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15 Apr 2019 01:02:02
Crazy scenario for Boston.

Imagine Boston gets the #2 pick vua Sacramento. This jump in the lottery make the Grizzlies pick convey this year as well.

With their 4 picks, Boston drafts Ja Morant, Bol Bol, Edwards from Purdue and Williams from Tennessee.

Let Irving walk this year and Horford next year. Resign Rozier at the same number as Smart. Tell New Orleans to pound sand about trading for AD.

15 Apr 2019 10:09:10
Yup, that's crazy. Problem is, Ainge isn't crazy. He's pretty damned smart and he wants AD. He will probably get AD.
The other issue I have with this, is they are a championship driven team. They could or would not have 4 rookies on that team. If they were a lottery team, I might see This, but they are not.
Why would they rebuild now, when they could be close to winning #18?

15 Apr 2019 15:01:05
I don't think Ainge would draft Bol, unless it was too good to pass up. Proven players are still worth more than draft picks. ZW is garnering hype, and maybe he is the next James, but that's at least a few seasons away, AD is gift wrapped, ready to go.

15 Apr 2019 15:02:09
it wouldn't be so much a rebuild as a retool, and I've thought about this as well. I like AD a lot, but it really depends on how much they want for him and if they think he will actually stick around.

Either way, the trade for AD and the decision on Kyrie can't happen until after the draft, and I really doubt that NO would want anyone other than Morant at #2, so you have time to think. Ja could easily be the best player to come out of this draft, and with him already in tow, they have a lot of bargaining power on what else goes to NO. If Griffin is stubborn on wanting too much, DA should feel comfortable moving forward.

The ideal would be if Memphis' pick wound up at 4. That would give them someone worthwhile, but probably not an immediate impact like the top two or three guys should have. I don't think I would take Bol at 9 anyway. I'm looking at him with that Clippers pick being a good gamble, but 9 is a bit too high for my taste.

15 Apr 2019 15:03:13
Many reasons why JoeB, including that they do not look like a serious Championship contender right now, don’t have any control whether Kyrie comes back or not, and understand that with no Kyrie, AD is unlikely to re-sign there after next season.

I will give Ainge something, he is smart. If he goes into this offseason with the feeling that Kyrie could walk, and can’t close an AD deal that possibly will convince Irving to stay, I could see a mini reset.

15 Apr 2019 18:24:05
The best part is that they have the assets to keep retooling as is. They've actually played very well when Kyrie sits, despite him being their most talented player. That could just be an anomaly, but it does go to show the talent on the rest of the roster. If they have the opportunity to bring in a Morant, they might see that as being just as good, and then they don't have to deal with the Kyrie headaches that seem to follow him around.

Even if they don't bring in that top pick, they might decide they feel fine moving forward with Rozier and paying the man. Either way, Kyrie/ AD or the rest of the young pieces they currently have, they should have a pretty lengthy championship window. It'll be very interesting to see what direction Danny goes.

15 Apr 2019 19:37:56
I was also thinking a "retooled" Celtics roster will still be competitve against a Raptors team minus Kwahi, a 76ers team minus one of their FAs and a limited Embiid, and a Milwaukee team that has its own FAs to resign and limited financial market.

15 Apr 2019 21:18:13
Bledsoe opted for the most friendly contract possible. The Bucks are sitting pretty going into next season. Even if they lose 2 players they would like to keep.

13 Apr 2019 19:51:12
Coaching change hires

Cavs-Jordi Fernandez
Lakers-Monty Williams
Kings-David Vanterpool
Grizzlies-Nate Tibbetts

13 Apr 2019 21:38:31
Nope. Kings going with Luke Walton.

14 Apr 2019 04:31:31
Lakers-M. Williams, L. Hollins, if they hire Lue they are a joke.
Cavs-Vanterpool, cavs are not strangers to blazer personnel
Kings-Walton (already decided)
Grizzlies-SVG, Messina, Blatt, Vogel, all are solid steady-eddie type coaches. Hard to go wrong.

15 Apr 2019 13:16:26
The Lakers are a joke, but that's no different than an other team LeBron has been on. He wants to be the coach, and rarely cares what anyone on the sideline wearing a suit has to say. They all allow him to dictate decisions, even Riley to an extent. Spoelstra turned out to be a good choice, but you really only saw that after James went back to Cleveland.

