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23 Nov 2017 13:16:26
Phoe: Schröder+ Bellinelli

Atl: T chandler+ B Knight+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Phoe (top 3 protected)+ 1rnd pick bucks


Phoenix receives a good pointguard and capspace.

Atlanta can rebuilt (this trade will give them 6 1st rnd picks in nex years draft (alt/phoe/miami/hou/Minny/bucks)

23 nov 2017 01:01:04
this is a little complicated but i think it works:

trade 1
la gets- frye,calderon,green (drop all)

crowder trade later

2018 1st rd(brk )
2020 1st rd (clev

clev gets-nance,randle,deng
2018 2nd rd(den )
2020 1st rd (la)
for play off & future
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trade 2
la gets-daynes,larkin,yabussele
(drop all)
smart trade later
2018 1st rd 1,6-30
2018 1st rd( 2-5)
2018 1st rd (sac)
depands on la pick

bost gets (for playof-lopez,crowder(7.2 mil money is offset for hayford)
2020 2nd rd (la)
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trade 3
la gets -johnson,covington,drop both
okafor trade later
2018 1st rd( 2-5)
2018 1st rd (sac
depands on la pick

phil gets-kcp morris
for playoff
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trade 4
la gets -randolph,giles
2020 1st rd (kings)

kings get-clarkson,okafor
*****************************
laker get-
george,lbjcousins

laker keeps-
ingram,ball, kuzma,hart,zubac,bryant

23 Nov 2017 03:39:28
you are right, this is very complicated. are you saying they make additional trades with the same teams for the players u called “trade later”?

23 nov 2017 06:30:25
yes look below.

23 Nov 2017 07:28:04
So. trade 3.Lakers somehow get Covington and then DROP him. he is probably the best player of all of those mentioned above but you woukd drop him.

23 Nov 2017 10:15:39
These may be the worst, most one sided, and I'll conceived trades I've ever seen on here, Congratulations.

23 Nov 2017 14:42:09
These are jokes, right?

Every one is horribly lop sided in favour of the Lakers. In which world do you land Crowder and the Brooklyn pick for Nance, and a salary dump in Deng? These actually make me angry!

19 Nov 2017 15:49:26
Bucks/Cavs/76ers/Nuggets

Bucks get J. Okafor, W. Chandler

Cavs get K. Faried, J. Bayless

Nuggets get M. Teletovic, I. Shumpert

76ers get J. Henson, C. Frye

Also nuggets and 76ers get picks

19 Nov 2017 16:24:40
I hate it for the Nuggets even with a future first. They give up probably the 2 most valuable pieces in the trade and Chandler is the best player in the trade by a lot.

19 Nov 2017 16:39:12
Sounds fair. The Bucks can use a Center, and a backup SF. Okafor and Chandler could fill those slots, even if they send a 2nd rd pick. Or, Milwaukee can also cut The two Cheerleaders "Terry, (40 yrs. old) and Vaughn" (Who can't fall off a horse and hit the ground, Or hit the broadside of a barn with a Basketball, even if he was standing inside of it) And sign Mindaugas Kuzminskas who was recently cut by the NY Knicks. 6'9" SF who can shoot and rebound.

19 Nov 2017 10:48:59
Miami: Dudley+ T Chandler+ B Knight+ return miami pick 2018 and 2021

Phoe: H Whiteside+ Booker+ Mudiay

Denver: Dragic+ 1rnd pick Bucks

Nets: Farried+ 2rnd pick OKc (from Suns)


Miami has little future, playing for the eight spot. They take contracts for draft picks. They already have some young talents, so they can go for a total rebuilt.

Phoenix get a good defensive center, a young pointguard and capspace

Denver get a good pointguard that can lead that team and an extra draft pick

The Nets get an exciting player and an extra draft pick

20 Nov 2017 16:49:07
Don't think Miami is in the market for a rebuild after all the money they just spent on signings this offseason.

