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27 Jun 2017 03:44:10
Pelicans Off-Season

Trade 1:
Pelicans trade Asik, 1st round pick (top 10 protected)
Bulls trade Wade
(Bulls will have plenty of cap space next few years)

Trade 2:
Pelicans trade S.Hill, 2nd round pick
Kings trade Gay (s&t 3y 50m)


- resign Holiday, Cunningham, Motiejunas
- pick option on Crawford

roster: 13 Player
Holiday/Crawford/F.Jackson
Wade/Moore/Pondexter
Gay/Cunningham
Davis/Diallo/Motiejunas
Cousins/Ajinca

26 jun 2017 21:28:14
trade 1
lakers get:
dwyane wade

chicago get:
luol deng,corey brewer
2019 2nd rd (chic)
2020 2 nd rd (la)

trade 2
lakers get:
paul george

ind get:
dwyane wade
julius randle
2020 1 st rd (la)

26 Jun 2017 22:17:21
Why would Indy want Wade?

26 Jun 2017 22:49:45
Also, reports are out saying no one was willing to take Deng or Mozgov in combination with 1st how are they getting Wade and getting rid of Deng for two 2nds which don't have very much value and a player that is fairly useless for Chicago.

26 Jun 2017 18:04:51
3 team trade

Bulls,Portland,Lakers

Lakers get Wade

Portland gets Julius randle

Bulls get Deng,crabbe,Lakers 2020 protected pick and Portland's 2nd round pick 2018

26 Jun 2017 18:33:09
I don't see why Portland is involved.

26 Jun 2017 19:04:44
Especially since Portland just drafted two PFs, I don't see why Portland wants another one, especially one that's going to be a restricted FA after this year.

26 Jun 2017 21:07:40
Ya trade would be much more attractive to Bulls if Portland wasn't involved since I'd take Randle over Crabbe and a 2nd rounder. Bulls already have a fair number of solid pfs in Markkanen, Portis and Mirotic if they choose to resign him but Bulls could use all the young talent they can get at this point. Deng's contract doesn't really hurt a rebuilding team all that much and he'd provide needed veteran leadership but Bulls may want more compensation. However, Wade has had clashes with that front office so maybe they want him gone (although Wade should have decent trade value as a big expiring contract teams could use to clear cap space.

25 Jun 2017 07:12:00
Chicago Bulls Offseason

Trade Robin Lopez,Jerian Grant and 2019 1st rnd pick to Orlando Magic for Nikola Vucecic and Terrance Ross

Sign
Rudy Gay 3 yr 40 mill
Jeff Teague 4 yr 60 mill
Roy Hibbert 2 yr 4 mill


Buy out Rajon Rondo and Let Nikola Mirotic and Michael carter williams walk


2017/18 lineup

Jeff Teague/Kris Dunn
Dwayne Wade/Zach Lavine
Rudy Gay/Terrance Ross
Lauri Markennan/Bobby Portis
Nikola Vucevic/Roy Hibbert

25 Jun 2017 07:35:58
that lineup looks disastrous.

25 Jun 2017 14:32:21
Pretty good for Orlando they get a back up pg, expiring contract and a 1st rounder in a draft that will have Shaq son, Manute Bol son, Giannis Brother, Bagley and of course Zion Williamson

Bad deal for Bulls as they shouldn't be giving up picks especially in what looks like a solid draft class in 2019. They already got robbed I still can't understand why they traded their pick imagine Patton and Markkanen that's two guys who complement each other and both can hit 3's that would have been a great start to a build then if they got their next star in Michael Porter the 6'10 sf next year that's a deadly team with range and size.

