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21 Jul 2017 14:58:06
This is convoluted, but I combined 2 ideas I had...

OKC gets:
Tyson Chandler, Kenneth Faried, Wilson Chandler

Suns get:
Chandler Parsons, Conditional Grizz pick

Denver gets:
Eric Bledsoe, Kyle Singler, Doug McDermott, OKC future first

Memphis gets:
Enes Kanter, Alex Abrines

OKC reasoning:
Go all in. They have to. This gives them big upgrades on the bench and gives more reason for Russ and PG to consider staying.

Suns reasoning:
Are Chandler or Bledsoe part of their future plans? Doubtful. When healthy is Parsons an elite scorer? Close. Suns have the best shot at reviving Parsons, and he'd bring a nice scoring compliment to Booker moving forward.

Nuggets reasoning:
Pairing Bledsoe with Milsap, Jokic, Murray, Harris, etc. is a nice idea. He can start or play as a super sub. An OKC pick could be huge if their two stars bolt, but the bigger get is McDermott who could be a huge floor spacer for them.

Grizz Reasoning:
Pretty simple. Gasol is the only TRUE center on the roster. Plus, they get one of Gasol's national teammates to help space the floor. Grit and Grind can help cover the shortcomings both additions have on defense. Plus they offload Parsons.

21 Jul 2017 15:29:25
The Suns get get the shaft in this. It heavily favors the Thunder. Solid for Denver and probably a pass for Memphis.

21 Jul 2017 15:54:05
So phoenix trades the best player, just for the hope of getting to revive Parsons? Not happening.

21 Jul 2017 15:57:21
This is hysterical regarding the suns. Are chandler and bledose part of the future? No. well, chandler isnt, but not sure why you just KNOW that bledsoe isnt.21/ 6/ 5 seems like something to build around.

But ok, that's fine. Give up the 2 years of both of them. and you get 4 years of Parsons. FOUR FREAKIN YEARS!

But go on from that. when healthy, is parsons an elite scorer? Close. really?

Best year comparison:
Player a - 16pts per game, 47% fg, 37% 3fg
Player b - 21pts per game, 43% fg, 34% 3fg

FYI. Player a is parson, b is bledose. Elite? Riiiight. Parsons played decently DECENTLY in his contract year and got way too much from the mavs as a result. He doesn't play more than 75% of the year, at best, and at that point is an average starter, clearly no where near elite scorer.

Jesus, idk why, but that was just aggrivating. Parsons. and elite scorer. absurd.

21 Jul 2017 01:00:25
OKC/DEN/BKN

OKC get Kenneth Faried

DEN get Jeremy Lin

BKN get Enes Kanter & 2nd from DEN

19 Jul 2017 15:15:18
TOR - SAS - OKC

TOR get: Enes Kanter and Future SAS 1st DP

pg. Lowry
sg. Derozan
sf. Miles
pf. Kanter
c. Ibaka

SAS get: Jonas Valanciunas and Kyle Singler

pg. Parker
sg. Green
sf. Leonard
pf. Gay
c. Gasol/ Valanciunas

OKC get: Lamarcus Aldridge

pg. Westbrook
sg. Roberson
sf. George
pf. Aldridge
c. Adams

19 Jul 2017 18:45:41
Pretty bad for Toronto. The reasons to move Valanciunas are to potentially clear salary or so they can slide Ibaka to center and have a more versatile and athletic lineup. This trade does neither for them and Kanter makes more money (although he has 1 year shorter on his deal than Valanciunas) and isn't an upgrade on Valanciunas in the defensive or athleticism department. A future spurs pick which will likely be in late 20s doesn't compensate this.

Spurs aren't getting much back in return for Aldridge. Valanciunas is younger but there is a reason Raptors are trying to deal him and they don't even have him on the court down the wire in the playoffs. I think Spurs would need more to consider this type of offer. At this point they are likely stuck with Aldridge as I doubt a better option will arise now if it hasn't already.

OKC getting a complete steal. That team would be pretty good.

