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19 Feb 2019 17:54:37
If the Cavs don't get the 1st or 2nd pick which they would probably draft Zion or rj barett with those picks.They should try and trade Collin Sexton for picks and the draft ja Morant.

19 Feb 2019 18:41:11
There’s no reason to trade Sexton. He’s been getter better. I don’t want to see the Cavs taking a bunch of guards with their lottery picks, but if you think Morant is in a tier of his own take him and worry about fit later. Sexton has been playing off ball more, recently and been fairly good at it. He’s a solid spot up shooter and can score on drives, when the defense is out of place. The fit on the defensive end is something you can figure out later, if you need to.

19 Feb 2019 19:18:07
If cavs can trade Sexton for Jackson then draft morant. Or to sun's for there pick. If they get pick 5 and draft landford or the other Duke player.

19 Feb 2019 20:34:15
Draft best player available.

Tatum was at 3
Fox was at 5
Porzingis was at 5
Mitchell was at 12 (? )

Often one of the best players in the draft are after the top 2 are selected.

19 Feb 2019 20:53:24
Always take best player available. I was talking about that in another thread. Fit isn't a big deal. Take talent and fit it together. If those are two all star caliber guards, they'll work together.

19 Feb 2019 21:10:13
Fredman. Porzingis was the 4th pick and isn't even the best player from the 2015 draft. Thanks distinction goes to Karl-Anthony Towns.

19 Feb 2019 22:42:30
Great Carl. But clearly you can’t read.

Best player available.

KAT went 1st.

3 before Porzingis.

Thus Porzingis at that point was the best player available.

20 Feb 2019 01:28:57
Carl, please define "One of the best players".

20 Feb 2019 04:14:52
I take unicorn anyday over that pussyKAT.

20 Feb 2019 05:10:41
Carl burned. lol.

20 Feb 2019 17:55:56
You might be the only one Shizzee. How about today, when Porzingis is still hurt and Towns is averaging 25 and 12?

Or when Towns leads his team to the playoffs in a difficult west while Porzingis leads the Knicks to 31 wins in the east?

20 Feb 2019 18:09:25
Are you taking odds miller66? Wolves are dysfunctional until Wiggins is traded and injured a lot.

20 Feb 2019 21:28:41
He lead his team to the playoffs last year. Was talking about how they compared last year and the year before. At this point, doing anything is better than sitting with a torn up knee.

20 Feb 2019 22:08:04
Odds on Wolves in playoffs not porzingis.

17 Feb 2019 19:15:36
Got to have plan B, If knicks fail to land Williamson (Cleveland), Durant Resign and Irving Cousins sign (Lakers) Leonard (Clippers). Thompson Walker Vucevic resign. Butler and Harris resign

After Knicks draft Morant 2nd, trade DSJ to Celtics for 18th, Ntilikina 51 to Hawks for 35 43 46. Knox for Langford

Add 6 very good vets
Green Ariza Milsap Jordan Gay Young
2 yr 28 mil.

Morant-2/Allen/Howard-43
Green/Langford-10/Dotson
Ariza/Gay/Paschall-35
Milsap/Young/Washington-46
Jordan/Robinson/Fernando-18

18 Feb 2019 09:01:07
I would keep Knox over Langford.

18 Feb 2019 19:14:39
Your free agency predictions seem accurate to me except Kyrie. He would look like such an idiot going to LA. He cried his way out of Cleveland because he wanted to be the man, and gave up another trip to finals with Cleveland. 2 years later he is going to run back to LeBron, no way. He's not going to NY with Durant either like rumors are saying. He would be Durant's side kick there. He will stay in Boston and AD will join him. He will be AD's side kick, but since he was there 1st he can say AD came to play beside him.

18 Feb 2019 23:01:46
Nick go celtics 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 07:27:09
If Celtics are willing do Irving for Ntilikina and DSJ, they get good value in return and save 25 mil from resigning another max contract. They develop 2 PG behind Rozier. They can keep the remaining core with them. Remember Celtics are playing better without Irving.

That save ny 11 more mil to resign Jordan. NY pays 21 mil towards next yr vs 32mil on a max contract. Also saves NY 7 mil for loosing 2 players who won't ever be starters ahead of Irving.


Best trade for All parties

Pelicans get Ingram Thompson Henson
2019 and 2021 LA
2021 and 2023 DAL
2020 and 2022 NY
Lakers get Knight Moore Love Davis
Cavs get Knox Hart Trier
Knicks get Ball Dellavedova cavs 2019 1st

Cavs dump 73 mil in salary, avoid luxury taxes and get a 2 solid 20yr old future star at SG and SF.

