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15 Jul 2019 00:02:04
WAS/NYK

WAS get Bullock, Smith Jr, Trier, Ntilikina & 2 1st (own and DAL)

NYK get Beal

NYK

Pg Payton
Sg Beal
Sf Barrett
Pf Randle
Ce Robinson

15 Jul 2019 13:16:35
Orlando get Wall 2023 dal 1st
Wizards get Barrett Ellenson Bullock Augustin Fultz
Knicks get Beal.

14 Jul 2019 17:29:39
Ja Morant and Jae Crowder to Knicks

Dennis Smith Jr., Kevin Knox, Frank Ntilikina, and Damyean Dotson to Grizz

Knicks get player consolidation and more playmaking, Grizz get more scoring, defense, and young depth

Knicks:
J Randle
J Crowder
M Robinson
RJ Barrett
J Morant
Bench: Trier, Portis, M Morris, Payton, etc.

Grizz:
K Knox
B CLarke
Jaren Jackson Jr
Josh Jackson
D Smith Jr
Bench: Ntilikina, Dotson Anderson, Allen, Valanciunas, Iggy, etc.

14 Jul 2019 17:51:08
Nothing in that is worth Morant. Maybe if the Knicks included both Dallas picks or their own 2020 pick.

14 Jul 2019 18:02:41
Knox and Smith were bad last year and Ntilikina haven’t even shown the ability to be an nba player. Someone would have have to make a downright stupid offer just to get them to talk Morant.

14 Jul 2019 23:43:55
None of those Knicks players have any trade value.

13 Jul 2019 10:24:51
Thunder get Jackson, Winslow, Olynyk, 2022 Detroit 1st
***Buyout Jackson. Last time he played in okc, it didn't end well. Putting him back on the market would be mutually Beneficial. Saves the necessary tax dollars plus extra. Reggie could be a good pickup for a contender. Winslow and Olynyk are fine for this rebuild. The pick seals it.

Detroit gets Dragic, 2020 Chicago 2nd via okc
***Big upgrade at point. No future extra money as Dragic is also expiring. Could also play next to Rose. Going for it in the East. Little shakeup.

Miami gets Paul, 2020 Detroit 1st
***Rumored for Paul, and they add a first. Gives them an upgrade at point if He stays healthy.

Thoughts?

13 Jul 2019 14:43:52
So Detroit is giving up 2 first rounders for. Dragic? Come on, really?

13 Jul 2019 15:16:52
Jackson and TWO 1st rod picks for Dragic and a second rounder? Think Detroit is getting screwed here. Hard pass from Pistons.

14 Jul 2019 03:54:14
Detroit won’t give up firsts for Dragic. Maybe a second.

12 Jul 2019 17:06:32
Wizards get CP3

OKC get Wall, 2022 and 2024 unprotected 1st rounders

HEAT Moves
Sign Dwight and Trey Burke

HEAT : Beal,Covington, Bonga,

Wizards : Wiggins, Olynyk,Teague, Okogie, 2021 Wolves Pick and 2023 Heat Pick

Wolves : Dragic, Leonard, Waiters, Brown Jr

Winslow/Burke/Bonga
Beal/Herro/Robinson
Butler/Jones Jr/Okpala
Covington/Johnson/Maten
Adebayo/Howard/Haslem

12 Jul 2019 17:53:22
We get it. 3 teams get get screwed and the Heat get Beal. Get real. The Heat don’t have the assets unless they’re getting Wall and even then, the Wiz likely pass.

12 Jul 2019 20:12:27
Ah, Heat already traded their 2023 1st round pick.

Try to keep up.

12 Jul 2019 22:11:22
And because of the protections on the 2023 pick, Miami can only trade the "protected" portion of that pick to OKC.

12 Jul 2019 16:33:31
So in order for this idea to happen, the clippers would have to trade some cash/ 2nd rounder for a non guaranteed minimum/ rookie deal.

OKC gets James Johnson, Kelly Olynyk, Mo Harkless, Jerome Robinson, 2 future 2nds from Clippers

Miami gets CP

Clippers get Dragic

Dragic/ Beverley
Shamet/ Lou Will
Kawhi/ Mcgruder/ Mann
George/ Green
Zubac/ Harrell/ Kabengele.

12 Jul 2019 20:49:40
As a Clippers fan I like this trade it seems to work for everyone, but maybe I'm just being a homer.

