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23 Nov 2017 00:05:43
Magic need 1 or 2 Stars!


Magic get A.Davis

Pelicans get Gordon Payton and Vucevic



Magic get Love

Cavaliers get Gordon Payton and Ross



Magic get K.Thompson

Warriors get Payton Fournier and draft pick


Magic get McCollum

Blazers get Payton Fournie and draft pick

comments guys i'm a Magic fan!

23 Nov 2017 03:47:57
your a delusional magic fan. they would have to offer atleast gordon, isaac, and picks (probably unprotected) to come close to an AD deal.
the cavs trade is the only one that isn't robbery, actually a good trade for the cavs.

23 Nov 2017 12:40:01
Yeah, pretty one sided. The Love one is the closest, but even that wouldn't be done this year. Maybe next year if Lebron walks and the Cavs are starting a rebuild.

22 Nov 2017 15:37:46
The Cavs get Bazemore and Dedmond

The Hawks get Deng, Shumpert, Zizic, Osman, Zubac, the Lakers 2020 1st top 5 protected, the Cavs 2021 first top 10 protected and a second from both

The Lakers get Frye(exp) and Bellineli (exp)

22 Nov 2017 16:55:45
None of those players help the Hawks, and the draft choices are too far down the road to be valuable. Looks like the Cavs dump unwanted bodies and the Lakers dump Deng.

22 Nov 2017 17:53:43
Shumps expiring will have some value next year, Osman, Zizic and Zubac are all decent prospects to throw into their rebuilding efforts, the Hawks will be rebuilding for atleast the next 4 years so the picks will be fine and having extra picks coming out of a rebuild have worked pretty well for teams like the Cavs, Boston, and Philly. This would give them 7 firsts in the next 4 drafts. They end up with 3 good rebuilding assets 2 decent ones and 2 low end ones for players that don't look to be in their long term plans and use of their capspace, which is going to be hard to use for the next 3 years any way and get out from under their worst contract to boot.

23 Nov 2017 03:52:50
good additions for the cavs, two guys that can really help their D.

22 Nov 2017 14:51:28
Chicago gets Deng, Shumpert (uses trade exception), Randle, Zizic, Osman, the Cavs 2021 first top 10 protected

The Cavs get R. Lopez and Green

The Spurs get Clarkson and a Cavs 2nd

The Lakers get Pondexter (exp) and Frye (exp)

22 Nov 2017 15:11:48
I can't see the Bulls doing this. They would want some extra draft picks.

21 Nov 2017 17:45:37
Trade deadline

Cavs - Clippers

Cavs gets:
Future 2nd round pick

Clippers gets:
2018 1st from Nets (via Cavs)

Cavs go all in this year and help their defense with DeAndre and help their bench with Williams. Both are expiring so it's a big risk, but another championship in Cleveland may be the only thing that keeps LeBron next year.

Clippers does this trade if they won't make the playoffs and tries to find a star in the draft next year. Griffin have 5 years left on his deal and finding some youth to pair with him wouldn't be the worst thing.

21 Nov 2017 19:23:35
If the Cavs are giving up the Nets pick, I think it would have to be Beverly as a sweetener rather than Williams. The Cavs have to many to feed on the offensive end as it is and struggle on defense. Williams isn't a player that's going to give them something the combination of IT, Lebron, Rose, Wade, Korver, and Jr don't already give
them and he's not going to help on the defensive end. Jordan is significant upgrade over TT, but I don't think it's enough to get the Nets pick from the Cavs unless it comes with another elite defender that would close up the finals holes left on the roster.

20 Nov 2017 21:31:44

Suns trade Monroe, Daniels, 2nd rounder for Thompson, Smith and Nets pick (plus trade exception).

Cavs get 9 million in cap space which they can possibly use to acquire another player, a frontcourt and SG upgrade to make another run at the title while they still have LBJ.

Suns get 30 million in bad contracts for three years in exchange for a top 10, possible top 3 pick.

