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21 Nov 2017 17:45:37
Trade deadline

Cavs - Clippers

Cavs gets:
Future 2nd round pick

Clippers gets:
2018 1st from Nets (via Cavs)

Cavs go all in this year and help their defense with DeAndre and help their bench with Williams. Both are expiring so it's a big risk, but another championship in Cleveland may be the only thing that keeps LeBron next year.

Clippers does this trade if they won't make the playoffs and tries to find a star in the draft next year. Griffin have 5 years left on his deal and finding some youth to pair with him wouldn't be the worst thing.

21 Nov 2017 19:23:35
If the Cavs are giving up the Nets pick, I think it would have to be Beverly as a sweetener rather than Williams. The Cavs have to many to feed on the offensive end as it is and struggle on defense. Williams isn't a player that's going to give them something the combination of IT, Lebron, Rose, Wade, Korver, and Jr don't already give
them and he's not going to help on the defensive end. Jordan is significant upgrade over TT, but I don't think it's enough to get the Nets pick from the Cavs unless it comes with another elite defender that would close up the finals holes left on the roster.

20 Nov 2017 21:31:44

Suns trade Monroe, Daniels, 2nd rounder for Thompson, Smith and Nets pick (plus trade exception).

Cavs get 9 million in cap space which they can possibly use to acquire another player, a frontcourt and SG upgrade to make another run at the title while they still have LBJ.

Suns get 30 million in bad contracts for three years in exchange for a top 10, possible top 3 pick.

20 Nov 2017 21:46:09
Wow, that’s horrible. You can’t get the nets pick for just a salary dump.

20 Nov 2017 22:24:39
I assume you forgot Booker and Jackson in the trade?

20 Nov 2017 23:58:52
No way Cleve makes this deal and PHX wouldn't either. Thompson is a R. Paul client (bad blood there), Smith is not the kind of veteran a team like PHX needs, or wants. Mostly, though, the draft pick won't move in a deal like this.

21 Nov 2017 01:59:38
Even with bad fits and bad blood, Phoenix makes that trade all day. They could easily flip Thompson, and might be able to flip Smith (at least for a bad contract with a better attitude) .

21 Nov 2017 15:13:09
No way Cavs give up the Nets pick for that. Even if that pick ends up conveying around 7-10th, it's still too much to give up for that package.

Also, while I'm not the biggest fan of either Thompson or Smith, they are not "salary dump" players. They're both solid contributors on contracts that are a little more than what they should be, but they're not the Jo Noah's of the L either.

23 Nov 2017 03:44:49
The suns have no interest in acquiring tristan thompson. Reasons are obvious.

19 Nov 2017 10:48:59
Miami: Dudley+ T Chandler+ B Knight+ return miami pick 2018 and 2021

Phoe: H Whiteside+ Booker+ Mudiay

Denver: Dragic+ 1rnd pick Bucks

Nets: Farried+ 2rnd pick OKc (from Suns)

Miami has little future, playing for the eight spot. They take contracts for draft picks. They already have some young talents, so they can go for a total rebuilt.

Phoenix get a good defensive center, a young pointguard and capspace

Denver get a good pointguard that can lead that team and an extra draft pick

The Nets get an exciting player and an extra draft pick

20 Nov 2017 16:49:07
Don't think Miami is in the market for a rebuild after all the money they just spent on signings this offseason.

18 Nov 2017 16:56:11
The Cavs get Delly, Beverly, and Jordan

The Bucks get Shumpert, Lou Williams, and Griffin

The Clippers get Frye (waive), Teletovic, Osman, Zizic, Thompson, Brogdon, Maker, Parker, and the Brooklyn 1st

18 Nov 2017 20:13:28
The Clippers should go in a rebuilt mode indeed.

The Cavs take a big gamle, they risk to lose IT, LBJ and Jordan, all for nothing and they don't have the Nets pick anymore for a rebuilt.

18 Nov 2017 21:05:41
The Bucks say No! No way Milwaukee is trading, Brogdan, Maker, or Parker. Maybe Dellavedova, Teletovic, And Vaughn? The Clippers are sure getting a lot, 9 players and waive one? ) While NOT giving up much? Milwaukee doesn't need Shumpert, Williams or Griffin. (They give up 5 players to get 3 back? ) They need a Center (Okafor? ) . The Cavaliers need all the help they can get!

