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31 Jan 2018 10:38:58
Detroit and Orlando

Pistons get Fournier, Payton and Hezonja

Orlando get Jackson, Johnson, Kennard and 2020 1st lottery protected

Piston go win now Fournier contract matches Jackson's and he will give them what SVG has been looking for a reliable floor spacer which also give Drummond and Griffin room to operate. Payton isn't the scorer Jackson is but he's the passer they need and he can drive and dish or pass inside and with playing with Gordon he will be more then capable with getting the ball to Griffin. Hezonja needs a restart and SVG is the guy that can make use of a Player like him and both will come cheap. Drummond and Griffin are better defensively and will hide any weaknesses these guys have.

Orlando get some young pieces and shake things up Johnson like Hezonja needs a fresh start his defence fits Vogel's style and if he works with Gordon's shooting coach may even maximise his potential. Kennard is a good shooter like a Reddick type but is having trouble with match ups and guarding nba guards so he will also need time to develop. They take on Jackson who is more a scorer off the bench now as he can't run the show and as he's overpaid for his production IMO they also get a future first as he's paid through to 2020 which with Biyombo doesn't give them much flexibility. They could grab Young in the draft whose outside shooting and passing would do well with the athletic defencive players like Ross, Johnson, Simmons, Issac, Gordon, Biyombo a team with those pieces could be a great fit for Young and even Jackson.

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27 May 2017 11:46:51
Orl & Pho

Orl get 4th pick and Knight
Draft Tatum
Pho get 6th pick and Ross
Draft Issac

Orl get Sf and Pg scoring help which they need knight is versatile enough that he could play a little sg next to Payton for short bursts of time. Tatum is the scorer they could really do with, they can use Hezonja as backup sg and see what he's actually made of.

Pho add Ross who can play either wing position so good backup for Booker and good guy between Booker and Chriss which gives them time to develop Issac who could be a great fit as a perimeter defender and another shooter giving them plenty of scoring options and once Issac and Chriss have developed a good perimeter defensive pairing with options to play many different lineups. They are guard heavy and losing knight hasn't really been productive isn't much of a loss when they have Ulis who projects as a good backup.

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1.) 27 May 2017 14:18:00
A modification to your proposed deal here. ORL sends the 6th and Ross to PHX. PHX sends Bledsoe and the 2018 Miami 1st round pick to the Magic. Suns draft a PG with number 4 . or number 6.


2.) 27 May 2017 16:40:08
Phxfan, with Bledsoe's injury history, I don't think he has that kind of value.


3.) 27 May 2017 16:44:22
Plus Orlando is in the middle of a rebuild. At worse with this trade they end up moving up a few spots in the draft and get a low risk high reward player. In your scenario if Bledsoe doesn't work out, they lose young assets for nothing for a 2nd time.


4.) 27 May 2017 18:25:07
No thank Phxfan My proposal was more equal. The Miami pick is a risk as it may not be a top 10 lottery pick in a loaded draft like this one. Bledsoe injury concerns also are a no go. Least my trade offers good assets for both sides and fills needs Orl get scoring at two of their weakest positions Pho get a talented high potential player in Issac who arguably has the highest ceiling in this draft and Ross can play sg/ sf he's a 4th or 5th option and when Issac has developed a good 6th man for a team with a weak bench.


5.) 27 May 2017 19:08:39
Suns already have a SG in Booker and a SF in Warren. Bledsoe might be "damaged goods" to some (his knees are no worse than CP3's) . but the way the NBA sees things, there will be teams that see his 20 ppg/ 5 rb/ 6 asst plus good defense numbers. and will make a deal. What Bledsoe is not. is a pass first PG which is what PHX needs. He would be a difference maker (likely as a 6th man) on many teams. Don't be shocked in the Suns find a taker and acquire a 2nd pick in the top 10.


6.) 27 May 2017 19:52:49
Phxfan not saying Bledsoe ain't a good player but he jus doesn't fit what Orl need to do now they need a star and theirs plenty of potential stars in this top 10 so why would the Magic give up that so That Suns could potentially get two potential stars for a later future pick and Bledsoe whose not going to make them any better.
You need to read what I wrote Ross will become a 6th man once Issac hasn't developed and would probably play sg next to Warren off then bench they don't need that many guards and could use the mins to develop ulis over Knight. My deal benefits both teams your deal only benefits Phoenix.


