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15 Sep 2017 01:46:36
With Memphis' playoff contention appearing to be over it's time to sell high on Gasol and get something for him

Memphis trade: Gasol

Cavs trade: Shumpert, Thompson, Zizic, Nets 1st, Cavs 1st

Memphis obtain a potential top 3 pick, coupled with their own pick to restart the franchise ( plus role players)

Cavs get a 4th all star to compete with the warriors in a spot in which they are weak in, plus with gasol's range, passing and defensive ability allows him to slide smoothly in with cavs.

15 Sep 2017 04:49:56
I don't see the cavs trading the nets pick for anyone other then cousins or davis, and I highly doubt davis gets traded by nop .

15 Sep 2017 05:20:59
I'd rather have gasol than cousins, considering their contracts. You don't trade the nets pick for an all star on an expiring deal.

15 Sep 2017 05:55:49
I don't see them trading for Cousins. Then they would have Thomas, Cousins and James all free agents next year and all can leave and they get nothing.

15 Sep 2017 13:04:48
In my opinion, Gasol is to old to give up the Brooklyn pick for. I don't see Memphis getting that kind of return for him from anyone. That's a better package than players like Butler, George and Cousins ended up netting. All 3 are better and younger players and two of them had 2 years left on their contract, which is what Gasol has left.

15 Sep 2017 13:17:23
I agree with rkenne, giving up that pick is too much for a guy that has turned to the back half of his career. I think if you did that exact package without the Nets pick it would be good for both teams.

15 Sep 2017 18:42:41
Yeah, maybe replace the Nets picks with a Cavs lottery protected 2021 pick, Triangle. Something like Tristan, Shumpert or Frye (Shumpert more useful, but Frye has the better contract) whichever Memphis preferred, then whoever Memphis prefers out of Osman, Zizic, or Felder, the Cavs 2018 pick and the Cavs 2021 pick lottery protected would probably be the best the Cavs would do.

17 Sep 2017 01:59:28
That' nets pick isn't top 3 nets are better than magic bulls hawks atm I believe silver will give bulls it bc there a top market team to make nba $ who should bulls pick if it's first MPJ bagley or doncic?

09 Sep 2017 00:41:29
Knicks - Thunder

Knicks gets:
2018 2nd Bulls (via Thunder)
2019 2nd Thunder
2019 swap right
2022 1st rd pick (top 5 protected)

Thunder gets:

Knicks move on from Melo and get a 1st rd pick, two 2nd round picks and a swap right (not likely) in return.

Thunder go all in to get PG13 and Russ to stay in OKC. With this move they can challenge Golden State in the conference finals.

09 Sep 2017 01:13:14
Yes I agree they can challenge to meet the warriors in the conference finals and get destroyed.

09 Sep 2017 12:56:37
Knicks aren't shedding Melos expiring contract for kanters terrible contract and a 1st 5 years away. Just stop.

09 Sep 2017 17:01:42
Both Melo and Kanter will opt in next year. Not enough money on the market for them to become free agents.

13 Sep 2017 03:48:25
Thunder giving up way too much picks.

07 Sep 2017 18:10:47
Klay Thompson to Suns
Jackson,Bender,Warren to Warriors

07 Sep 2017 19:46:29
The Warriors would have to think about it. I'm not sure if it's worth breaking up their big 4 for. It looks like they'll be able to keep their core together for a long time.

For the Suns, it doesn't seem worth it. Thompson is going to be 28 this season and their best player is a sg, which would be Klay's best position. Even with Thompson, they probably aren't better than a first round out, if that. They're better off continuing to rebuild for the next two years. They already have a nice group of young players. If they can add a top 5 pick from this years draft, they could end up with 3 future all stars.

07 Sep 2017 22:22:31
I think the Warriors will hold on to Thompson at least for this season to make another run, so I don't see a scenario in which he's dealt, unless it's for something stupid good and offers the short term impact that he offers.

I do agree with rkenne as well regarding the Suns end. Klay is possibly outside of Phoenix' window for competing.

06 Sep 2017 01:44:18
Cavs and pelicans

Cavs get Davis and holiday

Pelicans get love, Thomas, shumpert and nets first rounder.