19 Nov 2017 00:04:21
Dark side, the Bucks desperately need a second star or they're going to end up like the Cavs during the first Lebron era and Giannis will walk.

19 Nov 2017 09:45:03
Agree with bucks needing another star or Giannis could walk like to see durant giannis and Unicorn on the same team sky is the limit.

19 Nov 2017 14:48:44
@ rkenne_16, Agreed, Bledsoe was suppose to be it. But, I don't think Shumpert, Lou Williams or Griffin is the answer. Where would Griffin play? Giannis is now Milwaukee's PF, When Parker gets back, he will be the SF. I would like to see the Bucks trade Vaughn and a 2nd. rd. pick to the 76ers for Okafor. They need a Center. Henson is just a tall skinny PF playing Center, as is Maker. Give the Bucks some time. Bledsoe just got there. Middleton hopefully will pickup his game, as will Snell. Then Parker will be back. Milwaukee does need a 2nd star, (If that's what you want to call it) but, They need a center first.

19 Nov 2017 14:59:02
@ rkenne_16, Who is the "2nd star" at Cleveland? Love? I Thomas? Tristan Thompson? J R Smith? Give Milwaukee some time, Let them get a Center (Okafor) Let Brogdan (ROY) work with the 2nd team. Milwaukee doesn't need a 2nd star, They need to work as a team. One player can score 20-30-40-50-60. If the team isn't playing, it doesn't matter. let's see what Parker does when he gets back (Feb? ) He was suppose to be the 2nd "Star" before.

19 Nov 2017 17:15:23
Irving was the second star and IT can become the second star.
And Love is a great PF, he's still a star.

19 Nov 2017 17:31:03
Darkside, I would take IT or Love over any player other than GA on the Bucks roster. Middleton and Bledsoe are good, but not allstars. Brogdon could be a star, but he doesn't look like a high upside guy and I'm fairly sceptical that Parker can even get back to where he was. Plus, someone is giving him a fairly big contract in the offseason no matter what. It seems like a fairly big roll of the dice for the Bucks, who might have cap problems fairly soon.
Griffin would clearly be the 2nd best player on that team and maybe the best 2nd option in the East. There is no reason to think he can't start at the 5. There aren't many centers in the league who will physically over match him and he would be a nightmare for opposing centers to deal with on the perimeter.
Henson is clearly a center in today's league (a career back up center, but look at the pfs on decent teams, Henson doesn't have the offensive skill to matche them and will struggle defensively on the perimeter) and while Maker looks like he has the skills to develop into a pf, his best position at this point.

19 Nov 2017 17:54:18
Irving WAS the second star, (Gone, expendable) I Thomas will NOT be a great PG, just a PG. Love might be a Good PF but, NOT a great! Right now, Love is playing Center, And he's NOT a great one! Still a Star?, Or just another option? If L. James leaves, Cleveland will become what they were when James left the first time. Just another team in the East. And nothing more. Young players don't have a chance in Cleveland. What's the average age there? 30-34? Bottom line, Cleveland needs all the help they can get, Then let them play.

19 Nov 2017 18:19:10
rkenne_16, Any other player? You would take IT or Love for? WOW! Well I guess we all have our favorites. IT will see what Irving was talking about when he starts playing. I don't know about Brogdan and Parker, I have to see Parker play a full season without getting hurt. Brogdan was ROY last year, Now plays with the second unit, So, Will have to see? Griffin is a 6'9" PF. I don't see him as a Center anywhere? 2nd best option in the East? There are still Centers Gasol (Brothers) who would more than match up with him, he's too short for todays Centers, and more Centers Also shoot from outside. Henson and Maker are tall PF's and nothing more. No offensive skills, (Maker's 3 pointers? ) And Henson's left hook? Well, I guess we just have different views. That works for me.

19 Nov 2017 18:19:59
Love has been an allstar 4 of the last 7 years, including last year and one of the years he missed most of the season.

IT has been an allstar the last 2 years, was an MVP candidate last year, and the best player on the 2nd best team in the East.

Take Lebron off of the Cavs and if they can stay relatively healthy, they make the playoffs. The team would have little upside and would be better rebuilding, but a starting line up of IT Jr Crowder Love and TT with a bench of Rose Shumpert Korver Green and Frye makes the playoffs. If you take Giannis off the Bucks, you have a team similiar to the Suns.