20 Nov 2017 21:46:09
Wow, that’s horrible. You can’t get the nets pick for just a salary dump.

20 Nov 2017 22:24:39
I assume you forgot Booker and Jackson in the trade?

20 Nov 2017 23:58:52
No way Cleve makes this deal and PHX wouldn't either. Thompson is a R. Paul client (bad blood there), Smith is not the kind of veteran a team like PHX needs, or wants. Mostly, though, the draft pick won't move in a deal like this.

21 Nov 2017 01:59:38
Even with bad fits and bad blood, Phoenix makes that trade all day. They could easily flip Thompson, and might be able to flip Smith (at least for a bad contract with a better attitude) .

21 Nov 2017 15:13:09
No way Cavs give up the Nets pick for that. Even if that pick ends up conveying around 7-10th, it's still too much to give up for that package.

Also, while I'm not the biggest fan of either Thompson or Smith, they are not "salary dump" players. They're both solid contributors on contracts that are a little more than what they should be, but they're not the Jo Noah's of the L either.

23 Nov 2017 03:44:49
The suns have no interest in acquiring tristan thompson. Reasons are obvious.

19 Nov 2017 20:16:16
Clippers get Rozier, Frye(exp) Osman, a Cavs 2nd and the Celtics 7 mill exception.

Celtics get Lou Williams and a Cavs 2nd

Cavs get Dedmond and Beverly

Atlanta gets Zizic and Calderon

20 Nov 2017 08:26:06
Celtics isn't trading Rozier for Lou Williams.

20 Nov 2017 11:27:24
Why? They're about to have to sign Smart for 10 million plus and once Hayward is back there won't be many minutes for Rozeir, who is basically Marcus Smart light. Williams will give them a guy who can come off the bench and generate points on his own. That's something that only Irving can consistently do on Boston's roster.

20 Nov 2017 11:37:18
Rozier is getting better by the day and Williams is teeing off on the back nine. Maybe Beverley for Rozier, though it's doubtful Boston has any interest in shaking things up right now.

20 Nov 2017 16:33:37
Rozier for Williams is a decent deal cause like you said we need someone else who can create his own shot, but the 7 million exception is too much. I know its needed for salary purposes but that and helping Cleveland would deter me.

20 Nov 2017 17:19:57
Larry, the nice thing here is that Williams is on an expiring. That money comes off the cap and lessen the burden of resigning Smart and then the next year Kyrie and Morris. I don't see Celtics being able to justify resigning both Rozier and Smart and since they won't need both given that Irving, imo Smart, Brown and Tatum will play almost all of the minutes at guard once Hayward returns to the line up probably next year. Their 5th guard can either be a veteran on the minimum or possibly one of their picks from next year. Either way they can lock in someone for cheap that won't get a ton of playing time any way. Which will help them stay below the tax line for another year. That's important given the fact that they look like they'll soon be in the luxury for a long time.

19 Nov 2017 15:49:26

Bucks get J. Okafor, W. Chandler

Cavs get K. Faried, J. Bayless

Nuggets get M. Teletovic, I. Shumpert

76ers get J. Henson, C. Frye

Also nuggets and 76ers get picks

19 Nov 2017 16:24:40
I hate it for the Nuggets even with a future first. They give up probably the 2 most valuable pieces in the trade and Chandler is the best player in the trade by a lot.

19 Nov 2017 16:39:12
Sounds fair. The Bucks can use a Center, and a backup SF. Okafor and Chandler could fill those slots, even if they send a 2nd rd pick. Or, Milwaukee can also cut The two Cheerleaders "Terry, (40 yrs. old) and Vaughn" (Who can't fall off a horse and hit the ground, Or hit the broadside of a barn with a Basketball, even if he was standing inside of it) And sign Mindaugas Kuzminskas who was recently cut by the NY Knicks. 6'9" SF who can shoot and rebound.

