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22 Feb 2019 19:08:35
Knicks Offseason

Trade

Pelicans get Lance Thomas (Salary Reasons/Waive) Kevin Knox, Dennis Smith Jr, Frank Ntilikina, Mitchell Robinson, Alonso Trier, and the #1 Overall Pick

Knicks get Anthony Davis


Free Agency

Sign Kevin Durant to the Max

Sign Kyrie Irving to the Max


New York has their Big 3. Fill in the roster with savy veterans who are chasing a ring and will take the veteran's minimum like the Heat did.

22 Feb 2019 23:40:44
I don't think Boston or la can top that zion would body Tatum and kuz/ Ingram. La would have to do a 4 team trade involved lbj to top that.

21 Feb 2019 12:42:06
If NY fails at Durant, does Irving still come?

Knicks get Irving
Celtics get Ntilikina DSJ Trier Thomas

Harris 4yr 110 mil
Jordan Milsap Ross 3yr 51 mil
Vet min Stephenson and Beverly

Irving/Beverly/Allen
Ross/Stephenson/Dotson
Harris/Knox/C.Johnson-51
Milsap/Williamson/Kornet
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

21 Feb 2019 13:55:15
Kyrie disagree agent. Why are Knicks trading for him?

21 Feb 2019 15:46:23
What use could Boston possibly have for four players on a Knicks team that wins two games a month?

21 Feb 2019 16:52:22
Knox and Mudiay instead of Nkilitina and Thomas would at least seem like you were serious.

21 Feb 2019 17:33:38
You don't think two good young guards are enough for a UFA? Side note, why would the Knicks give up young assets for someone they could just sign outright?

21 Feb 2019 19:16:55
Bmiller- one young guard and a bust.

21 Feb 2019 20:38:14
Eh, Trier is an ok rookie too. Still, I don't see why the Knicks would give up youth for Irving. Just sign him, then trade the other guys for other assets if you want.

21 Feb 2019 21:26:40
haha what makes you think beverly will take the minimum? the clippers already offered him a good extension and he turned it down. he will at least get MLE.

21 Feb 2019 22:12:56
Yeah, just go sign top tier free agents to a bottom 3 team. No problem.

21 Feb 2019 23:45:44
He has player opt. Knicks need cap flexibilty. Getting Frank and Dennis. Thomas ccontract not fully guarenteed. Trier is not guarenteed.
This assure Irving additional
35 mil yr.

22 Feb 2019 08:19:30
This is simple. Knicks brass has been hoarding youth and picks, this leadership group finally appreciates that both are important. To deal a bunch of them to pick up a UFA that has hinted previously that he may be interested in playing in NY makes no sense.

If the youth is being moved, it will be for a guy still under contract, ie. AD. Sure, Kyrie gets more money potentially in a S&T, but if that’s the only way he’ll come, either give up less than the above or move on to the next FA down the list.

22 Feb 2019 18:55:09
If Irving would agree to opt in and this trade happens it would help ny by alot. They would maximize their cap for 2 superstars and get a superstar. Plus have there first round pick.

17 Feb 2019 19:15:36
Got to have plan B, If knicks fail to land Williamson (Cleveland), Durant Resign and Irving Cousins sign (Lakers) Leonard (Clippers). Thompson Walker Vucevic resign. Butler and Harris resign

After Knicks draft Morant 2nd, trade DSJ to Celtics for 18th, Ntilikina 51 to Hawks for 35 43 46. Knox for Langford

Add 6 very good vets
Green Ariza Milsap Jordan Gay Young
2 yr 28 mil.

Morant-2/Allen/Howard-43
Green/Langford-10/Dotson
Ariza/Gay/Paschall-35
Milsap/Young/Washington-46
Jordan/Robinson/Fernando-18

18 Feb 2019 09:01:07
I would keep Knox over Langford.

18 Feb 2019 19:14:39
Your free agency predictions seem accurate to me except Kyrie. He would look like such an idiot going to LA. He cried his way out of Cleveland because he wanted to be the man, and gave up another trip to finals with Cleveland. 2 years later he is going to run back to LeBron, no way. He's not going to NY with Durant either like rumors are saying. He would be Durant's side kick there. He will stay in Boston and AD will join him. He will be AD's side kick, but since he was there 1st he can say AD came to play beside him.

18 Feb 2019 23:01:46
Nick go celtics 🤣.

16 Feb 2019 18:42:30
How the Clippers Get AD (Godfather Offer)

Flip Lou Williams to IND, CHA, or MIN for a future first

Flip Montrezl Harrell to MIN, SAC, DEN for a future first

Trade SGA/Robinson/Shamet/6 First Round Picks (Rights to their '19 First, '20 First from PHI, '21 First from MIA, '22 First from LAC, Future First from Lou Williams trade, Future First from Harrell trade) for AD

How does this compare with the NYK and BOS packages?