19 Nov 2017 18:55:28
Darkside any player on the Bucks roster other than Giannis, not any player in the league.
Blake is 6 10 250 ( the average height of an nba center take from the combine is 6 11 and almost no NBA centers have Griffins leaping ability) He's not going to get pushed around by many Centers and on the offensive end, how many centers have the skill on the perimeter and athleticism to guard Blake?
Now let's look at players in the NBA currently playing significant time at pf Arron Gordon, Lebron/ Love/ Jeff Green, Green/ Durant, Horford/ Morris, Morris/ Porter, Ibaka, Aldridge/ gay, Ryan Anderson, Porzingis, Davis, Griffin, Giannis/ Parker, Saric, Kuzma/ Randle, Millsapp/ Chandler, Dieng, etc. All of those players can be effective on the perimeter. A hook shot isn't going to get it done for a pf anymore this isn't 1987 and Henson would struggle guarding those guys and it takes him away from the basket much more often where he's at his best blocking shots. He's a center. Again, I think Maker can develop into a starting pf, but as raw as he is on offense and him still getting used to having to consistently guard the perimeter, C is currently his best position until his game develops.

19 Nov 2017 18:55:33
Without James, I don't think the Cavs will make the playoffs. They are having a difficult time just winning games now. It was a allstar and MVP candidate with Boston, he's missed to many games to be considered now. Plus staying healthy is the key word. Shumpert is currently out for the next 1-2 weeks with a knee issue. The Cavs would be better rebuilding. With that lineup you stated, Its also possible they won't make the playoffs. No doubt you're a Cavs. fan. I have no team I'm a fan of. Just a basketball fan. I believe Boston wins the East this year.

20 Nov 2017 08:50:04
I would take IT or Love over any one except GA on the Bucks current roster. I don't think Parker will ever develop into anything more than a third option at this point, I feel the same about Middleton and Bledsoe. Brogdon could, but I doubt it. Griffin is clearly better than all of them by a wide margin.

Also, while at some point Maker could be a starting 4, Henson is clearly a player than can almost only play the 5 in todays league. He's a career backup center.
Griffin could play the 5. There aren't any huge mismatches for him to guard, specifically in the East, and he would be a mismatch for most other centers. It's not like Blake would even be all that undersized at the position.

I think Lou can play the backup pg or sg for the Bucks who could have Giannis and Blake stay in the game opposite of him and be the initiator of the offense. Shumpert can come in and be a versatile defender off the bench.

Also, how is Blake Griffin, Jordan, Williams and Beverly not much? Griffin and Jordan are both all NBA players, Williams is one of the better scorers in the league, and Beverly is probably the best defensive pg in the league. I'm not sure why the number of players coming back matter? In almost every trade for an allstar you see a package of players and picks coming back. Its not like players like Teletovic and Delly have much value.

20 Nov 2017 08:54:44
Darkside, I am a Cavs fan, but clearly, you're a closet Bucks fan. All of you're posts on this site are about the Bucks and tend to skew in their favor.

20 Nov 2017 16:04:12
A closet Bucks fan? Actually no, I live in Wisconsin. I don't live in Ohio, Plus the fact I'm NOT a bandwagon jumper! I post about local teams, Nothing more. Pity, Understand one thing, Most peoples "opinions" are like most peoples "backsides" The majority of them "Stink! " Now, Don't you have some Cavaliers to cheer for? Oddly enough, The majority of posters her, actually think their ideas count? Like some GM is going to read it and go, "HEY! " that's what WE should do. For me, Its "Grins and Giggles" and nothing more! You wouldn't happen to have a "fantasy" team also would you? Enjoy your day!

20 Nov 2017 16:50:07
@RKenne You stated. Dark side, the Bucks desperately need a second star or they're going to end up like the Cavs during the first Lebron era and Giannis will walk.

NOW you know why i reject all the lame Cousins trade ideas.

22 Nov 2017 08:21:44
Clearly, since you've went back and forth with me for a small book, you're just as invested in the site as I or anyone else is. No need to be pretentious and condescending.

Dacman, the difference in situations is Blake is locked up long term. Cousins may walk after the season and outside of the two bigs, the Pelicans roster is bad and they have no money, picks or players with much value.

