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23 May 2017 01:50:09
I have a crazy deal

NY/BOS/NOLA

NY get 1st overall pick , Jae Crowder & Quincy Pondexter

BOS get Anthony Davis & Carmelo Anthony

NOLA get Kristaps Porzingis , Avery Bradley , 2018 BKN 1st round pick , 2018 BOS own 1st & LAC 1st 2019

BOS sign JJ Reddick

Pg Thomas/Rozier
Sg Reddick/Smart
Sf Anthony/Brown
Pf Davis/Olynyk
Ce Horford/Zeller

23 May 2017 04:04:52
Melo Lee Hernangomez for cousins Asik.

22 May 2017 16:21:09
CHI-PHI-NYK

CHI receive Okafor and PHI picks #39,#50

NYK receive Bulls 1st round #16, PHI pick #46

PHI receive NYK 1st round #8, Noah

22 May 2017 16:58:22
Doubt the Bulls would give up the 16th pick for a backup center who can't rebound or block shots.

22 May 2017 18:12:27
Okafor is perfect for the Celtics.

22 May 2017 18:30:29
A backup center that is a decent scorer actually feels about right for the 16th pick. The history of the 16th pick is pretty similar: vucivic, Babbitt, speights, nick young, James Johnson.

I like the move for Chicago. I'm not a fan of Okafor as a starter, but as a backup he's solid. The trade really hinges on the knicks being that desperate to unload Noah. I don't think I would be that desperate, as it means the knicks will continue to try to improve through free agency, which hasn't been incredibly successful for them.

22 May 2017 19:01:49
Shizee. the Celtics who are in the process of being swept? Those Celtics?

22 May 2017 19:39:37
Except the Celtics won last night, so the brooms were put away. ;)

22 May 2017 20:33:21
The key to a multi-team deal is it has to work for all the teams. There's no reason for the Sixers to agree to this. Noah would be a large drag on the salary cap, while riding the bench. Take Noah out, then 3 2nd-rounders for the NYK's pick at #8? I don't think the Knicks would do that. So just take Philly out.

22 May 2017 21:56:54
It makes perfect sense for Phili. They aren't going to sign a big time free agent, why not use their cap space to get a high end asset? Noah's contract expires the same year that Simmons does, so the timeline lines up perfectly.

22 May 2017 22:07:09
I agree. But I think the Bulls won't take Noah. That's why I added the Sixers. Overall 3 2nd-rounders Okafor and the Noah might be enough.
Even if I don't think the Knicks would agree to a straight deal with the sixers.

22 May 2017 23:12:34
I like it for a sixers. even they got noah's contract.

23 May 2017 02:31:37
Noah to Philly is simply idiotic.

23 May 2017 04:27:46
Noah to philly make sense as long as the #8pick is attach. they can use him as third string center. i think theirs no A class free agent will go to sixers next season. maybe after a couple of years, that time philly is a good destination for A class free agent. you can unload noah's expiring contract using a couple of 2nd round picks or 2020 1st okc. and worst of worst a stretch provision (6m a yr) .

21 May 2017 18:59:17
What is happening to the Celtics by the Cavs will definitely change what Boston does this off season

No matter who they threw at LeBron just didn't work so they need someone bigger and more stronger and as much as I don't want to say this... Melo might be that guy..

Boston trades Crowder, 2018 Boston pick, 2017 2-second rd. picks and Jonas Jerebko (S&T)

Knicks trade Melo and W Hernangomez

This allows Boston to either draft #1 or trade down this year or trade this years pick for someone useful..

21 May 2017 20:37:23
I'm far from a Melo hater, but. CARMELO ANTHONY is a Lebron stopper?!?

21 May 2017 21:06:57
Is Melo better than Crowder?
And I didn't say Melo is that guy. "might" is the key word there!

21 May 2017 21:32:59
The only thing that Anthony stops is ball movement. CA can't stop James when he jogs back down the court when he doesn't get the ball on offense.
That doesn't even start to address the question of why the Celtics would waste that kind of money on a declining ISO player and not have the cash left to get the rim defender they need.
If Ainge hits his head on the pavement and decides he wants Anthony, the 2018 first-rounder would probably get it done.

