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17 Feb 2018 14:25:28
Pels offseason

Trade #1

Pels - Kent Brazemore, D’Angelo Russel

Hawks - Solomon Hill, E’Twann Moore, Cheik Diallo, 2 Future 2nd round pick from Pels

Nets - Taurean Prince, Alexei Aijanca (Waive), Frank Jackson, 2nd round pick from Pels

Pels get talent to win now

Hawks gain depth, solid veteran leaders in a young lockeroom and a developing big for depth

Nets plan to Dinnwiddie at PG, LeVert at SG and Prince at 3 while gaining a young promising Guard in Frank Jackson

Resign Boogie to max
Resign Ian Clark 2 yr deal
Resign Rondo 2 yr deal
Sign FA C to back Boogie

Pels lineup

PG - Russel - Rondo
SG - Holiday - Clark
SF - Brazemore - Miller
PF - Davis - Mirotic
C - Cousins - FA.

17 Feb 2018 15:19:33
I like Jackson, Hill, Diallo. Hill will come back, and we'll see what he does. Moore can go. Prince is who I'd want.

17 Feb 2018 16:41:01
The trade is terrible for the other two teams. I think Brooklyn would need some good picks for Russell at the minimum and I can't see Atlanta being interested in any of that return.

17 Feb 2018 17:57:53
not going to happen fool they're not trading d'angelo russell for piece of trash lol.

14 Feb 2018 19:45:31
offseason

cavs sign brook lopez 3 yrs 40M

cavs trade tristan thompson to brooklyn net for second round pick to clear cap space

and resign lebron james 5 yrs 250M

resign rodney hood 4 yrs 65M

cavs trade kyle korver to sixers for second round pick to clear cap space

14 Feb 2018 20:13:05
The Cavs would still be over the cap, so they couldn’t sign Lopez. I also don’t think that you can get anything positive out of Thompson. Cleveland will have to send a second rounder to unload him.

14 Feb 2018 20:15:08
50 mil is an overvalue for a 33 year old. Hood is at least worth 18. Make that 4/ 72. B. Lopez deal is about right. Don't know that he's my first choice because of Defensive lapses, but he shoots the 3 ball well for a 265 pound 7fter. Nets had Thompson. His name was T. Young. Contract will be tradable in 2019 summer possibly. New look Cavs could help his numbers, and value. Nets wouldn't want him right now. Korver can now spot up shoot with new CAVS keeping him isn't terrible.

14 Feb 2018 21:10:14
Jorga, Hood might have gotten 18 or 20 million last summer or the summer before, but with all that bad contracts that have been signed the past few years the market seems to have flipped. Look at that Lou Williams deal or Caldwell-Pope having to sign a 1 year deal after I think he'll get closer to 12 million a year. The team with money are going to go after big time free agents and try to keep flexible if they strike out. Hood would have to take a fairly big risk and wait out all of the stars deals. He's restricted so the Cavs won't have to panic if he does it. It's a bad time to be a free agent.

14 Feb 2018 22:02:32
That goes 2-ways, CLE has to match to keep. We'll see how the rest of the season goes, and how Hood plays. McCollum is paid nearly 30 million. Hood is 6'-8" SG/ SF that D's up. If McCollum got that at the same point in his career, Hood is going to get 60% of that on a conservative estimate I'd think. CAVS are not in the Drivers seat to underpay. Look what Brooklyn did with Allen Crabbe? POR did it to Indy with Roy Hibbert too, although Hibbert had some good seasons before his body gave out, and the game changed. Hood doesn't even have to want to leave, and CLE has to match. I'd offer 25 just to hinder CLE if I was an east team with cap, and a playoff chance. Williams is 6 foot, and 31. Pope is nowhere near the player Hood is. They are good examples for how much more Hood will garner in offers. I agree with that.

14 Feb 2018 23:16:28
Lebrons not signing a 5 year deal and brook lopes is not worth 12 mill a year.

13 Feb 2018 02:34:46
If Brooklyn pick goes 1 draft night deal

Nets pick to the Pels for Anthony Davis or make a deal to make more trade and get more asset

Nets pick,jr smith to Atlanta for pick 6,hou pick 29,2019 cle pick back,2020 hawks pick 2021 2nd,2022 1st,2023 2nd,

13 Feb 2018 13:34:55
Pels say quick no, there is no player in the draft guaranteed to be as close to a Superstar as AD already is.

