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27 Jun 2017 04:28:44
Knicks get Rubio Deng
Wolves get Melo
Lakers get Aldrich Thomas

U add Lowry and have to think contender.

Lakers save money

Knicks take on 2 mil in payroll to have complete roster and salvage the season.

27 Jun 2017 05:21:51
That trade doesn't seem worth it for the Knicks. If they're taking on Deng they should get more than Rubio and they should focus on young talent rather than marginal starters like Rubio who have little upside.

27 Jun 2017 03:43:49
Blazers trade Harkless, Crabbe
Blazers get Noah, Oubre

Knicks trade Anthony, Noah, O'Quinn
Knicks get Harkless, Crabbe, Mahinmi, Smith

Wizards trade Oubre, Mahinmi, Smith
Wizards get Anthony, O'Quinn

Blazers:
Lillard/Napier
McCollum/Turner/Connaughton
Oubre/Aminu
Collins/Vonleh/Leonard/Swanigan
Nurkic/Noah/Davis
- cap relief: Noah&Oubre = ~20m, Crabbe&Harkless = ~30m, add needed backup C who brins veteran experience and defense


Knicks:
Nkilitina/
Lee/Crabbe/Dotson
Harkless/Thomas/Kuzminskas
Porzingis/Smith
Hernangomez/Mahnimi
- fresh start, much different team to last season roster

Wizards:
Wall/Frazier/Satoransky
Beal/Bogdanovic
O.Porter/Anthony
Anthony/Morris
Gortat/O'Quinn
- pair Wall+Beal with Anthony and u have a legit Big 3, Wall makes everybody around him better even Anthony
- Frazier, Bogdanovic, Morris and O'Quinn already solid bench player, add some veterans
-> championship contender from day 1

27 Jun 2017 05:02:06
From the Blazers stand point you would need to take Noah out of the deal and NY would need to throw in a mix of future picks (aleast one 1st rounder) to get the upside of Harkless (with a great contract) and the upside of Crabbe (not a great contract) .

27 Jun 2017 00:04:57
Pacers-Nuggets-Cavs-Knicks

Pacers - Murray/Mudiay, Harris, 2018 Knicks 1st
Nuggets - Love, Ellis, 2018 Knicks 2nd, 2021 Cavs 1st
Cavs - George and Anthony
Knicks - Thad Young, Jefferson, 2018 Nuggets First, 2021 Cavs 1st

27 Jun 2017 00:40:34
Why do Knicks give up lotto pick With crap return? freakin cavs fan desperate BC LeBron is leaving again next yr. Pacers said no already. Give up.

27 Jun 2017 01:02:49
I don't see New York giving up the pick, but I also don't see them finding a trade for Melo. He's going to get bought out eventually. It'll be almost impossible to find a trade for Melo without taking back a bad contract.

27 Jun 2017 01:46:47
Ya don't include Knicks who don't make sense in this trade and Cavs are far from being able to take on Melo's contract. Shizzee75 Cavs shouldn't give up on dealing for George. Cavs are desperate for improvements and Pacers are desperate to deal George before he leaves for nothing. I'm not saying Cavs will definitely get him but it would be foolish for Cavs to not push until he is dealt to another team.

27 Jun 2017 05:07:36
A knicks fan making fun of a Cavs fan's trade proposal?

26 Jun 2017 04:57:31
Celtics off season

Release/cut/dont sign
=Zeller,Green, Olynyk, Johnson

Sign Gordon Hayward

Trade (after signing)

Indy:Paul George (With extension as reported by Adam Kauffman)

Boston: Bradley, Crowder, Mickey, Jackson, 2018/19 La/Kings 1st rounder, 2018 Boston 1st (top 3 protected) 2019 La Clippers 1st, 2018 2nd rounder, 2019 2nd rounder, 2020 2nd rounder.

C's Starting lineup (with overseas players coming over.

Pg-Thomas/Rozier/ Allen
Sg-Hayward/Smart/Nader
Sf-Brown/Tatum/Ojeleye
PF- George/Yabusele
C-Horford/Zizic

Why?

Boston gets the super team to push Cleveland and maybe challenge the Warriors. They cash in most of their assets but, they keep the 2018 Brooklyn pick and they are both very young and are able to contend for a long time.