21 May 2017 22:21:36
If I'm Boston I wouldn't even give up Melo for Crowder straight up (in large part due to the 20+ mill salary difference which could basically be Hayward) . Melo is a below average defender and not half the athlete Lebron is. Nobody in the league can really defend Lebron by themselves it takes an entire team (force him to shoot from the outside and get no easy buckets inside) .

21 May 2017 23:48:54
Yea I'd rather have Crowder and his contract over Melo.

21 May 2017 23:58:49
I agree jaws, nobody can defend LBJ. Maybe they shouldn't sign a max FA. Maybe they should trade down and try to get a big man in the process (Orlando)? Let the next year play out and start then. After all, they did get to where they're at with this group of players. Just need a good C.

But I do wish that some people on here would explain or give their own proposals instead of just disagreeing just for the hell it, And you people know who you are. My grandkids do a better job of explaining.

22 May 2017 01:01:56
LOL. OK

What signings or trades will get the C's closer to the finals next year?

22 May 2017 18:27:05
I seen Melo play Lebron better than any Celtics. not in transit but definitely in 1/ 2 court.

21 May 2017 14:15:46
knicks offseason

trade melo to indiana for monta ellis,thaddeus young and cj miles

draft dennis smith

sign
Danilo Gallinari
Darren collison


2017/18 lineup

Darren Collison/Dennis Smith
Courtney Lee/Monta Ellis
Danilo Gallinari/Justin Holiday
Thaddeus Young/Willy Hernangomez
Kristaps Porzingis/Joakim Noah

21 May 2017 15:08:42
Do you really think Anthony will waive his no-trade clause to go to a team that is rebuilding in a city that closes its clubs at 10 pm on weekends?

21 May 2017 18:38:36
Colliders right, no way Melo waives to go to Pacers.

21 May 2017 19:09:25
Supercolider enjoy Celtics sweep. Melo for Crowder getting closer to happening.

22 May 2017 04:17:58
Shizzee -- What sweep are you talking about?

20 May 2017 15:52:55
3 Team Deal:

Sixers Trade: Pick 3, Okafor, Pick 39, 50, 2018 LA unprotected 1st round pick

Sixers Get: Pick 1

Celtics Trade: Pick 1, Jaylen Brown, Avery Bradley

Celtics Get: Jimmy Butler, Pick 39(sixers)

Bulls Trade: Jimmy Butler

Bulls Get: Pick 3, Jaylen Brown, Avery Bradley, LA 2018 pick, Pick 50 (sixers)

-Bulls re-bulid, that simple, it needs to happen
- Celtics really don't need a young Fultz, they'd be better off with an established star in Butler. Sign Hayward in FA
-Sixers give up some future, but they need to start making moves, and Fultz is their guy, Sign Lowry

Celtics Starters:
PG: IT
SG: Jimmy Butler
SF: Hayward
PF: Horford
C: Olynyk


Sixers Starters:
PG: Fultz
SG: Lowry
SF: Simmons
PF: Saric
C: Embiid

20 May 2017 16:13:37
Take out lowry and replace him with reddick and its solid. Just because lowry is from philly doesn't make him a fit. with the addition of fultz and simmons already in place there's no need for lowry and the massive contract he'll demand.

20 May 2017 16:29:54
I think that's too high of a price to move from 3 to 1 in a draft that is talented, but a definite drop off after pick 3. More then a few experts feel J. Jackson may be the best talent in this draft. No eat do I include the lakers unprotwcted next year. Maybe switch it with sixers pick next year (or lesser of the two) . That laker pick could be top 3 again.

