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18 Apr 2019 22:14:41
This how Boston should try and get Davis.

Trade heyward for Thompson and henson

Resign Irving and rozier.

At deadline trade rozier for expiring contracts and a pick.

In 2020 have Irving smart brown tatum and lots of cap and other young players sign Davis.

18 Apr 2019 21:29:24
Does anybody think KD and Westbrook could team up again on the Knicks if Kyrie resigns w the Celtics?

Maybe a trade like Barrett #2, Smith Jr and Knox if they can't get AD?

Sign Wilson Chandler and Al Farouq Aminu


18 Apr 2019 22:04:58
Westbrook stay and get a better coach to help his shot selection.

18 Apr 2019 00:52:16

NOLA get 3 BOS 1st round picks, Tatum & Bazemore (exp)

ATL get Hayward & MEM 1st

BOS get Davis & Prince

18 Apr 2019 07:11:39
I like it for atlanta and Boston. Atlanta takes on additional salary for a pick and this also gives Hayward a fresh start in a system where he'd get more opportunities. Boston gets their coveted prize (AD) and a solid fill in 3 and d guy still on a rookie deal. I'm on the fence about it for NOLA. The Boston picks don't project very highly so NOLA should look around for better offers. If there's nothing else out there thougg they might have to take it.

15 Apr 2019 01:02:02
Crazy scenario for Boston.

Imagine Boston gets the #2 pick vua Sacramento. This jump in the lottery make the Grizzlies pick convey this year as well.

With their 4 picks, Boston drafts Ja Morant, Bol Bol, Edwards from Purdue and Williams from Tennessee.

Let Irving walk this year and Horford next year. Resign Rozier at the same number as Smart. Tell New Orleans to pound sand about trading for AD.

15 Apr 2019 10:09:10
Yup, that's crazy. Problem is, Ainge isn't crazy. He's pretty damned smart and he wants AD. He will probably get AD.
The other issue I have with this, is they are a championship driven team. They could or would not have 4 rookies on that team. If they were a lottery team, I might see This, but they are not.
Why would they rebuild now, when they could be close to winning #18?

15 Apr 2019 15:01:05
I don't think Ainge would draft Bol, unless it was too good to pass up. Proven players are still worth more than draft picks. ZW is garnering hype, and maybe he is the next James, but that's at least a few seasons away, AD is gift wrapped, ready to go.

15 Apr 2019 15:02:09
it wouldn't be so much a rebuild as a retool, and I've thought about this as well. I like AD a lot, but it really depends on how much they want for him and if they think he will actually stick around.

Either way, the trade for AD and the decision on Kyrie can't happen until after the draft, and I really doubt that NO would want anyone other than Morant at #2, so you have time to think. Ja could easily be the best player to come out of this draft, and with him already in tow, they have a lot of bargaining power on what else goes to NO. If Griffin is stubborn on wanting too much, DA should feel comfortable moving forward.

The ideal would be if Memphis' pick wound up at 4. That would give them someone worthwhile, but probably not an immediate impact like the top two or three guys should have. I don't think I would take Bol at 9 anyway. I'm looking at him with that Clippers pick being a good gamble, but 9 is a bit too high for my taste.

15 Apr 2019 15:03:13
Many reasons why JoeB, including that they do not look like a serious Championship contender right now, don’t have any control whether Kyrie comes back or not, and understand that with no Kyrie, AD is unlikely to re-sign there after next season.

I will give Ainge something, he is smart. If he goes into this offseason with the feeling that Kyrie could walk, and can’t close an AD deal that possibly will convince Irving to stay, I could see a mini reset.

15 Apr 2019 18:24:05
The best part is that they have the assets to keep retooling as is. They've actually played very well when Kyrie sits, despite him being their most talented player. That could just be an anomaly, but it does go to show the talent on the rest of the roster. If they have the opportunity to bring in a Morant, they might see that as being just as good, and then they don't have to deal with the Kyrie headaches that seem to follow him around.

Even if they don't bring in that top pick, they might decide they feel fine moving forward with Rozier and paying the man. Either way, Kyrie/ AD or the rest of the young pieces they currently have, they should have a pretty lengthy championship window. It'll be very interesting to see what direction Danny goes.

