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16 Aug 2018 19:31:23
NYK - NOP - MIL

Knicks get Maker, Ajinca, Okafor, NOP 2019 2nd
Pelicans get Snell, Zeller
Bucks get Noah, NY 2019 1st

NYK go all in for Irving and Butler. They will have to find a buyer for Lee to achieve that. Their seconds will help.

NOP are looking for a wing. They get Snell and a needed backup solid center with minimum cost.

MIL gets a lottery pick for eating Noah without having to pay the tax or loose much depth. Brown, DDV, Conny can share Snell's minutes, while they have Wood for third center.

16 Aug 2018 19:57:11
Pelicans might do this but not with the picks. For zeller and snell? Knicks are going to hold that pick so tight it may turn into a diamond. It's an important piece to their rebuild. If Dolan doesn't screw it up somehow.

16 Aug 2018 20:00:36
Wood is not signed by bucks but I don't think the bucks would have to include maker maybe a pick.

16 Aug 2018 20:03:58
My mistake he just signed I see.

16 Aug 2018 20:20:26
@btec Pelicans fill their needs with Snell and Zeller at the cost of Ajinca and Okafor who don't even play. It's only fair to give up a 2nd for that. I know it was not the wisest thing to do, but Bucks gave a 2nd to Nets just for Zeller.

16 Aug 2018 22:09:35
Pelicans need a SF/ PF or PG or SF. Wilson Chandler would be a good fit for the pelicans. Snell is more 2 than 3 and doesn't ever shoot the ball. Why trade expiring contracts, picks and take on salary for guys you don't really need? Snell would be hard to move without including a 1st.

16 Aug 2018 18:09:37
Atl get Kanter Lee Burke Noah Kornet
Knicks get Bazemore Lin Dedmon Plumlee

Talent wise atl is favorite. Kanter Lee have more to offer than Bazemore and Any other other player. Burke could challenge young as their starter. Lin is a shell of his linsanity yr. Plumlee and Noah despite 7 mil more in money are even talent wise at this point in their career.

Money wise they are both even. Both have to pay about 32 mil to 2 players in the 2019-20 season. Lee Noah equal talent wise Bazemore Plumlee

Ny does it bc both plumlee and bazemore are easier to trade than Noah which ny master plan is clear as much cap space as possible.

30-52
Young/Burke/Adams
Dorsey/Anderson/Huerter
Prince/Carter/Bembry
Collins/Spellman/Kornet
Kanter/Len/Noah

Ny now can now trade hardaway for Simmons Ajinca & Bazemore for Shumpert. You will stretch provision plumlee final yr to finalize NY master plan or maybe Plumlee Ajince for Asik Felicio at deadline But what ever you do is force Plumlee 28-30 min jack up his stats and make him more attractive.

25-57
Ntilikina/Mudiay/Lin
Hezonja/Shumpert/Dotson
Knox/Simmons/Thomas
Vonleh/Robinson/Porzingis
Plumlee/Dedmon/Ajinca

16 Aug 2018 18:49:50
Bazemore is better than Lee, Linn is better than Kornet and Burke, Plumlee is better than Noah, and Dedmond is better than Kanter. How is the talent better coming back to Atlanta? This is awful for Atlanta.

Also, why would Sacremento trade an expiring for a veteran on a big contract?

16 Aug 2018 18:56:45
Hill not simmons lmao.

16 Aug 2018 23:55:23
Hezonja is the sg? Dude. Do you watch the sport? He’s a 3/ 4. Stop putting big men as the shooting guard.

16 Aug 2018 12:49:35
Knicks/ Pels

To NYK: Ajinca, Emeka, Liggins, 2019 2nd, 2022 2nd

To NOP: Lee

Knicks get three expiring deals, helping to get closer to dual max space next year, along with a couple of picks.

Pels get the 3 and D wing they still need for a very reasonable price.

16 Aug 2018 17:05:53
Simmons Ajinca for Hardaway is better for both team.

16 Aug 2018 17:35:16
shizzee, I assume you mean Solomon Hill.

I’m sure the Knicks would be willing to move THJ, but the Pels are looking 3 and D, which Hardaway doesn’t offer like Lee does.

16 Aug 2018 18:58:41
Lee for hill than shumpert for hardaway.

16 Aug 2018 19:45:12
Those 2nds will be going to the pelicans for taking on lee's salary. Lee is not going to be getting 30 minutes a game for the pelicans. He could be a good addition but I don't think the cost trade off works and I have a hard time seeing him on the floor in front of moore, holiday, hill, miller, maybe even Jackson, bluiett. Smaller than hill and miller and would cost a 1st to dump next summer if he doesn't work out in the rotation.

15 Aug 2018 06:40:44
Trade after september where noah is than owed 26 mil

Hawks get Kanter Randolph
Kings get Bazemore Noah Mavs 1st Cash
Knicks get Plumlee Shumpert Koufos

Hawks clear 35 mil all non rookie salary beyond 2018 for their 3rd lowest 2019 1st.

