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24 Sep 2017 20:17:25
Cleveland: M Gasol+ 2rnd pick Minny+ 2rnd pick Miami

Portland: K Love

Memphis: Turner+Z Collins+ 1rnd pick Portland

25 Sep 2017 06:54:06
I like it. It all hinges on Memphis deciding to blow it up, but if they do, Memphis gets nice rebuilding pieces, Portland gets a great compliment to Nurkic and a 4th end end player, and Cleveland gets one of the best defenders in the NBA. Win, win, win.

24 Sep 2017 10:20:55
Buenos dias!

Mavs and Cuban should not hope and pry for a big fish next year we should go forward to add prosepcts!

My trade proposa:

Nuggets:
- Finney-Smith
- Harris
- Mavs 1st 2018 + Mavs 2nd 2019

Mavs:
- Barton
- Hernangomez

If not Finney-Smith and a 2nd 2019 to Bulls in a sign and trade for Mirotic and then maybe McRoberts to receive Shumpert and a 2nd from Cavs.

DJS, Ferrell, Barea
Wes, Curry, Barton
Barnes, Barton/Wes, Motley
Hernangomez, Nowitzki, Kleber
Noel, Mejri, Withey, Powell

24 Sep 2017 13:16:30
If Denver wants to Keep Barton but is willing to trade Gary Harris, in this case Mavs could another 1st

Nuggets:
- Finney-Smith
- Harris
- 1st 2018 and 1st 2020

Mavs:
- Gary Harris
- Hernangomez.

24 Sep 2017 15:11:01
I don't think the Cavs would need the 2nd in a trade for Shumpert. They get an emergency back up center and save a ton of money in the deal. Something like that' would be ideal for them.

24 Sep 2017 01:35:20
Cavs Spurs Phoenix

Cavs receive
Bledsoe
Aldridge

Spurs receive
Thompson
Osman
Frye
Jefferson
2019 from Cavs (Minnesota)
2020 second round pick Cavs (Miami)

Phoenix receives
Shumpert
Felder
Forbes
2018 first from Cavs

24 Sep 2017 03:01:37
2019 a second round pick.

24 Sep 2017 12:11:13
In other words, the Cavs get rid of every crappy player on their roster and pick up two starters. Can't see any problem with that.

24 Sep 2017 14:10:51
In all fairness Supercollider, it worked for the Thunder.

23 Sep 2017 18:41:13
Cle: Z Collins+ C Anthony

port: K Love

NY: Harkless+E Davis+Osman+ 1rnd pick Portland+ 2rnd pick Minny 2019+ 2rnd pick Miami 2019

23 Sep 2017 16:53:12
Cavs Knicks Spurs

Cavs receive
Aldridge
Carmelo

Knicks receive
Thompson
Frye
Jefferson
Forbes

Spurs receive
Lee
Shumpert
Osman
Cavs 2018 first round
Cavs 2021 first round

23 Sep 2017 08:48:56
Jazz-Cavaliers-Pacers

Jazz get Young

Cavaliers get Favors

Pacers get 1st Cavs, Shumpert & Frye

23 Sep 2017 07:16:34
Ranking the Melo trade options in order
Deadline: 9/25/17
1 . Trade Melo to the Cavaliers for Shumpert, three expirings (Frye, Jefferson, Felder) & 2018 Nets 1st.
PG Thomas / Rose
SG Smith / Korver
SF James / Crowder
PF Love / Anthony
C Thompson / Zizic

2 . Trade Melo to the Blazers for Harkless, three expirings (Davis, Vonleah, Napier) and a future 1st.
PG Lillard - Turner
SG McCollum - Connuaghton
SF Aminu - Layman
PF Anthony - Leonard
C Nurkic - Collins

3 . Houston gives Anderson and a 2nd to Pacers; non-guaranteed contracts/1st to Knicks. Pacers send short-term deals (Jefferson/Stephenson) to Knicks. Knicks trade Melo to Rockets.
PG Paul / Brown
SG Harden / Gordon
SF Ariza / Tucker
PF Anthony / Mbah A Moute
C Capela / Nene

4 . Thunder gives Kanter and a 2nd to Mavericks; Doug McDermott (expiring) to the Knicks. Mavericks Barea, two expirings (McRoberts, Harris) to the Knicks. Knicks trade Melo to Thunder.
PG Westbrook / Felton
SG Roberson / Abrines
SF George / Grant
PF Anthony / Patterson
C Adams / Collison

23 Sep 2017 07:31:37
The Cavs aren't giving up the Nets pick for Melo and it would take more to get the Pacers to take on Andersons contract. A 2nd isn't even almost worth it.

