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16 Aug 2018 22:17:56
4 team Whiteside trade:

Bucks send: Snell
Receive: Jr Smith
Smith is an upgrade in the short term, and can be sold as a large expiring or waived to create additional cap space next offseason.

Heat send: Whiteside
Receive: TT, Ajinca (waive), '19 & 2x '21 2nds
Get a cheaper backup C who will be less of a headache, also get some 2nds to restock their tradable assets. This move is all about ushering in the era of Bam.

Pels send: Ajinca, '19 & '21 2nds
Receive: Korver
Add some much needed shooting and dump an unused C.

Cavs send: TT, Korver, Smith, '21 2nd
Receive: Whiteside, Snell
Upgrade a C and is a good fit next to Love. Also get a younger prospect to groom into their next 3&D wing

16 Aug 2018 19:31:23

Knicks get Maker, Ajinca, Okafor, NOP 2019 2nd
Pelicans get Snell, Zeller
Bucks get Noah, NY 2019 1st

NYK go all in for Irving and Butler. They will have to find a buyer for Lee to achieve that. Their seconds will help.

NOP are looking for a wing. They get Snell and a needed backup solid center with minimum cost.

MIL gets a lottery pick for eating Noah without having to pay the tax or loose much depth. Brown, DDV, Conny can share Snell's minutes, while they have Wood for third center.

16 Aug 2018 19:57:11
Pelicans might do this but not with the picks. For zeller and snell? Knicks are going to hold that pick so tight it may turn into a diamond. It's an important piece to their rebuild. If Dolan doesn't screw it up somehow.

16 Aug 2018 20:00:36
Wood is not signed by bucks but I don't think the bucks would have to include maker maybe a pick.

16 Aug 2018 20:03:58
My mistake he just signed I see.

16 Aug 2018 20:20:26
@btec Pelicans fill their needs with Snell and Zeller at the cost of Ajinca and Okafor who don't even play. It's only fair to give up a 2nd for that. I know it was not the wisest thing to do, but Bucks gave a 2nd to Nets just for Zeller.

16 Aug 2018 22:09:35
Pelicans need a SF/ PF or PG or SF. Wilson Chandler would be a good fit for the pelicans. Snell is more 2 than 3 and doesn't ever shoot the ball. Why trade expiring contracts, picks and take on salary for guys you don't really need? Snell would be hard to move without including a 1st.

16 Aug 2018 18:09:37
Atl get Kanter Lee Burke Noah Kornet
Knicks get Bazemore Lin Dedmon Plumlee

Talent wise atl is favorite. Kanter Lee have more to offer than Bazemore and Any other other player. Burke could challenge young as their starter. Lin is a shell of his linsanity yr. Plumlee and Noah despite 7 mil more in money are even talent wise at this point in their career.

Money wise they are both even. Both have to pay about 32 mil to 2 players in the 2019-20 season. Lee Noah equal talent wise Bazemore Plumlee

Ny does it bc both plumlee and bazemore are easier to trade than Noah which ny master plan is clear as much cap space as possible.


Ny now can now trade hardaway for Simmons Ajinca & Bazemore for Shumpert. You will stretch provision plumlee final yr to finalize NY master plan or maybe Plumlee Ajince for Asik Felicio at deadline But what ever you do is force Plumlee 28-30 min jack up his stats and make him more attractive.


16 Aug 2018 18:49:50
Bazemore is better than Lee, Linn is better than Kornet and Burke, Plumlee is better than Noah, and Dedmond is better than Kanter. How is the talent better coming back to Atlanta? This is awful for Atlanta.

Also, why would Sacremento trade an expiring for a veteran on a big contract?

16 Aug 2018 18:56:45
Hill not simmons lmao.

16 Aug 2018 23:55:23
Hezonja is the sg? Dude. Do you watch the sport? He’s a 3/ 4. Stop putting big men as the shooting guard.

16 Aug 2018 23:18:18
An with that trade the knicks are the biggest contenders to the warriors could you imagine the defense? Wow golden state wouldn’t know what to do.

17 Aug 2018 02:20:51
Ny is tanking minutemaid, letsgoknicks knicks playing big.
Rkenne noah better than love lmoa.

17 Aug 2018 05:41:24
Shizzee the funny this is you think I’m joking. The only that is even arguable is Kanter and Dedmond and i’d take Dedmond because he can actually stay on the court in the playoffs. Kanter is to bad on defense.

