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17 Oct 2018 01:34:53
Cavs - Mavs - Suns

Cavs get:
19 Bucks 1st (Via Suns) OR 21 Heats Pick

Mavs get:

Suns get:

Cavs receive cap relief with all expiring deals except Powell. Start rebuild

Mavs get pieces that they can make a strong run in playoffs for next 2 years.

Suns get two strong pgs. One young and one vet for a bad contract and a pick

16 Oct 2018 02:05:03
3 team deal

Memphis- Cleveland - Phoenix

Cavs get:
Chandler Warren

Memphis get:
JR Smith

Phoenix get:

Cavs free up cap early and free up minutes for Sexton while getting young forward in Warren

Memphis get shooting for a playoff run

Phoenix get a veteran pg that they where looking for while getting young forward in return in Osman

16 Oct 2018 05:14:08
So the Grizzlies move off one of the worst deals in the league for free?

Hill, Korver and Smith have a combine 7 million in guaranteed money after this year and Cedi looks like he could become a starting caliber player. Warren is the better prospect, but not by a ton. This is awful for the Cavs.

16 Oct 2018 06:08:22
Even if parsons has a 15, 5 and 5 season he's overpaid. Good for the grizzlies but overpaid and bad for the cavs here.

14 Oct 2018 18:19:46

Trade Kyle krover to philly for 2018 bulls 2nd,2019 sixers 2nd,Jerryd bayeless(buyout)

Give John Holland 3yr partial guaranteed deal

Sign Bonzie Colson 2 way

Waive jr smith

Sign Jakarr sampson

11 Oct 2018 14:51:47
Minnesota gets Smith, Korver, Chandler, and Philly's 2019 1st

The Cavs get Bayless(exp) and 2 Philly 2nds

The 76ers get Butler

07 Oct 2018 12:43:52
Cavs get Hardaway Waiters Mudiay Wilson
Bucks get Whiteside Smith Dekker
Knicks get Hill
Heat get Henson Snell Delly Bucks 1st

Replace Lebron's Scoring, get rid Smith as a distraction


Add a scoring sg and shotblocker center to make them best team in EC central and become darkhorse to win the east.


Cut future payroll, get better chararacter guys. Become faster


Dump Hill for 1.5 mil buyout after season.


07 Oct 2018 13:15:08
Why would the Cavs give up guys that have little guaranteed money next year for 2 bad contracts and why would the Bucks give up a 1st for Whiteside?

07 Oct 2018 14:35:23
Hardaway and Waiters is better than Hill and Jr Smith. I don't think you want to deal with JR Smith on a below .500 team. With Lebron gone Cavs should look to add better talent especially younger scorers any which way they can. No big name free agents will go there now that Lebron is gone. Staying competitive to Love happy and keeping their is important or else why would cavs extend him.

You mean to tell me bucks get better talent better contracts in whiteside Smith over Henson Delly and Snell, you don't think that worth a 1st that will be worth having 50 + win team.

07 Oct 2018 14:49:43
I don't think the Bucks would accept that offer. Two (2) "head cases" And a "non-defender" for Henson, Dellevedova, Snell AND a 1st rd pick?, I say good luck to any one trading for Whiteside, or Smith. Like Henson, Dellevedova, and Snell ALL Overpaid! But with Very bad attitudes!

07 Oct 2018 14:53:31
They can buy Smith out, if they’re concerned with him being around. They could use the contracts to try to get picks. They’ll need money, if they want to keep Nance or Hood. They can use cap space to get picks. Just because you can’t attract big name free agents doesn’t mean that you throw money away on bad contracts. If Hardaway is so great, why do you want the Knicks to trade him for expirings?

As for the Bucks, they get more talent back, but Whiteside could actively make the Bucks worse. Miami wants rid of him and no one else has bit. Why would someone all of a sudden be willing to give up a pick for him?

07 Oct 2018 15:24:04
Henson snell delly are worse than talent than whiteside Smith. To give up late is worth it, to giannis they are trying get better. Whiteside next to Giannis will get motivated. Smith will good on quality bucks team.

