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20 Jul 2017 17:54:49
Milwaukee Receives:

Allan Crabbe (Portland)
JR Smith (Cleveland)
Kristap Porzingis (New York)
Lance Thomas (New York)

Cleveland Receives:

Carmelo Anthony (New York)
Greg Monroe (Milwaukee)

New York Receives:

Kevin Love (Cleveland)
John Henson (Milwaukee)
Mirza Teletovic (Milwaukee)
Rashad Vaughn (Milwaukee)

Portland Receives:

Iman Shumpart (Cleveland)
Matthew Delladova (Milwaukee)

20 Jul 2017 18:13:30
I think the bucks are the only team that accept that deal.

20 Jul 2017 18:18:07
No way Knicks give up Zinger for Love and the Bucks garbage.

20 Jul 2017 18:20:11
So let me get this straight. Cleveland trades an allstar, a starter, and their sixth man. New York trades an All star and one of the best young bigs in the game. The Bucks trade the overplayed scraps from their bench. Makes sense.

20 Jul 2017 18:28:25
Knicks NEVER do this deal. Beyond ridiculous.

20 Jul 2017 18:54:57
Milwaukee gets Porzingis without giving up Parker, Middleton, or Maker. Not a chance. New York gets screwed.

20 Jul 2017 19:25:16
Not sure how Bucks get Porzingis for that little. Don't like it for Cleveland, they shouldn't give up both Shumpert and JR (korver can't play any defense) and don't think Monroe is the style backup big they need (need more defensive orientated big) .

Knicks would be foolish to include Porzingis in this trade especially with Melo able to get you close to Love by himself.

Doesn't clear any cap space but trade improve Portland's depth and would be a good move.

20 Jul 2017 20:49:15
Knicks ARE NOT trading Porzingis! President and GM said they are building around him.

20 Jul 2017 17:44:24
Milwaukee-Cleveland-New York

Milwaukee Receives:
F/C Kristaps Porzingis (knicks)
PG (s&t) Derrick Rose (knicks)
SG JR Smith (cavs)

Cleveland Recieves:
C/F Greg Monroe (bucks)
SF Carmelo Anthony(Knicks)

Cleveland Recieves:
F Kevin Love (Cavs)
F Channing Frye (Cavs)
C John Henson (Bucks)
SG Rashad Vaughn (Bucks)
PG Matthew Delladova (Bucks)
Bucks 2018 1st

20 Jul 2017 17:55:24
Bottom One is New York lol!

20 Jul 2017 18:01:35
The Cavs and Knicks both pass. The Bucks don't give any where near anything worth Porzingis and Monroe isn't enough to get the Cavs to include Love in the trade.

20 Jul 2017 18:04:32
For this to even be a conversation some combination of Multiple picks from the Bucks, Parker, Middleton, Maker and Brogdon would have to be in play.

20 Jul 2017 19:27:17
Bucks getting Porzingis for way too little especially when they have a bunch of young interesting players. Knicks would need a lot more to consider dealing Porzingis and in reality they shouldn't trade him unless Bucks give up Giannis or something ridiculous.

20 Jul 2017 21:11:00
DL is a clown. Thanasis for Noah bc they are same height it fair.

20 Jul 2017 16:57:36
Looks like the Cavs are signing D.Rose. I think this is a great fit. Clevelands " secondary scorers" are all jump shooters. Love, JR Smith, Korver, etc. Other then Lebron and Kyrie, nobody can really take it to the hoop and finish. Rose does that. He gets 18ppg not by shooting, but taking his man to the hooop and a very good midrange game. I think the following lineup is better then a year ago.
Pg: Rose
Sg: Irving
Sf: Lebron
Pf: Love
C: Thompson
Have JR Smith, Korver as your shooters to sub in as needed.
Not a Cavs fan by any means, but i think its a good pick up.

20 Jul 2017 17:21:59
I agree that it's a good pickup. However, I see Rose coming off the bench to provide scoring. I think starting JR with Kyrie and LeBron is still the best lineup with his shooting. Rose will play 20-24 minutes a game giving LeBron and Kyrie ball handling rest.

