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16 Aug 2018 22:17:56
4 team Whiteside trade:

Bucks send: Snell
Receive: Jr Smith
Smith is an upgrade in the short term, and can be sold as a large expiring or waived to create additional cap space next offseason.

Heat send: Whiteside
Receive: TT, Ajinca (waive), '19 & 2x '21 2nds
Get a cheaper backup C who will be less of a headache, also get some 2nds to restock their tradable assets. This move is all about ushering in the era of Bam.

Pels send: Ajinca, '19 & '21 2nds
Receive: Korver
Add some much needed shooting and dump an unused C.

Cavs send: TT, Korver, Smith, '21 2nd
Receive: Whiteside, Snell
Upgrade a C and is a good fit next to Love. Also get a younger prospect to groom into their next 3&D wing

16 Aug 2018 19:57:32
Trade #1

Cleveland - Denver

Cleveland trades: Collin Sexton and Tristan Thompson

Denver trades: Jamaal Murray and Gary Harris

Why for Cleveland? Acquire two talented guards that still have room to grow. They could be our backcourt of the future.

Why for Denver? Sexton gives them their point guard of the future. Thompson is added for salary purposes.

Trade #2

Cleveland - Oklahoma City

Cleveland trades: Jordan Clarkson and J. R. Smith

Oklahoma City trades: Steven Adams and Kyle Singler

Why for Cleveland? Upgrade their center position; Adams is an underrated big and fits perfectly next to Love. Singler could be a backup combo forward.

Why for Oklahoma City? They get a starting calliber shooting guard in Clarkson. Smith is added for salary purposes.

Cleveland starting line-up
PG: Jamaal Murray / George Hill
SG: Gary Harris / Kyle Korver
SF: Cedi Osman / Sam Dekker / Kyle Singler
PF: Kevin Love / Larry Nance / Channing Frye
C: Steven Adams / Ante Zizic.

16 Aug 2018 20:13:18
They’re both bad for the other team

Denver gives up 2 proven players that could potentially be allstars at some point. The Cavs would be happy if Sexton was that good.

OKC laughs at the 2nd one. Adams is a top 15 center. Clarkson isn’t good and Smith is just a contract that could be used to dump cap space.

16 Aug 2018 20:44:37
Thanks for the post Cleveland homer!

Sexton may or may not end up being as good as Murray, and Thompson for Harris is just a joke.

Why would OKC need Clarkson with Schroder in town, and why would the Thunder give up Adams, who is key to their defensive success for a selfish, streaky shooter in Smith?

16 Aug 2018 23:52:00
I realize murray and Harris aren't all stars but they are high end nba players. Sexton is a gamble, and Thompson is overpaid.

15 Aug 2018 22:20:22
Next move for Thunder. Let me know what y'all think.
Three team trade Thunder, Cavs, Pelicans

Thunder get Mirotic, and Korver
Pelicans get Schroder
Cavs get Patterson, and unprotected 2nd rd pick

Thunder get a stretch 4 that can start, knock down 3’s, and rebound. And get a solid 3 pt shooter in Korver that can play back up SF.

Pelicans free up playing time for Randle and get a playmaker that is better than Payton to replace Rondo at starting PG.

Cavs free up a lil salary, they clear up a lil of the jam of SG SF players while getting a quality back up PF in Patterson. Even though Patterson didn't play much last year he was coming off of an injury he will b fully healthy now, and they get a 2nd round pick. I know they wanted a first for him but I don't see that happening. If someone was going to offer a first he would already be traded.

Westbrook/ Felton
Roberson/ Abrines/ Ferguson/ Diallo
George/ Korver/ TLC/ Nader
Mirotic/ Grant
Adams/ Noel.