23 Sep 2017 16:51:42
Yeah, no way Cleveland includes the nets pick unless porzingis is included as well (which obviously won't happen) .

23 Sep 2017 18:00:20
Maybe the cavs pick but no way are they trading the Brooklyn pickf for melo.

23 Sep 2017 18:35:52
Indy would want a first

Portland would be a good fit for him.

23 Sep 2017 02:44:22
Wonder if Cavs are ready to start Love at Center and use TT in a package to get Melo. Makes sense for TT, allows KP play more outside offensively and be less of a bruiser in the paint. NY seems like a market to fit Tt's liking. Add Shump and Frye.....May have a winner NY, or Felder

23 Sep 2017 07:35:31
I don't see it. The Cavs already struggle on defense. That line up would give up way to many points. I honestly just don't think Melo to the Cavs makes sense for the Cavs.

23 Sep 2017 02:21:03
Cavs Spurs

Spurs receive
Shumpert
Frye
Jefferson
Osman
2018 first round pick
2021 first round pick

Cavs receive
Aldridge
Forbes

21 Sep 2017 14:32:05
The Knicks get Monroe(exp), Frye(exp), Teletovic , Jefferson(exp), Tavares(waive), Parker, Brogodon, and 2 Houston firsts

The Cavs get Henson

The Rockets get Melo

The Bucks get Porzingis, Ariza, Anderson, and Noah

21 Sep 2017 14:53:09
Don't see the Knickerbockers trading Porzingis, since he is the face of their franchise. If they were going to trade him, it seems like they had better offers before this year's draft. Don't see him moved anywhere.

21 Sep 2017 15:00:00
this trade was fine until i got to the porzingis part. remember what ny was asking pre-draft for him? i doubt they have weakened those demands at all. but in theory, giannis and zinger is a terrifying prospect.

21 Sep 2017 15:31:23
No from NY. we had legit talks for Booker and the 4th pick for Kristaps and Noah.

21 Sep 2017 16:02:37
Alexstorm, the Knicks asked for Booker and Pheonix told them to kick rocks. I never saw where Noah was involved. Maybe this isn't enough for KP, but what would basically be Brogdon, Parker, a 1st and getting rid of Noah wouldn't be a bad return.

20 Sep 2017 01:41:50
Cavs-Jazz-Pacers

Cavs get Turner, Young

Jazz get Love

Pacers get Nets pick, Favors, Burks , Jazz 1st

20 Sep 2017 16:04:39
I think it would be a great move for the Cavs. Love is solid, but he's not getting any younger, and Turner is currently cheaper. Thad also gives you solid production. The Pacers, if they were ever thinking of moving Turner, get a fantastic return. I don't think the Jazz do this though. As I said, I like Love, but he's not the type of player you're looking for if you're in their situation. He isn't enough to put them over the top, and he's not young enough to start rebuilding around with a blowup.

20 Sep 2017 19:12:11
I think it would be decent for Utah. They need to replace Haywards scoring, Love would be a great fit next to Gobert, and it's not like they're giving up anything all that valuable to them. If they had Love, they'd be garaunteed a playoff spot ( I'd argue Love is better than Hayward) so the pick would be fairly late Favors isn't a good fit next to Gobert. He will be a really expensive back up soon. Burks is decent, but he's always injured and their rotation has fine without him. For the price, I don't see age being a big deal. It's not perfect, but they aren't mortaring their future on Love.

I'm not sure about it for the Cavs on one side, I love Turner. The guy is going to be really good sooner rather than later, but I think for the next year or two Love is still the better option. He can still be an elite scorer and rebounder and has turned into a pretty solid defender (he actually was the best Cavs defender according to real d plus minus for what it's worth) . According to Lou they're going to feature him more on the post. They did that last year in the first quarter of games at times and he looked like Minnesota Love and if the Cavs are starting a rebuild next year he could be worth some decent young players or picks. I also don't like the thought of starting a rebuild and immediately having to give up a max contract to a guy. Starting a rebuild with a top 5 pick is a little riskier, but it keeps cap space open to take on bad contracts and etc. I think the Cavs threaded the needle with the Irving trade. I think this trade does that to an extent, but it seems like this makes them a little worse this year and makes it a little harder to rebuild next year. I also think they could get Young for a protected first, some expirings, and maybe a something else small if they really wanted him.