15 Apr 2019 19:37:56
I was also thinking a "retooled" Celtics roster will still be competitve against a Raptors team minus Kwahi, a 76ers team minus one of their FAs and a limited Embiid, and a Milwaukee team that has its own FAs to resign and limited financial market.

15 Apr 2019 21:18:13
Bledsoe opted for the most friendly contract possible. The Bucks are sitting pretty going into next season. Even if they lose 2 players they would like to keep.

10 Apr 2019 18:12:18
Think i will try Fredman's plug any team into an Anthony Davis trade then sign Durant

Pels win Lottery, draft Zion

Pels trade AD and Hill to Celtics for Tatum,Brown,Horford, 2019 1sts from LAC Sacramento and Bos

Pels trade Randle,Moore,Diallo Miller 2019 1st Sac and 2021 1st to Wizards for Beal

Pels sign Durant

Draft Cameron Johnson Darius Garland

PG Holiday Jackson
SG Beal Brown
SF Tatum, Johnson
PF Durant Zion
C Horford Okafor

Ok Haters, dive in !! LOL

10 Apr 2019 21:21:17
I’m just not sure why gms haven’t figured out that they just need to draft Zion and sign Durant.

11 Apr 2019 00:43:31
No way the Celtics pay that much for Davis. That said, Davis will be in Boston. ;)

10 Apr 2019 12:55:00
Boston- Brown,Smart,Hayward,kings pick

Washington- Beal,Mahinmi

More picks?

10 Apr 2019 15:58:07
Boston would not make that deal unless Anthony Davis is on the roster first. If Irving goes back on his word and leaves for NY, the Celtics will be back in scrappy mode, and will need Brown, Smart and Hayward going forward. Only Davis could change that narrative.

11 Apr 2019 14:56:53
Your not getting anthony Davis with that package.

13 Apr 2019 01:27:26
Absolutely agree Supercollider.
Not sure why nobody else understands that Boston won't be doing anything until the AD business is addressed, one way or the other.

13 Apr 2019 01:39:37
Shizzee. who said they were getting AD for "that package "?
Apparently, you didn't really read the post. Lmao.

09 Apr 2019 23:24:07
Celtics- pick 2
Suns- pick 12 (Kings), pick 15 (Clippers), 2020 Celtics pick

Celtics- Karl Anthony Towns
T Wolves- Brown, Yabusele, Ojeleye, pick 24 (Celtics), Grizzlies 2020 pick

Celtics- Beal
Wizards- Hayward, Jackson, Brunson, Robert Williams, 2020 mavericks or rockets second rounder, 2021 Celtics second rounder, 2021 Mavericks second rounder
Marvericks- Horford

Celtics Draft Morant, sign Julius Randle, Terry Rozier,

Celtics lineup
Morant/ Rozier

10 Apr 2019 01:33:44
Suns say no, not a deep enough draft to give up a dynamic player like Morant for mid-round picks.

Wolves laugh at that offer.

10 Apr 2019 01:49:10
There is no way Phoenix trades #2 for that package with Ja Morant still on the board.

10 Apr 2019 05:20:18
Not enough for kat.

10 Apr 2019 09:21:18
is this a joke?

10 Apr 2019 12:32:22
Another wonder bread Celtic fan idea 🤣🤣🤣.

10 Apr 2019 15:50:48
You get two all stars and the #2 overall pick, and don’t give up your most valuable asset? Nope, not happening.

None of the trades are incredibly close to fair. But the Beal one seems worst.

10 Apr 2019 17:32:30
I'm a die hard Celtics fan for 50 years, and I can't stop laughing.

The funniest thing for me is, that people are making these proposals that have draft picks like they know where the pick is slotted, which obviously we won't know until June.

06 Apr 2019 21:51:00

BOS get Paul George

OKC get Jayson Tatum & Gordon Hayward

Pg Westbrook
Sg Hayward
Sf Tatum
Pf Grant
Ce Adams


BOS get Davis, Hill

NOP get Horford, Brown, 4 1st round picks

resign Kyrie

BOS Celtics

Pg Irving
Sg Smart
Sf George
Pf Davis
Ce Baynes

06 Apr 2019 22:26:30
If Horford opts in he can't be traded until December 15 2019, it would still be possible if NOP was willing to drag out the Davis/ Klutch drama any further, but I think they conclude all earthly business with Davis in July, quickly.

06 Apr 2019 23:57:40
I would rather have Tatum and Hayward than PG13. Anyway
New Orleans will want Tatum in a deal for AD.

