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26 Apr 2017 12:23:37
NYK and ORL

NYK get Payton and Biyombo

ORL get Noah and NYK 2017 1st rounder

Knicks get rid of Noah's contract they take on Biyombo's but Biyombo is less injury prone and will help take pressure of Porzingis on the defensive end. Payton gives them a young pg who can get the ball to the stars and drive the open lanes.

Magic get Noah's bad contract but they have time to kill as they search for a star and adding another pick gives them a better chance of that.

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1.) 26 Apr 2017 13:23:44
As much as getting rid of Noah's contract would be fantastic, I don't think that Biyombo's contract and an underachieving Peyton is worth giving up the number 7 pick.

Biyombo has a similar contract to Noah's, and will never live up to it.


2.) 26 Apr 2017 13:57:09
Exactly. This would be a worthwhile deal if it was a mid-late 1st rounder, but 7 is way too high just to unload Noah for that return. I could see that kind of a package being moved for a better player on a terrible team like Lopez though.


3.) 26 Apr 2017 20:46:25
HAHAH rather homer trade nothing but net. Biyombo has the exact same contract. But instead of being a great defender/ rebounder like noah when noah is ever actually healthy, biyombo is a below average center. awful.


 

 

26 Apr 2017 11:33:34
NOP-ORL

NOP get Payton

Orl get a 1st rounder either 2018(top 10 protected), 2019(top 5 protected) or 2020 unprotected.

Pelicans let holiday walk get a hometown kid who can get the ball to their stars and will be cheaper giving them more money to keep their stars and add some shooters at sg and sf to help space the floor in the off season. They protect their picks incase Cousins walks.

Magic have Fox in most mocks so that makes Payton expendable so grabbing a future pick would help them continue to build as they only have their own 1st rounders and are lacking a star so grabbing picks and young players should be a priority until they find an identity to start moving forward.

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1.) 26 Apr 2017 13:59:39
I'm not sure I would take Fox if I'm the Magic. Tatum is the obvious choice if he isn't taken at 4, but I think I'd go somewhere other than Fox if he is. He seems like he has all the good, and most of the same bad as Payton.


2.) 26 Apr 2017 16:23:00
Peyton isn't good enough to justify letting Holiday walk. They could just use the pick to get rid of Hill and/ or Asik's contracts to open up space.


 

 

25 Apr 2017 12:19:20
Min and Orl

Min get Fournier and 25th pick

Orl get 6th pick and Pekovic (exp)

Min do it as thibs is a play to win now coach he will be pushing for the playoffs with Lavine working back from injury adding Fournier gives them a starting sg who helps spread the floor and I'd expect his shooting percentages to increase with wiggins and towns drawing double teams. As their giving up a lottery pick I gave them the 25th pick as mocks have them taking Issac to develop into a stretch 4 at the end of this draft theirs a few guys floating like lydon, Swanigan and Leaf if he falls who could also fill that need.

Orl need to find their star so landing another top 10 pick gives them two chances at finding one taking pekovic expiring contract can be flipped later on and I think Vucevic will be moved as they seem to wanna play smaller and faster so their won't be a log jam at Center before people start commenting on that.

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1.) 25 Apr 2017 13:44:41
I was going dog your trade idea, than u think Issac will drop to 25th pick. So at that Point I just gave up.


2.) 25 Apr 2017 14:02:06
He means that the Twolves are projected to pick Isaac at 6.


3.) 25 Apr 2017 14:23:16
Shizzee, I think he was saying that most mocks had them taking Isaac at 6, and was looking at comps to Isaac like Lydon, Swanigan and Leaf at the 26.


4.) 25 Apr 2017 16:57:20
Thanks for paying attention NBA16 and soxfan893.
Min are projected to go for Issac at 6 as they want to use him for stretch 4 potential in most mocks but in this trade they can get a stretch 4 around 25th pick as this is a loaded draft and the 3 ball is becoming more of the modern players arsenal so in this trade they add the floor spacing their lacking in Fournier and a potential stretch 4. Hope this helps clear it up for you shizzee.


5.) 25 Apr 2017 17:19:09
Yeah I think that he was saying if Leaf drops not Isaac, cause lately in mocks Leaf has been raising. But I don't think that Fournier and the 25th is enough for the Timberwolves to trade the 6th pick for. And I also think that Pekovic is eligible for an injury void on his contract so they won't have to worry about him effecting their money.


6.) 25 Apr 2017 17:47:26
If Thibs was truly a win-now coach he shouldn't have gone to Minnesota, he knew what he was getting himself into with all that young talent. I think Issac is perfect for Minnesota as he doesn't just project as a stretch 4 but with the defensive ability he flashed he has unicorn potential. Thibs is a defensive coach so I think he'll value Issac's upside on this end.

