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15 Dec 2018 23:23:07
Shumpert McLemore Koufos Randolph 2 2nd
For
Thomas Lee Hardaway Kornet 2019 1st

Kings improve their playoff chances and secure a lotto pick. Take on 30 mil guarenteed 2019-20 and 18 mil in 2020-2021.

Fox/Mason/Ferrell
Hardaway/Field/Lee
Jackson/Bogdanovic/T.Williams
Bjelica/Labissierre/Thomas
Bagley/Stein/Giles

Knicks loose a lottery pick. But guarentee a chance at 3 max deals, before resigning Porzingis. 29-23

Mudiay/Burke/Shumpert
Trier/Ntilikina/McLemore
Knox/Dotson/Hezonja
Vonleh/Robinson/Randolph
Porzingis/Kanter/Koufos

Summer
Trier for Bucks late 2nd
Ntilikina for Hawks 2 late 2nd

Walker/Mudiay/Pond-5
Leonard/CaMartin-45/Co.Martin-59
Durant/Knox/Dotson
Vonleh/Paschall-40/Washinton-47
Porzingis/Govan-51/Robinson

15 Dec 2018 23:54:04
I'd do it if I was the Kings but I don't think NY would.

15 Dec 2018 20:09:26
Clippers: Shumpert+ Koufos+ S Hill+ 1rnd pick NO 2021 (lottery protected)

NO: T Harris

Sac: Gallinari+ 1rnd pick NO 2019

15 Dec 2018 20:54:56
Why would the clippers do this? It doesn't even clear cap for next season? Hill is still owed another 13.2mil next season.

15 Dec 2018 21:15:48
But they get off Gallinari's last year of $21+.

Not sure there is enough here for the Kings either. Deal takes shumpert away who has been getting minutes at SF and replaces it with Gallinari who can't play the SF. Also, the 1st rounder for $24 mil in salary is also pretty light. Atlanta got a first and a second from Denver for $21 mil in salary.

15 Dec 2018 21:38:19
I would pay 22.6 mil for Gallinari any day of the week than 13.2 for S. Hill. Gallinari has been good this season. Big guys that shoot are timeless. He's a bargain compared to love next season.

15 Dec 2018 21:41:17
Hills contract is only guaranteed 1mill next year so it actually does save then cap.

15 Dec 2018 21:56:55
From what it looks like to me, SAC is going to have to take on some long term salary to get a 1st pick for their expiring contracts, or even another multi season deal from a quality player. Deadline is a month and a half away we'll see who the holdouts are. Picks were valued really high last year's deadline too. 1sts anyway.

15 Dec 2018 23:05:53
Potential lottery picks were rated high. However, definiate playoff teams 1st rounders? Not so high.

Plus, the depth of talent in last years draft had something to do with it. This years draft? Pretty top heavy.

15 Dec 2018 23:09:50
Chamuco42, wrong Hill. S. Hill for N.O.P. Makes 13.2mil next season.

16 Dec 2018 00:00:11
I don't think it's realistic that koufos, McLemore, Randolph, Shumpert will return a good player or pick without including a good player or a pick. I could be wrong but it's usually giving up something to get something. Expiring players is giving up nothing essentially. Put a trade together where those guys are dealt for a 1st. It's hard to imagine every possible deal out there ( I certainly can't) but there are some regular practices to serve as guidelines.

15 Dec 2018 19:14:14
Bulls: Parker

Kings: Randolph, Shumpert, 1 of the three 2nd's SAC owns in '19

15 Dec 2018 20:34:42
Why for kings? They have so many forwards.

15 Dec 2018 20:58:11
They need a small forward. They bring Bogdanovich off the bench because they like the Hield defense starting and Bogdanovich scoring on the other teams subs. SAC desperately needs a defensive SF to develop or play now if they're serious about competing.

15 Dec 2018 21:18:05
Plus you left out the minutes Parker would take away from Bagley and Giles (not that Giles gets minutes now) .