07 Apr 2019 02:45:15
That’s not true. If he opts in, his contract isn’t new, he can be traded the day any time after he opts in.

07 Apr 2019 05:04:00
No it is not, I stand corrected.

08 Apr 2019 09:18:55
What you would prefer Hayward and Tutum over PG? Hayward has negative value with his contract. So you think Tatum has more value than PG. I think this take is pretty eclusive.

08 Apr 2019 23:00:01
Hayward has negative value in a trade, not in real life on a team.

You’re getting Hayward and Tatum for the same price as George, so count them both. It is somewhat close, but I’d take George over them both.

09 Apr 2019 09:36:22
Now I don't get you. You say Hayward has negative value in a trade. But if you say you have to spend the same for Hayward and Tatum than for PG that means Tatum is way more valuable than PG. That's just wrong.
If I had to take PG or Tatum I would take PG by far and I'm sure every GM as well. So how do you come to your take?
You have to build a team and if you spend 30 million on an average player like Hayward you can't keep others.

09 Apr 2019 23:09:54
Absolutely would rather have Hayward and AD over PG13, every day of the week ;)

05 Apr 2019 05:12:22
MEM 1st
BOS 1st



SAC 1st
BOS 2nd


Re-sign Irving, Morris

05 Apr 2019 11:20:30
When all the dust settles late this summer, Morris (and Rozier) will be gone and Hayward will stay. Nothing else is certain.

05 Apr 2019 12:14:45
I'm not sure what dust your sniffing. Rozier Morris staying irving is gone.

05 Apr 2019 14:40:41
***You're, not your.

05 Apr 2019 15:01:16
Replace Boston 2nd rounder with Clippers 1st.

Then watch Boston try to fill out the roster with worthless vet mins.

05 Apr 2019 17:15:20
The first thing the Celtics do is finalize a deal for Davis. Everything else will happen after that. By that, I mean filling out the roster as they see fit.
No way that Beal deal will ever happen.
Can't wait u till the Knicks lose the lottery and Knick fans throw up in their mouths. Lmao.

05 Apr 2019 18:46:05
I don't think the Pels will take Horford, or Hayward, so that means Smart has to be in the deal, which to me explains why Ainge hasn't traded Rozier. Several mentions of BOS not being afraid to spend money, Tatum is a given, and the SAC pick, unless the MEM pick does something odds defying.

Irving, Rozier
Hayward, Brown
Horford/ Davis/ Morris/ Hayward
Davis/ Horford/ Baynes

Only need reserve players at the 2,3 because Brown can play some 3 too. Maybe a PG also for back-up, back-up. Tim Frazier would be easily obtainable. This is bad for the celtics? Picky, picky.

06 Apr 2019 22:00:37
JoeB, Knicks lose lottery, but gain Irving from your C’s, I am good with that. Knicks still get a high pick, C’s get to scramble to re-sign Rozier and Kiss AD goodbye knowing he wouldn’t re-sign with the C’s without Kyrie.

03 Apr 2019 20:12:59


03 Apr 2019 21:14:21
Not sure what the incentive is for the Kings to do thus deal. Rather stick with the 2 expiring contracts.

02 Apr 2019 18:58:33

MEM or SAC 1st whichever is better, if MEM conveys this season
Clips 1st
'20 BOS 2nd

BOS 1st

*Celtics re-sign:

02 Apr 2019 20:03:43
ATL says no.

02 Apr 2019 20:35:52
Celtics have little use for Bazemore or Prince, and they are not going to give up 8 assets for Davis.
Here's the price for Davis:
1. Top-flight starter
2. Another starter
3. Another rotation player
4. First-rounder.

02 Apr 2019 21:55:21
If they give up Tatum, Brown, and Hayward, they have a huge use for Prince and Bazemore.

02 Apr 2019 22:53:08
No way the Celtics give up that much.

06 Apr 2019 21:37:38
Supercollider-The Kyrie Irving deal?

I. Thomas - Tatum
Crowder - Smart
Zizic - Clips 1st already drafted, for NOP

BRK 1st - '20 or '21 MEM pick if not already conveyed, otherwise if it hits for BOS this year a choice between SAC, MEM already drafted for the Pels. Its a blessing for NOP that Ainge and Co. handle the drafting, and aren't going to draft poorly in case things go south with AD deal

Is this about right?

