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21 Jun 2017 22:51:21
Paul Millsap sign and trade ideas
Kings, Suns, Nuggets interested per report

Atl-Sac
Millsap, #19 for #10, #34

Atl-Phx
Millsap for Bender, Knight

Atl-Den
Millsap, #19 for Faried, #13

21 Jun 2017 17:26:43
LA Lakers crazy Offseason


•Trade: Lakers-Pacers-Suns-Jazz

-LAKERS get Paul George, #4 pick (via PHO), #52 pick (via PHO), and a 2018 2nd (via IND)
-PACERS get Dante Exum, Jared Dudley, #27 and #28 picks (via LAL), and Miami 2018 1st (via PHO)
-SUNS get #2 pick (via LAL), Luol Deng, and Derrick Favors
-JAZZ get Eric Bledsoe

•Trade: Lakers-Celtics-Knicks

-LAKERS get Avery Bradley
-CELTICS get Kristaps Porzingis
-KNICKS get Julius Randle, #3 pick, Boston 2018 1st, Lakers 2018 1st (or Kings 2019 1st via BOS), and a 2019 2nd (via BOS)

•Draft De'Aaron Fox

•Free Agency:
-Re-sign Nick Young 1yr 13m
-Sign Terrence Jones 1yr 5m

Lineup:
PG: Fox, Clarkson, Nwaba
SG: Bradley, Young
SF: George, Ingram, Brewer
PF: Nance, Jones
C: Lopez, Zubac, Black

Then they still should have cap room for another all star in 2018.

21 Jun 2017 20:18:34
Don't think that the Lakers will be able to get back the #4 pick along with George while giving up the #2 and off loading Deng.

21 Jun 2017 22:30:56
Seems very one sided towards the Lakers for both trades. The first one you get George by and the number 4 pick by giving up your current 3 1st round picks. And in the second one you get Bradley but only give up Randell and Boston looses all of the assets that they have built up over the years, if the Lakers through in some of their own picks I would be less suspect of the trade but I would still rather have Bradley, now especially since we won't be draft in Fultz.

21 Jun 2017 02:46:28
ATL will not be resigning Millsap after trading Dwight for less

I think they will go full rebuild

ATL/SAC

ATL get #10 pick + A.Afflalo

SAC get 2018 ATL 1st round pick (top 7 protected) + K.Bazemore

will give the Hawks a lottery pick for this year while sheding some salary. Hawks could be bad this year so Kings might do it while getting a young player in Bazemore to start at 3

21 Jun 2017 05:04:48
Bazemore would need a first just to take his contract.

21 Jun 2017 06:05:08
Why would Kings deal Afflalo's non-guaranteed contract and guaranteed #10 pick in the current draft for Bazemore's decently sized contract and a top 7 protected pick in a draft a year from now. Although I guess Bazemore is a solid player that would start for Kings he wouldn't be in their long-term plans which should be the focus right now. Having the pick being top 7 protected offers virtually no upside to dealing #10 this year.

20 Jun 2017 20:43:39
Three team deal:

To NYK - #5, #10, Crowder, the '18 or '19 pick from Philly

To BOS - Zinger

To SAC - #3, Rozier

Knicks pick Fox, Markkanen and Mitchell, add a starter and another good pick.

Boston gets a big piece to play beside Horford.

The Kings get one of Ball or Jackson, and add a young PG with upside.

20 Jun 2017 21:22:16
Can you say that any of those picks will be better than Zinger? Why not keep him and get backcourt help with #8. Knicks have to get more for Zinger. He's in huge demand. Look how many posts want him.

20 Jun 2017 22:04:35
I think the Knicks want a complete rebuild. I like the idea of the 3 Way trade. But can't imagine the Knicks want crowder.

21 Jun 2017 00:09:44
Dont forget to take Noah too.

21 Jun 2017 01:56:20
I think the Knicks would want Crowder as a replacement for Melo if/ when they move him. Look at a potential starting five of Fox, Lee, Crowder, Markkanen, Hernangomez with Mitchell, O'Quinn, and whatever they get for Melo back. They wouldn't be very good this year, but they would have an exciting future.