16 Jul 2017 16:25:52
Chicago Bulls moves

•Trade: Bulls-Pistons-Spurs
-Bulls get Tobias Harris, Tony Parker, Boban Marjanovic, and a 2nd rd pick (via Pistons)
-Pistons get Lamarcus Aldridge and Jerian Grant
-Spurs get Dwyane Wade and Robin Lopez

-Buyout Tony Parker

-Trade cash considerations to OKC for Kyle Singler and own 2018 2nd rd pick back

-Sign Derrick Rose 1yr 8m
-Re-sign Nikola Mirotic 3yr 31m
-Sign Antonio Blakenley to 2-way contract

Lineup:
PG: Rose, Dunn, Payne
SG: LaVine, Holiday, Nwaba
SF: Harris, Valentine, Zipser
PF: Mirotic, Markannen, Singler
C: Felicio, Portis, Marjanovic.

16 Jul 2017 17:12:21
Swap Leuer for Tobias and it's a deal.

16 Jul 2017 17:50:14
You Pistons fans act like Tobias Harris is a superstar.

16 Jul 2017 17:58:17
Stanley Johnson or Tobias Harris must be on the deal for Bulls

And NO to Rose. rather develop Dunn.

16 Jul 2017 20:12:00
I think its still solid value for the Pistons with Harris involved although since they likely aren't going anywhere with Aldridge I could understand the desire to just keep the younger Harris that is a better fit at pf in today's NBA than Aldridge is especially as he continues to age into his 30s.

Not crazy about this deal for Spurs since Wade is a shadow of his former self although Lopez is a solid starting caliber center that Spurs could use in the wake of Dedmon going to ATL.

16 Jul 2017 20:37:33
The Spurs won't trade Parker and the Bulls don't need T. Harris.

16 Jul 2017 23:15:55
NBA. He's our top player.

15 Jul 2017 19:26:25
OKC Thunder moves

-Trade Kyle Singler and Chicago's own 2018 2nd back to Chicago for cash considerations and salary relief (and opens roster spot)

-Sign Boris Diaw 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Westbrook, Felton, Christon
SG: Roberson, Abrines, Ferguson
SF: George, McDermott, Huestis
PF: Patterson, Grant, Collison
C: Adams, Kanter, Diaw

My Bold Predictions for OKC:
•Team finishes 3rd in West
•Westbrook- 1st team All-NBA
•George- 3rd team All-NBA
•Roberson- 1st team Defense and improves his 3pt% to 29% (from 24.5%)
•Kanter- Finalist for 6th man of year, improves his defense from horrible to below-average
•Grant- hits the weight room and gains 5-10 pounds
•Ferguson- above-average defender, offense is very raw
•Team defeats GSW in at least 2 games through season (including playoffs)
•Team makes WCF and loses fo GSW
•Westbrook and George re-sign in OKC.

16 Jul 2017 05:29:10
All very possible but they would need to make a very strong pitch to get George to stay, don't get me wrong, OKC is good and will be good for a while longer but the Lakers are just about to finish their rebuild. They just need to resign Lopez and they would have a lineup of Ball KCP George Ingram Lopez with Clarkson and others coming off the bench and they could also try to resign Randell but I doubt they will considering they will need to pay both Lopez and George. They also need to unload Deings contract.

16 Jul 2017 05:38:09
Okay but you also realize how young OKC is right? And in OKC he has another superstar with him in Westbrook.

15 Jul 2017 10:31:32
MIL-OKC-HOU-NYK

MIL trades: Parker, Henson, Delly, Monroe, 2018 1st
Receives: Adams, Anderson, Ariza, McDermott
Sign Rose

Rose, Brogdon
Middleton, Snell
Giannis, Ariza, McDermott
Anderson, Teletovic
Adams, Maker, Hawes
- This team would be deep enough arguably 3rd seed in the east

OKC trades: Adams, McDermott, 2022 1st
Receives: Porzingis, Henson
Sign Tony Allen

Westbrook, Felton
Roberson, Abrines
George, Allen
Patterson, Henson, Grant
Porzingis, Kanter
- OKC form a big 3 that could make westbrook and george stay + saving money.