16 Nov 2017 15:50:06
Clippers: K Love+ M Conley

Cleveland: B Griffin+P Beverly+ M Gasol+ L williams

Memphis: T Thompson+ Shumpert+W Johnson+ Frye+ 1rnd pick Nets+ 1rnd pick Cleveland 2020+ 2rnd pick Clippers 2018

16 Nov 2017 16:07:48
I like it for the Cavs. It's not great for the Clippers and it's a pretty bad return for Memphis.

16 Nov 2017 17:17:33
I said it yesterday, the Clippers are NOT trading Griffin after just resigning him to that huge FA contract.

16 Nov 2017 15:22:45

CLE get Barnes & Noel


DAL get Shumpert, Frye, Zizic, Calderon & BKN pick

16 Nov 2017 19:37:04
In freaking unbelievable. U are going to need pick when u rebuild next yr.

16 Nov 2017 12:55:37

Pistons receive Brooklyn Pick and Shumpert

Cavs receive Pistons Pick and Bradley.

Cavs have IT, AB and Crowder of the Celtics team last year + LBJ and Love (big upgrade zo Johnson and Horford). They also have a good team if LBJ leaves with AB, Crowder, IT and Love (have enough cap space to resign them)

Pistons do it because they get the pick and have difficulties to resign AB

16 Nov 2017 15:02:01
I would like to see that Boston team. The problem is that Bradley is going to be a free agent to next year.

Maybe if the Nets pick is top 5 protected (swap with the Cleveland 2020 pick top 5 protected)

16 Nov 2017 15:02:05
Cavs pass. Bradley isn't worth that .

16 Nov 2017 15:39:48
*Cleveland team

This could work for Cleveland, if they take a top 5 protection on the Nets pick.
It's a lot of ifs, but
If the Nets pick falls in the top 5 and
If Detroit falls back and misses the playoffs.
The Cavs would have three draft picks in next years draft.

So they could resign Bradley, IT and LBJ next year and they can draft young talents so they will have a strong bench.

16 Nov 2017 17:15:47
Can't imagine the Pistons do it if the Pick is protected.

16 Nov 2017 21:31:23
@ps i think they still would. i don’t think bradley is going to stay in detroit come free agency, so its worth it if they get a pick around 6-12 for him.

17 Nov 2017 06:07:27
@donadamsky: won't work as the others proposed. Pistons take on Shumpert and give up their pick with AB going to the Cavs for only a 2021 pick from the Cavs?!
I could imagine a pick swap for the Pistons. They can swap with the Nets pick if it falls out of the top 5. If they can't swap they get a swap in 2020 and the 2021 pick of the cavs.

17 Nov 2017 13:31:59
I believe that the cavaliers can not trade away their 2020 first round draft pick as they traded away their 2019 first round pick in the kyle korver trade.

20 Nov 2017 19:30:53
i don't know why everybody thinks AB not going to resign with pistons they can offer him more money and the team is playin good ball.

15 Nov 2017 16:00:33

At this point and time acc. to tankathon
re. draft picks/order

Nets trade
TOR. pick 24th

PHIL trade
2nd rd picks 36. and 37

PHIL does it for the 1st rounder and a shooter in Kilpatrick off the bench

BKLYN does it to get a first-hand look at OK.
and would have four 2nd round picks 2018
(IND-41st and ORL 52nd)

BK starting five
pg- D-alo
sg- A. Crabbe
sf- Rondae or Carroll
pf- OK
C- Allen

worth it.????????????

15 Nov 2017 19:07:46
Probably to much for Okafor at this point.

16 Nov 2017 12:49:05
There's no probably about it, this is far too much for the Nets to give up.

A rebuilding team like the Nets need the first round picks. Okafor will ultimately go for a second. Adding a quality player like Kilpatrick makes it worse.

14 Nov 2017 21:31:03
Hornets and Bucks

Frank and Graham for Jabari Parker

Might have to throw in O'Bryant to make salaries work.

13 Nov 2017 15:33:02
Lakers - Nets

Lakers gets:

Nets gets:
2020 1st from Lakers (Top 3 Protected)
2018 2nd from Denver (via Lakers)
2019 2nd from Chicago (via Lakers)

Lakers gets cap space while Brooklyn take on a bad contract for future picks.