15 Dec 2018 21:39:49
I wouldn't do the trade with Parker playing PF in mind at all. If that were the case, I would never do it to begin with. Duh.

15 Dec 2018 15:23:53
New variation?

Phoenix trades Ariza; receives Rivers, Yogi Farell and 2 future 2nd rounders

Washington trades Rivers, Oubre and protected 2nd rounder; receives Ariza

Sacramento trade Yogi Farrell and a future 2nd rounder; receives Oubre.

15 Dec 2018 16:12:47
@ Fredman,

New variation?

Phoenix trades Ariza, receives Rivers, and Brogdan and two future 2nd rd picks.

Washington trades Rivers and Oubre and protected 2nd rd pick, receives Ariza

Milwaukee Bucks trade Brogdan and future 2nd rd pick, and receives Oubre

Thoughts?

15 Dec 2018 16:29:35
If I was Phoenix or Washington I would jump on that.

As for Milwaukee, not sure Oubre > Brogdon. But it does allow them to start Oubre at the SF and move Middleton back to SG.

15 Dec 2018 16:48:30
@Fredman, Agreed! The Bucks should move Middleton back to SG. At 6'8", He would tower over most SG's. Oubre is only 6'7" But is a more natural SF. Plus Oubre needs more PT, And Middleton needs more shooting and makes. He's been in a pretty bad slump lately, Stating he had a bad finger since game 1?

15 Dec 2018 18:25:29
The Suns were happy with squat apparently. No way oubre or rivers stays in PHX long term.

14 Dec 2018 17:21:53
3 team trade


Pelicans
Jaylon Brown
Terry Rozier
Myles Turner
Tyreke Evans (exp)
Daren Collison (exp)
Cory Joseph (exp)
2019 1st (from SAC via BOS)
2019 1st (from LAC via BOS)
2019 1st (from MEM via BOS)
2019 1st (from BOS)


Celtics
Anthony Davis
Solomon Hill

Pacers
Gordon Heyward
Elfrid Peyton

14 Dec 2018 22:01:15
Is it true that Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis are both "Derrick Rose Rule" contracts and thus cannot be on the same team?

14 Dec 2018 23:04:02
Until July 1, 2019 when Irving's contract expires. It has a lot of parts for its full explanation, but in general Davis, and Irving are both Rose Rule max contracts currently, and no team may possess more than 1 Rose Rule player contract.

15 Dec 2018 10:10:20
So the earliest would be the start of next offseason. So don't expect to see AD traded until at least then. One it enables NO to place a super max offer in front of AD and two it enables Boston to put an actual executable offer down for AD.

15 Dec 2018 19:45:58
To the Celtics anyway. It was always sort of that way league wide anyway but someone could come to the table with a ridiculous offer the Pela can't refuse. The Suns 1st right now would motivate me if I were the Pels. I'd trade Holiday, Randle too and start a full rebuild. Hopefully around Williamson.

15 Dec 2018 22:40:17
Its one of the better trade AD and rebuild proposals, but Tatum would also have to be added.

13 Dec 2018 20:21:57
Blazers: Ariza, Randolph

Suns: Shumpert, E.Turner

Kings: Anderson, Harkless, '19 POR 1st, '19 swap 2nds w/Suns option.

13 Dec 2018 21:39:41
Finally, one I could kind of agree with. But I think I would still pass if I were Divac so that I would still have a shot at Otto Porter Jr.

Plus, I would be shocked if Portland would ever consider taking ZBo back after the way he left Portland. Maybe with new ownership.

13 Dec 2018 22:20:27
Suns need a pg. Hiw does this help them?

13 Dec 2018 23:34:13
Sums are a lottery team. Shumpert and Turner both play the point.

14 Dec 2018 00:23:12
Kings need a legit starting wing, preferably younger than Ariza. Don’t think kings need more picks, have plenty of young talent, need to use cap space to overpay for a legit player.

