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19 Jun 2019 01:38:03
Al Horford looking for deals outside of BOS

Here i think are some good fits for him

SAS- his style of play fits perfectly under this system, the problem is they need to dump salaries to afford him

NOP- they have the cap to sign him for 20 per. He is a good locker room guy that will have a great impact with their young guys along with Holiday.

POR- same as Spurs they need to dump salaries to afford him but i see him as a major piece to go along with Lillard & McCollum

SAC- although the Kings might be looking for a younger center, Horford has proven he can be a very good team mate to young group

MIL- if Lopez leaves, Horford could fill in but i don't think they can afford him though

What do you think guys?

19 Jun 2019 01:47:50
I could honestly see him return to Atlanta on a mentor ship 6th man type role if they pay him decent. They need a guy like that around Trae.

19 Jun 2019 02:31:20
He will probably end up on a contending team. None of the teams mentioned above fit that bill.
If he wanted to be a "mentor", he should stay in Boston.
He wants a ring.

19 Jun 2019 02:40:44
Horford could start next to Collins and mentor him and whatever big man they select at 10/ 17.

19 Jun 2019 03:13:35
Sacramento probably makes the most sense.

19 Jun 2019 03:43:06
Ritequick - As a Hawks fan I definitely like the idea. I don’t really see it being a 6th man role though. He would be the starting center next to collins. The fourth year that they are talking about is what scares me. Don’t want to commit that kind of money long term and be stuck with a bad contract in 4 years when Trae, Collins, Huerter, and this year’s picks are in their primes.

17 Jun 2019 10:58:14

Kings out: Barnes, Bjelica, Giles
Kings in: Capela, Johnson, 1st rd pick Rockets

get a center that will fit in


Rockets out: Capela, Paul, 1st rd pick
Rockets in: Whiteside, Dragic, Bjelica
- they get rid of Paul in expense of Capela and a 1st. They got players that could help them compete


Heat out: Dragic, Whiteside, Johnson
Heat in: Paul, Barnes, Giles

Paul/13th pick

17 Jun 2019 13:34:41
Not sure how this helps the Kings. Kings trade a better shooting wing forward and a young big for a better big and a lesser wing forward and a late 2020 first rounder. And I won't talk about the future cap flexibility the Kings loose as well.

15 Jun 2019 17:06:38
Clippers off season.

Waive all their cap holds.

Trade Gallinari + Miami 2021 first rounder to Sacramento for Bjelica in a salary dump to create just enough room for 2 max salary slots. Also creates a $17 mil trade exception for the Clippers.

Sign Leonard and Walker to max deals
Use MLE on Millsap
Use BLE on Robin Lopez

Walker/ Shamet
SGA/ Williams
Leonard/ Thornwell
Millsap/ Bjelica
Lopez/ Harrell

Use trade exception plus Philly 1st rounder to fill in any voids at the trade deadline.

I would take that team over Lebron/ AD/ Jimmy Butler/ all vet minimums.

15 Jun 2019 17:25:25
Never happen, Gallo has a positive trade value can get late 1st if they need to dump. Why pay MAX for a guard when LAC has three young guards two that made All Rookie 2nd team.

15 Jun 2019 17:42:04
Look who has a pick in the late first round that will trade for Gallinari. Anyone?

I was actually thinking Sacramento may say no just to not help the Clippers build a super team.

15 Jun 2019 17:52:50
2 2nd team all rookie players aren’t going to give you a championship.

15 Jun 2019 18:22:46
IND and UTA can both use a sweet shooting forward or any contending team. LAC will not trade Gallo unless they need the 2nd MAX slot. Come the Feb trade deadline if LAC is not contending expect them to trade Gallo and Trez both are expiring and will help any contender.

