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16 Aug 2017 12:52:15
# TRADE # ORL - IND

Magic get G. Robinson III / A. Jefferson

Pacers get T. Ross / M. Speights

14 Aug 2017 16:41:49
Four team trade: Knicks/Cavaliers/76ers/Suns
New York Knicks trade: Kristaps Porzingis, Carmelo Anthony, Frank Ntilinkina, and Joakim Noah

New York Knicks receive: Kyrie Irving, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Dragan Bender, and Channing Frye

The Knicks are giving up their present and their future all in one deal here. So why would they do this deal? Simple: they are gaining an even brighter future. Irving is a proven star and wants nothing more than to play in New York. The Knicks have been unwilling to include Porzingis in a deal for Irving this offseason, so I remedied that by essentially swapping Anthony out for Saric and Covington, more than fair considering both of their ages and potential, and, more importantly, ridding them of Noah's lengthy and pricey contract. Swapping out Ntilinkina for Bender would be more of a positional swap than anything, as acquiring Irving wouldn't leave much room for Ntilinkina, however, acquiring Bender would provide the Knicks with Porzingis' replacement, one of the most similar type of players as compared to Porzingis in the league. Moreover, this trade would open up over $20 million worth of cap space, and potentially enough for a max contract, for the next offseason. Free agents have never been shy in their desire to play in New York, which would be even more the case with Irving in town and youngsters such as Saric and Bender around.

Irving/Ramon Sessions
Tim Hardaway Jr./Courtney Lee
Covington/Lance Thomas
Saric/Bender
Kyle O'Quinn/Willy Hernangomez



Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson, and Kay Felder

Cleveland Cavaliers receive: Eric Bledsoe, Carmelo Anthony, and Richaun Holmes

In terms of talent, this deal would provide the Cavaliers with more than a fair return in exchange for Irving. While this may not be the same case in terms of value (although definitely debatable), the Cavaliers have been really struggling to find a team willing to give up fair value for Irving and most likely will not find fair value for a player of Irving's status. The Cavaliers will be in a very weird spot this upcoming season with the uncertainty of James' future as a Cavalier hanging over their heads. They desire to acquire a veteran player along with a young prospect with high upside for Irving in the event that LeBron James is to bolt again. With this trade, they would not only acquire one veteran, one who is still only 27-years-old and probably just played his best season of basketball as a professional, but two, the other whose contract expires after this season and they could decide to re-sign should James opt to stay in Cleveland. Although Holmes doesn't possess as high of upside as the Cavaliers would hope, he is signed for two more years on a very cheap contract and coming off a breakout season in which he was extremely effective in terms of per 36 minutes statistics while holding down a very efficient field goal percentage and even stretching the floor for his team by hitting some three pointers. Ridding themselves of Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, and Felder would neutralize the blow the team would face for acquiring the pricey contracts of Bledsoe and Anthony.

Bledsoe/Derrick Rose
Anthony/Kyle Korver
James/J.R. Smith
Kevin Love/Jeff Green
Tristan Thompson/Holmes



Philadelphia 76ers trade: Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Richaun Holmes, Jahlil Okafor, 2018 76ers first-round pick, and 2018 Lakers first-round pick (top 1 protected)/2019 Kings first-round pick (pick that doesn't get traded to the Celtics)

Philadelphia 76ers receive: Kristaps Porzingis, Joakim Noah, and Richard Jefferson

Giving up four young players with solid upside, two potentially high draft picks, and taking on an absolutely terrible contract (along with a much smaller one) would be a hard pill for the 76ers to swallow. There are only a few players in the league worth this type of package and Porzingis is certainly one of them. Can you seriously imagine the 76ers acquiring Porzingis without giving up Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons, and Markelle Fultz? Wow! The potential for the team to succeed in the future would probably be something that has never been heard of in the past. If all these players are to live up to their highest potential, just imagine a team of James Harden, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, and Hakeem Olajuwon all playing together. That would be absolutely absurd! The best part would be that the team, even with Noah's contract on the books, would have just under $30 million to spend on free agents next season, with the chance to finesse enough cap space for a maximum contract if need be. Shooting and defense would probably be the two biggest needs for a team of this caliber, and with players such as Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Avery Bradley available, the team would have a variety of opportunities to complete their starting line-up for the next 10 years.

