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22 Feb 2019 20:13:19

MEM '21 1st

21 Feb 2019 12:42:06
If NY fails at Durant, does Irving still come?

Knicks get Irving
Celtics get Ntilikina DSJ Trier Thomas

Harris 4yr 110 mil
Jordan Milsap Ross 3yr 51 mil
Vet min Stephenson and Beverly


21 Feb 2019 13:55:15
Kyrie disagree agent. Why are Knicks trading for him?

21 Feb 2019 15:46:23
What use could Boston possibly have for four players on a Knicks team that wins two games a month?

21 Feb 2019 16:52:22
Knox and Mudiay instead of Nkilitina and Thomas would at least seem like you were serious.

21 Feb 2019 17:33:38
You don't think two good young guards are enough for a UFA? Side note, why would the Knicks give up young assets for someone they could just sign outright?

21 Feb 2019 19:16:55
Bmiller- one young guard and a bust.

21 Feb 2019 20:38:14
Eh, Trier is an ok rookie too. Still, I don't see why the Knicks would give up youth for Irving. Just sign him, then trade the other guys for other assets if you want.

21 Feb 2019 21:26:40
haha what makes you think beverly will take the minimum? the clippers already offered him a good extension and he turned it down. he will at least get MLE.

21 Feb 2019 22:12:56
Yeah, just go sign top tier free agents to a bottom 3 team. No problem.

21 Feb 2019 23:45:44
He has player opt. Knicks need cap flexibilty. Getting Frank and Dennis. Thomas ccontract not fully guarenteed. Trier is not guarenteed.
This assure Irving additional
35 mil yr.

22 Feb 2019 08:19:30
This is simple. Knicks brass has been hoarding youth and picks, this leadership group finally appreciates that both are important. To deal a bunch of them to pick up a UFA that has hinted previously that he may be interested in playing in NY makes no sense.

If the youth is being moved, it will be for a guy still under contract, ie. AD. Sure, Kyrie gets more money potentially in a S&T, but if that’s the only way he’ll come, either give up less than the above or move on to the next FA down the list.

22 Feb 2019 18:55:09
If Irving would agree to opt in and this trade happens it would help ny by alot. They would maximize their cap for 2 superstars and get a superstar. Plus have there first round pick.

18 Feb 2019 09:07:56
If Irving leaves


Celtics- Conley

Grizzlies- Hayward, own 1st 2019



Celtics- Jackson, 2nd rd pick

Suns- Rozier

sign Derrick Rose


18 Feb 2019 10:43:30
That Memphis pick could become unprotected in 2020, so i would keep that if i were Boston. Big chance it tuns into a top 5 pick.

18 Feb 2019 11:12:28
I mean Celtics own pick not Memphis.

18 Feb 2019 13:43:56
I would do all of those if I was Boston, especially since they have no shot at Davis long-term if Irving walks. The Rozier one is sticky because he's a RFA on July 1.

18 Feb 2019 15:32:17
Not sure the Suns do that deal if they can draft Ja Morant.

Plus, does Rozier want to go to Phoenix when he could be the starter in Boston once Irving leaves?

18 Feb 2019 19:15:27
If that trade happens and Kyrie leaves, the Boston/ Brooklyn trade from years ago looks like a total win for Brooklyn.

19 Feb 2019 15:29:18
How does the Brooklyn trade look like a win for them at all? The Celtics still have Brown and Tatum, which were because of the Brooklyn trade. Not to mention the winning basketball the team has been able to put forth since they didn't need to tank in order to get good draft picks. That alone is worth the one year of playoffs the Nets got out of the deal.

18 Feb 2019 09:04:11
If Durant said he's leaving for Celtics, will the Warriors agree to a sign and trade?

Celtics- Durant

Warriors- Tatum & Hayward

Just curious.

18 Feb 2019 10:46:04
I would try Horford and Tatum

I think the goldenstate run is over if, KD leaves, so they could accept that deal.

18 Feb 2019 15:34:02
I think if KD leaves, GSW are going to push to resign Cousins.

18 Feb 2019 22:43:49
The Celtics won’t have any cap space and there’s no way that KD will accept the MLE and give up almost $30 million per year on his next contract. GSW calls his bluff and says no deal.

18 Feb 2019 22:46:01
He won't leave Warriors for Celtics. He leave winning team with equal market, for a less winning team. If he goes. It's new york biggest market on a loosing team t o win to improve his legacy.

18 Feb 2019 23:18:21
He can’t leave for C’s, they don’t have the space. Would have to request S&T. Don’t see him wanting Boston as his destination.