15 Jun 2019 06:46:53

SAC: Andre Drummond, Robert Covington


DET: Jeff Teague, Andrew Wiggins, Nemanja Bjelica, 1st round pick MIN (11th pick), 2nd round pick from SAC

Kennard/Brown/15th pick
Maker/11th pick

MIN: Harrison Barnes (exp), Reggie Jackson (exp), Frank Mason, 2021 1st round pick from SAC (protected)


15 Jun 2019 07:50:47
Minnesota is a big swerve on this one no way I’m giving Roco to dump Wiggins, i’d rather give up my pick. But man, dream move for the Kings.

15 Jun 2019 10:23:27
Kings say no Drummond does nothing for them. Isn't fast enough clogs the lane for fox and they lose a 1st yeah right.

15 Jun 2019 15:13:02
Kings can get a big man in free agency. Not trading away their starting wing when they need more wing help and not trading more 1st round picks either.

15 Jun 2019 16:28:46
As the third to chime in, Kings say no.

Drummond checks 2 of the 3 boxes that I want in a big (shot blocking, rebounding, and mid-range shooting), but I am only giving up a future first (abd future cap flexibility) for someone who checks all the blocks.

Now if we are talking about a 2019 second rounder and a future 2nd rounder, I would give this proposal some serious consideration.

13 Jun 2019 21:20:36
Kings Rockets Celtics


Kings: Horford

Rockets: Cauley-Stein

Celtics: Capella

I'm aware
1.Cauley-Stein/Horford might be (free agent or a restricted depending on Kings and Horford)

Why it works:
Kings: Will focus on the center position in FA (Vucivec Rumored) Horford comes cheaper and will be expiring.If they restrict Cauley-Stein caphold of 12Mill actually have 24Mill available in FA

Celtics: In talks with Rockets for Capella. Horford is owed 30M next season (OptsIn). Cap needed to resign Rozier now that Irving has opted out. Needs Improved depth

Rockets: Need Cap relief. CP3 contract maybe used for Cap relief but it will need to be attached to major assets to be moved.

13 Jun 2019 21:26:10
Word on the word on the street is WCS will be offered a QO. If he declines and becomes a RFA, his QO will be pulled as soon as the Kings sign another big man. Kings options just got larger as Valacunius just opted out of his deal with the Grizzlies.

13 Jun 2019 11:25:19

Clippers out: Gallinari, Sixers 1st
Clippers in: Bjelica, 2nd round pick Kings
* they do this only if Kawhi is still willing to sign in LA
* sign
Kawhi Leonard max
Terrence Ross 3yr/36mil
Demarcus Cousins 1yr/15mil


Blazers out: Turner exp, Leonard exp, 25th pick
Blazers in: Gallinari


Kings out: Bjelica
Kings in: Turner, Leonard, 25th pick, Sixers 1st


13 Jun 2019 15:56:46
Kings say no.

13 Jun 2019 19:03:18
Agree. Eats up too much of Kings cap space to be able to sign a quality big man. Also, team doesn't have a lot of vacant roster spots either.

12 Jun 2019 14:27:00

OKC get Bjelica
SAC get Roberson 21st pick

For OKC it's simple they save 3.5mil in salary and get a floor stretcher.

SAC is not a big FA destination and they have some salary cap room so they take Roberson expiring contract which will be 3.5mil more than Bjelica so not to much more, and if he returns to his old self SAC could use a defensive ace so he would help them there. The big thing is SAC doesn't have a 1st round pick now they get a pick to help add young talent to their young core.

12 Jun 2019 15:23:56
Wow logical not star changing homer trade. Good job.

12 Jun 2019 18:42:56
It would depend on who is available at #21 for the Kings. This trade weakens the Kings big man depth which was already a weakness to begin with.

11 Jun 2019 18:15:37
Kings Off-season

C Nikola Vucavic 4 years $88 million

40- Louis King, SF
47- Joshua Obiesie, PG (Stash)

PG- De'Aaron Fox/Frank Mason III
SG- Buddy Hield/Bogdan Bogdanovic
SF- Harrison Barnes/Louis King
PF- Marvin Bagley/Nemanja Bjelica
C- Nikola Vucavic/Harry Giles

11 Jun 2019 23:42:33
Cool with the signings, hate the draft picks. There are several prospects I like at #40 but Bazley would be better than King in my mind.