15 Aug 2018 01:59:03
The Wizards get Hill, Korver, and Nance

The Cavs get Mahimi, Smith, Brown, a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd

13 Aug 2018 06:26:30

MIA get Reggie Jackson, Tristan Thompson, Stanley Johnson, 2nd round pick from CLE & 1st round pick (protected) from DET
- they take almost same amount of money but gain a young player and some assets. Jackson could thrive under MIA system and be an effective point guard for them

Pg Jackson/T.Johnson
Sg Wade/Waiters/McGruder
Sf S.Johnson/Ellington
Pf J.Johnson/Olynyk
Ce Adebayo/Thompson

CLE get Hassan Whiteside
- get a rim protector

Pg Sexton/Hill
Sg Smith/Clarkson/Nwaba
Sf Hood/Osman/Dekker
Pf Love/Nance
Ce Whiteside/Zizic

DET get Goran Dragic & Kyle Korver
- get guards who can shoot well and fit the team

Pg Dragic/Smith/Calderon
Sg Kennard/Galloway/Thomas
Sf Korver/Bullock/GR3
Pf Griffin/Ellenson
Ce Drummond/Pachulia

13 Aug 2018 11:53:48

12 Aug 2018 21:06:49
Cleveland: H whiteside

Miami: K Korver+ t Thompson+ 2rnd pick

12 Aug 2018 23:25:56
I think the fires have cooled in the last week since that was announced.

13 Aug 2018 00:11:59
Kardashian curse can't even get you whiteside.

13 Aug 2018 02:51:37
Shizzee, it’s a real rumor. What’s your weird obsession with the Cavs?

13 Aug 2018 22:57:00
Uhhhh really rkenne_16? Shizzee is the worse basketball fan ever he wants the Knicks to have all defense and no offense, his trades are so ridiculous I’ve found time out of my day to make fun of him! And you’re asking why?

12 Aug 2018 16:49:03
Cavs trade George hill to Knicks for Joakim Noah,2019 1st to 4 protected

12 Aug 2018 17:10:16
Lol. Knicks fan?

12 Aug 2018 17:52:55
Lee and Noah plus top 5 protected for hill And Smith. now Knicks have lots of cap next year.

12 Aug 2018 18:23:25
Kevin Love 2 1st for Noah since you cavs fans are in clowning mood.

12 Aug 2018 18:42:37
It wil take a first to move the two years of Noah and Lee contract I say Knicks get pick 8 -11.

12 Aug 2018 18:55:26
Shizzee closing mood? It would take more than just 1 protected 1st to move Noah. Look what it took just to move Faried.

12 Aug 2018 18:56:00
I wouldn't give up a top ten pick in next years draft for George hill. His numbers were bad with the kings and they were bad with the cavs. Even to trade noah.

12 Aug 2018 19:34:47
Btec, The point of the trade is to get Noah off the books and open up cap space. It doesn’t matter if Hill is goood or not. He’s only guaranteed to make a million dollars after this season. You can buy him out for the 20million left on his contracts before the season begins and have an extra 7 million to spend this off season when you’re hoping to get 2 stars.

12 Aug 2018 19:58:01
Fully aware rkenne16, just substitute cap space in place of the name George hill since they symbolize the same thing if that works for you? It's a noah dump for Hill because of his 20 mil guaranteed for a likely top ten pick. What is it you think I'm confused about? What point am I missing? Said the circle to the triangle.

12 Aug 2018 20:48:13
If you weren’t confused about the reason for the trade, then why even comment on Hill’s ability to play? It’s irrelevant.

12 Aug 2018 20:55:44
Because a top 10 pick and noah are worth more than George hill, so if that's the case might as well give a brief reason why hill isn't enough. Who crapped in your cornflakes surly sally?

12 Aug 2018 23:26:01
The market has shown that that would be the price of doing business, if not more than that price. We just saw the Faried trade for a 1st and a 2nd and apparently the Mavs weren’t willing to do a Bazemore Mathews swap to move up from 5 to 3. Both deals are far more palatable than taking on Noah.

13 Aug 2018 04:16:16
Rkenne16 there's a difference between the nuggets projected pick and the knicks for 2019. Even the nuggets top 12 protected their pick. Which is going to be a significantly higher draft pick likely. No one trades a top ten for near nothing or only salary cap relief. A top ten lottery pick for George hill or "salary relief" is absurd. Your a cavs fan and you enjoy being ridiculous or something because this isn't rational in anyway. The Brooklyn pick you guarded like the family jewelz why would ny be any different?

13 Aug 2018 05:04:55
Btec, the difference is 2 full years of 18 million dollars kept worth of a guy you can’t let in your facilities. It’s not about the Cavs. Go look at all of my comments on Noah. I’ve responded the same to all of them. You can trade him to the Suns, Hawks, Nets, etc. Even an unprotected Knicks pick might not do it. You’re committing to a ridiculous amount of dead money in a market where no one has cap space and a ton of teams want it. It’s not hard to understand where the market is right now.

