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20 May 2017 00:47:20
sixers offseason

PHI: #4, #5

PHX: #3, Henderson

SAC: Best of LAL/ PHI 2018, #32, #46, #50, #54, Warren, Anderson, Okafor, TWC

PHI draft Tatum, Monk, Jeanne, Bacon

PHX draft Jackson

Sign Ilyasova
Sign Reddick

PG: Simmons/ TJ/ Bayless
SG: Monk/ Reddick/ Stauskas
SF: Tatum/ Covington/ Bacon
PF: Saric/ Ilyasova/ Long
C: Embiid/ Jeanne/ Holmes

(Defense)
PG: Monk
SG: Tatum
SF: Simmons
PF: Saric
C: Embiid

(This does not include the rest of the Suns and Kings offseason)

20 May 2017 07:02:59
Suns moving up and 76ers moving down makes sense since Jackson is a great prospect but not a great fit for 76ers but I'm not sure that offer convinces Kings to part with #5 pick when Fox looks like a great fit for them.

18 May 2017 17:11:36
LAL: A Afflalo, A Tolliver, #3 pick

SAC: T Mozgov, J Clarkson, J Randle

PHI: D Russell, #10 pick

LAL: Draft Ball & Jackson #2 & #3, Adebayo #28

Have about $40M in cap space if Young opts out and release T Black

18 May 2017 18:33:17
This is awful for SAC…They give up the 10th pick, and take on the NBA’s worst contract in Mosgov? This would get everyone fired.

18 May 2017 19:25:07
They get 2 young prospects in Clarkson and Randle and keep their #5 pick. They add assets with this. Nobody of relevance is going to sign with them in free agency. With Gay opting out and Tyreke being a free agent, this helps them with getting to the salary floor while turning 2 assets (#5 and #10) into 3.

18 May 2017 20:30:00
Good luck to all Lakers fans in getting rid of Deng and Mozgov contracts.

18 May 2017 21:20:06
How long are clarkson and randle going to be considered "young prospects"?

18 May 2017 21:37:37
Not sure why Kings would do this. Randle would be a poor fit alongside their centers and will be due big bucks in a year. Clarkson makes a decent amount of money already and although a solid player Kings can get a player with more upside at #10. Mozgov is a bad contract and cap space is valuable even to a bad team that won't be able to sign top FA. Teams will always be looking to dump bad contracts and will give up assets to move them. Lakers aren't giving up enough to convince Kings to give up their #10 and take on this salary when they can get a better fitting prospect at #10 and still have cap space to take one of Portlands bad contracts for one of their 3 firsts.

76ers are coming out ahead with Russell who would be a better fit than Jackson due to his shooting ability and still keep a lotto pick where they could add a solid prospect (ideally a guard like Ntilikina or Smith) .

18 May 2017 22:22:26
Well Randle is only 22 and Clarkson is 24, you tell me when they stop being "young prospects"?

I remember reading that statistically, around 27 to 28 is on average the most productive age of a player.

18 May 2017 23:50:37
Isn't Randle an expiring contract? Isn't clarkson a backup and nothing more? Get out of here with this junk.

19 May 2017 00:36:15
Sixers keep #3 and give LA back their 2018 first round pick instead.

18 May 2017 10:30:43
Kings-sixers trade

Kings get #3
Sixers gets #5 and right to bogdanovic.

18 May 2017 14:01:14
Sixers never do this. Josh Jackson is a top talent, a wing who loves to play defense and does it at a high level. Has a tremendous bball IQ, and can make his teammates better. his shot is ok (38% from 3ppt), and seems to fit todays NBA perfectly.

18 May 2017 14:22:08
The rights to bog have no value.

18 May 2017 15:50:39
I agree the rights to Bogdanovic are relatively useless, but if the Kings were actually going to send something worthwhile to grab #3, I think the 76ers should take it. I like Jackson, but Tatum and Fox are pretty much on the same level, and all three would be good additions to Philly. Tatum might even be the best addition, and at least one would be available at 5. That said, that's the very reason that I don't think the Kings should give up anything of real value to move up. They'll get a guy of that value where they are. With such a deep draft, I think you've got Fultz as the clear #1, then 2 through 5 or 6 is pretty compatible, and the rest of the top ten is in a tier just below.

This is the year that you're going to get a lot of hits early on, but you're also going to see a LOT of real players through the rest of the draft when you look back at the Wikipedia page a few years from now.

