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20 Jul 2017 12:24:44
DEN/BKN

DEN get Jeremy Lin & 2nd round pick

* if Lin stay healthy, he'll be a huge addition and an upgrade on the PG slot

Pg Lin/Mudiay/Nelson
Sg Murray/Harris/Beasley
Sf Chandler/Barton/Hernangomez
Pf Millsap/Arthur
Ce Jokic/Plumlee

BKN get Kenneth Faried & lottery protected 1st round pick

* they lack at PF position , Faried immediately gives them energy on their young line up

Pg Russell/Dinwiddie/Whitehead
Sg LeVert/Kilpatrick
Sf Carroll/RHJ
Pf Faried/Booker
Ce Mozgov/Nicholson

20 Jul 2017 11:59:05
TOR/HOU/NY/BKN

TOR acquire Ryan Anderson , 2nd from NY & 2nd from BKN
- provide more spacing on the floor & Ibaka could play the 5

Pg Lowry/Wright/VanVleet
Sg Derozan/Powell
Sf Miles/Anouby
Pf Anderson/Siakam
Ce Ibaka/Noguierra/Poeltl

HOU get Carmelo Anthony & Spencer Dinwiddie

Pg Paul/Dinwiddie/Brown
Sg Harden/Gordon
Sf Anthony/Tucker
Pf Mbah Moute/Nene
Ce Capela/Hartenstein/Qi

NY get Jeremy Lin , Trevor Ariza (exp) , Trevor Booker (exp) & TOR 1st round pick (lottery protected)

Pg Lin/Nkitilina/Baker
Sg Lee/Hardaway Jr
Sf Ariza/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Pf Porzingis/Booker/Oquinn
Ce Hernangomez/Noah

BKN get 1st round pick from HOU , Jonas Valanciunas & Bruno Caboclo

Pg Russell/Whitehead
Sg LeVert/Kilpatrick/McDaniels
Sf Carroll/RHJ
Pf Nicholson/Acy
Ce Valanciunas/Mozgov

20 Jul 2017 16:44:47
If i'm houston i'm not giving up ariza, a person who will have assignments like kd and kawhi and he will feast off three's from cp3 and harden. And i'm not giving up anderson, a person who will also feast off passes from cp3 and harden. Rockers were good because they had a whole lot of 3 point snipers. I say those snipers aren't worth getting melo for. If u get melo u have 3 ball dominant players in cp3 harden and melo (a ball stopper) . Mike dantoni's system favors one ball handler (they already have 2) then a penetration and kick offense.

20 Jul 2017 11:15:46
Rest of Pelicans offseason

Melo trade

Pels get Ariaza

Knicks get Knight, Ajinca, Moore, Toupane, Quaterman, and Long and first rounder from Suns

Rockets get Melo

Suns get Anderson

Trade two

Pelicans get Troy Daniels with Buddy Hield trade exception

Trade three
Pelicans get Bellinelli

Hawks get Booker and Quincy P

Brooklyn get Hill, Asik(stretch) a first round pick top three 2018 and a second round pick 2020

20 Jul 2017 19:37:24
suns don't give up a first rounder fir Anderson, its a salary dump they would need more than just Anderson to give up a pick.

19 Jul 2017 14:18:22
boston: A Davis

NO: J Wall+D Green+ T Parker (release)+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2019

Was: JR Holiday+ 1rnd pick Nets 2018+ 1rnd pick Vancouver 2019+ 1rnd pick Spurs 2018 and 2020

Spurs: A Horford

19 Jul 2017 14:43:55
Beyond ridiculous that an aging, overpriced Horford, 2 mid to late firsts, and the nets pick gets you one of the top 5 players in the game who is under contract for 3 more years, and is only 25. Celtics are committing robbery.

19 Jul 2017 15:17:57
This trade is beyond stupid. The Pels give up AD for Wall basically. Nope.

19 Jul 2017 22:36:19
Boston fans need to stop thinking AD is coming, he's locked up long term and you don't trade locked up under 25 yr old top 5 player. keep dreaming Boston fans, go have another sam Adams.