Pelicans can start over. With love and cousin and look to trade cousins mid season for more younger players that will suit there needs. Thomas can finish the season and they can use his salary space for other players. Next season or offseason trade love for more assets.

Cavs finally get another all Star and build with Davis and hopefully James for another few years. They also get a good pg when healthier that can shoot better them most pgs.

Cavs starters


Key bench is rose, smith, fry sounds like a mess to me for the warriors.

06 Sep 2017 23:33:10
Drumroll. We officially have by far the WORST trade idea ever!

07 Sep 2017 03:29:46
Finally get another All-Star? I guess they have been waiting two weeks to make that dream come true. Man, how the mighty have been forgotten (Irving if you're not following) .

07 Sep 2017 12:15:56
Congrats! You've officially offered the stupidest trade offer for AD on the site. They will be emailing you your gift card to Fantasy Island later this week.

07 Sep 2017 12:20:28
That's not close to getting you Davis, but a modified version could get you Cousins. In this case, I'd say throw the pick out, because that's too much for half a season of Boogie, but Love, Thomas, and Thompson for Holiday (in a vacuum) and Cousins could be a good move.

This gives Cleveland a PG for the whole season, and Cousins for the year. I think that's a better power three than they have right now, and it might be enough to keep LeBron happy. If not, Cousins comes off the books, and you're not dealing with the contracts of Love and Thompson. You still have the pick in hand, and plenty of money to work with.

For New Orleans, the flexibility the Cavs are getting is the opposite of what they want. They finally give Davis some stability. You have both Love and Thompson locked in next to Davis for the next few years, which gives you a dynamic frontcourt. You'd also have the ability to bring back Thomas, who's a better all around player than Holiday. you're not winning any championships this season, so you can wait out the injury, and make him happy in the meantime.

Holiday can't be traded until January, which makes a lot of this moot. but in the long run, it could work well for both sides.

07 Sep 2017 12:22:18
Also, Love is a huge downgrade from Davis, and even if the Pels could ditch DMC for expiring deals and picks, while also not resigning IT in the offseason, they still would still have $80M+ on the books for next years, which gives them less than $25M (projected) in cap space and the need to overspend to bring an FA to a mediocre situation that the Pels would qualify as. Add any salary at all in a Cousins del, and factor in draft pick salaries, and the Pels would be likely to add one decent FA, not another star.

I feel bad unloading on you Sivretsolide, but you have got to be one of the worst "GM's" on this site.

07 Sep 2017 12:43:43
It's not the worst trade idea ever. It clearly won't happen. But give it a rest. You aren't funny and it's just trying to hard for something that isn't there.

07 Sep 2017 21:41:05
Hilarious watching you (Hamburger) dole out civility lessons. Especially after reading several of your comments. Man that is rich!

03 Sep 2017 16:00:21
Mid-Season Trade
Nets get:
F Kevin Love

Pistons get:
C Tristan Thompson
F Trevor Booker (expiring)
G D'Angelo Russell
G Caris LaVert
18' Nets 1st Round Pick via Raptors

Cavaliers get:
C Andre Drummond
G Avery Bradley (expiring)
F Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Nets: Russell shows much of the same as in Year 2. Nets pair him with two of their young wings and the Raptors pick for Kevin Love, a borderline All-Star in the Eastern Conference.
Pistons: Drummond doesn't step up his defensive ability. They move on from his contract and get a cheaper replacement in Thompson, a younger guard than Jackson in Russell, and a potential long term option at the SG or SF position in LaVert. If they are not in the playoff picture and they realize Bradley won't resign, they'll be glad to take a pick for him.
They upgrade their center position with acquiring Drummond and get more equipped to defend the Warriors with Bradley and RHJ. They can start Thomas/Bradley/Crowder/LeBron/Drummond and if the Warriors go small, they can input RHJ or maybe even Dwyane Wade if he's bought out. I doubt the Cavaliers will move the Nets pick if they don't know LeBron's future.

03 Sep 2017 16:58:58
I'm not saying he's not more valuable, but I doubt the Cavs would move Love for Drummond straight up and I don't think anything they get back is worth giving up the Brooklyn pick for. It's a pretty terrible deal for the Cavs.