19 May 2017 08:17:10
BOS-NOLA

BOS : A.Davis + Q.Pondexter
sign G.Hayward & T.Jones

PG : I.Thomas-T.Rozier
SG : G.Hayward-M.Smart-G.Green
SF : J.Crowder-Q.Pondexter
PF : A.Horford-T.Jones
CE : A.Davis-K.Olynyk

NOLA : 1st overall pick 2017 + J.Brown + A.Bradley + T.Zeller + 2018 BKN 1st round pick + 2nd round pick

PG : M.Fultz-T.Frazier
SG : A.Bradley-J.Crawford
SF : J.Brown-S.Hill
PF : D.Cousins-
CE : T.Zeller-A.Ajinca-O.Asik

19 May 2017 14:53:03
Man please. Just please. You do NOT trade a 1st team all NBA Player for pieces and picks.

19 May 2017 16:28:25
It would take at least one more 1st rounder next year (and still won't get done. Davis isn't going anywhere), but the big issue I see here is that you have Boogie starting at the 4 and ZELLER at the 5. Zeller, while I like him a lot (on the bench), and he can be a solid matchup problem in the exact right game. he's not anywhere close to a starter in this league. Not even for a bad team. The rest of that squad is actually pretty good, but you'd have to bring in someone to play the 4. Brown and Fultz could both be stars, and Bradley is a really good two way player. Cousins is obviously Cousins.

All that said, there's no way NO moves Davis, not even for a fair return. If they're going to move someone it will be Cousins. I could actually see them moving him for something close to this package, as they would essentially getting the #1, Brown and Bradley for Heild and the #10. That's a big win on their end.

19 May 2017 06:19:47
Phi-NYK

PHI receives Noah, Knicks 2017 1st round pick
NYK receives Okafor and best PHI 2017 2nd round pick

19 May 2017 06:55:46
Don't think it takes a #8 pick to move Noah's contract. I don't value Okafor that highly tho, a late 1st rounder at best. Due to his skillset he doesn't project to be more than a good backup like a Kanter or Monroe type.

Knicks aren't likely attracting any top FA even if they move Noah's contract so not sure why they'd give up a valuable pick in a deep draft to do so. They should get their guard of the future (whether that's Smith, Ntilikina or Monk ) with the pick.

19 May 2017 09:06:54
I thought the same. Giving up the 8th pick to unload a contract is too much. But you need to give up a firts round pick. With Okafor and the 2nd rounder you move up some spots. Maybe the 76ers have to add a little more.

19 May 2017 15:17:03
I like this as a start to something as a Sixers fan. okafor plus other pieces/ picks for 8th pick and Noah would work for me.

19 May 2017 19:50:52
If they're giving up the #8 in order to move Noah, something they should definitely consider, they should be able to get back more than just Okafor. There's a few teams out there who've completely shot themselves in the foot when it comes to draft picks, and either have the cap space, or have good contracts that could be swapped for Noah.

19 May 2017 22:43:51
noah and Okafor = equal value.

19 May 2017 05:37:04
Boston/ NY:

To BOS - Porzingis, pick #8

To NYK - Crowder, pick #1

Zinger slides over to the 5, moving Horford to the 4, and gives the C's a young stud at a position of need. Though Crowder's on a bargain deal, the $6M in savings between his and Zingers contracts opens up the final room needed to make a true max offer to Hayward.

Losing Zinger is a tough pill to swallow, but Fultz becomes the new building block. Adding Crowder gives the Knicks Melo's replacement should they be able to deal him.

19 May 2017 06:07:18
Bad for the Knicks.

19 May 2017 06:18:10
If I'm Boston I'm taking that deal and running. I'd prefer giving up Bradley than Crowder for salary reasons (Bradley in final year of contract) but Celtics could deal Bradley in another deal. Porzingis is only 21 and proven to be a star (Fultz may be a star but isn't proven) and Celtics need a big more than another guard (although Porzingis isn't a great rebounder) . Factoring in they are also getting the 8th pick where they could still add a decent guard prospect (Smith, Ntilikina or Monk) I think its a no brainer (I'd consider the deal without the #8 included at all) . Also, this deal still opens the possibility for them acquiring Hayward in FA. Him not making an all-nba team improves the chances he leaves Utah for "greener" pastures in Boston.