This gives the Pelicans the equivalent of 9 first round picks plus close to $20 million in immediate savings due to the difference in salaries.

If the Clippers can dump Gallinari's contract either with Lou Williams, through a possible Kawhi (S&T) with the Raptors or to another team, the Clippers try to pair AD with Kawhi and KD along with Zubac's small cap hold. They fill the rest of the roster with the room exception (point guard), second round picks and ring chasers.

16 Feb 2019 23:31:03
Its ambitious to say the least. I actually like this for Pels because it creates a Trust the Process But also it puts AD in LA but not with the Tamperers.

17 Feb 2019 01:59:52
Think you can only trade 4 first per trade.

17 Feb 2019 04:57:52
If Harrell gets a first in trade other GM should be fired.

17 Feb 2019 13:49:07
I think New Orleans is looking for 3 things to trade AD.

1. "Proven" young talent.
2. Draft picks
3. Salary cap relief (most likely salary dumping Hill's contract) .

The Clippers young talent is not proven and the Clips would lose their max salary slot in order to provide significant salary cap relief to New Orleans.

17 Feb 2019 16:01:21
Expiring S. Hill in a trade involving AD? Wouldn't that mean less return for the rebuilding pelicans? I don't think S. Hill $ will be required to make the salaries work unless Wall is the trade target.

17 Feb 2019 18:31:13
However, getting someone to take Hill's deal for free would open up $30 mil in cap space this off season to take on a bad deal for a pick. Unloading Hill speeds up the rebuild process.

18 Feb 2019 12:07:11
I like the offer. NO already has big men for the future in Randle and Okafor. Getting SGA and Shamet who had a great year would be big. Having set 4 positions for 7/ 8 years is great. It depends on the celtics if they offer Tatum, Brown, Smart and picks. That would be the only better offer. Picks of the Celtics aren't better than the picks of the Clippers.

18 Feb 2019 15:20:36
S. Hill for free? Is that a standing 8 count.

18 Feb 2019 19:13:10
How is Hill's deal in an AD trade going to be free for the Pels? I am not clear on what you are saying. Hill is expiring, and he can be traded to acquire a bad contract along with other players. Doesn't need to be included to drag an AD trade down. I think this is a standing 8 count for you fredman.

18 Feb 2019 21:10:50
The picks would have been useless if they hadnt canned Dell Demmps. He wouldve burned them up in bad trades.

16 Feb 2019 07:00:35
Ok just throwing this scenario out there .
What if Kyrie tells Lebron he's signing with tHe Knicks , so then Lebron wants to be traded to the Knicks ...

See the thing is Knicks don't know if Kd will sign so why not trade for Lebron.


I say something like 2019 1st , and the 2021 Dallas 1st plus Knox would do it .

That would still give the Knicks a decent amount of money left to sign a few role players like Ariza , Jordan might take a pay cut and stay.

Irving
smith jr
Ariza
James
Jordan

16 Feb 2019 13:02:26
LBJ is not following anyone to a team at this point, they either come to him or he has three more years like this in LA. This is just dumb.

17 Feb 2019 05:36:06
Two picks and Knox not enough for3 years of king James . 2019 first is a must plus gives them more cap space. plus 2021 first from ny. Ny can have prize kuzma with friendly contract

Then Leonard and cousins join la

Ball
Leonard
Ingram
Williamson
Cousins.

15 Feb 2019 15:10:52
Knicks get James and kuzma and lakers get Williamson and Robinson plus cap relief plus two first.James can retry with Knicks with different young players and cap space. Lakers retry with 2019 free agency. Sign Leonard and cousins.
Ball
Leonard
Ingram
Williamson
Cousins

15 Feb 2019 17:24:55
There is no way in hell that Lebron 8s traded to the Knicks. That is just folly. I think he would retire first. He's in LA for his family and business interests.
But, you made me laugh. Thanks for that.

15 Feb 2019 18:11:58
Lebron is King of LA. Not NY lmao sorry ✌.

15 Feb 2019 18:22:33
Knicks say no.

15 Feb 2019 18:48:58
Stop it this isn't happening but the Knicks would not say no.

15 Feb 2019 21:10:39
I think I’d only do this if I signed one or two big names before the trade if I’m the Knicks. Obviously Lebron isn’t leading a team to a championship alone, and he’s not young enough to plan a long build with. Giving up Zion and two firsts is a huge gamble without assurance you’ve got a top tier team in the league.

