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18 Jun 2019 03:26:33
Cavs-Wolves

Cavs Get - Wiggins, #11, 2021 First Round pick unprotected

Wolves Get - JR Smith, Brandon Knight, Zizic, Future 2nd Round

Wolves get out of the horrendous Wiggins contract.

Cavs get draft picks and a starting small forward

18 Jun 2019 01:53:34
I wish everyone would stop the beal talk there not going to trade him, I don't get how everyone thinks the wizards going rebuild there not . Yes walk out now but he will be back and they will make the playoffs next year . Here is idea of a trade

Wizards and Cavs

Wiazard get
Pf Kevin Love
Pg Jordan Clarkson to play point guard ( who they originally drafted )

Cavs get
Pf Parker
C Mahimi
Wizards get second star this year and get third star player

Cavs would have chance get young power forward and have two guys who would be out of contacts after this year that trade make a lot of since .

17 Jun 2019 20:38:59
The Lakers ...

Since probably Irving will really sign in Brooklyn to have is own team and to try a frist ring with the young core Lakers may target Walker as PG and it would may a lot of sense.

So Dallas goes young and offer Russell a max, maybe Brooklyn wants a trade exception in a sign & trade.

So Mavs go young in a crazy future:

1: Draft Day
1.1 Since Boston want to exchange some of their 1st picks:
- Boston: Jackson, future 1st
- Dallas: #20

1.2 Cleveland rebuilds:
- Cleveland: Lee (release), #37
- Dallas: J.R. (release him)

1.3 Detroit is stack in CAP and need scoring on the backcourt to allow Jackson, Griffin to win:
- Detroit: Powell and a C at #20, Hardaway (& young wing with their #15)
- Dallas: Drummond, Thomas

I think it is a win - win, Mavs get a perfect partner for Porzee and Detoit 2 wings and 2 centers.

2: Free agency:
2.1 Sign (and trade ?)
- Brooklyn: 14m trade exception
- Dallas: S&T Russell 5y max
2.2 Sign Oubre and overpay him to lure him away from Suns.
- Dallas: Oubre Jr. (2+1y 60m)

Drummond, Holmes
Porzee, Maxi
Oubre, FinneyS
Doncic, Thomas
Russell, Brunson

17 Jun 2019 20:46:33
I would go after Danny Green instead of Oubre to had some defense on the wing plus he’ll be cheaper

Russell
Green
Doncic
KP
Drummond.

17 Jun 2019 21:19:48
Everything being reported has the Cavs getting a 1st outs of jr and in general a 2nd round pick doesn’t cost 6 million.

17 Jun 2019 22:38:16
Small wrinkle. Teams have to use all their cap space before they can use any trade exceptions. So things would have to be reordered in order to get Dlo on a 5 year S&T.

17 Jun 2019 23:16:43
Cuban should be happy because LA is screwed right?

17 Jun 2019 23:35:03
Oubre and Russell will both be in Phx next season. Dallas has got a decent free agent to sign with them in 20 years.

17 Jun 2019 16:14:08
to hou: k. love, clarkson, bates-diop
to cle: capela, saric, dieng
to min: gordon, nene.

17 Jun 2019 16:28:49
Minny loses bad.

17 Jun 2019 16:49:11
@shiller gordon is better than anyone they give up, they can extend him, or flip as expiring if it don't work out. saric is good and going to be ext eligible too, but dumping dieng here was significant, 2 yrs of a bad contract gone, they give up basically two young role players but avoid shedding any future picks.

17 Jun 2019 18:05:28
None can't play and losing two rotation guts when they have 7 with rose and gibson as free agents?

17 Jun 2019 01:17:44
BOS/WAS

BOS get Bradley Beal & Dwight Howard
Sign Isaiah Thomas back to give him a chance
Resign Marcus Morris
Sign Jamychal Green & Wayne Ellington using MLE (split)

Pg Smart/Thomas
Sg Beal/Ellington/Wanamaker
Sf Tatum/Morris/Ojeleye
Pf Horford/Green/Yabusele
Ce Baynes/Howard/Theis

WAS get Gordon Hayward, Jaylen Brown, 14th pick, 22nd pick & 2 2nd round picks

Trade 9,14 & those 2nds to Cavs for 5th and select Coby White

Pg White/Wall
Sg Brown/Satoransky
Sf Hayward/Dekker
Pf portis
Ce Bryant

17 Jun 2019 03:00:15
Why do people think IT is getting a job?

17 Jun 2019 04:11:32
Celtics need at least the two first rounders to unload Hayward. So it's just Brown for Beal?! That will never happen.

