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24 Apr 2018 23:11:13
---Cleveland Cavaliers offseason---

The assumption is that LeBron will resign for the supermax.

Trade #1: Cleveland - Denver

Cleveland trades: Jordan Clarkson

Denver trades: Will Barton (S&T)

Cleveland adds a player in Barton who fits better next to LeBron. An average salary of 10M per year might b reasonable for both sides.

Instead of losing Barton for nothing, they add a decent scorer with two years left on his deal on a reasonable salary.

Trade #2: Cleveland - Utah

Cleveland trades: J. R. Smith (exp) and Cedi Osman

Utah trades: Derrick Favors (S&T)

For Cleveland, they add a much needed big man who happens to bring rim protection and fits well next to Kevin Love.

For the Jazz, they swap Favors for a decent prospect in Osman instead of losing him for nothing and Smith, who is added for salary purposes. He's an expiring contract next season.

Cleveland Cavaliers roster:
PG: George Hill
SG: Will Barton
SF: LeBron James
PF: Kevin Love
C: Derrick Favors
+'18 first round pick via Brooklyn (currently 8th overall) .

Great length, has potential to be a solid defensive line-up.

25 Apr 2018 01:35:50
I'm not a fan of trading Cedi unless the Cavs end up with a high level starter or a veteran player that can replace what he does. Honestly, he should be playing the Jeff Green minutes in the current series. He doesn't have the experience Green does, but he does everything else he can plus he can hit open 3s. (I'll admit that I was high on Green for most of the season before general consensus struck)

24 Apr 2018 23:39:00
The Cavs get Porter, Mills, and Green

The Spurs get Gortat(exp), Morris, Oubre, Osman, Clarkson, the 18 Brooklyn 1st, and the Wizards 18 and 20 1sts

The Wizards get Leonard, Jr Smith, and Thompson.

25 Apr 2018 04:43:58
Cavs need to be giving up more. Clarkson, Osman, two bad contracts, and a low top 10 pick isn't worth that return. Also, the spurs could probably get a better offer for Leonard elsewhere. I do like the potential fit of Thompson with john wall though. I think wall could bring out the best in Thompson.

24 Apr 2018 21:36:40
The Cavs get Mcollum, Aminu and D Green

The Spurs get Hill, Clarkson, Osman, Swanigan, the 8th pick, Portland's 18 1st and Portland's 2020 1st top 10 protected

The TrailBlazers get Kawhi and Korver

24 Apr 2018 23:52:47
Why is Cleveland giving up the better.assets but not getting kawhi I know there is.cj McCollum and Al farouq but all those young players and the nets pick should be bringing in.kawhi not cj

25 Apr 2018 01:42:18
I'm a Cavs fan as well. Imo adding two high level defenders that can hit the 3 and McCollum (a guy who can create) would do more for them than adding Leonard and the added assets it would take. If they could add Leonard for the package above, they should do it, but I think it takes a little more and they probably don't get Green (maybe they get a guy like Mills or Gasol) . I don't think that Leonard alone makes them better than the Warriors or Houston. I'm it sure this does, but in my opinion, this gets them closer.

24 Apr 2018 06:53:19
Cavs trade tt 2021 1st to team with cap space

Cavs trade Kevin love, cedi osman, bkn pick for kawhi

Try to buy out Jr Smith

Sign Paul George and Noel

George hill
Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
LeBron james
Nerlens Noel