Roster with 60 mil cap flexibilty
Sexton/Clarkson/Staukus
Hart/Trier/Nwaba
Knox/Osman/Adel
Nance/Chriss/Blossomgame
Cousins/E.Davis/Zizic

Pelicans 😍
Henson and Thompson can share the Davis responsibility for 1 yr as 2 others develop to replace Davis. Ingram 6 1st for Davis almost like Hershall Walker trade.

Ingram/Payton/Jackson
Holiday/Dort-39/Williams
S.Johnson/Miller/S.Hill
Randle/Henson/Hayes-9
Thompson/Okafor/Bol-13

Lakers keep Kuzma get 2 all stars and 2 shooters on perimeter around Lebron.

Knight/BHands-pickup
Moore/Stephenson/Vick-pickup
Lebron/Bullock/Norvall-pickup
Love/Kuzma/Wagner
Davis/McGee/Chandler

Trade Ball Dellavedova to magic for Augustin 10th 35th 43rd

Irving/Augustin/Allen
Barrett-3rd/Langford-10th/Dotson
Durant/Paschall-35/C.Johnson-51
Williamson-1st/Vonleh/Washington-43
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

14 Feb 2019 13:07:44
Lol. Ball and Dellavedova get the 10th pick in the draft. Yea, not happening.

Fultz got a FUTURE LATE 1st rounder. Ball is not going to get much more than that. Especially after the Fultz rrade.

14 Feb 2019 16:24:29
Horrible for NOLA Henson sucks and so does Thompson. The picks for LA would almost be very late firsts.

14 Feb 2019 16:50:13
Lakers 2019 lottery. 1 yr thompson Henson until bol and Jaxson take over. Fultz has not shown us anything that he belongs in nba, so arguement about comparison to ball is horrible. Ball and Fultz potential backcourt is interesting future. Name a better pg guard after 10 pick when Garland and Morant are already gone. Both of you loose on your arguement. 6 freakin 1st for any player including jordan is freakin awesome. dacman fredman 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 18:21:04
Much rather have Tatum Rozier and Brown with 3 picks.

14 Feb 2019 19:58:58
Cant include Brown in sign and trade when other people are involved unless the trade happen in January. Davis won't stay and listen to his father, omg dacman. Irving is not staying. Keep who wants to staying boston. Boston will still be good. Just never great. 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 21:00:55
This is Brown’s 3rd year in the league. He has a team option that will get picked up if it already hasn’t.

13 Feb 2019 19:28:47
Knicks need to be creative to resign Jordan while adding 2 super max

Knox to Grizz for Reddish

Conley/Wright/Carter
Holiday/Myles/Palmer-54
Knox/Brooks/Chandler
Jackson/Anderson/Rabb
Valanciunas/Noah/Wiley-35

Knox and Jackson great forward combo eventually will play PF and center

DSJ to Heat for Langford

Dragic/DSJ/Roach-Pickup
Richardson/Waiters/Vick-pickup
Winslow/JonesJr/Robinson
Johnson/Olynyk/Maten
Whiteside/Bam/D.Hernandez-pickup

Garland might go sooner, heat need a PG, this is fair value.


Ntilikina Trier to Hawks for Paschall-35 Washington-43 M.Howard-46

Young/Ntilikina/Garland-12
Bazemore/Huerter/Trier
Prince/Hachimura-5/Bembry
Collins/Vonleh/Spellman
Cousins/Len/Plumlee

Hawks could win 40 games next yr with solid depth.

This clear 12 mil to resign DeAndre Jordan 2yr 28mil and Irving and Durant sign 2yr 70 mil (33mil-2019 & 37mil-2020 player opt) before signing rookies contracts

Irving/Howard/Allen
Reddish/Langford/Dort-51
Durant/Paschall/Dotson
Williamson/Washington/Lawson-pickup
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

Lotto Draft
Knicks-Williamson
Suns-Morant
Cavs-Barrett
Bulls-Fernando
Hawks-Hachimura
Grizz-Reddish
Wizards- Little Wall to Pacers for Holiday 23
Magic-Okpala
Pelicans-Alexander-Walker
Detriot-Johnson
Hawks-Garland
Celtics-Culver
Pelicans-Bassey

13 Feb 2019 20:34:02
Why would Memphis do that?

This is just so bad overall.

13 Feb 2019 23:38:00
That draft has so many players going too early.

14 Feb 2019 01:44:53
Carl,

Maybe Detriot or Pelicans Culver or Johnson instead of Reddish. Knicks need a 3D sg better than Dotson.

