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27 May 2017 11:46:51
Orl & Pho

Orl get 4th pick and Knight
Draft Tatum
Pho get 6th pick and Ross
Draft Issac

Orl get Sf and Pg scoring help which they need knight is versatile enough that he could play a little sg next to Payton for short bursts of time. Tatum is the scorer they could really do with, they can use Hezonja as backup sg and see what he's actually made of.

Pho add Ross who can play either wing position so good backup for Booker and good guy between Booker and Chriss which gives them time to develop Issac who could be a great fit as a perimeter defender and another shooter giving them plenty of scoring options and once Issac and Chriss have developed a good perimeter defensive pairing with options to play many different lineups. They are guard heavy and losing knight hasn't really been productive isn't much of a loss when they have Ulis who projects as a good backup.

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1.) 27 May 2017 14:18:00
A modification to your proposed deal here. ORL sends the 6th and Ross to PHX. PHX sends Bledsoe and the 2018 Miami 1st round pick to the Magic. Suns draft a PG with number 4 . or number 6.


2.) 27 May 2017 16:40:08
Phxfan, with Bledsoe's injury history, I don't think he has that kind of value.


3.) 27 May 2017 16:44:22
Plus Orlando is in the middle of a rebuild. At worse with this trade they end up moving up a few spots in the draft and get a low risk high reward player. In your scenario if Bledsoe doesn't work out, they lose young assets for nothing for a 2nd time.


4.) 27 May 2017 18:25:07
No thank Phxfan My proposal was more equal. The Miami pick is a risk as it may not be a top 10 lottery pick in a loaded draft like this one. Bledsoe injury concerns also are a no go. Least my trade offers good assets for both sides and fills needs Orl get scoring at two of their weakest positions Pho get a talented high potential player in Issac who arguably has the highest ceiling in this draft and Ross can play sg/ sf he's a 4th or 5th option and when Issac has developed a good 6th man for a team with a weak bench.


5.) 27 May 2017 19:08:39
Suns already have a SG in Booker and a SF in Warren. Bledsoe might be "damaged goods" to some (his knees are no worse than CP3's) . but the way the NBA sees things, there will be teams that see his 20 ppg/ 5 rb/ 6 asst plus good defense numbers. and will make a deal. What Bledsoe is not. is a pass first PG which is what PHX needs. He would be a difference maker (likely as a 6th man) on many teams. Don't be shocked in the Suns find a taker and acquire a 2nd pick in the top 10.


6.) 27 May 2017 19:52:49
Phxfan not saying Bledsoe ain't a good player but he jus doesn't fit what Orl need to do now they need a star and theirs plenty of potential stars in this top 10 so why would the Magic give up that so That Suns could potentially get two potential stars for a later future pick and Bledsoe whose not going to make them any better.
You need to read what I wrote Ross will become a 6th man once Issac hasn't developed and would probably play sg next to Warren off then bench they don't need that many guards and could use the mins to develop ulis over Knight. My deal benefits both teams your deal only benefits Phoenix.


7.) 27 May 2017 21:50:03
Knight will be gone one way or the other this summer. Ulis will never be anymore than a backup PG. and in ORL, you have a new front office. so, how in the world do you have any idea as to what direction they may want to go? So, while you think your deal is equitable and all that. PHX isn't moving down 2 spots in this draft even if you include mostly anyone currently on the roster not named Gordon.


8.) 27 May 2017 23:38:07
I like this move pretty fair deal for both teams, Phxfan is dillusional proposes a rubbish return for the Magic
Gordon and the 6th for knight and the 4th your crazy no way Magic give up that for Knight jus to move up more people backing the proposal then your comments.
Phxfan you made me laugh how do we know what direction a teams heading no one does this is a site to propose ideas and speculate if you think these posts are facts then sorry to break the news but these are fab theories.


9.) 28 May 2017 03:03:10
Neither was equal. Both made ridiculous homer trades in which you drastically overvalue your own assets and claim it's fair. Neither are.


10.) 28 May 2017 05:19:02
Um. Nothing bu Net? I never said Gordon and the 6th for Knight and the 4th. What I did say was that PHX really doesn't like any current Magic player except Gordon. and he's staying in ORL. Others? Yeah, it's a homer deal. ORL might not be the team to take something like this. but some other team just might. after all, PHX did get Chriss with SAC's 8th pick for the rights to Bogdan Bogdanovic and a later pick .


 

 

19 May 2017 18:58:27
This is a crazy one but could benefit both teams.

Orl get Phi and Lal 1st rounders 2018

Phi get 6th pick
Draft Jackson and Monk

Orl tank next year with 3 1st rounders that's 3 chances at landing a top talent like Porter etc and hope that the Sixers and Lakers don't improve that much.

Phi get Monk and build a complete team of
Simmons, Monk, Jackson, Saric, Embiid.
With them and the lakers landing top picks they should be better so the 1st's should be later and they risk two unknown first rounders for the 6th which gets them a decent player in a loaded draft.