That said, I'm really hoping that Walton gets those kids in Sacramento playing even better than this year. I would love to see that become a rivalry again and get a playoff matchup.

15 Apr 2019 19:46:05
Is it the Lakers are a dumpster fire?

Is it the Kings are becoming somewhat relevant after years in the toilet?

Or is it a combination of both?

12 Apr 2019 03:50:18
Orlando long-term salary sump?

Orlando trades A. Gordon + 2019 1st rounder

Sacramento trades H. Barnes.

14 Apr 2019 01:34:25
Why would the Kings do this?

They have a backlog of bigs with Bagley III and Giles needing more minutes. Adding Gordon to the mix would only stunt their growth and his contract would make resigning their players who are still on their rookie contracts that much more difficult.

10 Apr 2019 20:34:56
Kings
Prince
Plumlee
Bazemore

Hawks
Barnes

Fredman-This is fair if you don't want to pay a 1st for Prince

11 Apr 2019 00:57:00
I am sooooooooo down with this. Based on last years trades a 1st rounder is worth around $18 mil in expiring salaries. ATL salary is $36 mil. Subtract Barnes $25 mil salary means the Kings are taking on $11 mil versus using a 1st rounder ($18+ mil value) .

Plus I think the Kings actually got worse since Barnes was added to the roster at the trade deadline.

So I would do this deal after most of the FAs have signed just on case the Kings need that cap space to sign players.

11 Apr 2019 07:20:21
ATL could use the roster spots, they want to keep their picks, and move on from Bazemore/ Plumlee, and reportedly Prince too. This is definitely targeting how much they value gaining flexibility. If they flipped Barnes at the deadline for a second, or 2 this works well for the Hawks because they would have to pay to offload plumlee/ bazemore. 2 - 1sts probably.

11 Apr 2019 14:15:40
Yea, and the Kings would be doing the same flipping of Plumlee and Bazemore looking for a second rounder for each.

11 Apr 2019 15:21:42
This is where I disagree. Bazemore to an injured, playoff team might return a 2nd. Plumlee never in a million years. He's either China, Euro, Australian ball if he plays again.

12 Apr 2019 01:55:45
I think you are sort of missing the bad contracts the Kings and ATL will have to take on as part of flipping these players.

12 Apr 2019 05:42:19
I don't think I'm missing anything. G. Hill, J. Parker, O, Porter. So what if you take on another expiring contract, if you get draft compensation, and you don't need the player because you're not in the playoffs, and they don't figure into your long term plans? Why not if it costs the same or close?

12 Apr 2019 11:12:41
Flipping Plumlee for a second rounds is NOT about Plumlee's ability. It is anout the bad, long term contract that the Kings would have to take back.

12 Apr 2019 13:37:21
AGAIN, read the examples I even left of no long term salary in return. I didn't say it was likely, or going to happen, but a possibility with Barnes. Kick Rocks argument man, you're just too ignorant to communicate with.

10 Apr 2019 18:12:18
Think i will try Fredman's plug any team into an Anthony Davis trade then sign Durant

Pels win Lottery, draft Zion

Pels trade AD and Hill to Celtics for Tatum,Brown,Horford, 2019 1sts from LAC Sacramento and Bos

Pels trade Randle,Moore,Diallo Miller 2019 1st Sac and 2021 1st to Wizards for Beal

Pels sign Durant

Draft Cameron Johnson Darius Garland

PG Holiday Jackson
SG Beal Brown
SF Tatum, Johnson
PF Durant Zion
C Horford Okafor


Ok Haters, dive in !! LOL

10 Apr 2019 21:21:17
I’m just not sure why gms haven’t figured out that they just need to draft Zion and sign Durant.

11 Apr 2019 00:43:31
No way the Celtics pay that much for Davis. That said, Davis will be in Boston. ;)

10 Apr 2019 12:55:00
Boston- Brown,Smart,Hayward,kings pick

Washington- Beal,Mahinmi


More picks?

10 Apr 2019 15:58:07
Boston would not make that deal unless Anthony Davis is on the roster first. If Irving goes back on his word and leaves for NY, the Celtics will be back in scrappy mode, and will need Brown, Smart and Hayward going forward. Only Davis could change that narrative.