15 Aug 2018 10:49:57
bucks: Butler+ Irving

Minny: Middleton+ Brogdon

Boston: Bledsoe+ Maker+ 2 future first round picks Bucks+ 1rnd pick Minny

15 Aug 2018 11:11:21
Obviously you hate the Celtics. Bledsoe, sucks. Proved that in the playoffs. That return is ridiculous.
The last thing the Celtics need to make a run at a title is more draft picks.

15 Aug 2018 12:39:41
Why would Minnesota give up a 1st to get inferior players, one who has the same contract situation as Butler?

15 Aug 2018 14:20:19
@ Joe, three first round picks isn't a bad return for an expiring flight risk.

15 Aug 2018 14:59:16
Xxx, there is no proof that he is leaving, buT that aside, why would the Celtics scuttle their chances at going to the finals by trading one of their top 1-3 players?
Answer: They wouldn't. They will go for a title. If he walks at the end of the year, he walks.
Ainge is not afraid to lose a FA. I think he believes he can resign him, regardless of the reports that have him going somewhere else.

This year is title or bust.

15 Aug 2018 15:03:16
Xxx, to answeryour question, no it's not a bad return for most teams. But, it would not be a good deal for a team with championship aspirations.
Do you think the Warriors would trade him in a similar situation?
Would the Lakers? The Rockets?
Absolutely not. Can't understand why people would think the Celtics would. SMH.

15 Aug 2018 15:23:17
Agree with JoeB, with LBJ out of the East, and Boston a leading contender to get to the finals, this trade doesn’t make sense for them today.

As for the Minny return carl2006, not sure how you see Middleton and Brogdon as a garbage return for Butler, whether he was expiring or not. Middleton put up 20/ 5/ 4 last year, and would give Minny something they desperately need, a 3PT marksman. Brogdon’s 13/ 3/ 3 on efficient shooting numbers is also a really nice asset.

15 Aug 2018 17:08:51
Triagnle. I never said they were garbage. They are inferior to Butler, so both of them might get Butler, but Minnesota is also giving up a 1st, which tips the scale as a bad trade for Minnesota.

15 Aug 2018 21:05:04
I think Ainge could do this if he feels Irving is gone and Rozier keeps playing good.

This trade gives them an extra big man, Maker could still bevome a descent player.
This trade gives Boston the flexibility to get another star and stay competitive for the Title.

15 Aug 2018 21:46:01
You guys are crazy if you think Ainge will trade Irving. If he were inclined to do it, it would've been done long ago.
It ain't happening.
Rozier is not now, or will ever be as good as Irving.
I don't care who disagrees with me.

15 Aug 2018 23:08:18
Ok so it’s a bust season @joe! Nobody is beating the warriors this year it sucks to say cause it kinda makes watching basketball not fun but when Demarcus comes back at even 50% himself they’re unstoppable! Boston has a great team but nothing like this garbage gsw have made.

16 Aug 2018 01:29:15
You could be right, but the Warriors looked pretty vulnerable against the Rockets. The Cavs were awful, too.
But, we will all find out next June.

16 Aug 2018 23:23:58
The Cavs got swept bro so ya they looked horrible maybe Boston wins 2 games but still not beating the warriors, like I said it sucks we already know the champions of 2019 (I hope I’m wrong) but almost certain I’m not.

15 Aug 2018 06:40:44
Trade after september where noah is than owed 26 mil

Hawks get Kanter Randolph
Kings get Bazemore Noah Mavs 1st Cash
Knicks get Plumlee Shumpert Koufos

Hawks clear 35 mil all non rookie salary beyond 2018 for their 3rd lowest 2019 1st.


Kings get starting sg for 2 yrs until Hield is ready. In addition they get 2 mil from ny and 5 mil from atl to pay noah remaining salary remaining 18-19 yr of salary. Noah is 1st big off the bench which they showcase for 30 games before trading his 19 mil expiring contract for Gorgui Dieng.


Knicks get rid noah at cost of Kanter and cash. Still have Plumlee to showcase him 30 games as a starter 14ppg 10rpg 2 bpg for should impress someone in his final 12 mil to a team who needs a center next yr.
Other moves Hardaway for Mathews Simmons for Lee.