Also, like J. Porter at #47. Big man depth is still an issue even with Vucevic signing.

At 60, looking at Caleb Martin.

Also, not waiving Farrell. May waive Mason.

Also, watching for salary dumps by OKC for #21 or MIL at #30.

10 Jun 2019 10:13:12

OKC: Kevin Love

Get Westbrook's buddy and hopefully make a formidable big 3 to compete


SAC: Steven Adams
sign Bojan Bogdanovic

Get a very good big man


CLE: Harrison Barnes (exp), Terrance Ferguson, 21st pick via OKC, 2020 2nd round pick OKC

10 Jun 2019 10:41:31
I like Love going to OKC, but they shouldn't trade Adams.

10 Jun 2019 15:17:05
Gasupo, in a dream world yea. but the salary wouldn’t work otherwise.

10 Jun 2019 17:08:18
They could make salary work without Adams but it probably wouldn't be a package Cavs would take. Schroder, Roberson, Grant, and Patterson all together is about 38-40 mil Roberson and Patterson are expiring them 2 together is about 15 mil. But this doesn't help Thunder lower their salary and i think that is their main goal right now.

10 Jun 2019 10:03:08

BOS: Mike Conley

MEM: Harrison Barnes (exp), 14th pick BOS

SAC: Gordon Hayward, Jonas Valanciunas (exp) & MEM 1st from BOS

10 Jun 2019 12:09:23
Conley will be 32 when the season starts and doesn't fit Boston's time line. The Celtics are not going to pay big for him. More likely they'll go cheap and grab someone on the level of Rubio, Payton or Reggie Jackson to buy time until they can get a big-timer on board.

10 Jun 2019 13:55:48
Super- celts want to win now.

10 Jun 2019 15:52:12
Why should the Kings and the Grizzlies do that? Hayward is right now on the level of an above average bench player but paid like a superstar. After seeing the Nets shed 18 million for 2 1st rounders the Celtics have to send minimum 3. But getting a quality player as well is crazy.

Summary: Grizzlies don't get enough for Conley and Kings way too less for taking Hayward.

10 Jun 2019 18:31:00
As a Kings fan, I would probably jump all over that. Still leaves the Kings about $15 mil in cap space to throw at Ariza or Oubre.

As for Nets using 2 1sts to shed salary, a large portion of that 2nd 1st rounder is price paid to get Prince in return.

11 Jun 2019 07:04:41
Kings jump all over this in a heartbeat.

08 Jun 2019 16:13:35
Pulling a bunch of different rumors together for one scenario.

Phoenix trades down from #6 for #8 and #17 from Atlanta

Nets S&T DLo to Phoenix for #17 and trade exception. Phoenix withdraws all QO so that they have the cap space. Use #8 to draft a PF/ C prospect.

Nets use caps space to sign Kyrie + and another max FA. Durant? Harris? Butler?

Kings sign Oubre for $10 mil/ per leaving themselves $25 mil for a shot at Vucevic/ Lopez or spend less on Dedmond.

Seems to fix a couple of teams ills.

08 Jun 2019 17:33:28
Why wouldn't phoenix just let nets sign max guys and then sign Russell outright. Russell already said he'd like to play with Booker, so they don't have to really worry about him signing elsewhere.

08 Jun 2019 19:17:19
Skills, because I wouldn't count out a team like Chicago, New York, Boston or even maybe even Orlando getting into the mix for signing DLo.

Also, I don't think moving down from 6 to 8 is going to jeopardize Phoenix's ability to draft a PF/ C prospect because I don't see Chicago drafting one at #7. But I can see Atlanta wanting to get ahead of Chicago if Culver is still on the board.