Fultz/Jerryd Bayless
J.J. Redick/Nik Stauskas
Simmons/Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
Porzingis/Amir Johnson
Embiid/Noah



Phoenix Suns trade: Eric Bledsoe and Dragan Bender

Phoenix Suns receive: Jahlil Okafor, Frank Ntilinkina, Iman Shumpert, 2018 76ers first-round pick, and 2018 Lakers first-round pick (top 1 protected)/2019 Kings first-round pick (pick that doesn't get traded to the Celtics)

The Phoenix Suns are one of the youngest teams in the league, and they are only hoping to get younger as they look to sell off veterans such as Bledsoe, Tyson Chandler, and a few others. They have the minutes and room for risk available to take a chance on a player like Okafor, who still has enough offensive potential in him to be a possible surprise for a team willing to take the risk in acquiring him. More important in this deal, however, would be the two picks the team would be acquiring. Even with the magical upside the 76ers would have on their roster following this trade, they would almost undoubtedly need another year to develop into a true contender, and that's not taking injuries into consideration. Granted, the Eastern Conference is probably as weak as it has ever been and the 76ers can just as easily sneak into the playoffs as a seventh or eighth seed as they can finish as an 11th or 12th seed, but even if this pick were to fall as far back as 15th, it would provide the Suns with an opportunity to draft a player with, at minimum, medial upside. The second pick the Suns would receive in this deal would either be the Lakers' draft pick next year or the Kings' draft pick in two years. They would receive the Lakers pick next year if it fell beyond the fifth slot. Considering the likeliness of their pick falling somewhere between the sixth and 10th slot in next year's draft, or the likeliness of the Kings' draft pick landing somewhere in the top five slot the following year, the return the Suns would be receiving in this trade for Bledsoe would be very worthwhile. As mentioned before, swapping Bender for Ntilinkina would be positional more than anything, as Marquese Chriss plays the same position that Bender plays and outperformed him this previous season. The Suns need themselves a young point guard of the future and the hope would be that Ntilinkina would be that guy for them.

Ntilinkina/Tyler Ulis
Devin Booker/Elijah Millsap
Josh Jackson/T.J. Warren
Chriss/Jared Dudley
Okafor/Tyson Chandler

14 Aug 2017 17:36:51
Philly says no, way too much to give up just for Zinger.

14 Aug 2017 17:37:20
Not bad. I think the biggest hang ups would be the amount the 76ers are giving up here and I'm not sure if the Cavs would be willing to go all in this year rather than getting a mix of young talent and established players. Holmes is young, but he is probably a career role player.

14 Aug 2017 19:16:47
Philly says no. Could go either way if that is too much for Porzingis but I could see it happen, but with adding Noah that is way too much imo. They should be keeping one of Covington or Saric and one of those first should become 2 seconds

14 Aug 2017 22:44:30
I agree that the 76ers may be giving up too much but what you guys have to understand is that the Knicks aren't at all desperate to trade Porzingis, and even Anthony for that matter taking into account the offers they've received for him, therefore, it would take a king's ransom deal to grab him. 76ers have a lot of assets that they will have to consolidate at some point, and they should that sooner rather than waiting till later and receiving pennies on the dollar.

Porzingis has a truly unique skill set, is a superstar in the making playing in a superstar's league, and is extremely young, making him worth the king's ransom. The fact that they would still have enough money to spend on a top free agent next season in an effort to fill out their line-up would be icing on the cake.

