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19 Jun 2017 00:46:55
Trade:
1. Kevin Love, Cedi Osman and Kay Felder for Paul George
2. Iman Shumpert for Tyus Jones

Sign:
- Carmelo Anthony (Rumours are that the Knicks and Melo could agree to a buyout, then he'll choose between Cavs/Clippers)
- Tony Allen - 1yr/Vet Min
- Zach Randolph - 1yr/Vet Min (Allen and ZBo take the min for a chance to win the title)

Team:
PG - Kyrie, T. Jones, D. Jones
SG - JR Smith, Korver, T. Allen
SF - George, Melo, Jefferson
PF - Lebron, Randolph, Frye,
C - Thompson, Bogut, Tavares

Cavs get their own killer lineup that can matchup with the Warriors.
Kyrie - Curry
JR - Klay
Lebron - Draymond
George - Durant
Melo - Iggy

19 Jun 2017 05:40:32
Melo would start over JR let's get real!

19 Jun 2017 07:05:40
I haven't heard buyout rumors but that is about the only scenario I could see Cavs getting Melo and bench role is the best one for him. In order for the George trade to work I think a 3rd team would be involved to take Love and provide younger assets to Pacers. A team like Nuggets or even Celtics could work.

17 Jun 2017 17:38:48
Bulls-Celtics-Sixers

Bulls Trade: Jimmy Butler
Celtics Trade: 2017 number 1 pick, 2018 Nets pick
Sixers Trade: 2017 number 3 pick, Jahlil Okafor

Bulls Get: 2017 number 3 pick, 2018 Nets pick, Jahlil Okafor
Celtics Get: Jimmy Butler
Sixers Get:2017 number 1 pick

Bulls draft Jackson and build around him and the Nets pick next year. Also Okafor is a bucket and could start after some development.
Rondo/Payne
Wade/Valentine
Jackson/Zipser
Portis/Mirotic
Lopez/Okafor

Celtics also sign Hayward and Griffin this summer and make a super team to take down the Cavs and Warriors
Thomas/Smart
Butler/Brown
Hayward/Crowder
Griffin/Olynyk
Horford/Johnson

Sixers draft the perfect guy for their team in Markelle Fultz and put a young possible future super team
Simmons/McConnell
Fultz/Stauskus
Covington/Henderson
Saric/Long
Embiid/Holmes

17 Jun 2017 18:08:59
How do sixers move from 3 to 1 by only giving up a bench player for the third worst team in the league?

17 Jun 2017 19:00:15
The Celtics would not have enough room to sign either Gordon H. or Blake G. In this trade scenario, let alone both. Therefore, the Celtics would say no because it would be Fultz, probable top 5 pick next year, and the ability to sign Hayward or Griffin for Butler.

16 Jun 2017 23:18:33
1. Celtics-76ers

#1 for #3, LAL 2018, 76ers 2018

2. Celtics-Bulls

2018 picks Nets, Boston, 76ers and LAL + Crowder for Butler

Boston still get JJ this year (maybe the player they prefer) and get another star.
If they can sign Hayward it's a great team with players like smart, bradley and brown coming of the bench.
That could be great against the cavs and the warriors

17 Jun 2017 00:13:10
What if Lakers take Jackson at #2? This seems a little risky to trade down to #3 and miss out on the guy you want. Just pick him #1 if you like him that much and you don't lose any assets.

17 Jun 2017 04:59:51
The deal would be contingent on Jackson being at #3.

Why take him at #1 if they can get future pick or picks for him. If Laker take him them I'm sure Danny has another plan.

17 Jun 2017 14:42:52
I think that's just too much for Butler. I like the guy, but I don't think he's a superstar. He's a star player for sure, but he's not a guy who I see going to Boston and putting them over the top. They already have Butler-Lite in Bradley, and he takes smarter shots.

16 Jun 2017 05:31:17
DEN-CLE

Cleveland gives k-love

Denver gives Wilson Chandler, Malik Beasley, will Barton and either hernangomez or a first

Getting PG would obviously be better but getting younger, and a couple more two way wing players would be huge for Cleveland. I don't think they really need Kevin love, they won in 2016 with little from him, two way wing players match up better against gsw and lessen lebrons load.