09 Jun 2019 01:46:53
Dont know why I left Dallas off the list of teams that may show interest on DLo.

06 Jun 2019 07:45:15

SAC get Capela & 2nd from HOU
A young center on a reasonable contract that will fit the team as they grow

Pg Fox
Sg Hield
Sf Bogdanovic
Pf Bagley
Ce Capela

UTA get Paul & Bjelica
Adds a point vet pg to lead the young team and additional shooter

Pg Paul
Sg Mitchell
Sf Ingles
Pf Crowder/Bjelica
Ce Gobert

HOU get Barnes, Favors, Exum, Allen, UTA 1st and SAC 2022 protected 1st rd pick

Pg Harden/Exum
Sg Gordon/Rivers
Sf Barnes/Allen/House
Pf Tucker/Pick
Ce Favors/Nene

06 Jun 2019 10:01:54
I like this for CP3.

06 Jun 2019 14:01:11
I was there until you said 2022 protected first from Sac.

Considering Houston doesn't own a second rounder until 2021, why don't they keep that, Kings keep their first, and Sac tosses in a couple of 2nd rounders to Houston.

06 Jun 2019 14:02:48
Kings aren’t giving up their only useable wing for Capela, and certainly not giving up a 1st rounder. If they want a marginal center they can just match whatever marginal offer WCS gets.

06 Jun 2019 14:24:16
I would much rather have Capella than WCS for starters.

The trade also creates and additional $17 mil in cap space for the Kings which brings their total up to $52 mil. Pretty sure the Kings can sign a wing since that is a full max + a rookie max offer. Durant + Porzingis if my dreams came true.

06 Jun 2019 20:24:40
I’m not a fan of it for Utah. Unless they can get Paul for basically expiring money, it just isn’t worth taking on that contract and giving assets up.

07 Jun 2019 01:02:58
@rkenne, I thinks its just Utah consolidating its trash and recycling it into something that might help them get pass the first round of the platoffs.

05 Jun 2019 22:56:38
Bit lengthy but here are my assumptions:
1) lakers don't want to give all their youngsters to Pelicans for AD.
2) Kawhi or KD would seriously consider lakers if Lebron wasn't there. They wouldn't say that but let's assume they would consider lakers if lebron is traded.

Based on this assumption, does lebron contract have positive or negative value considering length , size and age? If lakers were confident they could get Kawhi or KD shouldn't they trade lebron at any costs and keep their young talent?

For instance, to make money work, lakers would have to take back camp tracts that work, need shooters and don't want long horrible contracts

Lakers trade lebron
Kings trade bogi, bjelica, Barnes and two 2 Nd round picks.

May not sound like much for lebron but aren't the lakers much better with KD or Kawhi, Kuzma, Ingram, ball, and these players?

Kings do it for shot without giving away their top 3 players. Lakers get some shooting help. If people think it's absurd I'd like to hear a realistic scenario that lakers can get a great player under contract for lebron. Who would do that , and is that close to a title where they would give away a marquee player in prime?

05 Jun 2019 23:51:11
First and formost, as a Kings fan I want no part of Lebron on my team. I have seen no signs that Lebron can interact positively with young players. And I am not about to sacrifice the team's future for Lebron's now.

Also, i think you are overlooking something with your second assumption. KD + Kawhi may not want to play with Lebron. But they also do not want to play for a disorganized, talentless front office either. Jeannie Buss needs to put on her big girl britches and start leading that organization.

06 Jun 2019 14:05:04
I also am a kings fan and agree w not sacrificing future which is why I would never do it if Bagley hield or fox were involved. I think the allure of the lakers will continue despite the recent turmoil considering history, franchise etc. you think lakers wouldn’t do this if they knew Kawhi or KD would come without lebron on team?

06 Jun 2019 16:25:53
So yur assumption is the lakers don't want to trade their young talent for Davis even though they already offered pretty much every young player on the roster? Ok got it lmao.