16 Jun 2019 04:53:47
Cavs Trade Cedi Osman Jordan Clarkson 2019 first round pick (rockets)

Bulls Trade Zach Lavine

What y'all think?

16 Jun 2019 14:09:33
Why do the Cavs want LaVine?

15 Jun 2019 15:34:03
The Cavs get Batum, Biyombo, Williams, Bridges, the 12th pick and 2 2nds

The Hornets get Love, jr(waive), Clarkson, Zizic, and save 16 million dollars.

15 Jun 2019 18:17:45
So combining two lottery rosters. Lol.

15 Jun 2019 19:07:37
They’re getting a good sixth man, a 2nd allstar and opening up a ton of cap. That’s the kind of move they need to make if they want to keep Kemba.

15 Jun 2019 19:23:30
Batum for love even trade.

15 Jun 2019 20:56:31
Shizzee, how are those Knicks doing buddy?

16 Jun 2019 09:11:18
I will tell you in a month from now.

15 Jun 2019 01:47:42
OKC Thunder 2 offseason moves.

Move 1 OKC CAVS

OKC get Love, JR Smith
CAVS get Adams, Roberson, #21 pick

This trade has been rumored to work for both sides idk if it would. To me it makes since for both sides. OKC are in win now mode and even though Love can't stay healthy it might be worth taking the chance on him. They then cut JR and pay him only what's guaranteed so they save money in the deal. It makes since for Cavs they get a younger center who fits the rebuild age, and he stays way healthier than Love. While Adams does have a bad contract Love's contract is just as bad when u consider age and health.

Move 2 OKC ORL

OKC get Fournier
ORL get Schroder, Patterson, future 2nd if needed

OKC needs SG ORL needs PG. Both players are overpaid Fournier 17mil Schroder 15.5mil they both have 2 years left on their contract, and they are both bottom tier starters. Fournier does make more that is why Patterson is thrown in there. The two teams swap overpayed players to fill a position of need seems fair for both sides. OKC saves a lil more money which with the luxury tax bill every lil bit adds up quick.

They save about 9.5 mil from these trades, and add better 3 point shooting. They then fill out the rest of their roster with minimum contracts and their MLE in FA. If they can fix their depth in FA then this would give them a decent starting 5 to work with.

Westbrook
Fournier
George
Grant
Love.

15 Jun 2019 02:07:58
Magic say no. I am guessing Cavs say no. To expensive no good return.

15 Jun 2019 02:22:51
The Cavs can do better with just the jr contract.

15 Jun 2019 01:45:31
OKC Thunder 2 offseason moves.

Move 1 OKC CAVS

OKC get Love, JR Smith
CAVS get Adams, Roberson, #21 pick

This trade has been rumored to work for both sides idk if it would. To me it makes since for both sides. OKC are in win now mode and even though Love can't stay healthy it might be worth taking the chance on him. They then cut JR and pay him only what's guaranteed so they save money in the deal. It makes since for Cavs they get a younger center who fits the rebuild age, and he stays way healthier than Love. While Adams does have a bad contract Love's contract is just as bad when u consider age and health.

Move 2 OKC ORL

OKC get Fournier
ORL get Schroder, Patterson, future 2nd if needed

OKC needs SG ORL needs PG. Both players are overpaid Fournier 17mil Schroder 15.5mil they both have 2 years left on their contract, and they are both bottom tier starters. Fournier does make more that is why Patterson is thrown in there. The two teams swap overpayed players to fill a position of need seems fair for both sides. OKC saves a lil more money which with the luxury tax bill every lil bit adds up quick.

They save about 9.5 mil from these trades, and add better 3 point shooting. They then fill out the rest of their roster with minimum contracts and their MLE in FA. If they can fix their depth in FA then this would give them a decent shot at contending. A better chance than they have now.
Starting 5
Westbrook
Fournier
George
Grant
Love.