HOU trades: Anderson, Ariza, Taylor, Quarterman, Long, 2020 1st
Receives: Melo, Delly
Sign: Dunleavy, Mbah a Moute

CP3/ Delly
Harden/ Gordon
Tucker/ Dunleavy
Melo/ Mbah a Moute
Capela/ Nene
-Get their superstar and a back up PG that could play off ball

NYK trades: Melo, Porzingis
Receives: Parker, Monroe, Taylor, Quarterman, Long, 2018 1st MIL, 2020 1st HOU, 2022 1st OKC

-If New York is all in for rebuilt. All contracts are expiring and its basically swapping KP for Parker and 3 first rd picks. A core of Ntilikina, THJ, Parker, Hernangomez + cap space is a good start.

I know its quite a long shot but value wise? Thoughts?

15 Jul 2017 12:03:32
If the Knicks do get serious about offloading Anthony, they might have to include Porzingis to actually get it done.

15 Jul 2017 13:33:15
Knicks never do this. IMO, Porzingis is headed for a true breakout year, and becomes a dominant force in the east. Knicks not giving that up, no matter how poorly they are run. Alaso, I think the melo situation is heading towards a buyout. Lnicks are realizing his trade value is low, and they do not want to take back a big contract. I think new gm scott perry is the "face of the buyout", and anthony goes to Houston.

15 Jul 2017 14:02:46
Hahah troll. Nicks rejected multiple Anthony offers already because they aren't pleased.

And seriously. Okc gives up Adams for porzingis essentially. Adding a lot of teams to confuse people doesn't. What's that you just made a thunder homer trade.

15 Jul 2017 14:25:36
The Bucks say No!

15 Jul 2017 15:41:05
Giannis for Noah
Or
Isiah Thomas for Noah.

14 Jul 2017 14:55:19
Okc-memphis

Okc- Kanter, abrines, singler, 2 2nd round picks or one 1st

Memphis- gasol, Tony Allen (S&t) for 5 mil a year

Okc becomes the best defensive team that could then match the warriors

Memphis goes younger and more offensive. At best they are 8th seed anyways.

15 Jul 2017 02:52:20
What a terrible deal for Memphis.

15 Jul 2017 16:50:56
Olidipo and sabonis for George is a terrible trade for Indiana too.

17 Jul 2017 04:22:57
This trade maes no sense for the thunder and I'm a thunder fan Adams deserve to start and gasoline deserves to start bc this is the NBA we play in and Memphis would never do this a different trade would be Adams singler and a couple of second round picks for gasol and then sign tony Allen that makes more sense.

17 Jul 2017 04:31:00
And the line up should look something like this
Westbrook/ Felton/ Christian
Abrines/ T. Allan/ Fergersun
Roberson/ McDermott/ Huestis
George/ Patterson/ Collison
M. Gasol/ Kanter/ Johnson
Allan comes off the bench vs start to help with the defense in the second unit and it doesn't make since to play Allan and Roberson at once and then abrines will help space the starting lineup.

17 Jul 2017 04:33:04
U could also do the exact same trade I proposed earlier for boogie (cousins) bc the pelicans don't feel the fan keep boogie and would rather be safe and sorry with Adams which can still develop to be one of the best centers on the league.

14 Jul 2017 04:45:49
Nets-Twolves


•Nets get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st
-Waive Cole Aldrich
-Sign Alex Len 3yr 22m
-Sign Brandon Rush 1yr minimum
Lineup:
PG: Russell, Whitehead, Dinwiddie
SG: Lin, Kilpatrick, Goodwin
SF: Carroll, LeVert, Rush
PF: RHJ, Booker, Nicholson
C: Len, Allen, Mozgov

•Twolves get Joe Harris, Quincy Acy, and a 2018 2nd
-Sign Arron Afflalo 1yr 3.2m
-Sign Isaiah Canaan 1yr minimum
Lineup:
PG: Teague, Jones, Canaan
SG: Wiggins, Crawford
SF: Butler, Afflalo, Harris
PF: Gibson, Bjelica, Acy
C: Towns, Dieng, Patton.