15 Aug 2017 00:41:57
Danny, I just think you're underestimating how much of a negative asset Noah is.

15 Aug 2017 03:43:41
No ones arguing that it would take a ransom to get him but Philly is giving up a ransom and then your acting like the Knicks can throw in one of the worst contracts in the NBA on top of it. Like I said I can see the Sixers doing that without Noah included

15 Aug 2017 15:24:17
I don't see phoenix doing this. Yes they're getting a lot, but it's mainly a lot of nothing. No one wants play of, and the Lakers pick I believe is already owed to Boston for moving up this year to #1. So it would be 2 years before they get the first rounder. And I don't believe they can trade they're own pick since they're already trading one. so basically phoenix trades Bledsoe, and bender for okafor schumperts contract, and the pg from new York.

12 Aug 2017 04:02:40
NY Knicks X ORL Magic

NY take - N.Vucevic & E.Payton

G- Payton,Baker
G- Lee,Hardaway
F- Anthony,Thomas
F- Porzingis,Kuzminkas
C- Vucevic,Hernangomez,Oquinn

ORL take - F.Nkitilina & J.Noah

G- Augustin,Nkitilina,Mack
G- Fournier,Simmons,Hezonja
F- Ross,Afflalo
F- Gordon,Isaac
C- Biyombo,Noah,Speights

for NY, they get a young center who can play alongside both Porzingis & Hernangomez while adding a young guard who can feed their shooters

for ORL, they take Noah and his contract back in Florida while getting a very young future point guard of their team

dont know if it works guys have some comments

12 Aug 2017 05:20:43
Orlando turns that down. Payton has been underwhelming, but he's still a solid and Has potential. Vucevic has solid value. ntilikna would have to be package with Noah just to get out from under Noah's contract. It's probably the worst contract in the league given Noah's level of play, age, injury history, and fairly long suspension.

12 Aug 2017 17:20:45
I don't know that Peyton has a bunch of promise, but I'd rather keep him and Vuc instead of taking on Noah's contract and a point guard who's 2-3 years away from being a major contributor.

12 Aug 2017 19:57:45
Noah best bet is is to be traded to Wolves.

11 Aug 2017 14:04:18
Bulls - Magic

Bulls gets: Evan Fournier, Bismack Biyombo

Magic gets: Dwyane Wade, Robin Lopez.

11 Aug 2017 14:33:32
Elfrid payton and dwade in the backcourt is a bad fit.

11 Aug 2017 16:24:07
Orlando would have to be pretty motivated to open up cap space for them to do this. Fournier is arguably better than Wade and is significantly younger. Outside of Lopez and Biyombos contracts, I don't see a big gap in value between them. Lopez is probably a little better player, but Biyombo is younger.

12 Aug 2017 00:32:11
Hmm does Evan have multiple nba rings awards.

12 Aug 2017 03:48:43
No, but he's also not going to be 36 in a few months.

13 Aug 2017 13:06:46
no idea why Orlando would do this.
Even no idea why Chicago would do this. They should trade for draft picks and young talents, not for players with bigg contracts that will make them win 35 games and give them a bad lottery pick.

10 Aug 2017 15:11:03
Bulls trade wade and Lopez to Orlando for Bismac and Evan Fournie

Bulls trade Jerian grant for Delon Wright

Cam Payne to sas for Kyle Anderson.

09 Aug 2017 10:54:18
# TRADE # IND vs ORL

Pacers get N. Vucevic
Magic gets A. Jefferson + D. Sabonis

09 Aug 2017 04:49:49
Hawks-Bulls-Magic


•Hawks get Bismack Biyombo
Lineup:
PG: Schroeder, Delaney
SG: Bellinelli, Bazemore, Dorsey
SF: Prince, Bembry, Brussino
PF: Ilyasova, Collins, Babbitt
C: Dedmon, Biyombo, Muscala

•Bulls get Miles Plumlee and a 2nd rd pick from Hawks and Magic
-Sign Nerlens Noel 4yr 80m
-Sign Derrick Williams 1yr minimum
Lineup:
PG: Dunn, Payne, Grant
SG: LaVine, Holiday, Nwaba
SF: Wade, Valentine, Zipser
PF: Portis, Markannen, Williams
C: Noel, Felicio, Plumlee

•Magic get Robin Lopez
Lineup:
PG: Payton, Mack, Augustin
SG: Fournier, Afflalo, Hezonja
SF: Ross, Simmons, Iwundu
PF: Gordon, Isaac, Speights
C: Lopez, Vucevic, Birch.