17 May 2017 15:29:16
Orl & Dal
I think the top 10 goes like this.

Bos- Fultz
Lal- Ball
Phi- Jackson or Tatum
Pho- Jackson or Tatum
Sac- Issac
Orl-Fox
Min- Markkanen
Nyk- Monk
Dal- Smith Jr
Sac- Ntilikina

Orl get 9th pick and 2018 pick top 5 protected.
Draft: Smith Jr

Dal get 6th pick
Draft: Markkanen

Orl do it to add a Pg of the future if he can stay healthy and future pick as they need to get assets after 5 years of bad luck in the draft their still no closer to getting their star.

Dal have been high on Markkanen due to the ideal fit next to Noel and the learning from Dirk but I'd say with Sac taken 5th they will likely take a forward as it's likely the 10th pick will be a guard and that limits Min options as everyone had them taking Issac and with him off the board Markkanen seems the best fit so by doing this trade they get their guy.

17 May 2017 22:12:48
I don't like the value for Dallas especially when many other teams (maybe not Dallas) have Zach Collins, who can also be a stretch big, higher than Markkanen. Regardless I don't think Ferrel is the long term answer for them at pg so Mavs are probably better off getting Smith (Knicks may take him tho) as point guard is a much more important position than pf. They could then try and nab someone like Nikola Mirotic in RFA.

17 May 2017 02:15:39
OKC AND KINGS TRADE TRADE MACHINE APPROVED!

OKC trade - Kanter, Abrines, Sabonis, Huestis and 21st overall draft pick 2017

KINGS trade - Gay, Labissere, Koufus, McLemore and the 10th overall pick 2017

WHO LOSES?

17 May 2017 07:03:53
Don't like it for the Kings. Labissiere was balling out at the end of the year and they should be able to get a solid prospect at #10 (Markkanen or Ntilikina) .

Kanter and Sabonis are both high floor, low ceiling guys who aren't the type of players a team as bad as the Kings should be targeting. In fact none of those pieces has the upside that Labissiere or the #10 pick could provide.

15 May 2017 19:18:02
SAC: Trade Rudy Gay (OKC) Kosta Koufus (OKC)
OKC: Andre Roberson (SAC) Enes Kanter (DAL)
DAL: Dwight Powell (SAC)
Sacramento sign a trades Rudy Gay to a playoff team,
OKC gets scoring a better back up big, while DAllas gets another asset that can score behind noel.

15 May 2017 20:31:13
Rudy Gay opted out.

13 May 2017 05:46:50
Let's be honest the thunder can't make any huge significantly big moves without going over the cap because they want to reset the clock of going over the cap 4 out of 5 seasons where you have to pay a even bigger penalty for going over the space. , which I mean isn't terrible because they will still have at the very least a little better of a team next year and here's a few things how they can.

Extend Westbrook
Resign Roberson and Gibson
The thunder obviously want to resign Roberson but sign Gibson to trade him later on to get some value from him and stay under the tax.

Trade Kanter and maybe either to the kings for willie Cauley-stein and their 10th or maybe even 6th or 8th round pick where ever they lan and the first second round pick. Or trade kanter tot he celtics if willing for their first round pick, second round pick (37) or last two second round picks and Avery Bradley. The kings trade would most likely happen.

If still don't have a back up after draft or uncertain pg could trade singler for brandon knight this would work bc both cities won't both players off their team and it would cut some cap room from the suns and give the thunder a little bit more cap room but knight would actually play.

After trades find a solid back up either in the draft or free agency and a cheap wing option that could help out team and possibly a center.

13 May 2017 11:47:03
Kanter for the possible first overall pick in the draft?
I'm sure the Celtics will jump on that one as fast as they can.

13 May 2017 12:28:52
You had me until you attempted to trade Kanter for top 10 picks and/ or picking up a superior player in Bradley. Both are just ridiculous.

Kanter has little value. Don't know if you've heard, but during the playoffs Donivan at one point said to an Assistant "we can't play Kanter". That's not good to say the least.

They will be able to move Kanter, there will be teams looking for an offensive big off the bench, but I would a trade like this is much more likely:

To CHI - Kanter

To OKC - MCW (option picked up), future 2nd.

