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20 Jul 2017 12:29:16
Boston: LM Aldridge

Spurs: A Horford


I believe both players are a better fit in those teams

20 Jul 2017 14:17:29
I disagree. If I am Boston, I would much rather have Horford. He is a much better defender and he is a good passer for a big (5 apg) . Aldridge is an iso player and him and Thomas together would really hurt the ball movement for Steven's system.

20 Jul 2017 14:43:44
Boston can use a strong inside scorer.
And LMA is on a cheaper and shorter contract.

But maybe the spurs can trow in a second round pick.

20 Jul 2017 17:19:27
Horford made a huge leap in the playoffs. He shoots well from the outside, he passes. He does everything Stevens asks him to do and more. He's not going anywhere.

20 Jul 2017 19:06:14
I doubt Boston would trade Horford unless he's part of a deal for AD to make #'s work.

20 Jul 2017 19:44:54
Personally I think Celtics should try to deal Horford in a deal to get a better rebounding center (their #1 weakness last year and one they haven't really addressed this offseason and lost their 2nd best rebounder in Bradley; tells you how bad a rebounding team they were that a 6ft 2 guard was one of their top rebounders) . With the skilled forwards they've added in Hayward and Tatum I don't think they need quite as skilled a center and can go with a more traditional one.

Aldridge clearly isn't this type of guy and I think they are better of with Horford than him but if they could swing Horford and a non-nets pick or two for someone like Drummond (would be young enough to grow with Brown, Tatum and Smart) or Marc Gasol (equally skilled passer, shooter to Horford but bigger and better rebounder) .

19 Jul 2017 14:18:22
boston: A Davis

NO: J Wall+D Green+ T Parker (release)+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2019

Was: JR Holiday+ 1rnd pick Nets 2018+ 1rnd pick Vancouver 2019+ 1rnd pick Spurs 2018 and 2020

Spurs: A Horford

19 Jul 2017 14:43:55
Beyond ridiculous that an aging, overpriced Horford, 2 mid to late firsts, and the nets pick gets you one of the top 5 players in the game who is under contract for 3 more years, and is only 25. Celtics are committing robbery.

19 Jul 2017 15:17:57
This trade is beyond stupid. The Pels give up AD for Wall basically. Nope.

19 Jul 2017 22:36:19
Boston fans need to stop thinking AD is coming, he's locked up long term and you don't trade locked up under 25 yr old top 5 player. keep dreaming Boston fans, go have another sam Adams.

20 Jul 2017 02:30:00
Agree with all the comments. Washington isn't moving Wall unless he asks out at some point, Davis is even less likely to get moved, and Boston isn't giving any where near enough in this trade to get anyone's attention.

The Wizards are the 3rd best team in the East and are still pretty young. The Pelicans have a chance to be solid this year and even if they aren't they have time to blow
It up and build around Davis.

15 Jul 2017 20:13:53
Celtics are the clear favorites to land Anthony Davis if the Pelicans decide to trade him. It all depends on this season. If the Boogie-AD project didn't work, the Pels will look to trade him and Rebuild. Davis is also a big fan of Gordon Hayward.

Trade:

Celtics get: Anthony Davis

Pelicans get: Jaylon Brown, Marcus Smart, Marcus Morris and Aaron Baynes + 18 Nets Pick, 18Lakers/19 Sac Pick and 19 Grizzlies Pick.

15 Jul 2017 21:19:26
Why is it that Celtics fans live in a 24 hour Fantasy land?

15 Jul 2017 22:35:50
Yes, the C's have the resources to get him, no, the Pels aren't dealing him.

16 Jul 2017 02:38:55
So the. They don't have the resources to get him.

16 Jul 2017 05:25:24
Even though we have the assets to trade for him, it would mean we would have no bench and deplete our stash of picks. Plus even if the AD, Cousins pairing doesn't work I doubt AD is the one that will get moved, AD is a better all around player but he is the face of that team. I am a Celtics fan and don't get me wrong I would love to have Davis on the team but I think it would take a lot and it probably wouldn't be worth it to trade for him, even if he became available.