18 Nov 2017 16:56:11
The Cavs get Delly, Beverly, and Jordan

The Bucks get Shumpert, Lou Williams, and Griffin

The Clippers get Frye (waive), Teletovic, Osman, Zizic, Thompson, Brogdon, Maker, Parker, and the Brooklyn 1st

18 Nov 2017 20:13:28
The Clippers should go in a rebuilt mode indeed.

The Cavs take a big gamle, they risk to lose IT, LBJ and Jordan, all for nothing and they don't have the Nets pick anymore for a rebuilt.

18 Nov 2017 21:05:41
The Bucks say No! No way Milwaukee is trading, Brogdan, Maker, or Parker. Maybe Dellavedova, Teletovic, And Vaughn? The Clippers are sure getting a lot, 9 players and waive one? ) While NOT giving up much? Milwaukee doesn't need Shumpert, Williams or Griffin. (They give up 5 players to get 3 back? ) They need a Center (Okafor? ) . The Cavaliers need all the help they can get!

19 Nov 2017 00:04:21
Dark side, the Bucks desperately need a second star or they're going to end up like the Cavs during the first Lebron era and Giannis will walk.

19 Nov 2017 09:45:03
Agree with bucks needing another star or Giannis could walk like to see durant giannis and Unicorn on the same team sky is the limit.

19 Nov 2017 14:48:44
@ rkenne_16, Agreed, Bledsoe was suppose to be it. But, I don't think Shumpert, Lou Williams or Griffin is the answer. Where would Griffin play? Giannis is now Milwaukee's PF, When Parker gets back, he will be the SF. I would like to see the Bucks trade Vaughn and a 2nd. rd. pick to the 76ers for Okafor. They need a Center. Henson is just a tall skinny PF playing Center, as is Maker. Give the Bucks some time. Bledsoe just got there. Middleton hopefully will pickup his game, as will Snell. Then Parker will be back. Milwaukee does need a 2nd star, (If that's what you want to call it) but, They need a center first.

19 Nov 2017 14:59:02
@ rkenne_16, Who is the "2nd star" at Cleveland? Love? I Thomas? Tristan Thompson? J R Smith? Give Milwaukee some time, Let them get a Center (Okafor) Let Brogdan (ROY) work with the 2nd team. Milwaukee doesn't need a 2nd star, They need to work as a team. One player can score 20-30-40-50-60. If the team isn't playing, it doesn't matter. let's see what Parker does when he gets back (Feb? ) He was suppose to be the 2nd "Star" before.

19 Nov 2017 17:15:23
Irving was the second star and IT can become the second star.
And Love is a great PF, he's still a star.

19 Nov 2017 17:31:03
Darkside, I would take IT or Love over any player other than GA on the Bucks roster. Middleton and Bledsoe are good, but not allstars. Brogdon could be a star, but he doesn't look like a high upside guy and I'm fairly sceptical that Parker can even get back to where he was. Plus, someone is giving him a fairly big contract in the offseason no matter what. It seems like a fairly big roll of the dice for the Bucks, who might have cap problems fairly soon.
Griffin would clearly be the 2nd best player on that team and maybe the best 2nd option in the East. There is no reason to think he can't start at the 5. There aren't many centers in the league who will physically over match him and he would be a nightmare for opposing centers to deal with on the perimeter.
Henson is clearly a center in today's league (a career back up center, but look at the pfs on decent teams, Henson doesn't have the offensive skill to matche them and will struggle defensively on the perimeter) and while Maker looks like he has the skills to develop into a pf, his best position at this point.

19 Nov 2017 17:54:18
Irving WAS the second star, (Gone, expendable) I Thomas will NOT be a great PG, just a PG. Love might be a Good PF but, NOT a great! Right now, Love is playing Center, And he's NOT a great one! Still a Star?, Or just another option? If L. James leaves, Cleveland will become what they were when James left the first time. Just another team in the East. And nothing more. Young players don't have a chance in Cleveland. What's the average age there? 30-34? Bottom line, Cleveland needs all the help they can get, Then let them play.