13 Aug 2018 06:12:17
It's only 16 mil the cavs are taking on after riddding hills 20 mil. At this moment that knicks pick could be a #1 and there is no way in hell a team trades a pick that golden given the projections for the knicks at this point. Even to trade noah. It may be the asking price as you claim (I think it's off) but the knicks wouldn't do it, no way.

13 Aug 2018 07:26:07
Remember when the clippers dumped Davis and have up there pick unprotected to the Cavs for cap space and Cavs got number one pick and it was Irving.

11 Aug 2018 22:59:36
Jazz get - Hill and Korver

Cavs get - Warren Burks(exp) Chandler (exp) and Chriss

Suns get - Rubio




12 Aug 2018 00:44:13
I think PHX values Warren and Chris's to highly to include them both, along with a solid vet presence in Chandler to mentor Ayton, for Rubio. Suns say NO.

12 Aug 2018 02:27:42
I like the trade but i think Warren has more value.

12 Aug 2018 04:08:38
Delusional cavs fan lmao. Why would jazz do this. Why would cavs get warren and chriss for george and korver. Smh.

12 Aug 2018 19:10:40
The jazz would never do this. Rubio was fantastic for the jazz and George hill is obviously not fantastic and Korver is over the hill, and Utah has ingles, sefololosha, crowder already to play the 3.

10 Aug 2018 18:09:20
Cle: Ntilikina+ Noah+ Porzingis

NY: K Love

Cleveland takes a draftbust another bad contract and an injured player for dumping Loves contract

10 Aug 2018 18:26:27
Ntilikina, the next Gary Peyton!? How dare you! Love is the worst player in the league! The Cavs would be lucky to have Joakim Noah’s contract. It’s possibly the best in league history.

10 Aug 2018 18:27:33
The knicks would be high as a kite to think about this.

10 Aug 2018 18:42:21
this would be a great move for the cavs bc ntilikina is no bust.

11 Aug 2018 14:24:31
Guys, it was just a joke.
I wanted to piss of shizzee, for his K Love basshing.

11 Aug 2018 15:19:18
Frank “the glove” ntilikina haha not a chance.

10 Aug 2018 09:24:42

CLE get Whiteside, Warren & Knight

Pg Sexton/Knight
Sg Hood/Korver
Sf Warren/Osman/Dekker
Pf Love/Nance/Frye
Ce Whiteside/Zizic

PHX get Dragic & T Johnson

Pg Dragic/Okobo
Sg Booker/Johnson
Sf Jackson/Bridges
Pf Ariza/Chriss/Holmes
Ce Ayton/Chandler/Bender

MIA get Thompson, Clarkson, Jr Smith (exp) & swap rights to CLE (future 1st)

Pg Richardson/Clarkson
Sg Wade/Waiters/Smith
Sf Winslow/Ellington/McGruder
Pf Johnson/Olynyk
Ce Adebayo/Thompson

10 Aug 2018 15:30:38
The winner are Cleveland Miami and Phoenix a big loser in this trade. Dragic ist not realy a PG, first shot than pasing, Johnson is a big mistake with 20 mln pro season. Suns never do that.

10 Aug 2018 15:39:55
The Cavs shouldn’t trade any future pick unless they’re getting back a good player on a rookie scale.

10 Aug 2018 17:52:51
Keep valuing the kardashian curse. Clarkson stock dropped. JR Smith is suicide of a risk. warren and whiteside are best player in that even with the pick the heat get screwed.

10 Aug 2018 08:23:32
cle: Winslow+ Adebayo+ T Johnson

Miami: K Love

C: Whiteside
PF: K Love
PG: Dragic

C: Adebayo
Pf:Nance Jr/zizic
SF: winslow
SG: Osman
Pg: Sexton

Miami stays competitive for a few more years

Cleveland get young players they can develop.

10 Aug 2018 09:11:52
Kevin Love for noah Deng or Anderson. Former over paid allstars for former over paid star. Take your choice and none of those teams will take him and his 5 yrs.

10 Aug 2018 14:04:47
That's a pretty steep asking price for love coming from the cavs.

10 Aug 2018 15:26:28
I can’t tell who’s worse: Shizzee about Love, or Supercollider about Melo.

Either way, seriously, move on, we get it.