20 Jul 2017 02:30:00
Agree with all the comments. Washington isn't moving Wall unless he asks out at some point, Davis is even less likely to get moved, and Boston isn't giving any where near enough in this trade to get anyone's attention.

The Wizards are the 3rd best team in the East and are still pretty young. The Pelicans have a chance to be solid this year and even if they aren't they have time to blow
It up and build around Davis.

19 Jul 2017 02:13:10
Pelicans get Melo Lee Noah N.Hayes
Wolves get Moore
Nets get Asik L.Thomas Pelican 1st
Knicks get Rondo Lin Carroll Solomon Aldrich

Pelicans might have best starting 5 can be sleeper team to beat warriors.

Holiday/Jackson/Cook
Lee/Crawford/Toupane
Melo/Cunningham/Pondexter
Davis/Motiejunas/Hayes
Cousins/Noah/Ajinca

Nets add a pick, save money fill team void at backup SF and Center

Russell/Whitehead/Dinwiddie
Lavert/Kilpatrick/Goodwin
Jefferson/Thomas/Harris
Nicholson/Booker/Acy
Mosgov/Asik/Allen

Knicks fill their void PG and SF. At the cost of Melo and Lee, get rid of Noah. Get better contracts.

Rondo/Lin/Ntilikina
Hardaway/Dotson/Baker
Solomon/Carroll/Kuzminkas
Green/O'Quinn/Kornet
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Aldrich

Wolves add sg, at cost of Aldrich
Teague/Jones/Fa
Butler/Moore/Fa
Wiggens/Muhammed/Rush
Gibson/Payne/Bjelica
KAT/Dieng/Patton

18 Jul 2017 19:10:48
The 76ers get Crabbe and Toronto 2018 pick via Brooklyn

The Pistons get Harkless, Nurkic, 2018 Portland 1st and 2 2nds from Philly

The Trail Blazers get Drummond

The Nets get Okafor and Leonard

The 76ers get rid of Okafor for a 1st and a sg who could provide depth this year and take over for Reddick next year

The Pistons get to retool. Harkless and Nurkic are both solid young players and they get a few picks to play with.

The Nets get 2 solid young players for what will likely be a late first. They get to buy fairly low on two players that have some potential.

18 Jul 2017 19:52:54
The Trailblazers shed salary and get a big who could turn into a legitimate 3rd allstar and defensive anchore for them.

18 Jul 2017 20:12:36
Portland is way too high on Nurkic to come anywhere near that. I think Portland values him as high (or higher) than Detroit values Drummond.

18 Jul 2017 20:25:55
Two issues here, first, the sixers aren't getting rid of okafor and snagging both a 1st round pick and crabbe, who is an actual quality SG, albeit on an expensive contract.

Second, did you really just say drummond will be the defensive anchor for the blazers?

While with Portland, Nurkik was incredibly positive on both ends of the court. Seriously. his on/ off with Portland was incredible.

Drummond? His team was offensively a bit better with him off the court. however, defensively, Drummond was literally the worst center in the league. While on, Opponents had an offensive rating of 111, when off, 101. Seriously. hysterical. defensive anchor. what a nut.

19 Jul 2017 00:05:38
Drummond is a bad defender but unlike someone like Okafor I think he has the physical tools to be a good and borderline great defender. Although he is still quite young at only 23 he has spent 5 years in the NBA and hasn't really improved on the defensive end at all. That is alarming and likely due to his "lack of motivation" which caused him to slide to #9 in the draft but could also be due in part to coaching.

I was a fan of Portland getting him before they got Nurkic but after they got him and he played well for them I doubt they take the risk going after Drummond. I believe Drummond has a higher upside than Nurkic. One thing that could factor in however, is that Nurkic is in the final year of his contract and with Portland already in the luxury they may prefer a deal like this that would allow them to shed some salary for the future (as opposed to keeping Crabbe, Leonard and Harkless then having to give 15 mill+ to Nurkic in RFA) .