16 Jul 2017 13:21:37
I'm a Celtics fan. that's unrealistic. The only way Davis gets moved is if he asks, and I just don't see that. If anything, you should be looking at a trade for Cousins. which IS actually something that could happen, and he could be had for a much lesser package. The Brooklyn 1st and salary would likely be able to get it done at that point, as it would still be an upgrade from what they sent out to get him. He'd be on his last year however, and you'd have to throw him into the mix of guys needing to get paid next season.

16 Jul 2017 13:28:17
You'd have to think it would be Crowder, Morris (can't be traded until September, but NO will try the twin tower experiment at least that long) and Smart as the pieces heading to NO. Does a starting lineup of IT, Brown, Hayward, Horford and Cousins have what it takes to win it all this year? Your bench would be Rozier, Baynes and mostly rookies, which does come into play.

17 Jul 2017 16:07:24
@Hamburger It is not that they do not have resources. But unless you are in total rebuild you do not trade a handful of pieces for a Superstar. Pels did not bring Cousins in to enter a rebuild phase.

14 Jul 2017 13:13:23
Boston; Trade deadline moves if the Lakers pick looks like it will be outside the top 5.
IT(S&T) to Clips for Beverly and removal of protection of 2019 pick.
It works on the trade machine but not sure what ITs free agency would do to his value. Would this work? Opinions!?

14 Jul 2017 15:46:54
The trade-Thomas train left town when Boston swapped Fultz for Tatum. If they were going to move IT, Fultz would have been the replacement.

14 Jul 2017 16:15:29
What does the Lakers pick falling out of top 5 have to do with keeping IT? And I personally think that with IT on the Clippers that the protection would be worthless.

14 Jul 2017 21:15:07
I don't think trading IT at the deadline is unrealistic. If DA can find a deal that will benefit the C's this year at the deadline and in the future he wouldn't think twice about moving him. And on the flip side I think that at the deadline Jae Crowder could be flipped, he contract is a bargain and appealing to other teams, probably the reason why they kept him instead of AB.

15 Jul 2017 08:41:46
Taking the protection off the pick increases the value of it as a trade chip for Boston. Clips may be willing to do that instead of adding another pick to even the trade value. I don't think Boston is going to back up the Brinks truck and give IT a MAX contract.

17 Jul 2017 14:10:59
I hope Milos Teodosic will succeed in LA, but this is a great trade for LA.

I don't like this for Boston.
The Clippers will make the playoffs, so dropping the protection isn't a bigg deal.
I would keep IT unless they receive another superstar. I don't understand why Boston fans want to trade him.

10 Jul 2017 07:47:58
Boston Celtics Moves

-I loved the Aron Baynes signing, big banger who can protect the rim

-Waive Demetrius Jackson and Jordan Mickey (if both clear waivers then sign them to 2-way contracts)

-Officially sign Gordon Hayward

-Sign Norris Cole 1yr minimum
-Sign Brandon Rush 1yr minimum
-Bring over Yabusele

Lineup:
Pg: Thomas, Rozier, Cole
Sg: Smart, Brown, Rush
Sf: Hayward, Tatum
Pf: Morris, Crowder, Yabusele, Theis
C: Horford, Baynes, Zizic

-Tatum could be 6th man of year candidate.

10 Jul 2017 12:19:44
I would start Hayward at SG and Crowder at SF. Maybe trade one of Smart or Rozier for a future pick or a PF.

10 Jul 2017 13:29:59
Baynes was a steal, he is a very solid backup center and at that price don't think they could've done any better if they tried. I like the positional versatility of this team with Smart, Brown, Hayward, Crowder, Tatum and Morris all being able to cover 2 maybe 3 positions at times. Smart will be a key tho since he is likely the only one who can chase around opposing top-level point guards (very important with Thomas being an ineffective defender) . Should be a very fluid starting lineup and overall rotation that changes based upon matchups and who is playing well.

They don't really need to make any other major moves but Cole and Rush wouldn't be bad insurance and veteran guidance on bench/ in practice. I wouldn't say Celtics are better than Cavs but with the moves they have made and the lack of moves on Cavs end they certainly closed the gap to the point they should win at least two games.