15 Jun 2019 04:19:04
Sry guys idk why the same one posted so many times.

15 Jun 2019 01:43:34
OKC Thunder 2 offseason moves.

Move 1 OKC CAVS

OKC get Love, JR Smith
CAVS get Adams, Roberson, #21 pick

This trade has been rumored to work for both sides idk if it would. To me it makes since for both sides. OKC are in win now mode and even though Love can't stay healthy it might be worth taking the chance on him. They then cut JR and pay him only what's guaranteed so they save money in the deal. It makes since for Cavs they get a younger center who fits the rebuild age, and he stays way healthier than Love. While Adams does have a bad contract Love's contract is just as bad when u consider age and health.

Move 2 OKC ORL

OKC get Fournier
ORL get Schroder, Patterson, future 2nd if needed

OKC needs SG ORL needs PG. Both players are overpaid Fournier 17mil Schroder 15.5mil they both have 2 years left on their contract, and they are both bottom tier starters. Fournier does make more that is why Patterson is thrown in there. The two teams swap overpayed players to fill a position of need seems fair for both sides. OKC saves a lil more money which with the luxury tax bill every lil bit adds up quick.

They save about 9.5 mil from these trades, and add better 3 point shooting. They then fill out the rest of their roster with minimum contracts and their MLE in FA. If they can fix their depth in FA then this would give them a decent starting 5 to work with.

Westbrook
Fournier
George
Grant
Love.

15 Jun 2019 03:26:12
3 submissions, really?

15 Jun 2019 04:18:32
Sry idk why it posted so many times.

14 Jun 2019 10:49:14
Cavs - Nets - Suns

Cavs gets:
T.Johnson (expiring)
2020 1st rd pick (Bucks via Suns)

Nets gets:
Love

Suns gets:
Russell (S&T)

Cavs gets a first rd pick and save money both next season and in the future.

Nets sign Irving and get a PF that can space the floor in Love.

Suns upgrade at PG and Russell fits their timeline.

14 Jun 2019 10:56:29
Make it Warren then maybe for the Cavs.

14 Jun 2019 12:56:06
Yeah, I don’t think that does it for the Cavs.

14 Jun 2019 12:56:07
Phoenix would have to add more salary (Warren or Jackson) to make salaries match for what DLo will be signing for. Phoenix doesn't have a ton of cap space if they also want the right to match any offer on Oubre.

14 Jun 2019 13:41:34
They can afford to sign and trade for Russell and keep Oubres cap hold.

14 Jun 2019 15:43:33
Magnus, is right and I was wrong. I was using the 7+ years playing max contract instead of the 0-6 years of playing max salary which is $25 mil in year 1.

14 Jun 2019 01:08:45
Cleveland trades: Kevin Love and Matthew Dellavedova.

Charlotte trades: 12th pick, Bizmax Biyombo and Marvin "Starvin" Williams.

Why for Cleveland? Get a decent pick for Love.

Why for Charlotte? Acquire a star to pair with Kemba.

Cleveland trades: J. R. Smith.

Miami trades: 13th pick and James Johnson.

Why for Cleveland? Get another lotto.

Why for Miami? Obtain salary relief.

Picks:
#5
#12
#13
#26

Make it happen Altman!

14 Jun 2019 02:23:05
Picks:
#5: DeAndre Hunter
#12: Keldon Johnson
#13: Bol Bol
#26: Moses Brown.

14 Jun 2019 02:40:42
Jr isn't worth a pick or player.

14 Jun 2019 02:51:29
You can get Brown in mid 2nd round.

14 Jun 2019 12:59:05
Shiller. It’s the money you can save with jr. not jr himself.

14 Jun 2019 18:18:39
Rkenne, if its a pre June 30th trade so you can waive JR's non guarenteed salary for 2020, then maybe. But #13 is way, way too high a pick for that. #26 would have to go Miami to even begin to have a discussion about it.

14 Jun 2019 18:33:31
Michael Jordan wants to reduce their payroll. Taking on Love's $30mm contract wouldn't do that. The Cavs like Love.

13 Jun 2019 17:56:52
Wizards Cavs

Cavs receive
Wall
Beal
Wizards 2022 first round
wizards 2024 first round

Wizards receive
Thompson
Clarkson
Smith
Henson


Wizards pay the price for getting out of Walls contract and start completely fresh.
All contract expire and of course Jr contract this year.