33-49
Young/Lin/Adams
Dorsey/Huerter/Anderson
Prince/Carter/Bembry
Collins/Randolph/Spellman
Kanter/Dedmon/Len

Kings get starting sg for 2 yrs until Hield is ready. In addition they get 2 mil from ny and 5 mil from atl to pay noah remaining salary remaining 18-19 yr of salary. Noah is 1st big off the bench which they showcase for 30 games before trading his 19 mil expiring contract for Gorgui Dieng.

30-52
Fox/Ferrell/Mason
Bazemore/Hield/McLemore
Bogdanovic/Jackson/Labissierre
Bagley/Bjelica/Giles
Stein/Noah/Davis

Knicks get rid noah at cost of Kanter and cash. Still have Plumlee to showcase him 30 games as a starter 14ppg 10rpg 2 bpg for should impress someone in his final 12 mil to a team who needs a center next yr.
Other moves Hardaway for Mathews Simmons for Lee.

24-58
Ntilikina/Mudiay/Burke
Mathews/Shumpert/Dotson
Hezonja/Simmons/Thomas
Knox/Vonleh/Porzingis
Plumlee/Robinson/Koufos

15 Aug 2018 15:59:10
So unbelievable.

15 Aug 2018 16:54:32
Unbelievable vs what, deng ball kuzma Ingram for Davis. LMAO

Lets break it down:
Shumpert for bazemore cash is fair
Plumlee mavs 1st for Kanter is fair
Noah cash mavs 1st for Randolph Koufos is fair.

So how is my trade idea unbelievable.

15 Aug 2018 19:15:36
I can’t see Atlanta giving up a 1st or the Kings wanting Bazemore. The value isn’t terrible, but i’m Just not sure that it makes sense with Atlanta and Sac’s directions.

15 Aug 2018 20:35:44
Looks like the Kings take on a ton of bad money.

15 Aug 2018 22:11:15
I agree 16.

My trade take place next year when Deng and Davis will be expiring. I said ball and Ingram plus three 1st. Like I said that's more then what bulls got for Butler, wolves for love, thunder for harden spurs for Leonard, clippers for Paul and Griffin and magic for Howard plus pelicans for Paul.

13 Aug 2018 06:26:30
MIA/CLE/DET

MIA get Reggie Jackson, Tristan Thompson, Stanley Johnson, 2nd round pick from CLE & 1st round pick (protected) from DET
- they take almost same amount of money but gain a young player and some assets. Jackson could thrive under MIA system and be an effective point guard for them

Pg Jackson/T.Johnson
Sg Wade/Waiters/McGruder
Sf S.Johnson/Ellington
Pf J.Johnson/Olynyk
Ce Adebayo/Thompson

CLE get Hassan Whiteside
- get a rim protector

Pg Sexton/Hill
Sg Smith/Clarkson/Nwaba
Sf Hood/Osman/Dekker
Pf Love/Nance
Ce Whiteside/Zizic

DET get Goran Dragic & Kyle Korver
- get guards who can shoot well and fit the team

Pg Dragic/Smith/Calderon
Sg Kennard/Galloway/Thomas
Sf Korver/Bullock/GR3
Pf Griffin/Ellenson
Ce Drummond/Pachulia

13 Aug 2018 11:53:48
Waiter?

13 Aug 2018 05:40:18
This seems fair only if Porzingis announces he will back after December

C's get Porzingis Waiters Mudiay
Heat get Kanter Hardaway
NY get Irving Whiteside Yubesele Ojeleye

48-34
Dragic/Johnson/McCruder
Hardaway/Ellington/Newman
Richardson/Winslow/JonesJr
Johnson/Olynyk/Maten
BamBam/Kanter/Mickey

62-20
Rozier/Smart/Wanamaker
Brown/Waiters/Mudiay
Tatum/Hayward/Bird
Horford/Morris/Williams
Porzingis/Baynes/Theis

Midseason
Kings get Lee Noah Kornet 2019 1st
Knicks get Shumpert Randolph Koufos

48-34
Irving/Ntilikina/Burke
Knox/Shumpert/Dotson
Ojeleye/Hezonja/Thomas
Yubesele/Vonleh/Randolph
Whiteside/Robinson/Koufos

13 Aug 2018 10:17:55
Irving is NOT going to be traded. Can't understand why people think he will be. SMH Even if he walks at the end if the season they will ride this team all the ways to the finals, if they make it that far. Why would they not let it play out to see if they can win a title in Boston.
The people who will disagree with this are either dreamers or fools.

13 Aug 2018 11:50:17
JoeB- if trader Danny thinks he is going for nothing he is going to get traded.

13 Aug 2018 14:14:31
Wait, you are a knicks fan and you have Knox as a shooting guard?

Again, you probably should watch basketball at some point.