19 Nov 2017 18:19:10
rkenne_16, Any other player? You would take IT or Love for? WOW! Well I guess we all have our favorites. IT will see what Irving was talking about when he starts playing. I don't know about Brogdan and Parker, I have to see Parker play a full season without getting hurt. Brogdan was ROY last year, Now plays with the second unit, So, Will have to see? Griffin is a 6'9" PF. I don't see him as a Center anywhere? 2nd best option in the East? There are still Centers Gasol (Brothers) who would more than match up with him, he's too short for todays Centers, and more Centers Also shoot from outside. Henson and Maker are tall PF's and nothing more. No offensive skills, (Maker's 3 pointers? ) And Henson's left hook? Well, I guess we just have different views. That works for me.

19 Nov 2017 18:19:59
Love has been an allstar 4 of the last 7 years, including last year and one of the years he missed most of the season.

IT has been an allstar the last 2 years, was an MVP candidate last year, and the best player on the 2nd best team in the East.

Take Lebron off of the Cavs and if they can stay relatively healthy, they make the playoffs. The team would have little upside and would be better rebuilding, but a starting line up of IT Jr Crowder Love and TT with a bench of Rose Shumpert Korver Green and Frye makes the playoffs. If you take Giannis off the Bucks, you have a team similiar to the Suns.

19 Nov 2017 18:55:28
Darkside any player on the Bucks roster other than Giannis, not any player in the league.
Blake is 6 10 250 ( the average height of an nba center take from the combine is 6 11 and almost no NBA centers have Griffins leaping ability) He's not going to get pushed around by many Centers and on the offensive end, how many centers have the skill on the perimeter and athleticism to guard Blake?
Now let's look at players in the NBA currently playing significant time at pf Arron Gordon, Lebron/ Love/ Jeff Green, Green/ Durant, Horford/ Morris, Morris/ Porter, Ibaka, Aldridge/ gay, Ryan Anderson, Porzingis, Davis, Griffin, Giannis/ Parker, Saric, Kuzma/ Randle, Millsapp/ Chandler, Dieng, etc. All of those players can be effective on the perimeter. A hook shot isn't going to get it done for a pf anymore this isn't 1987 and Henson would struggle guarding those guys and it takes him away from the basket much more often where he's at his best blocking shots. He's a center. Again, I think Maker can develop into a starting pf, but as raw as he is on offense and him still getting used to having to consistently guard the perimeter, C is currently his best position until his game develops.

19 Nov 2017 18:55:33
Without James, I don't think the Cavs will make the playoffs. They are having a difficult time just winning games now. It was a allstar and MVP candidate with Boston, he's missed to many games to be considered now. Plus staying healthy is the key word. Shumpert is currently out for the next 1-2 weeks with a knee issue. The Cavs would be better rebuilding. With that lineup you stated, Its also possible they won't make the playoffs. No doubt you're a Cavs. fan. I have no team I'm a fan of. Just a basketball fan. I believe Boston wins the East this year.

20 Nov 2017 08:50:04
I would take IT or Love over any one except GA on the Bucks current roster. I don't think Parker will ever develop into anything more than a third option at this point, I feel the same about Middleton and Bledsoe. Brogdon could, but I doubt it. Griffin is clearly better than all of them by a wide margin.

Also, while at some point Maker could be a starting 4, Henson is clearly a player than can almost only play the 5 in todays league. He's a career backup center.
Griffin could play the 5. There aren't any huge mismatches for him to guard, specifically in the East, and he would be a mismatch for most other centers. It's not like Blake would even be all that undersized at the position.

I think Lou can play the backup pg or sg for the Bucks who could have Giannis and Blake stay in the game opposite of him and be the initiator of the offense. Shumpert can come in and be a versatile defender off the bench.

Also, how is Blake Griffin, Jordan, Williams and Beverly not much? Griffin and Jordan are both all NBA players, Williams is one of the better scorers in the league, and Beverly is probably the best defensive pg in the league. I'm not sure why the number of players coming back matter? In almost every trade for an allstar you see a package of players and picks coming back. Its not like players like Teletovic and Delly have much value.

20 Nov 2017 08:54:44
Darkside, I am a Cavs fan, but clearly, you're a closet Bucks fan. All of you're posts on this site are about the Bucks and tend to skew in their favor.