15 Aug 2018 15:59:10
So unbelievable.

15 Aug 2018 16:54:32
Unbelievable vs what, deng ball kuzma Ingram for Davis. LMAO

Lets break it down:
Shumpert for bazemore cash is fair
Plumlee mavs 1st for Kanter is fair
Noah cash mavs 1st for Randolph Koufos is fair.

So how is my trade idea unbelievable.

15 Aug 2018 19:15:36
I can’t see Atlanta giving up a 1st or the Kings wanting Bazemore. The value isn’t terrible, but i’m Just not sure that it makes sense with Atlanta and Sac’s directions.

15 Aug 2018 20:35:44
Looks like the Kings take on a ton of bad money.

15 Aug 2018 22:11:15
I agree 16.

My trade take place next year when Deng and Davis will be expiring. I said ball and Ingram plus three 1st. Like I said that's more then what bulls got for Butler, wolves for love, thunder for harden spurs for Leonard, clippers for Paul and Griffin and magic for Howard plus pelicans for Paul.

13 Aug 2018 17:26:12

Houston gets Snell
Lakers get Henson, Dellavedova
Bucks get Anderson, Deng, HOU 1st 2019, LAL 1st 2019

Why Rockets? They get a 3 and D wing needed for their rotation. They also save 10 mil, which is valuable as they are deep in the tax now.

Why Lakers? They get two players that can contribute with Deng's money at the cost of a first. They still keep space to sign a max player like Kawhi and avoid streching Deng, which won't give them either way a second max spot.

Bucks get two late 1sts from their three bad contracts. They don't take more money back considering Snell's third year. Should they resign Middleton and Brogdon next year they won't have money for FA, so these picks will be really usefull to them.

13 Aug 2018 21:07:40
I believe the Bucks would pass.

13 Aug 2018 21:32:17
Milwaukee is a better team in the short term and long term not doing this trade. Picks that late are a gamble and thejr defense would be really bad.

13 Aug 2018 21:55:15
I’d just keep snell and Henson. Atleast they’re both in the rotation. There’s no real guarantee those picks are even that and that’s so much bad salary to take on.

13 Aug 2018 22:22:11
Ya agree finally with torque the bucks pass for horrible contracts and really late 1sts Deng and Anderson’s contracts are just dumb!

14 Aug 2018 10:38:29
Bucks will be like this after that

Bledsoe/ Brogdon/ Duval
Brown/ DDV/ Morris
Middleton/ Connaughton/ Deng
Giannis/ Anderson/ Wilson
Lopez/ Ilyasova/ Maker

They remain deep, but they need Brown and DDV to step up. If they resign Middleton and Brogdon and keep Bledsoe and Lopez for one more year they will be at the tax either way. With that trade they will have picks 20,22,28 which will be really helpful for a team with no money to spend.

14 Aug 2018 14:34:43
@nmilpso, . Deng @33 yrs old is scheduled to make 36 Mil. (18 Mil. per year) for the next 2 years.
Ryan @30 yrs old is scheduled to make 41 Mil. (20 and 21 Mil. ) for the next 2 years. for the next 2 years.
That's 77 Mil. for 2 players in their 30's that would be non-starters. It seems just a bit much, wouldn't you agree?

14 Aug 2018 18:34:51
@torque Delly, Snell, Henson combined are scheduled to make 75.2 mil, so Bucks don't take more salary with that. Plus they get rid of Snell's third year, which is important as they should make a hit in FA 2020 to convince GIannis to stay. This is the first benefit and the second is the two 1sts.

Bucks will go in the 2020 FA with this core

Brogdon/ pick 20
Brown/ DDV/
Middleton/ pick 22
Giannis/ Wilson
Maker/ Pick 28

And 40 million to spend for 1-2 players that will take them to the next level. It's a risky plan, but I think better than doing nothing.

14 Aug 2018 20:15:08
@milpso, First, You're comparing 75 mil. for 3 players, against 77 Mil. for 2 players? Second, Last year, Henson and Snell both started, and Dellevedova was the off the bench. When was the time Anderson and Deng started? It still seems like a lot for 2 bench players to me. I'd rather pay the 3 younger players money.

14 Aug 2018 20:42:59
I just prefer Brown, DDV, Maker taking Snell's, Delly's, Henson's minutes. Bucks need to make some guality players since they can't get any from FA. Anderson can hit some 3s for Bud and even Deng may still have something to contribute. Next summer you have three mid high picks to grow your core. And you go to FA 2020 with money and a really appealing roster to convince a superstar join the team. Sorry @torque this is the way I see it!