13 Aug 2018 18:20:51
Nobody agree with you letsgoknicks fan bc 19, he can play sg position. Knicks coach already said they want to play bigger than anybody. he will experiment knox at 2 porzingis 3 and Kornet 4. Even if you play hezonja or shumpert at 2 and Knox and Ojeleye at 3, it makes no diferrence who starts, its how you finish. Their front court is built like a defensive wall. So knicks can create a mismatches offensively at 2. Read an article on knicks plans is too play bigger than anybody, come out of your grandma's basement.

14 Aug 2018 10:17:19
Shillwe, if you think Ainge will pull the plug on a Championship season because he thinks Irving will leave, you don't know Ainge or basketball.
Only way Ainge would do that is, if tbe Celtics are a lottery team.
I don't think anyone on the planet thinks that will happen. Lol.

14 Aug 2018 18:08:00
Shizzee, think about this logically, if you can.
What team would trade major assets for Irving if, as reported, is going to NY or Brooklyn?
Answer: no oNE
Why would the Knicks or Nets want to trade for Irving, giving up major assets, when they can sign him as a free agent?
Ainge wouldn't trade him for an inferior package. He would hold onto him and run out the season and hopefully they win the title.
Ainge is NOT afraid of a player walking in free agency.
Plus, It's been reported that Ainge is really confident that he can resign him.

12 Aug 2018 16:49:03
Cavs trade George hill to Knicks for Joakim Noah,2019 1st to 4 protected

12 Aug 2018 17:10:16
Lol. Knicks fan?

12 Aug 2018 17:52:55
Lee and Noah plus top 5 protected for hill And Smith. now Knicks have lots of cap next year.

12 Aug 2018 18:23:25
Kevin Love 2 1st for Noah since you cavs fans are in clowning mood.

12 Aug 2018 18:42:37
It wil take a first to move the two years of Noah and Lee contract I say Knicks get pick 8 -11.

12 Aug 2018 18:55:26
Shizzee closing mood? It would take more than just 1 protected 1st to move Noah. Look what it took just to move Faried.

12 Aug 2018 18:56:00
I wouldn't give up a top ten pick in next years draft for George hill. His numbers were bad with the kings and they were bad with the cavs. Even to trade noah.

12 Aug 2018 19:34:47
Btec, The point of the trade is to get Noah off the books and open up cap space. It doesn’t matter if Hill is goood or not. He’s only guaranteed to make a million dollars after this season. You can buy him out for the 20million left on his contracts before the season begins and have an extra 7 million to spend this off season when you’re hoping to get 2 stars.

12 Aug 2018 19:58:01
Fully aware rkenne16, just substitute cap space in place of the name George hill since they symbolize the same thing if that works for you? It's a noah dump for Hill because of his 20 mil guaranteed for a likely top ten pick. What is it you think I'm confused about? What point am I missing? Said the circle to the triangle.

12 Aug 2018 20:48:13
If you weren’t confused about the reason for the trade, then why even comment on Hill’s ability to play? It’s irrelevant.

12 Aug 2018 20:55:44
Because a top 10 pick and noah are worth more than George hill, so if that's the case might as well give a brief reason why hill isn't enough. Who crapped in your cornflakes surly sally?

12 Aug 2018 23:26:01
The market has shown that that would be the price of doing business, if not more than that price. We just saw the Faried trade for a 1st and a 2nd and apparently the Mavs weren’t willing to do a Bazemore Mathews swap to move up from 5 to 3. Both deals are far more palatable than taking on Noah.

13 Aug 2018 04:16:16
Rkenne16 there's a difference between the nuggets projected pick and the knicks for 2019. Even the nuggets top 12 protected their pick. Which is going to be a significantly higher draft pick likely. No one trades a top ten for near nothing or only salary cap relief. A top ten lottery pick for George hill or "salary relief" is absurd. Your a cavs fan and you enjoy being ridiculous or something because this isn't rational in anyway. The Brooklyn pick you guarded like the family jewelz why would ny be any different?

13 Aug 2018 05:04:55
Btec, the difference is 2 full years of 18 million dollars kept worth of a guy you can’t let in your facilities. It’s not about the Cavs. Go look at all of my comments on Noah. I’ve responded the same to all of them. You can trade him to the Suns, Hawks, Nets, etc. Even an unprotected Knicks pick might not do it. You’re committing to a ridiculous amount of dead money in a market where no one has cap space and a ton of teams want it. It’s not hard to understand where the market is right now.

13 Aug 2018 06:12:17
It's only 16 mil the cavs are taking on after riddding hills 20 mil. At this moment that knicks pick could be a #1 and there is no way in hell a team trades a pick that golden given the projections for the knicks at this point. Even to trade noah. It may be the asking price as you claim (I think it's off) but the knicks wouldn't do it, no way.

13 Aug 2018 07:26:07
Remember when the clippers dumped Davis and have up there pick unprotected to the Cavs for cap space and Cavs got number one pick and it was Irving.