Indy who doesn't have much leverage gets a great haul. 3 1st round picks, 3 2nd round picks, Two low prospects, Crowder who has an amazing contract and Bradley all nba defender. Perfect rebuild starter.

26 Jun 2017 13:56:38
I don't hate that trade for the Celtics. I'm still not sure how a Hayward/ George addition works, as they really would need another big man. You have a solid team at that point, but I think they need a true center on the roster in addition to Zizic, or at least a starting caliber PF. They could probably pull someone in on the cheap if they had that team put together though.

IT/ Smart/ Rozier
George/ Brown
Hayward/ Tatum/ Ojeleye/ Nader
Horford/ Yabusele
F/ A C or PF/ Zizic


That's a really young bench, and I'm not sure exactly what to make of it, but it is also one that gives you five or six guys who can play two or more positions. Stevens does love that versatility.

26 Jun 2017 15:09:26
That sounds good to me too, maybr Bogut on a veterans minimum?

26 Jun 2017 16:21:02
Bogut, when healthy, is exactly what the Celtics needed this year. He's likely what they need next year as well, but I have a feeling he stays in Cleveland. If he wanted to play in Boston, he would have done that post buy out this season.

26 Jun 2017 04:14:19
BUCKS-RAPTORS-KNICKS

to BUCKS - K.Porzingis + C.Lee

M.Brogdon-M.Delly-G.Payton II
C.Lee-R.Vaughn
G.Antetokounmpo-T.Snell
K.Porzingis-M.Teletovic
J.Henson-S.Hawes

to RAPTORS - K.Middleton + J.Parker + rights to D.Wilson (17th pick) + 2018 2nd round pick MIL
let Lowry walk

C.Joseph-D.Wright
K.Middleton-N.Powell
D.Carroll-B.Caboclo
J.Parker-P.Siakam-D.Wilson
J.Valanciunas-L.Noguierra

to KNICKS - D.Derozan + T.Maker + G.Monroe

F.Nkitilina-R.Baker
D.Derozan-J.Holiday
C.Anthony-L.Thomas
T.Maker-K.Oquinn
W.Hernangomez-G.Monroe-J.Noah

26 Jun 2017 04:54:08
Bucks are giving up a bunch of solid talent but I think the superstar potential of Porzingis makes it worth it especially since they clear some cap space that can be used to fill the holes.

I think that is a good return on Derozan but if I was Raptors I'd try to keep Lowry and Ibaka if possible since who knows when Parker will be back and at what level and I think they'd still be pretty good with Middleton a better defender and 3pt shooter than Derozan.

For the Knicks I'm not a fan of the return. Derozan is a very good player but I much rather have the youth and untapped potential of Porzingis who also compliments Melo better (not sure how well Derozan and Melo would mesh) . Maker is a solid prospect who has shown flashes and Monroe is a quality backup big but if I were Knicks I'd prefer sticking with Porzingis.

26 Jun 2017 05:26:07
I hate that for the Bucks. They give away most of their team. It's not worth it.

26 Jun 2017 13:03:23
Parker, Monroe, and Vaughn, (Or Henson, or Teletovic) for Porzingis.

27 Jun 2017 01:34:07
Your kidding right? Bucks giving up half our team for that? I mean, i love the unicorn, and lee is really good (although getting old) . But we get that and were giving up parker, money middleton, rookie of year brogdan, our 1st pick dj wilson (who i really like), our 1st rd pick last yr in maker who came on strong down the stretch, delly, monroe (was amazing last yr off the bench), gary peyton, and a 2nd rd pick.
Haha, got to be one of the stupidest trades i have seen on here in awhile.

Maybe parker, Henson, and delly for the unicorn.
Or parker, vaughn, and delly for unicorn.
But that trade you made up is the most rediculous trade suggestion i have seen in awhile. Lol.

25 Jun 2017 22:53:22
Knicks get R.Anderson Harkless Beverly McRoberts
Heat get Melo Noah
Rockets get Bosh Turner Leonard
Blazers get Gordon Ellington O'Quinn

Heat give up no prospects or picks for Melo by taking Noah salary which will be the only big behind Melo and Whiteside under contract.

