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20 Feb 2019 20:51:39
Wizards
Roberson
Patterson
Pick for Wizards '19 Thunder 1st

Thunder
John Wall injury relief money (save money)

20 Feb 2019 23:43:03
According to Spotrac. com, Wizards only have $2.5 mil left on that exception that expires March 11th. So salaries aren't close.

Also, Thunder cannot trade their 2019 1st rounder until draft day in June.

Additionally, Patterson cannot be traded until he opts in/ July because of his player option for next season.

Sooooooo. Zero chance of happening.

21 Feb 2019 02:37:05
I 100% agree with Fredman because that's exactly what I said. OKC picks for Wizards '19 1st. Isn't every trade a summertime trade on here right now? The John Wall injury money is for next season because the deadline has passed. He will miss enough games for the full injury relief. Who is posting trades for this season right now?

21 Feb 2019 03:42:21
Include Dennis.

21 Feb 2019 08:02:40
Jorga made me do a little homework.

To qualify for a disabled player exception next season, the injured player is "substantially more likely than not to be unable to play" through June 15, 2020. 17 months is a long time for a doctor to say that a player is unable to play basketball to grant this exception.

Additionally, only one replacement player can be signed or traded for using this exception (and they must be on expiring contracts) .

Why doesn't OKC just trade these two + pick to ATL, CLE, PHX or CHI when the new season starts? Much easier to do.

21 Feb 2019 18:19:50
ESPN, the athletic, bleacher report have all given the 18.5-18.6 relief estimated dollar amount.

Plus, all said because an Achilles injury (substantially unlikely to play) the exception will be available right away because it is at least a year. That has Wall starting court work maybe late February-March 2020. Wiz can spend the money, allocate relief later. I'd accept your wager on the Wiz making the playoffs 2020.

You got me on 2 players but Wizards are allowed to if Mahinmi agrees to restructure his final season under that relief waiver, giving the wizards Mahinmi's cap dollars.

Wizards absorbing players for a 1st into their cap is more difficult than for ATL, CLE, PHX, CHI? Why?

All I wanted to know was why you thought it was an illegal trade, and not for after July 1,2019? Did I write something improperly that indicates I'm ignorant of what a trade deadline is? But I got all this, please don't reply, I think I have you figured.

19 Feb 2019 21:53:28
This summer.

Phoenix gets Wall, Patterson, protected Washington 1st

Washington gets Roberson, Jackson

Oklahoma City gets Warren, Howard, 2 Washington 2nds

Phoenix can afford to wait for Wall. If it works out, they get a star who can redefine his career in Phoenix. If it doesn't, they get the pick and risk only a bit.

Washington could keep Roberson (dpoy candidate when healthy) reunited with his Brooks. Or they could buy out the final year of his deal and get out of TONS of salary in exchange for a first. Rebuild around Beal.

Oklahoma seems committed to the luxury tax and going for a championship (I'm one of the proud few who think they could do it this year). Flip Dre for Warren and Patterson for Dwight is splashy and risky. But they get back more offense and athleticism. Helps depth.

19 Feb 2019 22:40:37
Risk only a bit? He’s going to be on the wrong side of 3. Coming back from heel and Achilles surgery. And making 45+ million for multiple years.

Seems like a tad more than “a bit”.

19 Feb 2019 23:24:39
Booker will be a star before Wall gets back.

20 Feb 2019 00:28:08
Not a chance that trade goes down for an injured player.

20 Feb 2019 03:53:15
You might have wall on your team for 4 more years taking up a little less than half your cap. The Wizards would need to multiple unprotected picks to get off of Wall.

15 Feb 2019 08:42:19
Markieff goes to Thunder and Kanter to Blazers.. So does it means Melo will be signing with the Lakers and play the rest of 25 games??

15 Feb 2019 13:29:46
Not sure how signing Melo helps develop the young Lakers core players.

15 Feb 2019 18:13:53
The young core is temporary. Melo and Lebron about about start uncle drew part 2 in LA.

15 Feb 2019 18:23:20
Melo goes to big 3.

15 Feb 2019 20:41:27
Gotta develop the young core to increase their trade value. Not seeing Melo helping with that.

15 Feb 2019 23:55:59
Melo's last sound bite was heavily laden with retirement talk. There is no team for him that will enhance his legacy.

14 Feb 2019 22:47:17
OKC-WAS-DEN


OKC gets Beal and Monte Morris

WAS gets Schroeder, Roberson and 1st rd pick 2020 via OKC

DEN gets Diallo and 2nd rd pick 2019


Russ/ Morris
Beal/ Kris Wilkes (#24)
Ferguson/ Grant
George/ Morris
Adams/ Patterson


Schroeder/ (Wall)
Roberson/ Brown
Ariza/ Jeff Green
Parker/ Portis
Thomas Bryant/ Bruno Fernando (#7)

15 Feb 2019 01:51:23
So a late future 1st, a guy with a knee injury that’s been out for a year, and a mediocre pg gets you a 25 year old all star?