20 Jun 2017 18:06:01
Knicks Rebuild

NYK- Jae Crowder, #3 pick 2017, 2018 LAL/2019 SAC pick (Bos)
BOS- Kristaps Porzingis

Boston essentially trades the 1st pick, and Jae Crowder for Porzingis. They are the favorites to sign Heyward as well. This gives them a starting 5 of Horford, Porzingis, Heyward, Bradley, Thomas. Very strong team to compete in the East. The Knicks love Josh Jackson and could select him at 3.


NYK- #14 pick
MIA- Carmelo Anthony

The Heat were able to shed Bosh's contract. Melo would bring another piece to a pretty solid core. Maybe this could lure in Lebron next year.


The Knicks would have picks 3, 8, 14 this year and most likely two top 5 picks next year (their own and LAL pick if its between 2-5). They would be able to spend money in FA and attract some bigger names with a good young core.

20 Jun 2017 18:55:34
AJ- Don't think Knicks are trading Zinger. For the Knicks to trade Porzingis within division, it will cost Boston at least Crowder AND 3 #1's. Not sure if that's what you posted.

20 Jun 2017 21:23:34
Crowder and two top 5 picks seems like fair value for porzingis. I like this deal for both sides.

20 Jun 2017 13:15:24
SAC Rebuild

1. Let Rudy Gay walk
2. Resign Tyreke Evans

3. SAC - DET

SAC get: Andre Drummond

DET get: WCS, Aaron Afflalo, 2017 1st DP SAC (5)

4. SAC - SAS

SAC get: Lamarcus Aldridge

SAS get: Skal Labissere and 2017 1st DP SAC (10)

2017-18

pg. Evans
sg. Heild
sf. Temple
pf. Aldridge
c. Drummond

20 Jun 2017 13:33:57
Rebuilding by getting big men that aren't good on defense and giving up all youth and picks? Smart.

20 Jun 2017 14:02:21
Drummond is bad at defense?

20 Jun 2017 14:49:39
How is this a rebuild? You just gave up two picks that could produce better players than Drummond or Aldridge. Not to mention giving up two young bigs that played very well at the end of last year. This would never happen.

20 Jun 2017 14:53:20
Let Gay walk? He is walking on his own actually so at least part of your idea makes sense. Resigning Evans is a risk based on his health issues but if you get him at right value it's worth it.

20 Jun 2017 16:41:43
Ok stay a lottery team.

20 Jun 2017 10:42:47
NYK and Orl

NYK get Vucevic, Payton and the 25th pick
Draft Ferguson

Orl get Noah and 8th pick
Draft Best available forward of either Tatum or Issac and then Smith jr.

Knicks build around Porzingis with a Center whose a good passer and improved defender and add a pg who is pass first and will be like a rondo Boston type. They add Ferguson to develop into a 3-d guy all while getting rid of Noah's contract.

Orl need a couple years to restock talent so landing another top 10 pick jump starts them off, Suns rumoured high on Issac and kings on Fox so let's say for now Tatum falls to 6. Having a core of Smith jr, Tatum and Gordon could be a great restart and 2018 draft is loaded with Bigs so they could grab a Center then and have Biyombo start has his rim protection could complement Tatum and Smith jr scoring. They take on another bad Center contract but when they expire Tatum and smith jr will be due extensions.

20 Jun 2017 05:35:00
Probably won't happen, but I think it makes sense for both teams:

Bos-Sac

Celtics get #5, #10, Papagiannis

Celtics want ether Tatum or Jackson and one of those two guys would be available at #5 (1. Fultz 2. Ball 3. Fox 4. Tatum/Jackson) and they add the #10 which can be used on Markkanen or Collins. They cut Zeller's contract to clear more space to sign Hayward. Losing Crowder is tough but if they get Jackson or Tatum and Hayward then there are just too many guys playing the 2 and 3 (Hayward, Bradley, Crowder, Brown, Jackson/Tatum, Smart sometimes).

Kings get #3, Crowder, Zeller

Kings want Fox to be their guy at point guard. They trade up to make sure Pheonix doesn't take him at #4 and get Crowder who is on an incredible contract and can stet at the 3.

20 Jun 2017 01:51:09
Celtics Trade: #3, 2018 BOS 1st, 2018 Brooklyn 1st, 2019 Memphis 1st, Crowder, Mickey

Receive: Butler, Vucevic, 2018 Orlando 1st

Chicago Trade: Butler and Mirotic

Receive: #5, 2018 BOS 1st, 2019 Memphis 1st, Mickey, & Hezonja

Sacramento Trade: #5 & #10

Receive: #3 and Mirotic

Orlando Trade: Vucevic, Hezonja, 2018 ORL 1st

Receive: #10, Crowder, & 2018 Brooklyn 1st

20 Jun 2017 02:11:50
Not enough value for the Kings or Bulls in my opinion. Orlando should just keep their first and the Brooklyn 1st should be going elsewhere.

