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22 Sep 2022 14:40:28
Hawks send Capela, Bogdanavic and 1st Rd pick

Pacers send Turner and Hield

Hawks need to go all in. The Murray trade was good but they still don't have enough to get into 4th or better in the East.

Pacers retain a defensive anchor while they rebuild. Plus another 1st rounder.

Dukey99

1.) 22 Sep 2022 18:14:36
Not sure that Turner + Hield add anything more than what Capela + Bogdanovic bring to ATL. Not sure this trade gets ATL "into the 4th of better in the East" either.


2.) 22 Sep 2022 18:52:29
turner being able to space the floor gives their offense and pick and roll / pop and more options and unpredictability. also can unlock collins more as a roll man and turner never played with a pick and roll passer like trae nor has he had that type of spacing. Pacers should get a better return cappela and bogdonavich have less value to their team than others maybe send these to the lakers and get two unprotected firsts while taking on russ contract.


3.) 22 Sep 2022 19:02:29
I can see a Turner/ Capela swap with like 2-3 2nds coming from Atlanta, but losing a first and Bogdanovic for Hield isn't going to help them, despite how much I like Buddy.


4.) 22 Sep 2022 22:15:26
@Fredman I disagree. I believe Turners size helps in matchups that Capela struggle with. Turner is definitely a better perimeter defender and scorer. @AHooper is 100% correct Collins took a step back because Capela clogs up the lane because he can't make a dam layup. Bogi legs are gone Hield is a much better defender & better 3pt threat. Hield could be a starter if injury hit us in a long NBA season. I definitely think we could climb into the top 4 in the East with those upgrades. The contracts are even the only thing the Hawks would be losing are draft picks. The trade for Murray is "all in" move the draft will not be our friend for the next 5 years. We are locked into Trae & Murray extension. There is no turning back at this point. Go all and try to win a title with that squad. Capela & Bogi ain't gonna get you there.


5.) 23 Sep 2022 08:37:57
Turner better shot blocker, Capella better rebounder. Rather have the 5 rebounds than the 1 shot block.

Dukey said that Turner never played with P&R guard. That is false. P&R is about all Haliburton runs as a PG.


6.) 23 Sep 2022 13:44:49
Fredman haliburton got traded mid way through last year to Indy and Turner got injured. They haven't been playing together.


 

 

31 Jul 2022 18:56:22
Pacers trade Turner & Hield to Atlanta

Atlanta trades Capela, Bogdanavic, Okungru and a 1st rd pick

Dukey99

1.) 31 Jul 2022 20:04:32
Hield and Bogdanovic are about equal. Capela should have more value than Turner since the latter only has a year left. Why would Atlanta add a 1st plus the player who might have more value than anyone else in the deal?


2.) 31 Jul 2022 22:08:12
Great question. I think where we differ is Turner and Capela value. I don't value Capela as high value. He can't space the floor. I even value Turner as a more active shot blocker. I grade Hield over Bogdanavic who is 30 and especially because of injury issues. Also the Hawks foolishly extended capela so Indy would be on the hook for that and I know he is not a long term plan for them. I think a 1st evens the deal. But I definitely see your point. It's a legit position.


3.) 31 Jul 2022 22:29:54
I take this for Indy.


4.) 31 Jul 2022 23:06:27
Gasupo as a Hawks fan I would do it. I think the Hawks need to go "all in" and not half do it. I like Capela but his offensive limits clogs the lane and pushes John Collins further out. With a center like Turner you can spread the floor. Hield is more athletic than Bogdanavic and equal in shooting. I hate to lose Okungru but I don't think we resign him anyway. We would need to find his replacement with MLE money.


5.) 01 Aug 2022 00:21:08
Throw in John Collins and you have yourself a deal. Collins instead of Okongwu.


6.) 01 Aug 2022 01:43:13
No way @Shaqisback. John Collins will not be traded. The Hawks wouldn't trade Collins straight up for Turner let alone a 1st Rd pick ?.