19 Jul 2017 14:12:44
Depending on what you look at, he has mixed reviews defensively. Looking up his real plus minus on defense, it has him at 29, but fox sports defensive ratings have him as the 4th overall defender (their ratings favor big men) . The truth is probably somewhere in between. He has the size, athleticism and raw abilities to be monster on the defensive end. He's a solid help defender, shot blocker, and defensive rebounder. If he can improve perimeter/ post defense he could be really good and he has the size, strength, and athleticism to do it. He has more upside than Nurkic.

18 Jul 2017 17:56:59
POR-NYK-HOU-BKN

Portland gets- Ryan Anderson, Joe Harris

New York gets- Evan Turner, Trevor Booker, Pat Connaughton, Isiah Taylor, Shawn Long, 1st rd pick (HOU)

Houston gets- Carmelo Anthony

Brooklyn gets- Allen Crabbe, Noah Vonleh, 2nd rd pick (POR)


What's your thoughts?

18 Jul 2017 19:02:06
Not bad for Portland since they drop salary and currently have the highest payroll in basketball. Anderson could be solid for them

New York turns it down. They won't take on turners contract and nothing there really enticed them to do it.

Ok for Houston

I'm not sure Brooklyn does this. They get some fairly young talent, but that's a basically takes up the rest of their cap space the next two years.

18 Jul 2017 19:14:55
I agree it takes up their cap space for the next few years, but the Crabbe contract is only one year longer than Mozgov/ Carroll, plus they tried signing Crabbe when he was a RFA.

18 Jul 2017 19:18:01
Also the NYK were trying to sign Turner when he was a FA.

18 Jul 2017 19:51:27
The Knicks were going in a different direction at the time, they most likely didn't offer 18 million a year for 4 years, and Turner's value has value has dropped since his play has been subpar since he joined Portland

Brooklyn had more space when they made the last few moves, they ended up getting a player with allstar potential in the Mozgov deal, and Carroll's contract isn't as big as the other 2s and they still landed a 1st. I'm not saying it's unthinkable that they would do it, but I would think they would want to keep cap space open in case they can sign a restricted free agent with up side next year.

It's a lot of salary to take on for 2 players who's upside looks at best like a solid starters and most likely will turn into a 3 and d shooting guard and an end of the rotation big.

18 Jul 2017 20:56:34
literally, the knicks would be better off just buying out melo. Turner is a role player that should be making half what he does. Melo, if kept by the knicks, will opt out after this season and the knicks will have that cap relief. This trade just screws them for a few more years, and at least melo provided production, turner sucks.

18 Jul 2017 23:03:00
Hamburger is right. Anthony has little value and it will cost Knicks to just get rid of him. But having Turner, a former Celtic, would make NY better.

18 Jul 2017 15:41:25
Nets Randle Deng future 2nd rd pick

Lakers Cap

Nets get Randle takes Deng contract since they missed out on free agents

Russell
Lin
Deng
Randle
Mosgof

18 Jul 2017 16:42:27
If it took Russell to get rid of Mozgov it'll take significantly more to move Deng. Russell is a better prospect than Randle as he can play either guard position where Randle is an old-fashioned offensive big man that doesn't have prototypical center size. Randle is also entering the final year of his contract and will get a significant pay raise in RFA. Deng's contract is also bigger than Mozgov's and Deng is older.

18 Jul 2017 23:22:54
Well that's not entirely true

It took Russell to get rid of Mozgov, but they also got back B Lopez and #27 pick. Let's not pretend BKN didn't give up any assets in that trade.

In this scenario, they give up nothing except cap space. However, they only have $16.5M in cap space and can't take Deng and Randle w/ out sending a player marking at least $5M.