14 Dec 2018 00:42:38
Shump and turner are PGs? I thought kings had Fox and Mason. I watch blazers turner doesn't handle the balks as much as 3 guards on roster.

14 Dec 2018 00:45:38
Fredman, you like Porter, you've mentioned it several times. Kings could easily trade for him, why have they not, what opening are they waiting on? Porter is high cash risk, low reward in my opinion. I'd rather have Batum.

14 Dec 2018 01:50:20
Btec- since when? I watch kings and irs masin and fox. Portland guards control the ball.

14 Dec 2018 03:21:03
Turner is the PG of the second unit all the time. Has been, off and on since he was in Portland. Last season they were trying to play him @ 2-3 with Napier getting the back-up PG minutes. This season Turner is the clear PG again of the 2nd unit. Shump has been a PG his entire career until this season, because the kings are playing him at SF because they need one so bad. Or starting 2 SG's with shump as a 2, whatever tickles your fancy.

14 Dec 2018 03:24:22
Hyena, Fredman likes Porter, is that what you have in mind? Expiring deals sometimes net you Jae crowder at the end of the day without giving something up. The kings don't have a 1st this season why wouldn't they want a pick?

14 Dec 2018 22:08:40
I like Porter because his position, age, style of play (plays off the ball) and length of contract fits very well with the Kings current ypung players. Also, i don't believe it will take a lot of assets to land him in a trade. Just have to have the right assets and cap space is huge because it enables to Washington below the luxury tax level. Not many owners are cool with paying a luxury tax for a non-playoff team. If washington is not a playoff team by the trade deadline, you can bet on someone grttong traded.

13 Dec 2018 18:00:35
Lakers - Wall, Hield, & Jackson
Wizards - Rondo(exp) Kcp(exp) & Bonga
Kings - Ingram

Wall/Ball
Hield/Hart
James/Stephenson
Kuzma/Jackson
Mcgee/Chandler

13 Dec 2018 18:11:02
Why would the Kings do this?

13 Dec 2018 18:28:22
Heild + Justin Jackson for Ingram?

Ahhh. not only No, But Heck No!

Hield is probably just as good as Ingram is right now. and cheaper!

13 Dec 2018 17:06:05
Realistic deam Kings trade scenario.

Kings trade ZBo, Yogi Farrell, McLemore, 2 best future 2nd round picks.
Kings receive Otto Porter

Lakers trade KCP, protected 2019 1st rounder
Lakers receive Ariza, 2nd best 2nd rounder from Kings.

Phoenix trades Ariza
Phoenix recives ZBo ($12 mil expiring), Yogi Farrell (cheap playmaking guard) best 2nd rounder from Kings.

Washington trades OPJ
Washington receives KCP (may not veto with playing time at SF), McLemore (expiring $5 mil), Lakers protected 1st rounder.

Trade also moves Washington beneath the Luxury Tax Line and resets the penalty dollar multiplier for next year when Wall's extension kicks in.

14 Dec 2018 00:26:47
Think kings can get this done without giving any picks to take porters contract.

13 Dec 2018 12:52:03
OKC get Hardaway Anderson Kornet Burke
Suns get Schroder Thomas OKC 1st
Kings get Roberson Lee
Knicks get Daniels Shumpert Abrines Randolph Kings and Suns 2nd

They add 2 better shooters to add to improve their depth. This trade puts them WCF.

Westbrook/Felton/Burke
Hardaway/Ferguson/Diallo
George/Grant/Cabarrott
Anderson/Paterson/Nader
Adams/Noel/Kornet

Much better balance team with a better starting PG without giving up any of their young core

Schroder/Okobo/Evans
Booker/Crawford/Melton
Jackson/Bridges/King
Warren/Holmes/Thomas
Ayton/Bender/Moreland

Stronger wings should help a balance attack and make them deeper. This should help them make the playoffs

Fox/Mason/Ferrell
Hield/Lee/McLemore
Roberson/Jackson/Bogdanovic
Bjelica/Labissierre/Giles
Bagley/Stein/Koufos

Clear all non rookie contract beyond this yr.