Smith great for very good. Smith horrible for .500 or below team. Hardaway is not allstar player. But he is better than Jr Smith for .500 team. Cavs plenty have plenty of money for hood and Nance next yr. Neither are worth more 15 mil per season. Neither can be scorer Hardaway and Waiters are.

07 Oct 2018 15:24:34
They won't buyout smith until next yr.

07 Oct 2018 15:25:10
Nobody giving picks for Smith. Maybe Hill.

07 Oct 2018 15:30:59
Unlike the cavs with Lebron gone NY can attract big name free agents especially if they clear cap for 2 of them. Knicks will have cleared 55 mil in cap space.

07 Oct 2018 15:38:36
Shizzee NY hasn't signed a good free agent in decades.

07 Oct 2018 16:14:17
Cavs aren't going to spend their money on hardaway and waiters during the rebuild. Unless its using cap to get a pick.

07 Oct 2018 16:25:09
This actually one the better proposals you do for Knicks to clear. Cavs will have trouble signing a player like Hardaway or even waiters. if hood walks who will the cavs sign if they buy out Smith and hill next year who would they sign better then hardaway ava waiters. Unless they trade for a different overpaid player with Smith and hill to play with love who they got for the next 5 years. Even though hardaway not enormously over paid. Not the best but cavs and bucks get better and I think Miami only does if they can't get butler.

07 Oct 2018 16:36:27
So Cleveland is the only team in the league that can’t over pay midlevel players to attract them? If the Cavs are willing to throw a bad contract at a guy like Waiters or Hardaway, they can get those type of free agents. We, be seen small market teams get those kind of free agents every year.

08 Oct 2018 03:23:12
What player can the Cavs sign next year for 18 mil better then hardaway. I believe Hardaway better then Thompson and Thompson get 18 mil a year. Cavs aren't tryna get picks to rebuild they want to compete now or least compete for play offs with love. Just say hood walks who would the cavs sign better then hardaway. This coming from someone live 45 minutes from Cleveland. Cavs.

08 Oct 2018 11:29:10
Aminu, Morris, Ariza, Reddick, Mirotic, Beverly, Thad Young, T Evans, Dinwiddie, Randle, Teague, Valanciunas, Oubre, Winslow, Brogdon, Rozier, and Barnes.

08 Oct 2018 16:18:25
I'm only taking Barnes, Winslow or Beverly over hardaway but done those are restricted free agents.

04 Oct 2018 03:51:18
Cavs Trade Rodney Hood Tristan Thompson

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler

Heat Trade Hassan Whiteside Justise Winslow 2019 first round pick

Cavs get Justise Winslow Hassan Whiteside

Heat get Tristan Thompson Jimmy Butler

Wolves get George Hill Rodney Hood 2019 first round pick (MIAMI)

04 Oct 2018 05:55:50
Cavs Also Trade George Hill.

04 Oct 2018 08:11:20
Heat would have to give Cleveland another player.

04 Oct 2018 17:13:25
Cavs get Tyler Johnson Hassan Whiteside Justise Winslow.

04 Oct 2018 21:09:29
Now your salaries are correct.

03 Oct 2018 03:04:02
Milspo, let's try this

Bucks get Hardaway Noah
Knicks get Henson Randolph Koufos Shumpert (cavs) via bucks
Heat get Kanter Snell Delly
Kings get Whiteside Waiters Thomas

Kings can compete for 8th seed


Knicks clear all bad contracts


Bucks add another scorer/shooter to spread offense.


Heat save future money. Get a center who gives more effort.


03 Oct 2018 10:01:02
This is bad for the Kings. They aren't going to give away all their expirings for Whiteside. They will need young players or picks to do it.

03 Oct 2018 15:30:59
Knicks 2020 1st. Worth it.

04 Oct 2018 08:16:36
Knicks 2019 unprotected and Knicks 2021 unprotected to bucks.

04 Oct 2018 12:21:09
II lmao cav fans.

05 Oct 2018 04:04:45
Nobody wants whiteside. Miami overpaid a lazy diva.

01 Oct 2018 18:26:06
Bucks get THJ, Noah, 2019 2nd (via Cleveland)
NYK get Snell, Henson, Dellavedova

Bucks upgrade with Bud player THJ over cheaper 7mil/y Snell. Noah will hate Milwaukee, so he will consider a reasonable buyout. The Bucks open two places and get a 2nd.