20 Sep 2017 23:03:11
I would do that trade.
I really like Turner, but i think we should go for a total rebuilt.

I still can't believe we trade PG13 for Oladipo.

20 Sep 2017 23:34:33
i don't dislike this trade.
Maybe if we could trade Favors for antother draft pick.

19 Sep 2017 17:30:03
The Lakers get Monroe, Frye, Jefferson, Felder, Tavares, and a 2nd from the Bucks and Cavs

The Bucks get Deng, Randle, Shumpert, and Clarkson

The Cavs get Delly and Henson

The Lakers get the expiring contracts they need to open even more space for them to put together a super team next year. They don't give up any picks, which will be important to fill out their roster in the future, they keep the two young players that they want to build around, Randle won't be resigned anyway if they end up paying 2 or 3 superstars in the off season, and Clarkson would also have to be dealt if they want to get 3 stars.

The Bucks get 2 solid young players that can help them score and 2 veterans that can shoot a little and defense without giving up any of their long term pieces.

The Cavs turn some of their expiring contracts into a player in Delly who could be really useful especially before IT is healthy and Henson who can block shots. This provides depth without giving up anything of long term value, gets them below 15 on the roster, and saves them a few million dollars this year.

19 Sep 2017 18:12:21
Bucks say NO!

20 Sep 2017 23:06:49
I still believe Randle can become good, it's a fair trade, but i don't think the Bucks need him.

19 Sep 2017 12:24:47
Cavs - Knicks

Cavs gets:
Lee
O'Quinn

Knicks gets:
Shumpert
Tavares
Felder
2021 1st Cavs (Lottery protected)

Cavs gets a 3 and D player in Lee to strength their bench and a backup center in O'Quinn.

Knicks do this trade to get a future first and give more minutes to younger players.

Maybe the protection should be top 20?

19 Sep 2017 14:07:31
Knicks really get nothing in that deal, and give up a decent rotation big in O'Quinn. NY should pass hard on that one.

19 Sep 2017 14:26:46
It doesn't really seem worth it for the Cavs. I don't see much separation between Zizic and O'quinn, until IT is healthy a 4th pg is more valuable than another guy who can play center, and I feel like unless someone clearly better than Jr comes available there's no point in trading for another sg. The Cavs are the favorites to land Wade after a buyout and already have 4 or 5 players who can give decent minutes at the position.

18 Sep 2017 15:21:48
MILWAUKEE-New York-CLEVELAND-Indiana

Milwaukee receives:
V. Oladipo (IND)
T. Young (IND)
L. Thomas (NYK)

New York receives:
T. Thompson (CLE)
M. Teletovic (MKE)

Cleveland receives:
C Anthony (NYK)
A. Jefferson (IND)
M. Delladova (MKE)

Indiana receives:
G. Monroe (MKE)
J. Henson (MKE)
J.R. Smith (CLE)
I. Shumpert (CLE)

18 Sep 2017 15:36:25
Indiana will not give up Oladipo at least not for this. Indiana gave up George for Victor and Sabonis so the value has to be high on them plus Indiana has Jefferson and Turner still so adding Henson and Monroe wouldn't make sense.

19 Sep 2017 13:34:57
Maybe if Love was traded to Indiana it would work instead of JR or Shumpert?

19 Sep 2017 15:37:09
DL, so the Cavs trade Love and Thompson (really the only two players on the roster that can start at center and their two best rebounders) to get back Melo (the Cavs didn't even want him in a package for Irving), Delly (would be a third string point guard and only play limited minutes in the playoffs), and Jefferson (really doesn't fit the offense and would only get minutes because there wouldn't be anyone else to fill them at center)? I'm not sure if the Cavs do the original trade, but just throwing in Love is ridiculous.

I also don't think the Pacers would be interested in Love since they're looking to rebuild and he is 29.

The only team that would definitely say yes to either version of this trade is the Bucks. They give up almost nothing and get back a decent starter in Young and a really good young 2way Sg in Olidipo. Maybe the Knicks say yes, but they already have multiple solid young big men and they would have 2 centers making over 15 million each.