Ntilikina/Mudiay/Baker
Trier/Daniels/Abrines
Knox/Dotson/Shumpert
Vonleh/Randolph/Hezonja
Kanter/Robinson/Porzingis

Walker/Ntilikina/Ponds-48
Leonard/Trier/Ca.Martin-40
Durant/Dotson/Co.Martin-pickup
Porzingis/Knox/Paschall-32
Robinson/Bol-3/Govan-pickup

13 Dec 2018 16:40:28
The Kings are not trading $20 mil in expirings for a non-shooting Roberson and an overpaid Lee. They would be smarter to hold and wait to see about OPJ at the trade deadline.

13 Dec 2018 17:39:01
That’s awful for OKC.

12 Dec 2018 18:01:30
*Heat get: Jonas Valanciunas, Delon Wright, Zach Randolph
PG Dragic/Wright/T. Johnson
SG Ellington/Wade/Waiters
SF Richardson/Winslow/Jones
PF J. Johnson/Olynk/Randolph
Ce Valanciunas/Adebayo/Haslem

*Kings get: Norman Powell
PG Fox/Ferrell/Mason
SG Hield/Bogdanovic/McLemore
SF Shumpert/Jackson/Powell
PF Bjelica/Bagley/Giles
Ce WCS/Labissiere/Koufos

*Raptors get: Hassan Whiteside, Rodney McGruder, 2019 2nd (From MIA)
PG Lowry/VanVleet/Lloyd
SG Green/McGruder/Brown
SF Leonard/Miles/Richardson
PF Siakam/Anunoby/Boucher
Ce Ibaka/Whiteside/Monroe

12 Dec 2018 19:22:07
Ehites8de is useless. Value is better coming off bench knowing his role.

12 Dec 2018 19:51:28
Why are the Kings taking on $20 mil in future salary for a player averaging 5 points a gane? Show me the draft picks!

12 Dec 2018 21:49:24
I wouldn't offer the kings draft rights for an expiring 10mil contract. I'd trade otto porter straight across probably. Whiteside and 2nd for Shumpert, koufos maybe. I'm dumbfounded as to how expiring deals obtain 1sts without taking on salary in return, usually dead salary. For the kings expiring players that is.

13 Dec 2018 01:26:53
Btec- Miami will eat whiteside deal. Letting wade leave and signing Whiteside were huge mistakes.

13 Dec 2018 02:12:23
"I'm dumbfounded as to how expiring deals obtain 1sts without taking on salary in return, usually dead salary. "

Exactly my point. Most trades listed here have the Kings trading away expiring deals and taking on (future) salary WITHOUT the 1st round draft picks.

Plus, you have to consider what the upcoming FA class looks like. With the upcoming FA class, the demand (and thus the value) for current expiring contracts is great. The Kings have a max salary slot worth of expirings. Someone is going to want them, but they are going to have to pay something like two 1st rounders for them probably at the trade deadline. let's say NY for taking Hardaway completely off their hands.

13 Dec 2018 03:20:39
I never was or have been unfair to the kings or proposed deals on here to short them, certainly not purposefully. If Ariza is going to get a 1st and SAC doesn't have one to trade this season then taking on salary is an option. Your being too sensitive and overreacting towards someone who is not a fantasy fan on this site and trolling your team. I do my best to be honest and objective. More than most who post ridiculous trades with their fanboy team getting the extreme advantage.

11 Dec 2018 17:18:06
With LBJ comments about "it was here or the garden" did he say he would of signed with Boston if not Lakers. Would cavs did a sign and trade heyeward and sac pick for James or would Boston traded horford for a trade exception to sign james. Like horford to Lakers for a pick because the Lakers had the cap.