13 May 2017 15:45:22
Kanter and McDermott to the Knicks for Noah and a 2nd.

12 May 2017 16:10:50
Bucks Trade Middleton
Bucks Receive Cauley Stein Tolliver Richardson

Kings Trade Tolliver Cauley Stein Richardson Gay Papagiannis
Kings Receive Russell Clarkson Deng Bucks

Lakers Trade Russell Clarkson Deng
Lakers Receive Middleton Gay Papagiannis

12 May 2017 16:28:42
Can't imagine Bucks doing that trade. Kings may do it although with two top 10 picks in a top pg heavy draft they may prefer to hang on to their bigs especially since dealing WCS and Papagiannis would leave them fairly thin there.

Don't understand why Lakers would want Gay but Papagiannis would be a good young big, Middleton is a great 3 and D guy, they dropped Deng and Clarksons contracts and assuming they keep their pick could get a pg to replace Russell.

13 May 2017 01:11:42
There is zero chance the bucks do that.

11 May 2017 19:38:31
SAC: T Chandler, #2 pick

PHO: A Tolliver (waive), G Papagiannis, #8, & #10 picks

With Gay opting out and the franchise's history of not being able to sign free agents, Kings need salary on their books. This uses a mid and a late lottery pick to move up and get J Jackson, probably the best wing prospect in the draft this year. They take on Chandler'a contract, but that helps them reach the salary floor with only $49M in contracts.

The top of the draft is loaded with PGs. They already have theirs in Bledsoe unless they want to trade him and take one of the PG prospects. This gives them 2 top 10 picks in a deep draft and a young center prospect they can develop and take a look at.

11 May 2017 21:55:28
I think the Suns would much rather get Jackson themselves to play alongside Bledsoe, Booker, Chriss, Bender, etc. They need to add that second big player alongside Booker. At 8 and 10 they'd have a chance at guys like Markkanen or Monk. but those aren't the guys they need. With no dominant center they might as well take the top guy at the 3. If someone like the 76ers or Lakers wanted to move up a couple of spots. then you'd have plenty of guys to look at. But all the way back to 8 would require a lot more for me.

12 May 2017 02:47:15
100% speculation here. Suns luck out and get #1 pick. Lakers miss out on the top 3.which reverts to the Sixers. PHX trades that number #1 pick and someone like Brandon Knight perhaps to PHILA. for their top 2 picks (#3? #4?) . Sixers can take Fultz, Ball. whoever. Suns can take Jackson and Fox.
Again. purely speculative.

11 May 2017 00:02:19
Boston: J Jackson+ 1rnd pick Sac 2019

Philly: Fulzz

11 May 2017 19:20:53
I could honestly see Boston trading pick 1 for the right package if they get it. I'm interested to see what Boston fans think would be fair.

12 May 2017 16:30:01
This trade makes sense but not sure why boston would want more picks unless they choose to go the younger route. and @simmons agreed i'm a boston and us fans, we don't think anything is fair haha. I at least try and see things from both teams perspective.

10 May 2017 19:06:18
If Lakers keep top 3 pick:

LAL: J Butler, R Lopez, A Afflalo, A Tolliver (waive)

CHI: T Mozgov, J Clarkson, D Russell, '17 top 3 pick, & 2021 1st (top 10 protected)

SAC: L Deng, '17 1st (via HOU), future 2nd

Free Agency
J Teague 2 yr $40M (team option 2nd yr)
T Ennis 2 yr $15M (team option 2nd yr)

Teague/Ennis
Butler/Afflalo
Ingram/Brewer
Randle/Nance
Lopez/Zubac/Nwaba

In 2018, Lakers could potentially sign 2 star free agents, maybe R Westbrook & D Cousins

R Westbrook
J Butler
B Ingram
J Randle
D Cousins

10 May 2017 20:00:35
It makes sense for everyone. This team could be competitive enough to attract other stars and they'll have the capspace and flexibility to add them. The Bulls get a solid return for Butler. The Kings get a solid return for a player that isn't useful in their situation and their unusable cap space.

11 May 2017 00:11:41
Deng's contract is guaranteed for $54 million dollars over the next three years. The HOU pick (#28) and a future second isn't nearly enough to turn that contract into cap space.