03 Sep 2017 17:28:43
Looking at it more, it's pretty terrible for Brooklyn too. Love is really good, but they still aren't a playoff team with him. Why give up some of their best young players for him? This really only makes sense for the Pistons who get an absurd return on Bradley and Drummond.

02 Sep 2017 09:59:58
I know I am going to get unbelievable for this. But i think it should work otherwise i wouldn't post it. Why wouldn't it work?

In the middle of the season, if the Pels lose and eventually Boogie isn't working out for the team or AD trade:

Tristan Thompson + 1st Round Pick (BKN)

For Cousins

Finally a team that can challenge the Warriors.



What a finals it would be.

02 Sep 2017 14:24:12
The Brooklyn pick is insurance against LeBron walking away after this season. If they let the pick go for Boogie and Bron-Bron skates again, the Cavs basically become a Rust Belt version of the old Kings with a pissed-off Cousins in the middle of it all.
But you never know. James makes most of the personnel decisions now anyway, and he could blackmail the Cavs into dealing the pick. He's hardly averse to doing something like that.

02 Sep 2017 14:46:51
Yeah, Too bad it won't be happening.

02 Sep 2017 14:47:45
It's possible if the Pelicans struggle and/ or think they're going to lose him. I'm not sure that would be the package though. That would probably be best case scenario for the Cavs. If they acquire Cousins, they would have move TT before next year to save money, but NO might be more interested in the Cavs expiring contracts plus the pick and Some combination of Zizic, Osman and Felder.

02 Sep 2017 16:40:36
I honestly don't think the Nets pick will be dealt unless Lebron agrees to an extension because of the player we picked up in a trade with the pick or the Cavs feel it's a last ditch effort to impress Lebron and they feel no other option but to do this whether is because of injury or something and a need needs to be filled.

28 Aug 2017 04:58:12

MEM get Enes Kanter , Doug McDermott , Tristan Thompson , 2nd from OKC , 1st from OKC & Cavs own 1st 2018
- replace Gasol with 2 young big men while adding 2 picks at the process

Pg Conley/Chalmers
Sg Baldwin/Evans
Sf Parsons/McDermott/McLemore
Pf Thompson/Rabb
Ce Kanter/Wright

OKC get Jamychal Green (s&t) & Iman Shumpert
- finally get a starting PF who is a workhorse and versatile enough to challenge Warriors. This team has a very good potential to be one of the best defensive teams in the league
- sign Thomas Robinson

Pg Westbrook/Felton
Sg Roberson/Shumpert/Ferguson
Sf George/Abrines/Huestis
Pf Green/Patterson/Collison
Ce Adams/Robinson/Johnson

CLE get Marc Gasol
- get a more competitive roster with a more versatile big man

Pg Thomas/Rose/Calderon
Sg Crowder/Smith
Sf James/Korver/Jefferson
Pf Love/Green
Ce Gasol/Frye/Tavares

28 Aug 2017 21:47:51
okc and memphis says no.

27 Aug 2017 18:32:05
2 trades and 2 free agent signings the Pistons can do to be more competitive

Pistons get:
SG K. Thompson

Mavs get:
PG P. McCaw + '19 2nd (DAL pick)
PF H. Ellenson

Warriors get:
PG R. Jackson + '18 1st (UP)
SG S. Curry

Pistons add a star player who helps in an area the pistons lack in production (3 point %). They insert him at SG while Bradley moves over to PG. They give up Jackson, Ellenson and 2018 1st round pick to do so.

Mavs add McCaw who would fill the void of Curry at SG but comes off the bench. They also add a future replacement for when Nowitski retires and resembles a similar play as a decent 3 point shooter for a PF. They also get back their 2019 2nd round pick they traded to the Warriors ahwile ago.

Warriors add Jackson who can be a reliable piece off the bench or move to SG. They also get an unprotected 1st round pick next year from the Pistons. They also get Steph Currys little brother who also is a good 3 point shooter and can go to SG.

SALARIES match for incoming and outcoming salaries.

