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30 Sep 2017 17:57:53
Cavs get Rudy Gobert

Jazz get Tristan Thompson, Richard Jefferson, and the Nets pick

The Cavs address their biggest weakness with this trade: defense. Gobert is the best defensive big man in the NBA at the moment and has upside considering his youth. Gobert also gives the Cavs a big advantage at the 5 over Golden State. Gobert gives the Cavs a legitimate chance at dethroning GSW.

The Jazz just lost their best offensive player in free agency and watched the rest of the western conference get better. They could build around Gobert and hope he develops into the kind of player who can lead a team to a chip (which is unlikely) or they could opt to rebuild. This trade gives the Jazz what will almost certainly be a top 5 pick in a very talented class with the Nets pick. Plus losing Gobert will make the Jazz one of the worst teams in the NBA so they could come away with two top 5 picks in 2018 to kickstart their re-build. Imagine if they get the top two picks and land Marvin Bagley III and Michael Porter Jr.

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1.) 01 Oct 2017 08:34:45
Cavs and Celtics fans swear that every gm is at their disposal for stealing player on this site more any elite teams.


2.) 01 Oct 2017 13:15:24
It would take more than that to get Gobert. The Cavs would have to give up Osman, Zizic, Thompson, The Brooklyn first, and one of their own firsts just to make it a conversation.


 

 

29 Sep 2017 15:42:42
If the CP3 experiment in Houston isn't going as planned at the deadline, maybe this trade would make sense.

Cavs get Chris Paul and Clint Capela

Rockets get Tristan Thompson, Isaiah Thomas, and the Nets pick

The Cavs add an elite playmaker to a squad already featuring two excellent playmakers in LBJ and D-Wade, and now they own 3/4 of the banana boat quartet (with Melo possibly hitting the market next summer). Paul's presence would take a ton of playmaking pressure off LeBron and would allow the King to focus on scoring, rebounding, and efficiency. Capela also provides a great young center to replace TT. CP3/Wade/LBJ/Love/Capela

If the CP3 experiment isn't working out, the Rockets would be wise to get value for him after everything they gave up for him. The Nets pick will almost for sure be a top five pick in what looks to be a very talented class, meaning the Rockets can add a blue chip player for Harden to mentor. Thompson is already signed long-term unlike Capela, so they won't have to worry about signing a big contract next summer. I'm not sure about IT's long-term status in Houston considering his defensive woes, but he could make a great 6th man or possible backcourt complement to Harden.

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1.) 29 Sep 2017 17:53:11
No way the Cavs aRe trading that pick in a deal for that. That's terrible for them.


2.) 29 Sep 2017 23:59:16
say cp resigns along side lebron. might not be such a bad caveat to trading the nets pick. and who needs IT when u have CP. i can see the logic in this deal.


 

 

27 Sep 2017 17:09:37
This is a long shot, but hear me out.

Cavs get Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins, and Omer Asik

Pelicans get Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson, Channing Frye, Brooklyn's first round pick, Cavs 2018 first round pick, Cavs 2020 first round pick, and Boston's second round pick

The Pelicans are at risk of losing Cousins in free agency, and if that happens they'll be at a big risk of losing Anthony Davis. In this trade the Pelicans move both of their stars for a coup of draft assets. Shedding Asik's ugly contract while adding Frye's expiring deal is also an incentive, and the team gets an all-star in Kevin Love who's under contract until 2020 to keep the fan base interested during their re-build.

The Cavs go all in on a championship run by assembling the greatest front court of all time. The Cavs sacrifice their future, but it'd be well worth it to add a generational talent like Davis and an elite center in Cousins. LeBron is almost guaranteed to finish his career in Cleveland if this goes down.

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1.) 28 Sep 2017 10:45:14
i don’t think there’s a single thing the cavs could offer NO that would make them budge on AD.


2.) 28 Sep 2017 12:38:05
Cavs already traded 2019 1st, so they have to keep their 2018 and 2020 1sts.


3.) 28 Sep 2017 14:36:49
I heard you out, and it is an incredibly awful trade proposal .


4.) 28 Sep 2017 15:50:45
The Pels are in no danger of losing Davis, he has years left on his contract.

The only players the Cavs would have had to offer the Pels to possibly move AD are LBJ and Irving before his move to the C's.


 

 

15 Aug 2017 17:33:37
Cavs get Joakim Noah, Tobias Harris, Jon Leur, Kristaps Porzingis, and Stanley Johnson

Cavs give Kevin Love, Kyrie Irving, and Iman Shumpert

Knicks get Kyrie Irving

Knicks give Joakim Noah and Kristaps Porzingis

Pistons get Kevin Love and Iman Shumpert

Pistons give Tobias Harris, Jon Leur, and Stanley Johnson

The Cavs have made Kristaps Porzingis their primary target in a Kyrie Irving trade. This trade allows the Cavs to pickup the 7'3 Latvian wonder-kid while moving their current Power Forward Kevin Love. Moving Love gives the Cavs a versatile and athletic forward Tobias Harris, a stretch four to replace Love in Leur, and a young forward in Stanley Johnson who can become LeBron's pupil. Picking up Noah's ugly contract hurts but at least he'd be a good backup center. This trade improves the Cavs depth and brightens their future.