13 Nov 2017 19:01:34
Not enough for Brooklyn to take on Deng and
Give up players that have some value.

14 Nov 2017 14:43:04
lakers send deng attached with a top 3 protected pick along with julius randle who is no longer part of their future for Booker, Acy, Kilpatrick.

12 Nov 2017 22:23:41
M. Leonard+ 2018 1st round pick (top 10 protected) for T. Booker (exp)
-Get a 1st round draft pick
-Get rid of a bad contract (3years 30m) and get a good veteran big that can help them take a playoff spot.

13 Nov 2017 12:38:01
It's the best the Nets can do. Bad contracts and draft picks.

12 Nov 2017 22:02:42
Okafor + Return Nets 2018 2nd round pick (31-36)+ Rockets 2018 2ndround pick (55-60)
for Toronto 2018 1st round pick (18-22)

-Young offensive-oriented big former top 3 pick that still holds potential.
-Move up ten spots in upcoming draft while not giving up that much.

13 Nov 2017 18:48:01
Don't think the Nets are in a position to trade away first round picks.

10 Nov 2017 11:38:51
What is the worst trade since 2010 besides the Nets- Celtics trade.

1) OKC- Hou
Hou: Harden
OKC: Lamb+K Martin/ 1rnd pick ( S Adams)

2) Clippers- Cleveland
Clippers: M Williams
Cleveland: b Davis+ 1rnd pick (K Irving)

3) NY- Tor
NY: Bargnani
Tor: Camby+ Novak+ 1rnd pick 2016 (Poetl)+ 2 2rnd picks

4) Suns-Bucks- Philly
Suns: B Knight+ Marchall
Philly: MC williams+ plumlee+ Ennis
Philly: protected 1rnd pick LA 2015 (2018 unprotected LA pick)
4)GS- Bucks
GS: Bogut
Bucks: M ellis

5) Other trade

10 Nov 2017 13:44:06
The Melo trade was pretty bad. Mozgov (who was flipped for 2 firsts later), Gallinari (good starter), Chandler ( good Starter), Felton (solid starter at the time), a 1st and 2 2nds.

Melo was a legit top 10 player at the time, but the Knick's roster was to depleted after the trade to really ever compete at a high level and I can't imagine there was another offer any where near that.

10 Nov 2017 14:10:31
Got to be the Mo Will for Boom Dizz and Kyrie deal.

10 Nov 2017 14:11:53
All good choices for bad deals but, I think if you asked "Media Anointed Genius" Sam Presti in OKC for a do-over, he'd find a way to hang onto James Harden. That team was genuinely scary with all 3 of those guys there.

10 Nov 2017 14:20:40
Maybe this trade was even worse than the Boston trade

Nets: D Williams
Utah: Favors+ D Harris+ 1rnd pick 11 (draft Kanter with 4rd pick, K Thompson, K Leonard and J Butler available) + 1rnd pick Golden state 2013 ( draft Dieng with the 21 pick, Gobert available) . + Cash

Or this one

Nets: G Wallace
Portland: Okur+ 1rnd pick ( D Lillard)

All trades on this forum looks good, if you look to the Nets trades :-)

10 Nov 2017 14:57:24
Golden State trading #3 pick (Kevin Mchale) and Robert Parish for the #1 pick (Joe Barry Carroll)

10 Nov 2017 14:59:18
Charlotte Hornets trading Kobe Bryant to the Lakers for Vlade Divac and bunch of crap.

10 Nov 2017 16:33:39
@ Yumbo, since 2010.

10 Nov 2017 18:47:29
Phoenix gets Marcus Thornton and the Cavs 2016 1st rounder (Skal Labissiere moved in a package for the Chriss pick)

Boston gets Thomas.

On the flip side of the Ainge coin, moving Perkins for Green.

10 Nov 2017 19:38:32
Gerald Wallace for the pick that became Lillard does stick out as pretty terrible.

10 Nov 2017 21:06:31
Forgot to mention that the two players from 1st rounder and pick swap were Jamal Murray and Saric. So both ended up as lottery picks.

10 Nov 2017 23:57:44
Mark Cuban would say rondo deal was a nightmare.

11 Nov 2017 02:43:01
James Harden trade was worse. and the mo will for Davis is close. 3rd choice is the love for Wiggins because the cavs could did Better or kept him.