May have to throw Brown in too to make salaries work instead of a pick.

06 Apr 2019 22:33:01
Well SuperCollider, I'm glad you don't set the AD market then

TF Starter Tatum
Starter Rozier
Rotation Brown

Two 1sts 2019 Gets you AD.

06 Apr 2019 21:54:27
the Kyrie Irving deal:

I. Thomas
J. Crowder
C. Sexton

Your AD deal:

R. Williams
Picked MEM or not, or picked SAC

This meets the criteria you laid out, and salary trade rules requirements.

Is this the deal you think Ainge will make? I still think they need to trade Brown, or Hayward too if they take on AD, to make players happier, and win like the roster says it should. Hayward is going to require at least an asset to move. Hayward, Irving, Horford, AD is going to be awfully expensive, I'd shed his deal unless he surprises in the playoffs.

06 Apr 2019 21:52:36
Wait supercollider. Did you just label Hayward as an asset? As in trying to argue he is of positive value? Amazing.

01 Apr 2019 21:59:48
LA Clips


02 Apr 2019 02:19:05
Clips rob the celtics.

02 Apr 2019 05:29:54
I'm not sure how they do it, (AD, maybe) but there is a log jam with Rozier, Tatum, Brown. Hayward. One could stay out of of those guys, but it will cost to move Hayward. Maybe deal only 2. I think that's most of their problem; guys not playing enough has boiled over.

02 Apr 2019 11:00:55
Rozier is a free agent, so they could let him leave.
Irving is up in the air right now. So much smoke about him right now, not sure if he stays or goes at this point.
Plus, Ainge will make a huge push to acquire AD, so Tatum and/ or Brown and others will be gone.
Logjam taking care of.

03 Apr 2019 13:22:38
Irving wants a supermax. The only way Irving says no is if somebody insults his mother or something.

06 Apr 2019 13:25:05
I see a three team deal in play to facilitate the AD deal. The celtics need to move guys around, and the pelicans don't want chemistry issues from Boston carrying over. Brown is done, and can't go where Tatum goes. Irving, Morris definitely would need to sign off on Brown for them, or he to stay on, although Irving has a supermax making him more affable to growing pains than Morris. Rozier will be kept to trade, or S&T I think. Tatum, and or Hayward, Brown Rozier, Morris, Irving, Ainge all need to figure something out. The playoffs will show the scars.

31 Mar 2019 18:55:18
BOS 1st

UTA 1st

29 Mar 2019 17:52:27
S&T Durant to a 3-year, 3rd player option

Hayward, SAC 1st

If Bill Simmons is right about Durant, then Durant is available, and this would help the Warriors long term, and replace Durant, with a cheaper, temporary option. Hayward would do well playing D, and spotting up for 3 in SanFran. I think

29 Mar 2019 21:10:40
Hayward isn't cheap for his production.

29 Mar 2019 21:41:20
Cheaper than Durant.

30 Mar 2019 01:24:50
Dollar wise, but no comparison in talent. Hayward’s contract is not looking good right now, almost wonder if the Warriors would want to make a deal for that contract and go deeper into the luxury tax or not.

31 Mar 2019 05:34:32
Funny, I was looking at Hayward + Kings draft pick for Harrison Barnes. that way Barnes and Horford both come off the books after next season.

31 Mar 2019 06:05:13
GSW would never facilitate a trade to the celtics. This was for fun. Barnes for Hayward, SAC 1st- Divac would be all over that. Hayward has nothing but upside, unless he's permanently hobbled, but I don't think he is. He's had bright spots this season, and I think a physically diligent rehab in the off season could do a lot for him come next season.

31 Mar 2019 14:39:34
Has nothing but upside? You make it sound like he’s a young player continuing to improve. He’s 29 with nine years under his belt. I don’t know that what we’re seeing is an aberration, this could be the new norm from a guy who is not young and is trying to return from that horrific injury. He does have 68 games under his belt this year, and has not shown consistent growth back to the player he was, or even close this season. 68 games is a long enough time to get a feel for where he’s at and where he may go.