18 Feb 2019 08:54:43

Celtics- Davis, Hill

Pelicans- Tatum, Horford, Smart, Yabusele, Grizzlies & Kings 1st round picks

18 Feb 2019 19:44:45
Pelicans counter with

Pelicans trade Davis, Hill and Moore

Boston trades Horford, Tatum, Williams, Ojeleye, Kings 1st, Memphis 1st, Boston 1st.

18 Feb 2019 21:08:25
I agree @Fredman.

17 Feb 2019 19:15:36
Got to have plan B, If knicks fail to land Williamson (Cleveland), Durant Resign and Irving Cousins sign (Lakers) Leonard (Clippers). Thompson Walker Vucevic resign. Butler and Harris resign

After Knicks draft Morant 2nd, trade DSJ to Celtics for 18th, Ntilikina 51 to Hawks for 35 43 46. Knox for Langford

Add 6 very good vets
Green Ariza Milsap Jordan Gay Young
2 yr 28 mil.


18 Feb 2019 09:01:07
I would keep Knox over Langford.

18 Feb 2019 19:14:39
Your free agency predictions seem accurate to me except Kyrie. He would look like such an idiot going to LA. He cried his way out of Cleveland because he wanted to be the man, and gave up another trip to finals with Cleveland. 2 years later he is going to run back to LeBron, no way. He's not going to NY with Durant either like rumors are saying. He would be Durant's side kick there. He will stay in Boston and AD will join him. He will be AD's side kick, but since he was there 1st he can say AD came to play beside him.

18 Feb 2019 23:01:46
Nick go celtics 🤣.

16 Feb 2019 18:42:30
How the Clippers Get AD (Godfather Offer)

Flip Lou Williams to IND, CHA, or MIN for a future first

Flip Montrezl Harrell to MIN, SAC, DEN for a future first

Trade SGA/Robinson/Shamet/6 First Round Picks (Rights to their '19 First, '20 First from PHI, '21 First from MIA, '22 First from LAC, Future First from Lou Williams trade, Future First from Harrell trade) for AD

How does this compare with the NYK and BOS packages?

This gives the Pelicans the equivalent of 9 first round picks plus close to $20 million in immediate savings due to the difference in salaries.

If the Clippers can dump Gallinari's contract either with Lou Williams, through a possible Kawhi (S&T) with the Raptors or to another team, the Clippers try to pair AD with Kawhi and KD along with Zubac's small cap hold. They fill the rest of the roster with the room exception (point guard), second round picks and ring chasers.

16 Feb 2019 23:31:03
Its ambitious to say the least. I actually like this for Pels because it creates a Trust the Process But also it puts AD in LA but not with the Tamperers.

17 Feb 2019 01:59:52
Think you can only trade 4 first per trade.

17 Feb 2019 04:57:52
If Harrell gets a first in trade other GM should be fired.

17 Feb 2019 13:49:07
I think New Orleans is looking for 3 things to trade AD.

1. "Proven" young talent.
2. Draft picks
3. Salary cap relief (most likely salary dumping Hill's contract) .

The Clippers young talent is not proven and the Clips would lose their max salary slot in order to provide significant salary cap relief to New Orleans.

17 Feb 2019 16:01:21
Expiring S. Hill in a trade involving AD? Wouldn't that mean less return for the rebuilding pelicans? I don't think S. Hill $ will be required to make the salaries work unless Wall is the trade target.

17 Feb 2019 18:31:13
However, getting someone to take Hill's deal for free would open up $30 mil in cap space this off season to take on a bad deal for a pick. Unloading Hill speeds up the rebuild process.

18 Feb 2019 12:07:11
I like the offer. NO already has big men for the future in Randle and Okafor. Getting SGA and Shamet who had a great year would be big. Having set 4 positions for 7/ 8 years is great. It depends on the celtics if they offer Tatum, Brown, Smart and picks. That would be the only better offer. Picks of the Celtics aren't better than the picks of the Clippers.

18 Feb 2019 15:20:36
S. Hill for free? Is that a standing 8 count.

18 Feb 2019 19:13:10
How is Hill's deal in an AD trade going to be free for the Pels? I am not clear on what you are saying. Hill is expiring, and he can be traded to acquire a bad contract along with other players. Doesn't need to be included to drag an AD trade down. I think this is a standing 8 count for you fredman.

18 Feb 2019 21:10:50
The picks would have been useless if they hadnt canned Dell Demmps. He wouldve burned them up in bad trades.

