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15 Oct 2019 22:00:26
I wouldn't do this if I was the Knicks. But Detroit is willing to make this package available, I would strongly consider it. I like Frank better than Payton and Smith.

Ntilikina Trier Dotson
for
Thomas Makhailliuk Brown Det 2020 1st 10 protected

Jackson/Rose/Ntilikina
Galloway/Trier/Dotson
Kennard/Johnson/Snell
Griffin/Maker/Doumbouya
Drummond/Morris/Wood

Payton/Smithjr/Thomas
Barrett/Ellington/Brown
Knox/Bullock/Makhailliuk
Randle/Morris/Brazdeikas
Robinson/Portis/Gibson

If I was Knicks I would follow that with this

Grizzlies get SMithjr Payton Biyombo NY 2020 1st
Knicks get Morant T.Jones
Hornets get Valanciunas Anderson
Detriot 2020 1st

Morant/TJones/Thomas
Ellington/Mikhailliuk/Brown
Barrett/Knox/Bullock
Randle/Morris/Brazdeikas
Robinson/Gibson/Portis

Smithjr/Payton/Melton
Allen/Brooks/Bullock
Jackson/Crowders/Cabolco
Clark/Rabb/Solomon
Jackson/Biyombo/Plumlee

15 Oct 2019 22:04:29
But why would the Grizzlies do that?

15 Oct 2019 01:25:47
4 team trade
DALLAS-DETROIT-OKC-MEMPHIS

DALLAS GETS DRUMMOND and IGGUDOLA

DETROIT GETS ADAMS

OKC GETS HARDAWAY AND JACKSON

MEMPHIS GETS LEE

TRADE WORKS ON TRADE MACHINE

OKC GETS JACKSON AND TELLS HARDAWAY NOT TO REPORT AS THEY WILL TRADE HIM. HE WILL NOT BE A PART OF TEAM WHEN OPTION COMES UP WHICH MEANS THEY GET MUCH NEEDED CAP RELIEF.

DETROIT GETS ADAMS WHO WILL.BE BETTER NOW THAT HE IS NO LONGER IN WESTBROOKS SHADOW AND COULD BE WILLING TO SIGN LONG TERM.

MEMPHIS GETS LESS EXPENSIVE LEE AND CAP RELIEF NEXT SEASON..

DALLAS GETS CENTER IN DRUMMOND AND IGGY TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP ALONG WITH 3PT SHOOTING...

15 Oct 2019 20:41:23
And what draft picks are Dallas giving up to make this happen?

14 Oct 2019 09:51:04
Atlanta: Drummond

Detroit:Vucevic+1rnd pick OKC 2022 (lottery protected from atlanta)

Orlando: C Parsons+ Reddish+ 1rnd pick Brooklyn 2020(lottery protected from Atlanta)

Atl:
C: Drummond
PF:Collins
SF:Hunter
SG:huerter
PG:Young

Drummond would be a beast surrounded by all those shooters and Atlanta would improve on the defensive end too.

14 Oct 2019 15:14:13
Drummond+Collins pairing would concern me a little. Also, not sure Drummond plays well at the pace ATL plays.

12 Oct 2019 22:36:37
Clippers/Pistons January 15 or February 8

Clippers Trade Ivica Zubac Moe Harkless Jerome Robinson Rodney McGruder 2020 first round pick 2020 second round pick & 2021 second round pick

Pistons Trade Andre Drummond

Clippers receive Andre Drummond

Pistons receive Ivica Zubac Moe Harkless Jerome Robinson Rodney McGruder 2020 first round pick.via Clippers 2020 second round pick.via Clippers 2021 second round pick.via Clippers

13 Oct 2019 03:53:51
Stealin' from my posts, smooth?

13 Oct 2019 04:09:05
That's not enough for Drummond.

12 Oct 2019 18:26:27
OKC DET

OKC get Jackson (exp), Galloway (exp), Snell, 2020 lottery protected 1st

DET get Gallinari (exp), Schroder

DET Start Rose at PG and have Schroder come off the bench. Schroder has a better attitude about coming off the bench than Jackson. They are similar players and Schroder is a lil cheaper. They add Gallinari to give them another scorer to really help their offense and help their playoff chances. In the East Rose, Gallinari, Griffin, and Drummond should be enough to make the playoffs they barely missed the playoffs last year and they add Gallo and Rose which makes them better.