The Knicks get their new face of the franchise in Kyrie Irving, a local grown talent who wants nothing more than to win in New York. Losing Porzingis hurts but I'd say it's worth it for the Knicks to bring in a 25 year old star point guard who happens to be the most clutch player in the league while ridding their selves of one of the worst contracts in the NBA (Noah's). Irving and Melo would instantly become a scary scoring duo and the two New Yorkers can work to recruit other stars in their attempt to revive the Knicks.

The Pistons add an All-Star to what is shaping up to be a very nice starting five. Jackson/Bradley/Shumpert/Love/Drummond contains a nice mixture of shooting, defense, and rebounding. Love gives the Pistons a clear leading scorer, and the frontcourt of Drummond and Love should dominate the boards. Shumpert and Bradley would make for a tough defensive wing, but SVG could also go with Kennard at the three to add even more shooting. The Pistons could possibly make a run in this weak eastern conference.

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1.) 15 Aug 2017 21:21:22
Can I change the proposal a little bit?
Knicks get Kyrie Irving and Tobias Harris
Pistons get Kevin Love and Joakim Noah
Cavaliers get Kristaps Porzingis, Stanley Johnson, Ish Smith, Lance Thomas and Jon Leuer

I feel Detroit should be the one that has to take on Noah's contract considering they are getting a top 30 player in Kevin Love for a subpar package of players. I also believe the Knicks would want something else for giving up Porzingis' future. Tobias Harris is a native New Yorker, grew up in Long Island, his family still resides in New York, and he is very close to Carmelo Anthony so I believe it would be ideal that he becomes a Knick. If the Knicks are willing to give up Porzingis for Irving, Melo and Kyrie are a great duo and there is enough role guys on the roster to where they could make the playoffs this season and recruit others in free agency next season. If the Cavs believe LeBron is going to leave, try and grab a future superstar in Porzingis now, Johnson is a young asset, Smith gives them another stopgap at PG along with Derrick Rose and Jose Calderon and they hopefully won't become the Brooklyn Nets after LeBron leaves.


 

 

27 Jul 2017 21:22:41
Cavs get Carmelo Anthony, Joakim Noah, and Kristaps Porzingis

Knicks get Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving

The Cavs get a good young player and star prospect in Porzingis and an established veteran scorer and good friend of LeBron in Carmelo to replace the duo of Kyrie and Love. The Cavs are forced to eat Noah's ugly contract as a sweetner for the Knicks. This trade would give the Cavs a huge and versatile lineup that should be better equipped to duel GSW. LBJ/Rose/Melo/Porzingis/Thompson would be a hell of a starting five that would dominate the boards, but the Cavs have many other possibilities for the starting five too.

Kyrie gets his wish of going to the Knicks and he brings his buddy Love with him as his new co-star. The Knicks rid their selves of Noah's ugly contract and end the Carmelo Anthony era. Losing Porzingis hurts but the Knicks get a ready-to-win face of the franchise in Irving that they can quickly build around and a 20-10 stretch four in Love.

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1.) 28 Jul 2017 02:04:22
Knicks are not trading Porzingis. STOP.


 

 

 

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13 Jul 2017 17:04:51
2013 NBA Re-Draft

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
Actual pick: Anthony Bennett, PF
Do-over pick: Giannis Antetokounmpo, SF

It didn't take the Cavs long to figure out that Anthony Bennett was one of the biggest draft busts in NBA history. A little over a year after the Cavs drafted Bennett, he was shipped to Minnesota in a deal that brought All-Star PF Kevin Love to CLE. Bennett has continued to do nothing as a T-wolf.

Meanwhile, the 15th overall pick Giannis Antetokounmpo has blossomed into an All-NBA Second Team player in just his fourth season. Giannis lead the Milwaukee Bucks in points, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals for the entire 2016-17 campaign(!) en route to a playoff berth. The Greek Freak is currently a three point shot away from becoming a consistent MVP threat.

Kyrie Irving's body control along with the prospect of acquiring Kevin Love was enough to convince LeBron to bring his talents back home in 2014. Imagine if the Cavs had Kyrie Irving and Giannis Antetokounmpo? Although it wasn't super obvious Giannis would be a star after his rookie year, he possessed a rare combination of length and athleticism: the same combination that made LeBron intrigued with center Tristan Thompson. With LeBron at the 4 and Giannis at the 3, a Kevin Love trade is no longer necessary. The Cavs could keep their 2014 and '15 first rounders and use them to address depth issues. A LeBron-Giannis-Kyrie Big 3 would currently be the best trio in the NBA in my opinion, although GSW might have something to say about that. Oh, what could've been...