The froutcort pairing of live and jokic would be absolutely amazing offensively. This pairing along with the young guards they have could do some serious damage. They use some of that surplus depth they have to get jokic a star frontcourt partner.

16 Jun 2017 06:54:29
I think Cleveland's best way to improve is to trade Love not because he was necessarily the issue but since they need to shake things up and his role can likely be played by a less talented player.

Cleveland should be getting more than this. Beasley is a little raw for Cavs and Barton is a great scorer but not as great defensively and is entering UFA after next year. I think Chandler would be the perfect versatile forward to pair with Lebron. I'd do something like Love and Shumpert for Chandler, Faried, Harris and Arthur/ Hernangomez. This would give Cleveland a versatile starting forward in Chandler, a rebound machine and energy guy in Faried who helps with depth, Harris a young guy that took a big leap this past year on both ends and unlike Barton is a RFA after next season so Cavs can retain him with Bird rights, and a stretch four (Arthur is better defensively and more ready to contribute but Hernangomez is younger and offers more upside and is cheaper) .

Nuggets have a gluttony of assets and would be wise to consolidate them into a star like Love. Love would be their #1 or #2 option with Jokic and I think would be much improved in this role since he is a offensive player. That duo would struggle defensively but would be hard to defend. They could keep Galo on the wing and have Barton and Murray to fill in for Harris. I think Nuggets would then try and use their #13 pick to upgrade at point guard position (Bledsoe or Rubio) and not sure how much cap space they'd have remaining (I guess they should resign Plumlee after giving up so much for him) .

16 Jun 2017 05:12:22
LAL - SAC
Kings want to move up
Lakers send 2nd pick , luol deng
Kings send 5th pick and 10th

LAL - IND
Lakers send 5th , 28th , Clarkson , Randle
Indiana sends Paul George

LAL - GSW
warriors need to make space to offer players more money , thus trading Thompson since he did bad in the playoffs...
Lakers send 10th , Nick Young , Tarik Black
Warriors send Thompson

I think all deals make sense

16 Jun 2017 05:34:37
Indy is steering this ship, 5 and 28, Clarkson and Randle aren't going to do it. They'll get more at the deadline.

16 Jun 2017 05:36:41
The golden state trade is not sensible! If the warriors were to trade Thompson they could get a much better return.

16 Jun 2017 06:07:17
Those all are bad for the other team.

16 Jun 2017 07:07:08
Although Luol Deng doesn't really hurt the Kings since they have all young talent and moving toward the future, cap space is valuable since teams like Portland are willing to give up assets to dump salaries. Therefore I don't like the value for them unless Lakers were to add more like Randle.

I don't believe Lakers will be able to get George that easily unless they wait until the season has started and the George to LA in 2018 rumors scare teams away from trading for him.

Warriors wouldn't give up Klay for that little either. Warriors don't need to clear much to retain their FA and if Durant takes a slight discount for 1 year (i think by just accepting his player option) Warriors would save enough to resign their FA this year and then next year can give Durant the max since they'd have his Bird rights. Thompson didn't do bad in playoffs. He didn't shoot well for most of them but his elite defensive ability influenced games.

16 Jun 2017 14:32:08
The Kings shouldn't have to take on Deng. If they do, then they should only have to give up one pick.

That might get George, but I'm not positive. If they've got the 5 and the 10, I don't think Indy would settle for the 28 instead of those two together.

That's an insane trade idea for Thompson though. The other two have some merit, but there's no way that Golden State even thinks about that. If they're going to trade him, it'll be for a better package, and probably to the East. I don't think they're going to be dealing with that this summer though. The guys involved all say they're willing to take less to stay together as of now, so they'll do just that. Moving forward it might be a different story.

15 Jun 2017 23:39:35
CLE - IND - BOS

CLE Trades: Love, 2 2nd Rounders (One to each team)
CLE Receives: George

IND Trades: George
IND Receives: 2018 Nets Pick, Rozier, Crowder, Future CLE 2nd Rounder

BOS Trades: 2018 Nets Pick, Rozier, Crowder
BOS Receives: Love, Future CLE 2nd Rounder

CLE does this to have a legit super team that can beat the warriors. They then have another guy in George who can run the offense when Lebrun is off the court. He also can be in charge of guarding Durant in the finals.