24 Jun 2017 18:56:05
Bulls - Knicks -Thunder

Bulls gets:
Lee
O'Quinn
2018 2nd back (from Thunder)
Future 2nd (Thunder)

Knicks gets:
Wade

Thunder gets:
Grant

24 Jun 2017 19:35:50
I think the Thunder only give up one second for Grant, but other than that it looks good.

24 Jun 2017 16:45:39
Jazz/Bulls

Jazz: Exum, 1st round pick
Bulls: Cameron Payne, Nikola Mirotic, 2018 2nd round pick

The Bulls let go of Rondo and get Exum to play half and half with Dunn, The Jazz get Payne to back up Hill and Mirotic to back up Favors, they also get a 2nd round pick. In case Hayward leaves they now have some young pieces to help and the Bulls get a PG who still hasn't proven himself

24 Jun 2017 18:47:13
Mirotic is a free agent and can't be traded unless it is a sign and trade.

And I think Jazz pass on this.

24 Jun 2017 16:35:38
Few ex bulls from baby bulls how if we trade Wade to suns for TJ Warren and Tyson Chandler
Lopez to clippers for Jamal Crawford they can be the vets help mentor they were part of post Jordan bulls
Keep rondo help mentor too.

24 Jun 2017 18:30:37
Pax, said he doesn't wanna tank jerry owner would lose $$$ he's a greedy ass owner only cares to fill the united center.

24 Jun 2017 20:15:11
It's awesome that you are mad at a business man wanting to make money. How dare he!


Yay!

24 Jun 2017 21:44:10
Yea while Chicago is worth 2b from Jordan he's is cheap all Chicago fans know it.

24 Jun 2017 15:13:00
Lakers

Trade Randle and Brewer for Avery Bradley
3 team trade
Bulls receive: Deng (Lakers)
Lakers receive Leuer (pistons)
Pistons: Rondo (bulls)
*or add any of their drafts aside from lonzo
sign Serge Ibaka
sign PJ tucker
sign darren collison

Lopez/ Zubac/ Black
Ibaka/ NanceJr/ Leuer
Ingram/ Tucker/
Bradley/ Clarkson/ Hart
Ball/ Collison/ Nwaba.

24 Jun 2017 15:33:16
Why would the Bulls want to take on Dengs huge contract? And there is no way the Lakers get Bradley for Randle unless it's in a 3 team trade for a star.

24 Jun 2017 15:38:38
Not happening. The Celtics don't need Randle and we need Bradly. We already had a boatload of SF before the draft and we drafted 2 more so I don't think they would do that trade.

23 Jun 2017 16:13:11
If Lakers really want to go after George and LeBron next year.

Chicago gets Ingram and Deng

Lakers get LaVine

Sign George and LeBron. Resign Lopez.

Ball, LaVine, George, LeBron, Lopez.

That is a lineup that can compete with Golden State.

23 Jun 2017 16:26:10
If I'm Lakers I wouldn't even consider this trade now. Maybe revisit it part way through the season once we've seen how LaVine has recovered from his injury and how Ingram looks in his second season. In general I don't see why Lakers were so aggressive to move Mozgov's contract right away (I would've liked to see how Russell and Ball were together) especially if they aren't going to trade for George now. It would be foolish to make the same mistake with Deng. It would be wisest to deal him next offseason when he'll have another year off his contract making him easier to move and Lakers would have a better sense of if Lebron or other FA would actually be interested in going there (it would be awful if they gave up Russell and Ingram to clear all this salary then they can't attract any top FA) .

23 Jun 2017 17:03:08
Even with the upside of Ingram and Lavine's knee, I'm not doing that if I'm the Bulls and I don't see that team having a chance against the Warriors. They would need Ball to out shine Lavar's hype to even have a shot. They would get owned on the boards, Lopez would be almost unplayable (his offense is almost his entire game and you can question how good he even is), George is the only really good shooter on that team, Lavine after a knee injury is a huge question mark, Ball is a question mark, outside of Lebron and George there defense doesn't look passable, and the bench will be most likely be patch work at best.