08 Aug 2017 14:19:41
CLE- Eric Bledsoe, Aaron Gordon, Mario Hezonja
PHX- Nikola Vucavic, Elfrid Peyton, 2018 ORL 1st (top 5 protected)
ORL- Kyrie Irving, Kay Felder

Salaries match in Trade-Machine

08 Aug 2017 21:10:26
Like it.

08 Aug 2017 23:28:46
Don't like it. Gordon and Hezonja don't do much for Cavs in the short term. I don't think Payton or Gordon are anything special and both are due extensions next summer so I might actually make this move if I'm Orlando. Issue is Kyrie probably leaves after 2 years so they may be better off taking their chances with their draft pick. and dealing other pieces in another trade. Very good return for Phoenix. The pick alone I think would make it worth it.

04 Aug 2017 09:42:08
# ORL / IND #


Magic gets A. Jefferson + D. Sabonis

Pacers get N. Vucevic

04 Aug 2017 09:50:38
I think Magic should be open to moving Vucevic if the right deal arises but I don't think this is a good return. Its not even a great fit for Pacers with Turner better suited at center.

04 Aug 2017 00:52:37
Orlando-phonix-sixers trade

Sun gets jahlil okafor
Magic gets dragan bender
Sixers gets mario hezonja.

04 Aug 2017 06:39:16
Although Okafor has probably been the most effective player out of these 3 he has the lowest upside and he hasn't been great in his own right. Due to his lack of fit in the modern NBA (Both Bender and Hezonja fit the mold of what teams are looking for nowadays) and lack of upside I don't think he has the same level of trade value of these two and if anything 76ers should be giving up more.

03 Aug 2017 23:09:42
Memphis retools

W Det
1) Dummond and Johnson for Gasol

W Orlando
2) Conley for Isaac, Fournier, Payton, 18 and 2020 1st

Memphis sells cheap, but knowing the strength of the west they build and draft a young core

04 Aug 2017 01:15:32
The first one isn't terrible, but I don't see why Orlando is willing to do the 2nd. Conley is about to be 30 and has been in the league for something like 10 years and their team is terrible. Even in the East, they might not make the playoffs with Conley. They need young talent and giving up some of the young talent they do have is a step in the wrong direction.

04 Aug 2017 02:24:14
I wouldn't consider that really selling cheap on either given they are both aging stars and realistically you never get full value on moves like this. Maybe the Pistons do it since I don't know what they are trying to do but I see no way Magic would give that much up for Conley. I wouldn't even be interested in either of the players if I were both those teams I'd be focused on rebuilding instead of giving up valuable young assets for a player who won't make that much of a difference for me.

01 Aug 2017 19:15:19
Magic get Omer Asik and a second round pick (stretch Asik)

Pelicans get Terrance Ross

Or Pelicans some how get Jonathan Issac

01 Aug 2017 20:36:03
Asik is garbage smh.

01 Aug 2017 20:58:06
It'll take more than a 2nd rounder likely to just move Asik and his contract. Getting back a decent asset as well in Ross I think is highly unlikely. Pelicans getting Issac isn't likely unless they are willing to give up Davis. With Cousins an upcoming FA and Magic so awful (and recent history of what happened with Ibaka) I don't think Magic would give up Issac even for Cousins.

01 Aug 2017 21:03:17
Why would Magic add Asik when they have Vucevic, Biyombo, Speights and Birch.
If anything I expected Magic to trade a Center at the deadline and I can see it being Vucevic.

01 Aug 2017 22:07:58
I ran Asik in the ESPN trade machine for a bag of skittles. It said the trade was successful AND the skittles raised my win total by 3 games!