20 Nov 2017 16:04:12
A closet Bucks fan? Actually no, I live in Wisconsin. I don't live in Ohio, Plus the fact I'm NOT a bandwagon jumper! I post about local teams, Nothing more. Pity, Understand one thing, Most peoples "opinions" are like most peoples "backsides" The majority of them "Stink! " Now, Don't you have some Cavaliers to cheer for? Oddly enough, The majority of posters her, actually think their ideas count? Like some GM is going to read it and go, "HEY! " that's what WE should do. For me, Its "Grins and Giggles" and nothing more! You wouldn't happen to have a "fantasy" team also would you? Enjoy your day!

20 Nov 2017 16:50:07
@RKenne You stated. Dark side, the Bucks desperately need a second star or they're going to end up like the Cavs during the first Lebron era and Giannis will walk.


NOW you know why i reject all the lame Cousins trade ideas.

22 Nov 2017 08:21:44
Clearly, since you've went back and forth with me for a small book, you're just as invested in the site as I or anyone else is. No need to be pretentious and condescending.

Dacman, the difference in situations is Blake is locked up long term. Cousins may walk after the season and outside of the two bigs, the Pelicans roster is bad and they have no money, picks or players with much value.

18 Nov 2017 01:43:43
Trade 1: Phoe-Clippers-Port-Wolves

Phoe: B Griffin+ McCollum+ L williams

Port: J Butler+ 2rnd pick OKC(from Phoenix)

Wolves: Monroe+ J Jackon

Clippers: B Knight+Dudley+Bender+1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick suns+ 1rnd pick Bucks

Trade 2
Clippers-LA-Philly

LA: D Jordan+ 2rnd pick clippers
Clippers: Ingram+ clarckson+ Deng


Phoenix receive two all star calliber players and a great sixth man. McCollum and Griffin would be a great duo. Griffin could be the main ball handler and McCollum can be a great scorer. Griffin- McCollum-Bookers would be a big three. And they still have some assets to trade for a good center (Chriss+ 2021 Miami pick)

Portland receives a player that would be a better fit than McCollum.

The Wolves get an extra young player with potential and they can stay under the cap.

LA get capspace and they have a backup plan with signing Jordan if they fail to land other big free agents. They lose Ingram, but Kuzma is a good replacement and they trade Deng without losing draft picks


The Clippers can rebuilt with four draft picks, they aso propably keep their 2019 and 2020 pick (top 14 protected), so they only have to give Boston a 2022 second round . And they can develop Bender and Ingram. And Clarcson would be the main scorer in that team, so his stock would go up and they can trade him later for draft picks.

18 Nov 2017 05:39:50
i don't think the wolves would have any interest in this. their current roster can contend for much of the foreseeable future, but i don't think that happens w/ o butler around.

and the clippers have delusions that they are contenders, so blowing it up doesn't seem like their move. i would be shocked if they didn't resign dj (unless he forces his way out like cp did)

18 Nov 2017 08:55:57
@donadamsky

A Wiggins get a big contract next year, so the Wolves go over the cap. They also have to pay KAT a Max contract in 2019. Can/ will they pay the luxury tax? I really like Butler, but trading him for J Jackson and a second rnd pick would be a smart move. They don't need to win now, they still have time.

The Clippers do think that. But they're 5-9 and going to play for the eight spot, so this would be a smart move for them.

15 Nov 2017 14:15:35
Jazz Bucks 76ers

Jazz get Okafor and stauskas

76ers get Henson

Bucks get Favors

15 Nov 2017 17:43:57
Bucks/ 76ers

Buck send Vaughn, and 1-2 2nd rd. picks to Philly

76ers send Okafor.

Philly has no need for Henson and his contract.

Bucks have no need for Favors, and his contract. Okafor is younger, and more of a fit than Favors.