18 Nov 2017 16:56:11
The Cavs get Delly, Beverly, and Jordan

The Bucks get Shumpert, Lou Williams, and Griffin

The Clippers get Frye (waive), Teletovic, Osman, Zizic, Thompson, Brogdon, Maker, Parker, and the Brooklyn 1st

18 Nov 2017 20:13:28
The Clippers should go in a rebuilt mode indeed.

The Cavs take a big gamle, they risk to lose IT, LBJ and Jordan, all for nothing and they don't have the Nets pick anymore for a rebuilt.

18 Nov 2017 21:05:41
The Bucks say No! No way Milwaukee is trading, Brogdan, Maker, or Parker. Maybe Dellavedova, Teletovic, And Vaughn? The Clippers are sure getting a lot, 9 players and waive one? ) While NOT giving up much? Milwaukee doesn't need Shumpert, Williams or Griffin. (They give up 5 players to get 3 back? ) They need a Center (Okafor? ) . The Cavaliers need all the help they can get!

19 Nov 2017 00:04:21
Dark side, the Bucks desperately need a second star or they're going to end up like the Cavs during the first Lebron era and Giannis will walk.

19 Nov 2017 09:45:03
Agree with bucks needing another star or Giannis could walk like to see durant giannis and Unicorn on the same team sky is the limit.

19 Nov 2017 14:48:44
@ rkenne_16, Agreed, Bledsoe was suppose to be it. But, I don't think Shumpert, Lou Williams or Griffin is the answer. Where would Griffin play? Giannis is now Milwaukee's PF, When Parker gets back, he will be the SF. I would like to see the Bucks trade Vaughn and a 2nd. rd. pick to the 76ers for Okafor. They need a Center. Henson is just a tall skinny PF playing Center, as is Maker. Give the Bucks some time. Bledsoe just got there. Middleton hopefully will pickup his game, as will Snell. Then Parker will be back. Milwaukee does need a 2nd star, (If that's what you want to call it) but, They need a center first.

19 Nov 2017 14:59:02
@ rkenne_16, Who is the "2nd star" at Cleveland? Love? I Thomas? Tristan Thompson? J R Smith? Give Milwaukee some time, Let them get a Center (Okafor) Let Brogdan (ROY) work with the 2nd team. Milwaukee doesn't need a 2nd star, They need to work as a team. One player can score 20-30-40-50-60. If the team isn't playing, it doesn't matter. let's see what Parker does when he gets back (Feb? ) He was suppose to be the 2nd "Star" before.

19 Nov 2017 17:15:23
Irving was the second star and IT can become the second star.
And Love is a great PF, he's still a star.

19 Nov 2017 17:31:03
Darkside, I would take IT or Love over any player other than GA on the Bucks roster. Middleton and Bledsoe are good, but not allstars. Brogdon could be a star, but he doesn't look like a high upside guy and I'm fairly sceptical that Parker can even get back to where he was. Plus, someone is giving him a fairly big contract in the offseason no matter what. It seems like a fairly big roll of the dice for the Bucks, who might have cap problems fairly soon.
Griffin would clearly be the 2nd best player on that team and maybe the best 2nd option in the East. There is no reason to think he can't start at the 5. There aren't many centers in the league who will physically over match him and he would be a nightmare for opposing centers to deal with on the perimeter.
Henson is clearly a center in today's league (a career back up center, but look at the pfs on decent teams, Henson doesn't have the offensive skill to matche them and will struggle defensively on the perimeter) and while Maker looks like he has the skills to develop into a pf, his best position at this point.

19 Nov 2017 17:54:18
Irving WAS the second star, (Gone, expendable) I Thomas will NOT be a great PG, just a PG. Love might be a Good PF but, NOT a great! Right now, Love is playing Center, And he's NOT a great one! Still a Star?, Or just another option? If L. James leaves, Cleveland will become what they were when James left the first time. Just another team in the East. And nothing more. Young players don't have a chance in Cleveland. What's the average age there? 30-34? Bottom line, Cleveland needs all the help they can get, Then let them play.

