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15 Feb 2018 15:47:38
Celtics offseason moves

Let go of Marcus Smart
Trade: Anthony Davis for Al Horford Clippers 2019, Terry Rozier and Shane Larkin
Extend Kyrie Irving
Sign either Nikola Mirotic or Julius Randle
Get Avery Bradley back.
Sign Elfrid Payton
If the Lakers pick falls pick either Ayton or Bamba

Lineup
Kyrie Irving/Elfrid Payton
Jayson Tatum/Avery Bradley
Gordon Hayward/Daniel Theis
Nikola Mirotic/Greg Monroe
Anthony Davis/Ayton or Bamba

15 Feb 2018 16:04:09
Unless they hit on the lottery, there is no way they get that Lakers pick. There are just to many awful teams and the Lakers have more reason to try and play well (convince free agents there is talent) than go full youth movement.

That trade isn't any where near Davis. On Paper that's less than the Cavs got for Irving and Davis is a better player and on a longer contract. Plus, NOs has no reason to move him. Horford has little value to NOs if they trade Davis. That Sacramento pick would have to be added at the very least and that's only if you can find a 3rd team to give up serious assets for Horford. I think a package would have to include Tatum/ Brown, Sac pick and a third team for Horford bringing some young assets/ expirings to NOs plus maybe another pick.

15 Feb 2018 17:05:01
Sun's have Payton's Bird rights doubt they let him walk.

15 Feb 2018 17:28:48
With what money are the Celtics able to sign Bradley, Payton and either Randle or Mirotic?

We are already over the cap now and we are trading our highest paid player and only saving about 7 million that you will probably be giving to Kyrie in his extension. Plus that trade for AD is horrible as rkenne_16 stated. Makes us Celtics fans look bad.

15 Feb 2018 19:23:30
Probably the funniest thing the Pels has ever heard. The next sound would be the receiver click ending the call. Pretty lame proposal.

15 Feb 2018 19:39:49
This must be a joke?
Or an eleven year old boy. :-)

15 Feb 2018 21:11:00
Hey how about this?

Pels are 31-26 Buicks are 32-24 Sixers are 30-25 Virtually a dead heat record wise, although Pels are in tougher West, which means they are outperforming the other two. But when it comes to lame trade proposals. We see next to none for Simmons and even less for Giannis but you guys bomb the site with lame AD trade ideas

Try distributing the wealth.

15 Feb 2018 21:13:39
Celtics don't need Davis they can trade horford for a younger player or picks and keep building a team with young stars they have two young and good players. if anything they should bring in a vet at center and maybe sign Bradley back for about 10 mil and trade off a few players to make that happen.

Irving and Tatum. Hayward and brown are there future. bring in vets to surround them. and Celtics win like warriors with speed and athleticism.

16 Feb 2018 22:01:02
“Celtics don’t need Davis” is one of the crazier statements ever on this site.

11 Feb 2018 19:08:14
Where I'd like to see some of the top possible free agents sign

•Tony Allen: Cavs or Thunder
•Vince Carter: Celtics or Raptors
•Derrick Rose: Wizards, Nuggets, or Warriors
•Nerlens Noel: Cavs or Spurs
•Josh McRoberts: Thunder or Spurs
•Ersan Ilyasova: Raptors or Thunder
•Shabazz Muhammad: Pelicans or Wizards
•G. Papagiannis: Thunder or Spurs.

12 Feb 2018 02:54:31
I’d like to see carter or Ilyasova go to the pistons. They need a shooter like Ersan.

13 Feb 2018 17:24:25
that's funny I was going to say the raptors for both raptora waive a player to bring in both.

08 Feb 2018 02:38:52
4 team trade

Kings get - Favors(exp), Johnson(waive) and Hood

Celtics get - Evans

Jazz get - Hill and Green

Grizzlies get - Smart and Labissiere

Fox
Bogdanovic/Hield
Hood
Favors
WCS

Irving
Brown/Evans
Tatum
Morris
Horford/Monroe

Hill/Rubio
Mitchell
Ingles
Green
Gobert

Smart(Conley)
McClemore
Brooks
Davis
Gasol/Labissiere

06 Feb 2018 00:46:10
Boston and LAC

Boston - Lou Williams

LAC - Marcus Smart


remember Doc is in LAC

06 Feb 2018 03:20:48
id swap smart for lou or t. evans.
bos doesn't seem intent on keeping him so swapping him for a rental makes enough sense. either guy gives u an offensive upgrade but i'd prefer evans, offers more D of the 2 that you lose with smart. and smart is more valuable than a late first if the recipient exercised his restricted rights.