IND does this to get a top pick next year, get a solid player in crowder and get something for George's garbage trade value ATM.

BOS does this to get a great front court player to pair with horford. He also can help the rebounding problem. They only have to get rid of a pick next year and crowder. They then can have money left over to chase Hayward to have a solid 4 man super team. Also they can move zeller to another team if they need more cap for Hayward.

Just so you know, it doesn't have to be this exact trade but I was thinking of one based on George to the Cavs, love to the celtics, and that high pick next year to the pacers.

16 Jun 2017 02:36:07
The Celtics would NOT have nearly enough money to pursue Gordon H. Unless he was willing to take a contract for $15mm per year. obviously a no.

16 Jun 2017 03:37:39
I don't like it for Boston. Cleveland wins this trade.

16 Jun 2017 03:31:59
I don't think Ainge is feeling the love for Love anymore since he got Horford. Although Love would spread the floor but they need a true center

If rumors are correct about PG telling teammates and friends he plans ongoing to LAL then Boston is not even thinking of him. I know I wouldn't be.

Celtics will make some trades this year unlike last year and at the deadline. The #1 pick is ringing the crap out of his cell phone, and I'm sure someone will try to make an offer he can't refuse, I think he'll trade down, cheapest way to get 1 or more of his needs.

15 Jun 2017 01:53:12
Talk of the Kings trading 5 and 10 to move up and get Fox are heating up soooooo......

Sixers offseason

Trade 3 for 5 and 10
Draft Monk at 5
Trade 10 and the Lakers 2018 pick to the Warriors for Klay Thompson

Ben Simmons
Malik Monk
Klay Thompson
Dario Saric
Joel Embiid

15 Jun 2017 06:32:24
Love it as Sixers fan but not enough for Warriors.

14 Jun 2017 16:29:49
IF YOU CAN MAKE THE SPLASH IN FA. ITS BEST CASE SENARIO WITHOUT BLOWING UP THE BIG 3
4trade team deal sign and trade
Cavs get Hayward
Jazz get W Chandler plus something like a pick (lets say one or two second rounders)
Nuggets getT Thompson plus 2ndround pick/youngplayer from nets
Nets get Shumpert

Makes sense for nuggets because they get a quality center who can cover up for jokic deficiencies and nets get a good player for nothing. Nuggets can later trade plumlee and nets shumpert to other teams

With that trade cavs have saved 28 million. let's say they give hayward around 20-22 mill. If they add the MLE and Lebron gets a paycut they have around 10-12 million to spend for a quality center. Now Paul Millsap would be a reach but I believe Serge Freaking IBAKA would sign with the cavs. Alternative options are Dedmon of spurs and Amir Johnson Taj Gibson and Andrew Bogut.

Then use bird rights to resign Korver . Resign Frye. Offer minimums to NENE (he is a ring chaser and took a minimum to play for houston) Speights (knows warriors philosophy) beno udrih/jose calderon

Depht Chart
PG Irving/Udrih/D Will
SG (Hayward)/Korver/JR Smirh
SF LeBron/ (Hayward)/Jefferson
PF Love/ Frye
C Ibaka(or any of the other mentioned)/Speights/Nene

14 Jun 2017 16:53:57
Why does Utah, Brooklyn, or Denver do this?

14 Jun 2017 17:27:48
Get your head down and read why it makes sense. Why doesn't it?

14 Jun 2017 17:28:11
Why doesn't it make sense I mean.

14 Jun 2017 18:11:35
None of those teams outside of Cleveland would even consider it, especially Utah.

14 Jun 2017 18:24:22
Hayward is not going to sign a contract for 20-22 million especially on a S&T.

14 Jun 2017 02:12:44
Celtics get Jordan Butler sign Griffin
Bulls get 1st 8th Noah Ndour
Knicks get Crowder Bradley 16th
Clippers get Lopez Melo 3 Celtics 2nd

Crawford Rivers W.Johnson for Wade Grant Canaan

2nd power team in west LeBron takes less to beat Warriors than Celtics
CP3/Grant/Canaan
Wade/MLE/2nd
Melo/Moute/2nd
LeBron/B.Johnson/2nd
Lopez/Speights/Stone

Rebuild with great backcourt
Fultz-1st/Rivers/Payne
Fox-8th/Crawford/Thornwell-38
Valentine/W.Johnson/Zipser
Portis/Mirotic/Felicio
O'Quinn/Noah/Lauvaergne