15 Feb 2019 22:52:37
Thrill- knick can get ad, sign kyrie and Kd.

15 Feb 2019 04:38:17
If knicks trade DSJ Ntilikina for Irving, NY can still trade for or sign big name sg or sign big name and still max durant.

1ST
If NY winning the lottery to land
williamson, than you trade knox thomas 3 future 1st for beal and max durant.

If suns wins, you trade 2021 dal 1st and Morant for Williamson, than you trade knox thomas 3 future 1st for beal and max durant. Jordan MLE. Sign Bird rights. 4 vet minimum contract and draft 2nd

Irving/Mudiay(bird right)
Beal/Trier
Durant/Dotson
Williamson/Vonleh(bird right)
Jordan/Robinson

2ND
If any body else wins you, you draft Barrett 2 options

Trade Knox Thomas 2 1st for Alridge
Trade Knox Thomas 2 1st for Green

max durant. Jordan MLE. Sign Bird rights. 4 vet minimum contract and draft 2nd

Irving/Mudiay
Barrett/Dotson/Trier
Durant/Knox
Aldridge or Green/Vonleh
Jordan/Robinson


3RD
If any body else wins, you draft Barrett. Maxed Durant. Sign Milsap and Jordan 2yr 30 mil. Sign Bird rights. 3 vet minimum contract and draft 2nd

Irving/Mudiay
Barrett/Dotson/Trier
Durant/Knox
Milsap/Vonleh
Jordan/Robinson

15 Feb 2019 08:00:56
Not sure how you are trading for Irving? S&T?

Secondly, keeping Mudiay's and Vonleah's bird rights creates cap holds that will prevent there being the cap space to sign durant. The cap hold is usually 3x what the player is making in salary this year.

Lastly, you think Millsap is opting out of $30 mil this season? Doubtful.

15 Feb 2019 09:26:31
I think Millsap's contract has a team option, pritty sure Denver isn't going to pay that, unless Millsap plays a great playoff run.

15 Feb 2019 13:35:10
Yup, my bad. Still think Denver picks it up to remain competitive with the top teams in the Western Conference.

15 Feb 2019 18:25:52
Fredman,

Irving has player opt, which he will take in that trade scenario.

Doubt milsap a bench player now get 30 mil. A yr.

The cap hold is usually 3x what the player is making in salary this year.  
Bird right give an opportunity to get 3x what they make. Knicks don't have to offer them more vet minimum. Just means they got 1st dibs. Remember depending which option happen how much cap space NY have. Mudiay has qualifier.

Just being difficult bc nobody wants to join the queens. Your team is 4th option in your own state.

15 Feb 2019 20:53:11
Maybe, shizzee, buts been a long time since we were 11-47.

And that fact alone with all that NYC has to offer makes the Knicks even more disappointing. much like the Jets, Giants, and Mets. Thank God for the Yankees and Islanders or your teams would be worse than anything in NorCal.

14 Feb 2019 16:01:47
Knicks Offseason


Sign
PG Kyrie Irving
SF Kevin Durant

Draft
PF Zion Williamson

TRADE
NYK- Bradley Beal
WSH- Dennis Smith Jr, Kevin Knox, 2021 1st (NYK), 2023 1st (DAL)


G- Kyrie Irving
G- Bradley Beal
F- Kevin Durant
F- Zion Williamson
C- Mitchell Robinson

14 Feb 2019 16:43:25
Cap issue.

14 Feb 2019 17:25:37
Now that's a very tall order. Lol.

14 Feb 2019 17:48:15
Have to match Beal’s salary to make that deal, which the Knicks don’t have the ability to do.

15 Feb 2019 01:04:20
Triangle is right because once Irving, Durant and Williamson are signed, the Knicks will only have about $5 mil left in cap space for the Beal trade.

14 Feb 2019 07:27:09
If Celtics are willing do Irving for Ntilikina and DSJ, they get good value in return and save 25 mil from resigning another max contract. They develop 2 PG behind Rozier. They can keep the remaining core with them. Remember Celtics are playing better without Irving.

That save ny 11 more mil to resign Jordan. NY pays 21 mil towards next yr vs 32mil on a max contract. Also saves NY 7 mil for loosing 2 players who won't ever be starters ahead of Irving.


Best trade for All parties

Pelicans get Ingram Thompson Henson
2019 and 2021 LA
2021 and 2023 DAL
2020 and 2022 NY
Lakers get Knight Moore Love Davis
Cavs get Knox Hart Trier
Knicks get Ball Dellavedova cavs 2019 1st

Cavs dump 73 mil in salary, avoid luxury taxes and get a 2 solid 20yr old future star at SG and SF.