Don't like it for the Knicks. They should be able to get this type of return for Porzingis alone and even then I don't like the idea of trading Porzingis. They should just try to move Melo and start the rebuild, draft Smith (or Ntilikina who they seem to prefer for Triangle) and tell Porzingis to suck it up. Knicks won't be a great team anytime soon but maybe after another year in the lottery and a little down the line once the young trio develops they can attract FA (it is NY after all) and make a formidable team.

19 May 2017 15:19:30
If Boston is getting zinger the 8th pick shouldn't need to be added to this senario.

19 May 2017 16:32:08
I'll tell you what's bad for the Knicks.

PHIL JACKSON. He's stunk up the joint since his arrival.

He'll leave before his contract ends and the Knicks are more screwed up than before he got there, 12 million a year to create a more dysfunctional environment. Dolan needs to sell that storied franchise.

Porzingis would be better guided in his career in Boston, they could bring in McHale to teach him how to be great.

Boston just needs to throw in another future 1st rd. pick, Zeller and add Bradley/ Smart and get Lee back. Lee is a great 3pt shooter, consistent, dependable and durable player for 12 mil a year for the next 3 years.

19 May 2017 19:53:23
That's not a smart move for the Knicks. Porzingis is their whole value right now, and they need to get multiple assets back for him. If they're moving him it's either for a bunch of picks, or a bunch of win-now types to play with Melo. This isn't enough of either.

If I'm the Celtics I do this pretty quickly though.

19 May 2017 22:44:23
Thomas 1st for Porzinglis 8th.

19 May 2017 01:32:52
JJ sign n trade

Knicks get Redick, Crawford (last year of contract not guaranteed)

Clippers get Melo, Lee.

19 May 2017 05:29:05
If Clips re-sign Paul, the salaries in this deal don't work. Melo and Lee are about $41M, assuming JJ gets $18M, him and Crawford are $32M.

Also, though the Knicks are obviously trying to get out from underneath Melo, I don't see this as a great return.

Finally, Phil has said part of the reason for wanting to move Melo is that he does not feel that the Knicks will be real contenders for a couple of years. That means that:

A) Why would Reddick want to accept a sign and trade to New York.

B) Why would the Knicks want two guys on the wrong side of 30 without getting one younger asset back.

19 May 2017 06:51:56
Clippers would be wise to try and get Melo as he would be a great fit and i think a relatively cheap option to get asset wise. Lee is also a very solid 3 and D role player. That would be a great return for the Clippers.

They could just balloon Reddicks first year salary to make it work. I don't see Knicks getting much in return for Melo and not a lot of teams being interested but this still isn't intriguing for Knicks since they don't get cap relief or young assets. They'd be better off keeping Melo and letting his deal expire than giving Reddick a sizeable contract which due to his age he'd probably want multiple years.

18 May 2017 23:30:50
Knicks - Lakers

Knicks gets: Russell, Deng, Brewer, 2019 and 2020 2nd round picks

Lakers gets: Anthony

Knicks rebuild without Melo and take on some bad contracts for a young piece in Russell and 2 picks.

Lakers 2018 pick is unprotected so they need to win some games next year and drafting Ball and trading for Melo gives them a better chance of making the playoffs.

19 May 2017 03:31:30
Not a wise move for Lakers. Although Melo is a much better player Melo has a bigger contract than Deng does which hurts Lakers flexibility. Russell is way too much to give up for Melo. Jackson tanked Melo's value and if Lakers really want Melo (they shouldn't) then they should be able to get him for considerably less than this. Melo would just hurt the development of their young guys especially when they have Ingram, Nance and Randle at the sf/ pf position.