Best team in East
Thomas/Rozier/Jackson
Brown/Smart/Thorton
Butler/Green/Nadar
Griffin/Horford/Yabusele/Mickey
Jordan/Horford/Zizic

Evan Turner 28th for cap space Bradley EXT 20 mil per season

Great defensive team 50 wins
Turner/Mitchell-16/Randle
Bradley/Lee/Dotson-58th
Crowder/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Porzingis/J.Bell-28/Inglis
Hernangomez/Pasecniks-44th/Plumlee

14 Jun 2017 08:34:54
There is this thing called a salary cap. Celtics could hardly afford getting Jordan and Butler in a trade let alone sign Griffin to his 25+ mill per year max contract afterward when they have no cap space.

Other than that I think the trade works out nicely for all the teams involved. As far as other moves Lebron is under contract next season so he can't sign with Clippers for cheap (doubt he would anyway) . As much as he may want to play with his "friends" that team would be worse than current Cavs with even worse depth so I don't see Lebron sacrificing a chance at more rings and his legacy to play with his buddies.

Also, zero chance Fox lasts until #8 pick. He could go as high as #2 and I don't see a scenario where he makes it past Kings at #5.

14 Jun 2017 17:01:53
I'm all about that if you're getting Griffin at the vet minimum, but the money just doesn't work. There's also not much point in bringing in Griffin AND Jordan since you're then putting a maxed out Horford on the bench. That's just silly. If you were to make this trade (and there were no financials involved) you'd sign Hayward not Griffin. Then you have the IT/ Butler/ Hayward/ Horford/ Jordan lineup.

Still, either way it's not possible.

13 Jun 2017 17:35:41
NYK - GSW - DET

NYK get: Klay Thompson and Reggie Jackson

pg. Jackson
sg. Thompson
sf. Anthony
pf. Porzingis
c. Hernangomez

GSW get: NYK 1st DP 2017, DET 1st DP 2017, and Stanley Johnson
Draft: Malik Monk (8) and Jarrett Allen (13)

pg. Curry
sg. Monk
sf. Durant
pf. Green
c. Pachulia

DET get: Kyle O'Quinn and Courtney Lee
Resign: KCP

pg. Smith
sg. KCP
sf. Lee
pf. Harris
c. Drummond

13 Jun 2017 22:05:32
Don't thinkm O'Quinn and Lee get you a first round pick, let alone a young SF with potential.

13 Jun 2017 23:15:50
DET would need to keep their pick for this.

14 Jun 2017 00:11:45
Why change the Warriors?

Pay the luxury tax and have a dynasty for the next 5-7 years. They'll make that back in revenue.

14 Jun 2017 00:52:21
😍where do Knicks fan sign for this. Thompson def was as good as curry and Durant offense.

14 Jun 2017 00:53:07
Porzingis for Thompson is fair.

14 Jun 2017 02:21:12
I don't think it's as easy as "pay the luxury tax. " According to some reports I read, sorry for no resource, if the Warriors pay everyone on their roster they would have a payroll ( including luxury tax) would be greater than $500 million. If they are to move someone it will most likely be Klay, but I think he is more valuable than the above trade return.

15 Jun 2017 08:36:24
So Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson and pick 12 for Lee and O'Quinn? Are you serious? hahaha

13 Jun 2017 17:32:37
Warriors are going to be a force for the future... But will be over the cap when the new season starts unless they move Thompson and find a cheaper version of him..

Looking more and more like Boston will trade down to get the most out of this draft.

Boston Draft night..

Boston trades #1,2nd rd (37), Zeller to Kings for #'s 5 &10 and Hield or WCS.

#5, two 2nd rd (53+56) and Bradley to GS for Thompson..

#10 and Mickey To Orlando for Vucevic.

13 Jun 2017 19:10:51
I could see it if Melo and Wade were in better shape, but Wade is a shell of himself, who knows what Melo can bring and Paul is injury prone. Lebron wants titles. This won't happen.

13 Jun 2017 20:25:03
What does Wade or Melo have to do with my post?

13 Jun 2017 22:44:18
Can't see Warriors breaking up this team intentionally. Don't think they'll mind going over the cap to retain one of the best teams ever. Also, Bradley will only be cheaper than Thompson for 1 year then he'll probably make considerable more as a FA.