31 Mar 2019 15:16:14
Jorgewood, loves to Durant anywhere but in a Knicks uniform. 😉.

31 Mar 2019 15:17:00
Mathews didn't hardly show any explosiveness early on in his return, but has slowly gained it back. Hayward has already looked more explosive at times than Mathews this season. Different injuries, but ligaments, and tendons don't get a lot of blood supply, and healing takes a bit. Mathews was older, and possibly a worse injury.

31 Mar 2019 16:14:30
Durant to NY is so far fetched. Other than a media personality proposing it, where are the bought houses, the family moving to NY? Durant doesn't go anywhere without his mama. Dolan is hated, and the Warriors can offer him the most money. That is more than enough for me to doubt Durant to NY. Quit acting like a child shizzee, and accept the fact that some people don't lie all the time, and therefore don't believe them either. That isn't hating on your knicks, although because of you, and I think you actually care, I hope they lose even more next season. That'd be great right!

06 Apr 2019 21:56:05
I've heard a bunch of Durant to BOS for Hayward and a pick. I don't know that Golden State would want to move him to a team that could really contend with them in that case, but I don't know what other offers are really out there for opt in and trade purposes. Everyone would love to have him, but not many are in the position to have assets to move for him without seriously diminishing their total team. I'm still a Hayward believer, and I would hate to see him moved, but I think he might fit the pecking order better in Golden State, and I wouldn't want to turn down a chance at Durant. They'd still have assets for an AD push too.

28 Mar 2019 14:05:02
Boston should aim for KAT if Irving leaves

Boston: KAT+Covington
Minny: G Hayward+Baynes+ 1rnd pick Sac+1rnd pick clippers+ 1rnd pick Boston+ 1rnd pick Memphis 2020+ 1rnd pick Boston 2020+1rnd pick Boston 2022

Resign Rozier 45M for 3 years
Sign I Thomas 10M 1 year

C: KAT/R Williams
PG:Rozier/ I Thomas

28 Mar 2019 15:13:33
It looks like a minimum guy and I don’t see the Timberwolves being willing to even talk KAT right now and if they were, they would want something ridiculous.

28 Mar 2019 17:15:53
Hayward, LAC 1st for Wiggins, '19 1st.

28 Mar 2019 17:17:08
So, you want Minnesota to trade their 2 best players for mid to late 1st round picks, no young players back, and no salary cap relief?

Yeah, not going to happen.

28 Mar 2019 19:11:45
That's 6 draft picks and two are lottery for sure, that are a lot of assets for a team that 's going to rebuilt.

28 Mar 2019 19:18:24
If Minnesota rebuilds, they will rebuild around KAT. Not look to trade him for pennies on the dollar.

29 Mar 2019 04:36:51
Carl006 is absolutely correct.

31 Mar 2019 10:26:37
How can they rebuild around Kat when they really have no pieces with value. Wiggins and dieng would take assets to move. They need a full rebuild and move kat and Wiggins together.

25 Mar 2019 19:23:52
If the Kings pick jumps up to the #2 overall, I think I would rather the Celtics draft Morant than keep Irving. The team seems to play much better without him, and his media comments just kind of drive me crazy. I think Morant, with his scoring ability but passing attitude, would fit the style of play better as well. In this situation I would draft Morant at 2, Bol at 19 and another big at 22. The way he's been playing I don't think Clarke makes it that far, but a guy like Fernando, Porter or maybe even Hayes might be there.

I'd resign Baynes to a $5 mil-ish deal, and try to see if Horford would be willing to take less...somewhere around $20 mil. If he's willing to do that, then the Celtics would have right around $9 mil to bring in another guard...I'd shoot for Beverly, but there's a few guys out there that would be quality additions.

This would leave you with

PG Smart, Morant, Beverly?
SG Brown, Hayward
SF Tatum, Ojeleye
PF Horford, Clarke?, Yabusele
C Baynes, Williams, Bol

That's a lot of young pieces in Smart, Morant, Brown, Tatum, Clarke, Williams and Bol to work with. It's a team that can compete now, and has enough veterans to help the kids learn with a TON of potential for growth.

25 Mar 2019 23:48:01
Wouldn't worry about that, I'd the pick ends up #2, it will be on the way to New Orleans in a deal for Davis.
I think the pick will be in the deal anyway, but the higher it gets, it lessons what else is in the deal.