12 Aug 2018 11:55:48
Mavs get Hayward Kanter C's 2019 1st
C's get Porzingis Mathews Hardaway Burke
Knicks get Irvings Yubesele Jordan
Ojeleye Kleber-cut

Mavs have solid starting 5 and key vets on bench to playoff run. Risk of taking on Hayward gets late 1st

48-34
Smith/Barea/Brunson
Doncic/Harris/Baker
Hayward/Hopson/Smith
Barnes/Powell/Spalding
Kanter/Dirk/Mejri

Celtics might loose Irving to NY as it is. Hayward may never be the same player. Clearing out of his contract is a safe risk. Porzingis might put C's as a legitimate contender ahead of the raptors and sixers. With out 2 more picks

60-22
Rozier/Burke/Wanamaker
Brown/Smart/Bird
Tatum/Hardaway/Mathews
Horford/Morris/Williams
Porzingis/Baynes/Theis

Knicks loose their star unicorn to get better sooner without thinking of 2019 free agency or dump lee noah 2019 1st for Shumpert Randolph Koufos and purse fa next yr or This allows them to think 2020 free agency where they can be contender with additional 60 in cap space. Many options

50-32
Irving/Ntilikina/Mudiay
Lee/Hezonja/Shumpert
Knox/Ojeleye/Dotson
Yubesele/Vonleh/Thomas
Jordan/Robinson/Noah

12 Aug 2018 13:16:12
Not a chance that the Celtics move Irving and Hayward at all, never mind for that package. Ridiculous.

12 Aug 2018 14:25:02
Irving and Hayward are not going anywhere -- especially for a guy who might not even play until the All-Star break, if even that. Celtics are good at center with the Baynes/ Horford/ Theis mix. Mathews, Hardaway and Burke might not even be rotation players in Boston.

12 Aug 2018 15:45:19
I’d take Irving or Hayward over Porzingis. Both for him is ludicrous.

12 Aug 2018 17:00:29
Ok but when Irving leaves and Hayward not worth 35 mil per yr don't get mad at me. Irving already had 3 knee surgeries. Mathews clears you of Hayward. Hardaway will be worth Hayward for 1/ 2 the cost. Obviously, the trade won't happen Porzingis announce a December trade.

12 Aug 2018 18:51:13
Are you the only one that doesn’t realize that Hardaway isn’t all that good. He’s at best a player you can bring off the bench to get buckets and at worst a black hole that takes touches away from guys that can score far more efficiently. If you want a guy like that you could trade for one on a better contract. Rodney Hood is a more efficient version of that with more upside and he couldn’t even get an offer sheet. Comparing Hardaway to Hayward is ridiculous. There isn’t 1 area of the game Hardaway where Hardaway is more productive.

12 Aug 2018 19:04:37
Irving is not playing for the knicks next season. That franchise is still in rebuild mode. Porzingis is more likely to go to Boston than Irving to New York. Unless its Brooklyn we're talking about and other guys are going there to form the mythical super-team. Both scenarios are highly unlikely. 100:1 odds.

12 Aug 2018 19:07:58
I’m a bit confused as to your definition of efficient scoring. Hood shoots at a lower fg percentage.

You say more upside, but they have played the same amount.

Care to explain or is it just a homer comment?

Hardaway is paid too much. Simple as that. But the guy has a solid place in the league. More so a 6th man.

I do find it funny that supercollider is so dillusional he thinks that the 10th man on the Celtics is an all star level player. At least he must if he claims everyone would fail to be in their rotation.

I’m still curious why Celtics fans are so cocky about the team. You didn’t even make the finals. You’ll have excuses and reasons. But you accomplished the exact same as the suns. You didn’t win the conference. You didn’t win in the playoffs. Awesome.

12 Aug 2018 19:40:59
That's funny coming from a fan 9f a team that hasn't even sniffed the playoffs since Bernard king.

12 Aug 2018 19:51:30
Knicks, Hood gives you 1.18 points per shot compared to Hardaway giving you 1.14 pps. Shooting percentage is a pretty flimsy stats. Hood has 1 fewer years in the league, he’s bigger, and he’s a better shooter. It’s splitting hairs, but in the end they’re comparable players and Hood’s contract will end up being significantly less.

The point is Hardaway would be pretty hard to trade without taking bad money back or including assets. There was probably some exaggeration in there though after seeing Shizzee compare Hardaway to Hayward.

12 Aug 2018 20:26:01
Bigger star had just as bad injuries and never recovered fully (Grant Hill. )

12 Aug 2018 20:52:50
I’m fairly sure the doctors said there was minimal ligament damage and comparing an injury from 2 decades ago to now is pointless. Sports medicine is miles ahead of where it was at that point.

13 Aug 2018 04:33:55
Irving and Jordan are both free agents next year and can possibly leave so knicks trade there whole starting 5 for 2 players that are on 1 yr rentals? Lol makes no sense.