02 Aug 2017 13:09:55
Somehow get Johnathon Issac? They would be lucky to get Issac Hayes.

Not sure why you think anyone would deal for Asia just to stretch him unless a much more valuable asset comes with him. It's not like teams would prefer to stretch and keep dead money on the cap and there books if they didn't see a real advantage to it.

29 Jul 2017 09:46:32
Magic get Kyrie
He'll be able to take as many shots as he likes being the only shooter

Cavs get Payton, Fournier, Mario, 2018 1st (Top 3 protected)

Magic
Irving/Mack
Simmons/Affalo
Ross/Isaac
Gordon/Speights
Vucevic/Biyombo

25 Jul 2017 20:13:15
Cavs receive: Johnathon Isaac, Mario Hez, Aaron Gordon, and Elfid Payton

Magic Receive: Kyrie


Possible follow up deal

Cavs send:
Elfrid Payton and Tristan Thompson

Sun send:
Eric Bledsoe

Cavs reload with young guns, Magic get a star with 2 years left on his deal.

Cavs get a secondary star and Lebron friend in Bledsoe, Suns get a get grinder who can rebound, great compliment to having Bender and Chriss on the floor at the same time.

For the Cavs: the line up possibilities with a Lebron, Love, Bledsoe, JR, Isaac, Gordon, Mario, Shumpert are endless. I think this would be really exciting to see Lebron mentor a group like this.

26 Jul 2017 16:28:23
Dont think magic would give up their whole indefinite future for kyrie. And payton and tt13 is to much for bledoe in my opinions. The suns would jump on that right away because payton and booker would be a great backcourt who cancel out each others flaws.

25 Jul 2017 01:19:00
Hawks-Pelicans-Magic

Hawks : S.Hill + N.Vucevic

Pelicans : K.Bazemore + M.Bellineli

Magic : O.Asik + M.Delaney + 1st from Pelicans

25 Jul 2017 04:35:53
Don't think Magic would give up Vucevic for that and if they did Pelicans should get a better 3rd team involved to bring back a player better than Bazemore (Vucevic > Bazemore) .

Realistically however, I love Pelicans return for what they are giving up and Hawks are likely shopping Bazemore and Belinelli as they look to rebuild. I think they could probably make it work without including Magic since Hawks should be interested in a pick and Asik's contract isn't as bad as it was when it was signed with the salary cap jump.

24 Jul 2017 16:59:38
Cavs-Twolves-Suns idea feom Rerur


•Cavs get Eric Bledsoe, Andrew Wiggins, and Tyson Chandler
-Sign Leandro Barbosa
Lineup:
PG: Bledsoe, Calderon, Felder
SG: Wiggins, Smith, Barbosa
SF: James, Korver, Osman
PF: Love, Green, Jefferson
C: Thompson, Chandler, Tavares

•Twolves get Kyrie Irving, Jared Dudley, and Channing Frye
-Sign Roy Hibbert, Gerald Green, Greivis Vasquez
Lineup:
PG: Irving, Jones, Vasquez
SG: Teague, Crawford
SF: Butler, Dudley, Green
PF: Gibson, Bjelica, Frye
C: Towns, Patton

•Suns get Gorgui Dieng, Iman Shumpert, Cole Aldrich, and a 2nd rd pick from Twolves
-Trade Brandon Knight and a 2nd rd pick to Orlando for Elfrid Payton and DJ Augustin
Lineup:
PG: Payton, Ulis, Augustin
SG: Booker, Shumpert, Reed
SF: Jackson, Warren, Jones
PF: Chriss, Williams, Peters
C: Dieng, Bender, Aldrich.

24 Jul 2017 17:21:23
Suns don't get enough from the 3 way trade and Orlando would never do the trade with the Suns for that return.

24 Jul 2017 17:25:36
Solid trade for the Cavs although I like Frye on that team. Chandler coming off the bench would ensure that the Cavs defense doesn't go to crap every time Thompson rests. I don't think the Suns would be excited about this one though.