2. Orlando Magic
Actual pick: Victor Oladipo, SG
Do-over pick: Rudy Gobert, C

Victor Oladipo hasn't been a bust, but he also hasn't been the franchise player the Magic were hoping he'd be. Orlando traded Oladipo to OKC in 2016 for Serge Ibaka, and a year later the Thunder traded him to the Pacers as part of a package for Paul George.

The 27th overall pick Rudy Gobert has developed into the kind of defensive center that would remind Magic fans of Dwight Howard in his prime. In his fourth season, Gobert was named to both the All-NBA Second Team and the All-Defensive First Team. Although he's still nothing special offensively (14 ppg) Gobert has the upside to be the best overall center in the game one day and a multiple DPOY winner.

Gobert would have given the Magic something they've lacked since Dwight Howard: a true franchise player. Rudy would have fit right in with a franchise that has only made the finals with a center as its best player (Shaq in 1995, Howard in 2009). The Magic are far from contention, but they'd be a lot closer with Gobert as the face of the franchise.

3. Washington Wizards
Actual pick: Otto Porter Jr., SF
Do-over pick: CJ McCollum, SG

Otto Porter has been a nice fit in Washington alongside Bradley Beal and John Wall: when Beal is actually playing. Beal has battled injuries throughout his career. Porter and Beal will make a combined $48.6 Million next year, pretty outrageous considering the skill and reliability of both.

McCollum has developed into the perfect complement for Damian Lillard in Portland. His scoring and sweet-shooting would help to take the pressure off any star. McCollum would be a better, more reliable backcourt complement to John Wall than Beal. The Wizards could have easily traded Beal for a veteran small forward or for draft picks. Everything is crystal clear in hindsight though.

4. Charlotte Bobcats
Actual pick: Alex Len, C
Do-over pick: Steven Adams, C

Alex Len is another bust of this class. The Suns have to be kicking their-selves for passing on Gobert and Steven Adams.

Adams has developed into a nice starting center in this league, capable of averaging a double-double while being a good defender. Adams can protect the rim and close out on shooters very well for a big man. The Suns wouldn't be forced to start an over-priced Tyson Chandler at center with Adams around.

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1.) 13 Jul 2017 19:24:50
The issue with the first scenario is nobody considered Giannis that high of a prospect and a major project at that. If they did select him and didn't trade for Love (kept Wiggins) then that likely wouldn't have been enough to convince Lebron to come back to Cleveland with Giannis a major question mark. They likely still would've had to have made that Love trade to attract Lebron (Lebron clearly signed with the promise the Twolves would trade Wiggins for Love) .

Magic are a mess. Oladipo wasn't that bad a pick given that draft class and as great a defensive force Gobert is without another star on their team Magic wouldn't be much better than they are now. Its highly unlikely they would've drafted a center with a young Vucevic putting in a strong season the year prior.

I don't view McCollum as an upgrade over Beal the only advantage is that he'd been healthy although Beal was able to do that this past year. Those same injuries would tarnish Beal's trade value so I doubt they'd get anyone better than Porter is now especially nobody as young as him. McCollum is being paid basically just as much as Beal. Don't see this switch making much if any difference.


2.) 14 Jul 2017 13:54:16
If Steven Adams is going at 4
it's a real thin draft.


3.) 15 Jul 2017 03:47:56
My top 10 retake of the draft

1 Cleveland - Greek freak (Kyrie, wiggins, Greek freak)
2 Orlando - Cj McCollom (could've used a 20 point scorer)
3 Washington - R Gobert ( wall, beal, gobert lineup scary)
4 Charlotte - N Noel ( defense walker, mkg, Noel)
5 Phoenix - O Porter ( 3&d alongside Bledsoe and booker)
6 Philadelphia - V Oladipo ( best player available )
7 Sacramento - KCP ( sac choose different gaurd who can defend)
8 Detroit - B McLemore ( more of a sweet shooter for Drummond)
9 Utah - D Shroeder ( way better then trey burke)
10 Portland - S Adams ( Adams + Aldridge would of been fun)

Unlucky c zeller, k Olynyk, A Crabbe, g Dieng.