10 Jul 2017 17:32:41
Baynes will bring that toughness he had in Detroit great pick up. But a lineup with

Thomas
Hayward
Crowder
Morris
Horford

And Tatum which I attended day two in Vegas, he can ball.

10 Jul 2017 04:14:36
Bulls trade Boston

Boston gets r.lopez and Denzel Valentine

Bulls get smart and j.brown


I think this is a great trade for all players can be starters on their new teams.

Bulls don't use Valentine correctly he should have started more but on Boston he could start at sg and good value in Lopez to start at center.

Bulls pg situation is trash but smart has grit and he's another player who I think should start more and brown is another player who can get a lot of playing time with the bulls

10 Jul 2017 04:49:17
In what world does Valentine start for the Celtics? Brown is by far the most valuable player in that deal. That's just really bad for the Celtics.

10 Jul 2017 12:20:46
It is not Danny Ainge's job to single-handedly rebuild the Bulls.

10 Jul 2017 13:34:07
Awful move for Celtics. Valentine didn't start on Bulls for a reason and he'd have an even more difficult time finding minutes on the Celtics. He is a worse player than Brown and has a significantly lower ceiling.

Although Robin Lopez is a solid starting caliber center I much rather have Baynes as a backup at his price tag and keep Smart who is their only defender who can really cover opposing point guards. Also, Horford at this stage of his career is probably better suited to play the majority of his minutes at center since he probably doesn't have the foot speed to keep up with opposing pfs especially with them getting smaller and moving further away from basket in today's game.

10 Jul 2017 13:56:33
Haha I mean it's clearly a bad trade but if you think that constitutes a complete rebuild, you're more nuts than expected troll.

10 Jul 2017 17:33:42
Soon as I saw Lopez I knew the trade was bad. No way this gets done.

09 Jul 2017 20:52:02
Celtics - Raptors

Toronto get Crowder and Jerebko

Boston get Valanciunas

Only work if Jerebko accept a 7m range s&t

09 Jul 2017 21:27:15
Celtics won't have the cap room for Val, and they probably don't want his contract which has 3 years on it and the last being a player option. His trade value isn't very high right now either, maybe a season or two ago but not now. Celtics just signed Aron Baynes minutes ago, helps with some depth at least, only a one year deal too.

09 Jul 2017 16:52:47
Boston trades: Jae Crowder

Toronto trade: Jakob Poeltl

*Might not be straight up like this to work and be fair to one side, but add a low value draft pick or other players in and I think you'll have two teams that can really help each other fill needs for this coming season.

09 Jul 2017 17:08:26
After the Bradley trade it looks like Crowder is off the market.

09 Jul 2017 17:13:59
They won't trade crowder which is why they traded Bradley.

09 Jul 2017 17:55:37
If Crowder is dealt now, it will be in a bigger deal to land a Marc Gasol type player and not a salary dump.

09 Jul 2017 18:38:54
Poetl is worth maybe a second-rounder.

09 Jul 2017 19:01:23
Celtics still could use a big man but I don't think Poetl at this stage of his career is their guy and don't think he is worth Crowder in the first place.

09 Jul 2017 19:53:04
Okay, then how about.

Boston trades: Crowder and Jackson

Toronto Trades: Poeltl and Powell

*Boston will get another guy who can play the 2, and get a cheap center who can play now and they can easily trade later due to him being on a rookie contract and still having some upside.

*Toronto needs some depth at point guard and Jackson has looked good, but isn't going to get time over Rozier. Crowder obviously fill an immediate need, but Toronto will still hold the leverage in a deal since Boston needs another big, though Boston could ask Philly for Okafor, not sure what they'd have to give up, but it might not be much.

09 Jul 2017 21:24:26
Celtics just signed Aron Baynes.

08 Jul 2017 03:51:04
Bos-Phi-Orl

Orlando get Jahlil Okafor

Philadelphie get Jae Crowder

Boston get Nikola Vucevic

08 Jul 2017 07:01:39
Orlando says NO.

08 Jul 2017 12:11:12
Philly would say definitely yes.
Boston would say maybe.
Orlando would say definitely no. Don't see Okafor having any value.

