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16 Aug 2018 23:59:35
Raptors-Thunder-Magic

Raptors get Simmons/ Martin from Magic-Singler/ Patterson from Thunder (stretch or buyout both)

Thunder get Ibaka from Raptors/ Ross from Magic

Magic get Schroeder/ Abrines from Thunder

Raptors get solid wing player and a big guy with potential, save a little bit of money

Thunder get to clean their books a little bit, get a couple of players that would be more useful to them than what they are giving up, one with an expiring contract

Magic get the best player in the deal (apologies to Serge), a good young scoring pg which they lack and a backup 2.

17 Aug 2018 00:19:17
Schroeder and Abrines are average players at best. Simmons is the gem in this deal. Whoever ends up with simmons wins.

17 Aug 2018 00:40:38
Bad deal for magic.

17 Aug 2018 02:14:59
I can’t see Orlando wanting Schroeder and the Raptors already have a ton of wings,

17 Aug 2018 06:45:11
Thunder big winner.

15 Aug 2018 22:49:51
Next move for Thunder. Let me know what y'all think.
Three team trade Thunder, Magic, Pelicans

Thunder get Mirotic, and Fournier

Magic get Ferguson, Abrines (exp), Singler (exp)
A 2nd round pick if needed

Pelicans get Schroder

Thunder get a starting PF that can stretch the floor, rebound, and is a good role player. And they get a starting SG that can also stretch the floor and is a good role player. They do take Fournier’s contract which isn't great but they are getting rid of Schroder’s contract which also isn't great and Fournier gives them more of what they need. This would add two good role players around Westbrook and George. Also it clears up a lil of the 2 and 3 spot jam they have.

Magic get out of Fournier's contract which is 17mil guaranteed for 2 more years and a player option for the 3rd which is also 17mil and I doubt he declines it. They are only adding Ferguson’s contract past this season which is a rookie deal so they are saving a lot of money which will help in future free agency. Plus Ferguson is still young with potential.

Pelicans clear playing time for Randle, and they get a PG that can distribute the ball well and is a better starting option than Peyton to replace Rondo.

Westbrook/ Felton
Fournier/ Roberson/ Diallo
George/ TLC/ Nader
Mirotic/ Grant/ Patterson
Adams/ Noel/ Patterson

They can use their trade exception or sign someone at PG for depth.

16 Aug 2018 13:09:41
Rather have Miro than Schroder if I’m the Pels.

16 Aug 2018 23:11:55
Its a huge no from NOP/.

14 Aug 2018 02:53:15
Magic-Brooklyn Trade

Magic Recieve-Spencer Dinwiddie

Nets receive-Justin Jackson,2020 okc 1st

14 Aug 2018 05:49:43
Wtf u on, jackson is on kings.

14 Aug 2018 06:46:33
There's another Justin Jackson who came out of Maryland this year.

14 Aug 2018 08:22:54
Oops sorry.

14 Aug 2018 12:35:00
Hhhahhhahahhahhah typical.

14 Aug 2018 13:23:10
Dinwiddie isn't worth a 1st Rd pick, even a late one.

14 Aug 2018 23:55:22
Ugh yes he is worth a (really late 1st) he averaged like 12ppg 6ast and 3rb I think so to me he actually can play most 2nd rd picks are just d league.

12 Aug 2018 04:56:01
Raptors trade - Wright and Powell
Raptors get - Simmons and Koufos

- Gets more cap space w the swap of Powell for Koufos exp contract. Gets a needed SG w Green being the only true SG

Magic trade - Simmons
Magic get - Wright

- Gets a good young PG who can become a good starter in a much needed position

Kings trade - Koufos
Kings get - Powell

- Kings won't get any good FA anytime soon so paying for a young player who fills a need at SF will be worth the trade

11 Aug 2018 12:33:25
Orlando-Brooklyn

Orlando Sends: Vucevic, J. Simmons, M. Frazier, 2019 1st rounder, 2020 2nd round pick

Orlando Receives: Dinwiddie, D. Carroll, R. Hollis-Jefferson

Why: Unclog frontline minutes, defensive-minded SF, Starting PG

Brooklyn Sends: Dinwiddie, D.Carroll, R. Hollis-Jefferson

Brooklyn Receives: Vucevic, J. Simmons, M. Frazier, 2019 1st rounder, 2020 2nd rounder

Why: Center support for J. Allen, cheaper SF option (long-term- RH-J up for expensive extension), future assets

11 Aug 2018 13:47:44
Not bad, jus don’t like Orlando giving up a likely top10 pick in this deal. Lottery protect it for this year, and then top 8 or so for the year after and I like it.