14 Jul 2017 12:43:41
If Minnesota wouldn't trade the OkC first for CJ Miles, whey aren't trading it for 3rd stringers.

12 Jul 2017 17:40:45
Cavs-Twolves-Kings


•Cavs get Kosta Koufos and 2018 Kings 2nd
-Sign Thabo Sefolosha 1yr minimum
Lineup:
PG: Irving, Calderon, Felder
SG: Smith, Korver, Osman
SF: James, Sefolosha, Jefferson
PF: Love, Green, Frye
C: Thompson, Koufos, Tavares

•Twolves get Iman Shumpert and rights to Dom Pointer (via Cavs)
-Sign Aaron Brooks 1yr minimum
-Sign Anthony Morrow 1yr minimum
-Sign Mike Dunleavy 1yr minimum
-Sign Maurice Ndour 2yr minimum
Lineup:
PG: Teague, Jones, Brooks
SG: Wiggins, Crawford, Morrow
SF: Butler, Shumpert, Dunleavy
PF: Gibson, Bjelica, Ndour
C: Towns, Dieng, Patton

•Kings get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st (via Twolves)
Lineup:
PG: Hill, Fox, Mason
SG: Hield, Bogdanovic, Richardson
SF: Jackson, Carter, Temple
PF: Randolph, Labissiere, Giles
C: WCS, Papagiannis, Aldrich.

12 Jul 2017 19:22:49
While the Cavs could probably use a bigger defensive minded center, I don't think it's worth trading for one unless they can some how pull in one of the elite defensive centers in the league. First and foremost another star player in addition to the big 3 would be ideal, 2nd multiple long athletic defenders, 3rd someone who come off the bench and be a secondary ball handler (I hate the Calderon addition) and then maybe a bigger back up center. There isn't a team that can challenge them in the playoffs who has a center that is going to physically dominate the Cavs.

12 Jul 2017 19:31:50
Well now the Cavs can't sign Sefolosha. Maybe Mbah a Moute could work.

11 Jul 2017 21:07:07
OKC Thunder Moves

-Trade Kyle Singler and Chicago's 2018 2nd back to Chicago for salary relief and rights to Ater Majok

-Sign Andrew Bogut 1yr minimum
-Sign Brandon Bass 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Westbrook, Felton, Christon
SG: Roberson, Abrines, Ferguson
SF: George, McDermott, Huestis
PF: Patterson, Grant, Bass
C: Adams, Kanter, Bogut.

12 Jul 2017 15:43:02
I say more floor spacing is still needed for the thunder. that's how there going to compete with the warriors. Just add some more long range snipers around westbrook and pg13. Not many elite 3 point shooters on the market but some that can help (gerald green, jonas jerebko, anthony tolliver, luke babbitt)

11 Jul 2017 20:51:09
Finishing the T Wolves offseason

Trade 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich to ATL for Bellinelli

Not sure if Payne is still on roster but waive/release him if he is
Sign Lawson, if too expensive sign Foye
Sign 2/3 of Sefelosha, Afflalo, Green to min.
Sign 1 of Bogut, Speights, Ezeli to min.

Teague, Jones, Lawson
Wiggins, Bellinelli, Afflalo
Butler, Sefelosha, Afflalo
Dieng, Gibson, Bjelica
Towns, Bogut, Patton

12 Jul 2017 01:27:48
Wolves already signed Crawford at SG backup
Green already signed with Cavs.

12 Jul 2017 02:49:19
Gerald Green, but forgot to put in Crawford my bad.

09 Jul 2017 02:28:04
Some trades to improve the Timberwolves:
Tell me which are good and the most realistic


1. Twolves-Nets
Twolves get Justin Hamilton and Joe Harris
Nets get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st

2. Twolves-Knicks
Twolves get Lance Thomas and 2018 2nd
Knicks get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st

3. Twolves-Suns
Twolves get Jared Dudley and 2018 2nd
Suns get Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st

4. Twolves-Kings
Twolves get Garrett Temple and 2018 2nd
Kings get Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st.

09 Jul 2017 05:05:14
Don't like the first 3. 4th better.

09 Jul 2017 14:06:47
1st done can't get done. Hamilton in T. O.

09 Jul 2017 14:08:47
#1 can't happen now. Raptors traded D Carrol. future 1 and 2nd rounder's for Hamilton. Brooklyn hasn't learned about not trading 1st rounder's yet.