15 Nov 2017 12:51:52
Phoe: R gobert+ L Ball+ Deng

Utah: Clarckson+ Ingram+ J Jackson+ T Chandler+ 1rnd pick Suns

LA: Monroe+ Favors+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Bucks+ 1rnd pcik Miami 2021

15 Nov 2017 13:24:47
Big no from Lakers. While they clear Deng and Clarkson's deals, they give up their two best young assets for picks. Don't see Magic moving Lonzo for this.

15 Nov 2017 13:58:27
They could sign D Cousins+ P George+ LBJ.

15 Nov 2017 14:59:34
Maybe they sign them all, but so what? Then they would be stuck with a 2 or 3 yr window to win it all and then they have to start all over again and suck for the next 10 years.
No way Magic would he do this, or be allowed to do this.
They are on the right path. They can add LeBron and George. They would be far better off letting it play out.

15 Nov 2017 15:08:01
Gasupo, that's a huge risk and if they have to depleted their team of all affordable talent is it even worth it for Lebron or George to go since they're already on stacked teams.

15 Nov 2017 16:51:41
I wouldn't do that if I were the Lakers gm. But they already cleared Mozgov. So if they wanted to rebuild they could have kept russell. I can see them do it somehow if they can keep Ball and just give up Ingram alone. With Ball and the picks they have assets for the future.

15 Nov 2017 17:00:34
sure, la got to clear cap but if that means sell the farm, its a mistake. i think the model to follow is what the celtics have done/ doing. which is try to work an immediate and longterm plan. so pg and boog are both 27, wouldn't it be ideal, if they could, to have ball and ingram in their prime once pg and boog decline (and reach the end of their contracts)
and the lakers aren't even getting any lottery picks here as insurance
but holy hell could this deal work out great for utah if that suns pick is top 5 and ingram and jackson pan out.

15 Nov 2017 00:25:01
Release Beasley

December trade 15th
Bucks get Noah Clarkson
Lakers get Teletovic Kuzminkas Baker Session
Knicks get Deng Dellavedova

Bucks get better backup center and PG.this allows Giannis Parker Wilson
To stay PF. Maker Henson Noah at center. Middleton Snell

Lakers cut 1 yr from deng salary. Get young back up PG.

Knicks take on more future salary to move Noah contract. Sign Beasley

15 Nov 2017 03:31:49
i really don't think mil is going to put themself in luxury tax for a few years for this weak deal.

15 Nov 2017 13:25:53
Kuz is gone already shizzee.

14 Nov 2017 21:31:03
Hornets and Bucks

Frank and Graham for Jabari Parker

Might have to throw in O'Bryant to make salaries work.

13 Nov 2017 15:52:08
Bucks get: Anthony Davis, Frank Jackson, Jahlil Okafor

Pelicans get: Jabari Parker, Thon maker, Malcolm Brogdon,

76'ers get: Mirza Teletovic, Cheick Diallo

1)Bledsoe
2)Khris Middleton
3)Giannis
4)Anthony Davis
5)Jahlil okafor/ john Henson

13 Nov 2017 19:59:36
I stopped reading after seeing AD being traded.

13 Nov 2017 20:04:06
Bucks send Vaughn, (Teletovic? ) and a 2nd rd. pick to Philly

Philly Sends J. Okafor to Milwaukee.

A Davis isn't going anywhere

Neither is Brogdan, Parker, or Maker.

13 Nov 2017 20:31:02
Please tell me you are kidding. Really horrible.

14 Nov 2017 14:13:05
why not just trade ad and boogie for giannis and bledsoe.

14 Nov 2017 21:06:16
AD > Giannis
Boogie > Bledsoe

So unless Cousins won't resign, that's why.

15 Nov 2017 03:37:47
@dacman guessing u didn't realize that was a joke.

16 Nov 2017 14:39:12
Do know, lol.

13 Nov 2017 09:14:35
I'm trying to make a Deng trade.

Philly: Ingram+Daniels

Suns: L Ball+ Deng

LA: Okafor+ 1rnd pick LA /or 1rnd pick Philly or Sac 2019+ 1rnd pick bucks 2018

Phoenix receive a PG with potential that fits the system. (And there's less pressure than in LA)

Philly get a young wingman

And LA get capspace and draft picks. They could sign LBJ, P george and D cousins. And they have the assets (draft picks) to trade for some good roll players. And they can start a rebuilt with the draft picks if they fail to land free agents.