11 Apr 2019 14:56:53
Your not getting anthony Davis with that package.

13 Apr 2019 01:27:26
Absolutely agree Supercollider.
Not sure why nobody else understands that Boston won't be doing anything until the AD business is addressed, one way or the other.

13 Apr 2019 01:39:37
Shizzee. who said they were getting AD for "that package "?
Apparently, you didn't really read the post. Lmao.

09 Apr 2019 23:24:07
Celtics- pick 2
Suns- pick 12 (Kings), pick 15 (Clippers), 2020 Celtics pick

Celtics- Karl Anthony Towns
T Wolves- Brown, Yabusele, Ojeleye, pick 24 (Celtics), Grizzlies 2020 pick

Celtics- Beal
Wizards- Hayward, Jackson, Brunson, Robert Williams, 2020 mavericks or rockets second rounder, 2021 Celtics second rounder, 2021 Mavericks second rounder
Marvericks- Horford

Celtics Draft Morant, sign Julius Randle, Terry Rozier,

Celtics lineup
Morant/ Rozier
Beal
Tatum
Randle
KAT

10 Apr 2019 01:33:44
Suns say no, not a deep enough draft to give up a dynamic player like Morant for mid-round picks.

Wolves laugh at that offer.

10 Apr 2019 01:49:10
There is no way Phoenix trades #2 for that package with Ja Morant still on the board.

10 Apr 2019 05:20:18
Not enough for kat.

10 Apr 2019 09:21:18
is this a joke?

10 Apr 2019 12:32:22
Another wonder bread Celtic fan idea 🤣🤣🤣.

10 Apr 2019 15:50:48
You get two all stars and the #2 overall pick, and don’t give up your most valuable asset? Nope, not happening.

None of the trades are incredibly close to fair. But the Beal one seems worst.

10 Apr 2019 17:32:30
I'm a die hard Celtics fan for 50 years, and I can't stop laughing.

The funniest thing for me is, that people are making these proposals that have draft picks like they know where the pick is slotted, which obviously we won't know until June.

09 Apr 2019 20:29:06
Kings get - Prince

Hawks get - Wcs (s&t)

Hawks draft Hunter and Culver

Fox
Hield
Prince
Barnes
Bagley

Young
Huerter/Culver
Hunter
Collins
Wcs

09 Apr 2019 20:45:51
SAC needs to throw a 1st. That deal has to be a 3 year to qualify for a S&T. Dedmon, and Len are already better players too. ATL needs some kind of a bribe.

09 Apr 2019 22:06:52
Dedmon is free agent and lender thrives as back up.

09 Apr 2019 22:13:30
I can’t see Culver or Hunter being available with the Dallas pick.

09 Apr 2019 07:12:25
SAC/IND/MEM

SAC get Myles Turner

Pg Fox
Sg Hield/Bogdanovic
Sf Barnes
Pf Bagley
Ce Turner

IND get Mike Conley

Pg Conley
Sg Oladipo
Sf Bogdanovic
Pf Young
Ce Sabonis

MEM get Corey Joseph, Nemanja Bjelica, 1st round pick IND, 1st round pick SAC

Money doesn't have to match since Kings Have the space

09 Apr 2019 12:23:26
Why would we give up Turner and a first round pick for an aging Conley, with a big contract?

09 Apr 2019 13:10:38
Kind of agree with Gasupo. Indy doesn't need a ball handling PG because Oladipo. Need more of a shooter type (Carson Edwards? ) . Not saying Conley is not a shooter, but there are cheaper contracts options out there.

09 Apr 2019 17:36:15
Indy, Griz are helping the Kings more than is reasonable. They are making out like bandits in this.

06 Apr 2019 01:36:29
SAC/DET/ATL

SAC get Drummond & Prince

Pg Fox
Sg Hield
Sf Prince
Pf Bjelica/Bagley
Ce Drummond

DET get Barnes & Len

Pg Jackson
Sg Kennard
Sf Barnes
Pf Griffin
Ce Len

ATL get SAC 2 2nds, Swanigan, Mykhailiuk

06 Apr 2019 14:15:58
Not sure why Atlanta would move Prince who could replace Bazemore after next season (unless the Hawks are drafting Bazemore's replacement this year) as well as trading Len leaves a big whole in the middle with Dedmon's Free Agency.

06 Apr 2019 16:17:41
I’m not sure I see Sac’s interest with the young bigs they have already that should be ready to step up next year.