20 Jul 2017 17:22:07
I like the move if it happens. I think you have him coming off the bench though and play him while Lebron and Kyrie rest. That will let him have the ball in his hands more where he's at his best offensively. The Cavs can limit his minutes which will probably be good for his knees and let them rest Lebron more during the season. I'm curious as to what this means for Felder. I don't see them keeping 4 point guards on the roster.

20 Jul 2017 17:40:33
Agreed throughout, he has to be coming off the bench. A guard combo of Rose and Irving is flat out horrible on defense. AS a knicks fan, I can attest to Rose having ridiculously padded stats. When you actually look at his impact in recent years, he is a very negative player. He doesn't pass well for a pg, and whatever scoring he does bring to the table, his lack of defense negates it.

It isn't a big needle mover. Absolutely doesn't make much of an impact related to catching the warriors.

20 Jul 2017 19:26:48
Lools like the Lakers are getting in on the D. Rose bidding.

20 Jul 2017 19:38:20
Its a solid low risk, moderate upside move. I agree with others that Rose is much better suited coming off the bench and being someone who can create and run the offense when Lebron and Kyrie aren't in the game. I think it will be rare for Kyrie and Rose to share the backcourt together since its awful defensively and you lose some spacing.

I don't think this move will have a big impact on Cavs outcome. Their offseason has been very underwhelming as they were clearly inferior to Warriors and made no major changes as they watched the Warriors make more moves than them and Celtics add a superstar. I always thought them getting Butler or George was a long shot but I'm surprised they didn't shake things up since we already know this roster can't compete with the Warriors and they need to do something to convince Lebron to stick around. I guess they still can make some moves during the season.

21 Jul 2017 00:26:59
If they sign rose then honestly they are only one big trade to being close to the level of the warriors. Honestly Warriors are on a level all their own and I don't see any available players who could take us past the Warriors status but close to it. Honestly I don't believe they will trade Kevin now unless a rare opportunity presents itself. I do believe this would give the Cavs something to think about as far as starting center or the 5th player next year if those four are playing.

I do believe they will attempt to start both Irving and Rose sometime just to check it out and with that being the case TT most likely won't be in the game because space will be needed so Frye becomes more valuable with this move. I believe they should if they already haven't looked at a trade involving, TT, Shumpert, and even possibly Felder or Osman or both depending on the deal, for a All star caliber player like Melo, Drummond, Aldridge, or whoever else that fits the mold.

20 Jul 2017 11:34:33
Knicks Get: Wesley Matthews, Cole Aldrich, Devin Harris, 2019 Warriors 2nd (via Mavericks), 2021 Cavs 1st, 2023 Heat 2nd (via Mavericks)

Mavericks Get: Kevin Love

Cavaliers Get: Carmelo Anthony, 2018 Timberwolves 2nd

Timberwolves Get: Iman Shumpert

20 Jul 2017 12:00:57
Again and again, Cavs not going to deal Love for Melo.

20 Jul 2017 13:12:34
I don't know about that anymore USA. If LBJ really is unhappy about the team's current direction, and Gilbert wants to keep him in town long term, they may be willing to do something as drastic as move Love with Melo being the key piece coming back. I'm not saying they should, just that backs against the wall, it could happen.

20 Jul 2017 13:52:11
And mavs don't get love for that crap package.

20 Jul 2017 17:47:19
Triangle O, if Lebron wanted Melo for Love to happen, I think it would have been done a long time ago.

In this trade the Cavs give up the most valuable piece in Love and then add a 1st round pick to it (depending on the Lebron it could be a fairly valuable pick) . There is no way the Cavs give up all that even if there was competition for Melo, but with him only willing to go to Houston or Cleveland, why would the Cavs throw all that out for Melo. The Rockets are most likely offering a bad contract, either Ariza or expiring contracts, and what will be a late first or 2. Even if he would be willing to go to Portland, a bad contract would have to be involved.

If I'm the Cavs I'm offering Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Felder, Tavares, and the 21 first lottery protected. If that doesn't work o well.

19 Jul 2017 06:35:11
The Cavs get Anderson, Ariza, and O'quinn

The Knicks get Felder, Shumpert (next year he has a player option that he most likely opts out of looking for a long term deal), Frye (exp), Edy Tavares, 2 Houston firsts, and the Houston non guaranteed contracts

Houston gets Jefferson and Melo

The Cavs bench gets better with Ariza being a better 3 and D option than Shumpert, Anderson being able
to play Frye's role with better defense, and gaining a young big who can block shots in O'quinn

The Knicks get take back almost no salary after next year while adding a decent prospect in Felder and 2 1sts

Houston gets Melo, gets to keep their bench scorer, and gets Jefferson who is still capable of helping a thin bench.