Nance clarckson korver off bench

24 Apr 2018 09:45:23
They will have to dump hill and smith. If buy out it still count against cap.

24 Apr 2018 12:10:19
They have no way of opening up cap space. They're like 40 million over the cap.

24 Apr 2018 02:59:03
Cavs get pick 29,Rhonde Hollis Jefferson,d Angelo Russell

Nets get pick 8

24 Apr 2018 08:47:39
too much for 8th pick.

24 Apr 2018 01:30:25
Blazers/Cavs Trade

Blazers Receive: 8th overall pick, Kyle Korver, Jordan Clarkson

The Blazer get an aging but undoubtedly elite and potential hall of famer on the roster. Although he is far from what he once was, Kyle Korver can still shoot the ball efficiently and get buckets off the bench. They also receive Jordan Clarkson who is a good shooter that can fit at the 1 or the 2. The big return they get is the 7th overall pick. I believe that in a stacked draft class the Blazers could pick up somebody help them immediately. They didn't have an answer for the Pelicans strength and defense in their early and unexpected first round exit. If they could possibly snag Jaren Jackson Jr. or Mikal Bridges at 8, not only will they get skill, but they will get lengthier and more versatile. CJ is an undersized shooting guard who would be better benefited from being surrounded by bigger guys. He wasn't really an ideal fit in Portland although he did end up thriving with Damian Lillard throughout the regular season. The Blazers could get a lot better in this trade and possibly even see themselves back in the 2019 playoffs if they draft wisely.

2018 Starting 5
1-Damian Lillard
2-Jordan Clarkson
3-Evan Turner
4-Jaren Jackson Jr.?
5-Jusuf Nurkic

Cavs Receive: CJ McCollum, Al Farouq Aminu

The Cavs need another scorer next to Lebron and some defense. In this trade, the Cavs receive Al Farouq-Aminu who is a defensive and athletic freak. He would be a good spark off the bench or in the starting lineup to provide rim protection, make plays and bring some energy and toughness to the floor. The Cavs also need some more scoring and more star power alongside Lebron. Let's be honest, Lebron and the Sixers isn't really a good fit with Ben Simmons manning the show. Going to the Lakers would be pointless because although they have the cap and assets to go out and acquire big name player, they are in a brutal Western Conference with a young and inexperience coach and roster. Finally there are the Rockets. Although the Rockets are arguably the best team in the West right now, I really don't see Lebron going out there and being happy. D'Antoni would have a lot of authority and he'd be sharing the ball with James Harden+Chris Paul. His best bet is to stay in Clevland, restock the team and continue to dominate the East. In the 2017-2018 playoffs, through the first 4 games Lebron has averaged about 33 points per game while not a single other Cavs player has scored above 20. He needs scoring. CJ McCollum will give him that.

2018 Starting 5
1-George Hill
2-CJ McCollum
3-Lebron James
4-Al-Farouq Aminu
5-Kevin Love

24 Apr 2018 03:40:04
Wait you seriously called Korver not only undoubtedly elite. But a potential hall of gamer? 4/ 20 is over. Lay off the weed.

24 Apr 2018 03:44:28
Cavs might need to give up some more, but I like the frame work behind it.

24 Apr 2018 14:38:26
Hamburger I don't know if you watch the NBA but he is one of the best 3 point shooters of all time. He's old now but used to be a beast for the Hawks. Yeah probably not a hall of famer I got carried away there. But he would be a good addition to the Hawks since they need a wing badly.

24 Apr 2018 15:36:27
The only Hall of Fame Korver is going to might be the Bad Haircut Hall of Fame. You definitely over-valuing him.

24 Apr 2018 22:41:42
I watch the nba. And realize he is awful at literally every other aspect of the game. You called a guy with no defense. No rebounding. No passing. Nothing but a three point shot undoubtedly elite and potential hall of famer. Perhaps you should watch the game pudding before throwing that junk out there.

23 Apr 2018 22:54:55
Hypothetical trade. Only plausible if Lebron leaves.

Heat trade: Hassan Whiteside, Tyler Johnson
Heat receive: George Hill, Tyson Chandler, Jonas Jerebko (waive) Ekpe Udoh (waive), 2018 own first (from Phoenix)

Jazz trade: Alec Burks, Thabo Sefelosha, Ekpe Udoh, Jonas Jerebko, Royce O'Neal, 2018 Jazz 1st
Jazz receive: Kevin Love, Kyle Korver

Cavs trade: Kevin Love, George Hill, Kyle Korver
Cavs receive: Brandon Knight, Alec Burks, Jared Dudley (buyout), Thabo Sefelosha (waive), Royce O'Neal (waive), 2018 1st via jazz, 2021 1st (MIA) via Phoenix

Suns trade: Tyson Chandler, Brandon Knight, Jared Dudley, 2018 1st (MIA), 2021 first (MIA)
Suns receive: Hassan Whiteside, Tyler Johnson

Why for the heat? Heat cut down luxury tax expense this year and the next. They open up a starting spot for Adebayo. George Hill and Tyson Chandler could be solid veterans for them this upcoming season and they only have $1 million guaranteed salary combined for the 2019-2020 season. They also get this years pick back.