15 Feb 2019 03:50:47

Celtics- Davis, Hill, Moore

Pelicans- Tatum, Horford, Smart, Ojeleye, Grizzlies pick, Clippers pick, 2 2nd rd picks

Horford only one year, he can be the leader. They get pieces to still compete while building for future



Celtics sign Evans, Dedmon

resign Irving now and Rozier


15 Feb 2019 02:00:19
Boston trades J brown , Gershwin Yab and A Baynes + 3 first round picks
Washington trades Beal

15 Feb 2019 03:41:31
Either horford or irving would have to opt up in order for Boston to have the cap space for this.

15 Feb 2019 05:51:59
WAS won't trade Beal until summer 2020 @ the earliest. Wall's injury changed things. They could tank next season beal could rack up the stat sheet and WAS could add a lottery pick. Could also use the John Wall injury exception to get another pick, or remain competitive spend it on a free agent.

14 Feb 2019 07:27:09
If Celtics are willing do Irving for Ntilikina and DSJ, they get good value in return and save 25 mil from resigning another max contract. They develop 2 PG behind Rozier. They can keep the remaining core with them. Remember Celtics are playing better without Irving.

That save ny 11 more mil to resign Jordan. NY pays 21 mil towards next yr vs 32mil on a max contract. Also saves NY 7 mil for loosing 2 players who won't ever be starters ahead of Irving.

Best trade for All parties

Pelicans get Ingram Thompson Henson
2019 and 2021 LA
2021 and 2023 DAL
2020 and 2022 NY
Lakers get Knight Moore Love Davis
Cavs get Knox Hart Trier
Knicks get Ball Dellavedova cavs 2019 1st

Cavs dump 73 mil in salary, avoid luxury taxes and get a 2 solid 20yr old future star at SG and SF.

Roster with 60 mil cap flexibilty

Pelicans 😍
Henson and Thompson can share the Davis responsibility for 1 yr as 2 others develop to replace Davis. Ingram 6 1st for Davis almost like Hershall Walker trade.


Lakers keep Kuzma get 2 all stars and 2 shooters on perimeter around Lebron.


Trade Ball Dellavedova to magic for Augustin 10th 35th 43rd


14 Feb 2019 13:07:44
Lol. Ball and Dellavedova get the 10th pick in the draft. Yea, not happening.

Fultz got a FUTURE LATE 1st rounder. Ball is not going to get much more than that. Especially after the Fultz rrade.

14 Feb 2019 16:24:29
Horrible for NOLA Henson sucks and so does Thompson. The picks for LA would almost be very late firsts.

14 Feb 2019 16:50:13
Lakers 2019 lottery. 1 yr thompson Henson until bol and Jaxson take over. Fultz has not shown us anything that he belongs in nba, so arguement about comparison to ball is horrible. Ball and Fultz potential backcourt is interesting future. Name a better pg guard after 10 pick when Garland and Morant are already gone. Both of you loose on your arguement. 6 freakin 1st for any player including jordan is freakin awesome. dacman fredman 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 18:21:04
Much rather have Tatum Rozier and Brown with 3 picks.

14 Feb 2019 19:58:58
Cant include Brown in sign and trade when other people are involved unless the trade happen in January. Davis won't stay and listen to his father, omg dacman. Irving is not staying. Keep who wants to staying boston. Boston will still be good. Just never great. 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 21:00:55
This is Brown’s 3rd year in the league. He has a team option that will get picked up if it already hasn’t.

14 Feb 2019 00:56:58
Boston, plan B


NY: Irving

Indy: G Hayward+ Ntilikina

Boston: (Evans+ Bogdanovic+ C Joseph)+ 2rnd pick NY 2020

boston: Vucevic
Orlando: Horford+ 1rnd pick Clippers

3)Boston- Minnesota
Boston: Saric
Minny:Yabusele+1rnd pick Boston 2019+ 2rnd pick NY 2020+ 2rnd pick Atlanta 2019

Sac pick: Darius Garland
sign: Bogdanovic
resign: T Rozier

C: Vucevic/R williams
PF: Saric/Theis/ Oyeleye
SF: Tatum/ Bogdanovic
SG:J Brown/M Smart/RJ Hunter
PG: T Rozier/ Garland/Wanamaker

14 Feb 2019 01:59:35
The first trade can’t happen.

14 Feb 2019 02:43:43
Why wouldn’t the Knicks just sign him straight up and keep the pick and frank?

14 Feb 2019 05:49:50
The Magic trade is impossible. The deadline has passed and Vucevic is an UFA in the off-season.

13 Feb 2019 23:38:44
Pelicans Celtics Trade:

Pelicans get: Tatum, Smart, Baynes, Clippers pick, Grizzlies pick, Celtics 2023 pick

Celtics get: Anthony Davis

This is the trade I feel is most likely, NOLA doesn't make them take Solomon Hill Contract. Also I think getting AD gets Kyrie to sign a one year max deal

14 Feb 2019 01:44:34
I think that is pretty close. Others on here may not think so. Lol
I think the Sacramento pick should be in the deal, replacing one of the other picks.