22 Jun 2017 22:22:56
Twolves-Bulls-Knicks


Twolves get Jimmy Butler, #38 pick (via Bulls), #44 pick (via Knicks), Kyle O'Quinn, and M. Kuzminskas
•Draft:
38- Alec Peters
44- Thomas Bryant
-Sign Jrue Holiday 3yr 70m
-Sign Justin Holiday 2yr 20m
Lineup:
PG: Holiday, Dunn, Jones
SG: LaVine, Holiday
SF: Butler, Kuzminskas, Peters
PF: Dieng, Bjelica
C: Towns, O'Quinn, Bryant


Bulls get Andrew Wiggins and #7 pick


Knicks get Ricky Rubio and Cole Aldrich.

23 Jun 2017 00:38:22
I wouldn't give Chicago Wiggins and no 7 pick without getting pick 16 back as well.

And Wolves don't want Knicks junk for Rubio.

23 Jun 2017 00:51:00
Lavine, Dunn, and the 7th for Butler just happened. Great trade for Minnesota.

22 Jun 2017 16:35:36
Bulls get Carmelo Anthony and the 8th overall pick

Knicks get Jimmy Butler and Cameron Payne

The Knicks acquire a legit star in his prime to pair with Kristaps. This move would make the Knicks a free agency destination in 2018 and beyond.

The Bulls land a top ten pick in a loaded class for their star player while still staying relevant with the addition of Melo.
-Draft Lauri Markkanen
-Let Rondo and Mirotic walk
-Sign CP3 to a two year deal with a second year player option

C: Robin Lopez
PF: Lauri Markkanen
SF: Carmelo Anthony
SG: Dwyane Wade
PG: Chris Paul

Then in the summer of 2018, both Wade and CP3 can become free agents to create the necessary cap space to sign LeBron. The Super Friends then chase the first championship in Chicago since MJ.

22 Jun 2017 16:41:33
Why would the Bulls want Melo if they don't have Butler?

22 Jun 2017 16:51:54
@rkenne_16 they'd want Melo because he's best friends with Wade, LBJ, and CP3. Those four players want to be on the same team as each other badly, so having two of the four in Melo and Wade makes it more likely for the Bulls to land CP3 and LBJ.

22 Jun 2017 17:43:38
I don't see Lebron wanting to play with a team he can't win a championship on. He said it one time in passing that it would be cool at the end of their careers if they could play together. It's never going to happen.

22 Jun 2017 18:15:48
I'd say LeBron has a better chance of winning a chip on that team than with the Cavs current roster.

22 Jun 2017 19:27:02
Rerur, how so? Love is better and younger than Melo and Melo has been declining. I'd give Paul the edge over Irving, but only slightly and two years from now that's probably not the case. Wade has fallen off a cliff the past two years. He's arguably not a top 10 shooting guard at this point. Their playing styles don't mesh well. They are all ball dominant player and those 4 would cap you out.

22 Jun 2017 11:30:29
Wolves trade Wiggins, LaVine, Rubio, Dieng, 7th pick
Wolves get Porzingis, Bledsoe, Butler, Warren

Suns trade 4th pick, Bledsoe, Warren
Suns get Wiggins, Valentine

Knicks trade Porzingis, Anthony
Knicks get 4th pick, Rubio, Dieng

Bulls trade Butler, Valentine
Bulls get 7th pick, Anthony, LaVine(use trade exception)

Wolves:
Bledsoe/Dunn/Jones
Butler/Rush/Muhammad
Warren/Butler/Casspi
Porzingis/Bjelica
Towns/Aldrich
- Porzingis and Towns both elite shooting for big men -> stretch the floor while both have the ability to block shots at a high rate (2-way-potential)
- Bledsoe and Butler bring veteran experience, better defense and shooting
- All player around Towns and Porzingis will playing better, also Butler, Bledsoe and especially Warren

Suns:
Ullis/Knight
Booker/Barbosa/Valentine
Wiggins/Dudley/JonesJr
Chriss/Bender/Williams
Chandler/Len
- get their 2nd go-to-go in Wiggins to pair with Booker
- let Ullis run the show, Knight backing him up
- fastest team in NBA