The fact that Lakers 2018 pick is unprotected isn't a logical reason to make a bad trade. Sure nobody wants to be giving up the #1 pick but Lakers shouldn't mess up their own team to win a few more games (Melo wouldn't make that big a difference; Knicks tied for 6th worst record in the league) .

18 May 2017 15:42:25
NY-BOS

NY trades: Noah-Porzingis-O'Quinn-Kuzminkas-#8pick

BOS trades: Horford-Thomas-Mickey-2017 Minny 2nd-2018 top 5 protected C's 1st-2019 Clippers 1st-2019 detroit 2nd-2020 Miami 2nd

Boston can build a super team with all these great young players.

Knicks get two veterans and with Melo form a great big 3 that could push Cleveland for the East.

18 May 2017 17:24:18
swap 1st round picks and uniforms. even trade.

18 May 2017 17:33:22
That would be one direction the Celtics could go, and it could give them a crazy core with Porzingis, Fultz, Brown, Yabusele, Smart, Zizic, Rozier, maybe Monk or Isaac at 8, etc.

Fultz/ Rozier/ Jackson
Bradley/ Smart/ Monk
Crowder/ Brown/ Kuzminskas/ Nader
Porzingis/ Yabusele
O'Quinn/ Hernangomez/ Zizic

That's a very interesting young team, even while taking away the two top players. I don't see DA going for it though, since they're already near the summit with assets still coming in. If Porzingis was actually available, I think they'd be foolish not to look into sending NY a package that DIDN'T include IT, Horford, Brown or the #1. Send just about anything else. They have enough assets that Jackson might be willing to take bulk over individual quality.

18 May 2017 17:50:09
Celtics are not going to go into a rebuild situation with young talent. They are in a win now mode. They need to stay the course and acquire Hayward, or Butler who I'd prefer and get a big (Drummond, Whiteside) .

18 May 2017 08:36:15
76ers-Celtics-Twolves


76ers get Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller, and #7 pick (via MIN)
-Draft Malik Monk
Lineup:
PG: Simmons, McConnell, Baylee
SG: Bradley, Monk, Luwawu
SF: Covington, Anderson
PF: Saric, (Veteran)
C: Embiid, Holmes, Zeller


Celtics get Gorgui Dieng
-Sign Gordon Hayward
-Draft Markelle Fultz
Lineup:
PG: Thomas, Fultz, Rozier
SG: Hayward, Smart
SF: Crowder, Brown
PF: Dieng, Yabusele, Mickey
C: Horford, (Olynyk or Johnson)


Twolves get #3 pick and Jahlil Okafor
-Trade Andrew Wiggins to Orlando for Aaron Gordon, Mario Hezonja, and #33 pick
-Draft Josh Jackson
Lineup:
PG: Rubio, Dunn, Jones
SG: LaVine, Hezonja
SF: Jackson, (veteran)
PF: Gordon, Bjelica
C: Towns, Okafor, Aldrich.

18 May 2017 10:27:53
That Orlando trade us soooooooooo terrible for Minnesota it's funny. Aaron Gordan is grossly overrated and Mario Hezonja has practically done nothing in the league. Wiggins is a star if Minnesota were to even think about that trade it would have to include the 6th pick. I still wouldn't do it if I'm Minnesota. Take out Wiggins and put in Lavine.

18 May 2017 14:43:36
I think Minnesota would need to give more in the three way deal. But it's close.

18 May 2017 17:49:08
Dieng is a nice player and frankly better than anyone else on Boston's front line, but seems like the Celts have bigger fish to fry -- especially if Bradley is in the deal.