Lakers have the cap to sign Irving next year. That would be the best move to reunite with James and trade Ball Ingram and kuzma plus 3 first for Davis. Kuzma looking like a good second option or could get better and lead there team.
Irving
Hart
James
Davis
McGee or use mle on Jordan if he takes it. And sign other veterans to fill roster.

11 Dec 2018 17:40:29
The last thing Irving wants, is to play with Lebron again. He will resign with Boston.

11 Dec 2018 17:58:22
The Garden=Madison Square. The Knicks. Not the Celtics.

11 Dec 2018 19:20:37
Your right b mil I don't know y I thought Celtics. I was just waking up and write this in my sleep lol.

11 Dec 2018 23:21:04
No way he meant Madison Square Garden. Why would LeBron consider playing for the Knicks? They are a bad team, nowhere near contending for a championship. LeBron is all about winning now as his career winds down. Of course he meant the Celtics. Lol.

12 Dec 2018 00:34:06
Celtics fans lmao.

12 Dec 2018 01:00:05
Are the Lakers that close to contending? It’s no secret that Lebron has always loved NY and MSG. There’s no doubt it was MSG he was talking about. I’m surprised anyone could confuse what he said.

11 Dec 2018 16:06:49
PHO - SAC

Phoenix: Randolph, Koufos, McLemore
Sacramento: Ariza, Anderson

The Suns use Ariza to clear their books instead of a 20ish 1st. They continue hard tanking to grab Zion and offer a max to Kemba to end up like this:

Walker/Okobo/Melton
Booker/Jackson
Warren/Bridges
Williamson/vet
Ayton/Holmes/2nd

The Kings use their cap space and take on Anderson to get Ariza help them make it to the playoffs.

11 Dec 2018 23:17:05
As a kings fan think that trade makes sense. Also Ryan Anderson from Sacramento so makes it slightly more appealing for fans. 3 guys we are giving up have zero value to us at this point.

12 Dec 2018 00:22:34
I posted this yesterday and it was poo pooed on here.

12 Dec 2018 11:00:50
Hyena. As a Kings fan, there is NO WAY the Kings take this deal unless Phoenix adds a protected 1st rounder to the deal. Anderson is owed over $21 mil next season. That is $10 mil worse than what ZBo is right now. Houston tried to send us Anderson before and Vlade said No. There is nothing in this offer that should change his mind now.

12 Dec 2018 16:13:21
Fredman is wrong and his feelings were hurt or something because he refuses to admit that a blazer fan is more knowledgeable it at kings basketball. We all know that Anderson renegged his contract with the Suns when he was traded from HOU at the beginning of the season obstinence. Great for us on here. Whooppee.

12 Dec 2018 22:50:24
I’m not saying I like Ryan Anderson at the price point at all but the kings have plenty of cap space and for one year on Ryan Anderson to shed zbo and Koufax contract to land Ariza I thinks a reasonable trade. If anyone thinks th kings can land Harrison Barnes or MKG for nothing but expiring contracts sure, otto porter I’d take also and he is plenty overpaid as well, kings have to overpay, I grew up there have you been there? It’s not exactly Hollywood.

13 Dec 2018 03:09:26
Kings say no because of Ryan Anderson.

11 Dec 2018 13:05:42
Pelicans Trade Solomon Hill 2019 first round pick (unprotected)

Kings Trade Willie Cauley-Stein Bogdan Bogdanovich

Kings willing to take any offers

But first round pick have to be included

Salary Match

What y'all think?

11 Dec 2018 13:31:38
Think kings are trying to make playoffs snd won't trade 2 of their top 6 guys to help pelicans. I think kings might end the year with more wins than pelicans.

11 Dec 2018 13:35:51
Why does Sacramento do this?

11 Dec 2018 13:50:52
Kings say, "Ahhhhhhh, No! "

Bogdan is valued higher than that in Sacramento. Team's top 4 player.