17 Jul 2017 17:48:44
Moore and Ajinca for Terrance Ross

Solomon Hill for Marco Bellinelli

Omer Asik and Axel Toupane to the nets

Quincy P to the sixers

16 Jul 2017 10:50:14
Final Pelicans moves

Trade #1

Pels - Danny Green SG/ SF

Spurs - Quincy Pondexter (waive) Alexis Ajainca, 2nd round pick

Pels get a spot up shooter while Spurs clear cap to resign Pau Gasol

Trade #2

Pels - Wil Barton SG/ SF

Nuggets - Future Protected 1st Round

Trade #3

Pels - Future protected 2nd round

Nets - Omir Asik (stretch waive) 2018 top 10 protected pick

Nets gain a first rounder while Pels clear cap

Sign Maurice Speights 3 yr 24 million

Pels lineup

PG - Holiday - Rondo - Jackson
SG - Green - Moore - Crawford
SF - Hill - Barton
PF - Davis - Diallo
C - Cousins - Speights.

17 Jul 2017 15:58:57
Spurs aren't giving up Green for that. And I'm a Pels fan.

15 Jul 2017 20:13:53
Celtics are the clear favorites to land Anthony Davis if the Pelicans decide to trade him. It all depends on this season. If the Boogie-AD project didn't work, the Pels will look to trade him and Rebuild. Davis is also a big fan of Gordon Hayward.

Trade:

Celtics get: Anthony Davis

Pelicans get: Jaylon Brown, Marcus Smart, Marcus Morris and Aaron Baynes + 18 Nets Pick, 18Lakers/19 Sac Pick and 19 Grizzlies Pick.

15 Jul 2017 21:19:26
Why is it that Celtics fans live in a 24 hour Fantasy land?

15 Jul 2017 22:35:50
Yes, the C's have the resources to get him, no, the Pels aren't dealing him.

16 Jul 2017 02:38:55
So the. They don't have the resources to get him.

16 Jul 2017 05:25:24
Even though we have the assets to trade for him, it would mean we would have no bench and deplete our stash of picks. Plus even if the AD, Cousins pairing doesn't work I doubt AD is the one that will get moved, AD is a better all around player but he is the face of that team. I am a Celtics fan and don't get me wrong I would love to have Davis on the team but I think it would take a lot and it probably wouldn't be worth it to trade for him, even if he became available.

16 Jul 2017 13:21:37
I'm a Celtics fan. that's unrealistic. The only way Davis gets moved is if he asks, and I just don't see that. If anything, you should be looking at a trade for Cousins. which IS actually something that could happen, and he could be had for a much lesser package. The Brooklyn 1st and salary would likely be able to get it done at that point, as it would still be an upgrade from what they sent out to get him. He'd be on his last year however, and you'd have to throw him into the mix of guys needing to get paid next season.

16 Jul 2017 13:28:17
You'd have to think it would be Crowder, Morris (can't be traded until September, but NO will try the twin tower experiment at least that long) and Smart as the pieces heading to NO. Does a starting lineup of IT, Brown, Hayward, Horford and Cousins have what it takes to win it all this year? Your bench would be Rozier, Baynes and mostly rookies, which does come into play.

17 Jul 2017 16:07:24
@Hamburger It is not that they do not have resources. But unless you are in total rebuild you do not trade a handful of pieces for a Superstar. Pels did not bring Cousins in to enter a rebuild phase.

15 Jul 2017 04:12:58
Knicks/ Nets

To NYK - Dinwiddie

To BRK - O'Quinn

Knicks get a young Point Guard with some NBA experience to split time with Ntilikina. They also clear a big from their front court logjam.

With the addition of Russell, along with Lin and Whitehead, the Nets have a logjam at the point. They're also thin up front and get some quality help with this deal.

15 Jul 2017 05:14:13
Nah rather trade Noah for Lin.

15 Jul 2017 14:44:20
Won't get the Noah for Lin done without including a pick, which the Knicks would not be interested in doing.