15 Aug 2018 00:52:06
@milpso, Understood, I guess that's what this forum is for, Different opinions, and scenarios, Ours just differ is all.

10 Aug 2018 04:38:26

Kings receive: Crowder, Udoh
Jazz receive: Labissiere, Koufos, future 2nd rounder

Fox / Ferrell / Mason
Hield / Bogdanovic / Shumpert
Crowder / Jackson
Bagley / Bjelica / Randolph
Cauley-Stein / Giles / Udoh / Davis

Rubio / Exum / Neto
Mitchell / Burks / Allen
Ingles / O'Neale / Sefolosha
Favors / Labissiere / Niang
Gobert / Koufos / Bradley

Kings fill SF hole with a good contract, even though Crowder's numbers dipped a bit last year. Koufos' departure opens up minutes for Giles. They buy out McLemore.

The Jazz lose Crowder's versatility, but they get more depth at PF & C positions this year. They also free up around $6 mil in cap space for next off-season. Labissiere seems like a good fit, and will become a restricted free agent at the end of Favors' current contract.

10 Aug 2018 06:10:19
I don't think the jazz would do it.

09 Aug 2018 16:58:00

Milwaukee get Butler
Minnesota get Bazemore, Brogdon, Brown, Maker
Atlanta get Snell, Wilson, Mil 2nd

Bucks get the best player in the deal and become real contenders in the East.


Wolves get a decent return for expiring Butler, make a deeper roster and commit to KAT - Wiggins.


Hawks get a former 1st pick and a future 2nd for bothering to downgrade from Bazemore to Snell.


09 Aug 2018 17:19:20
Stop dumping crap like snell who is barely backup quality. Stop over exagerrating brogdan value who is good player. Brown wilson maker do hold that much value either to get you butler. Just be happy milwaukee has an nba team.

09 Aug 2018 18:00:42
Can't wait for your next Noah trade!

09 Aug 2018 19:25:48
Nice! shizzee knocking quality players as un-tradable, but does move Noah in deals.

08 Aug 2018 22:24:59
Heat get Kanter Thomas Koufos
Nets get Whiteside Noah Lee
Kings get Hardaway Olynyk
Knicks get Carroll Randolph Faried Shumpert Dudley Arthur

Knicks save the most money get worst talent in return


Heat save 2nd most money and descent return with only 1 mil guarenteed next yr.


Kings get best offensive return, take future salary


Nets take the most future salary for 1 more additional yr but have chance to be playoff after a 15 yrs layoff. Than


08 Aug 2018 23:59:38
Knicks should add Knox and Porzingis.

09 Aug 2018 00:16:14
So, the Knicks trade all their garbage for expiring contracts without giving anything up of value. It doesn’t matter how many teams you involve or which teams are involved, this trade is never going to make sense. They’re going to have to give up picks or young talent to get rid of their crap just like any other team.

09 Aug 2018 03:31:38
Love for noah makes more sense rkenne.

09 Aug 2018 05:03:43
Shizzee give it up man.

09 Aug 2018 19:33:30
Nets have clearly stated they are clearing as much money as possible to make a run at a couple of max FA’s next year. Why in God’s name would they make this deal?

10 Aug 2018 01:17:24
Brooklyn wants two max slots next year. They aren't taking contracts on.

08 Aug 2018 12:49:16

Bucks get Fournier, Deng
Lakers get Henson
Orlando gets Snell, Dellavedova, MIL 1st, LAL 1st

Milwaukee gets a starting sg that fits to their needs

Lakers save money and get a big needed for their rotation

Orlando sacrifise Fournier for two mid high picks and backup players

08 Aug 2018 13:34:56
Just dumping Deng would cost the Lakers a #1, without getting anything in return. Bucks get screwed big-time in that deal.

08 Aug 2018 13:59:18
Isn’t that basically what’s happening Supercollider? The lakers trade Deng and a first for a player with no value or negative value of his own.

I like it for the Bucks. Fournier isn’t great, but he’s better than what they have. Deng could also be a serviceable rotational player still I think, just massively overpaid.