OKC adds another 1st which is the main reason they do this. They get back a couple of expiring contracts for Gallinari's expiring contract so they still open salary next year. Snell's contract goes past this year, but they get rid of Schroder who's contract also goes past this year. Jackson won't want to come off the bench but they make him for the rest of the season then let him walk in FA.

12 Oct 2019 19:21:18
No pick add Adam and Drummond.

12 Oct 2019 21:32:56
Im going to correct my self i said DET barely missed playoffs last year when they made the playoffs they got 8th seed.

12 Oct 2019 01:14:18
Bucks/OKC/Pistons Three Team Deals Trade Deadline February 8

Bucks Trade Eric Bledsoe Khris Middleton

Pistons Trade Andre Drummond Tony Snell 2023 first round pick (Top 10 protected)

OKC Trade Chris Paul

Bucks receive Chris Paul Andre Drummond

OKC receive Eric Bledsoe Tony Snell 2023 first round pick (Top 10 protected).via Pistons

Pistons receive Khris Middleton

07 Oct 2019 09:17:34
The next days Mavs play OKC and Detroit.

Dealing for Adams and Iggy would add some defense to Dallas!

Mavs:
- Adams, Ferguson, Iguodala
OKC:
- Hardaway, Jackson, 1st pick
Grizzlies:
- Lee, 3x2nd pick

07 Oct 2019 14:00:02
Dallas is not getting enough for Lee.

07 Oct 2019 18:17:25
We gratefully acknowledge, a Fredman post that is not nonsense!

06 Oct 2019 20:15:01
OKC: Hardayway, 1st pick

MAVS: Adams, Ferguson

If DET doesn`t extend Drummond, Mavs could send Adams for Drummond.

06 Oct 2019 20:37:02
Hardaway is basically Adams, and Ferguson is worth more than a first.

07 Oct 2019 14:03:39
Why so much negativity for Darry's evaulation of OKC players?

06 Oct 2019 18:11:08
Bucks/Blazers/Hawks/Pistons 4 Teams Deal February 8 Trade Deadline

Bucks Trade Brooks Lopez Wesley Matthews 2020 second round pick 2021 second round pick

Pistons Trade Blake Griffin Luke Kennard

Hawks Trade Chandler Persons 2022 first round pick.via Thunder

Blazers Trade Zach Collins Hassan Whiteside

Bucks receive Hassan Whiteside Luke Kennard

Blazers receive Blake Griffin

Hawks receive Zach Collins Brooks Lopez

Pistons receive Wesley Matthews Chandler Persons 2020 first round pick.via Blazers 2022 first round pick.via Thunder 2020 second round pick.via Bucks 2021 second round pick.via Bucks

06 Oct 2019 18:54:24
So are the Blazers trading their 2020 1st?

06 Oct 2019 19:01:04
BrookLopez+Matthews+2SecondRounders for Whiteside+Kennard?

06 Oct 2019 19:08:13
Yes they’re.

06 Oct 2019 21:27:48
Bucks doesn’t have first round picks to give up to unload.

06 Oct 2019 03:01:01
Blazers/Pistons/Hawks Trade Deadline February 8

Blazers Trade Hassan Whiteside Zach Collins 2020 first round pick

Hawks Trade Chandler Persons 2020 first round pick

Pistons Trade Blake Griffin

Hawks receive Hassan Whiteside

Pistons receive Chandler Persons Zach Collins 2020 first round pick (Top 10 protected).via Hawks 2020 first round pick.via Blazers

Blazers receive Blake Griffin

06 Oct 2019 13:07:48
Winner!

06 Oct 2019 13:59:11
Why are the Hawks trading a first to swap Parsons for Whiteside? What’s the logic there?

06 Oct 2019 17:46:27
Because pistons going to also ask hawks to unload first round pick to take Chandler Persons Expiring contract.

