick

15 Feb 2017 05:14:56
So, Knight, Joseph and Lowry hmmm. Raptors say no.

15 Feb 2017 06:18:08
Not certain why Raptors would want Knight but I could see them interested in Tucker to sure up their backup sf spot with Ross traded. I don't think it would take much more than a 2nd rounder to get him tho.

15 Feb 2017 16:23:04
Jaw457 i can guarentee that toronto will not get tucker for a 2nd round pick. For one their 2nd round pick is prob. going to be one of the last 5 picks. Plus tucker is a top 5 defender, but noesnt get the recognition because the suns aren't in the playoffs. He can cover every position on the court, and is vital to the development of booker.

 
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