10 Aug 2018 23:59:05
Porzingis should be traded to get rid of Noah and bring back picks.

Mavs get Porzingis Lee Hardaway Noah
Hawks get Jordan Mathews Burke
Knicks get Bazemore Plumlee Lin Kleber Atl & Mavs 1st & 2nd

Hawks clear bad contracts add needed with very conpetitive team
37-45
Young/Burke/Adams
Huerter/Dorsey/Mathews
Prince/Carter/Anderson
Collins/Spellman/Bembry
Jordan/Dedmon/Len

Dangerous mavs team and final run with Dirk

50-32
Smith/Barea/Brunson
Hardaway/Lee/Hopson
Barnes/Doncic/Smith
Porzingis/Dirk/Spalding
Powell/Noah/Mejri

Shumpert for Bazemore 2nd
Plumlee for Bayless

25-57 tank
Mudiay/Lin//Bayless
Ntilikina/Shumpert/Baker
Knox/Dotson/T.Williams
Hezonja/Thomas/Kleber
Kanter/Robinson/Kornet

19-20
Irving/Ntilikina/Pond-2nd
Butler/Dotson/Martin-2nd
Durant/Hezonja-mle/Martin-2nd
Knox/Williamson-1st/Robinson
Fernando-1st/Reid-1st/Azibuike-2nd

11 Aug 2018 14:30:32
I like this idea, but no team is going to give up much for Porzingis. He's injured and he becomes a free agent next summer.


However, if any team would give a good price, it would be Dallas. So i can see them doing this. It's Atlanta that would say no. They should get young talent, not giving up a draft pick for an aging veteran that can't play offence.

11 Aug 2018 20:30:01
so atl is giving up what should be a top 5 pick for dj on a 1 year deal? nooooooo way.

10 Aug 2018 19:37:09
Knicks-Suns

Suns- Porzingis and Mudiay

Knicks- Jackson Bridges Bender

This gives suns an all star big to pair with Ayton and booker while still having Warren and Ariza at the 3 and Mudiay at least gives them an option at point which they don't have.

This gives the suns two perfect defenseive players in bridges and a buy low on bender they could potentially have a lineup of ntilinka jackson bridges knox robinson which would be a defensive juggernaut.

10 Aug 2018 19:53:19
Knicks turn this down and I wouldn't pair porzingis with ayton. 2 of the same guy. Porzingis is better defensively and offensively, get ran to death by small lineups.

10 Aug 2018 22:08:10
Knicks turn this down. They love Porzingis and want to build a team around him. They would have to get an all-star in order to move him.

10 Aug 2018 09:24:42
CLE/PHX/MIA

CLE get Whiteside, Warren & Knight

Pg Sexton/Knight
Sg Hood/Korver
Sf Warren/Osman/Dekker
Pf Love/Nance/Frye
Ce Whiteside/Zizic

PHX get Dragic & T Johnson

Pg Dragic/Okobo
Sg Booker/Johnson
Sf Jackson/Bridges
Pf Ariza/Chriss/Holmes
Ce Ayton/Chandler/Bender

MIA get Thompson, Clarkson, Jr Smith (exp) & swap rights to CLE (future 1st)

Pg Richardson/Clarkson
Sg Wade/Waiters/Smith
Sf Winslow/Ellington/McGruder
Pf Johnson/Olynyk
Ce Adebayo/Thompson

10 Aug 2018 15:30:38
The winner are Cleveland Miami and Phoenix a big loser in this trade. Dragic ist not realy a PG, first shot than pasing, Johnson is a big mistake with 20 mln pro season. Suns never do that.

10 Aug 2018 15:39:55
The Cavs shouldn’t trade any future pick unless they’re getting back a good player on a rookie scale.

10 Aug 2018 17:52:51
Keep valuing the kardashian curse. Clarkson stock dropped. JR Smith is suicide of a risk. warren and whiteside are best player in that even with the pick the heat get screwed.

09 Aug 2018 19:00:30
Cavs trade - George Hill

Knicks trade - Lance Thomas and Courtney Lee

Sexton/Clarkson
Lee/Smith
Hood/Osman
Love/Thomas
Thompson/Nance

Hill/Mudiay
THJ/Ntkilina
Knox/Henzonja
KP/Vonleh
Kanter/Robinson

09 Aug 2018 20:41:42
i don't see the benefit here for the cavs, hill is only guaranteed for 1 mil next year, while they would have to pay lee his full amount next year.

09 Aug 2018 21:41:34
I’d rather have George Hill, if I’m Cleveland. He’s essentially an expiring contract and they’re fine at sg and assuming they bring back Hood. Why take on longer term money for a player that isn’t any better than Hill and a non factor in Thomas? Not to mention that Clarkson isn’t really a pg and Sexton’s passing is a work in progress.