10 May 2017 06:27:40
PHI

PHI/CHI

PHI get Jimmy Butler & Jerian Grant

CHI get Jahlil Okafor , Robert Covington , SAC pick unprotected , 2017 own 1st round pick & Gerald Henderson

sign JJ Reddick
sign James Johnson
sign Rodney Stuckey

Pg Simmons/Grant/McConnell
Sg Reddick/Stuckey/Stauskas
Sf Butler/Luwawu
Pf Saric/Johnson
Ce Embiid/Holmes

10 May 2017 06:45:57
If I'm 76ers I'd want to see some more from my young guys (first off healthy) before making an aggressive move like this for a superstar. A premature trade like this could end horribly if Simmons and Embiid continue to struggle with injuries and can't do anything meaningful before Butler becomes a FA.

I wouldn't be in a rush to be good if I were them especially not before we get an idea of what a healthy Simmons and Embiid duo looks like.

09 May 2017 20:23:08
If LAL keep pick this year:

LAL: P George, A Afflalo (waive), A Tolliver (waive)

IND: D Russell, J Randle, '17 pick (top 3), 2021 1st (top 10 protected)

SAC: L Deng, J Clarkson, '17 1st (via HOU), & future 2nd

Free Agency:
Sign K Lowry 4 yrs $100M
Sign Mason Plumlee 4 yrs $60M
Still have about $10M available in cap space

Lowry
George
Ingram/Brewer
Nance
Plumlee/Zubac/Mozgov

09 May 2017 23:29:01
Russell, Randle, Clarkson, and 3 first round picks (one which is guranteed top 3 this year) is a huge price to pay for george and dumping dengs contract. don't get me wrong, george is a star player, but seems like a mortgage of an entire future for 1 player.

10 May 2017 01:28:51
I agree that price for George is definitely on the high end but getting George would potentially allow them to attract other top talent in FA and really build something. "The first domino" so to speak. I wouldn't go for Lowry and Plumlee tho, I'd probably wait until 2018 offseason when Westbrook (from Cali), Cousins and others will potentially be FA.

That's obviously great value for Pacers on George. If I were them I wouldn't even mind taking on Mozgov's contract for that return since they aren't going to be major players in FA for awhile.

Similarly to Pacers if I were Kings taking on Deng's contract isn't that bad especially when they'd get back a first, 2nd and a solid player in Clarkson.

10 May 2017 01:31:45
That is a lot to give up, but it seems realistic. In the second trade they could probably pull Clarkson out. I think he would be good as a combo guard coming off the bench or swap out Randle for Clarkson in the first trade.

10 May 2017 03:47:52
No deal from lakers.

10 May 2017 04:03:45
It's George and Lowry who could potentially attract more stars if cap space is available.

10 May 2017 04:06:55
One of those 1sts is late, and likely the 2021 will be too.
So a top 3 pick, Russell, Randle (who will get more money after next season) and Clarkson are nice young players, but I'd be happy flipping them for 2 all stars and dumping a bad contract.

08 May 2017 14:53:15
Kings get Jonas Valencunas and #23

Raptors get Willie Cauley Stein and #10

08 May 2017 15:34:31
Why would the Kings do this? They get older, move back in the draft, take on salary, and don't end up with a player they can build around.

08 May 2017 16:24:06
Because they have the #8 pick too. I knew there would be someone to come on here and just assume that they are trading the only pick they have. so no. they trade ONE of their lottery picks for a near all star level center.

08 May 2017 17:21:19
Yeah but the Kings are in a rebuilding mind set and 2 lottery picks are 10 times better than moving back in the draft and getting yet another center that will not help in getting to the playoffs.

08 May 2017 17:21:49
It doesn't matter how many picks they have, everything rkenne_16 said still holds true. Valanciunas is a solid player but not a superstar. I'd rather keep WCS who also projects to be a solid player who flashed talent when he was finally given consistent minutes after Cousins trade. Additionally, the 10th pick could yield another high upside prospect like Nitlikina.

08 May 2017 17:23:01
They have two picks and almost no young talent. wcs has a chance to develop into a starting Center. He has a chance to be just as good Jonas and the Kings aren't going to be in the playoffs for the forseeable future. They have plenty of time to let him develop.

08 May 2017 17:24:00
This is not a good trade for Kings. Move from mid-lottery to a #23 which likely never develops into a good player. JV has a lot of salary and he's older, while WCS is cheaper and more athletic. Kings would never do this.

09 May 2017 05:11:09
The two assets the Kings are giving up are both better than the two that the Raptors are giving up.

Do you really think Valencunis has value in today's NBA?