Peks contract isn't a issue for Minnesota as he'll likely go into medical retirement as he hasn't played in over a year. I think it would be foolish for them to deal Issac and his upside for Fournier and #25 pick where they'd be getting a "stretch 4" by definition but a very one dimensional player who'd be a liability on defensive end (Thibs is a defensive coach) . Fournier's is a good shooter but his stats are a bit inflated on the Magic and although he is young because he doesn't contribute much outside of shooting/ scoring I don't think his upside is that high.


 

 

09 Mar 2017 17:50:27
Mem and Orl

Memphis get Hezonja

Orlando get Baldwin

Memphis are going to be weak at sg Tony Allen is expiring and old, they have no 1st rounder and adding Hezonja who could do with a fresh start and still has some upside as an athletic shooter could be a good pick up for team looking to tightening up around a different core now most of their original pieces are old and expiring.

Orlando add a young pg who has talent as shooter and already has similar numbers to Payton but could carve out a bigger role with potentially higher ceiling as he can shoot the 3 which is needed for a pg and would complement this team better and with their pick moving due to Sixers and kings getting worse they seem to be around the Tatum/ Issac area in the draft which would mean less mins for Hezonja and less chance of them getting one of the top 3 pg's who better fit their team so a sf would be on the cards.

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1.) 09 Mar 2017 18:02:22
Orlando would need more than just Baldwin.


2.) 09 Mar 2017 18:19:06
I think ideally the Magic would get Dennis Smith but with Kings draft pick falling their is a chance they jump the Magic and take him before they do (I think Sixers will get Monk regardless although if they get Lakers pick too maybe they get Smith)

I don't think Magic are getting enough for Hezonja. I don't think Baldwin would start although its unlikely whomever they draft would (Payton-Fournier-Ross-Gordon_Vucevic lineup) either.

Therefore I don't really see the issue with getting Tatum or Issac especially since both have the length to play pf or sf and Hezonja can play sg or sf. With Jeff Green a FA they don't have a real backup pf and with the team pretty bad they'd be better off playing Hezonja over Meeks at sg so I think between sf and pf slots there should be plenty of minutes for a Tatum/ Issac type.


 

 

23 Feb 2017 10:21:27
Orl and ind

Orl get George and Ellis

Ind get Fournier, Green exp, both 2017 1st rounders, 2017 2nd rounder and a 2019 1st rounder.

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14 Feb 2017 16:37:22


Orl get Ross and clippers 2017 1st

To get Ibaka.

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1.) 14 Feb 2017 17:34:20
That's not a rumor, that's a confirmed deal.


 

 

24 Jun 2016 09:31:07
Orlando should sign Conley and Horford and see if they can try and keep Fournier.

Conley
Fournier
Gordon
Ibaka
Horford

Obviously this is a stretch but they need to give some hope after this Ibaka deal.

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11 May 2017 13:52:04
If Orl move up I doubt theyed trade as they need a star if they did then lakers don't get their pick which would mean Sixers do and I'd rather trade the 1st pick for the 4th and 5th and draft Tatum and Fox and fill two needs for Orlando better pg and a scoring sf so two star potential players.
Sixers add Fultz to have a big 3 or 4 depending on how Saric and Simmons gel.

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05 May 2017 07:49:45
Bulls landing Fournier and Biyombo are guys who have potential to help build around Butler but they could do with a better pg.

Fournier is a good starter in the right system or a 6th man at worst on a playoff team. Why would Orlando trade that for Noah whose contract maybe as bad as Biyombo's but Biyombo has more value as he can stay healthy and if he's used right could be a productive starter in today's go small NBA. Rondo is bad locker room guy and they have a player like him in Payne. Lee is on a steep decline and Payne has failed to make any impact.
Orlando would need a lot of picks after taking those four players.

This would be great for the Knicks if both wade and bosh were in their prime otherwise why do it they should be adding young guys to build around Porzingis use their pick to add someone to complement him say a pg like Fox and trade Melo to fill their other needs.

Heat add two backup players who both had bad seasons which out of all the deals does make sense considering they can't play bosh so they get something for him adding depth but still don't think anyone will wanna trade for Bosh if he can't play.

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05 May 2017 07:25:42
Terrible for the Magic. They need to package players and picks to get better pieces so if they do deals it will be for unproven young guys or to move up in the draft.

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04 May 2017 13:18:33
NBA, the Suns hold all the cards Lakers want Lonzo and Lonzo would love to play for his home team so if anything Suns could ask for more because if either way they can keep him and trade their other pg's or trade him to other teams with assets.

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02 May 2017 08:10:13
Don't see the point in the Magic getting Melo especially if they grab a sf with their pick. Also Melo has a clause in his contract and I can't see the Magic being a destination for him.

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