09 Aug 2018 23:49:03
If your cleveland you go for better talent vs better contract no big name will sign there, unless Sexton turns out to be a star. Good luck Cleveland. Lebron did right by u guys coming back and winning championship as a under dog.

Cavs get Hardaway Lee Thomas Shamet
Knicks get Hill Bayless Korkmaz
Sixers get JrSmith Kornet Baker

JR raised outside of philly in nj fill backup role

High scoring team with most 3 taken
8th seed
Sexton/ Crawford/ Shamet
Hardaway/ Lee/ Nwaba
Osman/ Korver/ Dekker
Love/ Thomas/ Nance
Thompson/ Frye/ Zizic

Tanking 60 lose team
Mudiay/ Burke/ Hill
Ntilikina/ Korkmaz/ Bayless
Knox/ Dotson/ T. Williams
Hezonja/ Vonleh/ Porzingis
Kanter/ Robinson/ Noah

Simmons/ Fultz/ McConnell
Reddick/ Smith/ Baker
JrSmith/ Covington/ Milton
Saric/ Chandler/ Muscala
Embiid/ Johnson/ Kornet.

10 Aug 2018 02:43:15
The Cavs can get free agents like Hardaway, if they’re willing to overpay them like the Knicks did. What’s the big difference between Hood and Hardaway? The Cavs don’t need another streaky wing that doesn’t play much defense and Hood will end up on a significantly better deal.

10 Aug 2018 07:09:51
@Shizzee: JR starting over Covington . really?

09 Aug 2018 18:22:54
Cavss get hardaway, Lee and Noah plus unprotected first pick 2019 Knicks.

Knicks get Chandler, Smith and hill.

Suns get Thompson plus second from Knicks and Cavs. Or the Suns can have Clarkson and korver

Cavs take on lots of salary but gain quality pick.

Knicks clear space and only cost them there pick if there confident they can sign Butler and Irving they should do this in heart beat.

Suns add depth while ayton develops. Plus two decent second round picks from lottery teams.

09 Aug 2018 20:02:30
The Knicks pick will be around 5. They have zero interest in trading it to save like 5 mill.

09 Aug 2018 20:21:17
The Suns can’t turn this down fast enough assuming they even have the cap to do it.

09 Aug 2018 20:43:08
ny will waive noah rather than lose an unprotected first (they will be bad this year) and i think they still value thj.

09 Aug 2018 20:47:48
Knicks will not give away a likely top 5 pick for this deal. They have shown they are not willing to add it to get rid of Noah, or he would already be gone.

09 Aug 2018 23:44:00
First Knicks are saving way more then 5 million. There clearing Noah Lee and hardaway to have cap for Irving and Butler. Not just Noah. Suns are trading chandler for t Thompson and two seconds don't need cap.

09 Aug 2018 23:45:19
If they waive Noah that's good but how can they clear Lee and hardaway to have cap for Irving and Butler.

10 Aug 2018 01:11:55
Triangle- by overpaid him. Nobody else values his skill/ contract.

10 Aug 2018 17:54:08
I understand that, but you all are missing the point. Knicks have already said they’re not giving up that pick to move contracts. Lee has value and can be moved for an expiring deal, and Hardaway is likely part of the future plans.

Take the Lakers as an example as to why the Knicks don’t move that pick. PG13 was bought and paid for this offseason? Nope. Claw will make his way there through trade? Nope.

Knicks should not, and all indications suggest they won’t give up future assets on the chance they land an All-Star next year.

11 Aug 2018 01:51:10
There giving up a pick to have cap to add quality players to zing, Knox, Williams and the next glove. Like the Lakers dumped Russell And mozgov got Lopez for expiring deal. The Knicks don't need picks they need cap space. Because zinger is ready to compete now not wait on developing players. So with cap they can and players will go to new York to play with Knox zingerr Williams and the next glove.

09 Aug 2018 07:47:49
NYK/HOU

NYK get Lee & Noah

HOU get Anderson, Nene & 2nd rd pick

09 Aug 2018 17:15:12
Dumb knicks management lost all opportunity to trade noah even if the money and talent are the same in the trade when the notified or created rumors of buying out noah under the stretch provision rules. Team will wait out and not gives in until they get a sweeter deal. Knicks need to dump kournet and have noah as a backup to showcase him to create fair trade value. Noah issue was his shoulder. 2 yrs should be plenty of time heal his shoulder without injury.

1st 1/ 2 of season 19-22
Ntilikina/ Mudiay/ Burke
Hardaway/ Lee/ Baker
Knox/ Hezonja/ Dotson
Vonleh/ Thomas/ Porzingis
Kanter/ Noah/ Robinson

If no offers come you can stretch provision noah final 19 mil over 5 yrs next and knicks will only have 4 mil against the cap instead 8 mil if they stretch him now.

