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20 Sep 2018 05:03:46
Just because Butler wants clippers Knicks and nets doesn't mean he gets it. And I doubt they give up much when they can get him in FA and other teams won't give much for a rental.

Thunder T-Wolves Suns

T-Wolves get Roberson, Warren, thunder 2nd round pick or 1st if necessary.
Thunder get Butler
Suns get Schroder 2nd round pick

Thunder make a killer starting five that will compete with warriors.
T-Wolves get an all defensive player which thibs would like, a good young player in Warren, and a pick.
Suns address their PG need. Warren is a lil better but not much than Schroder they average the same amount of points and are the same age. Schroder being a PG is a better playmaker and gets more assist and is starting caliber which is what they need. They get a 2nd to make it a lil better for them.


1.) 20 Sep 2018 17:52:29
This is not a bad idea. Biggest problem is Thunder paying all of their players. They would be by far the largest payroll and luxury tax payments in history in 2019.



20 Sep 2018 04:42:02
Just because Butler wants clippers Knicks and nets doesn't mean he gets it. And I doubt they give up much when they can get him in FA and other teams won't give much for a rental.

Thunder T-Wolves

T-Wolves get Roberson, Schroder, 1st and 2nd pick
Thunder get Butler

Thunder make a killer starting five that will compete with warriors.
T-Wolves get an all defensive player which thibs would like, a starting caliber PG, and a couple of picks.




13 Sep 2018 19:08:10
Suns and Pelicans
Suns get Davis
Pelicans get Warren, Jackson, Bender, a 1st and 2 2nds

Pelicans get a return of 3 young players with potential a 1st and couple of seconds.

Suns get Davis to pair with Booker and Ayton. They could develop into a big 3 after a couple of seasons


1.) 13 Sep 2018 19:36:29
I don't see the Suns getting Davis without giving up Ayton.

2.) 13 Sep 2018 20:14:20
Bmiller, you could have stopped right before without.

3.) 13 Sep 2018 20:43:01
Fair rkenne. But without Ayton, the conversation doesn't even start.

4.) 13 Sep 2018 21:30:08
A Davis doesn’t want any part of suns for him if he leaves Pels it’s boston or lakers.

5.) 14 Sep 2018 13:45:25
Davis has no choice if traded.

6.) 14 Sep 2018 16:04:12
Yeah, players don't choose where they're traded. I also think that he'd be pretty happy playing with that young Phoenix team. Davis, Ayton, and Booker could be an amazing trio, with Bridges as a great 4th possibly.

That said, it's just a dream for Phoenix.

7.) 17 Sep 2018 21:04:26
RKenne already expressed my sentiments perfectly.



13 Sep 2018 18:46:13
Pelicans and Timberwolves
Pelicans get Towns and Wiggins
Wolves get Davis and Ajinca

Wolves do this be a more competitive team and try to keep Butler. If Butler will stay with Davis then Butler and Davis would be a better duo than Towns and Wiggins if Butler leaves. They also get out of Wiggins contract Wiggins is makeing way to much and plays no defense it would be hard for them to get a good return for Wiggins without pairing him up with something good.

Pelicans do this to get a great return for Davis. Towns is a dominant young big and could easily be a MVP one day. I don't think they would be able to get any better player than towns is for Davis. The longer pelicans wait the worse the return they get will be.


1.) 13 Sep 2018 20:15:09
Townes, Teague and a pick maybe.

2.) 14 Sep 2018 13:11:05
It’s Wiggins that’s the problem here, I wouldn’t want him in a deal if I’m the Pels.



11 Sep 2018 21:45:33
pelicans and nets
Pelicans get Russell, Allen, Carroll, and 2 1st round picks
Nets receive Anthony Davis

Nets give up 2 good young players who have great potential, a good role playing veteran, and 2 1sts and get Davis to help attract players like Butler and Irving in FA.

Pelicans get 2 1sts and 2 good young players. you didn't hear much about jarret Allen, but he had a good under the radar rookie season. And Carroll can help bring leadership to a young team and he is a decent role player whose contract expires after the season to open cap space for them.


1.) 12 Sep 2018 00:04:51
Nets haven't won 30 games the last 2 with those players, why would davis for one reason stay and for even a biger reason why would pelicans make that trade. pelicans top 4 seed in west.