12 Jul 2019 21:38:22
Clippers have picks left?

12 Jul 2019 13:32:12
Boston gets Adams and Olynyk

OKC gets Hayward, Johnson, Waiters and Boston's 2020 1st lottery protected

Miami gets Paul

The Celtics get the bigs that they need and they get out of Hayward's contract.

OKC gets off Paul, gets a pick, sends Adams to a competitive team, and takes a chance on Hayward maybe getting closer to where he was giving him value that can be flipped.

Miami gets off some bad money and gets a good guard.

12 Jul 2019 15:07:18
Hayward is obviously hardly untouchable, but the Celtics are not going to move him. Brown is another issue. He can be had for the right price.

12 Jul 2019 05:06:06
Boston gets Dragic and Olynyk

Miami gets Paul

Okc gets Hayward
***Ducks luxury tax, get out of a longer deal. He also fits better than Paul.

Gilgeous-Alexander, Schröder
Ferguson, Diallo
Hayward, Roberson
Gallinari, Patterson/Muscala
Adams, Noel

12 Jul 2019 12:19:06
Hayward is trash and his contract is just one year shorter. So cut Boston out and send Dragic and Olynik to OKC. In addition OKC can take on more salary after 2019/ 2020 for additional picks.

12 Jul 2019 14:16:34
Miami has to add an addition $6 mil in salary because they currently only have $1 salary cap space under the hard cap.

12 Jul 2019 02:49:41
HEAT : Beal, Wall, Covington

Wizards : Wiggins, Leonard, Teague, Okogie, 2 Picks

Wolves : Dragic, Olynyk, Waiters, Brown Jr

Wall/Bonga/Nunn
Beal/Herro/Robinson
Butler/Covington/Jones Jr
Winslow/Johnson/Okpala
Adebayo/Maten/Haslem

12 Jul 2019 03:42:08
Why does Minny get screwed?

12 Jul 2019 16:02:18
Swap Leonard and Olynyk.

11 Jul 2019 23:56:16
Miami, OKC (total rebuild & massive cap space move for 2021 free agency.

Miami gets Westbrook, Gillinari.

OKC gets Olynyk, Winslow, Waiters, Johnson, Dragic.

OKC is in prime spot in draft and once 2021 comes all those are gone.
OkC will have enough time pitch 3 max free agents.
Miami gets to secure a playoff spot and compete for Eastern conference supremacy. They lose shooters but gain one in gillinari.

10 Jul 2019 20:26:27
Miami gets Russ, Dre, Chicago 2020 2nd

Boston gets Dragic, Olynyk, Patterson

OKC gets Hayward, Winslow, Herro

SGA, Schröder
Herro, Diallo
Hayward, Ferguson, Nader
Gallinari, Winslow
Adams, Noel, Muscala

10 Jul 2019 20:46:43
Heat won't give up hero and justice.

11 Jul 2019 00:26:48
Boston doesn't want Olynyk back.

10 Jul 2019 14:13:31
If the Thunder wait til December, this is my dream deal for Russ. Before I start, no one would've said predicted the haul Presti got for George. So.

Atlanta gets Randle, Portis
***Randle could start at the 5 and give them a very complete lineup. Both are two year deals. Fits their timeline. Could see them make noise in the playoffs.

Knicks get Russel Westbrook, Patterson, Chicago 2020 2nd via Okc
***Russ in New York just seems like a match made in heaven. Plus, imagine the crosstown rivalry games vs the nets when KD comes back?

Thunder get Parsons, RJ Barrett, 2020 1st, 2021 1st (Dallas), 2023 1st (Dallas)
***Parsons expires with about $25M. Barrett and Shai could be great down the road. Add in all the picks, and they have the best treasure trove of assets in the entire league.

10 Jul 2019 14:40:45
Atlanta doesn't have the $10 mil avalable cap space to take on Randle + Portis new salaries. $35 mil vs. $25 mil for chandler.

10 Jul 2019 14:52:55
I would have predicted the haul they got for Paul George. He's a great player that can play with others, is a great defender, and is incredible versatile. All the things Westbrook isn't.

Also, Westbrook being locked in long term isn't great, for George it was a huge positive.

All that said, if anyone is going to massively overpay for Westbrook, it's the Knicks.

10 Jul 2019 17:17:37
Why does everyone keep bragging about what okc got? They got sga and some late first round picks that more than likely will amount to nothing. Okc could have prob got more. Clippers had to get George or Kawhi wasnt coming.