This doesn't affect NYK ability to sign a max player in 2019. Ntilkina, Dellavedova, Lee, Knox, Snell, Henson, Robinson will cost 55 mil, which means they will have 53 mil availabe for Porzignis, their 1st and a max.

This is a nice 10 man rotation without having to stretch Noah or lose a 1st. With Henson, Delly, Lee off the books in 2020, they will be able to take one more max player then.

01 Oct 2018 19:45:35
Knicks moving hardaway for expiring only not bucks crap. Noah will stretched in 2 weeks.

02 Oct 2018 00:02:36
I believe The Bucks would pass, As would the Knicks.

02 Oct 2018 01:35:14
Agreed on moving THJ for expiring, but it ain’t going to be easy, especially if they attempt to attach Noah.

02 Oct 2018 14:02:26
Nobody is going to take THJ or Noah for an expiring with NYK giving a 1st. I think this is ideal for the Knicks, because they can end up like this.

Ntilkina/ 2019 1st
Max player/ Snell
Knox/ 2020 1st
Max player/ Robinson

Having THJ and stretched Noah will kill their chances to sign one max player in 2020.

02 Oct 2018 16:02:25
Yeah, no one is taking Hardaway's contract for expiring deals. He's owed 54 million over the next 3 years (which turns into 62 million with his 15% trade kicker) . Taking guys with only two years left is the best case scenario for dumping Hardaway without giving up a major asset.

03 Oct 2018 03:00:16
If knox keeps it up and Robinson learns really fast THJ in the catch and shoot is a good scorer. He didn't get a lot of those opportunites last season and he was injured a bit. Knicks have nothing to lose by playing him this season and upping his value if possible. Otherwise, hardaway is going to cost a 1st to trade as of now. Trier looks pretty good too, I'd like to trade hardaway if I was the knicks.

28 Sep 2018 20:42:56
Cavs Wolves Suns

Cavs receive

Wolves receive
2021 first from Cavs
2021 Second from Cavs
2019 second from Suns

Suns receive

29 Sep 2018 04:02:29
Cavs fan still over there players even after post lebron. Accept your fate, no more.

28 Sep 2018 20:01:41
3 Teams Trade NOP/CAVS/MIN
Pelicans Trade Jrue Holiday Solomon Hill

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler Gorgiu Dieng

Cleveland Trade Tristan Thompson Kyle Korver

Cavs get Gorgui Dieng Solomon Hill 2019 first round pick (NOP)

Pelicans get Jimmy Butler Kyle Korver

Wolves get Jrue Holiday Tristan Thompson

28 Sep 2018 20:21:21
Wow this is a trade full of bad contracts. CAVS have a ton of bad contracts. Why would they want to pick up two more. Their best bet is to let them play out the next two years and then move forward. Sorry Cavs fans, but it will be ugly for the next two seasons.

28 Sep 2018 04:50:53
3 way trade Cavs Sacramento Wolves

Cavs receive

Wolves receive
Cavs 2021 first round pick

Sacramento receives

Cavs get Butler and big men depth
Wolves get the package they want. Cap relief, young assest, vets to help now and a draft pick
Sacramento receives two good players for two expandable players. Could trade Teague to Phx or keep him and trade Clarkson if they want to develop Fox with Teague as a mentor.

28 Sep 2018 15:12:31
Define "young assets". Just because they're young doesn't mean they're an asset.

28 Sep 2018 20:03:36
Not enough for Butler. Wolves hang up quickly.

26 Sep 2018 21:07:53
Cavs - Suns - Timberwolves

Cavs gets:

Suns gets:

Timberwolves gets:
2021 1st rd pick Cavs (Top 7 protected)

24 Sep 2018 21:10:38

Cavs get Kyrie Irving Jimmy Butler

Wolves get Collin Sexton Marcus Morris Tristan Thompson

Boston get Jeff Teague Kyle Korver Rodney Hood Gorgui Dieng 2021 first round pick(CAVS) lottery protected Top 5

Fair Trades what's y'all think?

