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13 Dec 2018 05:08:09
Magic Trade Jerian Grant Terrance Ross Johnathan Issac 2019 first round pick (lottery protected)

Hornets Trade Kemba Walker Miles Bridges Malik Monk

13 Dec 2018 11:22:57
And Charlotte does this why?

13 Dec 2018 13:13:17
Cause MJ dronk to much wiskey?

12 Dec 2018 23:55:02
Magic
Bradley Beal

Wizards
Jonathan Issac
Evan Fournier
DJ Augustin
2nd round pick



Magic
Kemba Walker (resign MAX)

Hornets
Mo Bamba
Terrence Ross
2019 1st (top 5 protected)




2019 Roster
C Nikola Vucavic (resign)
PF Aaron Gordon
SF Jonathon Simmons
SG Bradley Beal
PG Kemba Walker

13 Dec 2018 00:34:22
Absolutely no way the Magic trade Mo Bamba. They are developing him to be the future C, probably next year.

13 Dec 2018 01:24:07
I'd say Beal fir Gordon. Magic can't kerp issac bimba and gordon.

13 Dec 2018 04:59:35
Nooo! Decline.

12 Dec 2018 16:10:17
Whiteside for Hardaway Thomas
Hardaway is from Miami, they hate Whiteside. Make sense. Thomas final can be bought out for 1.8 mil.


Mudiay Burke for Melton Daniels suns 2nd
Fair value

Lee for Bayless
Wolves lack exp at sg make sense

37 wins 3rd
Ntilikina/Evans/Bayless
Trier/Melton/Baker
Knox/Dotson/Hezonja
Vonleh/Robinson/Porzingis
Whiteside/Kanter/Kornet

Next summer
Trade Whiteside final yr to Dal for Dal 2nd after Jordan make sense
Knox for mid 1st not worth more
Ntilikina for 2 Magic 2nd not worth more

With 9 mil payroll including noah money, NY will combine Walker Leonard and Durant 4yr 120mil, before it needs to resign Porzingis. Essentially knox for Langford or Grimes. Knicks draft Ja Morant.

Walker/Morant-8/Melton
Leonard/Trier/CalebMartin-45
Durant/Langford/CodyMartin-pickup
Porzingis/Paschall-33/Washington-50
Robinson/Govan-35/Bitadze-34

12 Dec 2018 17:57:21
Melton is cheaper younger and just as productive as mudiay.

12 Dec 2018 18:10:14
Mudiay is NY's best PG. No way Melton is as seasoned as Mudiay. Mudiay is raw, and so is Melton but Mudiay is a starter in NY and Melton can't crack the rotation without injuries.

12 Dec 2018 18:36:52
Minnesota lacks experience at SG? Last time I checked, Wiggins is in his 5th year and Rose is in his 10th. Okogie can't get playing time.

Minnesota has no need for Lee.

12 Dec 2018 18:58:32
Since when is Wiggins the starting 2 for the Wolves? He was the 3 all last season. Is this a Butler thing?

12 Dec 2018 19:16:45
Yes. Covington starts at SF, Wiggins at SG (as he should have been for his entire career) .

12 Dec 2018 20:21:18
Wiggens can't shoot lmao he isscorer.

12 Dec 2018 21:57:00
Makes sense if Covington is starting. I'd rather have Wiggins handle the ball than Covington. Wiggins is athletic enough to keep up with or go around other 2's or bully them with his size. Looks good to me.

11 Dec 2018 22:15:20
3 Fultz trades to teams who can't lure stars so maybe will decide to take a chance on fultz

Phi gets - Bullock and trade exception(Boban)
Det gets - Fultz

Phi gets - Simmons
Magic gets - Fultz

Phi gets - Johnson and Okafor
Nop gets - Fultz

11 Dec 2018 22:39:02
Fultz has zero value add sixers 1st.

12 Dec 2018 01:24:16
I expected the Fultz trades to resurface around the deadline. His rehab for thoracic outlet syndrome should be concluded by then and he'll have to tell everyone he has the yips.

12 Dec 2018 02:25:55
@Btec, Agreed! I still would like the Bucks to try and make deal for Fultz. They don't need him until next year, When Bledsoe's contract is up. Let Fultz take the time to get himself together. Just a thought.

12 Dec 2018 03:55:46
Lol they’re going to take Okafor back?

12 Dec 2018 07:31:02
Torque, I think anyone who believes Fultz is hurt is optimistic beyond a reasonable doubt. I have yet to see a happy ending to a yips diagnosis. Its why no one wants to publicly admit they believe its the yips, and we've been given a B. S. Story so far.