08 Jul 2017 13:21:59
I like the move for Boston who still need a big man but I don't believe the salary will work with Vucevic making close to 12 and Crowder 8. I think Orlando would need a future pick from Philly added to Okafor in order to accept.

08 Jul 2017 14:49:40
Vucevic makes 12,250, Crowder makes 6,796 unless these guys have a trade kicker.

Boston is the only team that is at the cap. But IMO Boston needs to get Vucevic. Zizic is going to be a work in progress and Horford really wants to be at the 4 so getting a 7 footer that will block the lane and get boards is essential.

Boston sais they won't trade Crowder, but that was yesterday and when you look at the future they will need an aggressive 7 footer to clog the lane when LBJ is coming through.

They say that Marcus Morris was the best defender against James last year, but they still need someone there for other palyers. Zizic can't and won't play 30 minutes at the 5 so someone needs to be brought in. Losing KO will hurt the C's.

07 Jul 2017 22:50:35
Cleveland Cavaliers - Boston Celtics

Cleveland trades: Kevin Love

Boston trades: Jaylen Brown, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, Terry Rozier and draft rights to Guerschon Yabusele.

08 Jul 2017 01:46:35
And 5 minutes later Danny Ainge would be looking for a new job.

08 Jul 2017 01:48:48
Stop it.

08 Jul 2017 02:36:23
Not a chance!

08 Jul 2017 02:48:27
No way boston gives up all that for Love.

07 Jul 2017 16:33:46
DET - MEM - BOS - IND

DET get: Chandler Parsons, Al Jefferson, Marcus Smart, and 2019 1st DP LAC (via BOS) and 2019 1st DP MEM (via BOS)

pg. Smith/ Smart
sg. Bradley
sf. Parsons
pf. Harris
c. Jefferson/ Marjonovic

MEM get: Andre Drummond, Thad Young, Jae Crowder, and 2018 1st DP BKN (via BOS)

pg. Conley
sg. McLemore
sf. Crowder
pf. Young/ Green
c. Drummond

BOS get: Marc Gasol

pg. Thomas
sg. Hayward
sf. Brown/ Tatum
pf. Horford
c. Gasol

IND get: Reggie Jackson

pg. Jackson
sg. Oladipo
sf. Stephenson
pf. Leaf
c. Turner

07 Jul 2017 16:57:54
Boston needs to give up more money and I'm not sure why the Pacers are even involved unless they get a 1st back I doubt they want any part of Jackson.

07 Jul 2017 17:01:46
I still don't understand how people think Boston will get Gasol. He's entirely way too expensive unless they move one of their few larger contracts. They already need to shed around $3 mil in order to sign Hayward, which is where all this comes into play. In this trade, you have them moving Crowder, who's got $6.8 Mil and Smart who's making $4.5 mil, while taking on Gasol for %22.6 mil. That is not a possibility.

07 Jul 2017 17:30:16
Technically, they only needed about 300K to fit Hayward.

08 Jul 2017 04:34:17
celtics losing all there best defenders. that's what got them the number 1 seed. bradley already gone and now smart and crowder in this trade. no marc gasol isn't worth it.

06 Jul 2017 21:34:26
Boston - Jazz

With Boston trying to get Gobert too in the Hayward s&t

Boston : Hayward, Gobert, Diaw

Utah : Olynik, Smart, Tatum, Nets 2018, Lakers 2018

06 Jul 2017 23:33:28
They already have Hayward, and Diaw is just about cooked, so it's basically Smart and three top-5 lottery picks for Gobert. Not going to happen. Smart, the Lakers pick and another non-lottery No. 1, maybe. But not as constructed above.

07 Jul 2017 00:47:11
But they don't have Hayward unless they get rid of salary.

07 Jul 2017 00:52:29
Olynyk is heading to Miami.

07 Jul 2017 09:42:20
Can't legally do sign and trades like this it would have to be two separate trades. Even after getting Hayward Celtics could still use a big man and Gobert would be a great fit. However, I don't like how much they are giving up here since Hayward is essentially free (they could trade Smart to another team for a draft pick then just sign Hayward) so Tatum, Nets 2018 and Lakers/ Griz pick is too much for my taste.