05 Jun 2019 21:12:17
Pistons - Barnes and Giles
Kings - Drummond

Pistons draft Bol Bol
Kings sign Butler or Middleton to max

Bol Bol

Butler or Middleton

05 Jun 2019 21:32:14
I like that better for the Kings than spending the money on Vuc instead.

05 Jun 2019 22:12:13
I’ve been preaching this but Fredman is about to rain on this parade.

I don’t think it takes Giles to get it done nor do the Kings do it if it does take Giles. Getting off the years should be good enough for the Pistons.

Oh, and the FA thing just ain’t happening, no point in dreaming.

06 Jun 2019 00:10:24
Yup. Hard pass on Drummond.

Starting to lower the Kings sights to adding Ariza and Dedmond in FA. Kind of a worse case scenario.

05 Jun 2019 19:28:50
*If Irving leaves Boston and Barnes declines player option in Sacramento

SAC receives: Hayward, Horford

BOS receives: Package of multiple 2nd rounders (SAC has A LOT) and additional, minimal assets if needed (could add Bogdanovic if Boston adds a bit more to the trade)

SAC takes a chance on Hayward for 2 years and adds a PERFECT mentor to Harry Giles in Horford for at least a year. Part of the risk of taking on Hayward's deal is offset by including Horford - doesn't make sense for SAC to trade for one or the other IMO.

BOS frees up a ton of cap space ($63m owed to Hayward/Horford could be fully absorbed by SAC) on top of the space created by Irving's departure. They can become a player in the FA market (Harris? / Vucevic? / Randle?) and are able to stay the course with all of their future draft pick assets. Next year would be a year to build on and give Tatum and Brown the chance to make significant improvements.

03 Jun 2019 23:46:13
Quite possibly the funniest rumor I have seen to date.

According to NJ. com, Knicks trade down from 3 for 8 and 10. Then send #8 to Sacramento for . wait for it. WIllie Cauley Stein. LOL!

04 Jun 2019 05:55:36
Isn’t WCS a free agent? Why give up a top 10 pick for a S&T of a mediocre player?

Oh wait, cause it’s the Knicks.

04 Jun 2019 09:27:48
I am only agreeing with Bmiller because he’s right, it does sound like something the Knicks would do!

S&T makes absolutely no sense in this case, Knicks have the cap space to sign him to whatever amount they want. I like WCS, but not at the expense of playing time for Mitchell Robinson, or eating up valuable cap space.

04 Jun 2019 13:53:54
Think he is restricted so kings can match.

04 Jun 2019 15:26:22
Right, the draft pick is to persuade the Kings not to match since WCS is a RFA.

02 Jun 2019 16:53:23
SAC KINGS off season

$35 mil in cap space:

Plan A -》Vucevic 4yr/ $80 mil, last year PTO
Bogdanovich 4 yr/ $60 mil, PTO

Plan B -》B. Lopez 4yr/ $70 mil, PTO
Bogdanovich 4yr/ $60 mil PTO

Plan C -》Demond 3yr/ $40 mil
Mirotic 3yr/ $50 mil


#40 Samanic/ Edwards/ Okeke
#47 J. Porter/ T. Falls
#60 C. Martin (Nevada)

Fox/ Mason/ (Edwards)
Hield/ Bogdanovich/ (Martin)
(Bogdanovich) / Barnes
Bagley/ Giles/ Swanigan
(Vucevic) / (Porter)

That looks like a playoff team to me.

01 Jun 2019 05:07:10

*Assuming Barnes opts into next season, SAC renounces Cauley-Stein's RFA rights, and MIN matches any reasonable offer to Jones

SAC gets: Covington, Dieng

MIN gets: Barnes, Giles

Sacramento trades for fit / roster balance and signs Vucevic to a front-loaded max contract (or close to it, to give them better odds at signing him). Covington is a perfect fit, and the new roster would be a better fit for Vucevic post-trade (harder to spread the offense around a frontcourt of Barnes, Bagley, and Vucevic). Pick and roll between Fox and Vucevic would be pretty hard to stop.