Pistons recieve $17,826,150
Pistons send out $17,780,800

Mavs recieve $3,093,411
Mavs send out $3,028,410

Warriors recieve $19,028,410
Warriors send out $19,138,761

Pistons get:
'18 2nd (top 40) + '20 2nd (UP)
C J. Okafor

Wolves get:
'18 2nd (HOU pick)
PF J. Leuer

76ers get:
'19 1st (Right to swap: DET-PHI)*
C C. Aldrich

*: pistons would recieve '19 2nd (NYK pick) and '20 2nd (DAL pick) if PHI excerices the swap

Pistons add 2 draft picks with a possible 3 more if the 76ers swap 1st in 2019. They recieve a 2nd that's top 40 protected in 2018 and a 2020 2nd that's unprotected from the Wolves. They also recieve Okafor who replaces Leuer on the depth chart.

Wolves add a 2018 2nd that's HOUs pick and Leuer (whos from Minnesota) to play at PF.

76ers add a right to swap 2019 1st round picks with the Pistons and if they choose to do so, theyd give them a 2019 2nd (Knicks pick) and a 2020 2nd (Mavs pick). They also recieve Aldrich to be a replacement for Okafor on the depth chart. His salary for the 2018-2019 season is partial guaranteed.

PG Jason Terry or Trey Burke
1 year $2,000,000
$3,000,000 team option in year 2

SG James Young
1 year $1,250,000
$1,250,000 team option in year 2

Terry provides 3 point shooting and veteran leadership. Burke adds youth. Young adds youth and athleticism.

Avery Bradley
Ish Smith
Jason Terry / Trey Burke
Klay Thompson
Langston Galloway
James Young
Stanley Johnson
Luke Kennard
Reggie Bullock
Tobias Harris
Jahlil Okafor
Anthony Tolliver
Andre Drummond
Boban Marjanovic
Eric Moreland

27 Aug 2017 18:55:40
Sooooooo. Pistons give up Reggie Jackson, Henry Ellenson, and a 2nd rounder. And they get Klay Thompson? I hope this is a joke.

27 Aug 2017 19:31:42
I said unprotected 1st round in 2018, lol.

27 Aug 2017 19:55:30
I'm not even sure Jackson has positive value at this point.

27 Aug 2017 21:49:20
Lol is right to that trade, it's a joke.

27 Aug 2017 23:23:08
I'm confused as to why Golden State does this trade.

26 Aug 2017 19:19:24
Cleveland Cavaliers - Miami Heat fan made trade proposal if the Celtics trade falls apart.

Cleveland trades: Kyrie Irving, Tristan Thompson and Channing Frye (expiring, match salaries)

Miami trades: Goran Dragic, Hassan Whiteside.

Why Cleveland should do this:
Cleveland has LeBron, so they should be thinking win now. Forget about future draft picks; it hurts the value of players you receive in a trade.

Dragic is a very underrated point guard, a great replacement for Kyrie. The real coup here though, is Whiteside. He's a guy the Warriors would have no answer for.

Why Miami does this: Kyrie, surprisingly, had Miami on his list of teams he wanted to get traded to. He's the best player in this trade. TT is young and a decent player at the C.

26 Aug 2017 19:06:17
Cleveland Cavaliers - Miami Heat fan made trade proposal if the Celtics trade falls apart.

Cleveland trades: Kyrie Irving, Hassan Whiteside and Channing Frye (expiring, match salaries)

Miami trades: Goran Dragic, Hassan Whiteside.

Why Cleveland should do this:
Cleveland has LeBron, so they should be thinking win now. Forget about future draft picks; it hurts the value of players you receive in a trade.

Dragic is a very underrated point guard, a great replacement for Kyrie. The real coup here though, is Whiteside. He's a guy the Warriors would have no answer for.

Why Miami does this: Kyrie, surprisingly, had Miami on his list of teams he wanted to get traded to. He's the best player in this trade. TT is young and a decent player at the C.

26 Aug 2017 19:25:13
Cleveland trades: Kyrie Irving, TRISTAN THOMPSON.

26 Aug 2017 19:50:06
Don't believe either the Celtics or the Cavs want to void the deal. Sounds like the package they got for Kyrie was the best available. Neither Kyrie or IT, could go back to their former teams after this.