19 Sep 2017 22:32:46
The bucks should include giannis to Indy:-)

17 Sep 2017 15:05:25
76ers/Cavs

Sixers get:Frye,Cavs own 2018 1st
Cavs get:Holmes,Rockets 2018 2nd via 76ers.

Sixers could use Fryes big man shooting off bench. Gain late 1st rd pick.

Cavs could use Holmes as back up for Thompson and not lose a step(Holmes may actually be the better player here), and save 6 million in salary against the cap(which probably equates to a $15mill total savings).

17 Sep 2017 15:13:31
Frye is a non-rotation player even in Philly and the Cavs' No. 1 is not worth much.
Holmes is a legit player who would cost more than what Cleveland is giving up.

18 Sep 2017 00:48:56
Supercollider: could the celtics use Holmes in their big man rotation? What would the boys from beantown be willing to give up for him in a fair deal? Great thing about Holmes contract is its for 1.4 this year and a team option 1.6 for the following year. Awesome for his production and potential.

18 Sep 2017 04:10:33
Holmes is a solid player, but I think Frye would be in Philly's rotation Collider. I think it all depends on how comfortable Philly is with Embiids healthy. If they aren't (speaking more long term) they need to keep Holmes as insurance. If they are, they might want to try and sell high on Holmes, who won't be playing a ton of minutes this year, since they probably won't want to pay him in 2 years. He could be looking at 10+ million dollars. Maybe out could switch the direction the 2nd is going though. I like it for the Cavs.

18 Sep 2017 10:29:53
Voug - After Fultz/ Tatum it's unlikely Boston and Philly would make another big trade. Holmes has great potential, but he has yet to play in a big game so his projected 36-minute stats (17 ppg, 1.9 blocks) might be empty calories. As to compensation, Boston's roster now has players who would be too much of an overpay plus players who wouldn't be enough to get Holmes. Suppose maybe Rozier would be somewhat equal value, but that would thin out a backcourt that already could use a little more depth. Plus, moving Holmes would force Philly to give minutes to Okafor, so it might be a trade that would hurt both teams.

18 Sep 2017 21:06:10
Sixers traded up to #25 this year to draft 7'1" Pasecniks from Latvia. he's the long term back up for Embiid. Amir Johnson gives immediate help inside to okafor if embiid gets hurt again. Holmes value is very high at the moment. Time to sell. Who needs a young, high upside bigman on a bargain basement contract for the next 2 years? Any trade ideas?

15 Sep 2017 01:46:36
With Memphis' playoff contention appearing to be over it's time to sell high on Gasol and get something for him

Memphis trade: Gasol

Cavs trade: Shumpert, Thompson, Zizic, Nets 1st, Cavs 1st

Memphis obtain a potential top 3 pick, coupled with their own pick to restart the franchise ( plus role players)

Cavs get a 4th all star to compete with the warriors in a spot in which they are weak in, plus with gasol's range, passing and defensive ability allows him to slide smoothly in with cavs.

15 Sep 2017 04:49:56
I don't see the cavs trading the nets pick for anyone other then cousins or davis, and I highly doubt davis gets traded by nop .

15 Sep 2017 05:20:59
I'd rather have gasol than cousins, considering their contracts. You don't trade the nets pick for an all star on an expiring deal.

15 Sep 2017 05:55:49
I don't see them trading for Cousins. Then they would have Thomas, Cousins and James all free agents next year and all can leave and they get nothing.

15 Sep 2017 13:04:48
In my opinion, Gasol is to old to give up the Brooklyn pick for. I don't see Memphis getting that kind of return for him from anyone. That's a better package than players like Butler, George and Cousins ended up netting. All 3 are better and younger players and two of them had 2 years left on their contract, which is what Gasol has left.

15 Sep 2017 13:17:23
I agree with rkenne, giving up that pick is too much for a guy that has turned to the back half of his career. I think if you did that exact package without the Nets pick it would be good for both teams.

15 Sep 2017 18:42:41
Yeah, maybe replace the Nets picks with a Cavs lottery protected 2021 pick, Triangle. Something like Tristan, Shumpert or Frye (Shumpert more useful, but Frye has the better contract) whichever Memphis preferred, then whoever Memphis prefers out of Osman, Zizic, or Felder, the Cavs 2018 pick and the Cavs 2021 pick lottery protected would probably be the best the Cavs would do.