08 Aug 2018 14:30:58
Fournier is better than what they have? You mean, better than Middleton, Giannis and Brodgan?

08 Aug 2018 14:52:51
Fournier is a better starting sg than Snell on a same deal, 5 mil more per year.

08 Aug 2018 15:02:48
Latest rumor out of Milwaukee is the Bucks are looking to trade Henson and Dellavedova plus a 2nd. rd. pick to the Atlanta Hawks for SG kent Basemore.

08 Aug 2018 15:30:14
Thats not true supercollider! Deng scored 14 pts in a scrimmage the other day! The bucks likely would need to give the lakers the 1st in order for the lakers to be willing to part with that stud!

08 Aug 2018 17:34:40
And aren't Bazemore and Fournier about the same in overall quality Torque?

Well, Fournier doesn't have to overlap Middleton or Giannis. Brogdon doesn't start to my knowledge, and I'd say Fournier is better than him ignoring contracts (Brogdon has more value probably, but that doesn't mean he's a better player) . He's better than Snell without a doubt.

Maybe taking in Deng kills the deal, but I think Fournier would be a good fit in Milwaukee, just like Bazemore would be.

08 Aug 2018 18:17:35
@ Bmiller66, To me its 6 of this, and a half a dozen between Bazemore, and Fournier. I would prefer Bazemore. If Milwaukee would trade Henson and Dellavedova plus a 2nd rd pick. Contracts would match, plus both would finally be gone. Bazemore is a better defender than Fournier also. That's just my take on it.

08 Aug 2018 18:35:39
Yeah, Bazemore is a more defensive guy, Fournier is more of an offensive weapon. Both are solid role players.

08 Aug 2018 18:57:00
Agreed! Bmiller66!

09 Aug 2018 00:14:09
No Giannis needs shooters (Fournier) man bucks fans are dumb! Just a couple more years now till giannis heads to LA.

08 Aug 2018 05:54:00
At trade deadline
Thunder get Griffin
Pistons get Schroder, Abrines, Patterson, Singler, and a 2nd or 2

Please read the explination before u start replying.
This is just an idea I doubt this trade happens, but say next year Griffin and the Pistons aren't winning u would have to assume they would want to trade him. He is makeing 32 mil next year and it goes up after that. No team wants that kind of contract if that player isn't helping the team win, and let's be honest Griffin is not really a number 1 go to guy he is a good 2 but not a good solo star. If they did try to trade him because of his contract and injury history I would have to assume they would not get a lot of offers. I know this is not a great package but they get a decent young player and give the Pistons the opportunity to move on from Jackson because he has not been working for them. They also free up a large amount of money.

Thunder do this because they can't sign another all star because of their salary situation, but if they did this they would have Westbrook, George, Griffin, and Adams locked up through 2020-21 to build around with minimum contract role players. Plus Griffin returns home to OKC makes for a good story.

Thunder line up
Westbrook/ Felton/?
Roberson/ Ferguson/ Diallo
George/ TLC/ Nader
Griffin/ Grant/?
Adams/ Noel/?
They don't have much depth sign players at the? Spots to fill out the team, and then build a better bench during the off-season.
Again I don't think this will happen but if it did do y'all think this would be a good or bad move for thunder?

08 Aug 2018 07:34:44
Major cap and spacing issues for the Thunder if this goes through. For the Pistons paying two non-shooting PGs a combined 35m/ y is a daunting prospect.

08 Aug 2018 14:08:52
They already have major cap issues this just gives them another all star to help them get closer to the finals and an upgrade at starting PF. Thunder organization has said they are fine spending a lot of money to stay relevant and they would definitely be relevant.
The Pistons could then trade Jackson and move on from him. He is a lil under rated in my opinion u never hear about him, but he just hasn't worked for the Pistons. Last year Schroder averaged more points, assists, rebounds and a better fg%, Schroder is 4 years younger, and his contract is a lil cheaper. Schroder would be a small upgrade over Jackson. And if thunder can move Melos terrible horrific contract I'm sure Pistons can move jacksons bad contract to a team like the magic or sun's that need a pg, and still get something that will help them.

08 Aug 2018 16:34:54
So the Pistons end up with Jackson and Schroeder?

09 Aug 2018 00:20:04
Gets them closer to the finals? Why they still get swept by golden state save that money try again in 3 years when the warriors are dismantled.

11 Aug 2018 05:43:57
I don’t think the thunder would do this they want to run a super star duo like the rockets with a bunch of role players bc that seemed much Moreno effective.