24 Sep 2018 21:34:44
Boston gets screwed, that's what I think. Lol.

24 Sep 2018 21:54:15
First of all Boston can't take that much money from salaries, and second they would never do this deal.

24 Sep 2018 22:31:47
Well duh Boston robbed every others teams.

24 Sep 2018 23:12:07
No chance Boston is competing now only Room for KD or AD.

25 Sep 2018 00:18:52
Easy there smooth, that one was pretty rough.

25 Sep 2018 02:33:59
Horrible deal for Boston. No way they do this. Irving back to Cavs. Seriously.

25 Sep 2018 12:42:43
I think Boston is hoping to sign Jamal Crawford instead of trading. But you never know until the TD comes rolling along.

25 Sep 2018 15:39:19
Fair Trade? Nope But that's never stopped you from proposing lopsided trades anyway.

24 Sep 2018 13:32:18
Cavs Trade Jordan Clarkson Kyle Korver Tristan Thompson Cedi Osman 2021 first round pick 2019 second round pick

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler Gorgui Dieng Tyus Jones

Second Trade George Hill Collin Sexton to Boston

Boston Trade Kyrie Irving to Cavs

24 Sep 2018 15:42:00
The wolves aren't trading Dieng to take back Thompson. If the cavs want to trade for butler, they will have to trade Sexton. which they wont. don't see it happening.

24 Sep 2018 20:34:22
Irving to Cavs. Are you serious?

23 Sep 2018 22:41:42
Cavs Minnesota

Cavs receive

Minnesota receives
2021 Cavs first round pick

24 Sep 2018 01:07:08
Why does Minnesota do this?

24 Sep 2018 03:56:50
Isn't really all bad. They get 3 good shooters which they desperately need and replace Dieng with a cheaper back up big in Nance who is also better. Hill and Korver are both exp contracts. However they still need perimeter defense at the 2 and 3.

15 Sep 2018 15:52:16

CLE get Mills & TOR 1st from SAS

SAS get Vucevic

ORL get G.Hill

I believe Spurs could do this because they need depth at center position. ORL could prefer Hill over Mills but if not CLE could be removed from the deal.

15 Sep 2018 16:06:13
No chance Hill is worth a player and pick.

15 Sep 2018 16:24:58
Shiller, doe Mills have any value at all? I don’t think many teams would want 3 years of a back up pg for 10 million a year.

15 Sep 2018 21:50:55
Rkeene- so sputlrs eat it. Just because your team needs an upgrade doesn't mean it will or has to happen.

15 Sep 2018 23:07:16
While Mills' salary is a bit too much, he is a top 5 backup PG. He can play both guard positions, has started before with mixed results, is durable, a great shooter, and a great teammate.

Mills is similar to Hill, but is more durable. I don't think he would be an upgrade for Cavs, but they would do the deal because of the Toronto pick.

Spurs need an upgrade at Center. Spurs have two good young guys who could step up and take Mills' minutes without much loss.

Orlando has been trying to find a way to get rid of Vucevic for years. I don't know why, but Hill would be a good trade for them.

15 Sep 2018 23:53:42
Mills is a top 5 backup PG. He can start if needed, he has done it before. Mills is an excellent shooter and sneaky good defender. He is a veteran who can play both guard positions, and is a great teammate. His salary is too high for a team with a good/ great PG. But on a team with an average or below PG, he is worth the price.

16 Sep 2018 00:33:44
I’m not saying it will happen or should, but it’s not ridiculous to think that the Spurs would give up a first to get rid of Mills’s deal and get a solid player. If anyone is getting a the short end of the stick, it’s Orlando.