08 Aug 2018 12:49:16
MIL - LAL - ORL

Bucks get Fournier, Deng
Lakers get Henson
Orlando gets Snell, Dellavedova, MIL 1st, LAL 1st

Milwaukee gets a starting sg that fits to their needs

Lakers save money and get a big needed for their rotation

Orlando sacrifise Fournier for two mid high picks and backup players

08 Aug 2018 13:34:56
Just dumping Deng would cost the Lakers a #1, without getting anything in return. Bucks get screwed big-time in that deal.

08 Aug 2018 13:59:18
Isn’t that basically what’s happening Supercollider? The lakers trade Deng and a first for a player with no value or negative value of his own.

I like it for the Bucks. Fournier isn’t great, but he’s better than what they have. Deng could also be a serviceable rotational player still I think, just massively overpaid.

08 Aug 2018 14:30:58
Fournier is better than what they have? You mean, better than Middleton, Giannis and Brodgan?

08 Aug 2018 14:52:51
Fournier is a better starting sg than Snell on a same deal, 5 mil more per year.

08 Aug 2018 15:02:48
Latest rumor out of Milwaukee is the Bucks are looking to trade Henson and Dellavedova plus a 2nd. rd. pick to the Atlanta Hawks for SG kent Basemore.

08 Aug 2018 15:30:14
Thats not true supercollider! Deng scored 14 pts in a scrimmage the other day! The bucks likely would need to give the lakers the 1st in order for the lakers to be willing to part with that stud!

08 Aug 2018 17:34:40
And aren't Bazemore and Fournier about the same in overall quality Torque?

Well, Fournier doesn't have to overlap Middleton or Giannis. Brogdon doesn't start to my knowledge, and I'd say Fournier is better than him ignoring contracts (Brogdon has more value probably, but that doesn't mean he's a better player) . He's better than Snell without a doubt.

Maybe taking in Deng kills the deal, but I think Fournier would be a good fit in Milwaukee, just like Bazemore would be.

08 Aug 2018 18:17:35
@ Bmiller66, To me its 6 of this, and a half a dozen between Bazemore, and Fournier. I would prefer Bazemore. If Milwaukee would trade Henson and Dellavedova plus a 2nd rd pick. Contracts would match, plus both would finally be gone. Bazemore is a better defender than Fournier also. That's just my take on it.

08 Aug 2018 18:35:39
Yeah, Bazemore is a more defensive guy, Fournier is more of an offensive weapon. Both are solid role players.

08 Aug 2018 18:57:00
Agreed! Bmiller66!

09 Aug 2018 00:14:09
No Giannis needs shooters (Fournier) man bucks fans are dumb! Just a couple more years now till giannis heads to LA.

07 Aug 2018 01:49:37
Four team trade:

Clippers send: Gallinari, Teodosic, Boban, '20 2nd
Receive: Vucevic, Shumpert
Get a scoring starting C and clear cap space for next summer.

Kings send: Shumpert, '21 2nd
Receive: Gallinari
Go to scorer on the wing and will ease the pressure on their younger players while not taking much of their minutes.

Pels send: Ajinca, '20 2nd
Receive: Boban
Get a better back up C to protect against injuries

Magic send: Vucevic
Receive: Teodosic, Ajinca (Waive), 2x '20 2nds, '21 2nd
Get a pass first point who can start, clear front court minutes for their young core and get 3 picks for a player who will leave for nothing.

07 Aug 2018 21:33:18
Good deal for all 4 teams. Magic may want a 1st rounder instead of all of those 2nd round picks. I really like Vucevic to clippers and Gallinari to Kings. Pels and Magic are secondary to make the trade work.

Nice trade.

08 Aug 2018 14:27:37
Nice trade wiz.

08 Aug 2018 19:38:17
Not sure why Clips would trade Boban for Ajinca. Both are expiring.

05 Aug 2018 12:05:17
Trade #1

Cleveland trades: Collin Sexton, J. R. Smith and Tristan Thompson

Orlando trades: Evan Fournier, Nikola Vucevic and '19 top 5 protected first round draft pick

Why for Cleveland? They acquire a couple of established players that fit into the roster plus a first round draft pick.

Why for Orlando? This is all about getting a very good prospect that could be their future at point guard.

I realize that frontcourt defense could be an issue, but I don't think Vucevic is a downgrade in that regard over Thompson.

Trade #2

Cleveland trades: George Hill

Miami trades: Goran Dragic

Why for Cleveland? This is about upgrading their point guard position and Dragic is a major upgrade over Hill.

Why for Miami? They shed a year off Dragic's contract in favor of Hill, who only has 1 million guaranteed for '19 - '20.

