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15 Feb 2018 22:36:33
I want to prefix this with Aaron Gordon is a restricted free agent. So his presumed value is probably more than Philly fans would expect, but less than Orlando fans would have want.

Philly gets Aaron Gordon(s and t)

Orlando gets Saric, the Lakers pick (or Sac top 5 protected reverting to the Philly 2019) and 2 2nds

16 Feb 2018 00:27:25
Not a bad trade.
Gordon is definitely a better player then Saric, but not "enough better" to also include a lottery pick this year in a very strong draft. I think the chemistry with Saric works great in philly. he's 23, on a bargain basement contract, is putting up 15 pts and 7 rebs a game, and is shooting 39% from 3pt. Again, I really like Gordon, but not the move for the sixers.

16 Feb 2018 10:54:36
Agree with Jvoug. Gordon is a good player, but no need for philly to give up Saric and a good draft pick.

16 Feb 2018 15:31:07
I actually think its a bit high of a price but it makes Philly, an up and coming team, even more dangerous. Maybe Orlando gives a bit more but overall i like this trade.

16 Feb 2018 21:24:03
If philly land this years lakers pick the kings pick goes to Boston. As part of the Fultz deal.
Gordon adding a jumpshot has elevated his game and potential so Saric and a lottery pick is fair as Gordon has star potential but even if he does reach it he will still be a quality player and complement Philly core but not sure Orlando will part with him.

15 Feb 2018 19:59:49
LA-Memphis

LA: M Gasol
Memphis:Ingram+Deng

LA-Minny
Minny: Ball
LA: J Butler

LA-Sac
Sac:Zubac+Bryant+1rnd pick Cle
LA:WC Stein

LA:
sign LBJ to a 120M 4y contract
sign CP3 80M 4y contract
T Ariza 40M 4y contract
Reddick 10M 2y

C: M Gasol/WC Stein
PF: LBJ/ Kuzma
SF:T Ariza/Hart
SG: Butler/Reddick
PG: CP3/Ennis

15 Feb 2018 20:43:05
There is no way Minny gives up Butler for Ball, nor will Paul sign for $20M a year or Redick at $5M.

15 Feb 2018 22:55:31
Minny will have a nice run with Butler this year, but he's already 29 and he's going to ask for a big contract when he's 31 years old. And Minny also have to pay KAT a max contract after next year. Ball is on a rookie contract for three more years. So that will give the Wolves time to develop and still stay under the luxurytax. So i think they would consider this trade offer.

CP3 is almost 34 years old. He doesn't need the money anymore. He wants a title and he has the same agent as LBJ. And the sponsors will give hime some extra money for playing in LA with LBJ. CP3 wants a title and this team has a window for beating golden state. And there are many good younger pointguards in the league, so his value could go down fast.

The offer for Reddick is a . little low, but he had a big contract last year and the teams don't have the capspace to spent the same next year. LA could try to get W Matthews if Reddick refuses the offer.

16 Feb 2018 16:00:15
I think as time goes by the value Ball has being on an affordable rookie contract deteriorates based on his Dad's circus. On the surface Minny seems like the perfect place away from the bright lights of L. A. for Ball to develop maturity on and off court. Shame his Dad can't do the same. Minny passes.

13 Feb 2018 10:19:57
Kings-Blazers

Kings: C.McCollum

Blazers: 2018 1st round pick, B.Bogdanovic, I.Shumpert

13 Feb 2018 13:29:52
Not bad value wise, but pretty difficult to give up a top 3 pick when you're a rebuilding team still a couple of years away from competing.

13 Feb 2018 14:55:15
I don't see it for the Kings. They aren't competing any time soon and don't have their pick next year. Plus, Hield is a similiar (not nearly as good though) player and they just need to continue their rebuild.

13 Feb 2018 15:40:56
Good deal. Triangle is right about the rebuilding. Commitment to Mcollum money too.

13 Feb 2018 18:24:33
On the flip side, I can’t see Portland doing this either. If they make this trade, they’d have to trade Lillard as well, because they’re basically committing to a full rebuild.