14 Feb 2019 07:31:41
Baynes would have to opt in, and he has a no trade clause this season not positive about his opt in deal next year. Joe B is right - those picks aren't good, a better 1 or 2 would need to be in the deal.

14 Feb 2019 13:16:26
Above average chance that none of these picks convey to NO (via Boston) in 2019. NO will want current picks.

14 Feb 2019 16:26:47
Baynes out Brown in.

13 Feb 2019 19:28:47
Knicks need to be creative to resign Jordan while adding 2 super max

Knox to Grizz for Reddish


Knox and Jackson great forward combo eventually will play PF and center

DSJ to Heat for Langford


Garland might go sooner, heat need a PG, this is fair value.

Ntilikina Trier to Hawks for Paschall-35 Washington-43 M.Howard-46


Hawks could win 40 games next yr with solid depth.

This clear 12 mil to resign DeAndre Jordan 2yr 28mil and Irving and Durant sign 2yr 70 mil (33mil-2019 & 37mil-2020 player opt) before signing rookies contracts


Lotto Draft
Wizards- Little Wall to Pacers for Holiday 23

13 Feb 2019 20:34:02
Why would Memphis do that?

This is just so bad overall.

13 Feb 2019 23:38:00
That draft has so many players going too early.

14 Feb 2019 01:44:53

Maybe Detriot or Pelicans Culver or Johnson instead of Reddish. Knicks need a 3D sg better than Dotson.

14 Feb 2019 01:57:24
So memphis drafts a younger better shooter and trades the wing they needed for years for Knox? Lol.

14 Feb 2019 06:31:01
Fernando, Okpala, Hachimura and Alexander Walker will not be top 10 picks.

14 Feb 2019 07:52:44
Knox is 19 going to be 20 next yr shelfish.

13 Feb 2019 16:50:05
Celtics Offseason Moves

Re-sign Terry Rozier
Re-sign Kyrie Irving
Re-sign Marcus Morris
Re-sign Brad Wanamaker
Draft Tre Jones
Sign Tyreke Evans

Trade Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown, and 2019 1st via Grizzlies to Grizzlies for Jaren Jackson Jr and Avery Bradley

Then trade for Anthony Davis and E'twaun Moore for Jayson Tatum, Terry Rozier, Al Horford, Guerschon Yabusele 2019 via Clippers and 2019 via Kings

Opening Game roster
Jackson Jr./Theis

13 Feb 2019 17:27:33
Is this a my dream analogy throwing all rules and guidelines out of the window proposal? Red is now blue or something?

13 Feb 2019 19:36:27
Common man, jackson is not going to be traded. Grizzlies will be stuck with the 2 most overpaid whiteboys. Why would pelicans want 33 yr old (next yr) horford in rebuilding yr. For 30 mil per yr. Kyrie is gone. Celtics are better with him. But if you continue to post like this, danny Ainge might need to look over his shoulder😉.

13 Feb 2019 19:38:02
U can't trade players who resign until january.

13 Feb 2019 21:56:09
Sign and trade you can, but then that player can only be traded by himself.

Grizz are not dealing JJJ.

14 Feb 2019 00:20:20
Horford is included for salary purposes shizzee. He's a massive expiring contract and a great role player. They could easily flip him for assets.

Why would they want Rondo and McGee? They don't, it's salary cap filler.

That said, yeah, Rozier can't be included until Dec 15th if he resigns (he can't be at all if he signs a offer sheet that is matched) . Rozier being involved in any AD trade at this point is nearly impossible.

14 Feb 2019 01:58:42
Celts needto let kyrie walk.

11 Feb 2019 14:14:51
On draft day

Boston: A Davis+McDermott

NO: Tatum+J brown+Sac+1rnd pick Memphis 2020+ 1rnd pick clippers 2020

Indy: G Hayward+ 1rnd pick Boston 2019+ 2rnd pick Atlanta 2020

Trade: Yabusele, wanamaker and Ojeleye for T Parker
Horford Opt out and sign a new 60M 4year deal
resign Irving to a max contract
sign Bullock with the mid lvl exeption
Sign: D Carroll to vet min
Let Rozier Walk

C:Baynes/R Williams/Horford
PF: A Davis/ A Horford/Theis
Sf:McDermott/Bullock/D Carroll
SG: Smart/Bullock/RJ Hunter
PG: Irving/T Parker/Dozier

11 Feb 2019 14:30:35
Davis will leave.

11 Feb 2019 14:40:10
Honestly, I don’t know how that roster looks like a Championship contender to me. When guys like Smart or McDermott are starters, that doesn’t scream NBA Finals.