19 Nov 2017 18:19:10
rkenne_16, Any other player? You would take IT or Love for? WOW! Well I guess we all have our favorites. IT will see what Irving was talking about when he starts playing. I don't know about Brogdan and Parker, I have to see Parker play a full season without getting hurt. Brogdan was ROY last year, Now plays with the second unit, So, Will have to see? Griffin is a 6'9" PF. I don't see him as a Center anywhere? 2nd best option in the East? There are still Centers Gasol (Brothers) who would more than match up with him, he's too short for todays Centers, and more Centers Also shoot from outside. Henson and Maker are tall PF's and nothing more. No offensive skills, (Maker's 3 pointers? ) And Henson's left hook? Well, I guess we just have different views. That works for me.

19 Nov 2017 18:19:59
Love has been an allstar 4 of the last 7 years, including last year and one of the years he missed most of the season.

IT has been an allstar the last 2 years, was an MVP candidate last year, and the best player on the 2nd best team in the East.

Take Lebron off of the Cavs and if they can stay relatively healthy, they make the playoffs. The team would have little upside and would be better rebuilding, but a starting line up of IT Jr Crowder Love and TT with a bench of Rose Shumpert Korver Green and Frye makes the playoffs. If you take Giannis off the Bucks, you have a team similiar to the Suns.

19 Nov 2017 18:55:28
Darkside any player on the Bucks roster other than Giannis, not any player in the league.
Blake is 6 10 250 ( the average height of an nba center take from the combine is 6 11 and almost no NBA centers have Griffins leaping ability) He's not going to get pushed around by many Centers and on the offensive end, how many centers have the skill on the perimeter and athleticism to guard Blake?
Now let's look at players in the NBA currently playing significant time at pf Arron Gordon, Lebron/ Love/ Jeff Green, Green/ Durant, Horford/ Morris, Morris/ Porter, Ibaka, Aldridge/ gay, Ryan Anderson, Porzingis, Davis, Griffin, Giannis/ Parker, Saric, Kuzma/ Randle, Millsapp/ Chandler, Dieng, etc. All of those players can be effective on the perimeter. A hook shot isn't going to get it done for a pf anymore this isn't 1987 and Henson would struggle guarding those guys and it takes him away from the basket much more often where he's at his best blocking shots. He's a center. Again, I think Maker can develop into a starting pf, but as raw as he is on offense and him still getting used to having to consistently guard the perimeter, C is currently his best position until his game develops.

19 Nov 2017 18:55:33
Without James, I don't think the Cavs will make the playoffs. They are having a difficult time just winning games now. It was a allstar and MVP candidate with Boston, he's missed to many games to be considered now. Plus staying healthy is the key word. Shumpert is currently out for the next 1-2 weeks with a knee issue. The Cavs would be better rebuilding. With that lineup you stated, Its also possible they won't make the playoffs. No doubt you're a Cavs. fan. I have no team I'm a fan of. Just a basketball fan. I believe Boston wins the East this year.

20 Nov 2017 08:50:04
I would take IT or Love over any one except GA on the Bucks current roster. I don't think Parker will ever develop into anything more than a third option at this point, I feel the same about Middleton and Bledsoe. Brogdon could, but I doubt it. Griffin is clearly better than all of them by a wide margin.

Also, while at some point Maker could be a starting 4, Henson is clearly a player than can almost only play the 5 in todays league. He's a career backup center.
Griffin could play the 5. There aren't any huge mismatches for him to guard, specifically in the East, and he would be a mismatch for most other centers. It's not like Blake would even be all that undersized at the position.

I think Lou can play the backup pg or sg for the Bucks who could have Giannis and Blake stay in the game opposite of him and be the initiator of the offense. Shumpert can come in and be a versatile defender off the bench.

Also, how is Blake Griffin, Jordan, Williams and Beverly not much? Griffin and Jordan are both all NBA players, Williams is one of the better scorers in the league, and Beverly is probably the best defensive pg in the league. I'm not sure why the number of players coming back matter? In almost every trade for an allstar you see a package of players and picks coming back. Its not like players like Teletovic and Delly have much value.