19 Jul 2017 08:56:15
I love the idea behind the trade. Cavs strengthen their bench with 3pt shooting and hustle defense. Knicks rid themselves of Melo. Houston rounds out their Big 3. However, I think giving up 2 first round picks in addition to Anderson and Ariza is too much for Carmelo.

19 Jul 2017 10:14:10
Huge return for Anthony. Knicks clear winners in that deal.

19 Jul 2017 12:55:18
Rkenne knows his days as cav fan are over after next yr. #bybyelebron.

19 Jul 2017 14:32:02
Like it.

19 Jul 2017 15:08:52
Shizze75, Lebron or no Lebron I'm a Cavs fan. I'm not convinced he's walking after this season, but if he does the team is still a lot better than the late 90s/ early 2000s and when he left the 1st time. I have mixed feelings on Gilbert, but atleast he wants a winner. How's Dolan treating you?

19 Jul 2017 23:36:13
Gilbert only has been successful because of lebron. Don't kid yourself. He's as awful an owner as Dolan.

19 Jul 2017 04:28:15
The Cavs go all in.

The Cavs get Marc Gasol, Melo, Bledsoe, Chriss, Danny Green and a Phoenix 1st

Phoenix gets Irving

Memphis gets Love and a Cavs 2nd

Ny gets Thompson, Bender, and Felder

The Spurs get Shumpert, a protected Memphis 1st, and a Cavs 2nd

19 Jul 2017 06:03:00
I wouldn't trade Irving if i were the Cavs. If james leaves again, he's still young enough to be their cornerstone.

19 Jul 2017 12:01:08
As the corner stone they got the 1st pick overall. Besides he already said if lebron goes, he wants to go.

19 Jul 2017 16:30:46
This one is a fantastic trade for almost everyone involved. Memphis doesn't really get any better, but Love is 4 years younger than Gasol, so he should be around longer.

It's especially good for the Cavs, as it takes away their number 2 star, but gives them a ton more depth, which is more important to have around James. so I really don't want anyone to see this and make it a reality.

Phoenix gets a legit star to pair with Booker, and he's young enough that he will still be there when Booker is a top guy and Jackson comes into his own. They give up a lot of potential in Bender and Chriss, so they're going to need help in the frontcourt, but it's the beginnings of a solid squad.

NY gets Thompson to play alongside Porzingis, and Bender to back him up. More importantly, they're getting anything of real value for Melo, which is all they can ask for at this point.

19 Jul 2017 16:35:05
I think the Cavs have to commit to winning titles in the short term and worry about the future when that day comes. If they could get significantly better by trading Irving now, they should do it. Since he's still young enough to go to a team that's been rebuilding the past few years and he has 3 years left on his contract, his value is never going to be higher. Obviously, if they only get low ball offers for him there is no point in trading him, but if they could get something like I wrote here it would definitely need to be considered. After this trade, the team would
take a half a step back on offense to take a giant step forward on defense. They also end up with a few pieces to make a second trade.

19 Jul 2017 20:35:43
Phoenix gets a steal!

18 Jul 2017 20:32:04

POR get: Kevin Love, John Henson, and JR Smith

pg. Lillard/ Napier
sg. McCollum/ Smith
sf. Harkless/ Aminu
pf. Love/ Collins
c. Nurkic/ Henson

MIL get: Allen Crabbe, Iman Shumpert, Meyers Leonard, Channing Frye (exp), and 2019 1st DP POR

pg. Brogdon/ Payton
sg. Crabbe/ Shumpert
sf. Anteokounmpo/ Snell
pf. Parker/ Frye
c. Maker/ Leonard

CLE get: Greg Monroe, Evan Turner, Khris Middleton, Noah Vonleh, and Matthew Delladova

pg. Irving/ Delladova
sg. Middleton/ Korver/ Turner
sf. James/ Turner/ Green
pf. Monroe/ Vonleh/ Green
c. Thompson/ Tavares

18 Jul 2017 20:45:17
Cavs are taking on way to much salary.

18 Jul 2017 21:15:30
@rkenne salaries work out per trade machine.

18 Jul 2017 22:06:11
I really like Portland bringing in Kevin Love. That starting lineup is great (so long as Nurkic is who Portland thinks he is) .

