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17 Jun 2019 11:55:55
NYK/UTA

NYK get 2nd round pick

UTA get Ntilikina

NYK/ATL

NYK get 35th pick

ATL get Thomas & one of DAL 1st

after those deals NYK will have only 26mil in contract

draft RJ Barrett (3rd pick)

around 73mil in cap space

sign Kyrie Irving & Jimmy Butler to max contracts

sign Jeff Green min
sign Marcus Morris MLE

resign DeAndre Jordan

Pg Irving/Mudiay
Sg Butler/Trier/Jenkins
Sf Barrett/Dotson/Green
Pf Morris/Knox
Ce Jordan/Robinson

17 Jun 2019 13:10:57
Not giving up a Dallas 1st when I can just cut Thomas for $1M.

Don’t think Kyrie is coming, and Butler would be a bad move if he were to be the only one to sign. Look at his Wolves tenure for my justification.

17 Jun 2019 16:03:16
The Knicks are in for another year of tanking. I don’t see the point of trying to save money. It seems like even a B level guys like Butler are free agent pipe dreams at this point.

17 Jun 2019 18:41:29
How do you know when the Knicks are tanking?

17 Jun 2019 19:38:10
When they step out on the floor to play.

17 Jun 2019 10:58:14
Kings-Rockets-Heat

Kings out: Barnes, Bjelica, Giles
Kings in: Capela, Johnson, 1st rd pick Rockets

get a center that will fit in

Fox/Ferrell
Hield
Bogdanovic/
Bagley/Johnson
Capela/

Rockets out: Capela, Paul, 1st rd pick
Rockets in: Whiteside, Dragic, Bjelica
- they get rid of Paul in expense of Capela and a 1st. They got players that could help them compete

Dragic/Rivers
Harden/Gordon
Tucker/House
Bjelica/Faried
Whiteside/Nene

Heat out: Dragic, Whiteside, Johnson
Heat in: Paul, Barnes, Giles

Paul/13th pick
Richardson/Waiters
Winslow/Jones
Barnes/Olynyk
Adebayo/Giles

17 Jun 2019 13:34:41
Not sure how this helps the Kings. Kings trade a better shooting wing forward and a young big for a better big and a lesser wing forward and a late 2020 first rounder. And I won't talk about the future cap flexibility the Kings loose as well.

17 Jun 2019 05:43:19
Knicks trade Rj Barret and Frank Ntilikina to Wizards for Brad Beal

Sign Demarcus Cousins

17 Jun 2019 06:43:21
Cousins is hurt or doesn't win.

17 Jun 2019 10:07:10
Not nearly enough for an established star like Beal.
Cousins needs to be on a really good team, where fits in. You cannot build around him.

17 Jun 2019 10:40:44
Knicks don't need to trade for Beal when cap space to sign 2 max free agents. Middleton, Durant, Thompson and Butler.

17 Jun 2019 13:40:31
Shiller, sounds like you are describing the Knicks as well.

18 Jun 2019 01:54:53
Wizards not trading beal so stop it they told everyone 3 days ago.

17 Jun 2019 01:14:04
Knicks/ Blazers

To NYK - Pick 25 (Turner

To POR - Ntilikina

With KD’s prospects of playing next season slim, Knicks #1 priority ruins the rest of the offseason, whether they sign him or not. Why not tank again next year, get another high pick, and still have the cap space that ET’s deal gives you with an additional young asset at 25.

Portland gives themselves plenty of breathing room below the tax, and takes a flyer that Frank can at least become offensively proficient enough to use as a rotation player. Worst case, they can use his defensive prowess.

16 Jun 2019 13:28:48
Knicks Realistic plan after Durant injury.

2 trade
Smithjr Knox Trier Ntilikina
For
17th 35th 41st 42nd


Young/SmithJr/Ntilikina
Bazemore/Heurter/Trier
Bembry/Knox/Crabbe
Collins/Spellman/Prince
Fernando-10/Hayes-8/Len

Barrett NY & Dal 21 & 23
For
D.Mitchell

16 Jun 2019 14:35:40
You’re not getting Mitchell. The Knicks are likely screwed. The KP trade is looking rough.

16 Jun 2019 15:53:09
Looks like another down year at MSG.

16 Jun 2019 15:43:59
KP, racist women beater, after Isiah incident knicks took no chances. Go play for the person Cuban. Who wants a 7'4" who tears his knee without contact. They got 2 1st, dumped Lee and Hardaway and Smithjr in return.