20 Jun 2017 02:40:00
most delusion trade I've seen.

20 Jun 2017 00:52:40
Lakers/Kings
Lakers/Pacers

Lakers get: picks #5 and #10
Kings get: Pick #2

Kings VERY high on J.Jackson. Take him at #2.

Lakers pick Ball or fox with #5, whoever falls.

Lakers/Pacers

Lakers get:George
Pacers get: #10, Russell.

Pacers get #10 pick in this years draft, a young guard with potential.
Lakers get there guy in George.

Plus, as a sixer fan, this should put the lakers in that 8-10 range next year, with a lot of kids in ingram, ball or fox, and whoever they pick at #28. Which means we keep there pick next year and boston gets kings 2019 #1(which pleasantly is protected for the top overall pick).

19 Jun 2017 16:22:35
Ideal offseason for the Philadelphia 76ers:

Move 1: Draft Markelle Fultz

Move 2: Trade Dario Saric, Jahlil Okafor, Jerryd Bayless, rights to 2016 first-round pick (26th overall) Furkan Korkmaz, Philadelphia 76ers 2018 first-round pick and 2018 Lakers/2019 Kings pick (whichever one is not traded to the Celtics) to the Indiana Pacers for Paul George

Move 3: Terminate Gerald Henderson's non-guaranteed contract

Move 4: Sign Gordon Hayward

Move 5: Sign Dion Waiters

Upon drafting Fultz (highly likely), the 76ers will be positioned wonderfully for the future with Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons, and Fultz amongst a handful of other young bodies who look primed to be solid role players in the future. Needless to say, they'll be an intriguing location for free agents to consider. In addition, they're in a unique position this offseason where they have a lot of young trade assets, future draft picks, and more cap space than any other team can imagine.

The trade package presented above would really hard for the Pacers to turn down. A combination of young players and solid picks might be better than any combination offered by another team. The combination of three extremely talents potential stars and George, in addition to the need of a shooter/scorer and maximum cap space, would have to, at minimum, intrigue Hayward to join the 76ers. Terminating Henderson's non-guaranteed contract would save the team about eight million dollars, leaving them with about 15 million dollars left to spend. A team could never have enough shooters on their roster in today's NBA, so spending that money on Waiters (a 25-year-old Philadelphia native coming off a breakout season) would only make logical sense.

These moves would leave the team's depth chart looking like this (age in parenthesis at the start of 2017-2018 season):

1. Fultz(19)/McConnell(25)
2. Hayward(27)/Waiters(25)/Stauskas(24)
3. George(27)/Covington(26)/Anderson(23)
4. Simmons(21)/Long(24)
5. Embiid(23)/Holmes(24)

That is a team with an average age of 24 years, solid depth, star talent, and unlimited potential.

19 Jun 2017 16:42:20
And Paul george leaves you guys high and dry for LA after one season.

19 Jun 2017 17:20:23
This would be a hard situation to leave on top of the extra money.

19 Jun 2017 17:20:30
Slow down there sir. what's the need to do all this in one offseason? let's see what the Sixers have first before attempting to mortgage the future for a one year rental and a decent player in Hayward.

I also love all the Lakers fans acting as if George is already a Laker. It's comical. Common sense would tell you he doesn't leave a middle of the road team to end up on a.

19 Jun 2017 17:20:41
. much worse team.

19 Jun 2017 18:55:37
Paul George has very little trade value. He's bolting next year. Sixers pass on that huge return.

I'll give the pacer okafor and a few 2nd rounders and possibly a euro. That's literally max. He's a rent a player at best.

19 Jun 2017 15:16:14
Not really sure how valuable D'Angelo Russell is (coming from a kings fan), but is this at all reasonable...
Sac- Russell
LAL- #10 pick, McLemore, Afflalo

Sac:
1. Russell
2. Hield
3. Tatum
4. Skal
5. WCS

LAL:
1. Ball
2. Monk
3. Ingram
4. Randle
5. Black/Mozgov

19 Jun 2017 17:04:23
I don't think that's good value for Russell, here's my tweak.

And the only way I'd be OK with this trade is if D Smith can be drafted at #10 and the Lakers pick Jackson at #2.