14 Jun 2017 00:59:48
I agree on the 1 yr deal, just thru it out there, it would have to be Crowder or Brown.

Wade would be cheaper as Melo with the trade kicker would be 30 mil. If those where what you considered replacements.

13 Jun 2017 04:31:11
Ind-Cle-Nyk

Pacers
Trade: George, Young, Ellis
Recieve: Love, Anthony

They know they are losing George next summer so they try to get something in return and clear cap space to sign Paul and Wade and eat the banana boat team together (minus LeBron)

Paul/Young
Wade/Robinson
Anthony/Miles
Love/Allen
Turner/Jefferson

Cavs
Trade: Love and Thompson
Recieve: George and Young

Get another superstar scorer to relieve LeBron and help compete against the Warriors. Fill roster with FAs.

Irving/Vet FA
George/Smith
LeBron/Shumpert
Young/Jefferson
FA/Frye

Knicks
Trade: Anthony
Recieve: Thompson, Ellis

Sign Teague

Teague/FA
Lee/Ellis
Thomas/Kizminskas
Porzingis/O'Quinn
Thompson/Hernangomez

09 Jun 2017 02:19:02
3 Way Trade

Cavs get Melo

Celtics get Tristan Thompson

Knicks get Jae Crowder, Terry Rozier, Tyler Zeller, and 2019 Clippers 1st Round Draft Pick (via Boston)

Cavs add a 4th star to try and keep up with Golden State while losing Thompson who has not been effective in the finals.

Celtics get a big rebounder that they desperately need while clearing the way for Hayward by moving Crowder and clearing Zeller's salary. Also Rozier won't have much of a role with IT, Bradley, Fultz, and Smart in the backcourt already.

Knicks move on from Melo and get a fresh start.


Supercollider, don't even bother replying to this. Everyone is sick of your Melo is the worst player in the NBA crap.

Anybody else I would be glad to hear what you think.

09 Jun 2017 04:43:49
To much going to New York from Boston.

09 Jun 2017 06:07:21
add Kyle Oquinn to Cavs.

09 Jun 2017 06:39:07
So the Zen Master is going to trade Melo for a handful of garbage players? Why would the Knicks consider this? Melo is not going to be a salary dump. He may be 32 now but add him to a playoff team like Okc, NO, Hou, Wash, or Chicago and your looking at a legit conf finals run for any of them if not a possible title run.

09 Jun 2017 10:18:34
Not quite sure why Cleveland would want to give up a quality player like Thompson in the that deal. Anthony's value right now is either a first-rounder in the 16-24 range, or a middle-of-the-rotation player (some other team's second or third player off the bench) . Cleveland's issues are on the defensive side of the ball, and swapping Thompson for Anthony would only make the wound deeper. Easy to understand why the Knicks would jump all over this deal. NY would get two high-energy defenders at low cost, plus a first-round pick when the Clippers may stink, and they can release Zeller.

09 Jun 2017 13:06:05
Sorry bwright i have to agree with Supcollider. Isiah Thomas for Melo make more sense.

09 Jun 2017 14:45:05
Without all the hyperbole, that is definitely a package that Phil would accept for Melo. He's come out and said that Crowder is who he wants in a trade with the Celtics. If he could also pull down Rozier (who would fit there pretty well) and a 1st rounder, he's more than likely going to pull the trigger. As for the Celtics, I'm trying to match salary another way instead of Zeller. Cutting his non-guaranteed salary is a big part of freeing up the money needed for a Hayward signing, which is probably the wanted outcome if they're moving Crowder.

09 Jun 2017 16:58:31
Wait, curious now. Supercollider. you think a man that put up 22/ 6/ 3 and is valued at the 7th or 8th man on a team? Dang. didn't realize his value went so low. Especially when you claim Rozier is worth a mid to high lottery pick. what a crazy world, Rozier making 5 pts at 35% is worth so much more than Melo and his awful 22/ 6/ 3.dang. Lemme guess. NY Post wrote an article on it that you misread?

Troll troll, we want troll.