27 Aug 2017 01:01:43
Agree to a point Yumbo, I think it puts the Celtics in a worse position though. They now have their best player wanting out and other teams are going to be pretty weary of taking him on with the hip injury and expiring contract. I think the Celtics add one of their own picks ( with the young talent, future picks, and limited roster space it's not a huge lose ) . If this was calculated by the Cavs, wow, I applaud. They have the Celtics in a rough spot. That said, I'm curious how other gms end up feeling about this. The Cavs might win in the short term, but lose in the long term.

27 Aug 2017 06:45:58
I agree with Yumbo and Rkenne. There is no way that this trade should be voided because the Cavs already had other trade discussion and I bet the 2018 Nets pick may of been brought up in specific situations so not having it for the Cavs would be hard. Plus Bostons sold out the seasons tickets I believe so what would Boston say and do. Eventually Bostons hand will be forced and they will give an additional first round pick in the future. Last thing Cavs want is another player, so unless it's Brown or Tatum and Good luck getting them.

25 Aug 2017 16:16:27
Cavs still need to become a bit more versatile to beat the Warriors

•Trade Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, and own 2018 1st to Indiana for Thad Young

•Waive Kay Felder and re-sign him to a 2-way contract

•Sign James Young 1yr minimum

PG: Thomas, Rose, Calderon
SG: Smith, Korver, Young
SF: James, Crowder, Osman
PF: Love, Young, Green
C: Thompson, Zizic, Tavares.

25 Aug 2017 17:22:27
If James Young is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.

25 Aug 2017 17:44:17
Yes, if it were James Young, I agree Collider, but since it's Thad Young and the question is who is you're 3rd or 4th man off the bench, that's a pretty good answer.

25 Aug 2017 19:54:07
•Sign James Young 1yr minimum.

25 Aug 2017 20:01:48
James Young is listed as a 3rd stringer and he'd likely be behind Osman too, so I don't think I stated he's the answer to anything.

26 Aug 2017 00:56:40
Still there's no sense in signing James Young.

25 Aug 2017 11:29:52
Cleveland Cavaliers - New Orleans Pelicans

Cleveland trades: Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, Cedi Osman and BKN '18 first round pick.

New Orleans trades: DeMarcus Cousins.

The only way cavs can beat the warriors is by exploiting their weakness (their center position) . Nobody on the warriors will be able to stop Cousins down low.

Another interesting option is Carmelo. In small ball lineups Melo is deadly. However, I feel like Cousins could have a bigger impact against the Dubs.

25 Aug 2017 13:17:20
This is a tough one as it's yes and no at the same time for me.

I agree that Cousins could be a difference maker, but with him also being an FA, LBJ, IT and him could all leave, and that Brooklyn pick is a huge building block should that happen. I'm inclined to think that if they move that pick, it will be for someone under contract past this year.

25 Aug 2017 13:24:28
Triangle O: That's the worst case scenerio. If LBJ commits long term, I could see uthe cavs being able to retain both Boogie and Isaiah as well.

25 Aug 2017 13:52:59
I'm also kind of at a loss of what to think about a trade like this. Honestly Jordan, Drummond, and Cousins I would all consider trading the Nets 1st for but I agree with Cousins it would be difficult to give up the pick for another 1 year player since Cousins, Bron, and Thomas potentially could leave. The thing is though even if 2 of the 3 leave and the Cavs only retain one of them, they can still remain relevant with that one player and Love if they want to still compete and not totally rebuild. If all three do leave though that's 60 mil off the books so a lot of options o consider.

25 Aug 2017 15:46:25
I think if it's Cousins, you do it. The guy gives you a player that GS can't handle and who is actually a good defender athletic enough to keep on the floor. Drummond and Jordan in my opinion, don't really do much that Tristan can't do (they do do somethings better) . If you could get one of those two without the Brooklyn pick, it's probably worth it, but Cousins is the only one good enough to almost guarantee Lebron stays.