14 Jul 2017 15:14:13
Bucks Rockets

Henson,Mirza and 2nd rd pick for Ryan Anderson

Bucks Knicks

Monroe and Vaughn for S/T D Rose and 2 2nd rd picks

Bucks Nets

Hawes and 2nd rd pick for Archie Goodwin Waive

Sign Tim Kempton from Summer league
Sign Stephen Zimmerman from Summer League
Resign Terry
Resign Beasley

Rose,Brogdon,Payton
Middleton,Terry,Koenig
Antetekoumnpo,Snell,Beasley
Anderson,Wilson,Parker
Maker,Kempton,Zimmerman

14 Jul 2017 18:47:39
HAHA wait, so the knicks agree to do a sign and trade with an UFA in rose. in order to take back monroes waste of a contract. but in order to do that, the KNICKS have to give 2 second rounders?

am i missing something here? They have to pay to help out?

14 Jul 2017 22:55:43
Hi Mancerei000 Again, Nice try.

But The Bucks Still say NO!

14 Jul 2017 04:45:49
Nets-Twolves


•Nets get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st
-Waive Cole Aldrich
-Sign Alex Len 3yr 22m
-Sign Brandon Rush 1yr minimum
Lineup:
PG: Russell, Whitehead, Dinwiddie
SG: Lin, Kilpatrick, Goodwin
SF: Carroll, LeVert, Rush
PF: RHJ, Booker, Nicholson
C: Len, Allen, Mozgov

•Twolves get Joe Harris, Quincy Acy, and a 2018 2nd
-Sign Arron Afflalo 1yr 3.2m
-Sign Isaiah Canaan 1yr minimum
Lineup:
PG: Teague, Jones, Canaan
SG: Wiggins, Crawford
SF: Butler, Afflalo, Harris
PF: Gibson, Bjelica, Acy
C: Towns, Dieng, Patton.

14 Jul 2017 12:43:41
If Minnesota wouldn't trade the OkC first for CJ Miles, whey aren't trading it for 3rd stringers.

14 Jul 2017 03:04:26
Bleacher Report proposed offer where NYK gets Melo and MIL gets Anderson.
HOU gets: F Carmelo Anthony
MIL gets: F Ryan Anderson, second rounder (HOU)
BKN gets: C John Henson, G Rashad Vaughn, second rounder (HOU)
NYK gets: F Mirza Teletovic (two years remaining), G Joe Harris (expiring), C Spencer Hawes (expiring), G Tim Quarterman (non-guaranteed, F Shawn Long (non-guaranteed), 2018 top-20 protected pick from MIL, 2020 top 3 protected 1st from HOU

Makes a lot of sense. MIL gets the shooter in Parker's absence for two guys who don't play on the roster, shed Teletovic, and avoid the luxury tax, all for one protected 1st and they should be a definite playoff team. BKN just needs guys who might be able to play so taking a rim-protector in Henson and a 3pt shooter in Vaughn for nothing is worth a shot and getting an additional second rounder should seal that. Knicks take back one long term deal but get two late firsts and that might be all they can get for Melo considering the NTC he has. Rockets get their guy to try and contend for a title without giving up Gordon, Ariza, Capella, and more than one first so they are the winners.

13 Jul 2017 07:05:58
Cavs Nets

Cavs receive
Carrol
Lin
Kilpatrick
Hollis-Jefferson

Nets receive
Love
Shumpert

13 Jul 2017 13:09:13
A smh idea.

12 Jul 2017 19:31:43
Knicks - E. Davis, T. Ariza, M. Harkless, port 2018 1st rd pick

Houston - Melo

Trailblazers - R. Anderson, J. Lin


Brooklyn - A. Crabtree, Hou 2018 1st rd pick, Aminu

12 Jul 2017 20:51:11
I wouldn't give up a first, three nice role players, and one overpaid role player for Anderson and Lin. Take out the first and it's probably more likely.

12 Jul 2017 19:17:52
nets- R. Anderson E. Gordon

knicks- J. LIn T. Booker

rockets- Melo

salary match.