14 Feb 2018 17:25:00
Can you be that incredibly lame to make that trade idea? Seriously? I mean did you even re-read it before you posted it? The Pels are just going to trade their franchise Player to the Nets of all teams for 1 unproven pick? Man go get some professional counseling.

12 Feb 2018 01:44:02
Cavs 2018 offseason

If Brooklyn pick goes 1

Trade 1 pick to Atlanta for 6th pick,29th pick from Houston,2019 cle pick back,2020 hawks pick,2022 2nd round pick

Buy a 2nd round pick

Draft:
6th Jaren jackson

29th-rawle alkins

35th-chimezie Metu

Free agency

Deandre Jordan to 2yr 38mil s&t Tristan Thompson

Chris Paul to 1yr 17 mil

Dwayne dedmon 1yr 3mil

Jeff green 1yr vet minimum

Quinn cook 1yr 1 mil

Derrick Williams 1yr 2mil

Dante Cunningham 1yr 2mil

Win title

12 Feb 2018 03:48:59
I feel like that wouldn't be a good deal for Cleveland.

12 Feb 2018 04:25:41
Gonna have to waive and trade a loy of players.

12 Feb 2018 16:38:47
17 million for CP3 Umm i doubt that happens.

11 Feb 2018 00:03:25
here's an off season move for an all in win now and bring in James

Lakers and hornets

Lakers get walker and Howard

hornets get Lopez, Ball and Randle first round pick.


Lakers then sign James and another free agent to round out the roster.

starters

walker
Ingram
James
kuza
Howard

hornets restart with ball and Randle.

11 Feb 2018 06:44:30
not sure that lakers lineup can even crack top 3 in the west. the bench would be horrid. even one season of howard’s salary is far from worth getting kemba (also expiring)
and magic is not trading his golden goose period.

08 Feb 2018 18:28:40
CLE- Jordan
LAC- Thompson, Osman, 1 round pick Nets

08 Feb 2018 18:39:11
They can't trade the Nets pick without receiving a 1st this year or next.

08 Feb 2018 15:03:48
Cavaliers get: DeAndre Jordan and Avery Bradley

Clippers get: J.R. Smith, Tristan Thompson, Derrick Rose, and 2018 Nets first-round pick

Even if LeBron James is set to leave Cleveland this summer, and the Cavaliers hold onto the Nets' first-round pick, the odds of them having another opportunity to win a championship like this one are very slim. Therefore, it would be wise for them to go all-in on a championship run this season. With this being said, they've been extremely reluctant on moving that aforementioned Nets' draft pick. So what if the Clippers enticed them with not only one great defensive player in Jordan, but two of them in Jordan and Bradley, in addition to taking on two of their bad contracts? Thompson would almost certainly have to be involved in any deal featuring Jordan, and even though Smith's contract has two years left on it beyond this year, the second year in non-guaranteed, so it's not as bad as it seems. Even though the Cavaliers would be losing a potentially high draft pick, if James were to leave this summer, trading away two bad contracts would allow the Cavaliers to re-sign their three big free agents in Jordan, Bradley, and Isaiah Thomas in an effort to at least compete for a playoff spot.

08 Feb 2018 15:39:08
The Clippers probably turn that down. If they would take it, the Cavs probably should.

08 Feb 2018 15:56:23
Why should CLE trade the future for this? Bradley, and Jordan aren't going to make CLE contenders.

08 Feb 2018 16:05:50
Can't deal Bradley with another player.

08 Feb 2018 16:06:26
An elite perimeter defender and rim protector, while also getting rid of Jrs contract would be worth the risk.

08 Feb 2018 16:55:33
Let's be real here, Thompson, and Smith alone would cost the pick. Then there's the problem Bradley not being traded in conjunction with another player having already been traded once already this season. Then you have to offer something for Bradley, and Jordan. Now, ignoring all of that, how does this trade make CLE a contender? Seriously? Trade the future to get the sh*t kicked out of you by BOS, TOR, HOU, GS? How is that responsible business practice?