Cavs risk it all. Absorb Walls and Beals contract but get two future first out of the deal. Adding Beal to Sexton and Love gives the Cavs a competitive team and next year they will figure it out when Walls comes back. Maybe trade Beal more more picks and young talent and could do the same with Love if they want to go in the young direction.

13 Jun 2019 18:05:54
I can’t see the Wizards being willing to do all of that to get off Wall. It’s honestly the kind of deal it would take though.

13 Jun 2019 16:35:38
The Cavs get Schroeder, Roberson(expiring), Diallo, Ferguson, Anderson(expiring), J Johnson, Waiters, the 13, the 21, and the Thunder 24 1st top 10 protected

OKC gets Love, Olynyk and Richardson

The Heat get Grant, Patterson(expiring), Smith(waive), Knight(expiring), Clarkson(expiring), save 27 million this year and 42 million next year.

13 Jun 2019 22:09:08
Bad deal for Cavs. They take on 2 years of bad contracts with Waiters, Johnson, and Schroeder. They can get 13th for JR right now. They will get future 1st for Knight and Clarkson next season. That means they are giving Love away, they won't do that.

13 Jun 2019 01:51:59
Hornets-Cavaliers

Hornets- Kevin Love, 26th pick
Give Kemba a 2nd option if they resign him

Walker
Bridges
Batum
Love
Zeller

Cavaliers- 12th pick, Dwayne Bacon, Mkg (exp) & Bismack Biyombo (exp)

get expiring contacts and assets for Love

13 Jun 2019 13:42:27
It makes some sense for both sides. As a Cavs fan, I’d want them to push for Monk.

12 Jun 2019 23:43:05
Hawks - 5
Cavs - 8 10 42

Hawks draft
Culver (5)
Bol Bol (17)
Schofield (35)
Bone (41)

Cavs draft
Reddish (8)
Langford (10)
Jerome (26)
Claxton (42)

Young/Bone
Huerter/Bazemore/Bembry
Culver/Schofield
Collins/Spellman
Bol Bol/Len/Plumlee

Sexton/Jerome/Delly
Langford/Clarkston
Osman/Reddish
Love/Claxton
Thompson/Nance/Henson

13 Jun 2019 00:16:44
It’s not bad. Though, I don’t think you can take Reddish and Langford. One of those needs to be a safer pick like Hunter. Hunter and Doumbouya would be perfect.

13 Jun 2019 00:39:25
I like the trade and half the picks. I like Reddish and think he will be better in NBA than at Duke. I like Claxton but don't think he be there at 42, probably could get him at 26. I like Hunter or Doumbouya at 10 in that order. 42 would be good place to take older college role player.

16 Jun 2019 04:41:14
I could see this happening but I could see the Hawks trying to get it done with the pick acquired from the Nets instead of using both the 8 and 10. I could also see them sending back the pick(s) owed by Cleveland.

12 Jun 2019 22:58:08
The Cavs get J. Johnson, Waiters, Hill(exp), the 4th pick and A lottery protected Lakers 2021

The Pelicans get Love, Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, the 13th, 2 Miami 2nds, a Cleveland 2nd and save 7 million

The Lakers get AD

Miami gets Jr(waive), Moore (expiring) and save 13 million this year plus 26 million next year.

13 Jun 2019 00:47:06
Not bad, but I think Cavs would pass. They could trade JR for Waiters or Johnson and 13th pick, but are trying to trade JR for future 1st. I think they will wait out free agency and then trade Love for prospect and future 1st. But it's a trade I could live with as a Cavs fan.

13 Jun 2019 03:58:07
If someone ever offered what the Cavs consider fair value, I think the Cavs would trade Love. The Cavs differ on what they consider fair value. He's injured too much, and he's overpaid.

13 Jun 2019 05:02:41
I wouldn't mind it. Cavs would have the 4th and 5th pick but I feel like Miami would want the Cavs to take Whiteside as well.

