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23 May 2017 01:50:09
I have a crazy deal

NY/BOS/NOLA

NY get 1st overall pick , Jae Crowder & Quincy Pondexter

BOS get Anthony Davis & Carmelo Anthony

NOLA get Kristaps Porzingis , Avery Bradley , 2018 BKN 1st round pick , 2018 BOS own 1st & LAC 1st 2019

BOS sign JJ Reddick

Pg Thomas/Rozier
Sg Reddick/Smart
Sf Anthony/Brown
Pf Davis/Olynyk
Ce Horford/Zeller

23 May 2017 04:04:52
Melo Lee Hernangomez for cousins Asik.

22 May 2017 19:24:04
nets pick for AD.

22 May 2017 19:34:57
not even close.

22 May 2017 19:37:20
It would take at least two good assets (brown, 2018 nets pick, Bradley, etc) along with the #1 pick to get Davis.

22 May 2017 19:37:22
That's the only way I trade the #1 pick. sadly, it probably won't happen.

22 May 2017 19:58:57
Bmiller, it would take more than that I think. I'd do both Nets picks plus Crowder and Bradley, but I still don't think that does it.

22 May 2017 20:45:14
Pelicans would get rid of Boogie before they get rid of AD. It would take a Brooklyn/ Celtics type trade for NOL to trade him.

22 May 2017 21:54:50
fair enough soxfan. Three assets is the bare minimum I could see NO taking. That said, if Boston wanted him this offseason, it would take an insane package (both nets picks, two more firsts, brown, and Bradley) . NO thinks they have a big 3, and they aren't going to just abandon it now (even if that big 3 isn't close to good enough, but that's not the point) .

23 May 2017 01:06:46
Don't see Pelicans trading AD especially with Cousins being a FA after next season. If they trade AD, Cousins would just be with a bunch of young guys like he was in Sacramento and I think he'd get frustrated and probably leave in FA.

22 May 2017 13:12:48
boston: J Butler

Chicago: E Bledsoe+ 1rnd pick 4+ 1rnd pick 2018 Miami+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ swap rights 2018


Phoenix: 1st pick Nets (Draft Ball)+ T Zeller

C: Chriss
PF:Bender
SF:Warren
SG: Booker
PG: Ball

22 May 2017 14:22:43
Celtics have enough future assets to get this done without PHX included. besides that, Suns giving up way too much.

22 May 2017 14:50:22
The Celtics are NOT trading the #1 pick for Butler.

22 May 2017 18:14:10
Nobody realize that Bledose is another knee injury away from being D. Rose.

22 May 2017 10:16:03
Hornets-sixers trade

Hornets gets jahlil okafor #50 pick 2017
Sixers get #11 pick 2017.

22 May 2017 11:44:50
Chances of getting a lottery pick for Ok4 are pretty slim. Late first, maybe, but even then . . .

22 May 2017 12:16:50
Okafor, #36 and #39 and it could work.

22 May 2017 02:19:12
BOS-MEM

BOS : M.Gasol

MEM : T.Zeller + BKN 2018 1st + A.Bradley

BOS sign G.Hayward

PG : I.Thomas
SG : G.Hayward
SF : J.Crowder
PF : A.Horford
CE : M.Gasol

22 May 2017 08:58:14
I like this idea.
It's a lot for an aging center, but if Boston can sign Hayward and go's all in.

22 May 2017 16:52:49
That's a great idea for both Boston and Memphis. Memphis needs to shake things up. The current lineup just isn't getting it done. Bringing in an all around player like Bradley would give them a dynamic backcourt, and would also free up the cash to either throw at JaMychal Green or another free agent. If they could either rid themselves of Parsons, or if he ever comes back to form, they would have a solid roster that's no longer over the hill.

19 May 2017 19:02:55
Lakers Lopez extension nets late picks I believe they have 2 late 1st rounders

Nets 2nd pick Deng Mozgof

Nets Draft Lonzo Ball

Lakers 2018 sign George he will come since Lopez will be there Lakers then trade Randle Clarkson both nets pick from Lopez trade plus the hou pick for butler

Russell
Butler
George ingram
Nance
Lopez Zubac

19 May 2017 19:57:14
The Nets would absolutely jump on that, but I don't think the Lakers would do it. For the second trade, I don't think that's nearly enough for Butler.