26 Mar 2019 02:54:54
Garland is realistic, not morant.

28 Mar 2019 11:24:11
Do not think it is feasible. Since Mavs get the lucky #2 pick. : )

29 Mar 2019 00:31:22
Drainer- don't you mean hawks.

23 Mar 2019 23:12:05
Celtics get Beal Mudiay Wall
Knicks get Irving Davis
Washington get DSJ Hayward Moore Hill Jenkins Dotson dal & ny 2021 & 2023 1st
Pelican get Zion Knox Ojeleye Trier Ntilikina Thomas

Deeper than this yr




24 Mar 2019 00:45:01
Knicks players don't have much value.

24 Mar 2019 02:18:39
Super, you keep saying that. How do you know that, when they are tanking. Most of the games they play great and than they tank. Zion DSJ Knox are very good and young. Trier could be solid bench player. Ntilikina Dotson Jenkins are descent role players. You add 4 more 1st, they give up fair value for those 2. Zion >>Tatum. Your just a bitter Celtics fan. This much jealousy can't be for your hemmoroids 🤣🤣.

24 Mar 2019 10:42:18
Comme on, NY gives up a lot for getting those two players.

I don't think Beal would like this trade, when J Wall is also comming to Boston.

But i think it's fair value for all of them.

24 Mar 2019 12:13:40
Boston doesn't like this deal unless Davis is in Boston. Nothing will stop Ainge from giving his best shot to get AD.
I still believe, who ever gets Williamson, should build around him. He is really looking like the realdeal. I think trading him for Davis is crazy if you are not in position. To win it all the next year or two.

24 Mar 2019 12:14:11
Wall is out 8 months he could be trade trade bait later for Teague type player in his final season. Magic and Suns would jump on it without landing Morant or Garland.

25 Mar 2019 11:23:58
Wall and Conley will be hard to move.

25 Mar 2019 16:19:39
Y Conley he still being productive for a team who can't sign free agents. Like Detroit did with Griffin.

25 Mar 2019 19:09:13
Contract, Age. Look at Lowry, he's still good, really good, when he's healthy. CP3 too, the last few seasons. Someone will do a trade but not for significant value return.

23 Mar 2019 04:41:54
Cavs Get Boston best pick plus Heyward and Boston get love.

23 Mar 2019 23:50:27
Boston says no. Love plays 50 games a year for max. He is a more useless heyward.

24 Mar 2019 01:35:02
Love the better fit. They have brown and tatum.

21 Mar 2019 00:00:35
KD and Kyrie are rumored to want to play with each other. Boston might be the best situation for those two. However, the only way it would be possible is through a sign-and-trade deal with GSW.

Celtics get Kevin Durant

Warriors get Gordon Hayward and Jayson Tatum

The Celtics need to move either Hayward or Horford in order to match KD's projected salary. Celtics would obviously prefer to move Hayward, but the already expensive Warriors are unlikely to want him. However, if the Celtics sweeten the pot by including Tatum, I don't see how the Warriors could pass. GSW stays at a championship level and makes their future much brighter with Tatum. Much better than losing KD for nothing. Celtics set themselves up for true championship contention. Everyone wins.

21 Mar 2019 08:45:53
Hayward is a good fit in GS.

21 Mar 2019 09:09:04
Nothing happens in Boston until Irving opts out and they trade for A Davis. Sorry, but Tatum will probably be in New Orleans.

20 Mar 2019 15:17:05

BOS get Davis, Covington & Moore
- finally pair AD and Kyrie and get 2 serviceable 3 and D wings

Pg Irving/Rozier
Sg Covington/Smart
Sf Hayward/Moore/Ojeleye
Pf Davis/Morris/Yabusele
Ce Baynes/Theis

MIN get Horford & Brown
- get rid of Dieng and get 2 players who can help them. They gave up 2 picks but get a young rising star who could strive in their line up

Pg Teague/Rose/Jones
Sg Wiggins/Okogie
Sf Brown/Bates-Diop
Pf Horford/Saric
Ce Towns/

NOLA get Tatum, Dieng (salary), MIN 1st 2019, MIN 1st 2022 lottery protected, 1st round pick BOS from LAC & MEM, 2nd round pick BOS
- this is plenty of return for their star who wants out. They take Dieng to match salaries but get a ton of assets and let Tatum be their next star

20 Mar 2019 15:51:37
Not enough, and the kicker is you have them take in Deng.

20 Mar 2019 21:04:47
Twolves givingup 2 firsts for overpriced Al and brown?

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