05 Apr 2019 01:26:54
Cavs plans

Draft zion number one.
Trade trade love and get Heyward plus sac pick.
Cavs will get another good pick in 2020 plus gives zion a year to play with sexton.
In 2021 cavs get another good pick and have lots of cap and young talented players. They make trades happen and sign lbj to finish career in cleveland while competing for.championship

05 Apr 2019 06:06:50
LEbron will more than likely retire in LA.

05 Apr 2019 15:00:40
Lebron is done with the Cavaliers. He owes them nothing and will never play there again. Especially with the bad blood between him and the owner.

05 Apr 2019 16:32:08
James left

He left first time to play with wade and bosh. Better opportunity to win.

He left miami to come back to play with Irving and knew they could trade for another star. Better chance to win

He left Cleveland for lakers lots of trade pieces for a star and cap for another. Can lead to better chance to win.

Each time he left was for better opportunity to win. He can leave Lakers for Cavs if he see better chance to win In Cleveland.

05 Apr 2019 20:28:09
What’s the difference between playing for a young Lakers team and leaving for another team with young players? LA can bring in big free agents where Cleveland has no chance at them.

05 Apr 2019 20:59:42
how many big free agents has LA gotten that Cleveland hasn’t in the last 10 years?

06 Apr 2019 04:36:43
Love isn't getting you a better player and a pick.

06 Apr 2019 07:16:31
Love been playing better then Heyward. Plus Boston need love more they have brown tatum smart to rotate 2 and 3 positions.

07 Apr 2019 03:02:17
Shiller, how do you believe that Hayward is better than Love? Even at his best he was Love quality, and at this level I would rather have Love.

02 Apr 2019 18:58:33
Celtics
AD
Bazemore
Prince

Pelicans
Tatum
Brown
Smart
MEM or SAC 1st whichever is better, if MEM conveys this season
Clips 1st
'20 BOS 2nd


Hawks
Hayward
R.Williams
BOS 1st


*Celtics re-sign:
Irving
Morris
Rozier

02 Apr 2019 20:03:43
ATL says no.

02 Apr 2019 20:35:52
Celtics have little use for Bazemore or Prince, and they are not going to give up 8 assets for Davis.
Here's the price for Davis:
1. Top-flight starter
2. Another starter
3. Another rotation player
4. First-rounder.

02 Apr 2019 21:55:21
If they give up Tatum, Brown, and Hayward, they have a huge use for Prince and Bazemore.

02 Apr 2019 22:53:08
No way the Celtics give up that much.

06 Apr 2019 21:37:38
Supercollider-The Kyrie Irving deal?

I. Thomas - Tatum
Crowder - Smart
Zizic - Clips 1st already drafted, for NOP

BRK 1st - '20 or '21 MEM pick if not already conveyed, otherwise if it hits for BOS this year a choice between SAC, MEM already drafted for the Pels. Its a blessing for NOP that Ainge and Co. handle the drafting, and aren't going to draft poorly in case things go south with AD deal

Is this about right?

May have to throw Brown in too to make salaries work instead of a pick.

06 Apr 2019 22:33:01
Well SuperCollider, I'm glad you don't set the AD market then

TF Starter Tatum
Starter Rozier
Rotation Brown



Two 1sts 2019 Gets you AD.

06 Apr 2019 21:54:27
Supercollider-
the Kyrie Irving deal:

I. Thomas
J. Crowder
Zizic
C. Sexton

Your AD deal:

Tatum
Smart
R. Williams
Picked MEM or not, or picked SAC

This meets the criteria you laid out, and salary trade rules requirements.

Is this the deal you think Ainge will make? I still think they need to trade Brown, or Hayward too if they take on AD, to make players happier, and win like the roster says it should. Hayward is going to require at least an asset to move. Hayward, Irving, Horford, AD is going to be awfully expensive, I'd shed his deal unless he surprises in the playoffs.

06 Apr 2019 21:52:36
Wait supercollider. Did you just label Hayward as an asset? As in trying to argue he is of positive value? Amazing.

31 Mar 2019 22:41:21
Sac: S&T Willie Cauley Stein (3yr/ $35 mil)

Miami: Whiteide + 2019 1st rounder.

Saves Miami over $30 mil in luxury tax for next year.