19 May 2017 20:38:46
Getting Lopez and moving Deng and Mozgovs contracts would be smart moves for Lakers but if it takes giving up the #2 pick to do so I don't think its worth it. Adding the two late 1sts I don't think changes that. If Lakers give up #2 pick it should be for a superstar period. Lopez is a very good player but I wouldn't consider him a superstar and on an expiring contract I don't think his value is that high (Nets shopped him hard last season and couldn't even get a mid first for him) .

There is likely a deal here somewhere with Nets willing to take on bad contracts for assets but I don't see Lakers giving up much more than Houston pick, Randle/ Nance, Clarkson in order to get Nets to take on Deng and/ or Mozgov. Maybe if they included a 1st or two Lakers would add Russell but I see that the best Lakers would offer. Lakers can always just sign Lopez in FA if they clear cap space.

19 May 2017 17:35:06
BOS - DET - PHI

BOS get: Andre Drummond
Sign: Gordon Hayward
Draft: Fultz

Pg. Thomas
Sg. Bradley
Sf. Hayward
Pf. Horford
C. Drummond

DET get: Jahlil Okafor, Marcus Smart, and Jae Crowder

Pg. Smart
Sg. KCP
Sf. Johnson
Pf. Harris
C. Okafor

PHI get: Reggie Jackson and 2018 1st DP BKN (via BOS)
Draft: Josh Jackson

Pg. R. Jackson (Simmons)
Sg. Stauskus
Sf. J. Jackson
Pf. Saric
C. Embiid

19 May 2017 18:18:34
If you could get all 3 teams to agree that great.

But Philly doesn't need Jackson or that contract.

19 May 2017 19:17:25
Sixers say no. Mr. October is injury prone, overpaid, and rumored to be a bad locker room guy. No thanks.

19 May 2017 20:03:13
I don't think the Celtics go for that. They're not going to give up the Brooklyn pick for Drummond, let alone both of their bulldogs. I can see them moving one of Smart or Crowder. probably Crowder. but I don't see both of them being shipped out. They're the guys who give that team it's swagger, and protect IT. DA loves that, so I don't think he'll move both.

19 May 2017 20:04:09
Aside from that, I don't think Drummond is worth his contract, let alone the players it will probably take to get him. He's a completely one dimensional player.

19 May 2017 20:31:55
IT is 1 dimensional.
Drummond is worth next years pick.
Cut the 6ers right out of this deal and just deal with Pistons.

Smart has shown to be inconsistent and if they get Hayward they don't need Crowder.

Start with 18 Boston pick and a 2nd rd., Smart and Crowder.

19 May 2017 21:17:09
Philly fans you really wouldn't take Jackson for the Brooklyn pick? I don't think Jackson is a good fit, his contract is awful and he looked bad coming back from injury this year but we are talking about a Brooklyn pick that'll likely be top 5 in next year's draft. Philly has the cap space to absorb Jacksons contract without too much trouble (they have most cap space in the league) .

That however is an awful return for Detroit can't see them giving up Drummond for so little, they would need to be getting that Brooklyn pick for them to begin to consider trading him in my opinion.

Celtics need to clear space in order to sign Hayward as is even if they didn't sign any of their FA and ignored their cap holds. They can't take on Drummond's contract and still sign Hayward to the max. If they wanted a center of Drummond's caliber and a top wing like Hayward they'd have to deal Horford and probably Bradley since both Bradley and IT have 1 year left on their contracts.

19 May 2017 23:10:15
Jaws. They're not going to trade Al, I still say that IT will get traded because that makes the most sense.

Make some kind of deal for Vucevic, sign Hayward, trade #1 for pick 4-7 get a player who they can develop. Then resign AB when the time comes. By then Zizic could be developed enough to start and Vucevic will be off the books.

The window is now to get their moneys worth out of Horford.

19 May 2017 10:43:17
lakers offseason

trade 1:

nets:
Timofey Mozgov Jordan Clarkson hou pick

pellicans:
brool lopez two 2nd round picks l.a. (chicago and denver)

lakers:
DeMarcus Cousins Trevor Booker Alexis Ajinca


trade 2:
lakers:
Joe Johnson Alec Burks

jazz:
Luol Deng

draft: lonzo ball

sign:
Michael Carter-Williams 2x2 (player option)
Tyreke Evans 12x3

pg: Lonzo Ball (D'Angelo Russell Michael Carter-Williams)
sg: D'Angelo Russell (Tyreke Evans Alec Burks David Nwaba)
sf: Brandon Ingram (Joe Johnson Tyreke Evans Corey Brewer)
pf: Julius Randle (Trevor Booker Larry Nance Jr)
c: DeMarcus Cousins (Ivica Zubac Alexis Ajinca)


lakers have also 9/10 milions to use to acquire expiring contract and pick (like calderon) and 50m for the 2018 (pg and resign cousins)

19 May 2017 11:34:53
Why in the world would Pelicans trade Cousins for a worse and older center in Lopez who will be a FA just like Cousins after next season? The fact Lakers are getting Cousins for Houston Pick, Clarkson and Mozgov is comical.