13 Feb 2018 18:34:20
Sacramento also has already traded their 2019 pick to either the Celtics or 76ers.

08 Feb 2018 18:22:59
Done trade

Miami gets Wade

Cleveland gets Hill and Hood

Sacramento gets Joe Johnson and Shumpert

Utah gets Rose and Crowder

08 Feb 2018 18:34:17
All true but separate trades. Cavs got a "heavily protected" 2nd round pick from Miami for Wade.

08 Feb 2018 18:40:57
Yeah the 2nd went to the Kings immediately though so it's essentially a 4 way deal when you lay it out even if the Wade trade was separate.

08 Feb 2018 19:25:37
Utah got ripped off. Big time.

08 Feb 2018 19:39:11
Jorga, apparently, they were really high on Crowder. I'm surprised how little they ended up getting for him. I'm accused of being a Cavs homer and I thought they should have gotten atleast a late 1st as well.

08 Feb 2018 20:06:53
Apparently THEY were high for being high on Crowder. Utah supposedly had 20 teams inquire about Hood and that was the best they could do? Wow.

11 Feb 2018 04:41:27
Crowder is cheap and way better and healthier than Hood. Utah wants to win games next year and Jae is a great complimentary player.

08 Feb 2018 18:14:05
3 team trade

Cavs get - Hood and Hill

Jazz get - Rose and Crowder

Kings get - Johnson and Shumpert

Cavs also trade Wade back to Heat

Hill/Clarkson
Hood/Jr
Lebron/Korver
(Love)/Nance
Thompson/Nance

08 Feb 2018 18:25:03
Posted the same thing before yours listed. I love this one for the Cavs. Losing Wade hurts a little, but Hood and Hill are great additions. The team is definitely a lot younger.

08 Feb 2018 18:35:40
^^^^ LMAO wow rkenne_16 you're good. How many times are you going to say that you posted something first? ESPN had it before you LOL stop acting like your an NBA inside reporter getting first word of these trades SMH.

09 Feb 2018 15:10:57
Kcku, that wasn't what I was trying to imply. I just didn't mean to repost the same thing as NBA16.

08 Feb 2018 17:30:57
Cavs get Hill
Kings get shumpert zizic Calderon Miami 2nd cavs 2nd

Sign bogut

Hill Clarkson rose
Smith wade korver
James crowder osman
Love nance green
Thompson bogut

08 Feb 2018 16:47:27
Kings Receive-Alex Abrines, Josh Huestis, 2022 second round pick

The Kings would save about 2 million dollars in guaranteed money through this trade and receive a second round pick for the future.

Thunder Receive-Garrett Temple, Jakarr Sampson (waive)

Another vet and talented shooting guard wouldn't hurt for the Thunder. Garrett Temple has been respectable this season putting up 8 a game and being a good defender at the same time.

08 Feb 2018 02:38:52
4 team trade

Kings get - Favors(exp), Johnson(waive) and Hood

Celtics get - Evans

Jazz get - Hill and Green

Grizzlies get - Smart and Labissiere

Fox
Bogdanovic/Hield
Hood
Favors
WCS

Irving
Brown/Evans
Tatum
Morris
Horford/Monroe

Hill/Rubio
Mitchell
Ingles
Green
Gobert

Smart(Conley)
McClemore
Brooks
Davis
Gasol/Labissiere

07 Feb 2018 15:36:11
The Cavs get Howard, MGK, and Hill

The Hornets get Thompson, Crowder, Osman, Calderon(waive), Labissiere and the Cavs 2021 1st lottery protected plus they save 8 million dollars this off season

The Kings get Shumpert, Frye, Rose(waive) and the Cavs 18 1st lottery protected

07 Feb 2018 16:09:02
Do you not read any of the reports about the Cavs? Seems like you just live in a fantasy land where you come up with ridiculous trades all day. It's been reported by several media sources including ESPN that Cleveland found no interest in Thompson Schumpert or Smith. So wake up finally and realize what everyone else has known. Cleveland has no trade options, and to get rid of those players they would have to give up the nets pick like I've said all along.

07 Feb 2018 16:45:04
Agree with skills85 if not the tone. Cleveland has very few trade options. LeBron and IT are both gone in July, and the roster is filled with a bunch of guys who are overpaid (thanks to James wanting his buddies around him) . Love has value, but not this year due to the injury. Cavs might be able to get a high second for Crowder, but he's not a starter in this league. They're even stuck with Lue, who cashed in after the title and is signed for three years after this one. Best thing to do is let James and IT walk, pare down salary as much as they can this summer and hope they hit on the Brooklyn pick.