As much as Boston (and NY, and LA, and. ) want Davis, if you look at the roster you have leftover after the deal, is it worth giving up all those assets for him? Love AD’s skills, but dude has won exactly one playoff series.

11 Feb 2019 14:52:32
I am trying to figure out how Indy is taking on $25 mil in salary on draft day when they are already over the salary cap.

So let's push this back to after July 1st, the. why is Indy taking on A salary dump when they have their oen FAs to resign? The draft picks aren't all that.

11 Feb 2019 14:56:54
@ Trangle

I agree, it's a high price. But, LA, clippers and NY are all going to bid high.

So Boston has a choice, let Irving walk en rebuilt around Tatum and J Brown, while they pay horford and Hayward or trade the young assets and Hayward for another deep run.

A Davis-Irving is a good fundament for a great team. (Malone-stocton made it to the finals twice)
And that's a descent bench. Horford would be a great sixth man and bullock is a good 3 and D guy.

Smart and McDermott doesn't scream finals, but those two are good roll players. smart does all the dirty work and McDermott is a good shooter.

11 Feb 2019 17:16:21
Indy wouldn't be in this deal.

11 Feb 2019 17:23:52
I think trading Brown, Tatum, and Hayward would be a huge mistake. They go from one of the deepest wing rotations in the NBA, to maybe one of the worst. They need to keep one of those three.

11 Feb 2019 19:25:30
Gasupo- malone and Stockton were iron men. Kyrie and AD are both missing 10 plus games a year.

11 Feb 2019 22:27:02
I think clippers Lakers and Knicks all better chance to resign him. Because after trade they have big markets and cap space to sign players. Or lakers because if lbj. With Irving and Davis its not enough. It's a lil upgrade over davis and holiday. With James and Davis they have right cap to sign right players. Or with cippers and Knicks would have enough for two slots. If clippers can dump gallinari which they can. I put bulls and bucks better option think davis will leave celtics unless they can trade Heyward.

12 Feb 2019 17:07:43
Stopped really thinking when I saw the pacers taking Hayward’s horrific contract for basically two seconds. Cool. Sounds reasonable.

12 Feb 2019 21:21:40
Even though its a bit risky and awkward, i am glad Pels did not trade AD to Lakers. I doubt they will in July also. Pels need to see what they have in Okafor, Williams and a couple others and see what the draft positions are.

08 Feb 2019 22:13:25
Robin Lopez would propably join Mavs after buyout in Chicago.

Since the Mavs have their two francise players I do not see a "big fish" go to Dallas and there is NY, LA, Boston with heagy assets looking for ...

So the Mavs will use their CAP and the amazing Tradeexception to trade for PG and C end of june to get the bird rights and to resign them.

At PG Mavs will go for Walker, Rubio or I would like a offer for Chris Dunn. He can still not run the show in Chicago but would be a great sidekick to Doncie SG, he can play, score and defend!

- Burke, 2x2nd
- Dunn

The Center will probably be Vucevic or Orland want to keep him in this case Bamba, but I think they will go with the young guy.

- 2nd
- Vucevic

Maybe there is a possibility to go for Middleton? If not go with Hardaway, Finney-Smith

Vucevic, Powell
Prozingis, Kleber
Finney-Smith, Hardaway
Doncic, Lee
Dunn, Brunson

Maybe Detroit wants to send out Drummond for a future 1st? I like the kid and the power of presence in the middle, would be a younger case than Vucevic, but I think Vucevic fits better as a shooter that can still heavy rebound.

09 Feb 2019 00:17:53
Lopez will go to Raps or GSW. Same for Jordan. He won't want to be in NY, unless they are promising to pay him well next season.

09 Feb 2019 02:06:39
DJ seems pretty happy in NY jorga, don’t think he wants out. Knicks also like having him around as a mentor for Robinson, and he’s been more than willing to do it.

09 Feb 2019 04:03:03
Having two franchise players on rookie contracts should abtract free agents to join them. Dallas need a wing like Leonard and a center like cousins. Doncic lee Leonard zinger cousins with hardway 6th man.