PG: Goran Dragic | Jordan Clarkson
SG: Evan Fournier
SF: Cedi Osman
PF: Kevin Love | Larry Nance
C: Nikola Vucevic | Ante Zizic
+ '19 first round draft pick from the Magic.

05 Aug 2018 14:35:10
Thompson and Smith have negative contacts. You don't get assets and a 1st for negative contracts and a 8th pick.

05 Aug 2018 15:28:17
Collin Sexton looks like he could be a future superstar.

05 Aug 2018 16:08:01
Thompson is a negative contract for sure. Smith’s contract fairly close to an expiring and Fournier’s contract is a lot worse than Smith’s given the length and not much better than than Tristan’s. I don’t think either team would be overly excited with the Cavs. They probably like Sexton more than most and the Magic wouldn’t want to give up a pick in a Vucevic deal. I don’t see it for either team.

05 Aug 2018 19:16:38
Fournier contact may be longer, but he's younger, a better defender, and would be a contributor on any team. Add that they are taking Thompson for a good exciting contract in vouch. Plus yes the magic need a PG. But they had an opportunity to draft Sexton if they thought he was the one. Not good for the magic at all.

03 Aug 2018 02:46:13
Thunder lack a solid backup SF and have several young players that can battle for the backup SG position Ferguson, TLC, Diallo so I think they should trade Alex Abrines using the TPE from Melo trade to get a solid SF for the bench. Most of the trades would make the luxury bill go up a lot but Thunder could cut, trade, or stretch Singler to make them cheaper and open a roster spot after the trade.

Thunder get Demarre Carroll
Nets get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd

Thunder get Marvin Williams
Hornets get Abrines

Thunder get Korver
Cavs get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Bojan Bogdanovic
Pacers get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Josh Richardson
Heat get Abrines, 2 2 nd’s

Thunder get Tony Snell
Bucks get Abrines

Thunder get Courtney Lee
Knicks get Abrines, 1 2nd if needed

Thunder get Jonathan Simmons
Magic get Abrines 2 2nd’s

Thunder get CJ Miles
Raptors get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get Garrett Temple
Grizzlies get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get E'Twaun Moore
Pelicans get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Jae Crowder
Jazz get Abrines, 2 2nds

At trade deadline if Ariza won't sign with sun's next year
Thunder get Ariza
Suns get Abrines, 1 or 2 seconds

Give me your opinions. Will any of these work?

03 Aug 2018 05:24:03
Can't include a TPE with a player.

03 Aug 2018 06:13:48
Dang I didn't realize that. Well ignore all of those.

02 Aug 2018 02:48:04
Knicks - Magic

Knicks gets:
Mozgov

Magic gets:
Noah
Burke

01 Aug 2018 16:05:12
Thunder need to try and sign Rodney Hood with the mid-level exception offer him a 3 year contract with the last year being a player option. I say 3 years because thunder would then have bird rights and after the 3rd year if he would accept the player option they could then sign him to a larger and longer contract even though they will likely still be in luxury tax.
Then if they sign hood buyout, trade, or stretch Singler to open a roster spot.

Then make a trade with magic
Thunder get Jonathon Simmons
Magic get Alex Abrines and an unprotected 2nd round pick

Final move trade with kings
Kings get Ferguson and a 2nd if need be
Thunder get Skal Labissiere

New roster
Westbrook/ Schroder/ Felton
Roberson/ Hood/ Diallo
George/ Simmons/ TLC/ Nader
Grant/ Labissiere/ Patterson
Adams/ Noel/ Patterson

The trades only happen if they sign hood. I know all this won't happen I think the trades are far but I could be wrong. If this did happen thunder would have a solid team. They would have way better depth than they did last year and they wouldn't have to worry bout getting Melo touches and trying to hide him on defense. With this team I think they would easily be 2nd in the conference. After the Rockets bad off-season.

01 Aug 2018 16:50:36
The Cavs would match that deal and probably are offering better. Plus, there is no way Hood takes a multi year deal on the MLE. It doesn’t make sense. I’m also not sure either of the deals you suggested would be enough for the Kings or Orlando.

01 Aug 2018 17:00:08
Orlando says no. Simmons is worth more than Abrines and a 2nd. Plus, Simmons surprisingly likes playing in Orlando and they value him very highly.

01 Aug 2018 04:36:19
Some Philly (Bayless) trade ideas:

Phi receive: Korver
Cavs receive: Bayless, '19 top 24 protected 1st (converts to 2 seconds)

Phi receive: Lamb
Hor receive: Bayless, '19 unprotected 1st, '21 2nd

Phi receive: Ross
Magic receive: Bayless, '19 top 24 protected 1st (converts to 2 seconds)

Phi receive: Dudley
Brooklyn receive: Bayless, '19 2nd

Phi receive: Waiters
Heat receive: Bayless, '19 & '20 2nd

Phi receive: Thomas
NY receive: Bayless '19 2nd

What are your thoughts on the above?