Barrett 4 1st for Mitchell is fair value trade. You can sign any 2 max contracts butler and harris to Leonard and Durant. Randolph type at pf for 4yr 56mil. Vonleh mle

Mitchell/ Edwards-35/ Ponds-p/ u
Leonard/ Alexander-17/ Dawkins-p/ u
Durant/ Melo/ Dotsons
Randolph/ Vonleh/ Hoard-55
Robinson/ Gafford-41/ Fall-42.

16 Jun 2019 18:44:56
Feeling it all slipping away, huh?

Give Knicks a 50/ 50 chance at being worse team in the league next year.

16 Jun 2019 21:04:53
Why do Harris and Butler want to come play on a rubbishty team. They could just stay in philly and be on a good team or either could go to Brooklyn with Kyrie and play on a significantly better team. The Knicks are going to get like Vucevic and Bogdanovic.

16 Jun 2019 00:52:28
I think what happen will be:

Leonard may stay in Toronto or go to the Clippers?

Probably New York will trade:

- NY: Davis
- NO: BARRETT, Smith, Know, Robinson

NY signs Irving and Durant.

If not Irving and Durant will go to Brooklyn and AD may end up at Lakers somehow.

New Orleans will have a amazing young core in Robinson, Zion, (Randle maybe), Knox, Johnson, Barrett, Smith and Holiday or a return of him (maybe Suns pic to take White PG ?)

Since the Lakers will sign Butler and Cousins.

So the Mavs should target signs or trade:

Drummond or Valenciunas (Randle?)
Leonard, Middleton, Brogdon, Amuni or Lamb
Walker, Russell or Rubio.

A trade proposal will follow up!

16 Jun 2019 02:04:16
Well, that didn't take long to be wrong.

16 Jun 2019 03:26:22
AD is already a Laker.

16 Jun 2019 04:45:24
Ad to lakers is official.

15 Jun 2019 17:01:56
If GS starts a rebuilt

1) GS-NO
NO: S Curry
GS: 1rnd pick + S hill+ Moore

2)GS-Clippers S&T
GS: Gallinari+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2020+ Shamet
clippers: K Thompson

3)Miami-GS
Miami: K Durant
GS:Olynyk+Waiters+J Johnson+1rnd pick Miami


4)GS-Was:
Was:D green
GS:Mahinmi+1rnd pick Was


GS draft:
NO pick:Z Williamson
WAS pick:Hashimura
Miami pick:T Herro
GS pick:C Edwards

C:Looney/Olynyk/Mahinmi
PF:Z williamson/ J Johnson/Gallinari
SF:McKinnie/Hashimuro/Iguodala
SG:Waiters/Herro/ Moore
PG:Shamet/C Edwards/ S Livingston

15 Jun 2019 18:36:15
In what world are you rebuilding when you have 4 all stars on your team?

15 Jun 2019 19:22:36
Durant is gone, but those trades are horrible.

15 Jun 2019 20:34:10
Especially the Miami one 🤨.

16 Jun 2019 11:52:07
Curry is very valuable player jrue holiday plus 3 first round pick maybe 4.

13 Jun 2019 21:33:26
Okc complete rebuild

Lakers - PG
Thunder - Ingram Hart Wagner 4th

Heat - Westbrook
Thunder - Dragic Johnson 13th

Hornets - Adams
Thunder - Batum Monk 36

Jazz - Schroder
Thunder - Exum 23

Thunder draft
4 - Garland
13 - Bol Bol
21 - Fernando
23 - Claxton
36 - Schofield

Garland/Dragic/Exum
Batum/Monk/Ferguson
Ingram/Hart/Schofield
Grant/Claxton/Patterson
Bol Bol/Fernando/Wagner

Ball/PG/Lebron/Kuzma/FA

Westbrook/Richardson/Winslow/Olynyk/
Whiteside

Walker/Langford/Bridges/Williams/Adams

Schroder/Mitchell/Ingles/Crowder/Gobert

13 Jun 2019 19:05:44
Knicks decide to win now even not getting KD and kyrie. The trade pick and few guys to Memphis gor conely. They sign boogie and butler.

13 Jun 2019 16:35:38
The Cavs get Schroeder, Roberson(expiring), Diallo, Ferguson, Anderson(expiring), J Johnson, Waiters, the 13, the 21, and the Thunder 24 1st top 10 protected

OKC gets Love, Olynyk and Richardson

The Heat get Grant, Patterson(expiring), Smith(waive), Knight(expiring), Clarkson(expiring), save 27 million this year and 42 million next year.