Why for the jazz? Jazz bring in two great shooters. Love's shooting at the 4 provides a great compliment to gobert. Although the jazz take a hit defensively, they open up the lanes for Rubio and Mitchell to penetrate.

Why for the cavs? If lebron leaves, they need to cut salary and get picks. This deal saves them money immediately and they get 2 1st round picks.

Why for the suns? The suns rid themselves of their 3 biggest contracts who are all too old for their timeline. They get their starting center that could be a defensive anchor for them. They also replace knight with Tyler Johnson. Although Johnson is getting paid about $5 million more per year than knight, he at least actually plays and the suns can afford him. The suns have plenty of youth already and don't need the draft picks.

24 Apr 2018 03:55:06
The Jazz should probably give up a little more and the Cavs and Heat should probably get a little more.

24 Apr 2018 07:15:56
Suns are giving up 2 1st rounders to get rid of expiring contracts and for taking 40+ million in salary? Yeah right.

24 Apr 2018 11:35:06
Rkenne, the heat and cavs are both going to be paying huge luxury taxes next year if they don't make some sort of trade. Obviously, the player value isn't there for either team, but I think both franchises would make this trade considering that they aren't legitimate contenders. Also, there is a lot of value in the unguaranteed and expiring contracts the Jazz are giving away.

Tonchcorkins, Brandon knight has two years left on his deal and he is on one of the worst contracts in the league since he rarely plays and when he does he always plays bad. Also, I think you are overvaluing the Miami picks. How much is pick 18 really worth in this draft? Whiteside definitely has a higher floor than anyone you could get then. And i think a new team could rejuvenate him. The 2021 pick is probably more valuable because who knows where the heat will be in 3 years. But still, I'll take my chances with whiteside for the next 2 years.

24 Apr 2018 12:17:19
If Lebron walks, the Cavs are already out of the luxury and they give 3 guys that combined make 50 million dollars and are guaranteed less than 5 million after next season. You're using they're expirings to open up cap space for other teams.

24 Apr 2018 14:47:47
1088jonesp yur bashing knight, yet have Phoenix taking Johnson who makes 5 mill. More a season. Have you looked at the numbers for each player? Knight's worst years are better then Johnson's best years. Knight hasn't played because he was out for the season with an injury. So according to yur logic the suns trade all their expiring contracts along with 2 first rounders, plus trade knight for a more expensive yet less productive player. Please tell me how this makes any sense in yur head.

24 Apr 2018 19:05:56
Jdp85, Knight has missed nearly 50% of all games in the last 4 seasons. He is one of the most injury prone players in the league and he is severely overrated. He is a poor defender and a ball hog. His stats are inflated due to the fact that he has played on trash teams his entire career. I'd much rather have Tyler Johnson, a tough, gritty combo guard that won't dominate the ball and will knockdown open shots at a more efficient rate. Also, you completely ignored the fact the suns are getting hassan whiteside, one of the best defensive centers in the NBA.

23 Apr 2018 21:35:39
Options for Cavs if nets pick lands top 3 or if it's still 8

Nets pick lands top 3:Devin Booker since he said he's tired if losing, kawhi Leonard

If nets pick lands 8: Damian Lillard, cj McCollum, Aaron Gordon,

These are the ones I can think of for now, please reply if you come up with other players

23 Apr 2018 22:29:37
Booker is untouchable and I'm not sure that the 8th pick as a center of a trade is getting you Lilliard assuming that they even consider trading him. It's hard to imagine a restricted free agent being involved in a sign and trade. If they were going to trade Gordon, he would have been dealt at the deadline. He had more value then.

I think Leonard would be possible at either spot depending on what the Cavs are willing to package with the pick.

Maybe, Whiteside or Jordan with something more thrown in from their respective teams.