13 Nov 2017 09:55:22
LA: * Monroe.

13 Nov 2017 12:46:37
Lakers not trading Ball.

13 Nov 2017 14:57:54
No way Magic will ever trade Lonzo Ball. He is basically the face of the franchise. Especially for a center that no one wants and a bunch of unknown players via draft picks.

13 Nov 2017 17:17:18
so the lakers trade their only two “untouchable” players (each a former number 2 pick) for some picks that won't even be top 5.yeah, ok.

13 Nov 2017 17:19:24
Actually, I should be all for that trade. As far as I'm concerned, the more the Lakers lose, the better chance the Celtics have at getting a 2 to 5 lottery pick.
Alas, the Lakers still won't trade Ball.

12 Nov 2017 02:13:32
can the laker take over chigago Dwyane Wade salary of 15.5 mil and nikola mirotic 12.5 mil salary =28 mil
maybe a 2nd rd

and trade it to the lakers for luol deng 17.2 mil,Randle 4.1 mil and brewer 7.5 = 28.8 mil it that fare

12 Nov 2017 11:50:53
That's an intresting question.
It's a bad trade for Chicago, they need Randle+ a pick and maybe clarckson for doing this

But can a team trade salary for players?

12 Nov 2017 18:21:14
Add a first round pick 2018 and you might have a deal as Chicago doesn't take a ton of money (Brewer's and Randle's contracts are exp) and they are at rebuilding so a maybe lottery pick can be useful.

-Just imagine if the Lakers convince Cousins&George (30m each) +LBJ (35m) to sign. (if they make this trade they have the cap to do it)

Ball/ Ennis/ (VetMin)
George/ Clarkson/ Hart
LBJ/ Ingram or Kuzma/ (VetMin)
Kuzma or Ingram/ Nance Jr/ 2nd round
Cousins/ Zubac/ Bryant


-All locked up for at least 2 years
(Only Larry Nance is not but his kinda expendable)

13 Nov 2017 13:36:11
Bad for Chicago. Randle is a mediocre prospect and is on an expiring deal. The Bulls would have to take on Deng's ridiculous contract and pay Randle at the end of the season. That would rap up way to much cash just to have Randle. Plus, you don't get an exception after a buyout, so they can't trade Wade's dead salary.

10 Nov 2017 11:38:51
What is the worst trade since 2010 besides the Nets- Celtics trade.

1) OKC- Hou
Hou: Harden
OKC: Lamb+K Martin/ 1rnd pick ( S Adams)

2) Clippers- Cleveland
Clippers: M Williams
Cleveland: b Davis+ 1rnd pick (K Irving)

3) NY- Tor
NY: Bargnani
Tor: Camby+ Novak+ 1rnd pick 2016 (Poetl)+ 2 2rnd picks

4) Suns-Bucks- Philly
Suns: B Knight+ Marchall
Philly: MC williams+ plumlee+ Ennis
Philly: protected 1rnd pick LA 2015 (2018 unprotected LA pick)
4)GS- Bucks
GS: Bogut
Bucks: M ellis

5) Other trade

10 Nov 2017 13:44:06
The Melo trade was pretty bad. Mozgov (who was flipped for 2 firsts later), Gallinari (good starter), Chandler ( good Starter), Felton (solid starter at the time), a 1st and 2 2nds.

Melo was a legit top 10 player at the time, but the Knick's roster was to depleted after the trade to really ever compete at a high level and I can't imagine there was another offer any where near that.

10 Nov 2017 14:10:31
Got to be the Mo Will for Boom Dizz and Kyrie deal.

10 Nov 2017 14:11:53
All good choices for bad deals but, I think if you asked "Media Anointed Genius" Sam Presti in OKC for a do-over, he'd find a way to hang onto James Harden. That team was genuinely scary with all 3 of those guys there.