06 May 2017 23:44:29
Lakers/76ers

If Laker pick conveys to sixers this year(53.1% cance it will), then the lakers 2019 #1 automatically goes to Orlando. This leaves the Lakers without a #1 in 2019 and only a late first via rockets this year.

Sixers get: Russell
Lakers get: kings unprotected 2019 #1 and Okafor.

07 May 2017 14:24:18
No from Lakers.

08 May 2017 16:24:18
No from Sixers.

06 May 2017 10:02:07
Cleveland: CP3+ C Anthony
trade: K Irving+ Shumpert+ smith

Clippers:J noah+Shumpert+ Smith 1rnd pick LA17+ 1rnd pick Sac2019+ 1rnd pick NY 17 and 19
trade: CP3+ B Griffin

Philly: K Irving
Trade: 1rnd pick La17+ 1rnd pick Sac 2019

NY: B Griffin
Trade: J Noah+ 1rnd pick 17 and 19


The Clippers start a rebuilt and go under the cap again.

New York dumps Noah's contract and receive a star

Philly receive a pointguard that can shoot threes.

LBJ can play with his friends

06 May 2017 14:23:02
I don't think philly is getting irving for 2 lottery picks. he's an established superstar who is only 24. As much as i would want it to happen, it would be a as miracle.

06 May 2017 15:15:04
I think the Clippers would rather have Irving than the two picks. I agree with Jvoug, the 76ers aren't giving up enough. If they want Irving I think you would have to add atleast this years lottery pick as well as possibly a few of their lesser younger players. I think Shumpert or Jr going to Philly would good for everyone involved as well. The 76ers need a sg and the Clippers aren't going to be competitive after gutting their team. Maybe, throw one of the 76ers back up centers to Cleveland.

06 May 2017 16:03:56
Reworking it a bit

Cleveland gets Jordan, Melo, and Paul

Philly gets Kyrie and Smith

The Clippers get Shumpert, Frye (exp), Jefferson (exp), Cedi Osman, Felder, Noah, Holmes, 17 and 19 Philly, 17 Lakers, 2 2nds from Philly, Knicks 17 and 19, 2 2nds from the Knicks, Cavs 21 and 23, swaps with the Cavs in 20 and 22, and 2 2nds from the Cavs

The Knicks get Griffin and Crawford.

The Cavs sell out to try ans get more Championships in Lebron's prime

Philly gets a back court that will get them back in the playoffs.

The Clippers drop a ton of salary and have all the assets they'll need to rebuild

The Knicks get a young super star to help attract more talent and out from under Noah's contract.

06 May 2017 20:10:12
I don't think you will be able to add three max deal players to a team who already has two max deal players.

06 May 2017 20:35:07
At there current salaries it works shrink. Obviously, if Paul wants it his salary could be 30 something million instead of 22 million next year, but maybe for a chance at a title and to play with Melo and Lebron he'd be willing to take a smaller raise.

07 May 2017 03:07:11
The CBA has rules for the luxury tax and the repeater rule to make it financially impossible for teams to have $180 mil payrolls, that cost them $400 mil a year.

07 May 2017 05:14:07
In the trade Scenerio they aren't adding salary and I'm not sure how the numbers work with the repeat tax, but with the rise in salary cap they would be roughly 10 million dollars less over the line.

07 May 2017 00:55:48
So the knicks trade pick for free agent and 30+ yr old sg. I get it great trade for ny.

07 May 2017 06:44:28
33.2 LeBron
22.6 Love
22.6 Jordan
16.4 TT
26.2 Melo
30.0? Paul -- still not his max
------------------
$151 million for six players

Need eight more players for roster minimum.

Estimate $120 mil for the lux threshold next year, so $40 mil over the lux.

$65 mil in repeater lux taxes on the first $20 over the lux, $143 mil on the next $20

$151 + $65 + $143 = $360 million payroll.

08 May 2017 00:27:20
Definitely not what you need Philadelphia . everyone would like to have Irving on their team. But the Sixers have a very good team of young men only need their bank's punctuation and patience . nothing else.

08 May 2017 15:28:52
Everything above is terrible for the clippers. not to mention both cp and blake are free agents and not tradeable. if they were to blow the team up, they can't use blake and cp, they won't blow it up for scrubs, and will want young players and draft picks, not noah and shumpert.