Roster with 60 mil cap flexibilty
Sexton/Clarkson/Staukus
Hart/Trier/Nwaba
Knox/Osman/Adel
Nance/Chriss/Blossomgame
Cousins/E.Davis/Zizic

Pelicans 😍
Henson and Thompson can share the Davis responsibility for 1 yr as 2 others develop to replace Davis. Ingram 6 1st for Davis almost like Hershall Walker trade.

Ingram/Payton/Jackson
Holiday/Dort-39/Williams
S.Johnson/Miller/S.Hill
Randle/Henson/Hayes-9
Thompson/Okafor/Bol-13

Lakers keep Kuzma get 2 all stars and 2 shooters on perimeter around Lebron.

Knight/BHands-pickup
Moore/Stephenson/Vick-pickup
Lebron/Bullock/Norvall-pickup
Love/Kuzma/Wagner
Davis/McGee/Chandler

Trade Ball Dellavedova to magic for Augustin 10th 35th 43rd

Irving/Augustin/Allen
Barrett-3rd/Langford-10th/Dotson
Durant/Paschall-35/C.Johnson-51
Williamson-1st/Vonleh/Washington-43
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

14 Feb 2019 13:07:44
Lol. Ball and Dellavedova get the 10th pick in the draft. Yea, not happening.

Fultz got a FUTURE LATE 1st rounder. Ball is not going to get much more than that. Especially after the Fultz rrade.

14 Feb 2019 16:24:29
Horrible for NOLA Henson sucks and so does Thompson. The picks for LA would almost be very late firsts.

14 Feb 2019 16:50:13
Lakers 2019 lottery. 1 yr thompson Henson until bol and Jaxson take over. Fultz has not shown us anything that he belongs in nba, so arguement about comparison to ball is horrible. Ball and Fultz potential backcourt is interesting future. Name a better pg guard after 10 pick when Garland and Morant are already gone. Both of you loose on your arguement. 6 freakin 1st for any player including jordan is freakin awesome. dacman fredman 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 18:21:04
Much rather have Tatum Rozier and Brown with 3 picks.

14 Feb 2019 19:58:58
Cant include Brown in sign and trade when other people are involved unless the trade happen in January. Davis won't stay and listen to his father, omg dacman. Irving is not staying. Keep who wants to staying boston. Boston will still be good. Just never great. 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 21:00:55
This is Brown’s 3rd year in the league. He has a team option that will get picked up if it already hasn’t.

13 Feb 2019 19:28:47
Knicks need to be creative to resign Jordan while adding 2 super max

Knox to Grizz for Reddish

Conley/Wright/Carter
Holiday/Myles/Palmer-54
Knox/Brooks/Chandler
Jackson/Anderson/Rabb
Valanciunas/Noah/Wiley-35

Knox and Jackson great forward combo eventually will play PF and center

DSJ to Heat for Langford

Dragic/DSJ/Roach-Pickup
Richardson/Waiters/Vick-pickup
Winslow/JonesJr/Robinson
Johnson/Olynyk/Maten
Whiteside/Bam/D.Hernandez-pickup

Garland might go sooner, heat need a PG, this is fair value.


Ntilikina Trier to Hawks for Paschall-35 Washington-43 M.Howard-46

Young/Ntilikina/Garland-12
Bazemore/Huerter/Trier
Prince/Hachimura-5/Bembry
Collins/Vonleh/Spellman
Cousins/Len/Plumlee

Hawks could win 40 games next yr with solid depth.

This clear 12 mil to resign DeAndre Jordan 2yr 28mil and Irving and Durant sign 2yr 70 mil (33mil-2019 & 37mil-2020 player opt) before signing rookies contracts

Irving/Howard/Allen
Reddish/Langford/Dort-51
Durant/Paschall/Dotson
Williamson/Washington/Lawson-pickup
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

Lotto Draft
Knicks-Williamson
Suns-Morant
Cavs-Barrett
Bulls-Fernando
Hawks-Hachimura
Grizz-Reddish
Wizards- Little Wall to Pacers for Holiday 23
Magic-Okpala
Pelicans-Alexander-Walker
Detriot-Johnson
Hawks-Garland
Celtics-Culver
Pelicans-Bassey

13 Feb 2019 20:34:02
Why would Memphis do that?

This is just so bad overall.

13 Feb 2019 23:38:00
That draft has so many players going too early.

14 Feb 2019 01:44:53
Carl,

Maybe Detriot or Pelicans Culver or Johnson instead of Reddish. Knicks need a 3D sg better than Dotson.