18 May 2017 06:33:13
MIN-IND-BOS

MIN : 1st pick + J.Crowder + M.Smart
draft M.Fultz & J.Isaac
sign B.Griffin

PG : M.Fultz-K.Dunn-T.Jones
SG : Z.LaVine-M.Smart-B.Rush
SF : J.Crowder-S.Muhammad
PF : B.Griffin-J.Isaac
CE : K.Towns-C.Aldrich

IND : A.Wiggins + R.Rubio + MIN 1st 2019 (protected) + BOS own 1st 2018

PG : R.Rubio-J.Young
SG : A.Wiggins-M.Ellis
SF : C.Miles-G.R3
PF : T.Young-draft
CE : M.Turner-A.Jefferson

BOS : P.George + G.Dieng

PG : I.Thomas-T.Rozier
SG : A.Bradley-G.Green
SF : P.George-J.Jerebko
PF : A.Horford-K.Olynyk
CE : G.Dieng-T.Zeller

18 May 2017 14:00:18
Minnesota should keep their pick and then Boston adds another non Brooklyn pick to the Pacers.

18 May 2017 14:07:52
why does ny loose position in the draft for their return. Boston Brooms are ready to come out.

18 May 2017 16:32:27
I don't know if I give that much up for George. I think he'd be the perfect player for Boston, and I like his fit there even better than Butler, but I really don't know if he'd stay. He really wants to go to LA, so I'd need some sort of extension guarantee from him to give up the #1 plus those guys.

18 May 2017 06:07:47
BOS-MIA-NY

BOS : C.Anthony + H.Whiteside + 8th pick

PG : I.Thomas-M.Smart
SG : A.Bradley-M.Monk (8th)
SF : C.Anthony-G.Green
PF : A.Horford-K.Olynyk
CE : H.Whiteside-T.Zeller

MIA : J.Noah + 1st overall pick + T.Rozier + future 2nd from NY
draft M.Fultz

PG : M.Fultz-T.Rozier
SG : G.Dragic-J.Richardson
SF : J.Winslow-R.McGruder
PF : J.Johnson-J.Sullinger (sign)
CE : J.Noah-W.Reed

NY : 14th pick + J.McRoberts + T.Johnson + J.Crowder

PG : T.Johnson-R.Baker
SG : C.Lee-T.Ferguson (14th)-J.Holiday
SF : J.Crowder-L.Thomas
PF : K.Porzingis-M.Kuzminkas
CE : W.Hernangomez-K.Oquinn

18 May 2017 06:13:37
Boston can't take on all that salary unless they give up Horford.

18 May 2017 16:33:19
Even if it worked financially, no. just no.

18 May 2017 03:41:54
OKC Off-season

LAC / OKC / NYK Trade

LAC Trades: Blake Griffin (Sign and Trade), 2020 2nd Rounder (CLE)
LAC Receives: C. Anthony, Singler

OKC Trades: Kanter, Singler, Sabonis, 2018 2nd Round PIck (CHI)
OKC Receives: Blake Griffin (Sign and Trade)

NYK Trades: C. Anthony
NYK Receives: Kanter, Sabonis, 2018 2nd Round PIck (CHI), 2020 2nd Rounder (CLE)


LAL / OKC Trade

LAL Trades: 28th Pick
OKC Trades: D. McDermott (and maybe a future second round pick if needed)

Draft:
21st: Harry Giles
28th: Jawun Evans

Sign:
Jeff Green (Vets Min)
Roberson (Match his offer sheet)
Hibbert (Vets Min)
Taj Gibson (Loves OKC and so he may take a mil or two less than his market value to come back)

OKC 2017-18 Team
PG - Westbrook / J. Evans / Christon
SG - Abrines / Oladipo / D. Hamilton
SF - Roberson / J. Grant / Huestis
PF - B. Griffin / Taj Gibson / Jeff Green
C - S. Adams / H. Giles / Collison

This team would have blake who is a playmaker and has a great post game. He also isn't straight garbage on defense as Kanter is. They also have youth still and are great at developing young players through their team. They could develop Giles and Evans and the others they currently have. Gibson would be brought back to help the second unit with energy and defense. He would also help teach the young players in that unit. Lastly, this starting lineup with Gibson last year when on the floor, were ranked in the top 5 (Check it out for yourself if you don't believe me). Also, this off-season Oladipo can work with coaches and others on his playmaking and can run the second unit with gibson as J. Evans (The OSU kid) develops. They are starting Abrines because they need his shooting and hopefully his Defense gets a little better during the offseason. If not, he can be helped by Westbrook, Roberson and Adams.