07 Feb 2018 17:01:10
The Shumpert and Frye trade has been on the table and the only thing holding it back is the Cavs want to include Smith instead of Shumpert because of Hill's contract. Apparently you're the one not paying attention. As for the Hornets in this, they save significant money in this and don't take on any extra long term salary. Teams aren't interested in Thompson or Smith, but they would be if they're getting rid of one of their own bad contracts.

From the Kings stand point, they get the salary savings and pick that they want.

For the Hornets, they save significant money the next 2 years, get a pick and 2 decent prospects for players that are signed for multiple years that they don't want and they get players that can offset some of the production they lose.

07 Feb 2018 19:13:00
Howard is not considered a bad contract.
Hill would have to be for a 1st with Smith contract. A second with Shumpert, and CLE wants Hill to agree to a renegotion, which he said he wouldn't, if they trade the first. I'd be surprised if CLE does the deal. Love, James, Crowder, Thomas, Wade, are really all that is valuable. I think the longer the Kings sit on Hill the less likely they do the deal before deadline. Kings have all the leverage, and time they need. They're rebuilding. CLE is in disorder, and panic from a fan standpoint. It's why the same trades are posted on here 10,000 times. Sort of an attempt to speak into existence.

07 Feb 2018 21:08:20
Osman is not a decent prospect, he doesn't even hardly play. Cleveland doesn't know what a prospect is, because James wants nothing but 30+ year old players on his team. Again though you're just to stupid to see that nobody wants Cleveland's garbage. There's no trade on the table for Cleveland. So stopp making crap up. Everyone else that replied agreed with me, so if that isn't a hint for you to go away I don't know what is.

07 Feb 2018 04:43:53
Detroit get Hill, Mason lll

Sacramento get Jackson, Ellenson, 1st

06 Feb 2018 01:25:23
The Cavs get Favors, Johnson, Hood, Hill, Utah's 1st top 5 protected, a 2nd from Chicago and Utah

The Bulls get Jr Smith and the Cavs 2018 1st top 20 protected

The Kings get Frye, Shumpert, Zizic and a Utah 2nd

The Jazz get IT and Love

06 Feb 2018 04:06:47
Still a bad trade for Utah! The Jazz give up. Favors, Hood, Johnson, a 1st, and a 2nd for IT and Love? Thanks rkene_16, Needed a laugh! Oh yeah, I forgot, You're a Cav's fan!

05 Feb 2018 21:33:44
Kings Receive- Isaiah Thomas, Iman Shumpert, Cavs 2018 first

The Kings don't have many bad contracts outside of Koufos and George Hill. Bringing in Shumpert would not be a big blow to their player roll and Isaiah Thomas, who's rumored to sign with a team has the money to afford a maximum deal, could get a fresh start on his former team before he hits the open market. The Kings would also get an advantage in the Isaiah Thomas sweepstakes that is soon to come this summer. Isaiah Thomas and the Cavs are having mutual issues on and off the court. We know that he thrives when he can be the primary scorer and the Kings simply do not have one. The Cav's 2018 also could be valuable depending on how the rest of their season plays out.

Cavs Receive- De'aaron Fox, George Hill

The Cavs would be forced to take on George Hill's contract, but De'arron Fox is a good center piece for the future and they still have the Brooklyn pick. If Lebron leaves, their future will already be set with the assets that they currently have. George Hill will make the Cavs a better unit and improve the offense and defense significantly. This move is good for the Cav's future and for this season as a whole.

05 Feb 2018 22:00:07
No way Cleveland gets Fox for a late first-rounder.

05 Feb 2018 22:43:10
Another "Cavs get too much" trade idea . Gee now that's a first.

05 Feb 2018 22:50:57
Okay the first rounder isn't what the deal is based on. Isaiah Thomas is the main piece of the deal. The Kings already have a plethora of youth and young talent. It's time for them to get some proven players and attempt to get over the hump.

05 Feb 2018 23:17:08
There won’t be much of a “sweepstakes” for IT. He really looks like he’s not the same. I’d take Fox over Thomas right now straight up. Hill is also worth a ton more than Shumpert.