14 Feb 2019 01:57:24
So memphis drafts a younger better shooter and trades the wing they needed for years for Knox? Lol.

14 Feb 2019 06:31:01
Fernando, Okpala, Hachimura and Alexander Walker will not be top 10 picks.

14 Feb 2019 07:52:44
Knox is 19 going to be 20 next yr shelfish.

11 Feb 2019 20:30:20
Would you have agreed for the proposal

Knicks: Smith Jr. 2 x 1st
Mavs: Porzingis

Would you have?? Probably? not? : )

But for now the near future is bright. Cry or die. It is.

Mavs will add three good pieces to become quite good! And the can do it simply as FA or small trades and they have the crazy Exception of 21m as well!

Center: Favors or Vucevic
Forward: Aminu or Leonard!
Guard: Rubio or Dunn

I would like all of them. Maybe Leonard is an amazing player but maybe Mavs should use Lucaps as their go to guys?

A:
Sign FA Center: Favors or Vucevic? What do you think?

B: Sign FA Aminu (In Por he is lost in the non scoring frontcourt, as a defender and sidekick to Lukaps he would be shin again! He and FinneyS could lock down the opponents scorer!)

C:
Sign Rubio or trade Brunson for Dunn (Dunn would be nice! Young defender and scorer, but not a playmaker, why he is not perfect fit for Chicago or others since he also not a SG! - But as the sidekick for Doncic as the playmaker he could be amazing! - Rubio as well and he has experience)

Vucevic, Powell
Porzingis, Maxi
Aminu, Finney-S
Doncic, Hardaway
Dunn, Burke

OR

Favors, Powell
Porzingis, Maxi
Leonard, Finney-S
Doncic, Hardaway
Rubio, Brunson

11 Feb 2019 22:57:58
I think a 3 d pg is better. A Beverly type.

12 Feb 2019 00:55:45
Okay, so that looks like a 6th seed in the West. nice job?

12 Feb 2019 01:59:04
Rubio not being dealt at the deadline said a lot. Aminu too. Teams generally want to re-sign expirings when kept after deadline. (starters on good teams) Robert Williams would be a good pick-up over Favors and Vucevic. Young, defensive, good size, cheap. Powell holds it down, and is under contract another season. Prying williams from BOS could be rough. Use cap around deadline for assets. Pass on Dunn CHI wants too much so far.

12 Feb 2019 02:00:37
Biggest Vucevic fan I know.

12 Feb 2019 02:11:58
Leonard left the best Texas team. He is not going back. Good luck with that team. Sloth is garbage.

12 Feb 2019 02:13:50
40 mil cap saved too. You don't have cap for Rubio and Favors. don't forget Lee :)

12 Feb 2019 10:54:26
A: Vucevic is playing for a new contract, he's a good player, but a bad defender. I think Favors is more usefull, if they can sign him for a reasonable price

B: I don't think Leonard would come, he didn't like Texas. I would sign Bullock, a good 3&D guy.

C:Dunn would be a good fit, i don't think he becomes an all star, but he's a good roll player in that team.

11 Feb 2019 16:46:46
Most likely to happen? Even if some sounds stupid or delusional :) next season

Sample

1. Kings and Cousins reunion. Cousins signs a 4yrs max contract

Pg Fox
Sg Hield
Sf Barnes
Pf Bagley
Ce Cousins

this team can make noise

2. AD stays in NOLA after resigning or he became a Clipper along with Kawhi Leonard

3. Derrick Rose back in Chicago, stays healthy and leads them back to playoffs

4. Rockets made CP3 available and someone bites (who do you think?)

5. No one goes to Lakers. LeBron declines.

6. Durant goes to Lakers :)

7. Cleveland gets number one pick again

8. Suns sign Kemba & one more big time free agent

9. Spurs trade Derozan

10. Timberwolves becomes bottom dwellers again in the West

11. Mitchell & Doncic become all stars

12. Dwayne Wade comes back

13. Kobe becomes LAL coach

14. Lillard or McCollum trade

15. NYK playoffs

11 Feb 2019 18:40:17
1. I Don't see it happening


2. The Clippers seem to have the assets to pull off a trade, that wouldn't be shocking at all. No chance he resigns in NO.

3. I could see that happening.

4. I think Houston would do anything. They run things very unemotionally. Maybe Orlando makes a bid if they re-sign Vuc? Nos sure they have what Houston would want, but they're someone that would try.

5. Feels very likely.

6. 0% chance. He wouldn't join another team to be called a coward. It's a lowly team that needs him like the Knicks, or it's back to GS.

7. AGAIN! Yep, they jump the Knicks and get Zion.

8. I don't see it. Maybe a big offer sheet player, but not an established all star.

9. The Spurs could do anything. Trading Derozan is definitely on the table.

10. This already happened? They're the third worst team in the west right now.

11. If both of these guys don't make it to 4+ all star games, I'd be surprised.

12. Nah, not after the tour he's had.

13. He'd be a hoooooorible coach. Too much of a perfectionist and too much ego to coach.

14. McCollum: 33%, Lillard: 0%

15. 2025?