Before deadline trade
Hardaway for Mathews
Lee Thomas for Solomon Ajinca

7-34 2nd 1/ 2 tank
Mudiay/ Burke/ Ntilikina-IR
Dotson/ Baker/ Mathews
Hezonja/ Solomon/ Knox-IR
Robinson/ Vonleh/ Porzingis-IR
Noah/ Ajinca/ Kanter-IR

Knicks move up in lotto to 4th
Irving Butler 30 mil per yr
Hezonja Vonleh 5-7 per yr

19-20 buy late 2nd
Irving/ Ntilikina/ Beverly-vetmin
Butler/ Dotson/ CodyMartin-pickup
Knox/ Hezonja/ CalebMartin-2nd
Williamson-1st/ Vonleh/ J. Green-vetmin
Porzingis/ Robinson/ Bitadze-late 2nd.

09 Aug 2018 19:30:10
Shizzee, if they wait out the year, it would only be a 3 year stretch. It’s double year’s remaining plus 1. It still holds true though that that seems more palatable than stretching him this year. The money would be tied up for 1 less season and it would save them a few million extra per year. I don’t get the rush to move him this year. They’re not in the luxury nor do they really have anyone left in free agency to target. Plus maybe they can find a deal next year that will save them some money.

08 Aug 2018 23:35:01
Knicks - Pelicans - Rockets

Knicks gets:
Hill
Ajinca
Nene (Buyout)

Pelicans gets:
Anderson
2019 1st Rockets (Top 20 protected)

Rockets gets:
Hardaway Jr.
Lee

Knicks save more money for next summer and can go after big FA with more space.

Pelicans gets Anderson back and get a late first for his contract.

Rockets upgrade their roster but give up a pick and take on future money by doing so.


Who says no?

09 Aug 2018 03:30:42
Buyout ajinca keep nene.

09 Aug 2018 03:57:14
No way rockets have cap for both of there contracts.

09 Aug 2018 19:30:09
Terrible for Knicks.

10 Aug 2018 21:08:16
Anderson can't play Pels up=tempo style. The pick would be very end of 1st. Ajinca is already expiring so Pels pass IMO.

14 Aug 2018 01:55:55
Why would the PELs want Anderson. ? What could he bring them other than an over inflated salary.

08 Aug 2018 22:24:59
Heat get Kanter Thomas Koufos
Nets get Whiteside Noah Lee
Kings get Hardaway Olynyk
Knicks get Carroll Randolph Faried Shumpert Dudley Arthur

Knicks save the most money get worst talent in return

Ntilikina/Mudiay/Burke
Shumpert/Hezonja/Dotson
Carroll/Knox/Dudley
Faried/Arthur/Porzingis
Randolph/Robinson/Kornet

Heat save 2nd most money and descent return with only 1 mil guarenteed next yr.

Dragic/Johnson/WalterJr
Lee/Waiters/McCruder
Richardson/Thomas/Jonesjr
Johnson/Winslow/Maten
Kanter/BamBam/Koufos

Kings get best offensive return, take future salary

Fox/Ferrell/Mason
Hardaway/Hield/McLemore
Bogdanovic/Jackson/Labissiere
Bagley/Bjelica/Giles
Olynyk/Stein/Davis

Nets take the most future salary for 1 more additional yr but have chance to be playoff after a 15 yrs layoff. Than

Russell/Dinwiddie/Napier
Lee/Lavert/Doyle
Crabbe/Harris/Musa
Jefferson/Davis/Kurocs
Whiteside/Allen/Noah

08 Aug 2018 23:59:38
Knicks should add Knox and Porzingis.

09 Aug 2018 00:16:14
So, the Knicks trade all their garbage for expiring contracts without giving anything up of value. It doesn’t matter how many teams you involve or which teams are involved, this trade is never going to make sense. They’re going to have to give up picks or young talent to get rid of their crap just like any other team.

09 Aug 2018 03:31:38
Love for noah makes more sense rkenne.

09 Aug 2018 05:03:43
Shizzee give it up man.

09 Aug 2018 19:33:30
Nets have clearly stated they are clearing as much money as possible to make a run at a couple of max FA’s next year. Why in God’s name would they make this deal?

10 Aug 2018 01:17:24
Brooklyn wants two max slots next year. They aren't taking contracts on.

05 Aug 2018 20:07:50
PHX-MIA-MIN

PHX gets Teague, Gibson and 2nd rd pick from MIN also sends Chander to MIA where gets waived but this makes it possible for PHX to create cap space for the upcoming free agency

MIN gets Whiteside, Warren, Richardson, Knight

MIA gets Dieng and Jimmy Butler


Teague/ Daniels
Booker/ Jackson
Ariza/ Bridges
Gibson/ Chriss
Ayton/ Len/ Bender

Knight
Wiggins/ Richardson
Warren/ Crawford
Karl Towns
Whiteside

Dragic/ Ty Johnson
Butler/ Wade
Waiters/ Winslow
James Johnson/ Dieng
Olnyk/ Bam Adebayo.