10 Nov 2017 14:20:40
Maybe this trade was even worse than the Boston trade

Nets: D Williams
Utah: Favors+ D Harris+ 1rnd pick 11 (draft Kanter with 4rd pick, K Thompson, K Leonard and J Butler available) + 1rnd pick Golden state 2013 ( draft Dieng with the 21 pick, Gobert available) . + Cash

Or this one

Nets: G Wallace
Portland: Okur+ 1rnd pick ( D Lillard)


All trades on this forum looks good, if you look to the Nets trades :-)

10 Nov 2017 14:57:24
Golden State trading #3 pick (Kevin Mchale) and Robert Parish for the #1 pick (Joe Barry Carroll)

10 Nov 2017 14:59:18
Charlotte Hornets trading Kobe Bryant to the Lakers for Vlade Divac and bunch of crap.

10 Nov 2017 16:33:39
@ Yumbo, since 2010.

10 Nov 2017 18:47:29
Phoenix gets Marcus Thornton and the Cavs 2016 1st rounder (Skal Labissiere moved in a package for the Chriss pick)

Boston gets Thomas.

On the flip side of the Ainge coin, moving Perkins for Green.

10 Nov 2017 19:38:32
Gerald Wallace for the pick that became Lillard does stick out as pretty terrible.

10 Nov 2017 21:06:31
Forgot to mention that the two players from 1st rounder and pick swap were Jamal Murray and Saric. So both ended up as lottery picks.

10 Nov 2017 23:57:44
Mark Cuban would say rondo deal was a nightmare.

11 Nov 2017 02:43:01
James Harden trade was worse. and the mo will for Davis is close. 3rd choice is the love for Wiggins because the cavs could did Better or kept him.

11 Nov 2017 04:07:32
Love for Wiggins wasn't bad for the Cavs. Wiggins is a worse offensive player, rebounder, passer, and defender. Outside of being younger and more athletic, Wiggins reeally doesn't have anything on Love.

11 Nov 2017 07:00:32
I take Butler or George or cousins other then love because I believe Wiggins is better then what the bulls, pacers and kings gave up.

11 Nov 2017 14:11:56
Sixers get:Andrew Bynum (remember him? ) for Igoudala, Vucevic, Harkless, and a first round pick. Bynum never saw the floor for the sixers.

11 Nov 2017 17:05:47
@Jvoug1

That was a crazy trade indeed.

Funny that the Magic won that trade :-) :-) :-)

12 Nov 2017 00:33:28
Magic won that trade big time. And the same trade set the sixers back for years.

13 Nov 2017 13:41:09
Ohioboy, yeah, but you're talking about trades that happened 3 years, 3 finals appearance and a Championship after the fact. The Cavs went out and got the best player available for Wiggins and even though the fit has never been perfect, Love has given them more than Wiggins would have to this point.

09 Nov 2017 15:23:16
DAL-MIl:

Dallas gets: J. Parker, R. Vaughn, J. Henson
-Get a young successor for Nowitzki in Parker
-Get a young prospect in Vaughn (exp)

D. Smith Jr/ Ferrell/ Barrea
Curry/ Vaughn/ Harris
Barnes/ D. Finney-Smith/ Cleber
Parker/ Nowitzki/ Powell
Henson/ Mejri/ Whithey

MIL gets:Noel, Matthews, Mcroberts (exp)
-Get a young center that fits perfectly as their defensive anchor
-Get a solid veteran starter shooter that can spread the floor for Anteto.

Bledsoe/ Delly/ Terry
Matthews/ Brogdon/ Liggins
Middleton/ Snell/ S. Brown
Anteto/ DJ Wilson/ Teletovic
Noel/ Maker/ Mcroberts.

09 Nov 2017 18:24:39
Bucks say no,

09 Nov 2017 05:17:26
Chicago/Milwaukee/Phili

Chicago receives Okafor, Jabari and Delly

Milwaukee receives Lopez, 2019 first from Chicago, 2018 second from Phili

Phili receives Bobby Portis

09 Nov 2017 13:50:53
Not bad as long as there is some protection on the Chicago pick.

09 Nov 2017 18:08:27
Like this trade for sixers.

09 Nov 2017 18:27:48
Chi/ Phil.

Philly receives Vaughn or Dellvedova, Plus a 2nd rd. pick.