20 Nov 2017 08:54:44
Darkside, I am a Cavs fan, but clearly, you're a closet Bucks fan. All of you're posts on this site are about the Bucks and tend to skew in their favor.

20 Nov 2017 16:04:12
A closet Bucks fan? Actually no, I live in Wisconsin. I don't live in Ohio, Plus the fact I'm NOT a bandwagon jumper! I post about local teams, Nothing more. Pity, Understand one thing, Most peoples "opinions" are like most peoples "backsides" The majority of them "Stink! " Now, Don't you have some Cavaliers to cheer for? Oddly enough, The majority of posters her, actually think their ideas count? Like some GM is going to read it and go, "HEY! " that's what WE should do. For me, Its "Grins and Giggles" and nothing more! You wouldn't happen to have a "fantasy" team also would you? Enjoy your day!

20 Nov 2017 16:50:07
@RKenne You stated. Dark side, the Bucks desperately need a second star or they're going to end up like the Cavs during the first Lebron era and Giannis will walk.

NOW you know why i reject all the lame Cousins trade ideas.

22 Nov 2017 08:21:44
Clearly, since you've went back and forth with me for a small book, you're just as invested in the site as I or anyone else is. No need to be pretentious and condescending.

Dacman, the difference in situations is Blake is locked up long term. Cousins may walk after the season and outside of the two bigs, the Pelicans roster is bad and they have no money, picks or players with much value.

18 Nov 2017 00:41:56
Cavs - Knicks

Cavs gets:

Knicks gets:

21 Nov 2017 00:40:27
Change Lance Thomas for sessions who can play both the point guard spot that the Cavs need him for now and then be the 3rd string shooting guard for Cavs behind smith/ Wade.
Also money-wise the Cavs are shipping off exp contracts to gain some cap flexibility so owe more money after the trade (if Lance Thomas is included that's the case) is not a smart move.

17 Nov 2017 22:43:02
Cavs get: Robin Lopez

Bulls get: Zizic and a second.

18 Nov 2017 00:16:12
The Cavs would have to add salary, but I like the idea.

18 Nov 2017 00:18:05
With what money?

18 Nov 2017 13:03:36
Have to be Frye.

21 Nov 2017 00:44:19
Frye and Osman has to be included in the deal to make money work (so the 2nd rounder can be excluded.

17 Nov 2017 14:42:35
The Cavs get Noah, 2018 pick swap top 5 protected, 2020 Knicks 1st lottery protected, and Jarret Jack

The Knicks get Frye, Shumpert, Calderon, a Cavs 2nd and Zizic.

17 Nov 2017 14:55:18
If Knicks are in clear the books mode i guess this works well Does Thompson slide to PF and start or does he or Noah come off bench?

17 Nov 2017 15:11:47
Noah comes off the bench. I wouldn't assume he could give more than 15 minutes a night and there is no way either TT or Noah starts over Love.

17 Nov 2017 16:39:05
I’d still like to understand what the Knicks fans want. Why would you pay such a high price to unload Noah? Are you assuming you sign a star in free agency next offseason? If you don’t, it seems like you just let go of assets for nothing.

17 Nov 2017 17:39:47
I totally forgot about Love when i made that post. That being said i like the move for Cleveland still. I don't see it as bad for NYK either.

17 Nov 2017 19:09:00
It's horrible for the Knicks. They aren't going to keep up this winning ways much longer. They have had a pretty easy schedule with a lot of home games. Their pick will still be in the lottery in a supposed load draft class. Noah isn't hurting anything that they are doing in the short term and this deal hurts their long term.

Noah won't be getting traded any time soon. Most likely if the Knicks really want to get him off their books they stretch him.

18 Nov 2017 03:44:28
Larry legend, multiple sources have said that the Knicks are looking to move Noah and in this trade they only lose one pick and the protection on the picks keep the Knicks from losing out on a high lottery pick. I don't see the Knicks making the playoffs this year, but they look a lot closer than anyone could have guessed. I think stretching him would be a terrible idea. Once they're a playoff team they'll need that cap space. Plus, we all know Dolan isn't going to rebuild for long.