SAC: Russell and Deng

LAL: #10 and Afflalo

McLemore is a RFA this summer and I don't think is worth tying up cap space for him. They need cap space for summer if 2018 to try and sign P George and another max player (D Cousins is my hope) .

2018:
D Smith
P George
B Ingram
L Nance
D Cousins.

19 Jun 2017 18:56:16
I'd keep Russell unless I get the 5 and the ten.

19 Jun 2017 14:47:27
Lakers looking for another first round pick.

Lal-Atl-Sac

Lakers get #10

Hawks get Russell, Deng

Kings get #19, #28, #31

19 Jun 2017 15:27:40
Lakers might do that. Don't think the hawks need russell as they have Schröder. Anyways #10 for russell is equal value. But dengs contract is to heavy for #28.
Kings won't do it before draft night. If someone like Ntilikina, monk or DSJ falls to 10 they won't trade it.

19 Jun 2017 16:44:06
Hawks are not trading #19 and #31 for D'Angelo who won't even start and deng's terrible contract.

19 Jun 2017 17:29:03
The Kings turn that down quickly.

19 Jun 2017 09:05:37
Celtics Monster Team

Trade

Celtics get: Davis

NOLA get: Brown, Crowder and Smart + 3rd Pick, 18 Nets Pick and 18 LA Pick / 19 SAC Pick

Free Agency: Sign Hayward

IT- Avery - Hayward- Al - Davis

Bench: Rozier, Zizic, Yabusele + some vets and this years 2nd rounder.

19 Jun 2017 11:18:53
People need to understand Celtics financial situation. If they renounce all their FA and waive guys like Zeller and Mickey on non-guaranteed deals they get just shy of being able to give Hayward the max. Thus in order for them to be able to add Davis too they must match his almost 24 mill contract with their outgoing salaries.

This particular trade is close salary wise but I think they make it if you consider they aren't keeping the #3 draft pick (so don't have its cap hold) .

My only concern with Pelicans trading Davis is that it would likely mean they'd have to trade Cousins too since I don't think he'd resign to a Davis-less Pelicans team with a bunch of younger guys. I think this factor makes them not deal Davis since they wouldn't get fair value on Cousins with him in final year of his contract.

19 Jun 2017 14:32:55
AD is not coming to the Celtics! Wait-trade idea- AD for IT, Bradley Crowder, Horford and #3 this year and first rounder next year. Deal?

19 Jun 2017 15:18:16
Celtic fans stop thinking AD is going anywhere for at least 3-4 years. and not to mention the number 3 pick isn't close enough. you don't trade a 22 yr old superstar who's locked up long term, wake up.

19 Jun 2017 15:24:28
Every day another Celtic fan comes up with another lame AD trade idea. And every day they will be disappointed when it NEVER happens.

19 Jun 2017 18:57:56
I still don't think that team come see close to beating lebron.

19 Jun 2017 05:21:52
Cavs - Pacers - Kings

Cavs receive
George
Ellis
Galloway

Pacers receive
Afflalo
Shumpert
Koufus
Felder
2019 Cavs second round pick
2021 first round pick Cavs
(Rights to Cedi Osman if desired)

Kings receive
Thompson
Smith

19 Jun 2017 07:23:58
I think Pacers will be able to do better than that for George from other teams looking to rent George for a year (and possibly sell him on why he should stay longer) . Celtics come to mind as a team that has assets to blow that offer out of the water without them sacrificing much.

19 Jun 2017 02:12:44
Bos-Chi

#3, 2018 LAL or 2019 Sac 1st (whichever conveys), 2018 Boston 1st, Jae Crowder, Tyler Zeller for Jimmy Butler

18 Jun 2017 19:18:30
Boston Celtics Offseason

-Trade #3 pick, Avery Bradley, 2018 Lakers 1st, 2018 Boston 1st, and 2019 Kings 1st to New York for Kristaps Porzingis

-Renounce all free agents

-Waive Tyler Zeller

•Draft:
37- Tyler Dorsey (send to D-League)

-Send Jordan Mickey to D-League

•Free Agency:
-Sign Gordon Hayward 4yr max
-Re-sign Amir Johnson 1yr MLE
-Sign Omri Casspi 1yr 4m
-Sign Vince Carter 1yr 4m
-Bring over Ante Zizic, Guerschon Yabusele
-Bring up Abdel Nader

Lineup:
PG: Thomas, Rozier, Jackson
SG: Hayward, Smart, Carter
SF: Crowder, Brown, Nader
PF: Porzingis, Yabusele, Casspi
C: Horford, Johnson, Zizic.