Milw. receives Okafor.

09 Nov 2017 05:06:19
Det/Phi/Mil

Detroit receives Okafor, Jabari Parker, Amir Johnson

Phili receives Dellavedova, second from Detroit

Milwaukee receives Andre Drummond

09 Nov 2017 05:28:48
bucks got to give up more for their own sake, bringing in drummond’s enormous contract, they got to send henson out or they are basically choosing to pay luxury tax. and they could use more cap if they decide they wanna extend bledsoe beyond 2019.
its a decent move for detroit. parker’s future is about as up in the air as drummond’s and okafor is a nice prospect) i think detroit is wise enough to realize rebuilding is better than competing for an 8 seed (even though they let kcp walk. )
take it or leave if if i'm philly.

09 Nov 2017 08:44:23
It's a good trading idea.
Only should the Bucks trade more salary.

08 Nov 2017 21:04:18
Bucks-Cavs-Bulls

Bucks get Fyre and Portis
- more front court help

Cavs get Delly
- get a player who can play minutes

Bulls get Zizic
- move past Portis and can still deal Mirotic for bad contracts and have a youth rebuild

09 Nov 2017 02:55:42
Cavs pass. They're short on players who can play center right now and that leaves them with only Love on the roster until Thompson comes back. They'll go to an all small line up for stretches, but not having any other bigs isn't going to work. Plus once IT comes back (the latest talk is he's only weeks away), I don't see Delly really having a place in the line up. His defense is solid, shooting and decision making is solid, but he doesn't have the raw ability IT or Rose have on the offensive end and I don't see him taking many minutes at sg over guys like JR, Korver, Wade or even Shumpert (who's length makes him a more versatile defender than Delly) . Plus, Zizic should develop into atleast a solid rotation Big and has a chance to one day be a starting level guy. There is no point for the Cavs to give up any of their young assets unless they get something significantl in return.

08 Nov 2017 17:48:25
Suns - 76ers

Suns get Okafor and 2 best second round picks 2018

76ers get A. Williams and Bucks 1st round pick.

Suns get two picks in the 30ies this year instead of one in the mid 20ies in 2020 in addition to the chance of turning Okafor around. I don't expect the Bucks to miss the playoffs in the next years.

Philly does it because they have so many 2nd rounders.

08 Nov 2017 17:55:29
Okafor isn't worth a 1st round pick.

08 Nov 2017 18:10:01
Suns will hold on to the Bucks first, unless it's to move it in a bigger salary dump (ie. Chandler) or for a better player than Okafor.

08 Nov 2017 17:38:39
Bucks / Thunder

Bucks get S. Adams

Thunder get M. Dellavedova, J. Henson and J. Parker

I know this is a stretch but I know the bucks are going to look for a big man, it would be sweet if this happened. Looking for feed back!

08 Nov 2017 18:11:41
Horrible for Thunder. Delly is overpriced, Henson is passable at best, and who knows what/ when you'll get anything out of Parker.

08 Nov 2017 18:16:33
adams and russ have amazing chemistry, i wouldn't jump to break that up if i was them.

08 Nov 2017 18:32:45
What big man is available that could be traded for to help fuel the bucks run for a price that makes sense?

08 Nov 2017 21:20:46
they could probably get brook lopez for nothing if they take deng. nerlens noel could be had for cheap. vucevic once orlando realizes they aren't actually a playoff team. hernangomez or o’quinn since the knicks have too many centers. deandre jordan has a po this summer, clips could try to salvage value if they think he won't come back. whiteside, but miami would prob want too much in return.

08 Nov 2017 22:06:56
Bucks could send R. Vaughn and 1-2 2nd rd. picks to the 76ers for Okafor.

09 Nov 2017 08:56:35
The Bucks should try to get Whiteside.

Parker+ Teletovic (or Henson) +a draft pick

This is a scary team
C:Whiteside
PF: Maker
SF:Giannis
SG: Brogdon
PG: Bledsoe.

 
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