11 Aug 2018 05:52:51
Bam and Winslow are big parts of the heat future no wayyy.

11 Aug 2018 06:00:14
lol bmiller true that.

10 Aug 2018 07:27:47
Remaining Cavs moves:

Trade 1;
NY send: THJ
Receive: Shumpert (Exp)
Gain additional cap space, and improve this years draft pick

Kings send: Shumpert
Receive: Smith, '20 2nd
Pick and a large semi expiring to use next offseason.

Cavs send: Smith, '20 2nd
Receive: THJ
Improve their youth movement and reload with some talent

Trade 2;
Heat send: Whiteside
Receive: Thompson, Ajinca (waive), '19 2nd, 2x '21 2nd
Let the era of Bam begin, add some much needed picks and clean up the cap sheet

Pels send: Ajinca, '19 & '21 2nd
Receive: Korver
Get a shooter to space the floor for Davis

Cavs send: Thompson, Korver, '21 2nd
Receive: Whiteside
Lets love move back to PF, add more over priced talent.

Resign Hood 3y 15m/y Third year TO

PG: Hill, Sexton
SG: Hood, Clarkson, Nwaba
SF: THJ, Osman, Dekker
PF: Love, Frye
C: Whiteside, Nance, Zizic

Could see the team finishing anywhere between 5-10 in the East

10 Aug 2018 21:09:30
I think Villanova or Duke could beat that team.

10 Aug 2018 00:24:12
Heat recieve-Tristan Thompson,Jordan Clarkson,Kyle krover

Cavs recieve Hassan Whiteside,James Johnson,2x seconds

10 Aug 2018 09:14:59
No matter bad u think miami wants to toss whiteside, the kardashian curse is worse.

09 Aug 2018 19:00:30
Cavs trade - George Hill

Knicks trade - Lance Thomas and Courtney Lee



09 Aug 2018 20:41:42
i don't see the benefit here for the cavs, hill is only guaranteed for 1 mil next year, while they would have to pay lee his full amount next year.

09 Aug 2018 21:41:34
I’d rather have George Hill, if I’m Cleveland. He’s essentially an expiring contract and they’re fine at sg and assuming they bring back Hood. Why take on longer term money for a player that isn’t any better than Hill and a non factor in Thomas? Not to mention that Clarkson isn’t really a pg and Sexton’s passing is a work in progress.

09 Aug 2018 23:49:03
If your cleveland you go for better talent vs better contract no big name will sign there, unless Sexton turns out to be a star. Good luck Cleveland. Lebron did right by u guys coming back and winning championship as a under dog.

Cavs get Hardaway Lee Thomas Shamet
Knicks get Hill Bayless Korkmaz
Sixers get JrSmith Kornet Baker

JR raised outside of philly in nj fill backup role

High scoring team with most 3 taken
8th seed
Sexton/ Crawford/ Shamet
Hardaway/ Lee/ Nwaba
Osman/ Korver/ Dekker
Love/ Thomas/ Nance
Thompson/ Frye/ Zizic

Tanking 60 lose team
Mudiay/ Burke/ Hill
Ntilikina/ Korkmaz/ Bayless
Knox/ Dotson/ T. Williams
Hezonja/ Vonleh/ Porzingis
Kanter/ Robinson/ Noah

Simmons/ Fultz/ McConnell
Reddick/ Smith/ Baker
JrSmith/ Covington/ Milton
Saric/ Chandler/ Muscala
Embiid/ Johnson/ Kornet.

10 Aug 2018 02:43:15
The Cavs can get free agents like Hardaway, if they’re willing to overpay them like the Knicks did. What’s the big difference between Hood and Hardaway? The Cavs don’t need another streaky wing that doesn’t play much defense and Hood will end up on a significantly better deal.

10 Aug 2018 07:09:51
@Shizzee: JR starting over Covington . really?

09 Aug 2018 18:22:54
Cavss get hardaway, Lee and Noah plus unprotected first pick 2019 Knicks.

Knicks get Chandler, Smith and hill.

Suns get Thompson plus second from Knicks and Cavs. Or the Suns can have Clarkson and korver

Cavs take on lots of salary but gain quality pick.

Knicks clear space and only cost them there pick if there confident they can sign Butler and Irving they should do this in heart beat.