2.) 12 Sep 2018 01:33:45
If that's best deal pelicans will have to take it. Not the best but it not trash. But if boston offers sac pick and brown or Lakers offer Ingram and ball plus two first its better for pelicans. even fultz, saric, Covington plus two first is better then that package. If nets want Davis they should win the lottery and offer that pick plus Russell and Allen plus two first on 2020 deadline.

3.) 17 Sep 2018 21:05:23
AD to the Nets, wow. just wow.




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23 Aug 2018 15:28:01
What are some new rules the NBA should make? For example I think in the 4th quarter each coach should be allowed 1 challenge if the score is not more than 10 points apart. MLB and NFL both have challenges and it saves a lot of disagreements and arguments. For example a goal tend that's not called a goal tend or vice versa (Cavs vs Pacers), a step out of bounds on a game winning shot (Bucks vs Thunder), a moving screen on a final game winning play (T-Wolves vs Thunder) . These are just 3 examples from this season that changed the outcome of the game I could go on and on. Some people might say it's just one game it doesn't affect much but those games add up and in a playoff series or tight conference one game can cost you the series, the playoffs, or home court advantage.
Do y'all agree with this idea, and what are some ideas y'all have?


1.) 23 Aug 2018 16:31:57
They should give the playoff teams with the 8 worst records lottery odds, tier the lottery (1-4 have the same odds and so on with ties between tiers like the 4 and 5 seeds having the odds between the 2 tiers split), and it should be a straight lottery. It won’t completely eliminate tanking, but it takes a lot of the incentive out and you won’t end up with teams straight scorched earth to have the worst record. If there isn’t a ton of difference between being the 8th worse team and the worse team.

2.) 23 Aug 2018 17:14:22
It's a drastic change, but I love the Elam Ending rule. Making a target score instead of a timed ending makes the end of the game considerably more enjoyable. It ends intentional fouls. It ends the drawn out aspect of the end of NBA games. Every game gets a walk off shot. It add excitement to the game.

For the lottery, changes need to be made, but I'm not sure what makes the most sense. Maybe all teams that don't make the playoffs get an equal chance in the lottery. That gives incentive to miss the playoffs instead of making the 8 seed, but not much of one. The wheel isn't a bad option, where you just get the #1 pick every 30 years. That definitely makes trading picks more definite. If you trade a first, you know if it's a top 5 pick or a late first years in advance.

I agree with challenges. Though, I'd just tie them to timeouts. You can challenge any time, but it burns a timeout (but doesn't give the benefits of a timeout like advancing the ball or substitutions if challenged when that team wouldn't be allowed to call a timeout) .

3.) 23 Aug 2018 18:40:15
Yea that would also work challenges count as timeouts without the time out benefits. All I know is they need to do something to eliminate some of the player ref tension.

4.) 23 Aug 2018 21:27:39
Award more money to the team owners who make the most games and get the furthest in the playoffs. That would help offset lottery-tanking a bit. Old draft rules when the team with the most losses could end up a #14 by a slim margin should be reinstated. When the new no worse than 3 rule came into play the tank became more popular.

5.) 24 Aug 2018 19:36:10
Team seeded 9th in both conferences get top lottery picks with head to head deciding who gets it.

6.) 31 Aug 2018 16:37:02
What about pushing back the draft until after the first 2 weeks of free agency and some kind of compensation for teams that lose an allstar. For example, if a team signs a player that has been an allstar 2 of the past 3 year, they forfeit their next 2 picks to the players former team. You could really handcuff the building of super teams and teams with stars in the last year of their deal wouldn’t have to sell off players for pennies on the dollar.



21 Aug 2018 14:58:56
What do y'all think a trade package for Butler would look like at trade deadline if he says he is leaving no matter what and won't commit to a team he is traded to so they have no leverage, and he would only be a half year playoff rental. Would they get a 1st and or good young prospect? Who do y'all think might would trade for him?


1.) 21 Aug 2018 15:48:35
Probably the Warriors giving up a pick and igoudola, ahha

But, probably 2 late 1sts and an expiring contract with some filler and maybe a low end prospect. If there is some kind of wink wink deal behind the scenes that he’ll resign, maybe a little bit more.

2.) 21 Aug 2018 17:36:59
There's a few teams that could try to make a move to get him that would make sense.