24 Apr 2018 00:41:10
Booker isn’t realistic. Lillard isn’t (especially for just the #8 pick)

24 Apr 2018 01:26:40
I don't think you get any of those 3 for a top 3, much less an 8.

24 Apr 2018 02:24:59
Who would they be moving besides the Nets pick?

23 Apr 2018 19:36:33
Bucks loose in 1st round and blow it up :0
Bucks send Middleton and Delly
Lakers send Zubac, Brandon Ingram , Luol Deng , 2018 Cavs 1st , 2020 Lakers 2nd
Seems fair for both

Bucks send Giannis
Philly sends Fultz , Saric , Covington, 2018 Lakers 1st , 2018 Philly 1st

Thoughts ?

23 Apr 2018 20:10:11
No way do they trade Giannis.

23 Apr 2018 20:27:10
Lakers are not giving up Ingram and a first for Middleton. While they rid themselves of Deng's deal, Delly's is not much better.

Giannis seems genuine about staying in Milwaukee, and the Bucks want him there. No deal from there end in the second deal.

23 Apr 2018 20:37:01
I agree the Bucks are "loose" in the first round. They are playing with confidence and not rattled by the moment

but if they did lose. Giannis is still untouchable.

23 Apr 2018 22:19:58
I think Giannis and AD are the most untouchable players in the game right now. Middleton is also huge in this Boston series. Even if they loose, MIL should first use their other assets for a third solid guy. Only one player like Leonard, Walker, Jordan, Drummond, Love could make them immediate contenders.

23 Apr 2018 16:42:13
The Wizards get Love, Hill, and Osman

The Cavs get Mahimi and Porter

23 Apr 2018 02:10:14
Draft day deal:

Cavs send: Hill, Pick 6, Thompson, Smith
Receive: Noah, Lee, THJ, Holiday, Pick 10

NY send: Noah, Lee, THJ, Pick 10
Receive: Hill, Thompson, Pick 8

Bulls send: Holiday, Pick 8
Receive: Smith (buyout), Pick 6

Cavs receive 3 quality shooters and above average defenders and have a lottery pick to add some youth.

NY gets rid of Noah, moves up in the draft, and cleans up their cap sheet.

Bulls move up 2 spots in the draft for the cost of a Smith buyout

23 Apr 2018 13:11:11
The knicks would need Houdini as the gm to pull of this magic. Good luck.

23 Apr 2018 15:17:16
The Cavs move back in the draft and take on Noah just to get an overpayed Tim Hardaway? I don't see the point behind this trade for them.

The Knicks do this in a heartbeat. They move up in the draft and can open up over 30 million next year. They also give up nothing of real value other than their pick.

Bulls get a great deal as well. They have to make the salary floor anyway and with a buyout Smith is basically an expiring.

23 Apr 2018 17:12:56
The fact that you don't even k ow who has which picks show how clueless you are. The cabs have the 8th pick. There's no way they get the 6th. It's either top 3 or 8.

22 Apr 2018 11:00:17
LA: D Lillard

Port: L Ball+ K Love

Cle: Deng+Harkless+ 24 pick+25pick+ 1rnd pick LA 2019+ 1rnd pick Portland 2019

LA signs LBJ Cousins and P George
Nike will compensate the discount they all take on their contracts.
Anthony signs with the mid level exception

LA:
C:Cousins/Zubac/Bryant
PF:LBJ/Kuzma
SF:P George/C anthony
SG:Ingram/hart
PG:Lillard/Ennis

Portland:
Ball is a good defender and a good distributor, so i think he's going to be a great combo with McCollum.
K Love can still be a 20-10 guy in Portland, that needs a second scorer.

Cleveland take two bad contracts for four picks, so they can draft prospects and start a rebuilt.

22 Apr 2018 14:24:12
You have a rather glaring omission -- namely, Anthony Davis and Kawhi Leonard demanding that they be traded to the Lakers for future second-round draft picks.