07 Oct 2019 02:25:14
But that makes no sense. Atlanta is trading an expiring contract for a bigger expiring contract. And that costs them a first? Absolutely no sense whatsoever.

06 Oct 2019 02:59:21
MAVS/CAVS/PISTONS

This trade passes on trade machine.

MAVS get Drummond from Detroit
get Osman from Cleveland

CAVS get Hardaway and Jackson
from Dallas

Pistons get Lee from Dallas
get Thompson from Cleveland

WHY DETROIT,,,both expiring contracts that could be resigned if they fit team... Most likely will not resign Drummond so this opens up cap space.

WHY CLEVELAND,,, upgrade at shooting guard and young player who fits into budget with control for two seasons while also opening up cap space..

WHY DALLAS,,, Fills need for a defensive rebounder and pick and roll player to feed off Luka and Porzee. Also allows Dallas chance to sign Drummond to extension in same manner as Porzingis deal.

06 Oct 2019 11:03:43
That’s awful for the Cavs. Hardaway and Clarkson are the same guy. Osman is currently their starting sf. Why give up young talent for an inefficient, overpaid sixth man?

Detroit gets shafted even harder in this. They down grade at center, get older, and get a player in Lee that just isn’t very good for one of the better young centers in basketball.

The Mavs give up nothing of value and get back the two
Off valuable players in the trade.

06 Oct 2019 13:08:47
Nice! *applause*.

05 Oct 2019 13:25:38
Adams may be one of the best defenders of the paint.
Hardaway in NY was playmaker and 1 scoring option, when he was overhelmed. But as a 6th man or a 3rd scoring option, when he gets got looks from his teammates he may be able to hit the numbers, that he had in Atlanta with 45++ shooting - and hense a quite good SG in this league since he has the physics to be a good defender. OKC asking high but in this trade it may fit for each Team!

Detroit:
- Adams
- Hardaway
- Burton
- 2nd Mavs

OKC:
- Lee
- Galloway
- J.Jackson
- 1st Mavs

Dallas:
- Drummond
- Snell
- K.Thomnas

With Hardaway and Adams Detroit will be a better Team offense and defense!

OKC gets a prosect wing a 1st.

Mavs get a strong 2way force in the middle and with Snell / Thomas 3$D players, when Thomas will have time to develop.

Win - Win - Win

05 Oct 2019 14:27:16
Another 1 sided Dallas trade. That’s surprising.

05 Oct 2019 15:20:41
This is wonderful.

05 Oct 2019 15:56:32
No clue that Porzingis and Drummond is too slow for today nba especially with Doncic on the wing. Fouling would be their only def.

05 Oct 2019 21:51:57
Y are right, it is the question if it would work well and it is a risk for Dallas. Basically it is a risk to have Drummond when everybody goes small.
But I see a big chance it may work in Dallas because Drummond is not only big he is quite mobil. He brings rebound, he may able to improve defense, when the Porzee is beside him, he is good in catch and roll and have a soft hand to score inside, beside dunkings but he can also pass the ball. To be quick I think Thomas could develop himself to start with Wright in the backcourt and then you have 4 shooters around Drummond and that may be a great fit.