09 Feb 2019 04:21:22
Porzingis will not be on his rookie deal.

09 Feb 2019 04:55:43
He accepted his qualifier for next yr.

09 Feb 2019 13:06:02
No he hasn’t shizzee, he said he is considering it.

09 Feb 2019 18:38:20
Unicorn fame getting his head smh.

09 Feb 2019 23:58:50
Triangle, I heard NY liked the mentor idea, but I haven't heard from D. J. 28 days until waiving is off the table, and I don't count a lot of contenders with starting roles available. It's the long period in between where the rubber hits the road. Injury could change things quickly on a contender.

10 Feb 2019 05:56:02
A 12 mil cap hold and a second year rookie with superstar potential making 7 mil is what you could build your team around easily.

10 Feb 2019 14:14:45
Also, just read that you cannot trade for players with expiring deals like vucevic between the trade deadline and the start of the new season/ free agency.

07 Feb 2019 22:24:37
The T Harris trade has a great impact. Does this mean Boston loses the poleposition in having the best assets for AD?

The Clippers can fall in the lottery, so they keep their pick

Sacramento can get the eight seat, so Bonston could lose a lottery pick.

And they already lose the 2019 Memphis pick (2020 or 2021)

Who could make the best offer for him?

Boston: Sacramento pick+ 2020 Clippers and Memphis pick+ Tatum+ Hayward

LA: Ingram+ Ball+ Kuzma+ 1rnd pick

Clippers: 1rnd pick+ 1rnd pick Philly 2020+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+SGA+ Robinson

Chicago: Markannen+ Ayton+ 1rnd pick

NY: Knox+ 1rnd pick NY+ 1rnd pick Dallas 2021 and 2023

07 Feb 2019 23:07:47
Markannen and Ayton eh? I’ll take that forsure man.

07 Feb 2019 23:22:37
Chicago doesn’t have Ayton

Imo if Knicks land No.1 it’s them. They have a ton of young assets. (Zion) Know Trier Smith Robinson plus 2 Dallas 1st.

08 Feb 2019 00:07:04
Knicks offer dsj know and 3 picks unprotected he is gone.

08 Feb 2019 00:39:26
They would never take Hayward or Horford.

08 Feb 2019 00:42:33
Ayton is Phoenix, you mean carter.

Knicks have williamson DSJ tilikina Mudiay Trier Dotson Trier Robinson and 4 1st,

Nobody comes close.

08 Feb 2019 01:05:44
What was reported today. in Boston was,
3 1st rd picks
In a deal for AD.

08 Feb 2019 05:50:01
Horford is 32, next yr 33, 30 mil in final yr. why would they take him. don't even bother mentioning Hayward

Brown Rozier can't be included bc they are not under contract. can't do sign and trade with multiple players.

Smart Tatum Yubusele Williams Ojeleye 3 1st

Knicks offer every player 23 yrs and younger

Williamson/ Barrett Knox DSJ Ntilikina Robinson Trier Dotson 4 1st.

08 Feb 2019 10:10:43
Shizzee. Boston has the best player in any trade scenario in Tatum. Knicks couldn't offer anything better, even Williamson. He he or may not be better than Tatum. We don't know.
Second, Brown doesn't come up for a contract this year. Only Rozier.
I know you're trying to rebuild your Knicks all on your own, but it's not happening.

08 Feb 2019 10:18:58
Brown is under contract next year.
Pels don't need Horford or Hayward and the Clippers pick is really bad (if they sign a star) or will get two 2nd rounders.

Celtics offer musst look like:
- Tatum
- Smart
- Brown
- Picks

Would be perfect as the Pels seem to trust in Randle and Okafor in the future. So getting them players in positions of need will get evaluated better.

If Knicks get a top 3 Pick and add Knox and DSJ or Ntilikina that might be better than my offer.

08 Feb 2019 12:00:29
If Knicks win lottery they will have best assets not even close coming from a Laker fan. Knox Williamson dotson 4 picks dsj and Robinson plus a few other okay pieces.
I don't think the pelicans are waiting Boston I think there waiting to see how the draft falls.

08 Feb 2019 12:41:15
Ranking them in order

1) Boston. Hayward out Brown Rozier in take Hill or Moore

2) Knicks If they get 1 pick, add DSJ

3) Clips with some adds

4) Chi and LA not even close.

08 Feb 2019 12:43:45
Boston may have to give up tatum for ad to secure Irving to resign. Like Irving may not resign if Boston don't get ad.