18 Nov 2017 16:56:30
This is a good trade for NY.
They propably don't make the playoffs, so they keep the pick and they have the capspace for a good free agent.

16 Nov 2017 15:50:06
Clippers: K Love+ M Conley

Cleveland: B Griffin+P Beverly+ M Gasol+ L williams

Memphis: T Thompson+ Shumpert+W Johnson+ Frye+ 1rnd pick Nets+ 1rnd pick Cleveland 2020+ 2rnd pick Clippers 2018

16 Nov 2017 16:07:48
I like it for the Cavs. It's not great for the Clippers and it's a pretty bad return for Memphis.

16 Nov 2017 17:17:33
I said it yesterday, the Clippers are NOT trading Griffin after just resigning him to that huge FA contract.

16 Nov 2017 12:55:37

Pistons receive Brooklyn Pick and Shumpert

Cavs receive Pistons Pick and Bradley.

Cavs have IT, AB and Crowder of the Celtics team last year + LBJ and Love (big upgrade zo Johnson and Horford). They also have a good team if LBJ leaves with AB, Crowder, IT and Love (have enough cap space to resign them)

Pistons do it because they get the pick and have difficulties to resign AB

16 Nov 2017 15:02:01
I would like to see that Boston team. The problem is that Bradley is going to be a free agent to next year.

Maybe if the Nets pick is top 5 protected (swap with the Cleveland 2020 pick top 5 protected)

16 Nov 2017 15:02:05
Cavs pass. Bradley isn't worth that .

16 Nov 2017 15:39:48
*Cleveland team

This could work for Cleveland, if they take a top 5 protection on the Nets pick.
It's a lot of ifs, but
If the Nets pick falls in the top 5 and
If Detroit falls back and misses the playoffs.
The Cavs would have three draft picks in next years draft.

So they could resign Bradley, IT and LBJ next year and they can draft young talents so they will have a strong bench.

16 Nov 2017 17:15:47
Can't imagine the Pistons do it if the Pick is protected.

16 Nov 2017 21:31:23
@ps i think they still would. i don’t think bradley is going to stay in detroit come free agency, so its worth it if they get a pick around 6-12 for him.

17 Nov 2017 06:07:27
@donadamsky: won't work as the others proposed. Pistons take on Shumpert and give up their pick with AB going to the Cavs for only a 2021 pick from the Cavs?!
I could imagine a pick swap for the Pistons. They can swap with the Nets pick if it falls out of the top 5. If they can't swap they get a swap in 2020 and the 2021 pick of the cavs.

17 Nov 2017 13:31:59
I believe that the cavaliers can not trade away their 2020 first round draft pick as they traded away their 2019 first round pick in the kyle korver trade.

20 Nov 2017 19:30:53
i don't know why everybody thinks AB not going to resign with pistons they can offer him more money and the team is playin good ball.

15 Nov 2017 21:11:42
Cavaliers and Suns

Tristan Thompson for Greg Monroe.

16 Nov 2017 12:42:29
Thompson's the only other guy on the Cavs next to LBJ that actually plays D. The Cavs need to add Greg Monroe without giving up Tristan, not in place of him. That Cavs D would be an All-Time train wreck.

17 Nov 2017 13:35:59
Tristan thompson has not played exceptional defense since the 2016 season. Check out the game he recently played against the knicks prior to injury. Kanter dominated him as he had 1 point and 0 rebounds. Look at the first two games of the finals where thompson had awful games.

17 Nov 2017 14:32:01
William, so you're saying a sample size of 3 games should be the deciding factor on wether or not TT plays good defense? He's a solid defender. His post defense is below average, but there aren't many teams looking to consistently post up and his defensive versatility makes up for it. Monroe isn't a good defender any way you slice it and isn't going to help the Cavs on that end. TT can bring energy and defense, which the Cavs need far more than Monroe's post offense. Monroe would be a decent pick up, but there are plenty of centers that would be better fits for the Cavs.