11 Dec 2018 01:45:20
Kings: Shumpert, Randolph, Koufos, McLemore

Suns: Ariza, Anderson

11 Dec 2018 03:41:10
Need 2 first rounders from Phoenix in order to take on Anderson remaining salary. Anderson has been offered to the Kings before and they hace straight refused to take on his salary.

Willing to send Phoenix Yogi Farrell, Ben Maclemore and a 2020 2nd rounder for Ariza thou .

11 Dec 2018 04:10:58
Windhorst reported the Kings are actively trying to acquire players to help them get in the playoffs. If the Suns would take that ram-shackle crew? The Suns could get a 1st for Ariza otherwise. Anderson is only 15.6 mil next season, all the kings players traded are not needed, Ariza definitely fills their giant hole @ SF. Which Bogdanovich and Hield can't defensively. Keep koufos and McLemore, forgot kings have some cap. A 1st rd pick 20-25 is probably valued around 15mil. A decent 2nd is about 5mil.

11 Dec 2018 04:27:38
I thinks it's good trade.

11 Dec 2018 11:35:14
Btec. I don't know where you got your info from, but Ryan Anderson salary is $20 mil this season and $21 mil next season.

Also, on another fanbased website, we looked at salary dump trades and determined a mid 1st rounder to be worth $18 mil in salary cap. Using that evaluation is where the two first rounders are needed for Anderson's $20 and $21 mil salaries.

11 Dec 2018 13:46:57
You are dead wrong. Look it up. It's 15.6. Use basketball reference it gets updates frequently. Please don't make a habit of calling me out, and then not using good sources, is the reason why. Picks 20-25 aren't mid round picks. Picks 13-17 would be mid round.

11 Dec 2018 17:11:38
Even if you're right Fredman, you're still wrong.

If a first is worth 18 million, then you're saying that they're ~2 million under. Yet you are not factoring in Ariza's value (which is about a first) or the 4 guys from the Kings (who have minimal value at best, negative value at worst) .

Two firsts would be worth 36 million, far more than Anderson's contract. A second rounder would fill the gap, not another first.

12 Dec 2018 02:58:48
Ummm. Anderson's total contract is over $41 mil for starters.

Ariza is only worth a 1st rounder if Phoenix is willing to take back a bad contract (which they are not willing because they could just take MKP and a 1st from the Lakers and not need a 3rd team) .

Plus, the Kings 4 expiring contracts listed above have more trade worth than Ariza does. That $35 mil in expiring contracts is worth how many 1st rounders + bad contracts? 2? Yea. I thought so.

Still a bad deal for Sacramento.

12 Dec 2018 07:40:02
Use basketball reference. You are spreading fake news or lying if you prefer to say Anderson is owed 40mil anything. Why are you being stubborn on this fact about Anderson being paid 15.6mil next season? The info is everywhere! Expiring contracts are worth 0 picks. They are only useful in trades when acquiring other contracts/ salary. Give it up. Ego's are only with saving when they are attached to human beings.

10 Dec 2018 19:45:03
Bucks Trade Malcolm Brogdon Tony Snell DJ Wilson

Kings Trade Buddy Hield Zach Randolph

Bucks receive Buddy Hield Zach Randolph

Kings receive Malcolm Brogdon Tony Snell DJ Wilson

Salary Match

Buddy Hield is good shape shooter for starting shooting guard

Bucks can use Z-Bo for come after bench

Kings can pay Malcolm Brogdon Off-Season

10 Dec 2018 20:11:04
As a bucks fan I could get down with this.

10 Dec 2018 20:11:54
Bad for the Buck's. Hield is missing more than he's making and is a terrible defender. Z-Bo is nothing more than yesterdays news. He should have stayed in Memphis! I believe the Bucks would pass!