06 Feb 2018 03:25:31
No from Clips, Williams is worth more than Smart right now. Add in a 2nd and that may entice the Clips to do it.

06 Feb 2018 03:58:56
A deal would include more pieces.

Celtics would take Tyreke before Lou, Lou is a scorer but lacks being a defender. Rozier as a starter was incredible and now they know where the scoring as well as the defender is. Delayed signing of Monroe is to keep open that last roster spot for a trade.

Depending on how Monroe works out it could lead to a contract next season if it's a friendly short term deal.

06 Feb 2018 04:48:08
Lou is leaps and bounds ahead on the scoring side of the ball than the entire Celtics team besides Irving. He can play system defense just fine. Not like the NBA plays man to man anymore. He is what they need. Can't keep next season. Probably.

07 Feb 2018 15:31:55
I'd rather keep Smart in the fold. His defense will prove very valuable in the postseason, and he does have a knack for making a huge play in the clutch. Worst case scenario, he's playing D on the opponent's best player while the rest of the lineup is built for scoring. I'd rather use picks and end of the bench contracts to go get Tyreke. He's not going to be in Memphis next season, so they'll be more motivated to move him than the Clippers are to move Williams.

Also, I'm not sure what Doc being in LA has to do with trading Smart there. He was in LA when Smart was drafted.

05 Feb 2018 23:31:46
3 team trade

Celtics get Gordon
Suns get Biyombo and Bos 2018 1st
Magic get - Chandler and Smart

Celtics sign Monta Ellis
Suns draft Michael Porter Jr
Magic draft Luka Doncic

Irving
Brown
Tatum
Gordon
Horford

FA
Booker
Jackson
Porter Jr
Chriss

Payton
Doncic
Ross
Isaac
Vucevic

06 Feb 2018 01:16:55
Boston isn't getting Gordon fro a late first, and smart who they have no intentions of resigning.

06 Feb 2018 02:01:08
This is very good stuff. finally!

06 Feb 2018 03:27:53
magic need more, either pick from boston or young player from phx.

06 Feb 2018 03:31:47
Biyombo and Chandler cancel each other out, and there is no way the Magic give up Gordon for Smart.

06 Feb 2018 04:18:17
^^ Chandler's deal is 1 year shorter pause Marcus Smart is under contract for next year too and wouldn't have to give him a max to keep if they decide too.

06 Feb 2018 05:10:28
I don't see Orlando wanting smart, since him and Payton are pretty much the same type of player. Phoenix could offer Chris's, and Toronto or Miami's pick for gordon.

07 Feb 2018 15:37:36
That's an interesting target for Boston, and it would certainly make for a crazy athletic group from the 2-4. I do think Orlando needs a bit more in this situation, so that Clippers pick could come into play.

05 Feb 2018 22:40:53
Thunder-Bulls


Thunder get Tony Allen and Cam Payne


Bulls get Josh Huestis, Kyle Singler, and Boston 2018 2nd.

06 Feb 2018 23:50:26
OKC would give up too much here for little return.

05 Feb 2018 16:20:50
Bulls - Thunder

Bulls gets:
Singler
2018 2nd rd pick Celtics (via Thunder)
2019 2nd rd pick Thunder

Thunder gets:
Allen
Grant

05 Feb 2018 18:33:18
Thunder are in the tax. They have to just sign Allen if they can. Maybe a trade, but not picks.

05 Feb 2018 20:48:06
Yeah they are in the tax buy the are getting rid of over a million in contract in this deal. The 2 seconds are to compinsate for Grant. The bulls can just waive singler for mor cap space.

05 Feb 2018 09:35:53
Indiana-Boston

Indiana acquire: M.Smart
- get a hard-nosed defender to pair with L.Stephenson or could start for them with Dipo at some point

Boston acquire: B.Bogdanovic & 1st round pick
- get a shooter off the bench and a 1st that they want for Smart

06 Feb 2018 02:14:45
Pick only, not worth a player and a pick.

04 Feb 2018 23:17:40
Celtics: Tyreke Evans

Grizzlies: Jamal Crawford, 2018 OKC 1st, and 2018 Celtics 1st.