Second trade is almost as terrible. Nobody will give up assets for Deng.

19 May 2017 14:51:49
Hilarious, You use NBrooklyn and Utah to dump two terrible contracts. But in the case of the Pelicans you grab an all star for a far less better Center and a couple second rounders. wow Man that is bad.

20 May 2017 22:39:49
Love Lakers fans. So unrealistic.

19 May 2017 08:17:10
BOS-NOLA

BOS : A.Davis + Q.Pondexter
sign G.Hayward & T.Jones

PG : I.Thomas-T.Rozier
SG : G.Hayward-M.Smart-G.Green
SF : J.Crowder-Q.Pondexter
PF : A.Horford-T.Jones
CE : A.Davis-K.Olynyk

NOLA : 1st overall pick 2017 + J.Brown + A.Bradley + T.Zeller + 2018 BKN 1st round pick + 2nd round pick

PG : M.Fultz-T.Frazier
SG : A.Bradley-J.Crawford
SF : J.Brown-S.Hill
PF : D.Cousins-
CE : T.Zeller-A.Ajinca-O.Asik

19 May 2017 14:53:03
Man please. Just please. You do NOT trade a 1st team all NBA Player for pieces and picks.

19 May 2017 16:28:25
It would take at least one more 1st rounder next year (and still won't get done. Davis isn't going anywhere), but the big issue I see here is that you have Boogie starting at the 4 and ZELLER at the 5. Zeller, while I like him a lot (on the bench), and he can be a solid matchup problem in the exact right game. he's not anywhere close to a starter in this league. Not even for a bad team. The rest of that squad is actually pretty good, but you'd have to bring in someone to play the 4. Brown and Fultz could both be stars, and Bradley is a really good two way player. Cousins is obviously Cousins.

All that said, there's no way NO moves Davis, not even for a fair return. If they're going to move someone it will be Cousins. I could actually see them moving him for something close to this package, as they would essentially getting the #1, Brown and Bradley for Heild and the #10. That's a big win on their end.

18 May 2017 03:58:05
Nets Deng hou pick

Lakers cap space


Nets came out in said they will take bad contract for a pick

18 May 2017 04:38:30
Unless Nets get a better offer from Portland to take their bad contracts I see no reason why Nets would say no to this. Lakers could also sub Clarkson for the 1st which would clear even more cap space for them and give Nets a youngish solid player.

18 May 2017 15:14:45
I'm cool with either scenario.

18 May 2017 15:29:29
What a waste of cap space just to get a pick.

18 May 2017 17:04:44
Lakers would obviously have to get something. Would it be the Nets 2nd they got from Boston, $1 in cash considerations, or the draft rights to a 35 year old who was drafted 12 years ago?

18 May 2017 17:15:51
That's a lot of cash coming back for just the Houston pick. but I like the train of thought, and I've been thinking along the same lines with Noah and the Knicks. If you combine those thoughts:

Nets trade: Lopez, Booker
Nets get: Deng, Noah, Rockets pick, Knicks pick, LAL 2nd rounder

Lakers trade: Rocket's 1st rounder, own 2nd rounder, Deng, Clarkson
Lakers get: Melo, Booker

Knicks trade: Melo, own 1st round
Knicks get: Lopez, Clarkson


Nets get draft picks, but lose their financial flexibility for the next three years. By the time their picks develop, they have both Deng and Noah coming off the books. They'll wind up with 5 picks in this draft, so they can go ahead and stash a few overseas to get he most bang for their buck.

Lakers bring in Melo and Booker to bolster their frontline, as they look to start being relevant again with Ball, Russell, Randle and Ingram in the mix.

Knicks bring in sure things in Clarkson and Lopez instead of one rookie, and are able to offload Noah and get something real for Melo in the process. Jackson already said he's not expecting anything from a rookie, so he likely wouldn't mind moving the pick. They'll have room to make a signing or two as well, so they can sign a SG or SF as well. I'd look for a guy like Redick, and bring in a defensive guy like Tucker or Thabo.