09 Jun 2017 18:14:26
So Super, Melo at 22/ 6/ 3 and an all-star appearance (11th straight BTW) is a seven or eighth man? So I guess that puts Bradley, Crowder, Horford, Smart and Olynik at the end of that bench. I mean, none of those guys have proven to be anywhere as good as Melo, so.

09 Jun 2017 19:24:16
I still think the most homer comment made by melos secret crush is that Super truly believes Rozier has proven to be worth a lottery pick.

08 Jun 2017 11:34:46
Warriors are building a dynasty in western conference, so CP3 should go east

Teams in the line:

Celitcs: Boston isn't a great fit, because the backcourt is already strong and loaded enough and Celtics rather in search and need another frontcourt scorer

Pacers: Pairing CP3 with George and a good supporting cast (young stud Turner, Teague, T.Young, Ellis, Miles, Jefferson and Stephenson) sounds excellent but won't bring a championship

Heat: young dynamic roster (Dragic, Winslow, T.Johnson, Richardson, Whiteside) and flexible cap situation. With some moves Miami could also add another major FA like Milsap if both accept little salary cuts:
- trade away McRoberts and Ellignton for C backup and cap relief, let Waiters and J.Johnson walk (no bird rights for neither)
- sign CP3 and Milsap, resign Haslem, Reed & Babbitt
roster:
CP3/Dragic/vet PG
T.Johnson/Dragic/Richardson/McGruder
Winslow/Richardson/Babbitt
Milsap/Reed/Haslem
Whiteside/trade/#14 pick

76ers also young dynamic and maybe with a more talented roster and also with more flexibilty:
- cut Henderson, Splitter, Rodriguez & Long
- trade away Bayless + 2x 2017 2nd picks for cap relief + 1x future 2nd round pick
- player under contract: Simmons, Embiid, Okafor, Stauskas, Saric, Anderson, Luwawu = about 36m + 1m Henderson
- player options on Covington, McConnell, Holmes = about 3.1m
- cap holds about 41-42m, projected salary cap = 102m
- spend full cap of 60m on 4 contracts for CP3 and Milsap
- draft Fox with #3 pick to learn from CP3 in those 4 years and let him also play 2-guard with his quickness and athletism

roster:
CP3/#3Fox/McConnell
Covington/Anderson/Stauskas
Simmons/Covington/Luwawu
Milsap/Saric/Holmes
Embiid/Okafor/Holmes
- very very talented starting 5 with huge defensive potential
- bench also crowded by talent with Fox, Saric, Okafor, Anderson, Holmes, Luwawu and Stauskas
- immediat contender
- only needs to learn how to win and in eastern conference they will learn that in next years playoffs
- Eastern Conference Finals in 2019!!!

08 Jun 2017 12:59:38
Awesome. All that fluff build up to get to your real point. That cp3 will leave to go to one of the worst teams in the league so in a couple years perhaps they could advance to the third round of the playoffs. Not champion. Not even play in the championship. But in two years the eastern finals. Suuuuuure.

08 Jun 2017 14:56:59
CP3 is already 32 although there is some merit to him trying to go East in order to get to an NBA finals as you concede in this scenario even if he went to Philly the team around him may not be ready to be competitive for a few years due to the losing culture that has developed. There is also the inherit injury risk for Embiid and lesser extent Simmons as both haven't logged significant # of games yet (Embiid only 30-something and got hurt while on minute restriction) .

I think it makes the most sense for Paul to stay out West where he could likely have a more mature supporting cast whether that is in San Antonio, Utah, back to New Orleans or even if he wanted to go young route I think Twolves would be a better fit and bet than 76ers.

08 Jun 2017 15:38:32
By the ways sixers fans. I didn't mean the sixers don't have a strong potential. I'm talking now. For an aging pg. on decline. Looking for a ring. Timing doesn't come close to matching up.

Paul will go to the Spurs.

08 Jun 2017 17:44:56
I've heard Paul to the Bucks. Which makes a lot of sense. They are then a shooter away from being a complete team, which they can get in the draft.

08 Jun 2017 21:13:27
Hahah said by a person who's name is "Bucks". They are far more than just a shooter in the draft away from a championship. There is no report saying Paul to the Bucks. Just stop.