12 Dec 2018 15:07:24
Btec, Agreed! But, Do you think it would be worth it for Milwaukee to look into it? Philly couldn't be asking that much to find out? Its either that, Or try to find money for Bledsoe? I believe the Bucks will resign Middleton, as they can offer 38 Mil a year for 5 years, Whereas everyone else will be maxed at 34 mil for 4 years. Bledsoe has been playing very well, But, Where will the money come for he and Middleton, The Brogdan?

Your Thoughts?

12 Dec 2018 15:24:08
You can over the cap if you keep your own players. Fultz is a lost cause. All the media hype should be red and blue lights telling you to stay at away from Fultz. Another teletovic. Unless you have secret information about Fultz not having the yips? 10mil on your bench? Why? You would not get him for nothing. I wouldn't pay Middleton 38mil. He may get it but I don't think it's proper value. I line Middleton too. Bledsoe shouldn't be crazy high. Magic could chase him. Other than that Bledsoe is keepable for the bucks.

12 Dec 2018 16:18:01
Btec, I appreciate the reply. Maybe it would be easier for Milwaukee just to resign, Middleton, Bledsoe, Brogdan, etc. They seem to be doing Ok, with them. But, I also believe they could use a legit backup SF. behind Middleton. I think they should have kept S. Dekker instead of trading him for J. Smith with the Wizards.

12 Dec 2018 16:41:06
Brogdan isn't bad. He keeps improving and he's intelligent. Bledsoe is underrated defensively and as a facilitator. It's why keeping and paying Bledsoe isn't a bad idea. If Middleton gets the full 38, sign Bledsoe, Brogdan. See how it goes, if it doesn't work, they have tradeable deals. Not Middleton though. He's going to have to play and improve to be worth 38. Giving Durant 38 is a lot different than giving guys like Middleton 38.

12 Dec 2018 18:28:52
Btec, The low end for Middleton would be maxed at 34-35 Mil. for 4 years. Its believed a lot of teams would try and match that. Milwaukee can do 38 Mil for 5 years max. I'm not saying its a good deal? but the Bucks can simply offer more. I don't think Middleton is better than Giannis who is getting 25 Mil. a year currently.

12 Dec 2018 18:52:23
I like Middleton at 30-32mil range. He's underpaid compared to love, and Hayward but those guys are overpaid. Otto Porter Jr. Money is what I had Middleton slated to start at, finishing his Fifth at around 35, in 2mil seasonal salary increases. He could get more depending on what other teams do. Small markets have a tough time, but the Bucks dodged a bullet with Parker, luck only lasts for so long, probably have to pay Middleton.

12 Dec 2018 20:19:42
Agreed! Parker is Chicago problem now! They seem to need a lot all areas.

12 Dec 2018 20:20:12
Agreed! Parker is Chicago problem now! They seem to need a lot all areas.

11 Dec 2018 16:30:21
Rockets - Ross and Simmons

Magic - Knight, Chriss, 2019 1st & 2020 2nd

09 Dec 2018 21:53:14
Magic Trade DJ Augustin 2020 first round pick (protected)

Nets Trade D'Angelo Russell

D'Angelo Russell would be great for Magic

Magic going to re-sign D'Angelo Russell

Salary Match

09 Dec 2018 03:44:32
3 Teams Deals December 15

Magic Trade Terrance Ross Timofey Mozgov

Cavs Trade Kevin Love Jordan Clarkson

Hornets Trade Miles Bridges Marvin Williams 2019 first round pick (lottery protected)

Cavs receive Terrance Ross Timofey Mozgov Miles Bridges 2019 first round pick (lottery protected) Hornets

Hornets receive Kevin Love

Magic receive Marvin Williams Jordan Clarkson

Fair Trade & Salary Match

09 Dec 2018 04:59:45
Sub bridges for MKG and no pick.

09 Dec 2018 05:53:18
Magic wouldn’t want MKG tho Williams 10 time better than him remember MGK can’t shoot with ugly shot.

09 Dec 2018 18:52:39
Magic pass. Just what they need, another 4 and unreliable shooting wing. Why would they give up Ross for that? At least Mozgov doesn’t eat up rotation minutes.

08 Dec 2018 15:31:51
Spurs get: Wiggins, Roberson, Patterson, 2nd via okc

Thunder get: Gasol, Okogie

Wolves get Aldridge, Metu

Spurs aren't making the playoffs. Instead, they get a defensive ace NEXT year in Roberson, and they take a chance on Wiggins. If Pop works his magic on him, he's worth moving Aldridge who isn't a fit in SA anyways.