7.) 27 May 2017 21:50:03
Knight will be gone one way or the other this summer. Ulis will never be anymore than a backup PG. and in ORL, you have a new front office. so, how in the world do you have any idea as to what direction they may want to go? So, while you think your deal is equitable and all that. PHX isn't moving down 2 spots in this draft even if you include mostly anyone currently on the roster not named Gordon.


8.) 27 May 2017 23:38:07
I like this move pretty fair deal for both teams, Phxfan is dillusional proposes a rubbish return for the Magic
Gordon and the 6th for knight and the 4th your crazy no way Magic give up that for Knight jus to move up more people backing the proposal then your comments.
Phxfan you made me laugh how do we know what direction a teams heading no one does this is a site to propose ideas and speculate if you think these posts are facts then sorry to break the news but these are fab theories.


9.) 28 May 2017 03:03:10
Neither was equal. Both made ridiculous homer trades in which you drastically overvalue your own assets and claim it's fair. Neither are.


10.) 28 May 2017 05:19:02
Um. Nothing bu Net? I never said Gordon and the 6th for Knight and the 4th. What I did say was that PHX really doesn't like any current Magic player except Gordon. and he's staying in ORL. Others? Yeah, it's a homer deal. ORL might not be the team to take something like this. but some other team just might. after all, PHX did get Chriss with SAC's 8th pick for the rights to Bogdan Bogdanovic and a later pick .


 

 

19 May 2017 18:58:27
This is a crazy one but could benefit both teams.

Orl get Phi and Lal 1st rounders 2018

Phi get 6th pick
Draft Jackson and Monk

Orl tank next year with 3 1st rounders that's 3 chances at landing a top talent like Porter etc and hope that the Sixers and Lakers don't improve that much.

Phi get Monk and build a complete team of
Simmons, Monk, Jackson, Saric, Embiid.
With them and the lakers landing top picks they should be better so the 1st's should be later and they risk two unknown first rounders for the 6th which gets them a decent player in a loaded draft.

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1.) 19 May 2017 21:06:01
Its definitely a roll of the dice for the 76ers that I think may be worth it. Jackson is a tremendous talent they'd be foolish to pass on while Monk would be a great fit as a young perimeter threat. 76ers did go on a bit of a streak before Embiid got shut down so maybe it isn't unrealistic to expect them to compete for a playoff spot especially with Pacers and Bulls both potentially moving their stars. With Lakers bringing Magic aboard they seem poised to make a moves to try and compete and even if they don't that young team got off to a hot start last season so maybe being a year older and adding a talent like Ball they are able to sustain it longer. Additionally, the 2018 draft class is reportedly stocked with bigs so its questionable if they'd be able to find a player that would fit their team well (certainly none as well as Monk) . Only downside is that although Simmons, Monk, Jackson, Saric and Embiid would be a scary lineup it would be one that would be nearly impossible to sustain past their rookie deals with all being so close in age and likely to command sizeable contracts in RFA (a-la Thunder with Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka) .

For Orlando its a gamble as well. I project Tatum and Fox will be gone by #6 so they are looking at Issac, Monk and Smith. I don't see any of them being major difference makers for the Magic so maybe its worth getting what may still be two lotto picks (albeit later lotto picks) to add with their pick (which will likely be top 5) to revamp that roster or give them decent chips to play with.


2.) 19 May 2017 22:22:07
The Magic have had bad luck in the draft Falling nearly every year missing out on Embiid and Porzingis who were taken pick before theirs. They have no future First rounders except their own and with no star or draw for decent free agents it's probs best to put themselves in the best position to land a young Star otherwise they will be at best a team fighting for the 8th seed.

The contracts will be close regardless if they draft two players or one in this lottery but they got a few years to sort that out they have so many assets in 2nd rounders and draft and stash players etc that they can afford to get flexible later o and trade pieces for cheaper contracts, picks or cap space etc.


3.) 20 May 2017 01:05:02
Ballsy, but I like it for both teams Orlando aren't getting what they need at 6 and that Philly lineup could grow into something special.