18 May 2017 03:15:32
Celtics have too many guards and NEED another big man

Bos-Det

Det trades: Drummond

Boston trades: Bradley-Zeller-Rozier-Mickey 2018 Brooklyn (Top 5 protected turns into 2018 C's 1st and 2020 C's 1st) 2019 Clippers 1st 2017 Clippers 2nd 2019 Detroit 2nd and 2020 Miami 2nd

WHY?

Detroit gets 2-3 1st round picks, a all nba defensive player who scores 17 a game, a growing prospect in Rozier and two players totalling 10 million in salary that can be cut at anytime, and 3 2nd rounders. All this together they can rebuild and continue to grow.

Boston gets their rim protecting/rebounding big they NEED as well as relieve the log jam of guards

DET
PG-KCP/Rozier/Smith
SG-Bradley/Jackson/Hilliard
SF-Harris/Johnson/Bullock
PF-Morris/Leuer/Ellenson
C-Collins (12 pick)/Baynes/Boban

BOS
PG-Thomas/Smart/Jackson
SG-Fultz/Young/FA
SF-Crowder/Brown/Nader
PF-Horford/Yabusele/FA
C-Drummond/Olynyk/Zizic

What do you think?

18 May 2017 20:43:37
You hold the guns to their heads and I'll be lookout from my computer. Detroit Doesn't want to be in limbo for 3 years while this plays out. But hey, I'm all for it. Then trade for Butler.

17 May 2017 22:44:12
I can't believe this is going down. C's fans are so grateful. thanks supercolider for another brilliant call.

Melo for Fultz

or

Noah for 2018 nets 1st


makes sense from both sides.

18 May 2017 01:33:05
I hope this isn't serious.

18 May 2017 01:55:32
This is realistic with a Celtics sweep.

17 May 2017 17:19:08
Hornets, Suns, Thunder

Thunder want to clear space for Blake Griffin
Suns don't need Knight and with them slotted to pick Jackson don't need Warren
Hornets need help

Hornets out 7m (lettting Sessions and BRob walk) Marco and Plumlee
Suns out Knight and Warren
Thunder out Kanter

Hornets in Knight, Warren and Kanter
Suns in Plumlee
Thunder in Marco and 7mil savings

Kemba, Knight, Weber
Batum, Lamb, Graham
MKG, Warren, 2nd rd pick Thornwell
Marvin, Frank, #11 Collins or trade
Zeller, Kanter, O'Bryant.

17 May 2017 22:03:46
Awful trade for the Suns. With Chandler making big bucks and Len about to make big bucks they don't need acquire a guy that'll be their 3rd string center and make over 10 mill per year. If Hornets included their draft pick Suns would do this.

15 May 2017 22:58:10
Lakers - Nets

If Lakers keep their pick

Lakers gets: Lopez, Booker

Nets gets: Mozgov, Deng, Brewer, 28th pick, 1st round pick 2019 and 2021 (unprotected) and two future 2nd round picks

Lakers gets cap space and a starting C in Lopez for three 1st and two 2nd round picks.

Nets take on big contracts but gets a future again with draft picks. Sure they will miss Lopez, but they will be better of with younger players.

15 May 2017 23:56:23
Nets top 3 pick Deng mozgof

Lakers Lopez extension nets late pick.

16 May 2017 00:04:35
If Lakers keep their pick, Sixers get 2018 1st unprotected, and Orlando gets 2017 and 2018 2nds. Meaning, Lakers can't trade their 1sts until 2020 and 2022, and won't have 2nds until at least 2019.

16 May 2017 05:54:03
Giving up unprotected firsts that far in the future is a recipe for disaster and if Laker don't keep their pick they owe Orl a 2019 1st.

If I'm nets I'd highly consider the deal. They should deal Lopez to highest bidder.

16 May 2017 07:07:05
Sorry ment 2020 and 2022 1st round picks.

15 May 2017 17:49:08
If Knicks keep Melo

Trade Noah and a future protected 1st (top 10 or lotto) to Nets for Booker

Sign JJ Redick
Sign Zaza Pachuila
Sign Darren Collison

Draft De'Aron Fox

Fox - Collison
Redick - Lee
Melo - Thomas
Porzingis - Booker
Hernangomez - Pachuila

- Has great wing defender in Fox, Lee, and Thomas and well as rim protection - Zingis and Zaza. Melo Zingis and Redick should be able to carry the scoring load with Collison and Lee being great scorers off the bench

15 May 2017 19:32:03
I think if they do Noah and the current first they could get Lopez. Then move either Porzingis or Melo (Melo should be the one they want to move) for someone to man the 1-3. If it's Porzingis, you'd get significantly more than one usable body for the 1-3 though.