12 Jul 2017 19:37:53
How does that fit into either Brooklyn or NY's plans to rebuild? There is no logic in it for anyone except Houston.

09 Jul 2017 02:28:04
Some trades to improve the Timberwolves:
Tell me which are good and the most realistic


1. Twolves-Nets
Twolves get Justin Hamilton and Joe Harris
Nets get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st

2. Twolves-Knicks
Twolves get Lance Thomas and 2018 2nd
Knicks get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st

3. Twolves-Suns
Twolves get Jared Dudley and 2018 2nd
Suns get Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st

4. Twolves-Kings
Twolves get Garrett Temple and 2018 2nd
Kings get Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st.

09 Jul 2017 05:05:14
Don't like the first 3. 4th better.

09 Jul 2017 14:06:47
1st done can't get done. Hamilton in T. O.

09 Jul 2017 14:08:47
#1 can't happen now. Raptors traded D Carrol. future 1 and 2nd rounder's for Hamilton. Brooklyn hasn't learned about not trading 1st rounder's yet.

I think after signing Crawford the Wolves are going to cool it for a bit, they've been very busy this off season.

08 Jul 2017 23:07:54
Now that Hardaway is Knicks 😏

Nets get Gordon Hartenstein

Cut payroll add for future

Russell/Whitehead/Dinwiddie
Gordon/Lavert/Kilpatrick
Jefferson/Harris/Acy
Nicholson/Hartenstein/Vezenkov
Mosgov/Allen/Hamilton

Rockets get Melo Noah cut Goodwin Randle sign Foye M.Ellis vet min

Challenge warriors

CP3/Ellis/Taylor
Harden/Foye/Quartermann
Melo/Tucker/Kelly
Capella/Long/Qi
Nene/Noah/Anuaku

Knicks get R.Jackson T.Harris Anderson

4 new younger starters with zinger with big salary that he can grow with

Jackson/Ntilikina/Buycks
Hardaway/Dotson/Baker
Harris/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Anderson/O'Quinn/Hayes
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Kornet

Piston get Lin Lee Ariza Booker

They cut future payroll with quality talent while they fill there roster

Ish/Galloway/Lin
Lee/Bradley/Kennard
Ariza/Johnson/Gbinje
Ellenson/Booker/fa
Drummond/Leuer/Marjanovic

09 Jul 2017 00:54:35
Rockets aren't challenging the Warriors with that lineup. Offensively you have to figure they'd be able to get it done even with Nene and Capella both very limited offensively since they have best pure point guard in Paul and two of the best iso scorers in NBA but that team would get killed defensively.

I really don't think a trade for Melo makes sense for them since they'd have to give up more than Anderson which hurts their depth which is weak as is. Similar situation with Cavs. I think both should wait for a buyout and then try and sign Melo.

09 Jul 2017 05:08:26
No thank. pistons.

09 Jul 2017 15:16:01
Jaw Phil Jackson got fired so Melo never gets bought out. Dolan said it himself. Harden can carry them all yr. If CP3 and Melo get plenty of rest, they will match curry and Durant in finals offensively. They just can't sustain it all season. Bench is solid. Don't sleep Noah. Noah's salary is bad he may never be 30 min guy every night but off the bench on 50-60 win team he is a monster and leader with hustle.

09 Jul 2017 16:10:32
That's all well and good jaw. But Knicks have no reason at all to buy him out. Literally none. They know it and Knicks know it. So a trade will happen.

I'd love a trade like

Melo and Noah for ariza Anderson and Gordon.

Melo replaces Anderson at pf and improves offense and defense. Gordon is a third option anyways due to Paul and harden. And ariza is just. there.

Basically works salary. And would be an amazing turn around for the Knicks.

But knowing the Knicks. They trade melo for Anderson and some other awful contract just to make fans more depressed.

09 Jul 2017 19:15:33
Might have to add Lee and Kelly hamburger. Swing Gordon a pg Jackson make sense.

 
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