07 Aug 2018 14:00:33
Heat trade: Whiteside
Receive: Henson, Bayless (Waive / Buyout), 2x '20 2nds
Get below the tax line this year, Henson gives you some of what Whiteside does with no headache. Also clears 14m cap space next year.

Sixers trade: Bayless, '20 2nd
Receive: Delly
Get rid of Bayless and get a solid role player in return. Delly offers good complementary defence and shooting to a finals hopeful roster.

Bucks trade: Henson, Delly, '20 2nd
Receive: Whiteside
Get the rebounding and shot blocking they lacked last year. Dive deeper into tax but don't give up the world.

07 Aug 2018 14:21:18
Delly has negative value. I can’t see the 76ers trading an expiring and a 2nd for him. Not to mention, the 76ers have Simmoms, Fultz, and McConnell that will all spend time at point. They don’t need Delly.

07 Aug 2018 15:25:40
Delly is absolutely useless to the sixers, short or long term. Trade makes Zero sense for philly.

07 Aug 2018 15:49:02
I agree with all comments but, No one wants Whiteside OR his bad attitude, (On and off the court) and Overpaid contract.

08 Aug 2018 05:08:00
Latest rumor out of Milwaukee is The Bucks sending Henson, and Dellavedova plus a 2nd rd. pick to the Atlanta Hawks for Kent Bazemore.

08 Aug 2018 14:20:34
Torque, that's not you bazemore. They want expiring contracts maybe bazemore for shumpert.

08 Aug 2018 15:03:57
But MIL already has 13 guards.

07 Aug 2018 02:01:55
Bucks get a C, Raps clean up their books, Mavs use their cap space

Mavs receive: Zeller (Waive), '23 pick swap (Better), 2m cash (covers Zeller's salary)
Send: '23 pick swap (Worse)

Raptors receive: Henson, Delly, Wilson, Brown, '23 pick swap (Worse)
Send: Ibaka, Powell,'23 pick swap (Better), 2m cash

Bucks receive: Ibaka, Powell
Send: Henson, Delly, Wilson, Brown, Zeller

PG: Bledsoe, Brogdon
SG: Middleton, Powell
SF: Antetokounmpo, Snell
PF: Ilyasova, Maker
C: Ibaka, Lopez

08 Aug 2018 14:26:02
Raptors making a champ. run. They won't trade chewbaka.

06 Aug 2018 00:13:28
Milwaukee get Mahinmi, Smith and Oubre with Monroe exception
Washington gets Dellavedova, Maker, Wilson, Zeller, MIL 2nd

Wizzards then attach the pick to Meeks for any team with cap room or trade exception available and go under the tax. They do this purely for financial issues. They will be way over the tax with Mahinmi and Oubre resigned next year.

Porter/Satoransky/Troy Brown Jr

Bucks get another solid wing to backup Middleton (and a possible future starter) at the expense of their third pg, pf and c.


06 Aug 2018 05:53:11
Wizards get robbed.

05 Aug 2018 00:07:02
Heat get Kanter Hardaway
Mavs get Waiters Lee
Knicks get Whiteside Mathews Kleber-cut

Heat cut future salary while getting stronger offensively


Dallas has balance to compete for playoff


Whiteside Robinson Noah will allow ny to bench Porzingis all yr. Knicks will trade Whiteside Noah final yr to Dal for cap space in offseason when Jordan leaves.if that happen with Thomas 1 mil opt buyout, this will NY 96 mil cap space for 3 maxed out contracts 29 mil for Irving Butler 1st yr. Durant 38 mil in 1st yr. Before they resign Porzingis. Knicks trade 1st down for late 1st 2 2nd

Durant/Hezonja-mle split/Martin-2nd
Knox/Vonleh-mle split/Porter-2nd

04 Aug 2018 01:15:43

Lakers get Bledsoe, Zeller
Suns get Ball, Wilson
Bucks get Jackson, Deng, LAL 1st, PHO 2nd

Lakers get rid of Deng's contract and Ball circus. They get Lebron's buddy to fight with Rondo and one more body needed behind McGee and Zubac. They also make cap space to sign Leonard and one more max player (Klay?) in 2019.

Suns trade No4 2017 pick for No2 in a position they hurt the most.

Bucks remove Brogdon to pg and try to make Jackson their future sg. They also take some picks for eating Deng's monster deal.