13 Jun 2019 22:09:08
Bad deal for Cavs. They take on 2 years of bad contracts with Waiters, Johnson, and Schroeder. They can get 13th for JR right now. They will get future 1st for Knight and Clarkson next season. That means they are giving Love away, they won't do that.

13 Jun 2019 01:23:16
I know NYK would never help Lakers in era their chances of getting AD but this is if they prefer Culver over Barrett

Lakers - 3rd
Knicks - 4th Wagner Bonga and 2021 1st

Lakers - AD
Grizzlies - 3rd (get 2 future stars)
Pelicans - JJJ Kuzma Ingram and D.Brooks

Ball
D.Green
Lebron
Ariza
AD

Holiday
Ingram
Kuzma
Zion
JJJ

Grizzlies build around Morant and Barrett

13 Jun 2019 01:29:17
JJJ is better than the third to me.

13 Jun 2019 01:38:47
Grizzlies already have 2 future stars when they draft Morant.

13 Jun 2019 01:52:20
Agree Shiller JJJ is really good already and has a ton of upside.

13 Jun 2019 02:20:02
You think Jackson will be star?

13 Jun 2019 02:28:52
And maybe a third if conely trade happens.

13 Jun 2019 03:23:58
JJJ>Barett.

Every time I see Barett, I see Wiggins coming out of Kansas.

12 Jun 2019 20:12:27
the No-trade scenario for Knicks..,

They are loaded with funds, so... (in addition to maneuvering other possible funds) complete the following:

Knicks can literally ignore every team and all trade shenanigans and just go crazy on July 1st all by themselves...

Sign KD
Sign Patrick Beverly
Sign Marcus Morris
Sign Markief Morris
Sign JJ Redick

and sign our draft pick RJ Barrett.

12 Jun 2019 20:22:45
And that team misses the playoffs next year.

12 Jun 2019 21:02:19
In the east?

12 Jun 2019 21:06:38
Those guys you want to sign are better than the trash on the roster now, but like Fredman says, it's still no better than 10th in the conference.

12 Jun 2019 21:31:52
Better off signing KD, punting the space, and tanking next year.

12 Jun 2019 20:37:22
A, they won’t be able to land all of those players for $72M, but B, if they could, how does a team set up like this miss the playoffs Fredman? :

Beverley, Smith Jr.
Barrett, Reddick
KD, Knox
Morris, Morris
Robinson

That doesn’t even include Trier or Dotson, and likely landing a quality backup Center on a vet deal.

12 Jun 2019 23:51:21
Bc KD isn’t going to play next season.

13 Jun 2019 00:13:01
KD may not opt out of Golden State.

12 Jun 2019 12:01:24
MEM/NYK/NOP

MEM get Knox, Smith jr, Thomas, DAL 1st

Pg Morant
Sg Smith
Sf Knox
Pf Jackson
Ce Valanciunas

NYK get Davis
Sign Kemba & Butler

Pg Kemba
Sg Butler
Sf Dotson
Pf Davis
Ce Jordan

NOP get Conley, Robinson, 3rd pick, DAL 1st, 2021 NY 1st

Pg Conley
Sg Holiday
Sf Barrett
Pf Zion
Ce Robinson

12 Jun 2019 12:17:30
Awesome for the Knicks, but Grizz and Pels take it on the chin.

12 Jun 2019 12:54:00
Reality is setting in on the Celtics, bitter old nemesis.

12 Jun 2019 16:41:27
Kemba has said he's not interested in the Knicks. As long as Charlotte pays him the max, he'll stay there.

12 Jun 2019 19:42:55
Oh I actually like it for Memphis.

11 Jun 2019 00:24:09
SAS/NOLA/NYK

SAS get Kevin Knox, Dennis Smith Jr, Lance Thomas & 1 of DAL picks

Pg Murray/Forbes
Sg Smith/White/Walker
Sf Knox/Bellineli/Thomas
Pf Gay/Bertans
Ce Aldridge/Poeltl

NOLA get 3rd pick, Derozan, Robinson, DAL & NYK future 1st

Pg Holiday/Payton
Sg Derozan/Moore/Clark
Sf Barrett/Johnson
Pf Williamson/Hill
Ce Robinson/Okafor

NYK get Davis

Pg Irving/Ntilikina
Sg Trier/Dotson
Sf Durant
Pf Davis
Ce Jordan

11 Jun 2019 04:04:40
I don’t see why the Pelicans would want Derozan. He’s a bad fit with Jrue and Zion. Plus you have them giving up significant assets in the trade to get him.