Knicks:
Rubio
#8Monk/Lee
#4Jackson/Thomas/Kuzminskas
Dieng/O'Quinn
Hernangomez/Noah/O'Quinn
- what Phil Jackson said? 2 starter and a top5 pick for Porzingis?
- Knicks draft 2 athletic wings to go into future (Jackson + Monk)
- add pass-first PG Rubio and solid PF/C Dieng, both still with some room to develop


Bulls:
Rondo/Grant/Payne
Wade/LaVine
Anthony/Zipser
#7Isaac/Portis/Mirotic
Lopez/Felicio/#16Giles
- huge cap space (Wade, Rondo, Anthony) in 2018
- get current replacement for Butler in Anthony (yeah not equal) and very promising future assets in LaVine and 7th pick
- draft Isaac and Giles to pair with LaVine in future

22 Jun 2017 14:39:57
Awful trade for the Knicks.

22 Jun 2017 07:24:47
Twolves-Bulls-Knicks

Twolves get Jimmy Butler, #38 pick (via CHI), Mindaugas Kuzminskas, Kyle O'Quinn, and #58 pick (via NYK)

Bulls get Carmelo Anthony, #7 and #8 picks

Knicks get Andrew Wiggins, Ricky Rubio, and #16 pick.

22 Jun 2017 07:46:08
I don't think Twolves should give up that much for Butler. I'm not that keen about them giving up Wiggins in general but Wiggins, #7 AND Rubio doesn't make sense for them. I'm not even sure I'd do LaVine, #7 and Rubio.

Bulls return isn't great especially since they are giving up their #16 pick. Its nothing compared to what Celtics would likely offer.

Knicks are getting back too much in this trade. Yes they are giving up #8 but Wiggins is more valuable than that and I'm not convinced most teams would even give up #16 pick for Melo at this stage of his career. He certainly doesn't make sense for Bulls without Butler who could just trade directly with Twolves and get a better return in this scenario.

22 Jun 2017 06:00:05
Mega Deal
Bos-Nyk-Min-Chi

Celtics
Trades: #3, La/Sac pick, Bos 2018 pick, Crowder
Receives: Porzingis
Sign Hayward

Knicks
Trades: Porzingis, Melo
Receives: #3, La/Sac pick, Lavine, Rondo

Two great picks and young star in Lavine

Timberwolves
Trades: #7, Lavine
Receives: Butler

Get superstar to pair with Wiggins/Townes

Bulls
Trades: Butler, Rondo
Receives: #7, Bos 2018, Melo, Crowder

Get great pick and Melo and Crowder to start with Wade. Try to sign Chris Paul or Paul Millsap

22 Jun 2017 07:36:16
Boston is trading too much, the Bulls aren't giving enough, Knicks are getting too much, and the Wolves aren't giving enough. Plus these kinds of trades don't happen.

22 Jun 2017 15:25:25
Unlikely, but not a bad trade. I really like it from Chicago's perspective, they get valuable draft picks and a Melo/ Wade duo that could be used to attract CP3 this summer and possibly LBJ next summer. Use those picks to get a big man and suddenly the Bulls have a super team.

22 Jun 2017 05:11:56
Bulls trade: Butler Portis valentine
Bulls receive: porzingus dunn noah

Knicks trade: porzingus melo
Knicks receive: Wiggins Portis Rubio #7 pick Aldrich hill

Twolves trade Wiggins Rubio Dunn #7 pick Aldrich hill
Twolves receive butler melo valentine

22 Jun 2017 05:59:05
no way any team will accept wrapping C. Anthony in a Porzingis trade.

22 Jun 2017 02:45:20
Celtics - Jimmy Butler

Kings - #3 pick, Bobby Portis, Terry Rozier

Bulls - Picks #5 and #10, Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder.