17 Sep 2017 01:59:28
That' nets pick isn't top 3 nets are better than magic bulls hawks atm I believe silver will give bulls it bc there a top market team to make nba $ who should bulls pick if it's first MPJ bagley or doncic?

14 Sep 2017 12:04:33
If Cavs have Shumpert, Frye (exp) & their 2018 own 1st to trade, who would they use them for?

it should be a perimeter defender or a decent back up big

some list,

To Chicago for Robin Lopez?
To San Antonio for Danny Green? highly unlikely though
To Pacers for Thad Young?
To Knicks for Oquinn & Thomas or Lee?
To Mavericks for Wesley Matthews & 2nd?
To Raptors for Valanciunas?
To Bucks for Monroe?
To Hornets for MKG?
To Thunder for Roberson?

any idea guys?

14 Sep 2017 13:34:48
Cleveland's own No.1 will be late 20s at best, so it has little value (in fact, teams would prefer an early 2nd to a late first because first-rounders require guaranteed money) .
That leaves Frye, who is cooked, and Shumpert, who has little value and is at best a lower-rotation player.
Out of your offers I see maybe Valanciunas, but none of the others. But even at that, Valanciunas might tick off James by clogging the lane.

14 Sep 2017 15:50:29
I don't see Val, it would just leave the Raps too thin at the five. I agree Super with your valuation, so maybe Monroe at best, and probably not even him.

13 Sep 2017 10:49:25
Cavaliers-Thunder-Suns-Heat

Cavs get Whiteside , Singler & Warren

Thomas-Rose-Calderon
Smith-Shumpert
James-Korver-Singler
Crowder-Warren-Frye
Whiteside-Zizic

Thunder get Love & Chandler

Westbrook-Felton
Roberson-Ferguson
George-Abrines-Grant
Love-Patterson
Chandler-Kanter

Suns get Thompson & Heat 1st

Bledsoe-Ulis-Knight
Booker-Dudley
Jackson-Millsap
Chriss-Williams
Thompson-Bender

Heat get Nets 1st, Thunder 1st & Adams

Dragic-Johnson
Waiters-McGruder
Winslow-Richardson
Johnson-Olynyk
Adams-Adebayo

13 Sep 2017 12:52:17
The Cavs probably get slightly worse here while also giving up the Nets pick.

13 Sep 2017 20:59:48
I don't like it for the thunder. They are losing young adams who still has plenty of time to improve and a 1st round pick for kevin love who often has health problems and is not consistently effective against the warriors which the Thunder would need in the playoffs.

14 Sep 2017 01:05:04
Sun's already have heats pick.

13 Sep 2017 09:26:13
Cavaliers-Heat-Pelicans

Cavaliers get Whiteside

Thomas-Rose-Calderon
Crowder-Smith
James-Korver-Jefferson
Love-Green-Frye
Whiteside-Zizic-Tavares

Heat get Nets pick, Thompson, Ajinca , Etwann Moore

Dragic-Moore
Waiters-Johnson
Winslow-Richardson-McGruder
Johnson-Olynyk
Thompson-Ajinca

Pelicans get Shumpert

Holiday-Rondo
Allen-Crawford
Shumpert-Hill
Davis-Cunningham
Cousins-Asik

13 Sep 2017 17:18:47
I wouldn't trade the Brooklyn pick straight up for Whiteside, never mind trading Thompson and Shumpert.

12 Sep 2017 13:35:25
cavs and bucks


Cavs get Jabari parker, kris middleton


Bucks get Iman shumpert, channing frye, richard jefferson, 2018 cavs own pick

waive tavares and felder

sign buyout of d Wade

Cavs line up

I.T, rose, calderon

smith,wade,middleton,korver,

james,crowder,osman

love,parker,green,

thompson,zizic

12 Sep 2017 14:23:10
Maybe if it were the Brooklyn pick it would make some sense, but this is just awful for the Bucks.

12 Sep 2017 15:09:13
Just take the "02" off your name. THAT is what the Bucks do when presented that trade.

12 Sep 2017 16:00:15
Yeah. Bucks would never go for this. Very one-sided trade.

12 Sep 2017 17:46:59
I can't tell what's the most unbelievable part of this trade. Whether it be that BOTH JR Smith and Dwayne Wade are ahead of Kris Middleton on the depth chart you presented or that the Cavs get Middleton and Jabari Parker for absolute trash and a pick either 29 or 30.

 
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