10 Dec 2018 22:27:15
Kings would respond with "Where is the first rounder you are adding to this deal? "

10 Dec 2018 22:34:47
Why for kings?

10 Dec 2018 22:48:29
Torgue. Hate to break it to you, but most NBA plays miss more shots than they make.

Heild is making more than 40% of his 3s this year.

11 Dec 2018 00:45:28
Shiller41. Because Hield > Brogdon and everyone else Milwaukee is offering is garbage. Kings actually take a step back with this deal. And since they are taking a step back, there would have to be some draft pick compensation like a 1st rounder (especially considering how many 2nd rounder the Kings have in the next 3 years) .

11 Dec 2018 13:07:36
@karloo6, Hield better check his stats! Someone's not being truthful! Z-Bo is 37-38 yrs old. at 6'9" 260, and makes 11.6 Mil a year. At that price, The Bucks should have just kept Henson! 10 years younger, and a better shot blocker. Now, You would put Hield over ROY Brogdan? Now, Why would the Bucks also have to send a 1st rd. pick? I believe they would pass on both Hield and Z-Bo!

11 Dec 2018 14:04:44
I like Bogdanovich over Hield anyway. They are both terrible defenders but Bogdan has the shooting edge. Bogdanovich was ridiculous in the rookie/ sophomore game last season.

10 Dec 2018 16:20:35
Wizards trade Otto porter

Kings trade zbo, shumpert, and skal

Trade seems to obvious, what am I missing?
Wizards should take any option to shed this contract with wall and Beal contracts. Gives them contracts that roll off

Kings need a legit wing and have the cap room to take this and live w it for a few years knowing they aren't going to land a better legit free agent

10 Dec 2018 16:40:42
I like the idea. I see Porter as over paid by about 9-12mil annually. I think maybe some compensation going to the Kings for around 30mil dead money is a good idea.

10 Dec 2018 17:03:14
Porter could be good in Sacramento.

10 Dec 2018 18:14:32
As a kings fan think we do it with no compensation. We have to overpay for a marquee free agent to come anyways might as well take a guy who is locked up at the position w need.

10 Dec 2018 18:22:13
Is porter an all NBA defender? is porter all nba anything? Is he an All-star? How many players make 26mil and put up the numbers Porter does? As a basketball fan I hate to see small markets pay caviar prices for bait! Unless they are rewarded for their sacrifice.

10 Dec 2018 22:36:20
As much as I prefer to sign a legit wing for less, who are the kings going to entice for less? Hey offere Zach Lavine 4 years 80mm and still couldn’t land him. At some point kings need to get over hump and appear to be a legit team. They have youth talent, have to make next step or in 2-3 years all their talent just walk out to go to LA or NY. They have the cap space and flexibility and probably can offer porter more playing time than 30 min a game without somebody like Oubre behind him. Could think of plenty worse contracts out there than porters.

11 Dec 2018 14:28:07
Yeah, I would have to be desperate and see something else in Porter to be willing to help another team for free. Demare Carroll, MKG, or Allen Crabbe are better options in my opinion. It's a salary/ contribution problem for me. Harrison Barnes would be better, he's probably available.

10 Dec 2018 03:16:40
PHOENIX/ SACRAMENTO

Phoenix trades Ariza @ $15 mil

Sacramento trades Yogi Farrell @ $3 mil + Ben MacLemore @ $5.2 mil + 2020 2nd round pick.

Phoenix supposedly wants a playmaking guard (Yogi) and a draft pick. The only way they are going to get a first rounder for Ariza is to take a bad contract in return for Ariza (not seeing that happen. )

Ariza becomes the perfect 3 and D guy to start at the 3/ SF position on this roster.