24 Jul 2017 17:44:24
Yea I looked at it again and Phoenix could use a little more in the 3-way trade.

Cavs get Bledsoe, Wiggins, Chandler

Twolves get Irving, Dudley, Frye, and 2018 Raptors 2nd (via Suns)

Suns get Dieng, Shumpert, Aldrich, and 2018 OKC 1st (via Twolves)

23 Jul 2017 19:46:37
Cavs, Suns, Pistons, and Magic

Cavs trade Irving, Thompson, Shumpert, Frye
Cavs receive Bledsoe, Knight, Drummond, Bradley

Suns trade Bledsoe, Knight, Bender
Suns receive Jackson, Vucevic, Leuer, 2018 Det 1st

Pistons trade Drummond, Jackson, Bradley, Leuer, 2018 1st
Pistons receive Irving, Thompson, Bender, Hezonja, Georges-Hunt, and Felder

Magic trade Vucevic, Hezonja, Georges Hunt
Magic receive Shumpert, Frye

Why?
A starting lineup of Bledsoe, Bradley, James, Love, and Drummond is full of defensive potential. Knight would also be a solid combo guard off the bench. And they retain smith, Korver, and Jefferson who Wilson come off the bench too.

Pistons get a young stud in Kyrie, a potentially lethal stretch 4 in Bender, and a hustle center in Tristan. Hezonja is also still young and has room to develop.

Bledsoe and Knight do not fit in the same timeline of Booker and Jackson. Also, the west is so competitive right now, they might as well build for the future, not the present. Jackson and Vucevic are good NBA players who could be solid starters for a couple of years until their contracts run out and the Suns are ready to compete.

23 Jul 2017 19:51:00
And for the Magic, they add frontcourt shooting and wing defense. Both of which are team needs.

23 Jul 2017 20:57:05
Awful value for Magic. Both Shumpert and Frye can leave after this season and they are giving up their best player in Vucevic, and Hezonja who hasn't done anything really in first two seasons but is still only 22 and has upside.

Trade is very good for the Pistons who land best player in the trade and the two most promising prospects while getting Thompson who can do most of what Drummond can do.

I think it would be a solid gamble for the Cavs. I think Suns could do better, Vucevic is good but not worth taking on all that salary and giving up Bender. Pistons 1st wouldn't be that valuable given Pistons return and them being in weak east.

23 Jul 2017 22:06:47
Give the magic. pick or 2 and i think it makes sense.

24 Jul 2017 00:00:41
Love it.

21 Jul 2017 21:04:03
Irving wants out!

Cavs - Magic

Cavs gets:
Fournier
Vucevic
Payton
2018 1st round pick (top 3 protected)
2018 2nd round pick
2019 2nd round pick

Magic gets:
Irving
Shumpert

Cavs sign Rose

Cavs 2017/18
Rose/Payton/Calderon
Fournier/Smith
James/Jefferson
Love/Frye
Thompson/Vucevic

21 Jul 2017 02:19:03
Cavs get green
Spurs get smith osman

Cavs get vucevic
Magic get shumpert felder Tavares 1st

Cavs get gasol
Grizzlies get love frye Jefferson 2nd

Sign rose bogut gasol motiejunas Allen ellis

Irving rose Calderon
Green Ellis Allen
James korver green
Thompson vucevic montiejunas
Gasol gasol bogut.

21 Jul 2017 14:50:04
I'm not sure why the Cavs would need 5 Centers.

18 Jul 2017 17:30:55
Knicks - Magic - Raptors - Rockets

Knicks gets:
Valenciunas
Hezonja
2020 1st Rockets (Top 10 protected)
Taylor (Waive)
Quartermann (Waive)
Long (Waive)
Onuako (Waive)

Magic gets:
Anderson
O'Quinn

Raptors gets:
Biyombo
Future 2nd Rockets

Rockets gets:
Anthony

18 Jul 2017 19:33:30
Magic and Raptors both turn that down.

19 Jul 2017 01:26:48
What NY do with 3 centers.

 
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