07 Jun 2017 07:56:48
If the Warriors win in 4 or 5 games Cleveland/NYK trade:

Cleveland gets:
SF Carmelo Anthony

NYK gets:
C Tristan Thompson
SF Channing Frye

Cleveland will embrace small ball full time and try to outscore Golden State for the next 2 years with this lineup

PG: Irving/D. Williams
SG: Shumpert/JR Smith
SF: Anthony/Korver
PF: James/Derrick Williams
C: Love/Bogut (league minimum)

NYK:

PG: Dennis Smith Jr.(draft) or trade for Rubio
SG: Lee
SF: Frye
PF: Porzingis
C: Thompson

Knicks let Rose walk, add two starters, shed Carmelo contract, put 5 NBA players on the court for the first time in years

07 Jun 2017 08:35:48
since when did channing frye become a SF?

07 Jun 2017 09:14:59
Carmelo is 6'8", Frye is 6'10". Both are soft, no defense playing forwards that shoot the 3. What, do you think Frye is some bruising 4? Lol.

07 Jun 2017 11:04:50
That would be the Trade of the Year if the Knicks could pull it off. Cavs would need a lot more than that to give up Thompson.

07 Jun 2017 13:19:25
Johnny I thought Frye was a SG. I think Knicks will hold until something with wolves and blazers happens. Unless supercollider predictions come true Melo for thomas 😁.

07 Jun 2017 15:08:07
I think the C's would have to throw in something more with IT to get Melo.

I don't see the Cavs moving Thompson without at least getting a backup big back in a deal. Add in O'Quinn from the Knicks end, and some salary fillers from Cleveland's end.

06 Jun 2017 19:07:27
Spurs Offseason (challenge Warriors)


-Trade Tony Parker, #29 pick, and Bryn Forbes to Minnesota for Ricky Rubio (Bring back Parker next year in free agency)

-Trade: Spurs-Thunder-Nets
Spurs get Doug McDermott, Spencer Dinwiddie, and salary relief
Thunder get Lamarcus Aldridge and #27 pick (via BRK)
Nets get Enes Kanter, Kyle Singler, and #21 pick (via OKC)

-All free agents opt out

•Free Agency;
-Sign Paul Millsap 2yr 45m (takes less for chance at ring)
-Re-sign Jonathon Simmons 3yr 40m
-Re-sign Pau Gasol 2yr 22m (takes less)
-Re-sign Dewayne Dedmon 3yr 30m
-Re-sign Manu Ginobli 1yr MLE
-Bring over Nikola Mutinov
-Sign Lavoy Allen 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Rubio, Murray, Dinwiddie
SG: Green, Simmons, Ginobli
SF: Leonard, McDermott, Bertans
PF: Millsap, Anderson, Allen
C: Dedmon, Gasol, Mutinov.

06 Jun 2017 21:51:30
And Minnesota does that deal why?

07 Jun 2017 00:52:07
How does that lineup challenge the warriors?

07 Jun 2017 01:19:52
Don't think that team challenges the Warriors. Spurs should be able to get much more than that for Aldridge and wouldn't be able to get Rubio that easy. If Spurs want to compete with Warriors they need to get someone that will greatly out perform expectations. This is most likely to happen with a younger player so I think Spurs should deal Aldridge to a team like Bulls for a package centered around Portis and hope he can take the next step in Spurs system and use cap space to sign Paul or Hill.

03 Jun 2017 16:51:02
Assuming the Warriors take care of the Cavs now the Finals...

Chris Paul (S&T) for Kyrie Irving/(either Tristan Thompson or Iman Shumpert for salary purposes)

The Clippers get younger and stay competitive while Lebron reloads with his best friend.

03 Jun 2017 18:06:26
I don't know that Cleveland does this, unless LBJ is adamant that they do so. Irving has shown much more in the playoffs than Paul has, and at his age, can be the face of the Cavs once James is gone.

That said, I could see a scenario where LeBron does go to the front office and request this deal, and management gives him what he wants.

02 Jun 2017 08:31:27
3 team trade

Klay Thompson to Boston

Number 1 pick to Sacramento

Numbers 5 and 10 to Golden State

Move role players from each team to make the financials work.