11 Nov 2017 04:07:32
Love for Wiggins wasn't bad for the Cavs. Wiggins is a worse offensive player, rebounder, passer, and defender. Outside of being younger and more athletic, Wiggins reeally doesn't have anything on Love.

11 Nov 2017 07:00:32
I take Butler or George or cousins other then love because I believe Wiggins is better then what the bulls, pacers and kings gave up.

11 Nov 2017 14:11:56
Sixers get:Andrew Bynum (remember him? ) for Igoudala, Vucevic, Harkless, and a first round pick. Bynum never saw the floor for the sixers.

11 Nov 2017 17:05:47

That was a crazy trade indeed.

Funny that the Magic won that trade :-) :-) :-)

12 Nov 2017 00:33:28
Magic won that trade big time. And the same trade set the sixers back for years.

13 Nov 2017 13:41:09
Ohioboy, yeah, but you're talking about trades that happened 3 years, 3 finals appearance and a Championship after the fact. The Cavs went out and got the best player available for Wiggins and even though the fit has never been perfect, Love has given them more than Wiggins would have to this point.

09 Nov 2017 02:18:01
cleveland and la clippers

cavs get; partrick beverly, deandre jordan, wesley johnson

clippers get; tristan thompson;iman shumpert,channing frye, cedi osman, brooklyn pick 2018,





09 Nov 2017 05:30:30
sure, if the clips say yes.

09 Nov 2017 08:51:47
This would be a good move for the Clippers, this give them the assets to rebuilt around B Griffin. But i doubt they do the trade.

This looks like a steal for Cleveland, but i think D Jordan wouldn't fit in Cleveland's system.

08 Nov 2017 15:54:21
The Lakers get Booker (exp) and Monroe (exp)

The Suns get Deng, Clarkson, Zubac and the Lakers 2020 first top 3 protected

The Pelicans get Dudley

The Nets get Asik, the Pelicans 2018 pick top 10 protected and a Lakers 2nd.

08 Nov 2017 16:24:09
Trevor Booker* just to clarify.

07 Nov 2017 15:00:36
Portland: K Love+ 1rnd pick Nets+ 1rnd pick Bucks

Bucks: Shumpert+ IT

Cle: McCollum+ Nurkic+Vaughn+ Dellavedova

07 Nov 2017 17:59:44
After the Bledsoe trade, this wouldn’t be great for the Bucks.

It may be fair value, but I hate this for Portland, unless they could instantly flip the Nets pick for an all star. Short term, this makes Portland much worse. Nurkic and Love are pretty similar in production right now (Love is more efficient offensively, but Nurkic is a much better defender) . Meaning they lose McCollum’s production completely short term. Lillard isn’t getting any younger, they need short term answers, not picks.

If Cleveland thinks Thomas is broken, this a great for them. McCollum can produce about the same, though he’s better from 3, and a better defender.

07 Nov 2017 18:17:39
Portland would pass.

08 Nov 2017 18:36:58
bmill is right, this doesn't make sense for the bucks after getting bleds, creates a logjam for 3 pg’s that should all be starting.
its a tough decision process for portland, i think they need to makes moves bc they have a pretty stagnant outlook in the ever-improving west. mccollum might be worth a similar return by himself.
and nurkic should be kept around (not swapped for someone who gives u about the same offensive output as cj and will be lost against small lineups)
portland isn’t contending this year, so the nets pick makes enough sense for them (keep or trade), but u got to keep nurkic, he is 23 and you don’t know his ceiling rn to give him up for a veteran (love), who albeit is a great second scorer, is less valuable longterm than nurkic.

surprise! yet another cleveland-centric trade.

07 Nov 2017 12:50:23
Pheonix gets D. Russell and Arthur

Brooklyn gets Mudiay, the top 5 protected Suns 18 pick, and Denvers 18 pick

Denver gets Bledsoe

07 Nov 2017 13:36:12
I really like this for Brooklyn and Phoenix.
And Denver want's Bledsoe (I don't know why)

07 Nov 2017 14:56:00
Don't know why Brooklyn would trade Russell. He has been pretty spectacular this season. Plus, wasn't he the number one overall a few years ago?
I understand that the Nets are rebuilding, but why ship Russell away after theY got him on the cheap? . Why not build around him. He's still very young 21?