04 Aug 2018 01:59:12
Don't think suns do this.

04 Aug 2018 02:16:35
Milwaukee currently has 13 guards, Including 2 on 2way contracts, and the signing of another SG (Connaughton) Why add another? Plus, Why add Deng? 33 yrs old, and owed 36 mil. for the next 2 years! I believe the Bucks would pass.

04 Aug 2018 03:46:39
Suns say no Lakers say no.

04 Aug 2018 04:34:15
Lakers say no.

04 Aug 2018 14:58:05
Nary a chance PHX would agree to this.

03 Aug 2018 02:46:13
Thunder lack a solid backup SF and have several young players that can battle for the backup SG position Ferguson, TLC, Diallo so I think they should trade Alex Abrines using the TPE from Melo trade to get a solid SF for the bench. Most of the trades would make the luxury bill go up a lot but Thunder could cut, trade, or stretch Singler to make them cheaper and open a roster spot after the trade.

Thunder get Demarre Carroll
Nets get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd

Thunder get Marvin Williams
Hornets get Abrines

Thunder get Korver
Cavs get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Bojan Bogdanovic
Pacers get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Josh Richardson
Heat get Abrines, 2 2 nd’s

Thunder get Tony Snell
Bucks get Abrines

Thunder get Courtney Lee
Knicks get Abrines, 1 2nd if needed

Thunder get Jonathan Simmons
Magic get Abrines 2 2nd’s

Thunder get CJ Miles
Raptors get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get Garrett Temple
Grizzlies get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get E'Twaun Moore
Pelicans get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Jae Crowder
Jazz get Abrines, 2 2nds

At trade deadline if Ariza won't sign with sun's next year
Thunder get Ariza
Suns get Abrines, 1 or 2 seconds

Give me your opinions. Will any of these work?

03 Aug 2018 05:24:03
Can't include a TPE with a player.

03 Aug 2018 06:13:48
Dang I didn't realize that. Well ignore all of those.

03 Aug 2018 01:39:59

MIL get Damian Lillard & Evan Turner

Pg Lillard/Dellavedova
Sg Brogdon/Connaughton/Divicenzo
Sf Giannis/Turner/Snell
Pf Ilyasova/Maker/Wilson
Ce Lopez/Henson

POR get D'Angelo Russell, Khris Middleton, Demarre Carroll & 1st round pick MIL (future)

Pg Russell/Curry
Sg McCollum/Baldwin/Stauskas
Sf Middleton/Carroll
Pf Aminu/Harkless
Ce Nurkic/Leonard

BKN get Eric Bledsoe (exp)

Pg Bledsoe/Dinwiddie/Napier
Sg Crabbe/Levert
Sf RHJ/Harris
Pf Faried/Dudley
Ce Allen/Davis

03 Aug 2018 04:28:40
Nets say no for sure. Portland probably says no, and this might help Bucks a little but this won't help them that much Bledsoe and Middleton are better at defense. I don't like it for anyone.

03 Aug 2018 13:31:41
I believe Milwaukee would also say no. Middleton isn't going anywhere, No matter how many times people put him in trades. The Bucks have stated that Giannis and Middleton are pretty much untouchable.

03 Aug 2018 15:23:59
You wouldn’t trade Middleton on an expiring deal for Lillard with 3 years left? You’re hopeless.

The Nets wouldn’t do this. Russell was good last year and he’s still very young. Why trade him for an expiring contract of an average player?

Portland also says no. You don’t trade a superstar for multiple role players. It’s never a good idea.

The Bucks can’t say yes fast enough.

03 Aug 2018 17:28:05
Being a Blazer fan, I do get your fascination with Middleton (he and McCollum are identically valuable players playing alongside equally great superstars) . Most trades that come up surrounding those guys are side grades at best (getting someone like Kevin Love or Griffin, or getting a bunch of role players that are replaceable parts) . With those kind of trades, you don't move Middleton/ McCollum.

But let's reverse this. Portland trades McCollum, Aminu, and a first for Giannis. That's the same deal as what is stated here in terms of quality. Would I want to trade McCollum? No. Would I move him for a top 10 player in Giannis? Without a question.

03 Aug 2018 18:59:40
Lillard is not in my top ten of nba'ers in anything other than salary. I like McCollum but he isn't a top 10'er.