13 Nov 2017 17:31:17
Knicks/ Cavs

To NYK - Frye, 2020 2nd (via Miami)

To CLE - O'Quinn, Baker

Cavs add depth at two areas of need while clearing out a player not in their rotation currently.

Knicks slot Frye behind Zinger at the four, clearing up minutes for Willy and Jo. Channing is on an expiring deal, and NY picks up a pick.

13 Nov 2017 17:58:04
This will benefit both teams. nice trade.

13 Nov 2017 23:45:43
i like it, though the Cavs may need to throw Calderon's expiring into the deal. The Cavs save some money, add young depth that could be useful with an older, injury prone line up, and get a shot blocker.

It's not bad for the Knicks. They need minutes for their bigs and this helps them do it, while also giving them more cap flexibility in the future, adding a pick and bringing in a solid veteran presence.

11 Nov 2017 23:37:08
Cavs get Monroe
Suns get shumpert Frye Miami 2nd

Sign Ellis

Thomas rose Calderon
Smith wade Ellis
James korver osman
Love crowder green
Thompson Monroe zizic

12 Nov 2017 04:44:47
Why would the Suns do this? Monroe has an expiring deal that will give PHX lots more cap space. Shumpert has 3 years left at $10m per. So, PHX won't do a deal like this, if they have to take more than another expiring deal.

12 Nov 2017 11:57:22
Shumpert is a good fit in Phoenix, but no way they do this. They want to hit the free agent market.

Maybe the suns do this if Cleveland gives them a swap option on the Nets pick with the Miami and Suns pick. And the Cleveland 2021 pick if they don't use the swap option.

12 Nov 2017 11:58:55
Shumpert only has a player option left after this year.

10 Nov 2017 11:38:51
What is the worst trade since 2010 besides the Nets- Celtics trade.

1) OKC- Hou
Hou: Harden
OKC: Lamb+K Martin/ 1rnd pick ( S Adams)

2) Clippers- Cleveland
Clippers: M Williams
Cleveland: b Davis+ 1rnd pick (K Irving)

3) NY- Tor
NY: Bargnani
Tor: Camby+ Novak+ 1rnd pick 2016 (Poetl)+ 2 2rnd picks

4) Suns-Bucks- Philly
Suns: B Knight+ Marchall
Philly: MC williams+ plumlee+ Ennis
Philly: protected 1rnd pick LA 2015 (2018 unprotected LA pick)
4)GS- Bucks
GS: Bogut
Bucks: M ellis

5) Other trade

10 Nov 2017 13:44:06
The Melo trade was pretty bad. Mozgov (who was flipped for 2 firsts later), Gallinari (good starter), Chandler ( good Starter), Felton (solid starter at the time), a 1st and 2 2nds.

Melo was a legit top 10 player at the time, but the Knick's roster was to depleted after the trade to really ever compete at a high level and I can't imagine there was another offer any where near that.

10 Nov 2017 14:10:31
Got to be the Mo Will for Boom Dizz and Kyrie deal.

10 Nov 2017 14:11:53
All good choices for bad deals but, I think if you asked "Media Anointed Genius" Sam Presti in OKC for a do-over, he'd find a way to hang onto James Harden. That team was genuinely scary with all 3 of those guys there.

10 Nov 2017 14:20:40
Maybe this trade was even worse than the Boston trade

Nets: D Williams
Utah: Favors+ D Harris+ 1rnd pick 11 (draft Kanter with 4rd pick, K Thompson, K Leonard and J Butler available) + 1rnd pick Golden state 2013 ( draft Dieng with the 21 pick, Gobert available) . + Cash

Or this one

Nets: G Wallace
Portland: Okur+ 1rnd pick ( D Lillard)

All trades on this forum looks good, if you look to the Nets trades :-)

10 Nov 2017 14:57:24
Golden State trading #3 pick (Kevin Mchale) and Robert Parish for the #1 pick (Joe Barry Carroll)

10 Nov 2017 14:59:18
Charlotte Hornets trading Kobe Bryant to the Lakers for Vlade Divac and bunch of crap.

10 Nov 2017 16:33:39
@ Yumbo, since 2010.

10 Nov 2017 18:47:29
Phoenix gets Marcus Thornton and the Cavs 2016 1st rounder (Skal Labissiere moved in a package for the Chriss pick)

Boston gets Thomas.