22 Apr 2018 15:36:59
nah, they should go to Boston :-p.

22 Apr 2018 16:34:13
didn't durant take 26 instead of 36. So cousins George and James can do the same just 25 each. But for this to work Lakers would have to include Ingram to cavs.
Lillard
George
James
Melo
Cousins
Most the contending teams pf are no threat on offense so Melo should be safe. Like raptors Boston Philly golden state and Houston. Just would have trouble guarding Davis so Melo and James can switch positions where James guards him.

22 Apr 2018 17:25:18
Why would they want Melo? At this point, he's a mediocre offensive player that gives you nothing else. They'd be much better off keeping Ingram and if they can't do that there are plenty of other wings you'd be better off going after.

22 Apr 2018 18:08:29
Melo would be a great sixth man.

23 Apr 2018 02:20:55
Why don't they just find a way to sign Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, and Kawhi to minimum contracts as well?

23 Apr 2018 19:23:51
Lakers lineup

P. G. Lillard

S. G George

S. F James

P. F AD

C Cousins

6th Melo

The Fantasy Island Lakers. Because it ain't never happening.

22 Apr 2018 09:30:02
Portland blows it up

Phoe: Lillard

Cle: McCollum

Phoe: T Thompson+ Smith+ B Knight+ Bender+J Jackson+Osman+ 1rnd pick Suns+ 1rnd pick Cle

Portland draft: Ayton and Young

C:Ayton
PF:Collins
SF:Jackson
SG:Osman
Pg:Young

22 Apr 2018 17:45:31
Did someone slip something into your cocoa this morning or what? You cannot be serious to think that PHX would give up what might be the #1 pick in the Draft plus Knight, Bender, AND Josh Jackson. for Lillard? Not even close to a chance of this happening! Also. the Suns are KEEPING that pick.

22 Apr 2018 18:09:43
D Lillard is a top three pointguard.

22 Apr 2018 21:05:50
He WAS a top 3 PG. One that hasn't taken PORT anywhere and that is still way too much to give up.

22 Apr 2018 21:40:53
Wait, are you saying Lillard was a top 3 PG a week ago, but isn't anymore? That’s an overreaction to 4 games.

AD also hasn’t taken his team anywhere.

That said, yeah, it’s probably a bit too much for Lillard. Taking out Bender closes the gap.

23 Apr 2018 02:10:06
AD is also injured a lot more than Lillard so far in their careers. Port has had more talent than NOLA until recently and IMO, Lillard might fall more into the overrated group than the top 3 best PG column after this latest failing. Besides that, who would play the PG for PORT after a deal like this? Young? Right. Yeah, no deal from all sides.

23 Apr 2018 02:21:42
Lillard is definitely not a top 3 PG.
Steph, Westbrook, CP3, Kyrie all easily ahead of him.

23 Apr 2018 03:39:53
Gasupo explain how you have lillard going to the Lakers for sent and a couple late first rounders. Yet Phoenix has to give up potentially the #1 overall pick, plus Jackson and bender? Are you and rkenne related?

23 Apr 2018 17:18:08
AD hasn't taken his team anywhere? Wow! That comment is about as preposterous as this trade idea.

22 Apr 2018 05:51:50
Cavs-Blazers


Cavs get Damian Lillard, Mo Harkless, Meyers Leonard, and #24 pick


Blazers get Kevin Love, George Hill, and #8 pick.

22 Apr 2018 07:54:36
Blazers say no.

22 Apr 2018 04:29:19
Cavs trade Kevin love,Cedi Osman,Brk pick,to New York for Joakim Noah

Cavs get the dpoy Joakim Noah get rid of a bad contract in Kevin love

22 Apr 2018 09:33:43
Maybe in 2014 :-) : -) :-)

22 Apr 2018 17:14:16
Cavs getting robbed.

21 Apr 2018 20:18:24
Cavs offseason
Lebron stays
Brk pick lands 2


Trade 1
Kevin love to la clippers for Montrezl Harrell,Patrick Beverly,Sam dekker,pick 12,2020 1st top 5 protected,2021 2nd,2019 2nd