03 Aug 2018 19:27:43
You also have an irrational dislike for Lillard Btec (and probably an irrational liking for McCollum) . Having watched both for a number of years, I can tell you 100% that Lillard is CONSIDERABLY better in every way than McCollum. McCollum is a good player, Lillard is great.

Maybe he's not top 10 (I think he is, but I'm a Blazer fan), but he's right on that line. There's like 5-7 guys that are clearly better than him (Durant, Lebron, Curry, Harden, AD), but he's in the next group. Ranking them 8-15 is really splitting hairs.

03 Aug 2018 20:07:34
Why would the Bucks want to take on an extra 16 mil in salary plus give up a pick? Lillard might be better than Bledsoe, But Turner in Not better than Middleton!

03 Aug 2018 22:42:23
@bmiller66 - irrational because I don't share your opinion? I'm now not a fan and am irrational because Lillard is closer to Middletown value than he is Giannis? I'll be over in my delusional fan corner. Why do you think lillard is always butt hurt about the olympics if he's a top ten player?

03 Aug 2018 23:44:57
Lillard is better than Bledsoe and Middleton combined. That’s why. You can’t just compare one to one. It’s like saying “Giannis is better than Aminu, but McCollum is better than Bledsoe! ”.

04 Aug 2018 01:03:38
No but (once again) I’ll say it the bucks will lose giannis if they don’t give him help, Middleton is and never will be a Allstar! He is good but if ya get dame to make your superstar happy ya do it! I think torque ya said Jabari was untouchable we literally think zero of your basketball knowledge! Saying no to everything doesn’t help your team think outside the bucks.

04 Aug 2018 02:23:14
Hello madeindade28, "I" never said Parker was untouchable! You seem sure Middleton will never be an all star? And, Who is this "WE"? saying no to everything, Not quite but, watching other teams dump their crap on the ucks seems odd? Here's one for you, trade Dame for Dellavedova, then trade Wilson for Labron James, That would help Giannis, PLUS Portland AND la also chip in a couple of 1st rd picks!

02 Aug 2018 02:22:25
Nets get Hardaway Lee Noah Labissierre 2020 2022 1st
Knicks get Carroll Shumpert Faried
Kings get Crabbe Kurocs 2020 & 2022 Nets 2nd

Nets get 2 future 1st at the cost of 2 future seconds for equal talent in return. The extra 1STs convience them to wait additional yr for free agency with 80 mil cap space while still having competitive team over next 2 yrs


Kings get a much better wing and 2 additional future picks for taking extra yr of salary for starter who spread the floor


Knicks the big risk takers. 1st buyot for Thomas 1 mil. Free cap space on bringing on Durant, Butler and Irving 30 mil per yr as free agents with 12 mil payroll. Finally resigning Porzingis.

Irving/Ntilikina/vet min
Butler/C.Martin-2nd/Vet min
Durant/Dotson/Vet min
Knox/Williamson-1st/Vet min
Porzingis/Robinson/Vet min

31 Jul 2018 06:39:08

Bucks get McCollum, Leonard
Blazers get Fournier, Augustin, Maker, Mil 1st
Magic get Bledsoe, Snell, Mil 2nd

Bucks get a great fit in McCollum

Blazers replace him with Fournier and add Augustin for needed depth. They also swap Leonard with Maker which will avoid them the tax and get a first

Magic gets equal value, but with Bledsoe exp has better flexibility for next year FA

31 Jul 2018 07:00:54
McCollum has more value.

31 Jul 2018 09:49:20
It's a good return for McCollum

Fournier would be a good fit with Lillard, Maker has potential and the first round pick, gives Portland the flexibility to trade a bad contract and save some money.

31 Jul 2018 14:59:14
This is basically trading an allstar caliber sg, for a good, not great, player in fournier, a guy who has done nothing in maker, and a pick that is likely in the mid 20s. pretty awful return.

31 Jul 2018 15:45:27
How are the Bucks getting McCollum back for that? Are you overvaluing Bledsoe or Maker?

Maker would get lost behind Collins. Fournier is worse than McCollum in basically every way but height.

This makes Portland considerably worse short term, and doesn't help long term.

31 Jul 2018 20:12:10
Fournier can provide similar to McCollum on a cheaper deal and Augustin is a piece that will take some pressure off Lillard. It's a minor downgrade for Portand, but for that they avoid the tax with Leonard - Maker swap and take a 1st. I'm not saying it's ideal, but it's an honest offer.

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