Minnesota's new GM trades for flexibility / # of assets instead of betting everything on their current core. They get rid of Dieng's contract, and both Barnes and Giles can slide to the 4 spot when Saric goes to the bench. Even if Barnes walks after 1 year, his contract and Teague's contract will expire at the same time. That should give them cap space (or they'll be close enough to easily maneuver if needed) for a max contract FA in 2020.


Fox / Ferrell / Mason
Hield / Bogdanovic
Covington /
Bagley / Bjelica
Vucevic / Dieng / Swanigan


Teague / Jones
Wiggins / Okogie
Barnes / Bates-Diop
Saric / Reynolds
Towns / Giles

Both teams could also still use MLE / BAE to fill out their rosters, and MIN still has the #11 pick.

01 Jun 2019 06:05:36
Props, this is creative. I think it’s a no from both sides. I’m only doing this as the Wolves if i’ve made other moves to clear salary like moving Wiggins and Teague because otherwise I’m making myself worse in a year I hope to compete in. The Kings would entertain the idea, but I think Giles is one piece too far when taking back the Dieng deal.

01 Jun 2019 14:16:40
Yea, Giles kills it for the Kings. Now if we can substitute Giles for Bjelica or a couple of 2nd rounders, then the Kings would definately be in.

25 May 2019 06:54:13

SAC get Hassan Whiteside, James Johnson & 13th pick overall
- Kings try Whiteside. Additional 15mil salary but get a lottery pick this year
- sign Terrence Ross 3yr/36mil

Pg Fox/Ferrell
Sg Hield/Ross/Mason
Sf Bogdanovic/Johnson
Pf Bjelica/Bagley
Ce Whiteside/Giles

MIA get Harrison Barnes (exp)
- save money for this year and next

Pg Dragic/FA
Sg Richardson/Waiters
Sf Winslow/Jones Jr
Pf Barnes/Olynyk
Ce Adebayo/Robinson

25 May 2019 13:56:43
Not quite there. Would try to include Bjelica to Miami to help clean up the roster and compensate paying Johnson's second year. Would toss in the 2020 Houston/ GSW 2nd rounder to help make Miami take Bjelica.

Then would go after Bodganovich from Indiana instead of Ross as the FA signing.

25 May 2019 16:25:33
Would also give this somme serious thought if Nassir Little was still available at #13.

26 May 2019 17:24:27
Kings say no Bogdanovic and bjelica are the ones who could be potentially traded. Harrison Barnes resigns

23 May 2019 21:20:10
Clippers/ Celtics/ Indiana

Clippers get Hayward/ Yabusele/ R. Williams III/ McDermott/ 1st Round Pick 2019 via Sacramento (#14), 1st Round Pick 2019 (#18)

Celtics get Gallinari/ M. Turner/ J. Robinson

Indiana get J. Brown/ M. Harrell

What do you guys think about that?

24 May 2019 03:27:32
I love the Pacers but no way do the turn Mcbrick and Turner into Brown and Harrell. Also- I don't see how Harrell fits with Sabonis on court at same time. Already had that problem with Turner/ Sabonis last season. No spacing.

24 May 2019 06:45:25
They need to keep Turner but go after Harrell and donvan Mitchell and Lou Williams off bench. evans is gone get rid of young and McDermott for Harrell and williams then trade collision and someone to Utah for Mitchell that would make them really good and keep bojan b.

24 May 2019 14:37:51
As a Clippers fan, besides losing Harrell. I would not mind this at all. Still have cap space for a max free agent, yabusele would just be at the end of the bench, but a good shooter in mcdermott, and a young big and 2 1st this year that currently NBADraft. net has Shai's brother and bol bol selected with. I would not be mad.

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