15 Feb 2019 03:43:33
Okc have a 2020 1st? Thought that went to ATL with Carmelo?

15 Feb 2019 05:37:50
OKC 2020 went to Orlando, then Orlando traded it to Philly in the Fultz deal.

07 Feb 2019 04:54:32
Nets - Ariza
Wizards - Dudley Williams Musa & 2nd

Russell/Harris/RHJ/Ariza/Allen

Thunder - Green
Wizards - Felton and 1 or 2 2nds

Westbrook/Ferguson/PG/Grant(Green)
Adams

- Wizards add 2/3 2nds which they don't have and adds a prospect
- Nets gets a stretch four to push for playoff
- Thunder gets versatile forward off the bench

07 Feb 2019 18:27:16
Wizards resigning Ariza.

07 Feb 2019 06:55:33
Okc and Orlando

Okc get- Terrence Ross and Wes iwundu
and second round pick Orlando

Orlando get- Terrence Ferguson and Andre Roberson

Or if they don't like Roberson throw in Alex Abrines or Diallo or second round 2020 picks

Orlando don't need to make playoffs anyway just to lose out the first round.

06 Feb 2019 22:24:22
WIZARDS / THUNDER Deal


Thunder trade Patterson and Noel along with 3 2nd Round Picks to

Wizards for Dwight Howard and Jeff Green.

-5 on the Trade Machine for Wizards

+1 on the Trade Machine for Thunder.


This won't happen . but, I wish it did. Most of you . this deal is pretty much unrealistic . but, I'm dreaming of this of this trade.

07 Feb 2019 01:23:44
I personally like it for the wiz, they get the athletic lob catcher and rim protector they’ve always wanted for Wall/ Beal. Idk if OKC needs to give 3 2nds. I also don’t know when Howard will be back so Okc would have no backup center until he does.

06 Feb 2019 18:53:11
OKC gets Hood and Nwaba

The Cavs get Diallo, 10 million dollar trade exception, and a 2nd

The Cavs either bring in a 3rd team or after the trade look for a team that is trying to get under the luxury or is trying to clear cap before free agency.

06 Feb 2019 19:14:50
Hood is in Portland.

06 Feb 2019 21:02:13
Oregon Trailblazers?

06 Feb 2019 23:35:48
I meant Alec Burk. I looked though and he doesn’t fit into the exception.

07 Feb 2019 00:39:52
Rkenne slow down on the cush 🤣.

06 Feb 2019 12:48:49
WIZARDS / GRIZZLIES / THUNDER


Washington gets
Conley and Gasol from GRiZZLIES
3 2nd Round Picks from THUNDER
Brooks from GRIZZLIES (Add on)

Memphis gets
2 1st Round Picks from WIZARDS and Mahinmi.
Schoder, Roberson, and Patterson from THUNDER
Future Consideration from THUNDER

Oklahoma City gets
Beal and Howard from WIZARDS


To fix the John Wall Problem for the WIZARDS

Memphis gets 70 Million Cap Space in 2 years from now.


THUNDER LINEUP

PF Howard
SF George
SC Adams
PG Westbrook
SG Beal

That's a powerful lineup.

06 Feb 2019 14:40:37
There is no way D-12 can play PF any more.

06 Feb 2019 15:21:08
Agree with triangle. Howard is done if he wants a life after ball. Anyone with a bad back, lower L4 L5, herniated disc, ruptured disc, numbness in your ass, foot, or leg knows this injury all too well. The risk for a minimum salary is far too great, unless he's bankrupt.

05 Feb 2019 05:50:39
Lakers get Davis and Ross

Magic get Ball

Kings get Hill and Lakers 2019 1st

NO gets KCP, Kuzma, Ingram, Koufus, Hart, Wagner/ Zubac, OKC 2020 1st (from Orl) and Lakers 2021 1st, Minnesota 2019 2nd (from Sac), 2020 Lakers 2nd

Just an addition to the much discussed Lakers-Pelicans deal whereby Ball gets moved to Orlando and Hill is salary dumped on the Kings.

05 Feb 2019 04:33:03
Hawks get: Timofey Mozgov and a 2020 1st round pick top 20 protected (via Thunder)

Magic get: Jeremy Lin

Hawks take on an extra years salary for the pick
Magic get a PG to help a push into the playoffs and gain salary relief for the summer to go after a long term PG option in FA.

05 Feb 2019 05:06:43
Always thought Lin for Ross + 2nd rounder was a no brainer trade deadline deal.

05 Feb 2019 00:50:59
Okc and New Orleans

Okc get- Julius Randle

New Orleans get - Alex Abrines and Patrick Patterson and two seconds

Then buyout E'Twaun Moore with trade exception.