08 Feb 2018 11:12:37
EAST COAST SHUFFLE


Hornets trade Walker, Batum
Hornets get Jackson, Thompson, S.Johnson, Shumpert, 1st round pick 2018 Nets

Pistons trade Jackson, S.Johnson, Ellenson
Pistons get Thomas(use trade exception), Batum

Cavs trade Thomas, Thompson, Shumpert, 1st round pick via Nets 2018
Cavs get Walker, Zeller, Ellenson

Hornets:
Jackson/MCW
Lamb/Monk/Shumpert
S.Johnson/MKG/Bacon
Williams/Kaminsky/Thompson
Howard/Hernangomez/Thompson
- sure Hornets lost some talent with this, but with Nets' and own pick Hornets could have a good draft (good draft class) in order to finally overcome mediocrity
- build around Monk(20), Johnson(21), Kaminsky(24), Lamb(25), Hernangomez(23), MKG(24), Thompson(26) and picks!
- tank for a PG (to build behind Jackson) and best talent available

Pistons:
IT/Smith
Kennard/Galloway
Batum/Bullock
Griffin/Tolliver/Leuer/B.Johnson
Drummond/Reed/Moreland
- all in move with a new IT in Mo-Town and i think Detroit will have arguments to ensure IT's longterm stay (talent, contender status... + uncertainties about IT's future at all around the league)
- also get a playmaking wing, who can make plays, shoot the 3's and defend with Batum
- trade for a wing like W.Chandler, Evans...

Cavs:
Walker/Calderon/Rose
JR/Wade/Korver
LeBron/Crowder/Osman
Love/Green/Ellenson
Zeller/Frye/Zizic
- Cavs need a change in locker-room and some fresh blood, Kemba will all bring that immediately, Zeller will bring more dynamic and hustle play in the paint. Ellenson is a very talented big (#18 pick in 2016) who will learn from Love and Zeller
- yes Cavs lose the Nets pick but Kemba is clearly an upgrade over IT (age, contract situation, fit)

08 Feb 2018 16:06:26
Kemba Walker is not being traded.

08 Feb 2018 04:25:29
Hornets: Fultz, Redick, 2018 1st unprotected (via lakers)
76'ers: Walker, Batum

08 Feb 2018 08:59:16
The pick belongs to Boston if it lands 2-6 so I doubt they can include it unless it’s a draft night trade and it belongs to the Sixers.

08 Feb 2018 14:21:51
They can definitely trade that pick. If it’s not the lakers pick, then it’s the Kings pick, so either way it turns into something good.

08 Feb 2018 14:52:27
I like this
Philly becomes a contender and Charlotte can start a rebuilt.

07 Feb 2018 18:31:39
CLE-CHA trade

Cleveland gets- Kemba Walker, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Jeremy Lamb

Charlotte gets- Isiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Channing Frye, Iman Shumpert, 1st rd pick (BKN)

What do you think?

07 Feb 2018 18:02:01
2 trades for Cavs

Cavs get - Dirk and Noel

Mavs get - Jr Crowder Zizic and Cle 1st

- mavs may not want to give up Dirk but they get a good player on a great contract(Crowder) and a prospect plus a extra pick. Draft DeAndre Ayton w own pick

Smith Jr/Matthews/Crowder/Barnes/Ayton

Cavs get - Walker and Batum

Hornets get - Thomas Shumpert Thompson and Bkl pick

-Hornets can let Thomas walk if they want to rebuild and get a top 10 pick. Both contracts are shorter than Batum as well w Shumperts ending after 18/19 year. Draft Sexton and Knox

Sexton/Monk/Knox/MKG/Howard

Walker/Rose
Batum/Wade
James/Korver
(Dirk)Love/Green
Noel/Dirk

07 Feb 2018 18:09:37
dirk will never be traded I don't know what you're smoking.

07 Feb 2018 18:31:31
Dallas should trade Dirk to a contender.

07 Feb 2018 18:35:27
IT, Shumpert and Thompson are untradeable, and Charlotte won't give up Walker for a draft pick, let alone add Batum to the deal.

07 Feb 2018 19:08:14
In all fairness, Batum is probably a worse contract than anyone on Cleveland. Also, IT is easily tradeable as he’s on an expiring deal, he just doesn’t have much/ any value (I’d say he’s slightly less valuable in a trade than Ed Davis) .

If I was the hornets, I’d probably take that. They can stretch Shumpert, pay Thompson, and hope that their two lottery picks are home runs.