14 May 2017 23:59:43
Lakers PG13 Lopez extension

Pacers Top 3 pick Randle Deng

Nets Clarkson Mozgof Hou pick

Russell
Ingram
George
Nance Jr
Lopez

15 May 2017 02:19:13
I think it'll take more than the pick and Randle to get George especially if they want to include Deng's large contract too.

Nets would be smart to get whatever they can for Lopez's expiring contract. Clarkson is a youngish piece and the Houston first helps to stomach Mozgov's large contract so I don't think its a bad return.

Lopez would be a decent center for Lakers to get and being from Cali gives them an advantage to resign him. Lopez is a great offensive force with 3pt range and solid post up game while not a terrible defender/ rim protector. Where he lacks is rebounding.

15 May 2017 03:33:48
So lakers dump horrible contracts and still get the most valuable pieces in both deals? Please get real.

14 May 2017 22:29:22
Boston: R Westbrook+ S Adams
Trade: IT+ 1rnd pick Nets+ Zeller

OKC: 1rnd pick Nets+ 1rnd pick NY+ J Noah+1rnd pick NY 19
Trade: Adams and Westbrook

NY: I Thomas+ Zeller
Trade: Noah+ 1rnd pick+ 1rnd pick 19

Boston
C: Adams/ Johnson
PF: A horford/ Jerebko
SF:Crowder/ Brown
SG: Bradley/ Smart
PG: R Westrook/ Rozier


OKC can go for a descent rebuilt, drafting
Nets pick: Fulzz
NY: Monk or Isaac
OKC: Collins or Giles

New York receive a third star and they can sign a fourth one in free agency

15 May 2017 01:25:56
They could get a better offer than that for Westbrook and why would they get rid of Adams in the trade. He's young and could be a player they build around.

15 May 2017 02:41:04
Sub kanter for Adams.

16 May 2017 03:18:18
yeah the thunder aren't going to get rid of adams maybe kanter and their not going to take noah A. his contract is too big and B. he would do nothing to help out the thunder the thunder would never do this deal.

14 May 2017 18:31:39
76ers: Kemba Walker
Hornets: Okafor, Bayless, 2018 LAL pick (if not conveyed in 2017).

Sign: Patrick Patterson (3 year, 4th year team option)

G: Simmons, McConnell
G: Walker, Monk
F: Covington, TLC
F: Saric, Patterson
C: Embiid, Holmes

Depth: Stauskas (1-2), Henderson (2-3), 2nd Round 2016: PF/C

13 May 2017 17:23:51
Knicks - Nets

Knicks gets: Lin

Nets gets: Noah, 2018 1st (top 3 protected), 2017 2nd (44th), 2017 2nd (58th)

Knicks gets some PG depth in Lin and Brooklyn gets draft picks for taking on Noah's contract.

13 May 2017 03:02:32
Hornets-Magic


•Hornets get Evan Fournier, #25 pick, and a future 2nd

Draft Bam Adebayo
Lineup:
Walker, Free agent
Fournier, Bellinelli
Batum, Lamb
Williams, Adebayo
Zeller, Kaminsky


•Magic get MKG and #11 pick

Draft Malik Monk and Frank Ntilikana
Lineup:
Payton, Ntilikana
Monk, Hezonja
MKG, Ross
Gordon, Free agent
Biyombo or Vucevic.

13 May 2017 07:42:37
I think their is a deal their possibly could also go

Hornets get:
Payton and 25th

Magic get:
11th

Hornets get a back up pg who fits better with the shooters on this team and can keep the pace when Walker is on the bench and they can draft any of Adebayo, Ferguson, Diallo. Orlando may have to include a 2nd as well.

Magic get the best available Pg and then draft best available player no matter of position as they need to fill so many holes.

13 May 2017 12:29:45
I like this deal, well done.

13 May 2017 14:13:18
That's a solid deal. Nothing too over the top, and both teams wind up with rosters that are better fleshed out.

13 May 2017 23:45:14
Not terrible but I think Hornets should be getting a little more. Not sure how willing Magic would be to part with Vucevic but if I'm the Hornets I wouldn't mind pairing him with Kemba. Hornets certainly need to make some moves since they aren't very good and don't have any high-level prospects like most teams near the bottom.

 
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