7.) 01 Aug 2022 15:48:06
Okay @Dukey99. Have Atlanta up the ante and the trade should look like this: Capella, Collins, Bogdanovich, and 2 1sts for Turner and Hield.

You said they won't do Collins and a 1st, what about Collins and 2 firsts? LMFAO.


8.) 01 Aug 2022 17:21:32
You got jokes.


9.) 01 Aug 2022 19:41:52
@Dukey99 that I do, but you do as well if you think John Collins is worth a top 10 player. He isn't anywhere close to a top 10 player himself.


10.) 02 Aug 2022 12:52:15
Packaged with a player on a rookie deal and picks MIGHT get the Hawks into a Ben Simmons/ Draymond Green level of player.


11.) 02 Aug 2022 21:23:05
I definitely don't think Collins is worth a top 10 player. I said that's what its gonna take for the Hawks to trade him. And I don't blame them. He is a great "piece" which is why 20+ teams want him and his contract.


12.) 02 Aug 2022 21:25:00
Fredman the Hawks wouldn't want ben or Draymond I don't think their contracts fit their goals. The owners are cool with paying a little in the tax but not for marginal players.


 

 

30 Jun 2022 01:18:25
Great trade by my Hawks for Murray. Now lets go all in by trading:
Capela,Bogdanavic,Okungru 2024 1st Rd. Pick 2023 2nd rd pick

Suns send Ayton S&T and Crowder

Trae/rookie/vet minumum
Murray/Huerter
Hunter/Johnson
Collins/Crowder
Ayton/rookie/vet minumum

Dukey99

1.) 30 Jun 2022 01:44:47
Not legal for multiple reasons.


2.) 30 Jun 2022 05:36:13
So to make it legal @Nightcap. Ayton and Crowder for Capela and Bogadaovic. I know its not a even trade player value wise for the suns but based on the NBA sign and trade rules the suns are pretty much screwed. To be honest the suns would be better off letting Ayton walk. But they still would be over the cap with several roster spots to fill. About the only other offer would be Myles Turner straight up for Ayton but I dont think Indiana wants that type of money coming back. It will be interesting to see tomorrow.


3.) 30 Jun 2022 08:51:52
Still not legal for multiple reasons.


4.) 30 Jun 2022 12:29:26
Dukey how are suns screwed? You need to stop listening to idiots like Adrian woj. Only leverage ayton has is he has to sign deal. Supposedly so many teams were going to offer ayton the max, because phx wouldnt match. Yet now only 2 teams Orlando and the spurs even have enough money to mk the offer. And the latter just traded their best player to fully rebuild. If phx doesn't get an offer they like they simply match any offer and put him on the block at the deadline or next summer when they can get full salary back.


5.) 30 Jun 2022 12:58:44
Looking at Nightcap, "The force is strong in this one. " LOL.


 

 

27 Jun 2022 19:59:21
Atl/Nets/Lakers. Nets blow it up.

Atl sends 2023 1st rd pick and Collins to Nets and receive Durant

Lakers send Westbrook,Talen Horton and 2 1st rd picks to Nets

Lakers receive Kyrie S&T from Nets and Gallinari from Atl and triggers non guaranteed 16.5 million buyout.

Dukey99

1.) 27 Jun 2022 21:34:46
What kindve trade is this for the Nets lol. That’s Hawks offers is atrocious.


2.) 27 Jun 2022 23:51:33
yeah ATL needs to give up more for KD. probably like Collins, Huerter and multiple future picks even if they have to find a way to tap into the OKC pick keg to get them.

kinda like the Knicks did during the draft.


3.) 28 Jun 2022 00:12:18
Nets are getting Collins, Horton and 3 1st rd picks for Durant. Westbrook and Kyrie really dont have value because of the size of their contracts in conjuction with their production. No team but maybe philly & Lakers will take a shot at Kyrie right now. His trade value is low. So is Westbrook who is on an expiring contract next year. The nets will have westbrook cap space plus 3 picks to rebuild with. Name another team who is willing to deal.