Portland: Something like Harkless, Aminu, Swanigan/ Trent, and a first
Cleveland: Clarkson, Korver, and a young guy or two (Osman, Nance, Zizic), and a first
Memphis: Temple, Green, Brooks/ Rabb, and a first (I like the fit of Butler in Memphis if Gasol and Conley are healthy, they could jump to a top 3 seed)
Indiana: A deal centered around Turner wouldn't shock me.

3.) 21 Aug 2018 23:55:40
NY: Lee, Hezonja, 2020 1st

Wolves: Butler.

4.) 22 Aug 2018 01:06:25
Brown and a 1st! Butler>brown Boston goes to finals I don’t think they beat the raptors this year.

5.) 22 Aug 2018 15:40:03
I think Boston with brown and a late first is the best. they get a more win now ready guy in butler and don’t have to pay brown in 2 yrs. might even win a championship but Boston already has Tatum and Hayward I think butlers just straight up better then brown (now) and they could compete with golden state (but still lose in 5)



06 Aug 2018 15:38:22
What are some big names y'all see available at trade deadline?
Love if he is playing good and Cavs still aren't in the top 8.
Walker if hornets don't want to pay him a lot of money to stay in the lottery and he won't take a pay cut
Butler, Irving, and leonard if they say they r leaving after the season no matter what.

Who else am I missing anyone? Where do y'all think some of these players might end up?


1.) 06 Aug 2018 23:20:51
I could see Memphis blow it up and move Conley and/ or Gasol.

Love will definitely get interest.

McCollum will be talked about, but I expect Portland to want a massive haul for him. I could still see it happening.

I think GS will listen to offers on Klay. I wouldn't be shocked if he got moved. But they'll want a ridiculous amount of assets for him.

The clippers are interesting. I think they should start over and move Harris, Bradley, Williams, and Beverly. All 4 would get them decent assets.

2.) 07 Aug 2018 02:11:26
Wiggins, McCollum, Conley or Gasol if Grizzlies are still bad.

3.) 07 Aug 2018 14:07:26
I could see Conley being available if he comes back healthy but Memphis can't crack the top 8 in the west.

McCollum will be out there, but the asking cost will be huge.

Love and Walker if neither team is in the playoff picture.

I also wouldn't be shocked if GS took calls for Klay and Draymond. They wouldn't actively put them on the trade block, but if they get a massive offer of young talent for one of them (unlikely, but more likely for Klay), I could see it happening.

4.) 08 Aug 2018 22:58:08
Kawhi, Lowry, Middleton (though I think they would want a star in return), Dragic, Drummond, Griffin, Irving, and Heyward are potentially some others that could become available.



01 Aug 2018 17:40:34
You are GM of a new team you are guaranteed 3 years as GM if you don't make the conference finals at least once you will lose your job. You can improve your team throughout the 3 years, but you can start with any 2 players 1 of them has to be 28 or older and the other one has to be 25 or younger. The rest of your team is just average role players. Who do you start with?

I start with Anthony Davis (25) and LeBron James (33)
I would choose Curry or Harden because LeBron is starting to get older and you have to wonder how much longer can he play at the level he does, but Curry and Harden have both struggled during the playoffs several times. And I thought about KD or Westbrook but they both can try to play hero ball to much and that can be bad in the playoffs. Even though Durant has 3 other all stars on his team he was still trying to do to much by himself.


1.) 02 Aug 2018 00:08:28
Well nothing will beat James and Davis so I’ll throw something else out there KAT and Hardin just so the terrible defense would be noticed.

2.) 02 Aug 2018 03:20:52
I’ll take Russell Westbrook (29) and Joel Embiid (24)
My starting lineup:
Pg. Westbrook
Sg. Josh Richardson
Sf. Joe Ingles
Pf. Luc Mbah a Moute
C. Joel Embiid.

3.) 02 Aug 2018 05:22:45
Chris Paul
Jimmy Butler
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis
Joel Embid.

4.) 02 Aug 2018 06:35:18
That team Btec would be awesome because of Paul's smarts and the talent around him will thrive.

5.) 02 Aug 2018 16:09:26
Paul or Irving at point guard and that team is good. Jokic instead of embid would be an offensive beast as well.

6.) 03 Aug 2018 08:12:56
Kyrie or curry with Davis.