Timberwolves: Marcus Smart, and 2019 Piston's 2nd.

Basically the T-Wolves need a guard who's better defensively than Crawford off the bench and Smart is actually outscoring Crawford making his expendable to the Wolves. They give up OKC's first which they acquired from Utah for Rubio and get and a 2nd back from the Celtics because I do't believe Smart is worth a 1st.

The Grizzlies get probably the best package they can for Tyreke, getting two firsts and a cheap contract they can trade either this year or next.

Celtics get the scoring 6th man they've needed and with this move almost ensure that they make the finals over the Cavs.

05 Feb 2018 00:16:57
c’s could prob get tyreke for just that 1st, why would they give up smart too for the same return.

04 Feb 2018 22:07:38
Thunder-Kings


Thunder get Garrett Temple
-Sign Andrew Bogut and a backup guard


Kings get Alex Abrines, Kyle Singler, and Boston 2018 2nd.

05 Feb 2018 02:43:58
Solid trade.

03 Feb 2018 09:23:58
Boston trade G YaB -J Bird and their first round pick 2018
Clippers- Lou Williams

03 Feb 2018 15:13:56
This years 1st makes the most sense. I'm not sure about Lou being made available. If all of ATL is available, T. Prince would fit in nicely in BOS.

03 Feb 2018 01:21:53
Gurschon Yabuselle and the Celtics own 2019 First Rounder

in exchange for

Tyreke Evans from the Grizzlies

Celtics add much needed bench scoring.
Grizzlies get a pick to help prepare for the next phase of their future.

03 Feb 2018 09:25:20
I’d prefer Lou will.

03 Feb 2018 15:17:29
Why would BOS not deal the 2018? Its looking to be a bottom 4 pick.

02 Feb 2018 19:29:30
Celtics sign Monroe for 5 million and save 3,4 million of their disabled player exeption. For me that means that they are going after Tyreke Evans with the rest of the exeption, otherwise they would have given Monroe the full 8,4 million.

Celtics - Grizzlies

Celtics gets:
Evans
2018 2nd rd pick (Suns)

Grizzlies gets:
2019 1st rd pick back

02 Feb 2018 20:15:55
Sounds do-able. The pick being Future is what I'd figured BOS offered. I think MEM is holding out until the last minute for a 2018 just in case another Boogie, happens.

02 Feb 2018 20:42:47
you can't split up a dpe between multiple players. they would have to use mid level for tyreke.

02 Feb 2018 22:05:56
Correct, you can only use the DPE once, whether you use it for $86 or $8.6M. Evans is going to have to come through a trade for salary.

03 Feb 2018 03:48:07
They will trade for evans not DPE.

02 Feb 2018 18:07:06
Greg Monroe to Celtics.
Done deal.

02 Feb 2018 18:44:11
They had the most cheddar falling from the sky to offer.

05 Feb 2018 13:41:55
That, and their playoff picture looks much nicer than New Orleans. He could be a big scoring punch off the bench to try to earn himself a contract.

02 Feb 2018 03:56:00
Grizzlies - Celtics

BOS In: Evans

02 Feb 2018 04:04:10
Griz are getting something.

02 Feb 2018 13:51:57
I guess a TPE, but at a minimum salary value, that's not enough for them to move Evans.

01 Feb 2018 21:57:28
GSW get Galloway, 2nd via det from Boston trade.

Hornets get Jackson, Johnson, Ellenson, det 1st 17', trade exception

Detroit gets Kemba, Batum, N. Young
GSW 1st 17'

01 Feb 2018 23:18:46
DET traded their 2018 1st to LAC.

01 Feb 2018 23:24:18
Don't think there is any need for Golden State to be involved in this deal.

02 Feb 2018 04:53:28
I had Galloway going to GSW because I thought he fits very well with how they play. He isn’t a playmaker but he defend pg position very well and is a streaky shooter. With Drey and Durant his ballhandling and distributing could hidden. Seems like a good trade for the champs.