Suns add depth while ayton develops. Plus two decent second round picks from lottery teams.

09 Aug 2018 20:02:30
The Knicks pick will be around 5. They have zero interest in trading it to save like 5 mill.

09 Aug 2018 20:21:17
The Suns can’t turn this down fast enough assuming they even have the cap to do it.

09 Aug 2018 20:43:08
ny will waive noah rather than lose an unprotected first (they will be bad this year) and i think they still value thj.

09 Aug 2018 20:47:48
Knicks will not give away a likely top 5 pick for this deal. They have shown they are not willing to add it to get rid of Noah, or he would already be gone.

09 Aug 2018 23:44:00
First Knicks are saving way more then 5 million. There clearing Noah Lee and hardaway to have cap for Irving and Butler. Not just Noah. Suns are trading chandler for t Thompson and two seconds don't need cap.

09 Aug 2018 23:45:19
If they waive Noah that's good but how can they clear Lee and hardaway to have cap for Irving and Butler.

10 Aug 2018 01:11:55
Triangle- by overpaid him. Nobody else values his skill/ contract.

10 Aug 2018 17:54:08
I understand that, but you all are missing the point. Knicks have already said they’re not giving up that pick to move contracts. Lee has value and can be moved for an expiring deal, and Hardaway is likely part of the future plans.

Take the Lakers as an example as to why the Knicks don’t move that pick. PG13 was bought and paid for this offseason? Nope. Claw will make his way there through trade? Nope.

Knicks should not, and all indications suggest they won’t give up future assets on the chance they land an All-Star next year.

11 Aug 2018 01:51:10
There giving up a pick to have cap to add quality players to zing, Knox, Williams and the next glove. Like the Lakers dumped Russell And mozgov got Lopez for expiring deal. The Knicks don't need picks they need cap space. Because zinger is ready to compete now not wait on developing players. So with cap they can and players will go to new York to play with Knox zingerr Williams and the next glove.

09 Aug 2018 08:26:41
Cavs Timberwolves

Cavs receive

Timberwolves receive
2021 first round protected top 10

09 Aug 2018 15:44:17
Oh the irony. the cavs pay a buttload for the downward spiral of loves career, but also take back wiggins once its been determined he is a horrible addition to a team and is paid a max.

Congrats, that would guarentee untradeable and awful players for years to come!

09 Aug 2018 15:44:43
U forgot 2019 1st add also teague jrsmith.

09 Aug 2018 17:02:47
I'm sure the championship trophy that Cleveland has that they wouldn't have without Love helps with their "overpay" of "the downward spiral of Love's career".

09 Aug 2018 17:36:59
A 3 year old trophy collecting dust is coming up with the 30 mil per season love costs for 3 years after this season? Love is un-trade-able now until that contract expires. You think deng and noahs' 18 mil is bad?

09 Aug 2018 17:57:42
Love had his best season in Cleveland last year and is an allstar. Comparing that contract to Deng or noah’s, 2 guys that have been essentially unplayable for there entire contracts, is ridiculous. That’s not even to mention that Deng and even more so Noah’s games were predictated on movement and hustle. While Love’s game is dependent on shooting, positioning, and strength. Hustle players tend to age poorly. Shooters typically have long careers.

09 Aug 2018 19:58:39
The cavs will be more than happy with love until 2022 I'm sure.

09 Aug 2018 20:55:51
Exactly what rkenne said. I'd pay an all star 30 million over a third stringer 17 million without hesitation. You can win a championship with Love as a top 3 option on a team (proven) .

Also, I understood the "pay a buttload for the downward spiral of loves career" statement as the last 3 years, not the future. If I get Kevin Love 3 years ago, and I make the finals 3 times and win one with him, I have zero regrets about that trade.

08 Aug 2018 19:20:49
What about this as a deadline deal?

The Cavs get Burks, Exum, Allen and a 1st depending on how Love is plus filler

The Jazz get Love and Korver

The Jazz add a lot of offense to team with a ton of defense and give the team the potential to get deep in the playoffs.

The Cavs get young talent and clear cap space. It's probably the best way they can go either way, but probably the only way to go if they're out of the playoffs at that point.

08 Aug 2018 19:46:59
I do like the fit of Love in Utah next to Gobert. Seems like decent value for an all star in Love. I could definitely see it happening. That would push Utah into the status of a top 3 team in the west to me (maybe even close to even with Houston) .