A differnt way, risky but I would enjoy the vision how it could work! The good thing is, it could become proven for one season and Mavs could extent Drummond max if it works out this year! Because they would have a young team overall - if it works well. Detroit would not, Jackson and Griffin are already in their prime or at the end of it, this is why I think they would not invest a max. But with Adams and Hardaway they would have midterm the better team! OKC Jackson and the 1st pick and expiring contracts, exactly what they ask for. So this may be one of the better and realistic trade proposales of mine! : )

05 Oct 2019 09:30:19
Minnesota x Detroit

Culver, okogie, dieng, teague, 2020 first, 2020 second and phila's 2022 second rounders

For

Blake griffin and reggie jackson

Rosters are here

Rose, teague
Culver, svi
Okogie, brown
morris, sekou
Drummond, maker

Reggie
Wiggins
Covington
Blake
Towns.

05 Oct 2019 09:55:55
1. The Wolves are not win-now. In fact, they didn’t re-sign any of their vets (Taj Gibson, Anthony Tolliver, Saric (traded for a better rookie), Tyus Jones, Derrick Rose), and brought in youth that match KAT’s timeline. They have no bench.

2. MIN is not a free agent destination, so giving up last year’s 1st, this year’s 1st, and next year’s 1st to get off Dieng and eventually get cap space is the wrong direction.

MIN will likely spend this season trying to develop their youth, and letting bad deals take a year off. They need to be good in 3-4 years, when Towns has the leverage to ask for a trade - not use up those assets now.

05 Oct 2019 11:06:49
What a wonderful trade idea! Thanks for sharing.

05 Oct 2019 15:57:35
Fredman 🤣.

04 Oct 2019 07:16:01
Portland: B Griffin

Boston: Nurkic

Detroit:Bazemore+ J Brown+1rnd pick Portland

04 Oct 2019 15:31:08
Seems like if that's the asking price, that Portland could get Griffin without giving up Nurkic (who to me has considerably more value than Brown when healthy) . Selling low on Nurkic and relying on Whiteside is a bad long term move.

Something like Whiteside, Simons, Little, and 1-2 firsts for Griffin, Morris, and Frazier. Seems like similar value to Detroit.

04 Oct 2019 16:42:29
gasupo the season is about to start Detroit is not trading Griffin.

04 Oct 2019 17:29:37
Shizzee: I would assume this is a post-Dec 15th deal, not today. I don't think any team is making a team changing trade the week before camp.

05 Oct 2019 02:23:57
Yeah Boston shouldn't be in this trade. Griffin to Portland only sense only if they keep their core.

03 Oct 2019 19:54:36
Hayward, brown, memphis pick and milwaukee pick with atlanta second rounder
For
Blake griffin and luke kennard
Boston
Kemba, wanamaker
Smart, langford
Tatum
Blake
Enes, tako fall
Detroit
Rose, reggie
Svi, brown
Jaylen, sekou
Hayward, morris
Drummond, maker
What do you think?

03 Oct 2019 20:04:09
Have to assume this is a joke.

03 Oct 2019 20:44:38
Too many players on Boston's roster that need the bsll in their hands to be effective. Walker, Tatum, Griffin, Kanter, which one is taking a step back and playing off the ball?

03 Oct 2019 21:02:42
I like it. The Celtics fans on here are all Hayward stans though.

04 Oct 2019 15:34:22
Why would this be a joke Supercollider? This puts Boston in the top 3 of the east without a doubt. If you think this is too much for Griffin, then you are severely underrating Griffin (who was third team all NBA last year) . He would probably be the best player on that team.

03 Oct 2019 17:47:02
OKC is looking to move Adams a similar player to Drummond better on the defense site, less on offense or rebounding. Drummond is seeking a 5y MAX that Detroit may be not able to offer. 76ers have a lot of 3&D players but less creating scorer forwards. Mavs need 3&D and in may point of view a force in the middle!

Detroit:
- Adams
- Hardaway
- Burton

OKC:
- Lee
- Galloway
- K.Thomas
- 1st Mavs

Dallas:
- Drummond
- Snell
- Z.Smith

76ers:
- Justin Jackson


OKC:
Get their 1st pick, a young player and expiring contracts.