You’d have to change this to the Nets pick to even come close.

05 Feb 2018 17:26:14
Cavs get Bazemore dedmon
Hawks get Smith osman zizic cavs 1st

Cavs get Hill
Kings get shumpert Frye rose

Sign bogut

Thomas hill Calderon
Bazemore wade
James korver
Love crowder green
Thompson dedmon bogut

05 Feb 2018 18:27:34
Cavs have to give assets to SAC or no deal. Smith, and the late 1st can't land Bazemore and Dedmon.

05 Feb 2018 10:53:26
Thunder - Kings

Thunder - Randolph

Kings - Patterson, Singler, 1st rd pick

05 Feb 2018 14:58:50
I don't know that I'd give up a 1st for Randolph. Kings will move him I think. Probably in the summer when he's on an expiring deal.

05 Feb 2018 10:48:56
Kings - Memphis - Cleveland

Kings - Love (something to build around with Fox and other youngsters), Shumpert

Fox
Hield
Shumpert
Love
Wcs

Memphis - Thompson, Nets pick (Cavs), Osman, Frye (exp)
- build around young guys and picks, they are going nowhere, send Conley somewhere in the summer

Cleveland - Gasol, Randolph, Hill
- Randolph-Gasol worked well together with Memphis, a part of a monster defensive team so they could help Cavs deficiency

Thomas-Rose
Hill-Wade-Smith
James-Crowder-Korver
Randolph-Green
Gasol-Zizic

05 Feb 2018 12:19:18
Why would the Cavs give up Love in this? They could get Hill for a few 2nd round picks, but instead they give up an allstar?

05 Feb 2018 15:04:50
MEM is fine. They will get a good draft pick. Only bad contract is Parsons. Probably land a 1st for Evans.

04 Feb 2018 22:07:38
Thunder-Kings


Thunder get Garrett Temple
-Sign Andrew Bogut and a backup guard


Kings get Alex Abrines, Kyle Singler, and Boston 2018 2nd.

05 Feb 2018 02:43:58
Solid trade.

04 Feb 2018 17:15:05
Cavs trades to blow the roster up

1.
Cavs get - Hill, Murray and Chandler

Kings get - Frye Shumpert and Cavs 2nd

Nuggets get - Thomas(s&t) and Crowder

2.
Cavs get - Jordan

Hornets get - Bkl 1st, Jr Smith, and Korver

Hill/Rose
Murray/Wade
Lebron/Green
(Love)Chandler
Jordan/Thompson

04 Feb 2018 18:40:56
u mean LA in the second deal or is MJ coming to cleveland to play center?

04 Feb 2018 01:54:25
Cavs get Muhammad
Wolves get zizic Miami 2nd

Cavs get Hill
Kings get shumpert osman 2 2nd round picks

Cavs get vucevic
Magic get Thomas

Cavs sign tony Allen and bogut

Hill rose Calderon
Smith wade Muhammad
James korver green
Love crowder Frye
Vucevic Thompson bogut

04 Feb 2018 03:45:52
No way that happens. Cavs tax bill would be higher than Monta Ellis is at any given point.

02 Feb 2018 10:05:48
NY: G Hill

Sac: J Noah+ 2rnd pick 2018 and 2020

02 Feb 2018 13:49:00
George is so much better a player than Noah that it's going to take more than a couple of 2nd's to do this deal. If Noah had one less year on his deal, and you threw is a young asset like Dotson, then maybe. That said, there is no financial benefit at all to the Kings, so they'll want a first to take on Jo's deal.

01 Feb 2018 17:20:31
Cavs get Hill
Kings get shumpert Frye zizic

Cavs get Leonard
Spurs get love thomas Brooklyn 1st cavs 1st

Sign bogut and Noah (if waived or bought out)

Hill rose Calderon
Smith wade
Leonard korver osman
James crowder green
Thompson Noah bogut

01 Feb 2018 18:16:37
Hill to Kings looks dead. K. Leonard is worth more, and isn't being traded anyway. Not this season, or before the deadline.

01 Feb 2018 22:16:28
Hill to CLE.

02 Feb 2018 05:22:53
Utter nonsense no chance to ever happen. You trade away nearly all the few remaining frontcourt players what next 5-guard lineups? Buyout noah washed up for many years now.

 
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