18 Jun 2017 21:56:52
Nba: boston dorsnt uave both the lalers and kings picks, its one or the other.

18 Jun 2017 22:27:32
Counter offer- Porzingis for #1 overall, Crowder, Horford, Bradley and Lakers #1 in '18.

18 Jun 2017 23:17:07
Oh okay then it can just be another 1st.

18 Jun 2017 23:25:29
Jvoug1 is right. Its being reported as Celtics get 2018 Lakers pick if it fall 2-5 but anywhere outside of that they get Kings 2019 pick instead (not sure if any protections on it) so Celtics really only got 2 firsts and don't have both Lakers and Kings picks.

Still not a terrible return for the Knicks but if I were them I'd hold tight to Porzingis who has the makings of a superstar and is only 21.

18 Jun 2017 19:01:54
Sacramento: 3rd and Hezonja

Boston: Vucevic and 5th

Orlando: 10th and Crowder

Sacramento gets Fox

Boston takes Isaac

Orlando gets Tatum at 6 and Monk at 10

18 Jun 2017 22:43:13
I can agree with 90% of this trade. Only thing I can't is Crowder being involved. They'll need Crowder, and picks to flip to the Bulls for Butler. George said again this weekend he wants a Southern CA destination, Boston is out of the picture.

Boston is still going to throw 5, that's right, 5 1st rd. picks and some seconds, Zeller and maybe even Crowder in this scenario, for AD. They have to at least throw it on the wall.

C's already executed plan A, I'm sure they have a plan BCDEFGHIJ etc.

18 Jun 2017 23:35:57
I guess Celtics and Suns are potential threats to steal Fox from Kings who are reportedly high on him but I don't like the value. #5 and #10 both have significant drop-offs in talent after them so I think they hold a lot of value and guarantee Kings Ball, Fox or Tatum at #5 and Smith, Markkanen, Ntilikina or Z. Collins at #10.

Great value for Celtics and Magic tho except I doubt Monk makes it to #10.

18 Jun 2017 16:22:41
The second move? Reports are BC and Celtics want deal done to work on other deals at draft.

Sixers: portzingis

Knicks: Robert covington, 2 2nd round 2017 picks, sac or lakers pick whichever does not convey to Celtics. Sixers 2018, 2021 1st round pick unprotected.

18 Jun 2017 17:00:24
I believe your right Qsb. C's Philly deal done tomorrow so another deal can be done. Boston needs to have other team (s) know that they have pick (s) .

The deeper this story goes I'd be surprised if Hayward signs with C's. They r working on getting George or Butler in place. They still need a BIG though . Vucevic? A Williams?

Thoughts?

18 Jun 2017 17:18:50
Knicks response. no.

18 Jun 2017 21:07:50
Porzingas is overrated.

18 Jun 2017 22:31:28
madeindade28- you just showed your ignorance. PLEASE don't post anymore. If he's so overrated, why is EVERYONE offering MULTIPLE #1 draft picks for him? Better to be quiet and not confirm ignorance!

18 Jun 2017 23:44:19
George just effectively drove down his value to close to zero with his most recent statements so Boston (or Lakers) can likely get him for cheap.

Don't like the value of that trade for the Knicks since that 76ers team would likely be a playoff team by 2018 and contender by 2021 so those picks don't have much value.

76ers would be devastating if they got Porzingis. Only potential issue is that with their core (Fultz, Embiid, Simmons, Saric and Porzingis) so close in age it would be quite expensive (although low risk since they'd have bird rights and RFA) to keep that team together.

18 Jun 2017 15:51:27
Kings 3rd pick

Celtics Willy Stein 10th pick

18 Jun 2017 17:16:49
C's would like to get the 5 too instead of Willy. 5 Could get them Jackson, or Isaac (who I'd prefer) and then the 10 and a second rder and Mickey for Vucevic.

Either way, pick they take will need time to develop. Any Center they get needs to be a starter though. Horford is best suited for the 4.

 
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