Thunder basically turn Patterson into Gasol for this season as Dre is likely out for the year. Plus, Gasol coming off the bench next to Noel could be huge. Think Kanter and his impact in previous years offensively.

Wolves have been rumored to look at bringing Love home. But Aldridge is cheaper, and he has less years on his deal. He could work well with Towns as they each have a polished inside, outside game.

Thoughts?

08 Dec 2018 16:18:55
Think wolves should get rid of their pg that's it.

08 Dec 2018 18:50:23
U thinks will get alridge lmao.

08 Dec 2018 20:34:20
Dont think any contender wants Aldridge. I'd rather open time for 2 PGs playing well.

09 Dec 2018 23:02:49
I don't like this for thunder. Gasol doesn't fit Thunders system right now.

06 Dec 2018 03:24:55
Pelicans Trade Jrue Hoilday Wesley Johnson 2019 first round pick (unprotected)

Wizards Trade Bradley Beal Kelly Oubre Jr

Pelicans got to do whatever it's take keep Anthony Davis happy get him some help

Second Trade

Magic Trade NIkola Vucevic Terrance Ross

Pelicans Trade Solomon Hill Juilus Randle 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

Salary Match

06 Dec 2018 04:41:34
Magic say hell nah.

06 Dec 2018 01:06:51
Milwaukee/ Orlando
Mil - Bledsoe, Henson and 2021 first 2020 2nd
Orlando - Vucevic and Fournier.

05 Dec 2018 21:18:58
Magic Trade Aaron Gordon Johnathan Issac 2019 first round pick (unprotected) 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

Pelicans Trade Anthony Davis

2019 NBA Off-Season

Magic should push Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler

Renounce right Terrance Ross Jerian Grant
Hold NIkola Vucevic
Trade DJ Augustin to Nets for 4 millions cash

Buyouts Timofey Mozgov 1 yrs Contract

Sign Spencer Dinwiddie 2 yrs 15 millions

Sign Kawhi Leonard 4 yrs 143 millions

Sign JJ Reddick 2 yrs 18 millions as a backup shooting guard

ReSign NIkola Vucevic 1 yrs 10 millions

Sign Patrick Beverley 2 yrs 12 millions as back up point guard

05 Dec 2018 23:59:58
Just curious why you think vuc would resign cheap after what looks like a career year?

05 Dec 2018 23:53:52
The Magic don't have the assets to get AD. Not even very close. I'd rather hold AD and dare him to walk away from his supermax over taking that deal.

06 Dec 2018 00:57:27
I’ve seen a lot of terrible AD trades on this site but this might be one of the worst.

06 Dec 2018 01:43:29
I don't think anyone will offer the ridiculous price the Pels are going to ask this season for AD. Nola is going to clean up no matter if its this season or next summer!

06 Dec 2018 15:37:27
You might want to pump the brakes on the AD is definitely gone for awhile. Its possible he stays and gets the SuperMax.

04 Dec 2018 06:38:01
December 15 Trade Deadline 3-Team Deals

Lakers Trade Brandon Ingram KCP Lonzo Ball 2019 first round pick (unprotected)

Pelicans Trade Anthony Davis Ian Clark

Magic Trade Nikola Vucevic

Lakers receive Ian Clark Anthony Davis

Magic receive KCP JaVale Mcgee 2019 first round pick (LAL)

Pelicans receive NIkola Vucevic Brandon Ingram Lonzo Ball

04 Dec 2018 11:48:20
Not a good deal for Pels.

04 Dec 2018 01:20:51
Magic Trade Jerian Grant 2021 first round pick (Top 10 protected)

Nets Trade Spencer Dinwiddie

04 Dec 2018 20:30:30
Can’t Orlando just wait until summer and sign him outright?

05 Dec 2018 01:28:12
Hoops fan - yes but they are leading division with crappy guard play. Why not try to win.

06 Dec 2018 13:31:05
Didn’t you state that they are leading their division? I thought that might count as trying to win. Why mortgage the future? They are in the playoff hunt and Dinwiddie doesn’t win them a playoff series.

03 Dec 2018 12:56:48
With wizards , New Orleans and magic stugglering they can work to getter make block buster trade , here is my idea

Magic would get
F Otto porter
C/f Jason smith
Sf/sg Solomon hill
Pg Tomas satoransky
Wizards 2020/ 2022 first round and pelican 2019 second pick

Pelican would get
Pf Aaron Gordon
C Ian Mahimi
Sf Kelly oubre
Wizards 2019 and 2021 first round
Magic 2 round pick and 2020 1 round pick

Wizards would get
Pf Anthony Davis
Sf Terrance Ross
Pg Jerian grant
C nickola Vucevic

03 Dec 2018 13:57:18
LOL enjoy Wall’s contract Wiz fan.

03 Dec 2018 14:06:12
You can’t be serious?

03 Dec 2018 22:31:02
Stugglering? Even if that was a thing, it does not justify a pretty lame trade idea. There is no way AD goes to Washington.