Detroit:
Adams / Hardaway are updates over Drummond / Snell and are two 2y on contract, have space to develop exactly to the pieces that Detroit needs beside Griffin, Jackson/Rose and the young guys and may not as for a MAX extention.

Dallas:
Get the two way force in the middle that they can pay and will have Curry, Snell and ZSmith on 3&D / 3er shooting guard

76ers:
Get a forward that can score and create his own shoot, similar to and to backup Tobias Harris

03 Oct 2019 20:39:10
No way Philly does that. Pistons also say no.

03 Oct 2019 20:50:40
76ers say no. Scoring is not the 76ers issue.

Detriot probably passes as well as they to will want a draft pick to trade away Drummond.

04 Oct 2019 17:42:13
Really another Drummond trade idea. 1st of all, drummond and Porzingis front court with doncic will loose 50 games. Every team will run on them. Powell is perfect compliment to Porzingis. Just be happy if Porzingis plays 70 games with outgetting injuried. 7'4" guys after knee surgery are very deceptive to more injuries.

03 Oct 2019 14:32:24
Detroit: G Hayward+ 1rnd pick Denver

Boston: M Turner+ TJ Warren

Indy: B Griffin+ 1rnd pick Memphis


Drummond is a double double beast, but he need shooters arround him, Hayward would be a good scoring option in that team.
C: Drummond
Pf:Maker
SF:Hayward:
SG:Kennard
PG:D Rose

Boston:
C:M turner/ Kanter
PF:Tatum/theis
SF:Warren/Brown
SG:Smart/Langford
PG:Walker/Smart

Indy:
C:Sabonis/Bitadze
PF:B Griffin/Leaf
SF:McDermott/J Holiday/Lamb
SG:Oladipo/Lamb
PF:Brogdon/A Holiday

03 Oct 2019 14:49:35
The only first not owned by Denver is owned by OKC so I do not understand why there is a Denver first involved in this trade.

03 Oct 2019 21:37:57
* milwaukee pick.

03 Oct 2019 00:45:33
Bucks/Pistons February 8 Trade Deadline

Bucks Trade Khris Middleton

Pistons Trade Andre Drummond

Bucks sign Carmelo Anthony 2yrs 4 millions

Pistons receive Khris Middleton

Bucks receive Andre Drummond

03 Oct 2019 07:20:47
Why would Milwaukee do this?

Talent wise it's fair, but Milwaukee need Middleton. Drummond is a beast, but milwaukee, needs shooters and defense and that'w what Middleton brings.

02 Oct 2019 23:31:59
Pistons:
- T.Thompson
- Hardaway
- 1st Mavs

76ers:
- Jackson

Cavs:
- Lee
- 2x2nd Mavs

Mavs:
- Drummond
- Snell
- Z.Smith

Dallas gets needed 3&D and a force in the middle.
Cavs get 2 picks finally for Thompson that will not extend.
76ers get a scorer backup for T.Harris that can create by himself. Jackson was pick 15/2017, Z.Smith pick 16/2018 think a exchange.
Pistons get another zoneplayer and a good scoring wing, that may help them well if he is health and scores the numbers he did in ATL 45%/35%.

03 Oct 2019 00:20:14
There’s actually talk that if they can get TT cheap, they may extend him. There’s a solid chance he’ll be traded, but if that’s all they can get for him/ his expiring, they probably value him more as a veteran leader that can still help the rookies on the floor and wants to be in Cleveland.

03 Oct 2019 00:37:43
Pistons say no.

03 Oct 2019 00:53:43
Pistons say no, 76ers say no, and Cavs say no.

03 Oct 2019 16:44:21
no, no, no? Wait a minute! Yes? Yes! Yes. ; )

02 Oct 2019 07:45:01
Det: A gordon+Wiggins

Minny: B Griffin

Orl: R Jackson+ T Snell+ 1rnd pick Minny 2020 and 2022 (lotetery protected)

 
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