Blazers cut payroll add more shooter

Rockets cut future payroll risk 1yr on Bosh

Knicks get descent for Melo and O'Quinn

26 Jun 2017 01:57:07
Bosh was bought out.

26 Jun 2017 03:16:13
Portland has zero interest in that return of low impact junk even in salary dump (Turner and Leonard) and particularly not for big upside Harkless. Bosh is not part of Miami and therefore can't be involved in any trade as per the May 24 agreement. And Houston would be offended by this proposal.

25 Jun 2017 18:47:43
Suns get Porzingis Hernangomez Noah Thomas
Knicks get Anderson Jackson Beverly
Rockets get Knight Chandler

Hornets get Melo
Knicks get Williams


Beverly/Ntilikina/Jaramaz
Lee/Dotson/Randle
Jackson/MKG
Williams/Hayes
Anderson/O'Quinn/Plumlee

25 Jun 2017 19:57:27
No from rockets. They get worse and don't clear much cap space. Knicks say no too I'd need 2 high caliber prospects to deal Porzinigs.

In second trade Hornets don't have the cap space to take Melo's contract.

25 Jun 2017 20:03:28
I added mkg also as u can tell in on roster.

25 Jun 2017 14:11:58
Clippers - Knicks

Clippers gets:
Anthony
O'Quinn
2nd round pick

Knicks gets:
Crawford
W. Johnson
B. Johnson
Stone
2021 1st round pick (top 3 protected)
2023 1st round pick (top 20 protected)

25 Jun 2017 14:28:05
It's a fair trade for the Knicks. I think one first rounder is enough from the Clippers side.

25 Jun 2017 15:34:14
Clips have nowhere enough cap space to make this move without renouncing both Paul and Griffin. Knicks won't accept that either, they are not going to want Crawford in the deal. I would suggest Rivers instead of Crawford, and one less first.

25 Jun 2017 17:42:47
Paul and Griffin both opted out, they are unrestricted free agents.

25 Jun 2017 22:34:40
take both the picks out of the deal. O'Quinn is dumpage fodder and C. Anthony is a step backwards if your goal is to build a winning team.

25 Jun 2017 07:44:36
New York Knicks Offseason

Trade Kristaps Porzingis and Courtney Lee to Wizards for Markeiff Morris and Bradley Beal


Trade Melo and Joakim noah to LA Clippers for DeAndre Jordan and Jamal Crawford


Sign
Rudy Gay 3 yr 32 mill
Jrue Holiday 4 yr max
PJ Tucker 3 yr 20 mill


2017/18 lineup

Jrue Holiday/Frank Nkilita
Bradley Beal/Jamal Crawford
Rudy Gay/PJ Tucker
Markeiff Morris/Kyle O Quinn
DeAndre Jordan/Willy Hernangomez

25 Jun 2017 11:47:26
I'm sure there are high-level meetings going on in the Clippers front office right now to determine how they can take acquire over-the-hill players who have onerous contracts -- moves that will make it impossible for them to keep Chris Paul and Blake Griffin.

25 Jun 2017 15:38:49
Or they can keep a guy who's close to going over the hill already in Griffin.

P. S. - Melo for Bradley and Tatum.

25 Jun 2017 05:55:15
Milwaukee Bucks/New York Knicks

Bucks receive: Krisptaps Porzingis and Joakim Noah
Knicks receive: Jabari Parker, Thon Maker, Malcolm Brogdon, and Greg Monroe

I'm surprised this trade hasn't been suggested yet! Pairing the soon to be 22-year-old Porzingis with the 22-year old Giannis Antetokounmpo would undoubtedly provide the Bucks with one of the most exciting duos in the league. The length and versatility of these two players would make them extremely hard to guard. The team would need some more talent around them but I'm sure the combination of age and talent these two possess would make playing in Milwaukee that much more bearable for for various soon to be free agents.

25 Jun 2017 06:42:53
Im a knicks fan and absolutely love zingas but if knicks were offered this trade it would be very hard to not atleast consider it.

25 Jun 2017 22:08:13
Trade Porzingis for Parker, Monroe, Vaughn or Henson,

Milwaukee keeps Brogdan, and Maker

NY keeps Noah!