08 Aug 2018 19:53:41
Love costs too much and wouldn't improve their team enough to justify the expense.

09 Aug 2018 00:03:51
If salaries match who is Utah trading that would stop this trade@btec the only name I see is exum worth much that first is late and the rest is garbage I’m pretty sure they would take Love and korver.

08 Aug 2018 09:33:06
Cavs Pelicans

Cavs receive
2021 first round pick (top 10 protected)
2019 second round pick

Pelicans receive

08 Aug 2018 11:45:24
All that for Korver? Way too much. IMO.

08 Aug 2018 12:41:09
Top 20 protected maybe, not top 10.

08 Aug 2018 14:07:07
Makes no difference their pick would be 20-30.

08 Aug 2018 14:32:22
No guarantee the Pels pick is between 20-30, they may not even make the playoffs in the loaded West.

08 Aug 2018 18:21:00
i think this will be AD’s mvp season, which would prob mean they finish outside the bottom 20.but i could be wrong and its entirely possible they miss the playoffs. for korver top 20 protect is fair.

08 Aug 2018 23:18:29

These fight 8th seed


09 Aug 2018 00:16:03
Pelicans for sure should do that space the floor for a superstar.

09 Aug 2018 03:37:46
nah blazers wolves and maybe the pelicans will be fighting.

10 Aug 2018 21:05:45
Its a big overpay. Pass.

14 Aug 2018 01:57:57
First round draft pick for an over 30 limited by?

05 Aug 2018 16:37:33
Deadline deal if k love balls out

Celtics recieve-Kevin love

Cavs recieve-Jaylen Brown,Marcus Morris

05 Aug 2018 17:22:54
Is that a joke?
Maybe Morris for Brown even up, but there's no way on god's green Earth that the Celtics move Brown for Love -- or for anyone else on the Cleveland roster.

05 Aug 2018 17:54:38
How many games has jaylen brown played in?

05 Aug 2018 17:58:54
Allstar games*.

05 Aug 2018 19:03:33
I don't care about playoff experience. Unless its love for R. Anderon Noah or Deng. He has no value with 5 yrs on contract and has mental issues. Name another player who suffers from depression signed long term. Exactly none.

05 Aug 2018 19:49:25
man kevin love with half a brain is still better than jaylen brown right now, think jaylen brown is a good player, but klove dominates him in most statstical categories and the 4 is the position Cs need help with, to contend.

05 Aug 2018 20:33:35
DeMar DeRozan is signned for another 3 years, through 2021. He inspired KLove to speak publicly about his depression. Two brave people and excellent teammates.

05 Aug 2018 21:12:07
Both minny and cavs kevin love missed extended time due to mental issues. DeRozan missed any time. Bad comparison. I compare love to beasley.

05 Aug 2018 21:43:47
Seems like you really care about Mental Health.

05 Aug 2018 21:46:13
Shizzee:I was just answering your question of " name another player who suffers from depression signed long term? ". Direct quote. So I gave you DeRozan. Nothing about comparing the two situations. Thought that was straight forward.

05 Aug 2018 23:49:26
Whoever thinks Brown is not as good as Love is nuts. This coming season will be Browns 3rd. He was a dominant player last season. Love is a very good player, but he cannot carry a team. All those rebounds in Minny, and all he was, was an all star. He wasn't winning anything, until he went to Cleveland to play with James and Irving.
Brown is so much more than Love. He is young, very athletic and can defend along with being a dominant player who is only going to get better and better. They are two very different players, to compare then is wrong. But there is no way that Love is worth Jaylen Brown. now, or ever.

05 Aug 2018 23:49:54
Love missed 2 halfs this year and to my knowledge, he didn’t say he missed any other time due to mental health. How is that an extended period of time? Stick to trying to figure out how to trade the Knicks for a new team.

06 Aug 2018 02:48:34
The hate of shizzee to Love is starting to sound like how Supercollider hate Carmelo. C'mon, Who has the mental issue?

06 Aug 2018 12:44:23
Brown was dominant JoeB? I guess I missed his performance at the All-Star g. oh wait, he wasn’t there. Wonder why, 14.5 and 5 don’t get you invited?