14 Feb 2019 01:57:24
So memphis drafts a younger better shooter and trades the wing they needed for years for Knox? Lol.

14 Feb 2019 06:31:01
Fernando, Okpala, Hachimura and Alexander Walker will not be top 10 picks.

14 Feb 2019 07:52:44
Knox is 19 going to be 20 next yr shelfish.

11 Feb 2019 16:46:46
Most likely to happen? Even if some sounds stupid or delusional :) next season

Sample

1. Kings and Cousins reunion. Cousins signs a 4yrs max contract

Pg Fox
Sg Hield
Sf Barnes
Pf Bagley
Ce Cousins

this team can make noise

2. AD stays in NOLA after resigning or he became a Clipper along with Kawhi Leonard

3. Derrick Rose back in Chicago, stays healthy and leads them back to playoffs

4. Rockets made CP3 available and someone bites (who do you think?)

5. No one goes to Lakers. LeBron declines.

6. Durant goes to Lakers :)

7. Cleveland gets number one pick again

8. Suns sign Kemba & one more big time free agent

9. Spurs trade Derozan

10. Timberwolves becomes bottom dwellers again in the West

11. Mitchell & Doncic become all stars

12. Dwayne Wade comes back

13. Kobe becomes LAL coach

14. Lillard or McCollum trade

15. NYK playoffs

11 Feb 2019 18:40:17
1. I Don't see it happening


2. The Clippers seem to have the assets to pull off a trade, that wouldn't be shocking at all. No chance he resigns in NO.

3. I could see that happening.

4. I think Houston would do anything. They run things very unemotionally. Maybe Orlando makes a bid if they re-sign Vuc? Nos sure they have what Houston would want, but they're someone that would try.

5. Feels very likely.

6. 0% chance. He wouldn't join another team to be called a coward. It's a lowly team that needs him like the Knicks, or it's back to GS.

7. AGAIN! Yep, they jump the Knicks and get Zion.

8. I don't see it. Maybe a big offer sheet player, but not an established all star.

9. The Spurs could do anything. Trading Derozan is definitely on the table.

10. This already happened? They're the third worst team in the west right now.

11. If both of these guys don't make it to 4+ all star games, I'd be surprised.

12. Nah, not after the tour he's had.

13. He'd be a hoooooorible coach. Too much of a perfectionist and too much ego to coach.

14. McCollum: 33%, Lillard: 0%

15. 2025?

11 Feb 2019 19:36:40
5 is the most likely to happen. But I am looking at "no one" as being "no star player". I can see Tyreke Evans signing a short term one year deal.

11 Feb 2019 20:43:40
Right Fredman, I was assuming no one meant no star.

11 Feb 2019 22:58:55
Rise ain't st as ying healthy.

11 Feb 2019 23:26:48
2. AD stays in NOLA after resigning or he became a Clipper along with Kawhi Leonard I wish but no to staying even w extension. Clips only hyave shot if Ainge gets weak

3. Derrick Rose back in Chicago, stays healthy and leads them back to playoffs nope

4. Rockets made CP3 available and someone bites (who do you think? ) Possible

5. No one goes to Lakers. LeBron declines. I'd love to see it but unlikely

6. Durant goes to Lakers :) maybe

7. Cleveland gets number one pick again Nope 1 outta 3 shot

8. Suns sign Kemba and one more big time free agent El Paso says Kemba

9. Spurs trade Derozan Good shot

10. Timberwolves becomes bottom dwellers again in the West Or at least close

11. Mitchell and Doncic become all stars Over time yes

12. Dwayne Wade comes back Why ask?

13. Kobe becomes LAL coach Nahhh

14. Lillard or McCollum trade L= Nope M =YEPP

15. NYK playoffs Within 3 years.

09 Feb 2019 01:56:25
Cavs offseason

Jr smith to nets for Allen Crabbe And nuggets 1st

Jordan Clarkson to detriot for glen robinson,2020 1st top 16 protected and 2019 second

Kevin love,Tristan Thompson to Charlotte for pick 14,Bismarck Biyombo,Marvin Williams,2022 2nd,2020 2nd,2024 2nd,2019 2nd,Willy Hernangomez

09 Feb 2019 04:20:13
Maybe on trade #1

Definately no on trades #2 .

07 Feb 2019 18:22:22
Clippers get smith fry and chriss and cavs get gallinari and a future first. Clippers will be highly prepared for 2019 free agency.

With bucks getting better and if they put out Toronto or 76ers or Boston put out Toronto Leonard switch to either la team. I say clippers if someone join him or lakers because better chance to win ring with the king.