24 Jun 2017 18:56:05
Bulls - Knicks -Thunder

Bulls gets:
Lee
O'Quinn
2018 2nd back (from Thunder)
Future 2nd (Thunder)

Knicks gets:
Wade

Thunder gets:
Grant

24 Jun 2017 19:35:50
I think the Thunder only give up one second for Grant, but other than that it looks good.

24 Jun 2017 15:20:19
NYK - HOU - UTAH

NYK get: Derrick Favors and Dante Exum

pg. Exum/ Nitiklina
sg. Lee
sf. Kuzminskas
pf. Porzinigis
c. Favors/ Hernangomez

HOU get: Carmelo Anthony
Sign: Serge Ibaka

pg. Gordon
sg. Harden
sf. Anthony
pf. Griffin
c. Capela

UTAH get: Ryan Anderson and Patrick Beverly

Hayward leaves in FA.

pg. Beverly
sg. Hood/ Mithcell
sf. Ingles
pf. Anderson
c. Gobert

24 Jun 2017 15:49:50
If Phil Jackson can get Favors and Exum for Anthony, they should name the Executive the Year award after him and retire the trophy.
The return is ridiculous, and the only way to get Anthony to go to Salt Lake City is with a unmarked van and large amount of duct tape.

24 Jun 2017 20:15:43
Ok supertroll.

24 Jun 2017 05:32:36
Min-Bos-Ind

If Boston can convince George to sign an extension:

Boston
Trades: LA/Sac Pick, Tatum, Crowder
Receives: George

Sign Hayward, Gibson, Olynyk

Thomas/Smart
Hayward/Bradley
George/Brown
Gibson/Yabusele
Horford/Olynyk

Minnesota
Trades: Rubio
Recieves: Crowder

Sign: Lowry, Miles

Lowry/Jones
Wiggins/Miles
Butler/Crowder
Dieng/Bjelica
Townes/Patton

Indiana
Trades: George
Recieve: Tatum, Rubio, La/Sac Pick

Begin rebuild around Tatum with a great pick in either 2018 or 2019.

24 Jun 2017 06:17:54
Descent.

24 Jun 2017 15:50:54
I don't get why everyone wants Boston to trade for George when his is 100000% a rental and is just looking ahead to next offseason and not focused on winning now with whatever team he is on. I would much rather have Tatum Crowder and the pick (s) we got from Philly than a rental player that doesn't even want to be there. I am one that loves youth and developing players and I strongly believe that one day Tatum will become a player on PG13's level also if you can get that while he is one a nice affordable deal why would you trade that away along with another player on a team friendly deal in Crowder and a potential top 5 pick for a guy that you have no shot at resigning. I mean if he promises to sign an extension I am all for this trade but we know that's not going to happen so I would much rather have the Celtics be quiet on the trade front this offseason and let guys like Zeller and Green go and free up enough money to get Heyward and have a lineup of IT Bradley Hayward Crowder and Horford with Smart Brown Taytum Olynyk Rozier and some other guys coming off the bench.

24 Jun 2017 16:57:12
CS13, I started the post by saying this only works if george agrees to an extension. Obviously the Celtics aren't making this trade if there is even the smallest chance of George leaving next offseason. George said he prefers LA, but I think he just wants to be on a contender and not in Indiana. He can get that in Boston. Reports are saying that if Hayward signs with Boston, George will agree to an extension so the Celtics could trade for him. That is absolutely the best case for Boston. Get Hayward and George in their primes and keep Brown and still have brooklyns pick next year to build through the draft.

24 Jun 2017 21:59:22
I guess I missed that part of the post. And I would need PG13 to put his promise in writing so that way if we do get Heyward and give up the young assists for him that we will get him for multiple years. I feel like people are saying that George is better than Tatum and Crowder and that's what it would take to get him, and I agree but after this season if we make this trade we will probably not have George and we won't have Tatum and Crowder either so I don't think George is worth it. I think we should wait till he is a FA and then make a push for him to see if he really wants to come here.