10 Jul 2019 17:30:02
The two Miami picks aren't guaranteed to be late. The Clippers picks at the end are after the George and Leonard contracts end, so who knows how good the Clippers will be. Look at how quickly teams fall apart.

Also, future firsts just have value. A couple years out firsts without protections are incredibly valuable.

10 Jul 2019 18:47:59
Best example of late picks. the Nets picks that Boston got for Pierce and Garnett.

10 Jul 2019 06:05:12
Oklahoma/Golden State/Miami

To Oklahoma/ D'Angelo Russell + Justise Winslow + Goran Dragic (exp)
* may trade Dragic to another team

Russell/SGA/Roberson/Winslow/Adams

To Golden State/ Tyler Herro + Danilo Gallinari (exp) + 1st round pick Miami 2025

Curry/Burks (Klay)/Gallinari/Green/WCS
Poole/Herro/GRIII/Smailagic/Paschall/Looney/Spellman

To Miami/ Russell Westbrook + Terrance Ferguson

Westbrook/Ferguson/Butler/Johnson/Adebayo
Waiters/Jones Jr/Okpala/Robinson/Olynyk

10 Jul 2019 04:35:23
Miami/Oklahoma/Cleveland

To Miami/ Russell Westbrook + Kevin Love

- reunite the old teammates and form a good contending team with Butler

- sign Livingston min, Noah or Gortat min,

Westbrook/Herro/Butler/Love/Leonard
Livingston/Waiters/Jones/Robinson/Noah or Gortat

To Oklahoma/ Justise Winslow + Collin Sexton + James Johnson + 2025 Miami 1st

- get a new look back court with Sexton & Alexander

Sexton/Alexander/Winslow/Gallinari/Adams

Schoeder/Diallo/Roberson/Nader/Johnson/Noel/Bazley/Muscala

To Cleveland/ Bam Adebayo + Terrence Ferguson + Goran Dragic (exp) + Kelly Olynyk + KZ Okpala + 2 2nd round picks Miami

- get a young center to grow with the team, losing Sexton might not be easy though.

Garland/Dragic/Osman/Olynyk/Adebayo
Dellavedova/Knight/Clarkson/Okpala/Porter/Nance/Thompson/Henson

10 Jul 2019 01:59:31
Heat - Westbrook
Thunder - Winslow Dragic Waiters and Okpala

Heat sign Livingston/Shumpert to vet min

Westbrook/Livingston
Herro/Shumpert
Butler/Smith Jr
Bam/Johnson
Leonard/Olynyk

09 Jul 2019 23:37:13
Wesbrooks best landing spots imo

Heat
Magic
Suns
Pistons
Knicks

- Heat can make an offer around Dragic and Winslow
- Magic can make offer around Fournier and Fultz/Isaac
- Suns can make offer around Rubio Johnson and picks
-Pistons can make offer around Jackson Snell and picks
- Knicks can maker offer around any free agent they've signed plus Smith jr

10 Jul 2019 00:46:22
I would be shocked if Presti trades Wesrbrook to Miami. He is not going to "weaken" those two Miami draft picks that OKC just got from the Clippers. Detriot is the team most likely to overpay for Westbrook.

10 Jul 2019 05:11:30
I think Dallas should throw their hat in the ring. I think they’re currently pretty clearly on the outside of the West’s playoff picture, but they’ve given all of their picks away so they have no downside to accelerating the process. If can Russ can do anything, it’s manufacture regular season wins. The team is super spaced out, so it would give Russ lots of room to work with. The Mavs are team that’s kind of tapped out on assets so they have no trade ammo to bring in a player of Russ’ pedigree normally. If the salary is on the backside of the contract is scary, there is no owner in the league who has discussed how he’s not afraid to spend money than Cuban. Finally, maybe the biggest point, I don’t think Russ would hamper Luka’s development due to Luka’s own pedigree, and that while Russ is frustrating his track record for what he does for his teammates is pretty freaking good, plus this is where having one of the most established coaches and one notoriously tough on Point Guards comes into effect.

09 Jul 2019 04:46:09
If knicks rescind on Gibson contract


They can trade offer Barrett Trier Ntilikina Smithjr Knox for Westbrook Nader Diallo Burton

Westbrook/Payton/Allen
Ellington/Dotson/Diallo
Bullock/Nadar/Burton
Randle/Portis/Brazdeikas
Dedmon/Robinson/T.Fall

09 Jul 2019 06:23:53
1) The Knicks already have a bad rep around the league so rescinding the contract would make that image ever worse for future Free Agents.