 

 

17 May 2017 15:36:47
Phi and Sac

Phi get 5th and 10th pick
Draft: Monk and Ntilikina

Sac get 3rd pick
Draft: Jackson

Phi do it as Monk seems the best fit in my opinions Simmons and Embiid are going to draw so much attention giving Monk space to work and having a 6'10 pg will compensate for Monks lack of size and other weaknesses. Ntilikina gives them options at pg in the future but he can develop off the bench for now and he has a good jumper which look good all the way out to the 3 giving them more floor spreading.

Sac get Jackson whose two way game could fit nicely between two shooters in Heild and Skal, His perimeter defence will help complement WCS rim protection and will hopefully be a step in the right direction for them.

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1.) 17 May 2017 15:47:13
If I am Sacramento, I pass. I don't think Jackson is good enough to offset them not getting a PG in the draft and another good prospect.


2.) 17 May 2017 16:01:41
If I'm Sacramento, I keep 5 and 10, and take whoever is left from Jackson, Tatum and Fox. I assume Fultz and Ball are 1-2 at this point. Then, at 10, they might have a Pg available in Ntilikina or Smith if they had previously taken a SF, or they can go for someone like Issaac, Monk or Markkanen. The draft is deep enough that two top ten picks are more valuable than a top 3 guy. Especially in Sacramento's situation.


3.) 17 May 2017 16:02:52
Sacramento needs a lot of help. They're better off with 2 picks.


 

 

17 May 2017 15:29:16
Orl & Dal
I think the top 10 goes like this.

Bos- Fultz
Lal- Ball
Phi- Jackson or Tatum
Pho- Jackson or Tatum
Sac- Issac
Orl-Fox
Min- Markkanen
Nyk- Monk
Dal- Smith Jr
Sac- Ntilikina

Orl get 9th pick and 2018 pick top 5 protected.
Draft: Smith Jr

Dal get 6th pick
Draft: Markkanen

Orl do it to add a Pg of the future if he can stay healthy and future pick as they need to get assets after 5 years of bad luck in the draft their still no closer to getting their star.

Dal have been high on Markkanen due to the ideal fit next to Noel and the learning from Dirk but I'd say with Sac taken 5th they will likely take a forward as it's likely the 10th pick will be a guard and that limits Min options as everyone had them taking Issac and with him off the board Markkanen seems the best fit so by doing this trade they get their guy.

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1.) 17 May 2017 22:12:48
I don't like the value for Dallas especially when many other teams (maybe not Dallas) have Zach Collins, who can also be a stretch big, higher than Markkanen. Regardless I don't think Ferrel is the long term answer for them at pg so Mavs are probably better off getting Smith (Knicks may take him tho) as point guard is a much more important position than pf. They could then try and nab someone like Nikola Mirotic in RFA.


 

 

 

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16 Feb 2018 21:24:03
If philly land this years lakers pick the kings pick goes to Boston. As part of the Fultz deal.
Gordon adding a jumpshot has elevated his game and potential so Saric and a lottery pick is fair as Gordon has star potential but even if he does reach it he will still be a quality player and complement Philly core but not sure Orlando will part with him.

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08 Feb 2018 08:59:16
The pick belongs to Boston if it lands 2-6 so I doubt they can include it unless it’s a draft night trade and it belongs to the Sixers.

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07 Feb 2018 08:06:34
Why would magic need 3 Centers to go with another 2 they already have.

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05 Feb 2018 12:46:26
This isn’t to bad for Cavs as Dwight gives you some defence get some younger pieces on good contracts who can shoot also gives them lineup flexibility but not sure it’s good enough to compete for a title.
The magic give up 3 good contracts for the Nets pick basically which could land them a combo of Ayton/ Bagley/ Bamba and Doncic/ Young/ Sexton depending on the order but sure the pick is worth all of that.
Hornets don’t get much out of this besides maybe a little flexibility but their not attracting anyone and the best piece is Vucevic who wouldn’t fit with Kaminsky, Zeller or Frye making them worse.

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04 Feb 2018 18:40:54
Bad for the Magic doesn’t give them anything besides a first which is protected.

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