07 Feb 2019 16:12:24
Cleveland-Minnesota idea

Cleveland gets Andrew Wiggins, Minnesota's 2019 1st and 2021 1st

Minnesota gets JR Smith, Jordan Clarkson, and Houston's 2019 1st

Cleveland takes a chance on the player they originally drafted, while improving on their 2nd 2019 1st, add another future 1st, and trade away a guy who doesn't want to be there.

Minnesota saves a ton of cap space (Smith in only partially guaranteed for next year) while still getting a useful player in Clarkson and still having a 2019 1st.

07 Feb 2019 16:33:06
Minnesota's picks lottery protected?

07 Feb 2019 16:38:36
Pretty solid for the Cavs as long as both of those picks are protected in a way that they actually convey no matter what. I like it for Minnesota as well, if they’re looking to add some capspace and to get rid of Wiggins.

07 Feb 2019 18:20:15
Cavs already have 1 overpaid players who doesn't play defense. Wiggens has bigger contract that Love. Please don't ruin cavs franchise.

07 Feb 2019 19:53:19
Shizzee- subtract lebron years and that franchise is ruined.

06 Feb 2019 18:53:11
OKC gets Hood and Nwaba

The Cavs get Diallo, 10 million dollar trade exception, and a 2nd

The Cavs either bring in a 3rd team or after the trade look for a team that is trying to get under the luxury or is trying to clear cap before free agency.

06 Feb 2019 19:14:50
Hood is in Portland.

06 Feb 2019 21:02:13
Oregon Trailblazers?

06 Feb 2019 23:35:48
I meant Alec Burk. I looked though and he doesn’t fit into the exception.

07 Feb 2019 00:39:52
Rkenne slow down on the cush 🤣.

06 Feb 2019 15:56:05
Cavs Trade:
Love, Burks
Receive:
Bamba, Brandon Knight, KCP, Lance

Houston Trades:
Knight, 2019 1st
Gets:
Burks

Lakers trade:
Lonzo, KCP, Lance
Gets:
Love, Houston 2019 1st

Orlando trades:
Bamba
Gets:
Lonzo

06 Feb 2019 18:13:22
You will need a 1st to move Love. Lonzo for Bamba only 2 teams should be involved.

06 Feb 2019 19:15:57
Bamba for ball usnt happening.

06 Feb 2019 22:22:43
If it’s not a big man. Orlando doesn’t want him.

06 Feb 2019 22:37:04
They’d be getting a first for Burks from Houston. This sends it straight to LA in one deal.

06 Feb 2019 14:10:55
Philly gets Alec Burks

Cavs get Fultz and Zhaire Smith

Maybe add a couple 2nd round picks or something going to philly, but this goes a very long way for philly keeping their starting lineup together long term. Also helps their bench this season.

06 Feb 2019 14:39:08
Sounds like Philly is going to look at giving Fultz another chance, not sure they move him for Burks.

06 Feb 2019 15:09:00
Zhaire probably makes this too much, but it’s hard to say. Realistically Fultz for Burks straight is a knockout. Fultz is an asset for the cavs and a liability for philly, especially now that they need all the cap space they can get to keep that starting lineup together. Burks’ ability to help this year is just a bonus on top of the cap space philly gets.

06 Feb 2019 17:07:39
I agree with CCF123. Philly Fultz for Burks straight up is enough. No way Philly adds Smith.

06 Feb 2019 01:02:37
Cavs Philadelphia Milwaukee

Cavs receive
Chandler(buyout)
Muscala(Buyout)
Maker
Zhaire Smith

Philly receives
Snell
Jr Smith

Milwaukee receives
Clarkson
Nwaba

05 Feb 2019 07:03:39
Cavs Kings

Cavs trade: T.Thompson D.Nwaba

Kings trade: Z.Randolf K.Koufos

05 Feb 2019 01:54:37
Cavs recieve- Gourgie deing,2019 1st and 2022 2nd

Wolves recieve-jr smith

04 Feb 2019 11:38:59
Cavs get Anderson and hill plus suns 2021 first unprotected and Lakers 2019 unprotected.

Lakers get Davis

Pelicans get kuzma zubac Jackson plus suns 2019 top 5 protected and Lakers 2021 unprotected. Plus get bender Daniels pope Chandler fry crawford to waive and all expiring contracts.

Suns get love and ball plus players from hood trade.

Salaries match.

04 Feb 2019 15:29:56
I do see much difference between Anderson and love. Love needs to play and prove his value. Stop over valuing ball. Suns will draft Morant with 2nd pick and keep Jackson and 2021 suns 1st. You are kidding right 2 1st for Love.