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1.) 19 May 2017 21:06:01
Its definitely a roll of the dice for the 76ers that I think may be worth it. Jackson is a tremendous talent they'd be foolish to pass on while Monk would be a great fit as a young perimeter threat. 76ers did go on a bit of a streak before Embiid got shut down so maybe it isn't unrealistic to expect them to compete for a playoff spot especially with Pacers and Bulls both potentially moving their stars. With Lakers bringing Magic aboard they seem poised to make a moves to try and compete and even if they don't that young team got off to a hot start last season so maybe being a year older and adding a talent like Ball they are able to sustain it longer. Additionally, the 2018 draft class is reportedly stocked with bigs so its questionable if they'd be able to find a player that would fit their team well (certainly none as well as Monk) . Only downside is that although Simmons, Monk, Jackson, Saric and Embiid would be a scary lineup it would be one that would be nearly impossible to sustain past their rookie deals with all being so close in age and likely to command sizeable contracts in RFA (a-la Thunder with Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka) .

For Orlando its a gamble as well. I project Tatum and Fox will be gone by #6 so they are looking at Issac, Monk and Smith. I don't see any of them being major difference makers for the Magic so maybe its worth getting what may still be two lotto picks (albeit later lotto picks) to add with their pick (which will likely be top 5) to revamp that roster or give them decent chips to play with.


2.) 19 May 2017 22:22:07
The Magic have had bad luck in the draft Falling nearly every year missing out on Embiid and Porzingis who were taken pick before theirs. They have no future First rounders except their own and with no star or draw for decent free agents it's probs best to put themselves in the best position to land a young Star otherwise they will be at best a team fighting for the 8th seed.

The contracts will be close regardless if they draft two players or one in this lottery but they got a few years to sort that out they have so many assets in 2nd rounders and draft and stash players etc that they can afford to get flexible later o and trade pieces for cheaper contracts, picks or cap space etc.


3.) 20 May 2017 01:05:02
Ballsy, but I like it for both teams Orlando aren't getting what they need at 6 and that Philly lineup could grow into something special.


 

 

17 May 2017 15:36:47
Phi and Sac

Phi get 5th and 10th pick
Draft: Monk and Ntilikina

Sac get 3rd pick
Draft: Jackson

Phi do it as Monk seems the best fit in my opinions Simmons and Embiid are going to draw so much attention giving Monk space to work and having a 6'10 pg will compensate for Monks lack of size and other weaknesses. Ntilikina gives them options at pg in the future but he can develop off the bench for now and he has a good jumper which look good all the way out to the 3 giving them more floor spreading.

Sac get Jackson whose two way game could fit nicely between two shooters in Heild and Skal, His perimeter defence will help complement WCS rim protection and will hopefully be a step in the right direction for them.

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1.) 17 May 2017 15:47:13
If I am Sacramento, I pass. I don't think Jackson is good enough to offset them not getting a PG in the draft and another good prospect.


2.) 17 May 2017 16:01:41
If I'm Sacramento, I keep 5 and 10, and take whoever is left from Jackson, Tatum and Fox. I assume Fultz and Ball are 1-2 at this point. Then, at 10, they might have a Pg available in Ntilikina or Smith if they had previously taken a SF, or they can go for someone like Issaac, Monk or Markkanen. The draft is deep enough that two top ten picks are more valuable than a top 3 guy. Especially in Sacramento's situation.


3.) 17 May 2017 16:02:52
Sacramento needs a lot of help. They're better off with 2 picks.


 

 

17 May 2017 15:29:16
Orl & Dal
I think the top 10 goes like this.

Bos- Fultz
Lal- Ball
Phi- Jackson or Tatum
Pho- Jackson or Tatum
Sac- Issac
Orl-Fox
Min- Markkanen
Nyk- Monk
Dal- Smith Jr
Sac- Ntilikina

Orl get 9th pick and 2018 pick top 5 protected.
Draft: Smith Jr

Dal get 6th pick
Draft: Markkanen

Orl do it to add a Pg of the future if he can stay healthy and future pick as they need to get assets after 5 years of bad luck in the draft their still no closer to getting their star.

Dal have been high on Markkanen due to the ideal fit next to Noel and the learning from Dirk but I'd say with Sac taken 5th they will likely take a forward as it's likely the 10th pick will be a guard and that limits Min options as everyone had them taking Issac and with him off the board Markkanen seems the best fit so by doing this trade they get their guy.

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1.) 17 May 2017 22:12:48
I don't like the value for Dallas especially when many other teams (maybe not Dallas) have Zach Collins, who can also be a stretch big, higher than Markkanen. Regardless I don't think Ferrel is the long term answer for them at pg so Mavs are probably better off getting Smith (Knicks may take him tho) as point guard is a much more important position than pf. They could then try and nab someone like Nikola Mirotic in RFA.


 

 

02 Feb 2017 11:36:37
Orl and Bos

Orl get Johnson exp, Zizic and the rights to switch their pick with brooklyns if that's possible
Bos get Vucevic

Orl do it to continue their build and get a top pg hopefully get some cap flexibility and a young player
Bos get a player that fills theirs needs on a cheap contract and while they get a lesser pick brooklyns pick lands them a pg where as the Magic pick looks around 4-5 unless it jumps and they could get someone like Jackson at sg/ sf or Issac at sf/ pf this is if they can't land a star at the deadline with the Cavs struggling bows the time to go all in.