03 Dec 2018 22:42:29
Magic declined that.

03 Dec 2018 12:52:38
Magic Trade Jerian Grant Melvin Frazier 2021 first round pick (Top 3 protection)

Knicks Trade Frank Ntilikina

Magic get Frank Ntilikina

Knicks get Jerian Grant Back to Knicks Melvin Frazier & Draft Pick in return

Phil Jackson Traded Jerian Grant to Bulls for Derrick Rose couple years ago

Salary Match

03 Dec 2018 16:56:10
I don't think Frank is worth a 1st round pick.

03 Dec 2018 17:51:57
@carl, maybe a top 20 protected pic.

02 Dec 2018 20:22:41
Magic Trade Jerian Grant Melvin Frazier 2021 first round pick (Top 3 protected)

Knicks Trade Frank Ntilikina

Salary Match

02 Dec 2018 21:47:22
I don’t get all of the first round pick talk for Ntilikina. He’s been awful on the offensive side and the Knicks have basically given up on him a quarter of the way through his 2nd year. Didn’t he fall out of their rotation? It’s not like they are trying to win now or have a ton of good young guards. I can see throwing a 2nd and some expiring koneynout for him, but a 1st seems pretty pointless.

03 Dec 2018 01:10:49
IMO Ntilikina isn't worth a 1st, or NYK would keep him. If I am Orlando, at most I'd offer:

Orlando: Ntilikina

NYK: Grant, Frazier, 2019 and 2020 2nds.

02 Dec 2018 19:27:27
Mavs get - Ross(exp) Abrines(exp) and Roberson

Okc gets - Barnes Simmons & Augustin

Magic gets - Schroder

Smith/Bares
Matthews/Roberson
Doncic/Ross
Martin/Abrines (Dirk)
Jordan/Powell

Westbrook/Augustin
Simmons/Ferguson
George/Grant
Barnes/Patterson
Adams/Noel

03 Dec 2018 00:28:55
Magic trade starts and sixth man and 7th man for an overpaid PG? I'd rather lose and draft one.

03 Dec 2018 01:12:00
Orlando gives up Simmons, Ross, and Augustin for Schroeder? Hard pass. Simmons himself is worth more.

30 Nov 2018 23:18:15
Magic rumored to be interested in Frank Ntilikina...

What do you think of something like this:

Ntilikina for Jerian Grant, Jarrel Martin, and a 2021 2nd rounder?

Magic get an upgraded version of Grant (good defender, no shot) and alleviate front court crowding.

Knicks get cheaper similar player and an extra $5 million in cap space in the off season

01 Dec 2018 19:46:10
Knicks take Ross who expires at summer.

04 Dec 2018 20:28:30
what would NY send back to make up the $5 million cap difference? Mudiay?

28 Nov 2018 21:39:44
Magic gets Fultz

76ers get Simmons

28 Nov 2018 22:13:15
Plus 1st, and 2nd from Philly.

29 Nov 2018 16:35:01
Simmons or Ross for fultz seems fair.

28 Nov 2018 20:36:57
MIL - WAS - ORL

Milwaukee: Beal, Augustin, Smith
Orlando: Bledsoe, Snell
Washington: Fournier, Brogdon, DDV, Maker, MIL 2022 1st and their 2020 2nd back

Bucks make their Big 3 with Beal, Midds and Giannis.

Magic shake things up to make it to the playoffs.

Washington get a decent sg at a fair contract, assets for their future and avoid the tax

28 Nov 2018 21:07:42
Bledsoe, Brogdon, 2 MIL 1sts for Beal is a better deal I think. Dellavedova needs to stay out unless you want to throw a pick for him. Orlando doesn't need to be involved.

28 Nov 2018 21:36:28
There is no Delly in that, it's Donte. Also a third team for Bledsoe is needed, since he can't play with Wall IMO.

29 Nov 2018 00:37:46
Noted milpso, I figured it could be a short term experiment since Bledsoe is expiring and the Wiz could either keep him if it works or let him go if it doesn't? I'd keep DDV. He does now what took Connaughton at least 2 seasons to accomplish. Connaughton is only better now, not for long. He plays hard, I like his game. Connaughtons too.

 
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