01 Aug 2018 06:32:55
where's suns part? trade sf t j warren to philly pg bayless.

01 Aug 2018 15:10:45
Sixers go for the Ross, Korver or the Dudley trades. Waiters is stilled owed $40 million over the next 3 years. Lb isn't worth an unprotected first (injuries could make it a valuable pick), and Thomas is 8 mill ecyra against the cap next year. But Ross and Dude are both expiring (as is Bayless), at nearly the same cap hit. And Korver is a good fit and worth a very late first or 2 second Rd picks.

01 Aug 2018 17:02:46
Orlando may say yes but it would have to be bare minimum Lottery protected 1st, not top 24.

01 Aug 2018 20:28:41
Oldskoolmagic: Ross and Bayless are both expiring, ross makes $10m, bayless $8.6m. Would you give up a 1-14 protected pick for Ross? The GM who would will be sitting next to me in the cheap seats watching the game.

01 Aug 2018 22:39:37
JVoug: I said lottery protected 1st. Orlando would only get the 1st if it falls out of the lottery. That would be fair compensation for Ross. He is a way better player than Bayless.

01 Aug 2018 23:41:48
Nobody gives a unprotected 1st for lamb.

02 Aug 2018 01:57:36
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.

03 Aug 2018 04:57:54
why would the cavaliers want jerryd bayless and older shorter version of clarkson. his contract expires in 2019 so the trade is exclusively for the draft pick which shold have only top 14 protected status. tj mcdonnel is a better choice than bayless.

31 Jul 2018 19:50:37
Cleveland trades: Collin Sexton, J. R. Smith and Tristan Thompson

Orlando trades: Evan Fournier and Nikola Vucevic

Why for Cleveland? Acquire a couple of established players that fit into the roster. Fournier is severely underrated and Vucevic gives us a back to the basket big, which is very useful in the playoffs - get rid of two bad contracts in the process also.

Why for Orlando? This is all about getting a very good prospect that could be their future at point guard. The Magic are a rebuilding team so getting rid of two win now players shouldn't hurt them at all.

PG: George Hill | Jordan Clarkson
SG: Evan Fournier
SF: Cedi Osman
PF: Kevin Love | Larry Nance
C: Nikola Vucevic | Ante Zizic

I realize that frontcourt defense could be an issue, but I don't think Vucevic is a downgrade in that regard over Thompson.

31 Jul 2018 20:41:13
Why would the Cavs give up Sexton? That line up might not even make the playoffs and the upside of that team is a 1st round exit? What’s the point?

31 Jul 2018 20:59:55
I think that's a very balanced line-up.

31 Jul 2018 23:29:46
If by balanced you mean that all of the players outside of Love are below average starters than yes. Hill is a low end starter at this point. Fournier and Vucevic are both guys who put up solid offensive numbers on a terrible team. Osman has an interesting skill set, but he’s going from 4th or 5th option to a guy who is going to have to create in that lineup. He’s going to have growing pains. Why give up a player that has allstar upside for Fournier and Vucevic? If they still had Lebron, I could see rolling the dice, but this just guarantees they don’t get next year’s pick and they trade away this year’s pick in the deal.

04 Aug 2018 07:06:52
As a magic fan I do it.

31 Jul 2018 06:39:08
MIL-POR-ORL

Bucks get McCollum, Leonard
Blazers get Fournier, Augustin, Maker, Mil 1st
Magic get Bledsoe, Snell, Mil 2nd

Bucks get a great fit in McCollum

Blazers replace him with Fournier and add Augustin for needed depth. They also swap Leonard with Maker which will avoid them the tax and get a first

Magic gets equal value, but with Bledsoe exp has better flexibility for next year FA

31 Jul 2018 07:00:54
McCollum has more value.

31 Jul 2018 09:49:20
It's a good return for McCollum

Fournier would be a good fit with Lillard, Maker has potential and the first round pick, gives Portland the flexibility to trade a bad contract and save some money.

31 Jul 2018 14:59:14
This is basically trading an allstar caliber sg, for a good, not great, player in fournier, a guy who has done nothing in maker, and a pick that is likely in the mid 20s. pretty awful return.

31 Jul 2018 15:45:27
How are the Bucks getting McCollum back for that? Are you overvaluing Bledsoe or Maker?

Maker would get lost behind Collins. Fournier is worse than McCollum in basically every way but height.