07 Jul 2017 12:22:34
As a Celtics fan I would love to get the Hayward and Gobert, but considering he just signed a big money extension they would need to clear even more cap space. Plus there is no way they give up Taytum or the Nets pick. The Celtics have either completed their puzzle or are a piece away from doing so. They should keep their 2 (most likely) lottery picks and go after guys like Donich who is an amazing international SG who can replace Bradley and the other pick on Ayton who is a big talented center who would allow Horford to move back to PF.

A lineup of
IT
Donich
Hayward
Horford
Ayton

With Smart (resign) Rozier, Brown Taytum, Zizic and other off the bench seems scary to me, maybe even scary than this years team.

Plus this is assuming that Crowder gets sent to the Jazz for Hayward, but If they can do the trade without him and without giving up any of the players listed above then just add him to the bench next year and the team will be so much deeper and scarier.

What do you guys think?

06 Jul 2017 18:45:01
Pacers Celtics Jazz Nuggets

Pacers - Harris, Exum, Nuggets 2018 1st, Jazz 2019 1st
Celtics - Favors, Seraphin, Pacers and Nuggets future 2nd
Nuggets -Oladipo, Crowder
Jazz - Young, Chandler or Faried

Pacers-
Collison/Exum
Harris/Stephenson
Robinson III/Niang
Sabonis/Leaf
Turner/Ike A.

Celtics-
Thomas/Rozier
Bradley/Smart
Hayward/Tautum
Favors/Brown
Horford/Seraphin
...

Thoughts

06 Jul 2017 22:20:17
Crowder is not going to get Favors for one.

Celtics need to first get below the cap to sign Hayward then other deals can get done.

Celtics want a C with more than one year left on his contract.

06 Jul 2017 17:59:10
Raptors knicks

Raptors get Melo and noah

Knicks get JV Carroll and Joesph and future first round pick


Raptors would have a score starting sf with DeRozan and Lowry and Ibaka this would be a good fit for the raptors

Knicks get a young center and a buy out in Carrol for next season and a starting Pg of the future


Raptors make a push for the championship against James and the cavs and Boston

Lowry/Wright/vanvleet
DeRozan/Powell
Melo/OG/cabocalo
Ibaka/siakam
poetle/Noah/Bebe

Then the raptors bring in another shooter in heslip

06 Jul 2017 16:37:13
Celtics-Sixers-Hawks

Celtics get 2018 Hawks Second

Sixers get Crowder

Hawks get Okafor

Celtics get something in return (Probably Top 40 pick since Hawks are tanking) for Crowder to make room for Hayward instead of doing a sign and trade with Utah and getting nothing. Sixers get a starting SF, while only giving up a backup center. Hawks take a chance on Okafor while only giving up a 2nd.

06 Jul 2017 17:05:47
That's not enough for Crowder.

06 Jul 2017 17:16:55
Celtics should minimally be able to get a late 1st for Crowder. He is a starting caliber player at 2 maybe 3 positions on the right team that is on one of the best contracts in the league and just entering his prime at 27. He is the perfect complimentary player who can play defense on guys 1-4 and shot close to 40% on 3s while also being a good rebounder for a guy his size.

Even Okafor I think 76ers should be able to get a future 1st for, maybe not next years but I think he is worth more than a 2nd rounder.

06 Jul 2017 18:00:09
I agree that Crowder is worth more, but the Celtics have no leverage because they have to get rid of a player to sign Hayward. They are already talking about a sign and trade of Hayward for Crowder, so the Celtics would be getting nothing for him in that scenario.

06 Jul 2017 20:36:54
The Celtics have plenty of leverage. They are not way over the cap. Crowder is not going to Utah, Jazz are putting the trade out there. Ideally they would trade Smart to the Knicks for Willy and that will cover the Hayward signing. I think keeping AB and Crowder are key to competing this year. Look for IT to be dealt at the deadline and Rozier being the PG.