11 Feb 2019 19:36:40
5 is the most likely to happen. But I am looking at "no one" as being "no star player". I can see Tyreke Evans signing a short term one year deal.

11 Feb 2019 20:43:40
Right Fredman, I was assuming no one meant no star.

11 Feb 2019 22:58:55
Rise ain't st as ying healthy.

11 Feb 2019 23:26:48
2. AD stays in NOLA after resigning or he became a Clipper along with Kawhi Leonard I wish but no to staying even w extension. Clips only hyave shot if Ainge gets weak

3. Derrick Rose back in Chicago, stays healthy and leads them back to playoffs nope

4. Rockets made CP3 available and someone bites (who do you think? ) Possible

5. No one goes to Lakers. LeBron declines. I'd love to see it but unlikely

6. Durant goes to Lakers :) maybe

7. Cleveland gets number one pick again Nope 1 outta 3 shot

8. Suns sign Kemba and one more big time free agent El Paso says Kemba

9. Spurs trade Derozan Good shot

10. Timberwolves becomes bottom dwellers again in the West Or at least close

11. Mitchell and Doncic become all stars Over time yes

12. Dwayne Wade comes back Why ask?

13. Kobe becomes LAL coach Nahhh

14. Lillard or McCollum trade L= Nope M =YEPP

15. NYK playoffs Within 3 years.

08 Feb 2019 17:16:52
I believe that if the Knicks get the 1st overall pick this summer they will pick Zion Williamson and build their team with young players.

But if they don't get it and wind up with a later selection, they will trade the pick for Anthony Davis and go after superstars.


Knicks - Pelicans

Knicks gets:
Davis

Pelicans gets:
Smith
Ntilikina
Knox
Robinson
Trier
2019 1st Knicks (#2-#5 overall)
2021 1st Mavs (Unprotected)
2023 1st Mavs (Top 10 protected)
2020 2nd Hornets
2021 2nd Hornets

08 Feb 2019 17:40:45
If the pick isn't #1, I don't think their trade package is enough for Davis. Maybe if it's #2, but not if it's all the way down at 5.

08 Feb 2019 18:36:17
I think that package will work with Barrett or Williamson for Davis. If Durant is the prize, davis should be target too regardless if williamson drafted. I don't think Durant comes without Davis. I believe that will cause Irving to sign too. They should sign Irving and Durant below the max (2 yr 1 yr guarenteed 30mil instead 35mil) this leave room for their buddy Jordan 3yr 45 mil. 6 vet minimum contracts. Trade future picks and 51 for Washington and Paschall

Irving/ Beverly/ I. Thomas
Lamb/ Stephenson/ Vick-pickup
Durant/ Beasley/ Paschall-33
Davis/ Melo/ Washington-43
Jordan/ O'Quinn/ Govan-pickup.

08 Feb 2019 23:25:34
I don’t see Durant or Irving taking the short term deals, especially discounted. Durant’s done it the last couple of years and is getting older, and Irving should want long term security with some of his injury history.

If the pick is #1, the package for AD probably does not need to include Trier or Robinson. I could see:

Knox
DSJ
2019 1st overall
2021 Knicks 1st
2021 Mavs 1st
2023 Mavs 1st

I don’t know if they would want Frank, they may prefer a couple of future 2nds instead.

Anything more than this, and I would just keep the package and take Zion #1. I know Boston feels like Tatum is the best player that anyone can offer, but I truly believe Zion will be a generational talent, and finding multi-positional two way wings is easier than finding what Zion offers.

09 Feb 2019 04:10:40
Zion frank and 3 picks for davis. Davis is expiring so not that valuable Like now. But to be on the verge of losing davis I'm taking zion who they will have for next 7 to 8 years. Prozingis could never recover and those picks will be great. No matter how bad I want Davis on Lakers zion for Davis would be no brainer for new Orleans.

08 Feb 2019 14:53:32
Knicks Offseason


TRADE

NYK- Anthony Davis

NOP- Knox, DSJ, Robinson, Trier, Ntilikina, 2019 1st, 2021 1st (NYK), 2021 1st (DAL), 2023 1st (DAL)

SIGN

PG Kyrie Irving
SF Kevin Durant


Sign vets to fill out roster. Davis Durant and Kyrie would dominate the East for years

08 Feb 2019 16:22:21
lol would they though?

08 Feb 2019 16:34:08
They'd be better off keeping all those assets and signing Kyrie and Durant to those max deals. I understand Davis said he'd consider staying in NY, but it seems all but certain he's going to LA. Why not keep Knox and (possibly) Zion? Bring back Jordan on a team friendly deal and you have a solid line up.