This makes Portland considerably worse short term, and doesn't help long term.

31 Jul 2018 20:12:10
Fournier can provide similar to McCollum on a cheaper deal and Augustin is a piece that will take some pressure off Lillard. It's a minor downgrade for Portand, but for that they avoid the tax with Leonard - Maker swap and take a 1st. I'm not saying it's ideal, but it's an honest offer.

26 Jul 2018 16:10:22
Magic Trade Johnathan Simmons Terrance Ross Johnathan Issac Jerant Grant 2019 second round pick

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler Tyue Jones

26 Jul 2018 17:09:00
Why? Magic don't need a rental.

26 Jul 2018 22:49:46
Ya they need a lot more they are all bums.

29 Jul 2018 23:09:24
I think this would work. Maybe the Magic is where Kyrie and Butler wants to meet up and play? Solid bigs, easily a top 3 team in the East. Could they afford butler, kyrie, and Gordon?

26 Jul 2018 15:32:19
The Magic get Ball, Deng, and the Lakers 2019 1st

The Lakers get Vucevic and Simmons

26 Jul 2018 15:39:24
Its seems like all you cavs fans are now magic fans lmao.

26 Jul 2018 15:43:54
No magic declined.

26 Jul 2018 19:26:29
Mikecluuns you make literally the worst trade proposals I e seen on here. Yet you bash everyone else’s lol? Why?

26 Jul 2018 21:10:05
Shizzee, some people suggest trades on here that have nothing to do with their favorite teams. You should try it! Maybe, then you wouldn’t have 5 different trades on here a day dumping Noah and Hardaway’s salary, while talking about how good you think Hardaway is.

26 Jul 2018 22:52:28
Exactly shizzzee your trades are the worse, nobody wants the Knicks garbage start thinking before you post!

27 Jul 2018 00:51:39
New York best bet is to keep getting good picks till hardaway expires then go on a signing spree on quality players to lead the players they drafted.

26 Jul 2018 07:05:54
Magic Trade Nikola Vucevic Terrance Ross

Rockets Trade Ryan Anderson 2020 second round pick


Magic sign Clint Capela 4 year 129.6 million

Magic Waive or Buyout Ryan Anderson Timofey Mozgov Contract

26 Jul 2018 07:41:52
You don't think Bamba and Capela would be a little redundant long-term?

26 Jul 2018 14:08:27
Yeah, Mike, can you explain why you sign Capela with Bamba?

26 Jul 2018 14:25:11
I'd rather magic trade vuc and Ross for a pg. Or a evan Fournier.

26 Jul 2018 19:27:33
No he can’t explain lol. I’m starting to think this guy is trolling?

26 Jul 2018 01:13:11
Magic Trade Jerant Grant Khem Birch
Wesley Iwundu to Thunder

Thunder Trade Kyle Singler Terrance Ferguson to Magic

26 Jul 2018 17:10:45
Why do magic fo it?

26 Jul 2018 18:14:30
Why would the Magic want Singler and Ferguson, especially to give up those players for them?
Neither of those guys add anything positive for their roster.

26 Jul 2018 00:28:48
Magic Trade Terrance Ross Jerant Grant 2019 second round pick 2020 second round pick (unprotected) to Nets

Nets Trade D'Angelo Russell Spencer Dinwiddie to Magic

25 Jul 2018 22:55:17
Okc gets Simmons
Orlando gets Singler, Ferguson

Okc gets a great rotational wing who could compete with Dre for that starting 2 spot and play great d in those future warrior games.

Orlando gets a great prospect in Ferguson and Singler who has a partially guaranteed deal next year.

26 Jul 2018 00:41:45
No Magic declined that deal Terrance Ross 2020 second round pick for Singler and Ferguson Johnathan Simmons is untouchable.

26 Jul 2018 00:45:03
Simmons is still a better prospect, and they don't have to take singler. There's no incentive.

26 Jul 2018 17:11:30
Ferguson is not a great prospect.

26 Jul 2018 18:23:47
I could only see them take Singler for Ross to gain some cap space and they could ask for a 2nd round pick, but I think that would be a bad trade on the Thunder's side if they gave up another pick.
It's a big roll of the dice for a one year rental that will add 5 mill more to salary and a huge amount more to the luxury tax amount.
Especially since no one knows how well he has recovered from his injury last year.

26 Jul 2018 19:31:00
He said Jonathan Simmons is untouchable Hahahaha are you forreal? That’s actually a fair trade. Everyone knows exactly what you get with Simmons. Ferguson in the other hand is very young and has a lot of potential. Watch some more bball.

 
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