22 Jun 2017 00:47:27
Twolves-Bulls-Knicks

Twolves get Jimmy Butler

Bulls get Carmelo Anthony, #7 and #8 picks

Knicks get Ricky Rubio, Andrew Wiggins, and #16 pick (via CHI)

22 Jun 2017 06:33:41
Twolves say no.

21 Jun 2017 17:48:09
The Lakers get Wade and Butler

The Bulls get Deng, Clarkson, Randle, the 2, 27, and 28

21 Jun 2017 18:45:15
I wouldn't want to take on Wade unless he would be willing to take a big discount next year to make space for LBJ.

21 Jun 2017 18:52:46
TriangleO, the idea was to have a recruiter for Lebron. It's not a forgone conclusion that Lebron is going to LA. No matter the chatter until LA shows they can put together a championship caliber team, I highly doubt Lebron seriously considers going their. Wade could help and at worse he's an expiring.

21 Jun 2017 21:18:37
Rkenne, I'm not saying I truly believe LBJ is going to the Lakers next offseason, I'm just saying that it's pointless to bring Wade over if he expects a salary above an exception level next year. They would not be able to keep him anyways if LBJ does in fact want to come, and Wade won't take a minimum. e.

21 Jun 2017 21:29:53
why would the lakers trade the 2 pick. there going to take lonzo or fox. if they trade it there was no point of trading diangelo russell.

21 Jun 2017 21:41:54
That's a lot of picks for Butler and wades contract.

21 Jun 2017 07:49:24
Clippers are looking to deal Jordan. Not sure what Clippers are looking for in return (I guess depends on how their offseason goes) but don't see them getting anything too great since most good teams don't have a need for a center, he'll be 29 in a month and he only has 1 year guaranteed left (player option for 18-19 which he'll probably opt out of to get one last big contract) .

Bucks get: Deandre Jordan
Clippers get: #17, Vaughn, Henson, Teletovic

Could swap Henson and Teletovic for Monroe if he opts in. This return would be decent if Clippers were aiming to rebuild.

Celtics get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Horford, Clippers 2019 1st, Boston 2018 1st

Boston needs a rebounder at center position and still keep cap space for Hayward and other moves. Clippers get draft picks including their own back and a versatile big that is signed a year longer than Jordan.

Bulls get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Lopez, Valentine and #16 pick

Bulls get an all-nba player to add to Butler and still have cap space to make a splash in FA. Could alternatively incorporate Wade if he opts in. Clippers get a solid pick and hometown solid starting big in Lopez and young prospect in Valentine.

Cavs get: Jordan
Clippers get: Thompson and Frye

Not sure if really makes Cavs better but Jordan is bigger force on interior and Clippers get a younger big that is signed 3 more years.

Wizards: Jordan
Clippers: Gortat and Bogdanovic (S&T)

Gortat is reportedly unhappy with Wizards so they upgrade on him while Clipper get two solid players in return.

Spurs and his hometown Rockets would also be good destinations but couldn't think of a trade that would really make sense for both sides (some of these are a stretch as is) .

21 Jun 2017 11:10:57
I think the clippers want pg. In that way they might keep cp3 and blake. Give the assets to indy.
If pg leaves in 2018 they still have cp3 and blake.
Think a firstrounder in the range 12-16 is enough because lakers can't offer much.

21 Jun 2017 13:52:19
I guess dealing Jordan would be a way for Clippers to get assets to get in the George sweepstakes. I'm just not sure Paul and Griffin would base their decision to return for multiple years or not on a guy who may only be a 1year rental. If anything its the other way around, if they are able to sign Paul and Griffin they could help Clippers to resign George if they traded Jordan for him in a 3 team trade.

21 Jun 2017 02:26:10
Knicks/ Blazers

To NYK - Turner, #26

To POR - Lee, 2nd from Bulls.

21 Jun 2017 16:30:31
That's not a bad trade, especially if you're thinking you want Monk in the draft. Turner is ideally a PG on offense, and would likely fit the triangle well. The issue comes on the defensive end. You'll need to have someone playing the "3" who's essentially a tall shooting guard. They'll be defending the 1 or 2, but they will need to be a shooter, and tall enough to not get completely eaten up by a SF on the offensive side.

 
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