01 Apr 2019 03:31:09
If you were lucky to have the Heat bite on salary savings this could happen without the pick

Kanter is a better player than WCS. I wouldn't pay Kanter 8M, or more than anyway. Why would the Heat want WCS when they have Olynyk, and Adebayo?

01 Apr 2019 12:52:50
I take defense over offense at center any day of week. Kanter misses post scoring opportunities consistently.

01 Apr 2019 14:30:20
Shizzee are saying WCS is a defender, or better at defense than Kanter? Use your words!

01 Apr 2019 15:11:59
Would say Kanter and WCS are on the same talent level. However, with the Nurkic injury, I don't think the Blazers are going to let Kanter go without offering a one-year deal in the $12 mil range.

01 Apr 2019 15:49:34
I highly doubt it, the blazers, or anyone else. Kanter is junk.

01 Apr 2019 17:05:34
Kanter is a great backup center or a disappointing starting center. Definitely not junk, just not a starter.

Portland can’t offer Kanter anything above MLE. They’re over the cap and don’t have any bird rights. Same with Hood and Curry. I think they’ll let Kanter walk and try to hold onto the other two.

Hopefully Collins takes a step forward this offseason and he can start at center to start next season until nurkic comes back. That has to be Portland’s plan. Then have Leonard back him up. The biggest problem would be if Aminu leaves and they can’t fill the hole at PF. Do you go small and start two of Layman/ Harkless/ Hood? Do you dare play Leonard and Collins together in the starting lineup?

01 Apr 2019 18:29:47
Bmiller, draft a Grant Williams, PJ Washington or Jontay Porter in thr 1st round?

Try to purchase the Kings second 2nd roubder to dradt Tillie?

01 Apr 2019 19:23:38
I don't like anything about Kanters game other than he is good for the blazers now as a substitute. All other options are better for future plans. Blazers don't have a full MLE, they signed Trent using it, and also Seth Curry. Kanter, M. Leonard is a wash. One plays post, one plays perimeter, both stink on defense. At least Leonard has some freakish size/ athleticism going for him.

01 Apr 2019 21:21:07
Kanter has one elite thing (rebounding) going for him. Most great bench players are one trick ponies, but elite at that one thing.

Yeah, I never really wanted Kanter in Portland. His defense isn’t just bad, it’s statistically the worst in the NBA of any center of the last few years (maybe second behind okafor) .

I think Collins is by far the best option starting center moving forward without Nurkic. He’s got the raw skills of a top tier defender, and has a lot of offensive moves that make me feel like he can be great if he figures it all out. Might as well give him all the minutes at the start of next year and those him into the deep end.

02 Apr 2019 02:08:26
Kanter can rebound.

29 Mar 2019 17:52:27
Celtics
S&T Durant to a 3-year, 3rd player option

GSW
Hayward, SAC 1st

If Bill Simmons is right about Durant, then Durant is available, and this would help the Warriors long term, and replace Durant, with a cheaper, temporary option. Hayward would do well playing D, and spotting up for 3 in SanFran. I think

29 Mar 2019 21:10:40
Hayward isn't cheap for his production.

29 Mar 2019 21:41:20
Cheaper than Durant.

30 Mar 2019 01:24:50
Dollar wise, but no comparison in talent. Hayward’s contract is not looking good right now, almost wonder if the Warriors would want to make a deal for that contract and go deeper into the luxury tax or not.

31 Mar 2019 05:34:32
Funny, I was looking at Hayward + Kings draft pick for Harrison Barnes. that way Barnes and Horford both come off the books after next season.

31 Mar 2019 06:05:13
GSW would never facilitate a trade to the celtics. This was for fun. Barnes for Hayward, SAC 1st- Divac would be all over that. Hayward has nothing but upside, unless he's permanently hobbled, but I don't think he is. He's had bright spots this season, and I think a physically diligent rehab in the off season could do a lot for him come next season.

31 Mar 2019 14:39:34
Has nothing but upside? You make it sound like he’s a young player continuing to improve. He’s 29 with nine years under his belt. I don’t know that what we’re seeing is an aberration, this could be the new norm from a guy who is not young and is trying to return from that horrific injury. He does have 68 games under his belt this year, and has not shown consistent growth back to the player he was, or even close this season. 68 games is a long enough time to get a feel for where he’s at and where he may go.