07 Nov 2017 16:32:22
I agree that Russell has looked good this year, but they're still lacking young talent. They have a few guys like Levert and Russell that look good, but outside of those two there doesn't look to be any future starters. They've used all their salary cap to get what they could and they don't have their pick this year. At this point they're stuck. If they think Russell can turn into a top 10 player, they should keep him, but if he keeps putting up these numbers (he's good but it's hard to tell how good on a bad team) they'll probably have to max him out to keep him. They're going to be moving forward in a rebuild with no capspace, no extra picks, and possibly just enough talent to keep them out of the top 5 to 8 picks. They risk ending up with a roster that's upside is a low seed in the playoffs and then their talented players leaving after their 2nd contracts to teams they can actually win on. Then they're back in a rebuild after little success and with less assets than they currently have.

I think doubling down on a rebuild is the right move. Then they can actually collect the picks they need and can let the bad contracts expire. Then they would have a real chance to collect the young talent to compete for a championship and have enough open cap space to add the extra players they need to complete the roster. Look at how many teams get stuck with a good, but not great roster and don't have the assets or capspace to over come it.

07 Nov 2017 16:58:53
I agree with rkenne.

Russel is good this year, but the Nets have little chance improving their roster. No draft picks and little chance LBJ would sign with them.

They should try to get as many assets as possible so they can start a total rebuilt.

08 Nov 2017 18:39:31
keep russell.
or take the protection off the suns pick.

07 Nov 2017 02:30:05
cleveland / new orleans / phoenix

cavs get . cousins and tyson chandler

new orleans get. thompson,frye brooklyn pick2018

phoenix get. shumpert and osman and 2nd round 2021 pick cavs




07 Nov 2017 13:56:24
U think pels are going let cousins go for thompson, frye and a first? your goin, need much more then that.

06 Nov 2017 09:08:42
cavs and dallas

cavs get . harrison barnes, nerlens noel

dallas get. tristan thompson, iman shumpert, cedi osman, brooklyn pick and cavs pick 2018



06 Nov 2017 12:56:50
The cavs can't deal their 2018 pick (Atlanta owns the 2019 pick), they can only give their 2020 pick.

I like this trade for Dallas. they could go for a total rebuilt. This would give them 2 top 5 picks and a future cavs pick could be good if LBJ leaves.

Not sure about the Cavs, i think they better keep the Nets pick unless they get a proven star. Barnes is good, but he 's not an all star.

06 Nov 2017 18:42:42
* 2021 pick.

04 Nov 2017 10:03:41
1) Memphis-Cle-LA

Cle: M Conley+ M Gasol

LA: I Thomas+ Frye

Memphis: JR Smith+Shumpert+ T Thompson+ 1rnd pick Nets+ 1rnd pick Cle 2021+ 1rnd pick LA 2019

2) Memphis- NO

Memphis: S Hill+ Asik+ 1rnd pick NO
NO: C Parsons

Memphis go's for a total rebuilt en receive 4 draft picks. I know they give away al lot, they have a good team, but in best case, they make it to the second round.
M Gasol and C Parsons had some bad injuries and Gasol is already 33. Conley is a great pg, but there're a lot of good and younger pg in the league. So i would trade them before they have no value anymore.

This Memphis team would suck, so they keep their own pick and they can draft Doncic and Porter in this years draft.

04 Nov 2017 10:46:34
I don't think Parsons has any value and I think the Cavs would want more out of IT than one first. Also, the trade makes the Cavs thin on the wing.

04 Nov 2017 10:52:59
The trade can't happen, sixers or celtics own lakers 2018 #1, and you cannot trade consecutive #1 picks in the NBA. And if by LA you meant the clippers, the celtics own the clips 2019#1 pick already. So either LA team cannot offer their 2019 #1 in a trade.

04 Nov 2017 14:50:44
*Memphis: Deng+ LA 2020 pick.

04 Nov 2017 15:06:42
It actually is a fair return but i just don't see Memphis doing it. And as for Parsons, nahh.

05 Nov 2017 12:56:01
The Grizzlies are 6-3 with 2 wins over rockets n 2 over warrior, there still ballin why would they rebuild.

05 Nov 2017 16:37:23
Blood, the team is older and not going to make it out of the first round.

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