06 Aug 2018 03:25:19
Whiteside playing as backup to Kat is a funny thought. Whiteside would be demanding to be traded immediately, raising all sorts of hell.

06 Aug 2018 13:51:48
He doesn't have Whiteside backing up Towns. He has them both starting with Towns at the 4. It's an interesting concept. I'm not the biggest Whiteside guy, but he does bring some solid attributes for a big, and those should fit what Thibs likes to do. Towns probably has the mobility to get out to the line on defense, and on offense, he can match up on pretty much any 4 or 5, so that wouldn't be an issue.

06 Aug 2018 18:16:34
I think Minnesota would be a bad defensive team with towns and whiteside in at the same time. Fast breaked' to death and shot out of the building.

07 Aug 2018 14:04:54
Btec? KAT can play the four they both have two different games. A poor mans boogie and AD if you ask me.

08 Aug 2018 00:14:24
Could Minnesota even come close to affording that?

05 Aug 2018 00:07:02
Heat get Kanter Hardaway
Mavs get Waiters Lee
Knicks get Whiteside Mathews Kleber-cut

Heat cut future salary while getting stronger offensively

Dragic/Johnson/WaltonJr
Hardaway/Ellington/McCruder
Richardson/Winslow/Jonesjr
Johnson/Olynyk/Maten
Kanter/BamBam/Mickey

Dallas has balance to compete for playoff

Smith/Barea/Brunson
Lee/Waiters/Hopson
Doncic/Smith/Spalding
Barnes/Dirk/Onuaku
Jordan/Powell/Mejri

Whiteside Robinson Noah will allow ny to bench Porzingis all yr. Knicks will trade Whiteside Noah final yr to Dal for cap space in offseason when Jordan leaves.if that happen with Thomas 1 mil opt buyout, this will NY 96 mil cap space for 3 maxed out contracts 29 mil for Irving Butler 1st yr. Durant 38 mil in 1st yr. Before they resign Porzingis. Knicks trade 1st down for late 1st 2 2nd

19-20
Irving/Ntilikina/Ponds-pickup
Butler/Dotson/Martin-2nd
Durant/Hezonja-mle split/Martin-2nd
Knox/Vonleh-mle split/Porter-2nd
Porzingis/Robinson/Azubuile-2nd

04 Aug 2018 08:49:20
NYK/MIN

NYK get Wiggins
- go with youngsters

Pg Ntilikina
Sg Hezonja
Sf Wiggins
Pf Knox
Ce Porzingis

MIN get Lee & Hardaway
- add vets who plays d and can help

Pg Teague/Jones
Sg Lee/Hardaway
Sf Butler/Okogie
Pf Gibson/Patton
Ce Towns/Dieng

04 Aug 2018 20:49:46
Hardaway is Wiggins light. Overpaid and not of value.

05 Aug 2018 01:02:19
Knicks have Knox at Sf who is just as good offensivly but wiggens 25 mil more per yr more expensive.

Toronto get Teague Wiggens Dieng Gibson Towns
Wolves get Lowry Leonard Ibaka Anuoby Siakam

Raptors build for future.

Teague/ VanFleet/ Brown
Green/ Powell/ Wright
Wiggens/ Myles/ Richardson
Towns/ Gibson/ Miller
Valanciunas/ Dieng/ Nogueira

Wolves make championship run. I think butler lowry leonard ibaka stay together.

Lowry/ Rose/ Jones
Butler/ Williams/ Okogie
Leonard/ Anunoby/ Hunt
Siakam/ Toliver/ Diop
Ibaka/ Patton/ Jefferson.

03 Aug 2018 02:46:13
Thunder lack a solid backup SF and have several young players that can battle for the backup SG position Ferguson, TLC, Diallo so I think they should trade Alex Abrines using the TPE from Melo trade to get a solid SF for the bench. Most of the trades would make the luxury bill go up a lot but Thunder could cut, trade, or stretch Singler to make them cheaper and open a roster spot after the trade.

Thunder get Demarre Carroll
Nets get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd

Thunder get Marvin Williams
Hornets get Abrines

Thunder get Korver
Cavs get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Bojan Bogdanovic
Pacers get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Josh Richardson
Heat get Abrines, 2 2 nd’s

Thunder get Tony Snell
Bucks get Abrines

Thunder get Courtney Lee
Knicks get Abrines, 1 2nd if needed

Thunder get Jonathan Simmons
Magic get Abrines 2 2nd’s

Thunder get CJ Miles
Raptors get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get Garrett Temple
Grizzlies get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get E'Twaun Moore
Pelicans get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Jae Crowder
Jazz get Abrines, 2 2nds

At trade deadline if Ariza won't sign with sun's next year
Thunder get Ariza
Suns get Abrines, 1 or 2 seconds

Give me your opinions. Will any of these work?

03 Aug 2018 05:24:03
Can't include a TPE with a player.

03 Aug 2018 06:13:48
Dang I didn't realize that. Well ignore all of those.

 
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