18 Jul 2017 22:12:40
Bucks get screwed

18 Jul 2017 23:54:21
Personally not a fan of Portland getting Love. That starting lineup is great on the offensive end but have three bad defenders in Lillard, McCollum and Love. Love would likely be in the same awkward role he is in Cleveland as a 3rd offensive option and with Nurkic in the middle will still be relegated to behind the 3pt line which isn't the best use of his skills.

That being said in this trade Portland isn't giving up much of anything (some bad contracts, Vonleh and a future 1st) for Love so don't think you could pass up that value. I think Love is from Oregon originally so it would also make a good story of him coming home. Adding Love would improve Portland's chances of making the playoffs but I still don't think it makes them a favorite to win their first series.

18 Jul 2017 23:56:33
No way bucks do this they get robbed.

19 Jul 2017 00:13:23
I think Bucks say no. They would rather go for Love himself.

20 Jul 2017 01:20:48
Portland has no interest in Kevin Love.

18 Jul 2017 16:28:25

Cleveland gets- Carmelo Anthony

New York gets- John Henson, Mathew Delladova, Kay Felder, 1st rd pick (MIL)

Milwaukee- Andre Drummond

Detroit- Kevin Love, Rashad Vaughn

18 Jul 2017 17:03:26
Not really sure how Milwaukee ends up with Drummond for henson (underproducing, overpaid, disgruntled) Delladove (just not good and way overpaid) vaughn (who? ) and a pick that likely isn't lottery in the weak east.

They arguably get the best player, but offering up the worst parts. Makes no sense.

I just ran on the trade machine, a trade with the pistons and bucks for those 3 players for drummond. Straight up. the bucks improve by 3 games and the pistons are worse by 7. For obvious reasons, this makes zero sense.

18 Jul 2017 17:47:00
Hamburger is spot on about Milwaukee. The Cavs end up over paying for Melo. They aren't trading Love let alone adding a 2nd year guard on a team friendly contract who will be contending for their back up pg position for Melo. If the Cavs would do this, the Knicks are better off taking Felder and Love even if they don't plan on keeping Love. They could get a lot more than 2 career back ups who are in their mid 20s on fairly bad contracts and a late first for Love else where. If the Cavs were willing to do this, Jackson would have personally drove Melo to Cleveland a month ago.

18 Jul 2017 18:20:17
Maybe Drummond wants to go to a team that can actually make the playoffs.

18 Jul 2017 20:59:37
Ah yes, the foolish bucks homer comment. Well, how many times did the bucks make the playoffs the past two years? Heres a hint. same as the Pistons.

Heres another biggie. why does it even matter? Does drummond have a no trade clause? Does he have even a shred of say in the matter?

Well, Drummond wants a championship, so he should get traded to the warriors for a 2022 second round pick.

Foolish homer.

18 Jul 2017 22:16:33
Mancerei000, I'm a bucks fan too, but this is a trade favoring the bucks, who do need him right now, so please stop

18 Jul 2017 23:29:40
Well Schmitz here we go again with your cocky comments with me so please stop.

19 Jul 2017 01:32:19
Mancerei000, oh i'm sorry, i'll never do it again

19 Jul 2017 01:50:54
schmitz, I don't like you

19 Jul 2017 06:49:53
Hell No The Pistons don't want Kevin Love.

20 Jul 2017 01:25:32

18 Jul 2017 16:02:05
Melo wants, Melo gets!!

Carmelo Anthony to Cavs in 4 teams trade

Knight, Henson, Frye and Felder to NY

Shumpert and Monroe to Suns

Rose(s&t), Chandler and Jefferson to Bucks

Cavs 2nd rd pick to Knicks
Bucks 1st rd protected pick to Knicks
Suns 2nd rd pick to Knicks

Cavs retain Love in Melo trade

Knicks get Knight and picks for trading Melo and Rose(s&t to 10M+) and gaining also some TPE

Suns get defensive player (shumpert > knight) and offensive big man, Monroe will get a chance to revitalize his career

Bucks get Rose and Kidd's teammates Chandler and Jefferson

18 Jul 2017 16:38:41
Cavs aren't sending out enough salary, JR Smith, Love or Thompson need to be included (or Korver but I don't think he can be included in trades until later in season) . I don't think its worth keeping Love and Melo as both are primarily offensive players and one would be relegated to the 4th option which would significantly minimize the impact they could have since only one ball and so many shots to go around. Also, given the fact Cavs were a great offensive team and a poor defensive one I think they should be focused on improving on the other side of the ball.