Tell me what you think....

18 May 2017 04:58:48
love it u genius as okc fan hope it happens.

18 May 2017 03:19:59
LAC / OKC / NYK

LAC Trades: Blake Griffin (Sign and Trade), 2020 2nd Rounder (CLE)
LAC Receives: C. Anthony, Singler

OKC Trades: Kanter, Singler, Sabonis, 2018 2nd Round PIck (CHI)
OKC Receives: Blake Griffin (Sign and Trade)

NYK Trades: C. Anthony
NYK Receives: Kanter, Sabonis, 2018 2nd Round PIck (CHI), 2020 2nd Rounder (CLE)

Reason LAC Does the Trade: They do this if Griffin says he is leaving and then they can get another star to pair with CP3 and Jordan. Also, then they don't have to get rid of Crawford or Rivers or any other pieces.
Reason OKC Does the Trade: They do this to not only get rid of Kanter's contract, but also to get a star to pair with Westbrook. They will also have to get rid of Sabonis who has a bright future, but get a star that is in his prime to pair with Westbrook.
Reason NYK Does the Trade: NYK do this to not only get rid of Anthony, but also to get in a 24 year old big that is a defensive liability, but also would be perfect for the triangle offense if the Knicks plan to keep running it. Also they get Sabonis and a few late draft picks. You may say the knicks could maybe get better returns for Anthony, but at the end of the day, Anthony still has to agree to go to the place. He might not want to go to Boston, or any other places, you don't know. There has been interest in going to LA to play with Paul though and Jordan can cover for his defense.

Tell me what you think about this trade. Also maybe you can add other small picks to the deal to make it work, but this was just thought of kinda quick.

18 May 2017 03:15:32
Celtics have too many guards and NEED another big man

Bos-Det

Det trades: Drummond

Boston trades: Bradley-Zeller-Rozier-Mickey 2018 Brooklyn (Top 5 protected turns into 2018 C's 1st and 2020 C's 1st) 2019 Clippers 1st 2017 Clippers 2nd 2019 Detroit 2nd and 2020 Miami 2nd

WHY?

Detroit gets 2-3 1st round picks, a all nba defensive player who scores 17 a game, a growing prospect in Rozier and two players totalling 10 million in salary that can be cut at anytime, and 3 2nd rounders. All this together they can rebuild and continue to grow.

Boston gets their rim protecting/rebounding big they NEED as well as relieve the log jam of guards

DET
PG-KCP/Rozier/Smith
SG-Bradley/Jackson/Hilliard
SF-Harris/Johnson/Bullock
PF-Morris/Leuer/Ellenson
C-Collins (12 pick)/Baynes/Boban

BOS
PG-Thomas/Smart/Jackson
SG-Fultz/Young/FA
SF-Crowder/Brown/Nader
PF-Horford/Yabusele/FA
C-Drummond/Olynyk/Zizic

What do you think?

18 May 2017 20:43:37
You hold the guns to their heads and I'll be lookout from my computer. Detroit Doesn't want to be in limbo for 3 years while this plays out. But hey, I'm all for it. Then trade for Butler.