4.) 17 Jul 2017 14:33:39
My retake of that top 10

1. Cleveland - Giannis Antetokounmpo ( Kyrie, Wiggins, Greek freak would be cool)
2. Orlando - Cj McCollom ( no clear option grabbing a 20+ point player isn't bad )
3. Washington - Rudy Gobert ( a core now of Wall, Beal and Gobert would be scary)
4. Charlotte - Nerlons Noel ( defensive beast to pair with walker and mkg)
5. Phoenix - Otto Porter ( adds defence and 3pt shooting next to booker and Bledsoe)
6. Philadelphia - Victor Oladipo ( needed everything best player available )
7. Sacramento - KCP ( sac town can't develop sg's but kcp can defend well)
8. Detroit - Ben McLemore ( with right development could become sweet 3 and d )
9. Utah - Dennis Schroeder ( they were looking for a pg and he's a lot better then Burke)
10. Portland - Steven Adams (Adams and Aldridge pairing would compliment each other)



Unlucky - Cody Zeller, Allen Crabbe, Gorgui Dieng, Kelly Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2016 22:51:05
Cavs get Dwight Howard

Rockets get Kevin Love

It's pretty apparent that the Cavs need a lot of help on defense, and Kevin Love doesn't provide that. His offensive stats have taken a huge hit since Kyrie Irving has returned to the lineup and Love just simply isn't a good defender. Howard, on the other hand, is still one of if not the best defensive big man in the game and still has plenty left in the tank as evident by his recent 36 point 26 rebound outing. Most importantly, Howard wants to win now and is hungry for a ring; so he should have no problem accepting a not-so prominent offensive role in Cleveland. James and Irving should be able to capitalize on plenty of alley-oop passes to the big man however and a Howard-Tristan Thompson front court would be nasty defensively (assuming they don't bring in a stretch four like Markieff Morris) .

The Rockets on the other hand have a putrid defense that would get much worse with swapping Howard for Love. The Rockets really don't have a chance at contending in the West this season anyway, so tanking the rest of this year and getting a good lottery pick seems like the best course of action. Love is younger than Howard, much more dynamic offensively, and is under contract for the next several seasons. Howard is likely to opt out of the final year of his deal this summer and leave Houston if he isn't traded by the deadline. This move would give Houston a legit 1-2 scoring punch in Harden and Love that they can build around over the next couple of years. They would need to surround this duo with top notch defenders if they want to contend, but that is feasible.

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06 Jul 2015 03:09:31
NBA Talk

Do you think the Cavaliers would've been better off trading Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, and the future first round pick to the Portland Trailblazers for Lamarcus Aldrige instead of to the Timberwolves for Kevin Love?

It's an interesting idea. Aldrige is a better defender than Love and shoots at a higher percentage from the field, but Love is a better rebounder and much better three point shooter. Another aspect to consider is age: Love will only be 27 in September whereas Aldrige turns 30 this month. In my opinion, Love is a better fit offensively alongside LeBron James and Kyrie Irving because Love is a three point shooter who can spread the floor and create space for the ball handlers. Aldrige could create space with his mid range jumpers but he wouldn't serve as a threat from three (27.6 % from three in his career).

Ultimately, I think the Cavs made the right choice by going with Love. He's younger, a superior rebounder/3 PT shooter and better fits the team in Cleveland (IMO). I could see Aldrige making a lot of sense though, so I want to hear some other opinions. What would you have done?

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1.) 06 Jul 2015 14:15:28
The Cavs would've been better off with Aldrige. His efficient low-post offense and mid-range game would perfectly complement LeBron and Kyrie. Aldrige would also have provided more help on defense than Love and Aldrige had actual playoff experience prior to this season. Aldrige could've been a leader on this team alongside LeBron and in my opinion the Cavs would've beaten the Warriors had Aldrige been on the team and healthy for the Finals.


 

 

20 Mar 2015 16:13:22
If the Cavs never traded for Love, they could be trading for Durant Right now.

Thunder get Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, two first round picks

Cavs get Kevin Durant

Imagine how good the Cavs would be right now. Plus the Thunder would get a young future superstar to replace Durant.

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30 Sep 2017 17:39:39
Gobert is a stud but that’s way too much value for the Cavs to give up.

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29 Sep 2017 21:16:02
Raptors should just blow the whole thing up and re-build. They’re not winning anything with this core.

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29 Jul 2017 19:21:37
Laziest post ever lol.

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26 Jul 2017 15:55:38
I'd go with Rose/ Wiggins/ LeBron/ Love/ Thompson but your lineup is nice too. Not a bad trade for the Cavs, excellent trade for the T-Wolves. Butler and Wiggins are very similar players and will be redundant at times on offense, bringing in a lethal shooter and finisher like Kyrie adds a whole new dimension to their offense. The Wolves sorely need three point shooting and this trade would add two 40% 3PT shooters. A Warriors/ T-Wolves WCF would be a possibility.

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26 Jul 2017 14:30:16
As a Pistons fan, I'd be ecstatic if that package could land Kyrie; but it can't. Plus giving up those picks gives the Pistons nothing to build around Kyrie with, so he'd probably leave as a free agent in 2019.

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