7.) 03 Aug 2018 23:14:36
Giannis and KD. I’m surprised more people haven’t said KD. He seems like the easy answer for that portion. He’s easily the 2nd best player in the game and isn’t getting worse anytime soon. Giannis probably has the highest ceiling in the league. You probably can’t go wrong with him or Davis.

8.) 04 Aug 2018 16:25:53
rkenne_16 I thought about taking KD instead of LeBron with Davis, but KD tries to be a 1 man team to much and in the playoffs that is not what you want. He did it in OKC and now he has 3 other all stars on his team and he still tries to do to much in close games, and that can cost you games in the playoffs. But I do agree with Giannis I don't think you can go wrong with him or Davis. If Giannis develops a solid 3 point shot it's game over.

9.) 04 Aug 2018 17:23:38
The whole gsw team was trying to get curry finals mvp and he choked i'm game 3 big time. If Durant didn't show up and take shots gsw would not have won game 3.

10.) 04 Aug 2018 19:00:47
Agreed, you can complain about Durant a little bit in the Houston series (I don’t think they get to the finals without him though), but he was by far their best player in finals. Game 3 was incredible.

11.) 04 Aug 2018 19:05:46
Also, Harden and Curry have had some alltime bad playoff games from guys at their level. Both guys are liable to get abused on defense. Harden can turn into a turnover machine and we’ve seen when Curry’s 3 isn’t falling he seems to shut down. He stops getting to the rim and isn’t the same passer. Plus, he starts taking more 3s rather than playing within the rhythm of the game, which he normally seems to have an extraordinary feel for.

12.) 06 Aug 2018 15:26:01
Btec I believe they would have won. Without Durant Thompson would have stepped up and played better we have seen games were he can score 60 points and with Harden guarding him he could have gone off. And rkenne_16 I agree with your last post you can not count on harden and curry in the playoffs.



01 Aug 2018 16:10:25
Where do y'all think Hood will end up? Cavs stopped negotiating a contract, but do u think they would match an offer. Pretty much the highest teams can offer is a mid-level exception because almost everyone is in luxury tax. I would like to see Thunder get him I think he would be a good fit for them. They could then trade Abrines to bring salary back down and hood would be a way better backup than Abrines. And in close games that they can't have Roberson on the floor because of his offense hood is a decent defender so they could still get stops and then have a better scorer on the floor.


1.) 01 Aug 2018 16:33:10
Cavs would match.

2.) 01 Aug 2018 16:45:19
Yeah, everything I’ve seen says that the Cavs want him back as long as the price is right. The MLE is probably less than the Cavs are offering. I’d imagine the hold up right now isn’t even the money, it’s probably the years. The Cavs probably want a multi year deal and Hood would rather take the qualifying and hope for a better deal next year.




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14 Sep 2018 22:14:15
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10 Sep 2018 05:11:07
I was trying to think of a different destination than the ones everyone has been saying and a duo of Davis and Giannis would be scary in the East and fun to watch. And I put together a much better package than most people are putting. If Davis says he wants out Pelicans lose leverage and he is worth less, if he won't commit or drop hints to another team that he will stay value drops again because he is a bigger risk of leaving. If he says he wants out no team is going to give up 2 great young players example Tatum, Brown or Ingram, Kuzma plus multiple 1st round picks. If he got traded now it would be different and they might could get the best package we have seen in a while or ever seen for a player, but the longer they wait and the more leverage they lose the less they get.




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07 Sep 2018 19:31:16
Not only does Indy say no, Thunder say no. They would not trade Adams, Roberson, and a 1st for Oladipo and Dieng. Adams fits the team better and is a young beast who will still improve, and who terrorizes teams on the offensive glass and great in P&R, Andre Roberson is a 1st or 2nd all defensive team calliber player every year when healthy and a 1st round pick.




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01 Sep 2018 21:39:40
Korver would help Thunder a lot but I don't think they will give up Ferguson for him. They like Ferguson and think he can develop into a good 2-way player. I don't think they would trade him for any 37 year old.




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31 Aug 2018 14:11:29
OKC shouldn't and can't do this right now it would have to wait. Grant just resigned so they can't trade him right now. And they should wait before giving all that for Griffin. Grant could be the answer at PF if he can shoot 37-38% from 3 again like in 2016-17 and do the other things he did he could be a good starter on a team friendly contract. They give up their starting and backup SG and PF plus a 1st just to get a starting PF. They make thselves to weak even after signing veterans to minimum contracts.





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