10 Jun 2019 20:13:51
Knicks trade 3rd pick, Robinson, Smith Jr, Thomas, Dallas pick 2021 (unprotected)
Knicks get Davis
- sign KD & Irving

Pelicans trade Davis, Hill
Pelicans get Beal, Robinson, Dallas pick 2021 (unprotected)
- build around Zion, Beal, Holiday, Robinson
- immediat playoff contender

Wizards trade Beal
Wizards get 3rd pick, Smith Jr, Thomas(use trade exception), Hill
- start rebuild

10 Jun 2019 20:36:28
Those Knicks players don't come close to getting you Davis.

10 Jun 2019 22:02:40
Trade #3 for #8, #10 and #17

Send 8 to Washongton and 10 + 17 to New Orleans.

10 Jun 2019 22:43:13
Throw Knox in to Pelicans.

11 Jun 2019 05:23:17
Fredman, if you suggesting that the 8th DSJ, Thomas, and hill is enough for Beal, I disagree. Also, Atlanta would probably not trade all 3 picks. I think that if the Knicks give Dallas 2023 pick to the pelicans in addition and take out Thomas, all teams would agree.

10 Jun 2019 01:11:10
With Kyrie trending towards the Knicks, the Hornets seemingly intent on offering Kemba the SuperMax, and the Pelicans possibly preferring other packages, it’s probably a good idea to think about contingency plans for the Knicks landing win now pieces to go around KD.

Knicks send #3 pick and Lance Thomas
Raptors send Pascal Siakam and Fred Vanfleet

This is worth it for the Knicks because Pascal is young and cost controlled coming out of his rookie deal and into his 2nd contract. He’s also got everything you need out of the modern player and can help shield KD from having to guard the best wing of the other team. Plus the Knicks get Finals hero VanFleet on a deal worth only 8 mil a year. Makes sense for the Raptors if Kawai walks because it kicks off a strong rebuild with a Canadian centerpiece in Barrett.

I know this is going to be the controversial one because Siakam doesn’t seem like the kinda guy you would want for 3 but I think that kind of role player, essentially filling the Draymond-ish role, is invaluable. Also, our expectations for rookies is also ridiculous, for example if Marvin Bagley ends up with a career like Siakam, that’s a win if you ask me, and that’s a way better draft class.

Then
Knicks send Frank Ntilikina and Kevin Knox
Spurs send Demar DeRozan.

Spurs are said to be trying to move DeRozan ahead of FA especially when the franchise is ready to unleash their new look young backcourt in Murray and White. Here, they get 2 high upside prospects including a forward which they desperately need. Knicks get a true second star and guy who loves to playmake and would be highly likely to resign.

Maybe not the depth chart of dreams Knick fans envisioned but a really solid team with some interesting line ups.

DSJ/ Vanfleet
DeRozan
KD
Pascal
Deandre Jordan (resigned) / Mitchell Robinson

Go Small:
Vanfleet
DSJ
DeRozan
KD
Pascal

It’s a team with a ton of playmaking, tons of rim protection, and decent spacing. KD could go back and forth between walking supernova and ultimate off-ball threat. This team would immediately be in the top tier of the East. I think they match up well with the Bucks but probably not as well against the 6ers.

10 Jun 2019 04:17:04
Be patient. The orderlies will be by with your medicine any minute now.

10 Jun 2019 05:08:45
I like Pascal and Vanfleet so that's not a bad trade if, and big if, a top free agent signs with NY. If KD doesn't sign with NY, Kyrie won't sign. I don't think Kawhi is leaving Toronto yet, if he does it will be to Clippers. Maybe Knicks get Butler and someone like Cousins or Gasol. I doubt that happens, and NY still won't be title contender if it does.

Package for DeRozen is a joke. Those are not 2 high upside prospects, an average prospect and a bust.