18 Jul 2017 23:59:01
No from bucks.

18 Jul 2017 14:32:37
EAST Shake Up


TOR get: Kevin Love and Kyle OQuinn

pg. Lowry
sg. Derozan
sf. Miles
pf. Love
c. Ibaka

NYK get: Reggie Jackson, Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye (exp), Bruno Caboclo (exp), and Norman Powell (exp)

pg. Jackson
sg. Shumpert
sf. Hardaway Jr.
pf. Porzingis
c. Hernangomez

CLE get: Carmelo Anthony, Andre Drummond, and Delon Wright

pg. Irving
sg. Korver
sf. James
pf. Anthony
c. Drummond

DET get: Jonas Valanciunas, JR Smith, and Courtney Lee

pg. Bradley
sg. Lee
sf. Harris
pf. Leaur
c. Valanciunas

18 Jul 2017 14:59:58
Like this trade for everyone but Detroit. Pistons get an awful return for Drummond.

18 Jul 2017 15:06:42
Drummond is overrated.

18 Jul 2017 16:26:45
I agree that Drummond is overrated, but they still should get more than that back for him.

18 Jul 2017 18:57:44
Drummond is overrated? I feel like considering he's already been an allstar, he's a solid shot blocker, an efficient, but unskilled scorer, one of the best rebounders in the league, a physical freak, and only 23, at this point he might be underrated. He needs to work on his game defensively, but he has the potential to be an absolute game changer on that end.

18 Jul 2017 20:37:56
Precisely; you view him as potential.. which means he is currently overrated.

19 Jul 2017 14:15:55
Rkenne. that means you legit have never followed him, or looked beyond the most superficial statistics and his combine results.

He made one all star team. Roy hibbert made two. what's your point?

His team is SIGNIFICANTLY better defensively when he is off the court, and a decent amount better offensively when he is off the court.

His offensive game is nothing. He literally takes 95% of his shots from within 5-7 feet of the rim. Aka, he just dunks or does tip ins. Yes, he rebounds, but so what?

For his career he is a 38% free throw shooter. Do you understand how awful that is? He averages less than 1 assist a game. Awesome. And you said he's a solid shot blocker? ARe you nuts? This guy does not leave the paint. He is down low the entire time. He barely averaged over 1 block a game this year. 1.1 to be exact. Among centers, ONLY CENTERS, he was 18th in blocks per game. In blocks per 48 minutes, and ONLY centers, he was 23rd. This dude is tremendously overrated. if you simply looked beyond his combine stats and that he made a single all star game.

18 Jul 2017 12:55:07
Im a fan of these 2 teams but i'm very Dissapointed on their offseason moves..

Cavs signed Calderon, Green and Osman.. resigned Korver

Spurs signed Gay and resigned Mills, lost Simmons and Dedmon..

Both facing salary cap problems and they need to upgrade their lineup to beat the Warriors..

18 Jul 2017 16:11:42
Agree that they've both had disappointing offseasons.

The Cavs have been pretty confusing so far. I liked the Green signing. He's long, athletic and can score. He's not a heralded defender, but he has the size and athleticism to guard Durant and Draymon Green. It feels like they could have done better though and they missed out on some really solid perimeter defenders. The only thing I can think of is possibly they think Cedi can come in and play right away. They were trying to move Shump for a pick and that makes me think they're pretty high on Osman. He was a defensive stopper in the 2nd best league in the world, but we'll see how he can respond to the athleticism and speed of the nba. I hate the Calderon signing. They need a guy who can defend at the back up point. They missed Delly last year. The biggest disappointment is obviously not landing any of the two way stars who were available and the possibility that Gilbert getting rid of Griffin might be the reason why. There's obviously still some hope of a trade or signing after a buyout to improve the roster, but so far it's been pretty frustrating. The big question is are the Cavs afraid to get rid of Love, Irving, and picks because they think Lebron is gone. I'm not really buying the media reports yet. I mean we saw how fast the Paul George stuff changed and I don't think there are many teams out there that really give Lebron a better chance to win and he's a mega star to the point where market is completely irrelevant.