08 Feb 2019 20:59:07
Celtics fans🤦🏻‍♂️.

08 Feb 2019 23:14:36
Boston should went after zinger. Isiah Thomas smh. Listen to AD father. Irving and Davis will let you know July. Even if they choose la instead ny.

09 Feb 2019 04:31:20
Clippers are interesting especially if they can get New Orleans to take Gallinari (he would be on an expiring deal) back in an Anthony Davis deal.

Dont count out the Jerry West factor as well.

07 Feb 2019 18:22:22
Clippers get smith fry and chriss and cavs get gallinari and a future first. Clippers will be highly prepared for 2019 free agency.

With bucks getting better and if they put out Toronto or 76ers or Boston put out Toronto Leonard switch to either la team. I say clippers if someone join him or lakers because better chance to win ring with the king.

05 Feb 2019 09:43:48
Let's say before the deadline Lebron tells Magic if they don't get Davis he wants to be traded ...
Lebron and Irving seem to be all buddy buddy now so why not trade James to the Celtics

Tatum , Williams ,Hayward , 2019 Celtics 1st , 2019 Kings 1st

05 Feb 2019 10:08:00
Hahsha. funniest thing I've heard. First, James won't. He made such an ordeal about going to LA for his family and business opportunities.
2nd, no way the Celtics give up so many assets for the 35 year old King.

05 Feb 2019 13:34:18
Bron is not leaving LA, period. His move there was for more than basketball, and that should be evident by watching him give up one of his few remaining prime years with this roster while preaching patience.

05 Feb 2019 13:43:18
You only say that bc he would never go. joe, Celtics are 1 yr away from loosing irving and not getting Davis all bc the Celtics live in the past . So desperate to get the next white hope, overpay hayward has ruin their cap.

05 Feb 2019 14:59:23
Shizzee, I'm sure your team has a few bad contracts. Everyone does. Secondly, July is only 5 months from now. And not only won'tbe LOSING Irving, Davis will bea Celtic.
New Orleans wants Tatum and they will get him.
Once Irving knows that Davis 8s coming to Boston, he will be resigning. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

05 Feb 2019 16:50:32
I don’t understand how Hayward was such a horrible contract at the time? He was an all star. It’s not like the payed a fringe starter max money.

Also, a Knicks fan talking about living in the past?!? The Celtics were in the conference finals last year. They’re living on current and future success. The Knicks haven’t been good in.25 years? They’re somehow the “Mecca of basketball” still when they haven’t had a championship in 46 years. How are they signing any relevant free agents with 0 talent and one of the worst owners in pro sports?

05 Feb 2019 17:10:14
Typical New York fan. His team cannot do wrong. The problem is, the Knicks can't do anything right.
The Knicks haven't done anything right since the early 70's. Unless you want to count the Bernard King era.
As far as Hayward, if he had signed with the Knicks, it would be a totally different story with them.

05 Feb 2019 18:02:39
Knicks - 10-42.

05 Feb 2019 18:43:22
Knicks have an upcoming opportunity. The problem is that the Knicks recently have made poor choices when provided oppournities. There is nothing to suggest that trend will change.

05 Feb 2019 18:57:03
Celtics were in ecf last year. But Lakers and knocks think AD is going there. Who lives in the past?

05 Feb 2019 19:34:47
Fredman, the KP trade probably signals that they’re going to make another bad decision. Rose looks worthy of a Knicks max right now and Wall is on the trade block. A big 3 of Cousins, Rose and Wall is probably coming to MSG in a few months.

05 Feb 2019 20:33:13
Rkenne lmao we ny wants kevin love.

05 Feb 2019 20:43:36
Bottomline is this as you said it knicks haven't won in 47 years. Here is the Double standard. If they win in ny, there legacy would make them legendary more so than winning on team like the celtics and Lakers who franchise already are already winners. Davis durant irving are all about there legacy. Lebron had other attention beside winning. To win in ny despite having the most hated sports owner, is ultimate fu to Dolan. These can guys will be treated like magic bird pierce.

05 Feb 2019 20:32:18
Listen to AD father, AD picked the 4 location he would resign not 1clocation was boston and he would not go accept trade without irving, Listen to Irving, Irving is 1 and done, only a championship will keep him there, Celtics have not shown they are championship team this yr. Hayward signing, knicks been there with Allen Houston 5yr 100mil. You overpaid Hayward and Horford to go there. Irving did not choose Boston. Listen to Mark Stein.