IT4 is talking his way out of town with this back the Brinks truck up and if I were 6'5" I'd be the best player in the NBA. FYI, no you wouldn't, you can't play D and you don't have enough dimes.

Ainge is thinking this out carefully because he wants to be in the finals this year. Gasol can clog up the paint but at a price. I think Vucivic can do the same at half the price so if Crowder is moved Orlando could be that team. Maybe they can do it with a late 1st and some young player they just drafted not named Tatum. He looks and plays like a stud. Drummond is still a viable option with 3 years of control and he'd be the guy I'd want if you have to spend 25 million. He's missed 2 games out of the last 3 years. And 9 years younger than Gasol.

06 Jul 2017 20:49:43
If it was just a straight sign and trade for Crowder it would be done already. DA is trying to figure out if he can get something else out of Utah. My guess is Hood right now with Utah balking at the prospect.

07 Jul 2017 00:25:31
The celtics need to find a way to move horford if they are going to move him or thomas. I feel like no one talks about that bad signing. he shouldn't be a max guy.

07 Jul 2017 03:57:33
Horford was taken out of his environment of playing the PF, his #'s reflect that. Get a real center and he'll be better. He's a good presence for the players and he is a good player.

Buttt. I think if the right situation came around for the right player Trader Danny wouldn't think twice.

06 Jul 2017 16:26:52
Boston Celtics Moves

-Trade Avery Bradley and a 2nd rd pick to LAL for Julius Randle

-Trade Marcus Smart to NYK for Kyle O'Quinn

-Waive Demetrius Jackson and Jordan Mickey

-Sign Tony Allen 1yr 3m
-Bring up Abdel Nadar
-Sign Beno Udrih 1yr minimum
-Sign Anthony Tolliver 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Thomas, Rozier, Udrih
SG: Hayward, Brown, Allen
SF: Crowder, Tatum, Nadar
PF: Randle, O'Quinn, Tolliver
C: Horford, Zizic, Theis.

06 Jul 2017 17:24:54
Not biggest fan of first move for either teams. For Lakers Bradley will likely demand over 20 mill per year in unrestricted FA so not sure Lakers would want to go for that considering they have dreams of getting better players. Randle will demand similar money but in restricted FA they have more control and can more easily involve him in a sign and trade since they have leverage to match any deal (can use bird rights to sign him even if they don't have cap space after other moves) .

For Celtics Randle would give them rebounding but would still be expensive for them to retain. I think they'd be better off dealing Bradley for a draft pick and then signing a veteran like Tony Allen or Sefolosha to replace some of his production in short term.

I think Celtics could do better than Smart for Oquinn, that would be a steal for the Knicks. Oquinn is a good fit in Boston but I think they could get more value.

06 Jul 2017 16:19:31
Pacers-Celtics

Thad Young for Smart or Rozier and Bradley or Crowder

06 Jul 2017 17:26:16
Celtics are trading one of those guys in order to clear the cap space needed to sign Hayward. Young makes close to 13 mill so he wouldn't be a good target as they wouldn't be able to actually sign Hayward if they got him.

06 Jul 2017 14:24:54
Celtics future:

Trade:

Smart and future 1st(maybe another pick as well) to the Jazz for Hayward

Have a lineup of

IT
Bradley
Hayward
Crowder
Horford

And have a bench of Brown Taytum Zizic Rozier Jackson(or they could waive him and bring in a veteran backup).

They still have they possibility of having 2 lottery picks and they should use them on the international SG(who will be in high demand) and Ayton.

They need to sign IT to a long term deal.

A lineup of

IT
Donich
Hayward
Horford
Gasol

With guys like Crowder Brown Taytum and Rozier and Zizic coming off the bench with others as well is scary good and is good enough to beat the Cavs and challenge the Warriors in my opinion

06 Jul 2017 16:32:46
Crowder will go to Jazz hands down.

06 Jul 2017 16:47:15
Unless Hayward wants to throw his old team a bone and demands Celtics do a sign and trade to get him this isn't realistic. Celtics could easily get something in return for Smart (a draft pick from another team) instead of giving up him and a 1st virtually for free. They should trade Bradley, Smart or Crowder depending largely on the returns they can get for them but ideally from a financial perspective you move Bradley since he'll be the most expensive to keep next year and is unrestricted FA, Smart would be next since although he is restricted he is still a FA and Crowder they'd ideally keep since he is signed cheaply for next few years but this also makes him attractive to other teams via trade.