23 Jun 2017 18:04:53
Sixers-Knicks

Sixers get Noah Porzingis
Knicks get the 2 remaining of the Sixers/ Lakers/ Kings pick (whichever don't convey w no protections), Okafor, Anderson, rights to Pasecnicks

Sixers trade 2 future seconds and Stauskas for Danny Green (Spurs looking to shed salary)

Sign Taj Gibson, Tony Allen, and Vince Carter as vets to teach the young roster

Fultz/ McConnel
Green/ Allen/ TLC
Simmons/ Covington/ Carter
Porzingis/ Saric/ Gibson
Embiid/ Noah/ Holmes

23 Jun 2017 18:48:24
That will never get sixers Porzingis.

23 Jun 2017 21:08:59
Not enough.

23 Jun 2017 21:33:27
If I'm the Sixers, and I'm looking to get someone of Porzingis' caliber, I think I'd go SG or SF instead of PF. You already have Saric if you're high on him, and I think Simmons is probably best suited to bulk up a bit and play at PF. He can shoot a little from outside (right now a very little), but does most of his damage on drives and with his passing. I see him eventually turning into a very rich man's Diaw, which should pair very well with Embiid and Fultz. He can be a post pivot guy in an old school offense, or he can facilitate from the top of the key as Al Horford did a lot in the Boston series against Washington. Your stats are likely to come from the other two guys, while Simmons does a lot of the little things you won't see in a newspaper.

23 Jun 2017 14:34:16
Knicks and raptors

Raptors trade JV, Powell and two first round picks


Knick trade prozingis.


Raptors Starters

Resign Lowry Ibaka and tucker

Lowry
DeRozan
Tucker
Prozingis
Ibaka

Role players
Joesph
Wright
Carroll
OG anunoby when ready
Sign Amir for vet min
Siakam poetle and Bebe.
Sign heslip for a shooter

23 Jun 2017 15:52:16
If Knicks are foolish enough to deal Porzingis I think they would be at least wise enough to get young assets not older players who Porzingis is already better than and draft picks that won't be too valuable since Raptors should be a playoff team for forseeable future.

Raptors are reportedly looking to deal Valanciunas. Not sure what they are looking for but maybe putting a similar offer together for Jordan if Paul and Griffin leaves would be a wise move.

23 Jun 2017 16:05:06
They aren't resigning Ibaka.

23 Jun 2017 07:55:57
Spurs Cavaliers NYK

Spurs receive
Thompson
Smith
Shumpert
2019 second round pick (Cavs)

Knicks receive
Frye
Felder
Cedi Osman
2020 second round pick (Cavs)

Cavs receive
Aldridge
Green
Anthony

23 Jun 2017 12:48:06
Not really a fan of this trade for any of the teams. Aldridge reportedly wants out of SA since they aren't using him right when the reality is he is aging and not as good as he used to be. Spurs would be wise to shop him but I think what they'd primarily want in dealing him would be cap relief so they could pursue a top FA. They don't get this in the trade nor do they get a #2 offensive option to replace Aldridge's scoring which would make Kawhi's life that much more difficult.

This may be the best Knicks can hope for with Melo (taking back minimal salary) but I don't like it since he is still a prolific scorer and not the problem in NY. The Knicks need to address the true issue which is Phil Jackson who for some reason is trying to get rid of all their talent in Melo and Porzingis.

The Cavs can't do this for salary reasons but I don't like it for basketball reasons. Getting Green would be great but I'd hate to add Aldridge and Anthony to that roster. Both are very good players but only on the offensive end which isn't where Cavs need help and they certainly don't need both if they are keeping Love. Cavs also got dominated on the boards against Warriors and lose their best rebounder in Thompson who is also a great pick and roll defender. Aldridge has always been extremely soft player on the interior and would be an ill fit at center (which he'd be forced to play in this scenario) and Melo would probably be just a guy who gets you buckets off the bench.

24 Jun 2017 06:27:01
Stop your corny.

23 Jun 2017 07:49:27
MIN-DEN-NYK

MIN : K.Porzingis + W.Chandler + J.Noah

PG : R.Rubio-T.Jones
SG : J.Butler-FA
SF : W.Chandler-O.Casspi
PF : K.Porzingis-J.Patton
CE : K.Towns-J.Noah-C.Aldrich

DEN : S.Muhammad (st) + 2020 MIN 1st round pick

NYK : A.Wiggins + K.Faried + 2018 1st round pick MIN + 2nd round pick MIN + G.Dieng