Trade 2
Tristan Thompson,2 2nds to Atlanta for 2023 2nd

Trade Kyle krover to okc Thunder for 2022 2nd

Trade jr smith to Charlotte if kemba traded for Jutland stone

Buy picks 38,45,49

Draft

2-luka Doncic

12- Wendell carter jr

38-hamidou Diallo

45-Jevon carter

49-jontay porter

Sign Paul George 2yr 53mil

Sign demarcus cousins 2yr 52mil

Sign Jamal Crawford vet min

Sign Larry drew ii vet min

Sign toney Allen


Sign Richard Jefferson vet

Fire Tyron lue hire Larry drew win title


Starting lineup

Goerge hill

Luka Doncic

Paul George

Lebron James

Demarcus cousins

21 Apr 2018 18:37:14
Kawhi Leanord,Danny green to cavs for Jordan Clarkson,Cedi Osman,Ante Zizic,brk pick

21 Apr 2018 19:30:00
Zizic alone can get you Aldridge also don't need brkln pick for garbage players like green and Leonard.

20 Apr 2018 17:55:33
---Cleveland Cavaliers offseason---

Trade:

Cleveland Cavaliers - Sacramento Kings

Cleveland trades: Kevin Love

Sacramento trades: Zach Randolph, Kosta Kuofos, picks #7 and #36 in the '18 draft.

Draft:

Pick #7: C - Mohamed Bamba
Pick #8: SF - Kevin Knox
Pick #36: SG - Malik Newman.

20 Apr 2018 18:30:43
doesnt seem in line with sac’s direction at all.

20 Apr 2018 20:06:59
In all fairness donadams, I don’t know if I have faith in Sacramento’s management to remember what their direction is and stick to it. It’s certainly a short sighted move I could see them making.

20 Apr 2018 20:16:30
Big no from Sac.

20 Apr 2018 12:44:02
Lakers get Kemba Walker, Vucevic

Hornets get Lonzo Ball, Cavs 1st, Zubac

Magic get: Luol Deng, Hornets 1st (Lottery)

20 Apr 2018 13:11:57
I don't see Hornets giving up Walker and their lottery first for Ball and Cavs first right now. I understand it's an FA for three more years deal on rookie salary that is the most attractive thing for them, but Lonzo struggled through injuries and inconsistencies all season, not sure he's a deal centrepiece yet.

That said, this isn't the worst trade I've seen.

20 Apr 2018 17:03:09
I like this for Charlotte.
There are six or seven really good players in this draft, the night pick is likely going to be a roll player.

K walker is a good player, but Ball has the potentiall to become a top 10 player. So i would take the risk.

20 Apr 2018 17:55:56
yeah giving up lonzo and their lottery pick for lonzo is too much. if they are giving up both they should be able to get off something like marvin williams contract
just take the cha and cavs picks out and give orl something like LA 19 first.

20 Apr 2018 18:32:15
^first “lonzo” should be kemba.

20 Apr 2018 09:43:21
Wolves - Lakers - Spurs - Suns

Lakers get: Leonard

Leonard, Ball, Randle and Hart with a ton of money to spend.

Spurs get: Wiggins, Kuzma, Patton, Frye

Murray, Mills, Parker
Green, Ginobili, White
Wiggins, Anderson
Kuzma, Gay
Aldridge, Gasol, Patton

Wolves get: Ingram, Simmons, Chandler

Teague, Jones
Butler, Crawford,
Ingram, Simmons
Towns, Gibson, Bjelica
Chandler, Dieng

Suns get: Mills, Aldrich, 2018 OKC 1st, 2018 Cavs 1st

Waive aldrich, trade up in the draft for a pg

Draft, Mills
Booker, FA
Jackson, Warren
Chriss, Dudley
Draft, Len

20 Apr 2018 09:52:20
Take out Simmons I originally had the 4th team being the magic but switched it to the suns.

20 Apr 2018 17:15:06
I'd cut out Minnesota. Ingram might be a better player right now than Wiggins and is a lot more valuable and the 1st they give up isn't needed if you get rid of Aldrich. You might be able to cut out the Suns at that point and find a team that needs depth at pg to take Mills. His contract isn't great, but for the right team it isn't terrible. Also, Frye comes off the books this summer.

20 Apr 2018 18:34:19
as the spurs i'd prefer ingram over wiggins. his doesn’t need to be more complicated than just LA+SA.

 
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