4.) 28 Jun 2022 00:22:19
Not possible. Gallinari's contract has to be waive done by 6/ 29. Westbrook would have to opt-in before then (doubtful) and the 2029 draft picks (Lakers) are available to be traded until the start of the 22-23 season (July 1st) . Plus, Kyrie can not sign a S&T until after July 1st as well.


5.) 28 Jun 2022 05:16:04
Dukey trying to step on that ringring level.


 

 

26 Jun 2022 15:55:05
How to fix Atlanta roster.
Trade with Minnesota. Send Capela and Bogdanovic Minnesota send Deangelo Russell.

Trade with Phoenix Atl Sends Hunter, Huerter,Okungrwu,

Phoenix sends Ayton on S&T.

Atl triggers the Gallinari buyout

Trae
Russell
Johnson
Collins
Ayton

Dukey99

1.) 26 Jun 2022 18:04:57
RIP to perimeter defense.


2.) 26 Jun 2022 22:22:31
Only Hunter play perimeter defense out of the Atl players going out. Hawks would still have cap room to find defensive specialist to come off the bench. We can't have Huerter & Bogdanovic making 30 million at SG.


3.) 26 Jun 2022 23:22:16
Don't know if Minnesota has interest in Capella after they drafted Kessler.

This move would also destroy Minnesota's cap space next summer, and would leave then thin at PG.


4.) 26 Jun 2022 23:34:16
I also would do Capela and Bogandavic and a 1st

For Turner and Hield.


5.) 27 Jun 2022 01:11:54
Hunter Okongwu and Capela are the 3 best defenders on the team.


6.) 27 Jun 2022 11:49:55
I agree Carl06 I didn't know Minnesota drafted a center. It definitely would destroy their cap room with minimum return. However they don't Russell at 30 mil at pt guard. His fit has been terrible and they desperately want to move him. He is really a SG and no way on this earth will he be taking minutes from Edwards.


7.) 27 Jun 2022 11:54:25
True @nba16 they are the 3 best but we owe 72 mil to Capela, Schlenk screwed up & resigned Huerter with Deandre's money and Okungru is just a role defender that can play in spot minutes. The hawks need to consolidate all these 10-18 million dollar role players into bonafide 2 way player stars that can play alongside JC &Trae. Schlenk screwed this team up.


 

 

 

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22 Sep 2022 22:15:26
@Fredman I disagree. I believe Turners size helps in matchups that Capela struggle with. Turner is definitely a better perimeter defender and scorer. @AHooper is 100% correct Collins took a step back because Capela clogs up the lane because he can't make a dam layup. Bogi legs are gone Hield is a much better defender & better 3pt threat. Hield could be a starter if injury hit us in a long NBA season. I definitely think we could climb into the top 4 in the East with those upgrades. The contracts are even the only thing the Hawks would be losing are draft picks. The trade for Murray is "all in" move the draft will not be our friend for the next 5 years. We are locked into Trae & Murray extension. There is no turning back at this point. Go all and try to win a title with that squad. Capela & Bogi ain't gonna get you there.

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03 Sep 2022 10:51:23
Woj Reported Danny Ainge was willing to take a lesser deal than what Knicks offered because he didn't like the reports coming out of ny about how they were gonna get Mitchell.

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24 Aug 2022 13:04:34
As a Hawks fan I would do it value wise. Not sure if the salaries match. I don't see any value for Memphis or phoenix. I rather the Hawks go after myles Turner & buddy heild for Capela and Bogdanavic and 1st Rd pick.

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23 Aug 2022 11:57:02
So the Hawks give up their starting center and power forward for 2 role players and a 1st Rd pick?

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05 Aug 2022 18:20:50
So the Hawks trade a starting center for a backup guard? For what reason?

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