07 Feb 2018 19:46:15
Except JR Smith, his contract is maybe the most toxic in the NBA to me. He’s just such a headcase.

07 Feb 2018 16:48:48
Knicks - Spurs

Knicks gets:
Lauvergne
White
2018 1st rd pick (Top 20 protected)

Spurs gets:
O'Quinn
2020 2nd rd pick (Hornets)

07 Feb 2018 17:23:57
after the horrible willie trade this move looks respectful.

07 Feb 2018 15:36:11
The Cavs get Howard, MGK, and Hill

The Hornets get Thompson, Crowder, Osman, Calderon(waive), Labissiere and the Cavs 2021 1st lottery protected plus they save 8 million dollars this off season

The Kings get Shumpert, Frye, Rose(waive) and the Cavs 18 1st lottery protected

07 Feb 2018 16:09:02
Do you not read any of the reports about the Cavs? Seems like you just live in a fantasy land where you come up with ridiculous trades all day. It's been reported by several media sources including ESPN that Cleveland found no interest in Thompson Schumpert or Smith. So wake up finally and realize what everyone else has known. Cleveland has no trade options, and to get rid of those players they would have to give up the nets pick like I've said all along.

07 Feb 2018 16:45:04
Agree with skills85 if not the tone. Cleveland has very few trade options. LeBron and IT are both gone in July, and the roster is filled with a bunch of guys who are overpaid (thanks to James wanting his buddies around him) . Love has value, but not this year due to the injury. Cavs might be able to get a high second for Crowder, but he's not a starter in this league. They're even stuck with Lue, who cashed in after the title and is signed for three years after this one. Best thing to do is let James and IT walk, pare down salary as much as they can this summer and hope they hit on the Brooklyn pick.

07 Feb 2018 17:01:10
The Shumpert and Frye trade has been on the table and the only thing holding it back is the Cavs want to include Smith instead of Shumpert because of Hill's contract. Apparently you're the one not paying attention. As for the Hornets in this, they save significant money in this and don't take on any extra long term salary. Teams aren't interested in Thompson or Smith, but they would be if they're getting rid of one of their own bad contracts.

From the Kings stand point, they get the salary savings and pick that they want.

For the Hornets, they save significant money the next 2 years, get a pick and 2 decent prospects for players that are signed for multiple years that they don't want and they get players that can offset some of the production they lose.

07 Feb 2018 19:13:00
Howard is not considered a bad contract.
Hill would have to be for a 1st with Smith contract. A second with Shumpert, and CLE wants Hill to agree to a renegotion, which he said he wouldn't, if they trade the first. I'd be surprised if CLE does the deal. Love, James, Crowder, Thomas, Wade, are really all that is valuable. I think the longer the Kings sit on Hill the less likely they do the deal before deadline. Kings have all the leverage, and time they need. They're rebuilding. CLE is in disorder, and panic from a fan standpoint. It's why the same trades are posted on here 10,000 times. Sort of an attempt to speak into existence.

07 Feb 2018 21:08:20
Osman is not a decent prospect, he doesn't even hardly play. Cleveland doesn't know what a prospect is, because James wants nothing but 30+ year old players on his team. Again though you're just to stupid to see that nobody wants Cleveland's garbage. There's no trade on the table for Cleveland. So stopp making crap up. Everyone else that replied agreed with me, so if that isn't a hint for you to go away I don't know what is.

07 Feb 2018 12:05:51
NYK - CLE - LAC

NYK get: Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye (exp), Austin Rivers, Tristan Thompson, 2018 1st DP BKN, and 2018 1st DP LAC

Tank hard

Pg. Nitillinka/ Burke
Sg. Shumpert/ Rivers
Sf. THJ/ Thomas
Pf. Beasley/ McDermott
C. Thompson/ Frye

CLE get: Enes Kanter, Lou Williams (exp), Kyle OQuinn, and Courtney Lee

Pg. Thomas/ Wade
Sg. Korver/ Williams
Sf. James/ Lee
Pf. Crowder/ Green (Love)
C. Kanter/ OQuinn

LAC get: Willy Hernangomez, Jarret Jack, Derrick Rose (exp), and 2018 2nd DP NYK

Pg. Rose/ Teodosic
Sg. Bradley/ Jack
Sf. Gallinari/ Dekker
Pf. Harris/ Hernangomez
C. Jordan/ Marjonovich

07 Feb 2018 16:54:19
Hernangomez to the hornets and lou will is re-signing. They cannot trade him within this season if he signs that extension.

07 Feb 2018 17:03:01
I can't see the Cavs having any interest in a Kanter for Tristan swap. That is only going to make them worse defensively.