Kyrie/ DSJ
Ntilikina/ Trier
Durant/ Knox
Zion/ Thomas
Jordan/ Robinson

that seems more competitive, balanced, and set up for long term success than Kyrie, Davis, Durant, and whatever free agents you can get. take it from a sixers fan "sign vets to fill out roster" is a lot more underwhelming than it seems. Let another division team (Boston) overpay for a one year rental.

08 Feb 2019 17:36:01
If Davis ends up in LA, which i doubt, it won't be for 2 years. He'll be in Boston next season. ;)

08 Feb 2019 18:23:27
I legitimately hope he does end up in Boston next year so they can throw away the sustainability of their team in the garbage for a one year rental :)

08 Feb 2019 18:37:54
Smunro we know your trolling, bc thomas won't be on the team vs dotson.

08 Feb 2019 18:46:04
I'm really not trolling I just don't watch the Knicks enough to know their rotation. I honestly thought Insider meant Glenn Robinson III when i saw his name in the original post.

09 Feb 2019 04:27:33
About to lay money that Durant ends up in LA. on the Clippers.

Jerry West was the man who built the Warriors, betting on him having an actual plan and being able to execute it.

Remember Davis did have the Clippers on thst short list of teams he would sign an exyension with.

09 Feb 2019 12:44:15
Don't forget that West also built the Lakers for many years too.
I was excited to see West go to the clippers. I sure he has a plan. But if it Davis? He'll have to wait another year, because he's coming to Boston.

10 Feb 2019 17:33:07
Just read this quote in the Athletic

"But one thing to always keep in mind as the sweepstakes unfold is how much Durant respects Jerry West, who now works for the Clippers. "

11 Feb 2019 16:43:11
Not saying this is a fake news story, but the Athletic is known for publishing some pretty questionable stories. The truth with the NBA is always hidden at first like an out right lie, so this could be true, but it would have to include why before a 3rd possible championship Durant would even be considering switching teams, or GSW was letting him go. Durant doesn't feel like the K. Leonard situation to me.

07 Feb 2019 06:45:55
Wizards get Fultz Ntilikina Hezonja Patton
Sixers get Vonleh Mudiay L.Thomas
Knicks get Parker Kormaz 34 43 55

Wizards risk on Ntilikina and Fultz to replace wall for the future. Trade Wall for Mosgov Simmons Augustin 32 47. Mahinmi for Crabbe.


19-20
Augustin/Ntilikina/Fultz
Beal/Satoranky/Dort-32
Reddish/Crabbe/Brown
Portis/Simmons/Clarke-47
Bryant/Howard/Mosgov

Knicks trade 2 assets with expiring contract for 3 2nd and to clear additional money resign Jordan for mle.than 5 for vet minimum

19-20
Irving/Beverly/I.Thomas
Ellington/StephensonVick-pickup
Durant/Paschall-34/Bowen-51
Davis/Washington-43/Lawson-55
Jordan/O'Quinn/Govan-pickup

Sixers add 2 final piece to put them finals. Best starting 5 in east and solid bench. I expect sixers to win a title.

Simmons/Mudiay/McConnell
Reddick/Brewer/Smith
Butler/Scott/Thomas
Harris/Vonleh/Bolden
Embiid/Marjonovic/Johnson

07 Feb 2019 13:10:12
NY trades all their PG's?

06 Feb 2019 22:45:12
WAS-MIA-MEM

WAS gets
Dragic, Waiters,1st rd pick 2019

MIA gets Conley, Beal

MEM get James Johnson, Winslow


Conley
Beal
Richardson
Olynyk
Whiteside


Winslow
Holiday
Anderson
Jackson
Gasol

Dragic
Ariza
Porter
Morris
Bryant/.

07 Feb 2019 00:18:51
Lol grizz say no.

07 Feb 2019 00:37:45
Heat robbery.

05 Feb 2019 23:26:41
4-TEAM MEGA TRADE
(I know it seems fantastic but want to hear your opinion)


Lakers get A.Davis, B.Beal, E.Payton, J.Green, D.Melton, C.Diallo and K.Williams
Pelicans get B.Ingram, K.Kuzma, T.J.Warren, I.Zubac, T.Ariza, R.Rondo, LAL's 2023 1st round pick, LAL's 2020 2nd round pick and LAL's 2021 2nd round pick
Wizards get J.Jackson, K.C.Pope, M.Wagner, W.Johnson, S.Hill, LAL's 2019 1st round pick, LAL's 2021 1st round pick and LAL's $3.75M cash
Suns get L.Ball, L.Stephenson, M.Beasley and S.Decker


Lakers:
- sign C.Anthony
* Lakers acquire the stars needed next to James. They could've just traded for Davis, instead of involving Beal to the package, but it'd lower their chance of getting 3rd star in 2019 free agency (check out salary cap'19 and probable team salary otherwise). The trade costs much for LAL but the clock is ticking down for LeBron.