05 May 2017 16:55:04
LAL keep top 3 pick

Trade #1
LAL: J Butler

CHI: '17 top 3 pick, J Clarkson, C Brewer, '19 1st (top 5 protected)

Trade #2
LAL: Afflalo (Non-Guaranteed), Tolliver (Non-Guaranteed), '17 1st (via NOP)

SAC: Deng, Randle, '17 1st (via HOU), & '18 2nd (via DEN)

Free Agents:
B Griffin (4 yr $135M)
M Plumlee (4 yr $60M)
Backup PG, SG, SF

Russell
Butler
Ingram
Griffin
Plumlee

05 May 2017 18:55:29
You can't top 3 protect the 17 pick. The lakers only have it if it's top 3 and I think you would need to adf Russell or Ingram to it. The 2nd trade is bad.

05 May 2017 19:13:20
The '17 pick isn't protected. Lakers only get it if it's top 3. I'm saying the future 1st also included for Butler (in 2019) should have some protection on it.

I think Randle for the #10 pick (NOP) is pretty fair. SAC takes Deng's contract for a 1st rd and future 2nd. You could add another future 2nd if you want, but I think that's pretty fair no?

05 May 2017 19:40:47
Misread the first one my fault. As for the 2nd one, I think they would rather take their chances with the lottery. It's a stack draft and they would control the guy for four years for cheap. They would have to commit some where around 30 to 40 million in all after resigning Randle and taking on Deng just to get Randle who is decent and still pretty young, but doesn't look like a guy who is going to ever be more than a mediocre starter. He's a back to the basket player without a ton of length or athleticism in a league that's moving away from that. Unless he develops a really solid outside shot I'm not sure where he fits in a modern offense. Plus, they may be able to get a late first out Affalo on his own.

06 May 2017 00:52:30
If lakers keepthere 2017 pick, then 2018 i protected #1 goes to the sixers. You cannot trade consecutive #1 picks, therfore lakers can't offer the 2019 pick on a trade. Making your trade impossible.

06 May 2017 20:03:59
I can't follow your trade. You need to re-write it, and include NOP

From what you've written, I don't think Randle, in the final year of rookie scale, is worth anything close to the #10 pick. He hasn't shown he's even a starter on a team, and even if he does this season, a team will have to pay to keep him.

Deng might be able to be moved for cap space for the #10, but remember this is $64 mil. I don't think you're expecting a little too much if you want the de down to also get the HOU pick and the DEN 2nd.

Jvoug is right - even if you get the 2017 HOU 1st, you can't trade the LAL 2019 1st. You could offer the 2020, or "a pick to be conveyed two years after an outstanding future pick"

06 May 2017 21:32:16
not giving a top 3 pick for a player whos not in the top 3 and doesn't make his team better.

07 May 2017 04:33:19
RamonChong, what? Butler is a top 20 player. How is he not worth a top 3 pick? The Lakers have had 3 top 3 picks recently and none of them look like they'll ever be any where near as good as Butler.

05 May 2017 03:40:16
Bulls get Fournier Biyombo Thomas
Knicks get Wade Bosh
Orlando get Lee Rondo Noah Payne
Heat get Augustin O'Quinn Watson-Released

Rondo/Payton/Payne
Lee/Hezonja/Thornwell-35th
Ross/Tatum-5th/Rudez
Gordon/Motley-25/Bell-33rd
Vucevic/Noah/Zimmerman

Teague/Grant/Canaan
Fornier/Valentine/Iwundu-38th
Butler/Thomas/Zipser
Portis/Rabb-16/Felicio
Lopez/Biyombo/Lauvergne

Bosh won't retire so Heat move on to pay Gallo & Milsap 20mil

Dragic/Augustin/McCruder
Richardson/T.Johnson/Ferguson-14th
Gallo/Winslow/
Milsap/J.Johnson/Reed
Whiteside/O'Quinn/White


CP3 joins forces with Bosh Melo and Wade for 4yr 100mil


CP3/Fox-6th/Felton
Wade/Foye/Hart-44th
Melo/Kuzminskas/Early
Porzingis/Nene/Kingsley-58th
Hernangomez/Plumlee/Bosh-playoffs

05 May 2017 04:29:09
Why would Orlando do that? They give up their best player and get nothing of value.

05 May 2017 07:49:45
Bulls landing Fournier and Biyombo are guys who have potential to help build around Butler but they could do with a better pg.