On the flip side of the Ainge coin, moving Perkins for Green.

10 Nov 2017 19:38:32
Gerald Wallace for the pick that became Lillard does stick out as pretty terrible.

10 Nov 2017 21:06:31
Forgot to mention that the two players from 1st rounder and pick swap were Jamal Murray and Saric. So both ended up as lottery picks.

10 Nov 2017 23:57:44
Mark Cuban would say rondo deal was a nightmare.

11 Nov 2017 02:43:01
James Harden trade was worse. and the mo will for Davis is close. 3rd choice is the love for Wiggins because the cavs could did Better or kept him.

11 Nov 2017 04:07:32
Love for Wiggins wasn't bad for the Cavs. Wiggins is a worse offensive player, rebounder, passer, and defender. Outside of being younger and more athletic, Wiggins reeally doesn't have anything on Love.

11 Nov 2017 07:00:32
I take Butler or George or cousins other then love because I believe Wiggins is better then what the bulls, pacers and kings gave up.

11 Nov 2017 14:11:56
Sixers get:Andrew Bynum (remember him? ) for Igoudala, Vucevic, Harkless, and a first round pick. Bynum never saw the floor for the sixers.

11 Nov 2017 17:05:47

That was a crazy trade indeed.

Funny that the Magic won that trade :-) :-) :-)

12 Nov 2017 00:33:28
Magic won that trade big time. And the same trade set the sixers back for years.

13 Nov 2017 13:41:09
Ohioboy, yeah, but you're talking about trades that happened 3 years, 3 finals appearance and a Championship after the fact. The Cavs went out and got the best player available for Wiggins and even though the fit has never been perfect, Love has given them more than Wiggins would have to this point.

09 Nov 2017 13:18:00
The Cavs get Bobby Portis

The Bulls get Zizic and 2 2nd round picks

11 Nov 2017 05:22:00
Trade zizic plus osman plus the cavaliers 1st round pick for okafor 76ers.

09 Nov 2017 08:34:50
Cavaliers and Suns

Iman Shumpert and Tristan Thompson for Jared Dudley and Tyson Chandler.

09 Nov 2017 13:14:47
Chandler isn't as good as Tristan at this point and Dudley isn't a huge upgrade over Shumpert. This would make an older Cavs team possibly the oldest team of all time. I really don't see the point for the Cavs.

09 Nov 2017 13:43:42
Another angle to why this ain't going to happen. Thompson's agent is Rich Paul (KLUTCH Sports) . The same guy who was Earl Watson's agent and Eric Bledsoe's as well. One could say that Paul orchestrated a considerable portion of the Bledsoe turmoil all the way thru Bledsoe's time in PHX. Safe to say the relationship between the Suns
front office and KLUTCH is not good at all.

09 Nov 2017 13:49:53
Phxfan also Lebron's agent. So I doubt the Cavs move Thompson without it being 110% endorsed by Lebron.

09 Nov 2017 21:11:25
rkenne, it's Le Bron's agency as he funded it, he basically started it, and now he not only supports it, he is also their numero uno client. By the by, how did Thompson get that big contract in the first place? That's right. LBJ.

09 Nov 2017 02:18:01
cleveland and la clippers

cavs get; partrick beverly, deandre jordan, wesley johnson

clippers get; tristan thompson;iman shumpert,channing frye, cedi osman, brooklyn pick 2018,





09 Nov 2017 05:30:30
sure, if the clips say yes.

09 Nov 2017 08:51:47
This would be a good move for the Clippers, this give them the assets to rebuilt around B Griffin. But i doubt they do the trade.

This looks like a steal for Cleveland, but i think D Jordan wouldn't fit in Cleveland's system.

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