18 May 2017 01:52:36
Spurs get Melo CP3-EXT Hill Plumlee Ndour
Knicks get Parker Green Gasol Aldrich
Clippers get Rubio Pekovic
Wolves get Aldridge Noah Randle 29

Playoff team
Dunn/Jones/Randle
Lavine/Fox-7th/Iwundu-29
Wiggens/Muhammed/Casspi
Aldridge/Dieng/Bjelica
KAT/Noah/Payne

Deeper team with Gay better spacing.
Rubio/Rivers/Felton
Reddick/Crawford/Andersen
Gay/Johnson/Fa
Griffin/Moute/Johnson
Jordan/Speights/Stone

Challenge warriors
CP3/Mills/Murray
CLAW/Anderson/Forbes
Melo/Bertans/Ndour
Milsap/Lee/Bosh
Dedmon/Hill/Plumlee

Rebuild unity in triangle clear cap 2018
Parker/Ntilikini-8th/White-58th
Lee/Thornwell-44th/Early
Green/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Gasol/O'Quinn/Inglis
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Aldrich

17 May 2017 21:40:58
Boston Celtics Offseason:

1) Draft Fultz
2) Sign Hayward
3) Trade for Andre Drummond

1 & 2 are very possible options that can easily happen... 3 is where it gets interesting but it's known that Drummond can be obtained via trade. Detroit is looking to restart and get a new identity. SO:
Drummond for Crowder, Rozier, and picks if needed (future 1sts Clippers, Grizzlies or own pick).

Depth Chart:
IT/Fultz
AB/Smart
Hayward/Brown
Horford/Olynyk (if can go into hard cap)
Drummond/FA (vet min)

17 May 2017 22:25:40
Drummond is not a FA, he's signed for another 3years.

Taking Fultz will cost money being the #1 pick. So I see that pick getting moved to save money and to get what they need. A BIG.

So unless Crowder will play the 2 spot he will be moved if they do sign Hayward and if they keep Crowder then AB will be traded.

17 May 2017 23:44:41
Why would Detroit give up Drummond for that return. I think Detroit would want at least the 2018 Brooklyn pick involved (ideally the 2017 #1 Brooklyn pick) . Maybe they could get away with a deal centered around Jaylen Brown if they added enough around him.

Crowder, Rozier and those non-Nets picks won't cut it.

Signing Hayward isn't as straight forward as it seems since Celtics won't have the 30.6 mill max he'll demand. Ignoring all FA cap holds (Green, Jerekbo, Olynk, Johnson and Young), their draft picks (#1, Yabusele and Zizic) and waiving Jackson, Mickey and Zeller they'd have 36 mill. That drops to 29 mill with cap hold for #1 pick. Therefore if Celtics wanted Hayward and to keep some guys on their bench they'd basically need to trade AD (which is smart since he, IT and Smart are all due extensions next offseason) .

18 May 2017 03:09:05
Zelts. My bad, I didn't see the slash after Drummonds name. just saw the FA vet min. Sorry!

But I'm all for Drummond to Boston. They could sure use him now, down by 24 in the 3rd.

17 May 2017 15:29:16
Orl & Dal
I think the top 10 goes like this.

Bos- Fultz
Lal- Ball
Phi- Jackson or Tatum
Pho- Jackson or Tatum
Sac- Issac
Orl-Fox
Min- Markkanen
Nyk- Monk
Dal- Smith Jr
Sac- Ntilikina

Orl get 9th pick and 2018 pick top 5 protected.
Draft: Smith Jr

Dal get 6th pick
Draft: Markkanen

Orl do it to add a Pg of the future if he can stay healthy and future pick as they need to get assets after 5 years of bad luck in the draft their still no closer to getting their star.

Dal have been high on Markkanen due to the ideal fit next to Noel and the learning from Dirk but I'd say with Sac taken 5th they will likely take a forward as it's likely the 10th pick will be a guard and that limits Min options as everyone had them taking Issac and with him off the board Markkanen seems the best fit so by doing this trade they get their guy.

17 May 2017 22:12:48
I don't like the value for Dallas especially when many other teams (maybe not Dallas) have Zach Collins, who can also be a stretch big, higher than Markkanen. Regardless I don't think Ferrel is the long term answer for them at pg so Mavs are probably better off getting Smith (Knicks may take him tho) as point guard is a much more important position than pf. They could then try and nab someone like Nikola Mirotic in RFA.

 
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