04 Feb 2019 15:52:23
Players from hood trade cannot be traded within a group.

04 Feb 2019 17:26:31
There getting ball and trading on Anderson horrible contract. So they have ball Booker warren love and auto they should be set for play offs next 4 years. Love contract not bad it's a mystery. I don't think suns get pick Two. Cavs Knicks bulls suns get 4. Not over valuing ball. It's a need for the suns. They get ride of Jackson who they don't need with bridges and the dude from Washington who is balling out. Anderson and Jackson plus two picks for ball and love. Anderson is negative value and love was just one the main focal points on a championship team. Ball is better Jackson and ball is more a need then Jackson. With Booker they need a more proven players not more rookies. About time the rookies ready Booker will be ready to leave.

04 Feb 2019 17:28:45
There a big difference between love and Anderson. What has love accomplished over Anderson. Love is way ahead and still can be effective 20 and 12.

04 Feb 2019 19:01:20
Love is more effective than Anderson for about 40 games a deason. That is all that Love plays nowadays.

04 Feb 2019 23:51:39
Still 4 times better then Anderson even with the fans makes it even better for love. Great player just had problems with green guarding him.

04 Feb 2019 00:14:53
Cavs Trade Tristan Thompson

Spurs Trade Pau Gasol
2019 first round pick (Raptors)

Cavs receive Pau Gasol(buyout contract) 2019 first round pick (Raptors) from spurs

Spurs receive Tristan Thompson

Spurs are getting rebounds machine Center

Salary Match

04 Feb 2019 01:30:04
No one is trading a 1st for Thompson.

04 Feb 2019 01:37:48
TT has had a great season, but taking on $18M for next year and giving up a 1st may be a bit much. I could see a 2nd.

03 Feb 2019 21:10:54
The Cavs get Knight, Chriss, NeNe, Fultz Z.Smith, the Houston 2019, and Houston 21 lottery Protected

The 76ers get Gordon, Cavs and Rockets future 2nd

The Rockets get Love, Burks, and Nwaba.

04 Feb 2019 00:41:56
Loves isn't worth 2 firsts.

04 Feb 2019 20:23:08
They are very late first so he might be.

Two controllable guys in fultz and smith for Gordon I'm sure would be a no from the sixers.

03 Feb 2019 20:41:23
Cavs Philadelphia

Cavs receive
Chandler
2021 philly first round pick or 2019 second from Chicago and 2021 second from New York

Philadelphia receives
Burks

03 Feb 2019 21:11:58
Unless theCavs take on bad money in a Burks trade, they aren’t getting a 1st.

03 Feb 2019 20:02:45
Cavaliers Kings

Cavs trade: T.Thompson J.Clarkson D.Nwaba

Kings trade: W.Cauley-Stein S.Labissiere Y.Ferrel Z.Randolf

Fox Clarkson Mason
Heild Bogdanovic Mclemore
Shumpert Jackson Nwaba
Bjelica Bagley/Giles
Thompson Bagley/Koufos

03 Feb 2019 20:53:11
Why for kings?

03 Feb 2019 21:13:21
Shumpert has worked well for them. They my as well grab more Cavs cast offs.

03 Feb 2019 21:21:29
Kings stated a need for an upgrade at backup PG. Kings biggest weakness is rebounding.

03 Feb 2019 23:13:58
This trade requires the Kings to use their remaining $11 mil in cap space to complete. GM Divac has already told the media he is not using that cap space unless there is draft pick compensation or the perfect player is available (otto porter? ) .

04 Feb 2019 03:13:42
Wizards already stated they are not trading Porter Jr.

03 Feb 2019 16:22:26
If Cleveland losses in lottery

# 3 pick to Boston for #13,#18,#23

Boston draft ja morant to replace kyrie

Cavs draft Kevin porter jr,Daniel Gafford,lugentz Dort

03 Feb 2019 17:10:00
Cleveland loose lottery?, morant would be your best player. Smh. Might go #1.

03 Feb 2019 17:19:12
No way do you give up a top 3 pick for a handful of middle
Of the first picks.

03 Feb 2019 17:27:36
Rkeene those 3 with Sexton is better than Sexton and one guy.

03 Feb 2019 17:39:00
Morant is going to Phoenix.

03 Feb 2019 18:43:57
Not if the one guy you draft is an allstar caliber player and the 3 other guys are low end rotation players.

03 Feb 2019 20:56:55
Rkeene its Cavs. They thought Sexton was good. Think about the team.

 
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