31 Mar 2019 15:16:14
Jorgewood, loves to Durant anywhere but in a Knicks uniform. 😉.

31 Mar 2019 15:17:00
Mathews didn't hardly show any explosiveness early on in his return, but has slowly gained it back. Hayward has already looked more explosive at times than Mathews this season. Different injuries, but ligaments, and tendons don't get a lot of blood supply, and healing takes a bit. Mathews was older, and possibly a worse injury.

31 Mar 2019 16:14:30
Durant to NY is so far fetched. Other than a media personality proposing it, where are the bought houses, the family moving to NY? Durant doesn't go anywhere without his mama. Dolan is hated, and the Warriors can offer him the most money. That is more than enough for me to doubt Durant to NY. Quit acting like a child shizzee, and accept the fact that some people don't lie all the time, and therefore don't believe them either. That isn't hating on your knicks, although because of you, and I think you actually care, I hope they lose even more next season. That'd be great right!

06 Apr 2019 21:56:05
I've heard a bunch of Durant to BOS for Hayward and a pick. I don't know that Golden State would want to move him to a team that could really contend with them in that case, but I don't know what other offers are really out there for opt in and trade purposes. Everyone would love to have him, but not many are in the position to have assets to move for him without seriously diminishing their total team. I'm still a Hayward believer, and I would hate to see him moved, but I think he might fit the pecking order better in Golden State, and I wouldn't want to turn down a chance at Durant. They'd still have assets for an AD push too.

25 Mar 2019 19:23:52
If the Kings pick jumps up to the #2 overall, I think I would rather the Celtics draft Morant than keep Irving. The team seems to play much better without him, and his media comments just kind of drive me crazy. I think Morant, with his scoring ability but passing attitude, would fit the style of play better as well. In this situation I would draft Morant at 2, Bol at 19 and another big at 22. The way he's been playing I don't think Clarke makes it that far, but a guy like Fernando, Porter or maybe even Hayes might be there.

I'd resign Baynes to a $5 mil-ish deal, and try to see if Horford would be willing to take less...somewhere around $20 mil. If he's willing to do that, then the Celtics would have right around $9 mil to bring in another guard...I'd shoot for Beverly, but there's a few guys out there that would be quality additions.

This would leave you with

PG Smart, Morant, Beverly?
SG Brown, Hayward
SF Tatum, Ojeleye
PF Horford, Clarke?, Yabusele
C Baynes, Williams, Bol

That's a lot of young pieces in Smart, Morant, Brown, Tatum, Clarke, Williams and Bol to work with. It's a team that can compete now, and has enough veterans to help the kids learn with a TON of potential for growth.

25 Mar 2019 23:48:01
Wouldn't worry about that, I'd the pick ends up #2, it will be on the way to New Orleans in a deal for Davis.
I think the pick will be in the deal anyway, but the higher it gets, it lessons what else is in the deal.

26 Mar 2019 02:54:54
Garland is realistic, not morant.

28 Mar 2019 11:24:11
Do not think it is feasible. Since Mavs get the lucky #2 pick. : )

29 Mar 2019 00:31:22
Drainer- don't you mean hawks.

23 Mar 2019 19:45:10
SPURS/ Dragic, Barnes, Hield
KINGS/ Derozan, Olynyk
HEAT/ Mills, Bertans, Murray, Bjelica, TOR 1st

24 Mar 2019 00:31:12
It gives the Heat needed shooting, but the quality of player return stinks for them. Make it a Spurs 1st instead of the Toronto pick.

24 Mar 2019 00:50:49
Derozen + Olynyk for Hield + Barnes + Bjelica? Ummm, no!

18 Mar 2019 17:11:55
Celtics get Davis,moore,Pels 2020 1st

Wizards get Smart,Brown

Pels get Tatum,Beal, 2019 1st Sac pick

18 Mar 2019 17:29:28
Maybe, but only if Davis agrees to a long-term deal. No John Hancock, no trade. If he walks in 2020, Celtics would have nothing left.

18 Mar 2019 17:48:47
I should have noted that, pending Davis agrees to re-sign.

18 Mar 2019 18:04:00
Beal>>>Brown+Smart. Probably need to add a couple of 1sts.

19 Mar 2019 00:24:56
Yes to Davis trade only if he leaves.

19 Mar 2019 02:26:49
How does anyone disagree with Fredman here? Beal is much better than a Brown/ Smart package.

19 Mar 2019 12:52:07
Triangle, a few Celtics fans overvaluing their own players. Just like Lakers fans overvaluing Ball and Ingram.