I'm not a Spurs fan, but I trust their front office. I think they idea right now is to try and open up cap space to add another star before Pop retires. They can't do that if they're handing out big long term contracts to marginal players. Pop some how makes players like Dedmon and Simmons out any player with athleticism and a decent work ethic. For the Spurs they seem replaceable. What they can't make are players with the raw talent to become offensive super stars and that's really what they need right now. They have Leonard who is great and they have Aldridge who just isn't the player we saw in Portland, but he's solid, but they need another guy who can give them 30 on any given night and create his own offense. If he can create offense for others that would be even better.

18 Jul 2017 09:57:36

Bucks get K.Love


Cavaliers get M.Gasol & C.Anthony


Grizzlies get G.Monroe , J.Parker & T.Thompson


Knicks get I.Shumpert , J.Green & 2nd round pick from MEM


18 Jul 2017 14:59:06
Bucks don't want Kevin love

18 Jul 2017 09:11:12
Cavs nuggets Jazz

Jazz receive

Nuggets receive

Cavs receive

17 Jul 2017 18:39:02

Cleveland gets- Carmelo Anthony

New York gets- Tristian Thompson, Brandan Wright, Troy Daniels, James Ennis

Memphis gets- Iman Shumpert

17 Jul 2017 20:44:09
It's a bad move for the Cavs to include Tristan in a trade for Melo unless they end up also getting a defensive minded starting caliber center back. Unless their is a trade out there where the Cavs get back significant talent along with Melo, the Knicks decide Jr Smith and Shumpert are enough for Melo, or he gets bought out (none seem likely right now) it's hard to envision the Cavs acquiring Melo.

18 Jul 2017 07:25:13
This makes zero sense.

16 Jul 2017 09:18:46
Cavs Knicks Mavs

Mavs receive

Cavs receive

Knicks receive

16 Jul 2017 11:44:02
Great deal for the Knicks, but not sure why Mavs or Cavs would do it. Cleveland would take a huge step back and could be a lottery team in a year when James leaves town.

16 Jul 2017 18:25:43
Hey Super, if LBJ leaves town in a year, Melo goes with him and they are a lottery team. See, Melo's in demand, which is more than you'll be able to say about "Brinks truck" IT next offseason.

Not sure the Mavs make this move.

13 Jul 2017 22:09:55
Cavs get green
Spurs get smith osman

Cavs get vucevic Payton young
Pacers get shumpert felder hezonja
Magic get love Tavares

Sign Allen bosh (if healthy) bogut
Resign Williams

Irving Payton Calderon
Green korver Allen
James green Jefferson
Young frye Williams
Thompson vucevic bogut.

13 Jul 2017 22:41:28
Forgot to add bosh so remove Williams

Irving Payton Calderon
Green korver Allen
James green Jefferson
Young bosh frye
Thompson vucevic bogut.

14 Jul 2017 00:16:37
Bosh is done and I'm not a fan of the 2nd trade. The first would be solid, but the Spurs would need to add salary. The Cavs don't need a back up center like Vucevic, Young would be solid off the bench for the Cavs but he isn't on the level of Love, and I like Peyton for his athleticism and defense, but he isn't going to get much of a chance to penetrate off the dribble for the Cavs, which is where he's at his best on offense. I'm not sure how much more he can give to the Cavs than Shumpert.

13 Jul 2017 17:43:50
Cleveland Cavs Moves

-Trade Channing Frye to Memphis for Brandon Wright (saves money and Wright can be backup center and protect rim)

-Sign Luc Mbah a Moute 1yr 3m

PG: Irving, Calderon, Felder
SG: Smith, Shumpert, Osman
SF: James, Korver, Jefferson
PF: Love, Moute, Green
C: Thompson, Wright, Tavares.

13 Jul 2017 18:10:24
Sure it makes sense for Cavs but why would Memphis do that without a pick or something involved.

13 Jul 2017 18:17:24
Idk I mean Frye could be a good fit for them, he shot 40% from 3, and he's also a great veteran presence.