07 Sep 2018 08:13:10

NOLA get DeAndre Ayton, TJ Warren, Dragan Bender & 2019 1st round pick

Pg Payton/Clark
Sg Holiday/Moore
Sf Warren/Hill
Pf Randle/Mirotic/Diallo
Ce Ayton/Bender/Okafor

PHX get Anthony Davis & Alexis Ajinca
- send Ryan Anderson & 2021 1st round pick and 2019 2nd rd pick to Cavs for Hill

Pg Hill/Okobo
Sg Booker/Melton/Daniels
Sf Ariza/Jackson/Bridges
Pf Davis/Arthur
Ce Chandler/Holmes/Ajinca

07 Sep 2018 09:21:29
Please, stop hahaha

07 Sep 2018 19:32:57
Sure! Said no one EVER.

07 Sep 2018 04:11:17
Cavs Trade George Hill to Magic

Magic Trade Nikola Vucevic Johnathan Issac to Cavs

Second Trade

Suns Trade Tyson Chandler to Magic

Magic Trade Timofey Mozgov to Suns

Cavs Trade Tristan Thompson to Miami

Miami Trade James Johnson to Cavs

Magic sign Rodney Hood 2 year 20 million

07 Sep 2018 04:43:23
What is going on here?

07 Sep 2018 12:20:05
A whole lot of nothing. He just posts randomness. I do like though that the second trade consists of two wholly independent trades. Why is that heat Cavs trade even included?

07 Sep 2018 14:28:12
That is funny notdrainer, why are the Magic and Suns involved in that deal?

Sure, why wouldn’t you get Issac for Hill? Oh wait, is it that Issac is a quality prospect and Hill has no more value than Vucevic.

05 Sep 2018 21:31:53
Suns get George hill

Cavs get Turner

Portland get Chandler

05 Sep 2018 23:10:05
Seems like Cleveland would prefer Chandler's contract over Turner.

I think it makes Portland worse, but they take it in a heartbeat to be away from a bad contract a year earlier.

Make a lot of sense for Phoenix. Get a stopgap PG and make room for their current bigs.

06 Sep 2018 01:10:33
Why would the Cavs take on Turner’s contract for free?

06 Sep 2018 02:06:16
Cavs hard no.

06 Sep 2018 03:49:15
Same reason they over paid to keep love instead of trading him because no one else good as Turner would sign with the Cavs right about now and they have no user for hill. Playin in East it will be easier for Turner. But II Portland owes a first unprotected there going to be tenth seed or higher anyway so protection don't matter not sure when there next pick is open.

06 Sep 2018 04:37:38
9955, if the Cavs are willing to grossly overpay a guy like Turner, they could pull those kind of free agents. Anyone could. He’s not even a starting caliber player and he’s making 18 Million.

06 Sep 2018 06:31:04
The Cavs have no cap to sign anyone better then Turner. They need all the talent they can gett got Portland just getting out of tax.

06 Sep 2018 12:18:36
Uh, they could re-sign Hood, who while he doesn’t play a similar game to Turner would be as much or more valuable if he plays like he did in Utah.

I like Turner, but I am having a hard time understanding why you think the Cavs need to overpay to get him when i’m not sure he’s better than Hill, who also has the added bonus of being on an expiring deal.

06 Sep 2018 17:32:16
Suns are reported as uninterested in Hill is what I read today.

06 Sep 2018 17:45:33
Yeah your right Cavs get a pick from Portland.

04 Sep 2018 05:02:23
If its clear the Detroit front court isn't working:

Magic send: Mozgov, '19 top 8 protected - then top 12 - then converts to 3 2nds)
Receive: Jackson

Kings send: McLemore
Receive: Mozgov, '21 1st (Cavs)

Cavs send: Hill, Korver, Nance, '21 1st
Receive: Griffin

Detroit send: Griffin, Jackson
Receive: Hill, Korver, McLemore, Nance, '19 1st (Magic)

04 Sep 2018 05:11:08
Magic say no.

05 Sep 2018 05:27:25
Lol they all say no obviously . Thought this Cleveland packages of junk for solid players was guna stop now .

No offence but

None have very much value adding in the close to 30 mill for the 3 of hill Korver and nance brings that value a lot lower .

Those players like hill and Korver u need to look towards contenders wanting veteran help, shooting in Korver a case. Not the Pistons after u remove their starting pg and pf.

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