07 Feb 2018 06:43:13
BKN/CLE/NY

BKN get Frank Nkitilina, CLE 1st round pick & Willie Hernangomez

CLE get Courtney Lee & RHJ

NY get D'Angelo Russell, Cedi Osman & Channing Frye

06 Feb 2018 18:33:40
CLE - CHA - SAC

CLE get: George Hill and Dwight Howard
Sign: Andrew Bogut

Pg. Hill/ Thomas
Sg. Korver/ Wade
Sf. James/ Osman
Pf. Crowder/ Green (Love)
C. Howard/ Bogut

CHA get: D'Aron Fox, Tristan Thompson, BKN 2018 1st (CLE)

Pg. Fox/ MCW
Sg. Monk/ Lamb
Sf. Batum/ MKG
Pf. Williams/ Kaminsky
C. Thompson/ Zeller

SAC get: Kemba Walker, Channing Frye (exp), Jose Calderon (exp), and Iman Shumpert

Pg. Walker/ Calderon
Sg. Heild/ Shumpert
Sf. Temple/ Jackson
Pf. Labissere/ Randolph
C. WCS/ Papagiannis

06 Feb 2018 18:46:14
The Cavs just pay for Sacramento to get Kemba here. Dwight could probably be had for some cap relief and the same could be said for George.

06 Feb 2018 12:28:18
Cavs-Clippers-Mavs

Cavs get: DeAndre Jordan, Lou Williams, Wesley Matthews and Maxi Kleber

Clippers get: Tristan Thompson, Channing Frye and BKN 1st 2018

Mavs get: JR Smith, Iman Shumpert and CLE 1 st 2018 and future 2nd (2025?)

06 Feb 2018 12:55:40
Cavs didn't have a pick in last June's draft, which means that can't deal away both of their No. 1s this year.

06 Feb 2018 14:19:22
I'm pretty sure it's not about last years pick Collider. You could trade your pick the year of over and over again. It's that they traded next years pick to Atlanta.

06 Feb 2018 16:33:03
The Clippers would much rather let DJ and Lou Will walk for nothing and free up cap space than to take on thompsons horrible contract. Even if they do get frye's expiring and the brooklyn 1st. The brooklyn 1st is losing value the more that they win, and right now, its not too far away from their own pick.

06 Feb 2018 12:28:18
Cavs-Clippers-Mavs

Cavs get: DeAndre Jordan, Lou Williams, Wesley Matthews and Maxi Kleber

Clippers get: Tristan Thompson, Channing Frye and BKN 1st 2018

Mavs get: JR Smith, Iman Shumpert and CLE 1 st 2018 and future 2nd (2025?)

06 Feb 2018 03:26:07
Hornets Cavs

Cavs receive
Walker
Batum
Howard

Charlotte receives
Thompson
Shumpert
Frye (expiring)
Korver
Crowder
2018 Nets pick
2020 Miami second round pick

Charlotte will save 16 ml in salary (9mil now 7 with Frye expiring)

06 Feb 2018 04:56:05
Walker is a keeper. Shoot for Lamb maybe. That's something CLE has matching talent for.

06 Feb 2018 05:56:10
Cleveland isn’t sending enough salary out are they? Walker, Batum, and Howard are over 50 million a year.

06 Feb 2018 06:25:32
Trade works. CAVS go deep into luxury though. CLE has nearly 10 mil in exceptions.

06 Feb 2018 06:29:51
@bmill correct, it’s about 58 for 48.

06 Feb 2018 06:46:15
Check the trade on trade machine. It passes.

06 Feb 2018 11:40:59
Both team should do this.
Cleveland should go all in
And Cahrlotte should start a complete rebuilt.

06 Feb 2018 00:25:32
CLE/MEM/BOS

CLE get Marc Gasol, Marcus Smart, Jamychal Green & 2nd from BOS
- buyout Jr Smith

Pg Thomas/Rose/Calderon
Sg Smart/Wade
Sf James/Korver/Osman
Pf Green/Green/Love
Ce Gasol/Frye

MEM get Tristan Thompson, Iman Shumpert, Jae Crowder, NETS pick & Ante Zizic

Pg Conley/Chalmers
Sg Brooks/Shumpert/McLemore
Sf Crowder/Ennis
Pf Parsons/Martin
Ce Thompson/Wright/Zizic

BOS get Tyreke Evans & 1st round pick CLE (own)

Pg Irving/Rozier/Larkin
Sg Hayward/Evans
Sf Tatum/Brown/Nader
Pf Horford/Morris
Ce Monroe/Baynes/Theiss

06 Feb 2018 01:32:48
To expensive to buyout jr.

06 Feb 2018 02:00:28
If the Celtics trade Smart, and I really think they will, it won’t be to Cleveland.

06 Feb 2018 03:25:10
like it for everyone if memphis gets boston’s 19 first or something. and the cavs pick would have to be 2021.

 
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