06 Jul 2017 14:17:31
Utah-Bos

Utah trades: Hayward (s&t) Exum, 2020 1st round pick

Boston trades: Crowder, Rozier, 2019 Clippers pick.

06 Jul 2017 14:58:38
I'm not sure what motivation Utah would have to trade away a pick of exum in a s and t even if that was legal to do which it's not.

06 Jul 2017 16:56:31
I don't think Jazz would be allowed to give up anything more than Hayward in a sign and trade . For something like this to work Celtics would trade Crowder, Rozier and 2019 Clippers pick for Exum and 2020 first and then just sign Hayward outright. Although that isn't a terrible offer I think Celtics could find a better one elsewhere that would at least net them a big man that they could really use.

06 Jul 2017 00:34:26
Boston: K Love+ Drummond

Cle: Bradley+ Horford

Detroit: M Morris+ Frye+1rnd pick Clippers 19+ 1rnd pic Memphis 19+ 1rnd pick Boston 2018+ 1rnd pick Was 2018

Was: J Crowder

Boston:
C: Drummond/ zizic
PF: +K Love/ Ojeleye
SF: Hayward/ Isaac
Sg: Smart/ J Brown
PG: I Thomas/ Rozier

Cleveland receive a good replacement for KLove in Horford And Bradley is a good shooter and defender.

Detroit can rebuilt with 4 extra draft picks

Washington get a cheap replacement for Porter

06 Jul 2017 12:33:20
Complete steal for Boston. For the Cavs its alright, I rather have Love than Horford but Bradley would be a great fit as a 3 and D guard. Only thing is Bradley is in final year of his contract and will be a unrestricted FA that will demand a lot of money so he'll be expensive for Cavs to keep around (They should dump Shumpert and/ or Smith if they were to get him) .

Hate it for Detroit. Drummond isn't perfect but he is young, signed long term and one of best rebounders in the game. Although that's 4 1sts all of them with exception of maybe Memphis aren't going to even be in the lottery so not that much value there. Celtics would have to include at least the Lakers/ Kings pick if they were serious about adding Drummond (maybe even Nets pick) .

I think Washington is going to match Porters contract anyway but Crowder would be a solid and much cheaper replacement. Issue is they are giving up a starter in Morris so they are opening up another hole in the lineup.

06 Jul 2017 14:08:14
As a Pistons fan I'm fine with this trade. Although he's a great rebounder, Drummond sucks at everything else a big man is supposed to do and I question his work ethic. The upside is there but I'd much rather get 4 firsts out of him and rebuild. Pistons need to get out of this mediocre rut they've been stuck in.

06 Jul 2017 13:14:05
I could replace Morris by J Smith

Washington could match the Porter offer, but that's a huge contract for a non all star. And if they do sign him, Crowder would be a great sixth man (can play the two, three and four), on a reasonable contract.

I think Detroit could do this. Drummond is good, but they're playing for the eight spot. so they should trade him for draft picks, maybe the LA pick should be involved, but i'm not sure Ainge is prepared to give up that pick.

06 Jul 2017 14:58:23
That's all crazy. Boston couldn't afford both of those players. Plus, Drummond doesn't work in Brad Stevens system. He'd be uselesa, especially at his price tag.

06 Jul 2017 15:05:14
Not a terrible idea and the value isn't bad, but I don't see the Cavs facilitating a deal where Boston ends up with 2 allstars. It seems counter productive.

07 Jul 2017 14:52:19
@ Yumbo

Horford :28 M
Crawford: 9M
Bradley: 7M
Tot: 44M

K Love: 23M
Drummond :23M
Tot: 46 M.

07 Jul 2017 14:53:33
@rkenne_16

true, but this trade improves Cleveland too.
And maybe Cleveland need a stronger East.
So they are prepared to face Golden State.

 
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