18 Aug 2017 17:02:38
NYK - CLE - HOU - MIL Trade

New York Trades Carmelo Anthony and Kyle O'Quinn
New York Receives Greg Monroe, Spencer Hawes, Isaiah Taylor, Tim Quarterman, Chinanu Onauku, and Shawn Long

Cleveland Trades Kevin Love and Iman Shumpert
Cleveland Receives Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, Jabari Parker, and Kyle O'Quinn

Houston trades Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, Ryan Anderson, Tim Quarterman, Shawn Long, Isaiah Taylor, and Chinanu Onauku
Houston Receives Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Love

Milwaukee trades Jabari Parker, Greg Monroe, and Spencer Hawes
Milwaukee receives Ryan Anderson and Iman Shumpert

Why each team makes the trade?
New York rids themselves of their Melo drama in exchange for non guaranteed deals and expiring contracts.

Cleveland takes a chance on Jabari. His numbers were fantastic this past year but there are obvious concerns about his knees. They solidify their bench by adding last year's 6th man of the year (Gordon) . Ariza is a great 3 and D complement who can start until Jabari returns. Kyle O'Quinn can fill the role of backup center because the Cavs are extremely weak here as Tavares is the only center on the roster besides Thiompson. I think this is the best move the cavs could make. Deepen their roster and give Lebron more weapons.

Milwaukee takes a risk on Anderson in this trade. He does not fit into Kidd's defensive scheme but his 3pt shooting is desperately needed. The Bucks finished in the bottom 10 in 3pt fgs made last year. Ridding themselves of Monroe's contract and receiving a good 3 and D wing in Shumpert sweetens the deal for the bucks. I think they take this.

Houston gets 2 all stars in this trade and become the second team with a Big 4. This team has enough firepower to compete with the warriors. There would be concerns with the lack of backcourt depth but I believe D'Antoni would be able to stagger Paul and Harden's minutes so one of them is always on the floor.

I'd love to hear everyone's opinions.

18 Aug 2017 17:50:11
The Knicks would be better off buying out Melo. They would save a significant amount of money and they don't really recieve anything they would value in the trade

It's not terrible for the Cavs, but with Irving with a foot out the door and Parker's knee injuries, the Cavs are probably better off keeping Love for now. If he has a big season as the 2nd option, his value could increase by a ton.

It's a no brainer for Houston. They win this deal by a mile.

The Bucks get robbed blind. Monroe is expiring and when healthy Parker is far better and younger than anything they get back. Houston is going to have to package a first with Anderson just to get someone to take on his huge contract. They can't expect to get anymore than expiring contracts in a deal for him.

19 Aug 2017 02:37:04
Knicks will not buy out Melo because he would still be on the books. Trading him would reduce salary cap. If they don't get anything they like in trade-they will keep him. Either he expands trade partner list or he gets old with no title chances.

19 Aug 2017 03:14:26
Mitchsam, Melo can opt out after this year. Buyouts are negotiated. The Knicks would save a few million this year, wouldn't have to worry about Melo getting hurt and opting in next year (there would be no cap hold for Melo next year) and not have a pouting Melo in their locker.
Unless they can get an asset or two and not take on any bad contracts in a trade, it's going to me a much better option than keeping Melo or wasting cap space on bad contracts.

23 Aug 2017 15:28:40
Milwaukee could also trade Giannis zhou Qi to Houston.

17 Aug 2017 15:19:38
What if??
Kyrie goes to Spurs in 3 team deal involving aldridge (send back to Portland)

Melo goes to Rockets with Paul and Harden

Davis goes to Celtics with Thomas

Westbrook, George and Love(via trade) to Lakers with Lonzo Ball and Ingram

LeBron, Wade and Rose teaming up with Whiteside, Dragic and Winslow in Miami

DAndre Jordan to Bucks with Giannis, Brogdon and Middleton

Cousins to Wizards, reuniting with Wall

Nba top East teams would be Heat, Celtics, Wizards, Bucks, Raptors and Sixers

Nba top West teams would be Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Lakers, Wolves and Blazers

17 Aug 2017 15:51:54
Ok, how about proposing an actual trade.

17 Aug 2017 16:12:39
I see. And the other teams are just going to hand over their Superstars because we need 12 teams to have all the talent. try posting a trade idea instead of a "what if"

17 Aug 2017 16:34:23
The Spurs really don't have much of value to offer the Cavs and I don't see Portland being willing to give up much for Aldridge.