13 Jul 2017 20:21:50
Maybe add a second from the Cavs since Fry is significantly older. They're both limited players with very specific skill sets. The Cavs could use more rim protection and the Grizzlies could use more shooting it makes sense for both teams.

13 Jul 2017 07:24:33
The Cavs get Melo, Leonard, Aminu, Covington and Mcconell

The Knicks get Turner, Crabbe, Stauskas, Holmes, a second from the Cavs, 2 seconds from Philly, and a second from Portland

Philly gets Love

Portland gets Noah, Shumpert (exp), Fry(exp), Jefferson(exp), and a roughly 20 Million dollar trade exception.

13 Jul 2017 13:08:38
Portland get screwed. Send love and Noah same place to balance trade.

13 Jul 2017 14:28:37
Knicks pass. Clearly.

13 Jul 2017 15:38:52
Awesome deal for the Knicks, who dump a lot of dead weight and get back some legit players. Cavs get screwed over, though. I thought this Love-for-Anthony thing was a dead mackerel.

13 Jul 2017 16:41:01
Supercollider, I don't like the idea of the Cavs trading Love for Melo, but if they could end up rebuilding their bench in the process, it might be worth it.

Hamburger, you would say that unless the Knicks ended up with Anthony Davis, Lebron, and Westbrook for Melo. Try get a real player for Noah, they get Crabbe who has improved every year and is one of the better shooters in the nba, they get Holmes and Staukus who have some upside and a few 2nds. It's definitely better than a buyou for them.

Shizzee75, Portland is in desperate need of dumping cap space. Turner, Crabbe, and Leonard are all on bad contracts. In this trade they dump all of those just for giving up Aminu and taking on the dead weight of Noah's contract.

13 Jul 2017 19:28:08
Funny how Supercollider continues to bash Melo, but two of the five best teams in the NBA are doing their best to get him in a deal. Guess he's worthless, eh Super.

13 Jul 2017 21:33:12
No I say it because they get role players in terrible contracts. No sakary relief and marginal talent is a negative. They are better holding onto anthony. Keep quiet.

14 Jul 2017 02:57:35
100% agree Hamburger, would rather hold onto Anthony for another year than take on a couple bad contracts and 2nd's. Chances are he probably walks at the end of the year anyways if he gets a chance to play with his buddies, which along with stretching Noah then would open up a bunch of cap space.

13 Jul 2017 07:05:58
Cavs Nets

Cavs receive

Nets receive

13 Jul 2017 13:09:13
A smh idea.

13 Jul 2017 04:11:31
The Cavs get Aminu, Turner and a heavily protected 1st from Portland

The Knicks get Crabbe, Shumpert(player option he will opt out of) Felder, and 2 1sts from Houston

The Rockets get Melo

Portland gets Ryan Anderson, Fry (expiring), Richardson (exp), a Houston 2nd and Houstons 4 unguaranteed contracts worth 5 million

The Cavs give Fry (exp), Shumpert (exp), Jefferson(exp), and Felder

Portland gives Crabbe, Turner, aminu, and a protected first

Knicks give Melo

Houston gives Anderson, nongaraunteed contracts, a 2nd and 2 1sts

The Cavs use their expirings to get 2 long versatile wings and a 1st. It would be a Homerun for them and it gives them a 1st to make other moves.

The Knicks get 2 young veterans with playoff experience and the ability to be great role players now and down the line. Crabbe may end up being worth his contract in a larger role. Shumpert gets to play for his contract this year. If they can't see him long term then he's an expiring. They get Felder who has some potential and 2 future picks.

Houston gets Melo without giving up any of
their defensive role players.

Portland gets a useful veteran PF who could open up the lanes for their guards. They also end up dropping 25 million in salary cap holds next year ( roughly 10 of the 25 million is immediate) which will help with the luxury tax that they are already paying and will increase when the resign Nurkic.

13 Jul 2017 05:12:06
No chance the Knicks get that return

13 Jul 2017 05:45:25
Take out the Portland first, give the soonest Houston pick to the Cavs and take out the Houston 2nd.

13 Jul 2017 13:14:02
Knicks need pg in Shumpert Det. For jackson.

13 Jul 2017 16:46:30
Shizzee75, the Knicks could probably have Jackson for free if they'll take on his contract.

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