10 Jun 2019 11:57:05
Siakim is not being dealt for pick 3, guy is about to become a multi time All-Star.

10 Jun 2019 11:59:09
Kyrie Irving is trending toward the Nets, not the Knicks. ;)

10 Jun 2019 16:12:02
Toronto isn’t moving either of those guys.

13 Jun 2019 20:09:29
yah looks good but leonardo is going to resign 2 year player option. and Raptors will keep the same team to repeat if they win tonight game 6. and . big and they should trade Powell for shooters. bring in Seth curry resign green and bring in more young players to help with speed and length.

09 Jun 2019 07:03:33
Wizards get SmithJr Ntilikina Knox Trier Moore Hill
Pelicans get Beal Robinson Hunter-4 Hayes-9 dal & ny 21 & 23 Wall Dotson
Knicks get Davis

Wizards loose an allstar and a top 10 pick to press the reset button and pay john wall 179 mil.

Smithjr/Ntilikina/Randle
Moore/Trier/Dotson
Knox/T.Brownjr/Hill
Porter/Green/Dekker
Mahinmi/Bryant/Howard

Pelicans lose Davis to build a deeper team. While taking on Wall contract is bad, if he sit 1 full yr. He could come back at high level as 3rd man rotation to Beal and Holiday.

Holiday/Payton/Jackson
Beal/Miller/Wall
Hunter-4/Johnson/Williams
Zion/Hayes-9/Konate-50
Robinson/Okafor/Fall-37

Knicks risk everything for Davis which will draw Kevin and Kawhi for 4yr 120 mil. Jordan 4yr 40mil. Beverly mle Vonleh bi annual. Vet minimum Kornet.

Beverly/McConnell/Ponds-p/u
Leonard/JrSmith/Co.Martin-p/u
Durant/Dawkins-55/Ca.Martin-p/u
Vonleh/Melo/Ellenson
Davis/Jordan/Kornet

09 Jun 2019 13:19:02
I believe the knicks have the best shot in the Davis trade, but i don't think Washingon would do this.

09 Jun 2019 14:59:40
If boston trades up with their picks and package that pick with Tatum, that package gets AD.

09 Jun 2019 15:06:35
A Tatum that did not grow in his second year and a pick higher than 3rd as none of the teams with the first three picks are going to move to the C’s is the best package?

Enough overvaluing the C’s young talent. I would have agreed after Tatum’s 1st season, but he has lost a little luster.

09 Jun 2019 16:17:09
Knicks and Lakers should trade a bunch of names back and forth to make it look like they're doing something. These Knicks players, especially, hold little value.

09 Jun 2019 16:45:48
The old broken record, supercollider who wanted smithjr for J. brown Christmas day has spoken again. What a 🤪.

09 Jun 2019 19:44:39
If Boston can get up to 6 or 7. I think New Orleans finds Tatum + #7 better than what Knox + #3 or Ingram + #4.

09 Jun 2019 20:53:56
Tatum equals barret. I agree if celts get 6 or 7 they can get AD.

08 Jun 2019 23:51:19
Pelicans get #8, #10, #17, Dennis Smith, Mitchell Robinson

Hawks get Nkitlina, #3

Knicks get Anthony Davis and Solomon Hill

This helps kick of the rebuilding process for New Orleans in a huge way.
The Knicks get their guy in AD and hope it helps them land another star.
Hawks get #3 pick to put RJ with Trae, get to try out a young backup 1/ 2 guard for a year for depth.

09 Jun 2019 01:34:11
Sooo in order to get #3 the Hawks have to give up 8, 20, 17 and take on Ntilinkina's guarenteed salary? No thanks!

Plus, I have a feeling Atlanta is more after Culver or Hunter than Barrett. No need to move all the way up to 3 for those guys.

09 Jun 2019 03:47:07
Great deal for Knicks.

09 Jun 2019 16:18:47
If the Knicks pull off that deal, whoever is running the team these days should get the Executive of the Year award named after him.

08 Jun 2019 20:32:10
Suns trade pg t. Johnson and sf josh Jackson to Memphis for pg mike conley to knicks for sf lance Thomas and to suns sg allonzo trier and pg frank ntilikina

08 Jun 2019 02:21:25
Mavs get Schröder

Miami gets Roberson

Okc gets Olynyk, Jackson, Brunson

08 Jun 2019 04:58:48
Why for mavs? Brunson is younger, cheaper and probably better.

08 Jun 2019 13:31:47
They’re rumored to want him, actually. Shown he can play in a two point guard set. Plus, they have the cap.

Okc gets cap space, younger, and a stretch 5.

Miami needs defense on the perimeter and have too many bigs.

 
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