Hayward signs with Boston
Tony Allen signs with Golden State

Boston Lineup

PG Thomas/Rozier
SG Thompson/Bradley
SF Hayward/Brown
PF Horford/Jerebko
C Olynyk/Zeller

Boston trades off Smart and Amir Johnson as salary dumps

Golden State Lineup

PG Curry/Livingston
SG T.Allen/#10 D.Mithcell
SF Durant/Iguodala
PF D.Green/#5 pick J.Isaac
C Pachulia/McGee

Sacramento Lineup

Who cares?

02 Jun 2017 10:10:14
Danny will never trade the 1st Pick for Klay Thompson. He is simply not worth that.

02 Jun 2017 13:07:06
Not enough for Klay.

02 Jun 2017 13:33:14
Klay is an all star. We never saw Fultz play any game in the NBA. He could even be a bust (really low chance but possible) . I would even add the 2018 Brooklyn pick if necessary.

02 Jun 2017 14:02:11
I don't understand why Sacramento is in this. If GS decided to move Thompson (they won't though), they'd rather take the #1 pick over 5 and 10.

02 Jun 2017 17:22:02
The funniest part is, you wanting the Celtics to trade Smart as a "salary dump" lol.

31 May 2017 04:12:05
Sixers trade: Pick 3, LA 2018 first round pick, 2 second round picks, Okafor

Warriors trade: Klay Thompson

Sixers next season:

PG: Simmons
SG: Thompson
SF: Resign Covington/Bigger FA
PF: Saric
C: Embiid

or

PG: Lowry
SG: Thompson
SF: Simmons, in a PG role
PF: Saric
C: Embiid

31 May 2017 12:46:47
Only if GS lose the finals.

31 May 2017 15:40:23
That's actually not a terrible move for Golden State. Both of those picks should be really good, and they are going to have to start bringing in more cost effective players if they want to keep things going. Drafting Jackson this year to be an Iggy replacement would work, and you're always able to bring in shooters on a team like that.

As far as Philly, I think your second scenario would be their ideal. Bringing in Lowry and Thompson give you the veteran leadership, in addition to top end talent, that combines perfectly with their young guns. If Embiid is healthy (a big if) and Simmons is anything close to what they hoped (I think he was a bit overrated at school, but even so) they are a potent player in the East.

28 May 2017 19:10:03
4 way Trade Proposal GS - Bos - Dal - Min

GS trades Klay Thompson
GS Receives Seth Curry, Dwight Powell, #9 pick from Mavs (draft Lauri Markannen)

Dal trades Seth curry, Dwight Powell, Wes Matthews, and #9 pick
Dal receives klay Thompson and Ricky Rubio

Bos trades 1st pick
Bos receives Dieng and 7th pick (draft PG)

Minnesota trades Rubio, dieng, 7th pick
Minnesota receives Matthews, Zeller (waive), Mickey (waive), 1st pick (draft Fultz)


GSW opens up some cap space. Adds a knockdown shooter in Curry. Adds an athletic, rim-chasing big in Powell. Adds a stretch 5 who would add even more space on offense.

Dal gets the pass first pg they desire and one of the best 3 and d players in the league. They may be getting a little too much in this deal. 2019 first may have to be thrown in.

Bos gets a solid all around big man without letting go of any of its main contributors. In this draft, the 7th pick should still be a good prospect but I don't know if Ainge would see Dieng as valuable enough to bridge the gap between these 6 picks.

Minnesota drafts Fultz. He could be there pg for the next decade +. This move also free cap space allowing them to look for a pf (Millsap?) in free agency

I believe this trade makes all 4 teams better than before. What do you guys think?

28 May 2017 19:37:01
Not enough for Klay and Boston could get more out of the 1st pick.

28 May 2017 19:48:40
Why would the Celtics do this when they could just sign a big in free agency and keep the first pick?

28 May 2017 19:53:30
Out of all those names, the only one that would get Ainge to return a phone call would be Thompson. Dieng doesn't come close to moving the needle.

29 May 2017 05:00:57
You guys seem to be very high on Markelle Fultz. In my opinion, Dennis Smith and Gorgui Dieng (as a pair) are more valuable than Fultz. Dieng is a proven, starting caliber big man who can play either C or PF and he is signed for the next 4 years. If the Celtics were to look for a big man in free agency, they'd have to pay him more than Dieng. For the Celtics, this trade nets them a quality big man, a young guard with a lot of potential, and they maintain enough cap space to sign a max player such as Hayward.

 
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