10 Jun 2019 10:13:12
OKC-SAC-CLE

OKC: Kevin Love

Get Westbrook's buddy and hopefully make a formidable big 3 to compete

Westbrook/Shroeder
Roberson/Diallo
George/Nader
Love/Grant
Noel/Patterson

SAC: Steven Adams
sign Bojan Bogdanovic

Get a very good big man

Fox/Ferrell
Hield/Bogdanovic
Bogdanovic/
Bjelica/Bagley
Adams/Giles

CLE: Harrison Barnes (exp), Terrance Ferguson, 21st pick via OKC, 2020 2nd round pick OKC

10 Jun 2019 10:41:31
I like Love going to OKC, but they shouldn't trade Adams.

10 Jun 2019 15:17:05
Gasupo, in a dream world yea. but the salary wouldn’t work otherwise.

10 Jun 2019 17:08:18
They could make salary work without Adams but it probably wouldn't be a package Cavs would take. Schroder, Roberson, Grant, and Patterson all together is about 38-40 mil Roberson and Patterson are expiring them 2 together is about 15 mil. But this doesn't help Thunder lower their salary and i think that is their main goal right now.

08 Jun 2019 23:55:25
OKC-CLE

OKC-Nance

CLE-Roberson (Expiring), Nader (Expiring),
21st pick

I put a trade in early without Roberson. But the same reasons apply.

Cleveland saves long term money and gets a much needed 1st round pick.

OKC saves short term money and adds depth.

09 Jun 2019 01:29:58
Cleveland says no. They can get under the luxury tax for next year simply by waiving JR Smith. Also, I think Nance will have more value at the trade deadline for a team looking to add more punch than this trade package.

Also, not sold on OKC adding depth. Who is the backup SG behind Ferguson?

09 Jun 2019 01:37:58
Switch Nader with Diallo.

09 Jun 2019 04:22:01
Cavs aren't worried about shedding salary. They will take on more bad money for picks next year. They are better off staying in lottery next year and keeping pick they owe Atlanta. In 2 years they will have a lot of picks and a lot of cap space. LeBron's act won't play in a big market. LA is a mess and he will be a free agent again in 2 years when he opts out of LA. Cavs will be set up for another return and have young assets, plus enough cap space to get another big time free agent. CJ McCullum will be a free agent and is from northern Ohio. If LeBron doesn't return they will still be a playoff caliber team.

09 Jun 2019 05:48:27
If a GM breaks this rule, he is almost guarenteed to be fired.

Making the owner cut a check to pay luxury tax for a rebuilding, non-playoff team.

09 Jun 2019 06:33:50
Fredman, I agree cutting JR is the right move to get under luxury tax. My point is they have over $65 million coming off next year that they could flip for bad contracts the following year and pick more picks and prospects. If they move Love they would have a ton of assets and cap space for 21.

09 Jun 2019 19:47:47
Right, use those expirings at the trade deadline to get your picks. Those that don't get moved then become available cap space to take on more salary dumps for picks.

08 Jun 2019 06:10:08
Pelicans offseason

Trade #1

Pels - Jayson Tatum, Jaylon Brown, Marcus Smart, Pick #14, Memphis Pick

Celtics - Anthony Davis

Trade #2

Pels - Kevin Love

Cavs - Pick #14, Solomon Hill, E’twann Moore (both expiring deals)

Sign Malcolm Brogdon 4 yr 60 mil

Lineup

PG - Brogdon / Jackson
SG - Holiday / Smart
SF - Tatum / Brown
PF - Williamson / FA or Draft
C - Love / Okefor.

08 Jun 2019 15:19:23
Brogdon will get more.

08 Jun 2019 19:06:01
Bucks match that for Brogdon easily, I think a team like Phoenix could definitely offer 25 a year.

08 Jun 2019 20:18:17
Not saying it won’t happen, but Brogdon at 25 a year is an Evan Turner/ Nic Batum level bad contract.

09 Jun 2019 01:48:15
Isnt the rookie max at $18 mil per? Or is Brogdon in the same group as Jokic since he was a second rounder?

09 Jun 2019 03:15:40
Towns got 5 years 158 million, and he’s starting his second deal.

09 Jun 2019 06:08:33
Ahhh, i see my mistake. I was looking at rookie max deals before the large increase in salary cap due to new TV contracts (2 off seasons ago) . Year 1 was $18 mil with year 5 being $25 mil.

 
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