19 Mar 2019 13:09:03
A few C’s fans overvalue their players? I think it’s most of them.

Enjoy not having a home playoff series and bowing out in the second round Shamrocks.

18 Mar 2019 03:14:28
SAC - MEM

Sacramento sends: Bogdanovic, Giles, multiple 2nd rounders

Memphis sends: Jackson, Parsons

SAC depth:

Fox / Ferrell
Hield
Barnes / Parsons
Bagley / Bjelica
Jackson / Swanigan

That puts SAC at about $89mil ($20mil under 2019-2020 cap) or $64mil ($45mil under 2019-2020 cap) if Barnes opts out. Cauley-Stein probably isn't re-signed in this scenario.

MEM depth:

Conley / Carter
Bradley / Bogdanovic
Brooks / Miles / Caboclo
Giles / Anderson
Valanciunas / Rabb

That gets Memphis to about $97mil ($12mil under 2019-2020 cap) or $86mil ($23mil under 2019-2020 cap) without Bradley. The #6-ish pick in the 2019 draft would add $5mil or so, but could also return an established starter. Keeping Wright (RFA) would further reduce cap space.

Does Bogdanovic + Giles + absorbing $21mil (for next season only) get the Kings close enough for Jackson? Would Miles' contract need to be absorbed as well? Jackson would be ideal for the Kings - adding rim protection / starting more fast breaks and hitting 3's as a trailer in transition.

Memphis should probably trade Conley and go full rebuild, but their last couple moves don't really show that intent. Conley / Bogdanovic / Bradley would be a solid backcourt rotation, and Giles has shown great potential. They would really have to be targeting certain players (FA or trade) who fit their slower pace / success with veteran players.

18 Mar 2019 04:17:48
I don't think either team bites at this.

Memphis may have enough cap space to eat Parsons expiring deal (trade deadline asset? ) depending on how the options on Valancunis, Bradley and Miles play out. Plus, I would build around Jackson and the wing Memphis will draft this year. Lose your pick next year, but have enough cap space to take on salary for picks to fill the void.

Kings, on the other hand, love both BB8 and Giles and are quickly becoming fan favorites. Although Jackson would be an upgrade, I think the Kings lose too much in depth. Would rather see what the Kings can do in FA with their $20 mil (Vucevic? ) cap space and fun, winning atmosphere.

18 Mar 2019 04:45:55
I believe Kings would definitely agree. Jackson fits great w Bagley since he’s a great defender and can stretch the floor. They can use the cap space to fill out the bench.

18 Mar 2019 05:01:26
Maybe Memphis only does this trade if they win their way out of their 2019 pick (top 8 protected)? They're definitely in danger of that, since Dallas should be motivated to lose.

I think Miles is a lock to pick up his option, but if Valanciunas opts out, Memphis could waive Bradley (guaranteed $2mil out of $13mil next year) and have $20mil in cap space without doing the above trade.

If they lose their pick this year AND Valanciunas opts in, they'd already be just under the cap, so they may as well keep Bradley.

18 Mar 2019 18:15:18
Nba16, I agree that Jackson would be a great fit on the Kings. I just don't agree with the price that has to be paid to get him. Is Jackson so much better than Giles that it is worth giving up the team's 6th man (Bogdanovich) and all the team's available cap space? Especially, since the team's style of play is based all upon roster depth.

18 Mar 2019 18:37:25
Bagley/ Jackson. I don't get it. Both play the same position, and wouldn't likely see a lot of time on the floor together. Huge underpay for Jackson too in the trade.

18 Mar 2019 20:45:36
Bagley and Jackson can play either PF or C. I believe Bagley fits better in today’s nba at the 5.

19 Mar 2019 00:07:09
I was confused about your first response NBA16, thanks for clearing that up. And thank you for the position education about Bagley/ Jackson. Just looking out for me, how nice of you!

13 Mar 2019 20:04:10
Celtics get AD,Moore

Pacers get Brown,Smart,2020 Pels 1st

Pelicans get Tatum,Sabonis, 2019 ist from Sac and 2019 1st from LAC

13 Mar 2019 21:22:06
Celtics aren't going to give that much for Davis -- especially with Morris and Rozier headed out the door.
Tatum, Smart and a No. 1 is about it. Or Brown, Smart and two No. 1s.