08 Dec 2018 15:23:01
Wolves get Hardaway Lee Kornet NY 2020 1st
Kings get Wiggens Thomas
Knicks get Randolph Koufos Shumpert Deng Bayless

Knicks send Knox Ntilikina Robinson to G-League to develop

Mudiay/Burke/Bayless
Trier/Shumpert/Baker
Dotson/Deng/C.WIlliams
Vonleh/Randolph/Hezonja
Kanter/Koufos/Porzingis

Wolves improve at SG and future 1st

Teague/Rose/Jones
Hardaway/Lee/Okogie
Covington/Diop/Nunnanly
Gibson/Saric/Toliver
Towns/Dieng/Kournet

Kings have good balance team

Fox/Mason/Ferrell
Hield/Bogdonavic/McLemore
Wiggens/Jackson/Williams
Bjelica/Labissierre/Thomas
Bagley/Stein/Giles

08 dec 2018 21:58:35
kings want no part of wiggins. unless some 1st rounders come with him. now they would be interested in covington thou.

09 Dec 2018 00:55:59
Covington for Bogdanovich?

09 Dec 2018 03:58:11
Covington for Shumpert and a future second rounder. Maybe 2 second rounders.

09 Dec 2018 04:02:55
Kings don't need def they need offense from sf position. Wiggens solid scorer. But without giving up any picks and shumpert Randolph koufos won't land u covington they it lands you Wiggens. Forget about the money. Kings ain't landing no super fa, this is a good trade for them.

09 Dec 2018 04:33:12
Wiggins isn't worth it. He is an inefficient scorer and does very little else. Definately not worth the max deal he is being paid. Covington is a 3 and D type that fits perfectly on the wing with Fox and Hield. Plus ypu have to take into mind the defense minded head coach the Kings have as well.

Minbesota is stuck with Wiggins unless they give him away.

07 Dec 2018 21:50:13
*Clippers get: Iman Shumpert, Zach Randolph
PG SGA/Beverley/Teodosic
SG Bradley/Williams/Robinson
SF Shumpert/Scott/Thornwell
PF Harris/Randolph/Mbah a Moute
Ce Gortat/Harrell/Marjanovic
- Clear cap space.

*Kings get: Matthew Dellavedova, Tony Snell, Tyrone Wallace 2021 1st (From MIL)
PG Fox/Delly/Mason
SG Hield/Bogdanovic/Wallace
SF Jackson/Snell/McLemore
PF Bjelica/Bagley/Giles
Ce WCS/Labissiere/Koufos
- Get a future pick and needed 3 and D player.

*Bucks get: Danilo Gallinari, Yogi Ferrell
PG Bledsoe/DDV/Ferrell
SG Brogdon/Pat/Brown
SF Middleton/Gallinari/Wilson
PF Giannis/Illyasova/Wood
Ce Lopez/Maker/Henson
- Add depth to the bench; get rid of two bad contracts.

07 Dec 2018 23:31:20
Cavs traded for Dellevedova.

08 Dec 2018 01:10:04
Bucks just traded Dellavedova, Henson, a 1st and 2nd pick to the Cavs. for G. Hill, And S. Dekker. The traded Dekker to the Wizards for J. Smith and a 2nd rd pick. More of a salary dump, But can use Hill, And can Max out Middleton next year.

08 Dec 2018 02:17:39
Kings gave up too much.

08 Dec 2018 22:09:45
Funny, I thought the Clippers were giving up too much.

07 Dec 2018 20:10:43
*Nets get: Zach Randolph
PG Russell/Dinwiddie/Napier
SG Crabbe/Harris/Levert
SF RHJ/Carroll/Graham
PF Randolph/Faried/Kurucs
Ce Allen/Davis/Williams
- Get needed size and rebounding.

*Kings get: Jared Dudley, 2023 2nd
PG Fox/Ferrell/Mason
SG Hield/Bogdan/McLemore
SF Shumpert/Jackson/Dudley
PF Bjelica/Bagley/Giles
Ce WCS/Skal/Koufos
- Clear Up logjam at the 4 and 5, also get a future asset. Both exp. contracts so no loss since they don't even play Z-Bo.

 
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