02 Feb 2018 04:55:17
Jorgawood- it’s there 2017 first and it’s a swap for the GSW first. Pretty sure as long as we get a first it’s legal in the trade bilaws.

02 Feb 2018 16:20:40
Goatface 2017 draft happened already. Philly took Fultz, LA took Ball. Remember? It's 2018 now, can't trade picks from last year's draft unless you are trading those players.

01 Feb 2018 21:22:18
Boston: Markkanen

Bulls: Morris+ 1rnd pick LA+ 1rnd pick Vancouver2019+ 1rnd pick Boston 2020

01 Feb 2018 22:25:23
Bulls dealt Mirotic to keep Maarkanen. This is as likely as K. Leonard being dealt.

02 Feb 2018 00:14:27
So Kawhi and Markannen have the same value?

01 Feb 2018 21:17:26
OKC - Magic - Nets

OKC gets
Simmons (Magic)
Harris (Nets)
Signs Bogut or Monroe

Magic gets
Abrines
Huestis
2018 2nd round pick from OKC via Boston

Nets gets
Singler
2018 2nd round pick from OKC

Sheds 4 million salary cap for the future, OKC gets better depth and capable starters for Roberson injury.

01 Feb 2018 22:26:48
I don't think a late 2nd is enough lure for the Magic to deal Simmons.

31 Jan 2018 21:31:40
BOS: Evans

MEM: Smart

31 Jan 2018 21:40:46
Boston should not trade any rotation player unless for an all star.

01 Feb 2018 00:30:47
Nba, in what world does a rotation player get you an all star?

01 Feb 2018 04:31:00
Celtics would probably rather do Nader and their own 2019 first rounder.

01 Feb 2018 05:37:58
Obviously they'd include rotation players and picks, not just a straight up rotation player for all star.

01 Feb 2018 05:39:50
I'm sure the Celtics would! CLE in my opinion have the late 1st, and the fodder to land him. But they don't need him. Even though he is an improvement over Smith, and Rose. Says a lot about CLE future plans. MEM will just keep him probably if they don't get asking price. Same for CHI, and Mirotic.

31 Jan 2018 18:30:39
I saw a rumor, K Leonard wasn't happy in SA.
What would be a good trade for a rebuilt?


SA-LA
LA: Gay+ Leonard
SA: Ingram+ Ball+ Deng+ 1rnd pick LA

SA-Wolves
SA:Wiggins+ Dieng
Wolves: P Gasol+ K Leonard

SA-Boston
SA: Tatum+ J Brown+ Morris+ 1rnd pick LA
Bost: K Leonard

SA-Cle
SA:Zizic+ Osman+ J Crowder+ Frye+ 1rnd pick Nets+ 1rnd pick Cle 2021
Cle: K Leonard

SA-Phoe
SA: T Chandler+ Jackson+ bender+ 1rnd pick Phoe+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick bucks
SA: Leonard

SA-Por
SA:D Lillard
Por: K Leonard+R Gay

31 Jan 2018 18:57:27
None of the above!

31 Jan 2018 19:15:42
It's Leonward, not LeBron. Looks like you want Boston to trade half their team. They won't trade all that for AD, never mind Leonard.

31 Jan 2018 19:51:37
Yumbo: If you told me I could have AD or Leonard (ignoring current injuries and contracts) I would probably take Leonard. He’s a top 10 offensive player, and a top 3 defender. He’s worth more to winning than AD is. He’s one of the most valuable players in the NBA, and it would take a major haul to get him.

31 Jan 2018 20:37:48
So Phoenix has to give up potentially 5 first round picks if you count Jackson and bender plus there top 5 pick. Yet Cleveland only has to give up a mid to late lottery pick and a late first rounder? What am I missing?

31 Jan 2018 21:00:43
@skills
It's just a question.
I was looking to teams that would fit Leonard and that could make a package.

The Phoenix deal could be good, but the Bucks pick and Miami pick aren't going to be lottery picks. Bender is still a big question and Jackson a smaller one.

01 Feb 2018 00:33:01
That still doesn't explain why you have the Cavs giving up nothing.

01 Feb 2018 03:45:15
No way the sun's do this trade WAY to much for Lenny even if he is one of the top players in the league in witch he is.

 
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