13 Mar 2019 21:48:16
Celtics players are over rated, don't trade celtics players, bc nobody value them like you supercollider.

13 Mar 2019 22:47:28
Brown, Tatum and smart are playoff proven. Celts have 3 firsts. Other than Denver I don't see a young roster close to them. Lakers are young but injured or no defense.

13 Mar 2019 22:57:33
SuperCollider. I disagree. And if Celts don't make deep playoff run i almost guarantee it.

14 Mar 2019 00:58:46
Pacers get Brown, Smart and a 1st for Sabonis? Why would Pelicans give up all that for Sabonis?

14 Mar 2019 05:05:27
Shiller I see Nets young core right there with Celtics. Dlo Levert Allen Musa Kurcus RHJ.

14 Mar 2019 08:09:26
I like this trade for Indy.

Sabonis is good, but Brown, smart and a pick is a good return.

14 Mar 2019 09:14:59
Way 5oo much for Sabonis, at least from the Celtics.

14 Mar 2019 11:24:10
Still don't why Celtics want to trade for someone who doesn't want to be there. Buts it's a fair trade.

14 Mar 2019 11:41:25
Oh yeah Joe B, knicks offer with zion destroy that offer.

Zion DSJ Knox Ntilikina Trier Dotson Thomas ( 1 mil guarenteed cut) 4 1st for Davis.

Sign DeAndre Jordan 5 yr. MLE
6 vet minimum players including, 2 pickups 52nd pick

Irving
Dotson
Durant
Davis
Robinson/ Jordan.

14 Mar 2019 15:01:03
The answer is obviously between these two rival homers. Tatum is clearly a great player. Brown and Smart are two very good role players. Everyone values Tatum incredibly high, he has Paul George potential.

Brown, Tatum, Smart, and two firsts sounds like a fair deal for AD. Especially if you are including Moore, someone similar to Brown in on court quality (but slightly less valuable due to age and contracts) .

This can't work due to contracts right? Horford or Hayward would have to be included to make money work.

14 Mar 2019 15:03:58
Don't understand why you trade for AD if you are getting Williamson, if they have the first pick.
If he's as good as they say, the Knicks could draft him and maybe sign a FA or two and build around him. Why trade all your ammo for AD when you aren't in position to win a title?
The Celtics are in a win the title mode right now. Makes more sense for them, than it does for the Knicks.

14 Mar 2019 15:20:57
Didn't Dolan just give an interview about the fan incident and say that P. Jackson was fired because Nkilitina is obviously not working out? I was surprised to see an owner say that about a player, and former GM.

13 Mar 2019 15:32:16
Boston: LBJ

LA: C Parsons+ 1rnd pick Memphis 2020 (top 2 protected)+ 1rnd pick Clippers+ 1rnd pick Kings


Boston
C:R Williams/Baynes
Pf: horford/Theis
SF:LBJ/J brown
SG:Tatum/smart
PG:Irving/T Rozier


LA:
Draft: D Hunter and Bol Bol
C:Bol Bol
PF:Kuzma
Sf:Ingram
SG:Hart
Pg:Ball
Sixth: Hunter
This gives LA a strong young core and two or three picks in the 2020 draft. And they still have the cap to sign two big free agents in 2020

Memphis
C:Valanciunas
PF:Jackson
SF: Hayward
SG:Bradley
PG:Conley

13 Mar 2019 17:06:43
Trading James after one season is a bad look for the Lakers with future players.

13 Mar 2019 17:20:55
Hope celtics don't do that.

13 Mar 2019 21:30:05
Comme on, boston gets Lbj without giving up tatum or j brown. that's a no brainer.

LA trades james to a contender, that's nit a bad look for future free agents.

13 Mar 2019 22:48:35
Lebron ain't worth 3 firsts today.

14 Mar 2019 09:16:37
How 8s Parsons In the deal? He doesn't play for Boston?

14 Mar 2019 13:56:36
* Memphis: Hayward

for C Parsons and they lower the protection on the pick (protection 1-6 in 2020 unprotected in 2021 to top 2 protected in 2020)

14 Mar 2019 15:40:34
Hayward has another year, Griz would want their pick returned. They would be eating an entire year of Hayward at 35 million.

 
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