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1.) 02 Feb 2017 13:17:15
In Boston gives up that Brooklyn pick (which will be no worse than 3rd overall and has a shot at being No. 1), it will be for a lot more than Vucevic. And the Celtics would throw in Zizic and Johnson? Really?
If the ping pong balls go against the Celtics (yet again) and Boston winds up with No. 3 overall and Orlando has No. 4, Boston might swap those picks and take Vucevic in the deal. But that's about it.


2.) 02 Feb 2017 13:36:39
Boston can't "trade the Brooklyn pick. " because they don't own it outright. They have the option to swap picks with Brooklyn. So any deal involving that pick would mean they traded their own pick, putting them out of the first round altogether. They may do that, but certainly not for Vucevic.


3.) 02 Feb 2017 14:37:06
To the Boston fans look at it from Orl point Johnson is on expiring so it's not going to be straight up for Vucevic who is a underrated player he's a good offensive player and has made improvements on defence obviously he has his limitations but he fills the needs of bostons current weaknesses of rebounding and some post scoring. Zizic is added as the main piece of attraction as if the Magic get a higher pick in the lottery then Brooklyn they would walk away with nothing for Vucevic. I did say if they can't make a trade for a star they need to make a change if they wanna take advantage of the Cavs while their struggling.


4.) 02 Feb 2017 14:45:22
Supercollider you kidding Johnson is a bencher I'd take Vucevic over him A starting Center who can average a Double double and I checked the contracts Vucevic is on a cheaper contract then Johnson. If no deal for Butler goes through I'd be interested.


5.) 02 Feb 2017 16:28:41
Nothing but Net. Johnson's contract is expiring, and the Celtics want cap flexibility. Johnson starts most games for the Celtics and has playing well, they wouldn't trade Brooklyn pick and Ante Zizic who has looked very good for Vucevic.


6.) 02 Feb 2017 16:28:41
Nothing but Net. Johnson's contract is expiring, and the Celtics want cap flexibility. Johnson starts most games for the Celtics and has playing well, they wouldn't trade Brooklyn pick and Ante Zizic who has looked very good for Vucevic.


7.) 02 Feb 2017 17:41:22
Hey TB, should you be focusing on Sundays game and be preparing to squeeze the crap out of Goodells hand twice with a big smile. One for the SB MVP and the other because Robert Kraft elected to have you be presented the Vince Lombardi Trophy.


 

 

 

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27 May 2017 19:52:49
Phxfan not saying Bledsoe ain't a good player but he jus doesn't fit what Orl need to do now they need a star and theirs plenty of potential stars in this top 10 so why would the Magic give up that so That Suns could potentially get two potential stars for a later future pick and Bledsoe whose not going to make them any better.
You need to read what I wrote Ross will become a 6th man once Issac hasn't developed and would probably play sg next to Warren off then bench they don't need that many guards and could use the mins to develop ulis over Knight. My deal benefits both teams your deal only benefits Phoenix.

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27 May 2017 18:25:07
No thank Phxfan My proposal was more equal. The Miami pick is a risk as it may not be a top 10 lottery pick in a loaded draft like this one. Bledsoe injury concerns also are a no go. Least my trade offers good assets for both sides and fills needs Orl get scoring at two of their weakest positions Pho get a talented high potential player in Issac who arguably has the highest ceiling in this draft and Ross can play sg/ sf he's a 4th or 5th option and when Issac has developed a good 6th man for a team with a weak bench.

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22 May 2017 09:07:00
This a trade idea on Bleacher Report, I'm a Magic fan but I look at things realistically while I think Monk is a perfect fit and Ross is a young vet on an ok contract I think Sixers would want more for a star potential 3rd pick in Jackson. Getting the 2nd rounder when they already have loads won't cut it so maybe a future asset as theirs not much on Magic's roster they want.
Sixers could trade down and having a guy like Monk could be like what Ray Allen was like for Boston. If they did I think they could have a bidding war between Orl, Pho, Nyk, Sac, Dal etc.

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21 May 2017 07:39:40
So Magic give up
Ross, 33rd pick
For
Deng, Mcw and 38th pick

They add a older player on a bad contract a pg with very similar flaws to Payton and a lesser 2nd rounder. Dillusional lakers fan strikes again.

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19 May 2017 22:22:07
The Magic have had bad luck in the draft Falling nearly every year missing out on Embiid and Porzingis who were taken pick before theirs. They have no future First rounders except their own and with no star or draw for decent free agents it's probs best to put themselves in the best position to land a young Star otherwise they will be at best a team fighting for the 8th seed.

The contracts will be close regardless if they draft two players or one in this lottery but they got a few years to sort that out they have so many assets in 2nd rounders and draft and stash players etc that they can afford to get flexible later o and trade pieces for cheaper contracts, picks or cap space etc.

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