Very good young prospect, yes. Dominant, no. Better than Love now, no. Better than Love in a couple of years, likely.

Boston has a much bigger need for a front court player than a wing, and Love makes them a better team today than Brown does.

06 Aug 2018 14:23:29
I mean, I guarantee there are many, many more players who suffer from depression to some level. You just don't hear about it because they either don't realize it themselves, or they're not ready to talk about it. If you're going to talk about Love's head being an issue, talk about the concussions he's had. Add him to Horford on the Celtics, and you're one head bump away from losing your starting frontcourt.

Comparing Love to Brown is a bit of an apples and oranges situation. Is Love the kind of guy who will carry a team for a season. I don't think so. He's a proven player, and I think he's gotten a lot of blame that he shouldn't have in Cleveland. But I see a lot of potential in Brown. like Leonard potential. It might wind up being that he only becomes a very good third guy type player, but he's got that top dog potential, which leaves me to want to keep him instead. His floor, in my eyes, is a Kevin Love level star, with a superstar ceiling.

06 Aug 2018 17:10:10
First, #'s don't add up.

Second, C's can't afford KL's contract if they plan on maxing Kyrie.

Third, Depending on what Kyrie does after this coming season will determine Browns future with Boston.

Fourth, Horford is a big part of C's. I can see him being extended.

07 Aug 2018 00:24:01
Triangle, who cares about All-Star teams? Brown was as dominant as any 2nd year player as there was in the league last season at 21 or 22?
He is only going to get better and better. Love mya only have a few good years left. Brown is only beginning.

07 Aug 2018 14:01:44
Love is cavs savior.

Read and see if want him for 5 more years. Rkenne, Love was such a non factor, that last 2 yrs in row missed 20 games you say only game 2 games. In fact in 10 yrs he only 70 games 5 times. When he physically gets injuried he mentally gets depressed. Read it.

07 Aug 2018 14:05:57
It's always fun to see a Cavs-Celts trade idea.

07 Aug 2018 14:08:48
The K Love Boat sailed Years ago Jaylen Brown is great for the Boston system unless AD or KAT becomes available don’t think Boston will trade anyone . Boston are willing to pay luxury tax they could also stretch Horford , trade Morris, trade Yabusele, still got a load of draft picks . Kyrie is the key for Boston’s roster what he decides to do will give Boston a idea going forward.

05 Aug 2018 12:05:17
Trade #1

Cleveland trades: Collin Sexton, J. R. Smith and Tristan Thompson

Orlando trades: Evan Fournier, Nikola Vucevic and '19 top 5 protected first round draft pick

Why for Cleveland? They acquire a couple of established players that fit into the roster plus a first round draft pick.

Why for Orlando? This is all about getting a very good prospect that could be their future at point guard.

I realize that frontcourt defense could be an issue, but I don't think Vucevic is a downgrade in that regard over Thompson.

Trade #2

Cleveland trades: George Hill

Miami trades: Goran Dragic

Why for Cleveland? This is about upgrading their point guard position and Dragic is a major upgrade over Hill.

Why for Miami? They shed a year off Dragic's contract in favor of Hill, who only has 1 million guaranteed for '19 - '20.

PG: Goran Dragic | Jordan Clarkson
SG: Evan Fournier
SF: Cedi Osman
PF: Kevin Love | Larry Nance
C: Nikola Vucevic | Ante Zizic
+ '19 first round draft pick from the Magic.

05 Aug 2018 14:35:10
Thompson and Smith have negative contacts. You don't get assets and a 1st for negative contracts and a 8th pick.

05 Aug 2018 15:28:17
Collin Sexton looks like he could be a future superstar.

05 Aug 2018 16:08:01
Thompson is a negative contract for sure. Smith’s contract fairly close to an expiring and Fournier’s contract is a lot worse than Smith’s given the length and not much better than than Tristan’s. I don’t think either team would be overly excited with the Cavs. They probably like Sexton more than most and the Magic wouldn’t want to give up a pick in a Vucevic deal. I don’t see it for either team.

05 Aug 2018 19:16:38
Fournier contact may be longer, but he's younger, a better defender, and would be a contributor on any team. Add that they are taking Thompson for a good exciting contract in vouch. Plus yes the magic need a PG. But they had an opportunity to draft Sexton if they thought he was the one. Not good for the magic at all.

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