Fournier is a good starter in the right system or a 6th man at worst on a playoff team. Why would Orlando trade that for Noah whose contract maybe as bad as Biyombo's but Biyombo has more value as he can stay healthy and if he's used right could be a productive starter in today's go small NBA. Rondo is bad locker room guy and they have a player like him in Payne. Lee is on a steep decline and Payne has failed to make any impact.
Orlando would need a lot of picks after taking those four players.

This would be great for the Knicks if both wade and bosh were in their prime otherwise why do it they should be adding young guys to build around Porzingis use their pick to add someone to complement him say a pg like Fox and trade Melo to fill their other needs.

Heat add two backup players who both had bad seasons which out of all the deals does make sense considering they can't play bosh so they get something for him adding depth but still don't think anyone will wanna trade for Bosh if he can't play.

03 May 2017 19:52:17
Hornets get Melo Noah O'Quinn Thomas
Knicks get M.Williams Gilchrist Rozier Lamb Zeller-release
Celtics get Marshall Plumlee

Swap picks Hornets

Jordan pays for elite team
Walker/Session/Smith-11
Batum/Belinelli
Melo/Thomas/Graham
Tank/O'Quinn/O'Bryant
Zeller/Noah/Woods

Add athletism and defense, more importantly get younger
Hill/Rozier/Randle
Lee/Lamb/Bluiett-58th
Gilchrist/Kuzminskas/Early
Williams/Patton-11th/Kingsley-44th
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

Fultz for Drummond
Thomas/Jackson/Mason-53rd
Bradley/Smart/Thornwell-37th
Crowder/Brown/D.Brooks-55th
Horford/Yabusele/Mickey
Drummonds/Olynyk/Zizic

04 May 2017 00:30:27
WOW!
My GPS broke trying to figure out where you are going with this one.

04 May 2017 00:46:02
Swap Olynyk and PLUMLEE.

02 May 2017 17:43:46
MUST HAPPEN TRADE

San Antonio - Afflalo (waive), Tolliver (waive), Kyle O'Quinn (backup C)

New York - Tony Parker, Pau Gasol (must opt-in), Rodney McGruder

Miami - Carmelo

Sacramento - Bosh and 2017 1st round pick from Miami

San Antonio saves $24 million so they can sign Chris Paul.

New York drafts Frank Ntilkina (Phil Jackson is not afraid to draft foreign prospects). Tony Parker can mentor Ntilkina (both french) and Gasol (former Jackson player) can mentor Hernangomez (both Spanish). Knicks will not be contenders next season so they can use these veterans to help build up their youth. And then after next season, their big salaries will be off the books. Mcgruder is also a young player is a nice piece to sweeten the deal.

Miami gets Carmelo, who would be happy to waive his no trade clause. Miami now has a big 3 of dragic, Anthony, and whiteside. They also have some solid young guys in winslow, tyler Johnson, and Richardson. And most importantly, they get rid of bosh's contract. I believe this team is capable of making the conference finals.

Sacramento absorbs bosh's contract for 2 years during their rebuild but they get another lottery pick (giving them 3 this year). Kings make this move and trust the process of stockpiling assets.

02 May 2017 20:08:20
I think Miami and Sacramento would probably jump at this. I think NY would definitely do it, even if it just puts butts in the seats. The holdback I have is San Antonio. I really don't see Pop moving Parker unless he asks, and even with Paul a possibility, I'm not sure if he would move those two guys for him. It might make total basketball sense as Paul and O'Quinn probably fit the rest of that squad better. but I just don't see him making that move. This is one of the few "complex" trades out there that actually makes some sense though.

02 May 2017 20:31:46
I understand the reservations Pop may have in dealing Parker who has grown up before his eyes and been his starting pg for past 15+ seasonss but the playoffs thus far have shown Spurs need to do something if they want to stay competitive. Adding Paul who is still the best pure point guard in the league would be a very good compliment to Leonard and hopefully would lead LA to be a more consistent contributor. If Paul is truly interested in going to SA then I think its too difficult to say no to him. I could see Pop saying no if it were a player of a lower caliber or different style but we are speaking of Chris Paul who appears to be the last great traditional, pass first pg who was made for Pops system.

At 35 and numbers that are near all-time lows for him maybe Parker considers retirement (his days as a starter are nearing an end but he seems to have a few years left in him) . A bit of a stretch but it would be a way for him to go out a Spur and help Pop make this complicated decision.

 
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