PG : F.Nkitilina-R.Baker
SG : A.Wiggins-C.Lee
SF : C.Anthony-L.Thomas
PF : K.Faried-G.Dieng
CE : W.Hernangomez-K.Oquinn

23 Jun 2017 12:57:25
Minnesota has made one great big move already and I think this one would help even more. The one downside of their current team is lack of shooting. Adding Porzingis and Chandler helps with this. Wiggins is good but not at level of Porzingis who is a unique talent that if paired with Towns would be an utterly unfair duo that no team would be able to matchup against with two 7 footers who can step out to 3pt line and kill you on both ends of the court. Twolves don't have to do this trade and they'd be alright without it (could use cap space to add some additional talent) but I think that duo or Porzingis and KAT would be a game-changer and a move that could end this "small-ball era" and break the league in a few years.

For the Knicks I think they'd be foolish to move Porzingis and although Wiggins is a good center piece, they add two soid bigs in Faried and Dieng and clear Noah's contract I don't like it for them.

Don't like it for Denver either. That pick is not only far off but would be a late first likely and Muhammad doesn't give you much.

23 Jun 2017 13:07:38
2018 Wolves pick is going to the Hawks, assuming they make the playoffs.

23 Jun 2017 14:26:45
I don't know if Denver is getting enough, but the bones of the trade aren't bad.

If NY is dead set on getting rid of Porzingis, this is a pretty decent haul, but I think I'd like to see Wiggins with a year playing and training with Butler under his belt before I move him if I'm Minny. He trained with Jaylen Brown before this season, and his all around game was a ton better than I think anyone in Boston was expecting. If Wiggins' mental game and competitive nature is in that same ballpark, I think he could make a great leap.

Porzingis is the ideal player type to set up next to KAT, but they might be able to find a similar style player in free agency like Ibaka. Either way, Minny is exciting now.

24 Jun 2017 06:28:48
Interesting but no from ny.

22 Jun 2017 23:29:19
Knicks: Batum
charlotte: C Anthony+ D Green
Spurs: Kaminski+ Sessions

Charlotte signs Rondo and Reddick

C: D Howard/Zeller
PF:C Anthony/ M Williams
SF: D Green/ MKG
SG: Reddick/ Lamb
Pg: Walker/Rondo

23 Jun 2017 11:36:27
Love that trade for the Knicks, but Charlotte takes it on the chin. Charlotte would be better off making the FA signings and calling it a day. Batum is the best player in the deal by far.

23 Jun 2017 14:59:23
I don't hate it for Charlotte. I know you have a deep seeded hate for Melo, but he's still a very productive player in the right situation. Charlotte very well could be that situation. They can put him at the 4 next to Howard who is a fantastic complement to his game, or they could go huge and slide him to the 3 with Howard and Aldrich. With Monk and Bacon now in the fold, they have no lack of scoring options on the wing and in the backcourt, while they have a couple of big bodies to man the boards.

22 Jun 2017 22:22:56
Twolves-Bulls-Knicks


Twolves get Jimmy Butler, #38 pick (via Bulls), #44 pick (via Knicks), Kyle O'Quinn, and M. Kuzminskas
•Draft:
38- Alec Peters
44- Thomas Bryant
-Sign Jrue Holiday 3yr 70m
-Sign Justin Holiday 2yr 20m
Lineup:
PG: Holiday, Dunn, Jones
SG: LaVine, Holiday
SF: Butler, Kuzminskas, Peters
PF: Dieng, Bjelica
C: Towns, O'Quinn, Bryant


Bulls get Andrew Wiggins and #7 pick


Knicks get Ricky Rubio and Cole Aldrich.

23 Jun 2017 00:38:22
I wouldn't give Chicago Wiggins and no 7 pick without getting pick 16 back as well.

And Wolves don't want Knicks junk for Rubio.

23 Jun 2017 00:51:00
Lavine, Dunn, and the 7th for Butler just happened. Great trade for Minnesota.

22 Jun 2017 20:49:07
Knicks asking for #3, 2018 Brooklyn pick, Crowder, Brown for Porzingis

22 Jun 2017 20:55:47
Still wouldn't trade porzingus for this.

22 Jun 2017 21:57:53
That's ok, Boston won't trade that for Porzingis.

 
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