05 Feb 2019 02:32:21
Why buyout Moore? You can easily trade him.

05 Feb 2019 02:39:58
Horrible deal for Pelicans. Not even a 1st makes it worthy.

05 Feb 2019 03:26:45
Really really bad.

04 Feb 2019 22:53:18
Knicks - Magic

Knicks gets:
Martin
Birch
2020 1st Thunder (Top 20 protected)

Magic gets:
Mudiay
Vonleh

04 Feb 2019 23:39:04
You don't get a first for 30 games of 2 guts about to be free agents from tanking teams.

05 Feb 2019 02:42:42
Bamba for Vonleh Mudiay 4 1st.

04 Feb 2019 02:44:12
BOS/NOLA/OKC

BOS get Westbrook, Davis & Hill

Pg Westbrook
Sg Smart
Sf Brown
Pf Davis
Ce Horford

NOLA get Rozier, Tatum, Roberson, Patterson (exp), 2 1st from BOS, 1st from OKC

Pg Rozier
Sg Holiday
Sf Tatum
Pf Mirotic
Ce Randle

OKC get Irving, Hayward & Moore

Pg Irving
Sg Hayward
Sf George
Pf Grant
Ce Adams

04 Feb 2019 04:56:17
Lol this is a jokes.

04 Feb 2019 06:18:51
Boston becomes a seriously poor shooting team.

04 Feb 2019 02:26:17
Grizz get Andre Roberson
-Next Tony Allen?

Okc gets Joe Harris
-Great shooter/final piece?

Nets get Garrett Temple
-Expiring deal, preps for free agency?

04 Feb 2019 06:20:58
Better sprinkle in some draft picks Harris >> Roberson.

04 Feb 2019 12:41:32
Fredman- is Harris USA in 30 games?

03 Feb 2019 17:51:54
Pelicans Thunder

Pelicans trade: A.Davis S.Hill

Thunder trade: S.Adams J.Grant T.Ferguson 3 1st round picks

03 Feb 2019 18:41:00
Does OKC even have 3 tradable 1sts?

03 Feb 2019 19:15:27
3 1sts? What. 2022, 2024, and 2026?

03 Feb 2019 19:17:28
Picks would be 2024, 2026 and 2028. I don't think anyone trades picks that far in the future, its just stupid to do it.

03 Feb 2019 22:00:06
Separate of the 1sts, the players coming back don’t tickle the fancy either.

03 Feb 2019 23:19:34
Pretty sure teams can only trade 7 year out so 2019 though 2025.

04 Feb 2019 01:14:33
Please don't drink and post.

03 Feb 2019 14:34:49
Hornets-Grizzlies-Bulls


•Hornets get Marc Gasol, Cristiano Felicio, and Ivan Rabb


•Grizzlies get Jabari Parker, Cody Zeller, Bismack Biyombo, Bobby Portis, the right to swap 2019 1st rd picks (via Hornets), and OKC’s 2019 2nd rd pick (via Hornets)

•Bulls get Chandler Parsons, Jamychal Green, Frank Kaminsky, and Hornets’ 2020 1st rd pick (lottery protected)

03 Feb 2019 09:04:49
Bulls trade OKC

Bulls get Kyle singler and OKC 2019 1rst round pick

OKC gets Bobby portis

03 Feb 2019 14:59:15
OKC can't trade a first until minimum 2022.

03 Feb 2019 02:42:25
HEAT / THUNDER / RAPTORS

HEAT Gets -4 Wins
Roberson and Abrines
3 2nd Round Picks (Chicago and 2 OKC)


THUNDER Gets +3 Wins
Serge Ibaka from Raptors
Dion Waiters from Heat


RAPTORS Zero +/-
Dennis Schroder from Thunder
Bam Adebayo from Heat
Future Considerations from Thunder
either cash and/or players


Future Lineup
FC Ibaka
SF George
SC Adams
PG Westbrook
SG Waiters

03 Feb 2019 04:35:59
Absolutely no reason for the Raptors to do this.

04 Feb 2019 08:41:19
why would the Raptors need 4 point guards? honestly.

02 Feb 2019 15:53:40
Magic Trade Aaron Gordon 2020 first round pick (lottery protected) 2020 first round pick (Top 20 protected).via Thunder

Pelicans Trade Julius Randle Nikola Mirotic

Magic receive Julius Randle NIkola Mirotic

Pelicans receive Aaron Gordon 2020 first round pick (lottery protected) from Magic 2020 first round pick(Top 20 protected).via Thunder from Magic

Salary Match

02 Feb 2019 16:12:57
Lighter protections and Pels pounce on this.

02 Feb 2019 21:27:51
Magic need guards. All they have are 3s and the 4s. Bad trade.

 
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