Melo to Houston still could happen, but at this point it seems like a long shot. Unless either Ny or Houston drastically change their stances it doesn't even seem close.

The Celtics would have to offer NO something ridiculous to even make it a conversation. From the Pelicans stand point, why trade Davis right now?

Outside of Ingram and Ball, what would the Lakers have that the Cavs would be interested in? They would have to let Randle walk to sign the first two and would almost certainly have to include Deng in any trade for Love. It's not happening.

Riley screwed over Wade 2 years ago. I don't see him or Lebron being willing to go back.

I' don't see Jordan being a player that Milwaukee really needs. They're already a long team that's solid on defense. They need more shooting.

The Wizards are capped out for the next few years and don't have many valuable assets out side of Wall and Beal, I'm not sure how they would end up with Cousins.

16 Aug 2017 18:42:05
Kyrie has not been traded yet because the Cavs and Clippers are waiting for Beverly's and Lou Williams trade exceptions to expire on 8/ 27. Irving preferred destination is LAC. Makes sense for CLE to trade him to the West and try to strengthen a team to take out GSW.


CLE get: Patrick Beverly, Lou Williams, Sam Dekker, and Deandre Jordan

pg. Beverly/ Rose
sg. Korver/ Williams
sf. James/ Smith/ Jefferson
pf. Love/ Frye
c. Jordan/ Tavares

LAC get: Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson

pg. Irving/ Teodisic
sg. Rivers/ Liggins
sf. Gallinari/ W. Johnson
pf. Griffin/ B. Johnson
c. Thompson/ Harrell

16 Aug 2017 19:16:01
Pretty awful return for the cavs.

16 Aug 2017 23:20:47
Add in a pick or two from the Clips and I could see this being more realistic.

10 Aug 2017 14:06:42
A few Nuggets moves just for fun.


Denver gets Klay Thompson, Looney, McCaw
GSW get Wilson Chandler, Murray, Harris, 1st rounder
***GSW can't keep everyone together forever and Klay seems to be the star that would be the odd man out. This is a great return for them.


Denver gets Jordan Clarkson
Lakers get Jameer Nelson, Will Barton
***Lakers want cap room for next summer. If they strike out on the big names, Barton at lest still has potential.


Denver gets Kyle Singler, 2nd rounder (CHI)
Thunder get Trey Lyles
***Thunder could use another big and Denver could use the asset.

With these moves, Denver puts together a really nice team to compete in the West.

Clarkson, Mudiay, Morris
Thompson, Beasley, McCaw
Looney, Singler
Milsap, Faried, Arthur
Jokic, Plumlee


10 Aug 2017 14:27:07
Clarkson isn't a starting pg (he's better at the two or a combo guard off the bench) and I don't see the Nuggets being willing to give up both Harris and Murray in any deal. One of the two would be best case scenario.

10 Aug 2017 09:16:03

CLE get Payton , Fournier , Ariza , Vucevic & 1st from ORL
* get a haul that could let them contend better with the Warriors


NY get Shumpert , Ross , Frye & HOU 1st
get rid of Noah while getting some wing guys to replace Melo


HOU get Anthony & Jefferson
get their big 3


ORL get Irving , Thomas , Anderson & Noah
get a superstar PG and Anderson back. Noah returns to Florida


10 Aug 2017 14:35:55
I like it for everyone except Orlando. They take a ton on on bad contracts and end up with a terrible team that's capped out.

06 Aug 2017 23:40:19

GSW gets Drummond and Kennard

DET gets klay and john Henson

MIL gets Stanley Johnson and 1st rd pick from DET and Damion Jones


R. Jackson

Brogdon/ Snell
Giannis/ Stanley Johnson
Parker/ Beasley

07 Aug 2017 00:40:06
Mil needs to give more for sure. 2 young prospects and a first for Henson?

07 Aug 2017 00:54:35
Makes very little sense to me. The entire reason for Warriors to move Klay would be since it'll be too expensive to keep their big 4 together. Adding a more expensive Drummond I don't think makes any sense especially since he is worse than Klay. Kennard can help replace Klay's shooting some but they lose Klay's defense which is arguably even more important.

I think Klay would be great in a bigger role which Pistons would provide him. He and Bradley would create a fearsome 3 and D duo.