Payton - Melton - Bonga
Beal - Hart - Williams
James - Green - Mykhailiuk
Davis - Anthony
McGee - Chandler - Diallo


Pelicans:
- trade N.Mirotic and F.Frazier to Jazz for T.Sefalosha, E.Udoh, R.Neto and UTA's 2019 1st round pick
* Pelicans get exciting young prospects (Ingram, Kuzma, Zubac), possible 6th-man on a reasonable deal (Warren), two veterans on expiring contracts, salary relief (bye-bye Hill) and multiple draft picks. Considering Davis' other preferred destinations (NYK, LAC, Bucks), this package is the best package they can get for AD.

Holiday - Rondo - Neto
Ingram - Moore - Clark
Ariza - Warren - Sefalosha
Kuzma - Randle - Miller
Zubac - Okafor - Udoh


Wizards:
* Wall and Howard are out for at least for a month now, so it seems that Wizards won't make it to the playoffs. This deal allows them to snatch two promosing youngsters on rookie contracts, avoid paying luxury tax (the team salary goes down ~$7M), get two 1st round picks and cash (for swallowing Hill's contract).

Satoransky - Randle - (Wall)
Pope - Brown - Jenkins
Jackson - Johnson - Hill
Porter - Morris - Wagner
Bryant - Mahinmi - (Howard)


Suns:
* Even though Warren is pretty solid and Jackson has an upside, Suns desperately need a point guard. They already have good young forwards with better ceiling (Oubre and Bridges), and pairing Booker with a star-potential guard like Ball should be their priority. Ball-Booker would be good combo, and Suns will be super exciting if they land Zion Williamson in the draft too.

Ball - Okobo - Ewans
Booker - Crawford - Daniels
Oubre - Stephenson - Decker
Bridges - Anderson - Beasley
Ayton - Bender - Holmes


Thoughts?

06 Feb 2019 06:13:42
it's to big of a trade that will never happen but dosnt sound bad.

05 Feb 2019 02:38:37
If Irving Lebron Davis join forces, knicks moves alters

Deadline moves
Chandler Smith for Mathews
Vonleh Thomas for Johnson Muscala 43 55

Summer
Pelicans get DSJ Ntilikina
Knicks get Ball

Ball prefers NY over NO

Magic get 2020 ny 1st 2021 dal 1st 2022 by 1st 2023 1st
Knicks get Bamba

Orlando know knicks are overpaying here

Durant and Leonard 2yr 65 mil
Jordan 5yr 45mil mle

Ball/Mudiay/Ponds-51
Leonard/Trier/Smith
Durant/Knox/Dotson
Williamson-1/Wasington-43/Lawson-55
Jordan/Bamba/Robinson

This means raptors never made finals. Both leonard and Durant don't want to be anywhere near Lebron.

05 Feb 2019 18:05:49
Knicks aren’t giving up 4 first for anyone not named Anthony Davis!
Why would they give up all 4 first rd picks?

05 Feb 2019 18:39:00
So the Knicks give up 4 first, Frenchy and Dsj? Not happening.

04 Feb 2019 23:39:19
Bucks/ Knicks

To MIL - Vonleh

To NYK - Wood, 2020 2nd (via Washington)

Bucks are said to be looking for a front court piece before Thursday. Vonleh is a nice fit and quality piece for the balance of the season.

Wood is expiring, and the Knicks get a decent 2nd, which is about what Vonleh is worth.

05 Feb 2019 00:32:49
Take out Wood, and put in Maker!

05 Feb 2019 02:41:56
Sixers will give us 1st for Vonleh.

05 Feb 2019 04:14:52
Firstly, shizzee, I am also a Knicks fan.

Secondly, as good of a season as Noah has had, he’s still a rotation player on an expiring deal. Think it will be hard to find anyone willling to give up a first for him.

04 Feb 2019 22:53:18
Knicks - Magic

Knicks gets:
Martin
Birch
2020 1st Thunder (Top 20 protected)

Magic gets:
Mudiay
Vonleh

04 Feb 2019 23:39:04
You don't get a first for 30 games of 2 guts about to be free agents from tanking teams.

05 Feb 2019 02:42:42
Bamba for Vonleh Mudiay 4 1st.

 
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