Pelicans waiting on Who wins lotto. Bulls Cavs knicks or Suns. Williamson to bulls or knicks can make a difference to land Davis. Its doesn't matter how horrible the Knicks have been. Knicks gm and Durant have a connection 10 yrs. Irving is like Marbury and Melo always choose knicks over any team if there was slight chance of winning in ny. 2nd opt lebron and Lakers. 10-42 that is right, tanking. Like what you did get brown and tatum. Only tanking doesn't matter this yr like before. as long as you finish bottom 4 you equal chance.

05 Feb 2019 21:48:46
So refresh me memory. Name the last "Quality" Free Agent signing done by NY and how long ago was that signing.

06 Feb 2019 12:32:36
First, Ainge doesn't care about what AD's father says. He probably thinks he can change his mind once he gets to Boston.
Who cares who wins the lotto. None of the teams have what it will take to land Davis.

Second, Irving is in his 2nd season in Boston. Even if they don't win a title this year, he will sign the extension if he knows that AD is coming. and he us.
Which will leave the Knicks in the basement, where they belong
Btw. the Celtics got Brown, Rozier and Tatum via the Garnet and Pierce fleecing of the Nets. Not by tanking. Wow. you don't even know that? Lmao.

04 Feb 2019 11:44:28
Celtics trade Kyrie Irving, Jaylen Brown, and four 2019 first round picks (Kings, Grizzlies, Clippers, and their own)

Celtics get Anthony Davis

Knicks trade Enes Kanter, Kevin Knox, and a top 5 protected 2019 first (unprotected in 2020)

Knicks get Kyrie Irving

Pelicans trade Anthony Davis

Pelicans get Enes Kanter, Jaylen Brown, Kevin Knox, Knicks first rounder, and 4 first rounders from Boston

The Celtics can only acquire AD this season by moving Kyrie. This would be a big gamble for Boston, but the Celtics would be guaranteed at least one postseason run with AD. If a potential finals appearance and a bright future isn't enough to get AD to commit, they can trade him for a king's ransom this summer and replenish their assets.

The Knicks traded KP for hope, but now they have something to sell KD on other than just hope. With Kyrie on board the Knicks still would have a max contract slot and would become much more attractive to suitors. The Knicks can also go over the salary cap to re-sign Irving, something they wouldn't be able to do without trading for him.

The Pelicans get a big expiring contract, two promising young talents, and a whopping five first round picks for their superstar. The Pelicans would likely move some of those picks for future firsts, thus making the long term benefits of this deal even greater. I don't see a better offer out there for the Pellies.

04 Feb 2019 14:06:39
Davis is better than Kyrie, but he is not 4 first rounders and a young talent better than Kyrie. Less picks frim Boston, more picks from NY (AKA add those Dallas picks) .

04 Feb 2019 14:43:22
@Fredman fair enough huckleberry.

04 Feb 2019 15:00:55
Unprotected the picks for nola.

04 Feb 2019 15:20:26
Delusional C's fans know if Celtics don't make conference final they will not keep Irving or get Davis.

Tatum and Brown are over rated.

04 Feb 2019 15:24:04
You heard Davis's father, nobody wants to play for puke green.

04 Feb 2019 16:20:17
Knicks fans are adorable in their complete jealousy of Boston.

04 Feb 2019 19:11:00
Your best player is leaving a top 4 team east for the worst team in the nba. That's adorable. Hayward is the next Larry bird. Let's pay 35 mil a season 🤣.

04 Feb 2019 19:19:53
Pretty sure you should realize how stupid that sounds and understand it won’t happen. (Also, not a Boston fan, so not “my” anything)

04 Feb 2019 21:27:55
Side note: You know who's opinion wouldn't matter to me if I'm an NBA exec? Any star player's dad.

Is Anthony Davis' dad right? No. Does his opinion on that matter mean anything? Also no.

04 Feb 2019 21:53:43
NYK -- 10-42.

04 Feb 2019 22:27:16
Knicks fans may want to be quiet until the offseason because if they whiff at signing star FAs this off season, they will become the worse team in the league. by far!

Worse than even those Process 76ers.

04 Feb 2019 22:53:37
I came to his post because its a Pels trade proposal, but i stayed for the Celtics-Knicks fight. lol.

04 Feb 2019 23:47:22
Agreed Fredman. Like they have whiffed every year for what? 20 years? (oh wait! They got a broken Stat and an old Tyson Chandler! )

Holy crap, Amare Stoudemire is still only 36. That's crazy. Seems like he should be in his mid 40's.

04 Feb 2019 23:06:51
I was censored for less than shizzee, and notdrainers little rants on here! Unreal the hypocrisy!

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