No idea why Bucks are in this trade. Henson isn't worth Detroit's first by itself let alone Johnson too. Pistons should be able to get a much better center for that.

07 Aug 2017 02:23:29
Golden State says no.

07 Aug 2017 13:23:48
Lol this is interesting because theyd probably turn kennard into a player like klay with worse defense tbh then fill out the starting 5 by adding a beast at center.

06 Aug 2017 22:44:13
Cle: M Gasol+ Conley+ C Anthony
trade: Irving+ Love+ Frye+ smith
Sign: D Wade after the Bulls wave him.

This would keep LBJ in cleveland. The team would be old, but they have a great bench, that could defeat the Warriors in the finals

C: Gasol/ thompson
PF: C Anthony/ Green
SF: LBJ/ Shumpert/ Osman
SG: K Korver/ D Wade
PG: Conley/ Rose

NY: K Irving+ K Love+ Frye
Trade: Porzingis+ Ntilikina+ Noah+ C Anthony

The team could sign a bigg free agent in 2018 (P George/ K Durant/ D cousins,...) propably cousins

C: D cousins
PF: K Love
SF: Kuzminskas
SG: Hardaway
PG: Irving

Memphis: Ntilikina+ Porzingis+ Noah+Smith
Memphis is an aging team, that would fight for the eight spot. so they can rebuilt with two young potential stars.

06 Aug 2017 23:49:10
NY isn't trading Porzingis.

07 Aug 2017 01:02:59
That Cavs team would be pretty tough in short term and even if Lebron left they could still move Conley and Gasol for some assets to rebuild with. If Lebron leaves they aren't likely to be very good so I think they may be best suited going all in.

I'm against Knicks moving Porzingis but I think this trade is tempting netting two all-stars. If Knicks still have cap space to give the max to a FA it gets more intriguing although who knows if they'd actually be able to attract one of those names.

I think a move like this to go young could make a lot of sense for Grizzlies especially since they land one of best young players in the league in Porzingis.

07 Aug 2017 14:04:41
Knicks would be the laughing stock to make this move.

07 Aug 2017 08:38:45
@ Toolguy

NY, shouldn't trade Porzingis, but this is a tempting trade for them.
They receive two all stars, that want to prove themselve.
They dump Noah's contract and they trade C Anthony for good value.
And they keep all their picks.
And with some small moves they have enough capspace to sign a third all star.

06 Aug 2017 18:21:14
Three Team Trade
Spurs receive: G Kyrie Irving, G Kay Felder
Suns receive: G Iman Shumpert, F Kyle Anderson, G Dejounte Murray, G Bryn Forbes, two future second round picks (Spurs)
Cavaliers receive: G Eric Bledsoe, G Danny Green, F Davis Bertans, 18' 1st Round Pick (Spurs)

PG Kyrie Irving / Patty Mills
SG Manu Ginobili / Derrick White
SF Kawhi Leonard / Rudy Gay
PF LaMarcus Aldridge / David Lee
C Pau Gasol / Joffrey Lauvergne

PG Dejounte Murray / Tyler Ulis
SG Devin Booker / Iman Shumpert
SF Josh Jackson / T.J. Warren
PF Marquese Chriss/Kyle Anderson
C Tyson Chandler / Dragan Bender

PG Eric Bledsoe / Derrick Rose
SG Danny Green / J.R. Smith
SF LeBron James / Kyle Korver
PF Kevin Love / Richard Jefferson
C Tristan Thompson/Channing Frye

Spurs create Big 3 to challenge Golden State atop the West. Suns get a promising young guard in Murray, a frontcourt player in Anderson, and a defensive wing in Shumpert in exchange for Bledsoe who doesn't fit their timeline. The Cavs don't get much worse without Kyrie as Bledsoe and Rose can handle the guard position, adding one of the five best defensive wings in the league in Green, and netting a draft pick in the process, which is important considering LeBron's uncertain future. This team may actually be better fitted to match up against Golden State than the one with Kyrie Irving on it.

06 Aug 2017 21:24:16
That's not enough to get Bledsoe and I don't think the Cavs are going to make any trade with out a player with a bunch of upside.

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