2) A significant overpay by the Knicks as they are giving up all their young talent except Robinson.

3) OKC take this trade in a heartbeat, they would be set up for the next 10 year with this sort of influx of young talent and draft picks in their 2 superstar trades.

09 Jul 2019 07:03:11
do you prefer Westbrook over Barrett and Knox?

09 Jul 2019 11:33:08
Yes,

A) Knicks are devoid of a second star, still would not be overly competitive.

B) Don’t think Russ has the personality to be a true leader.

09 Jul 2019 11:36:43
Dedmond signed by Kings?

09 Jul 2019 02:30:58
Miami/Oklahoma/Chicago deal

To Mia/ Russell Westbrook

star of a new era in Miami with 2 stars (Westbrook + Butler), they still have young guys like Herro and Adebayo to develop

Westbrook/Butler/Jones/Johnson/Adebayo
Waiters/Okpala/Olynyk/Leonard

To Oklahoma/ Justise Winslow, Kris Dunn, Christiano Felicio 1st round pick Heat (2025), 2 2nd round picks (MIA & CHI)

With Westbrook wanting out and eyeing Miami, this could be a good package given the amount of his contract. Although Thunder would not want to help the Heat, limited offers will be on the table so they might take it.

Schroeder/SGA/Winslow/Gallinari/Adams
Dunn/Ferguson/Diallo/Roberson/Patterson/Noel/Bazley/Felicio

To Chicago/ Goran Dragic

Dragic could start for a year giving a veteran leader and mentor to White. They could actually compete for a playoff spot if they stay healthy

Dragic/Lavine/Porter/Young/Markannen
White/Arcidiacono/Satoransky/Valentine/Carter/Gafford

09 Jul 2019 03:49:16
Failed ESPN trade machine. Chicago taking on too much salary since they are over the salary cap.

09 Jul 2019 07:50:29
Bulls might include Valentine to match salaries? giving him to Thunder.

09 Jul 2019 01:54:58
Heat Trade Goran Dragic

Knicks Trade Dennis Smith Allonzo Trier

Knicks receive Goran Dragic

Heat receive Dennis Smith Allonzo Trier

09 Jul 2019 02:16:00
Why for knocks? They expect to lose. Why give up 2 young guys for overpaid older guy?

09 Jul 2019 01:54:41
OKC rebuild

OKC/MIA/MIN

OKC get Wiggins, Winslow , 2 1st round picks MIN, 2025 1st from MIA, 2nd round pick MIA

MIA get Westbrook

MIN get Dragic (exp) & Roberson

MIA give Butler a partner
MIN gets rid of Wiggins

OKC/CHA

OKC get Biyombo (exp), & 2020 Lottery protected or 2nd rd pick

CHA get Schroeder

CHA have only Rozier to play the point, Dennis could be his back up

OKC/SAS

OKC get Forbes, Mills, Bellineli & Lottery protected 1st

SAS get Adams

Spurs can use a strong body inside


MIA

Pg Westbrook
Sg Herro/Waiters
Sf Butler/Jones
Pf Johnson/Leonard
Ce Adebayo/Olynyk

MIN

Pg Teague/Dragic
Sg Culver/Okogie
Sf Covington/Roberson/Bates
Pf Vonleh/Layman
Ce Towns/Dieng

SAS

Pg Murray/White
Sg Derozan/Walker/Johnson
Sf Carroll/Gay
Pf Aldridge/Morris/Samanic
Ce Adams/Poeltl

OKC

Pg SGA/Mills/Forbes
Sg Wiggins/Ferguson
Sf Winslow/Bellineli/Diallo
Pf Gallinari/Patterson
Ce Noel/Bazley/Biyombo

09 Jul 2019 02:16:44
Minny gives up 2 first to get rid of Wiggins? Pipe dreams.

08 Jul 2019 22:58:30
HEAT : Westbrook, Hardaway Jr, Burke, Nader

Mavericks : Dragic, Olynyk, Roberson, Diallo

Thunder : Herro, Waiters, Lee, Leonard, Jones Jr

Sign Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudemire

Westbrook/Burke
Butler/Hardaway/Robinson
Winslow/Nader/Okpala
Johnson/Stoudemire/Maten
Adebayo/Howard/Haslem

 
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