I think after signing Crawford the Wolves are going to cool it for a bit, they've been very busy this off season.

08 Jul 2017 11:33:32
OKC-SA

Double sign and trade Gasol (2 year 18 million), Simmons (3 years 30 million) for Kanter and McDermott

Spurs do this to get younger with better offensive options and with the Spurs system, Kanter and McDermott will surely improve on defense. Then sign Dedmon to a deal. Retire Ginobili

Parker/ Mills/ Murray/ Smith
Green/ McDermott/ Forbes
Leonard/ Gay/ Anderson
Aldridge/ Bertans
Dedmon/ Kanter


OKC do this to have a better all around player and a veteran champ to guide them. Sign Johnson.

Westbrook/ Felton/ Christon
Roberson/ Simmons/ Abrines/ Ferguson
George/ Heustis/ Singler
Patterson/ Grant
Adams/ Gasol/ Johnson

08 Jul 2017 13:10:53
Spurs don't do this both players are a downgrade. Your going to need so evidence to back the claim that Kanter and McDermott will surely improve on defense, they've been in the league 9 years combined and haven't improved plus neither has the athleticism or desire to be good defenders.

08 Jul 2017 07:02:04
OKC Thunder Moves

The team is shaping out good but they still need another big man who can play in the playoffs since "Can't play Kanter" because of his horrid defense

-Trade Kyle Singler, 2018 Chicago 2nd, and 2018 OKC 2nd to New York for Kyle O'Quinn

-Sign Tyler Zeller 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Westbrook, Felton, Christon
SG: Roberson, Abrines, Ferguson
SF: George, McDermott, Huestis
PF: Patterson, O'Quinn, Grant
C: Adams, Kanter, Zeller.

08 Jul 2017 15:05:55
Add Noah and Kanter keep your 2nd. your trash for our trash.

07 Jul 2017 21:03:47
Chi - Kanter Huestis Hawes Vaughn Okc 1st

Okc - Wade and Henson

Mil - Lopez and Singler

Dunn/Payne
Lavine/Vaughn
Valentine/Huestis
Portis/Markkanen
Kanter/Felicio

Westbrook/Christon
Roberson/Wade
PG/McDermott
Patterson/Grant
Adams/Henson

Brogdon/Delly
Middleton/Terry
Giannis/Snell
Maker/Parker(injured)Telly
Lopez/Monroe

07 Jul 2017 22:29:59
Milwaukee and OKC say No!

08 Jul 2017 01:49:58
Kanter over rated.

07 Jul 2017 16:14:44
Any legitimate ideas on how to move Enes Kanter and/or Kyle Singler with the end goal of rounding out the bench for the Thunder?

Kanter got an offer sheet from Portland but that was several years ago and they may not make any sense anymore.

Maybe Singler back to Detroit where he had a decent start?

Maybe Kanter to Orlando?

Anything?

07 Jul 2017 16:39:20
If you add a 1st to Kanter or 2 2nds to Singler, they probably aren't hard to move. Also, if they're willing to take on a longer contract of similar money for a player that can help them more they could move them fairly easily. I think waiting until next year and using them as expiring contracts might be their best bet.

07 Jul 2017 16:41:01
What about Singler, Kanter, and a future first for Wade. He could be a solid 6 man for them and he's expiring.

07 Jul 2017 14:08:18
OKC - SUNS Trade Idea

Thunder Get:
- Eric Bledsoe

Suns Get:
- Enes Kanter
- Bulls 2018 2nd Round Pick
- Terrence Ferguson

Thunder get an excellent back up guard (and potential Westbrook replacement), and get off Kanter's salary.

Suns get a young prospect and a valuable 2nd round pick

Would the thunder have to give up something extra, such as Grant/McDermott/Abrines etc?

07 Jul 2017 14:19:44
Suns don't want kanters contract. A "bunch of ok stuff" doesn't get you a 27 year old borderline all star. Suns say no rather easily. And don't want another piece off the okc junk pile added.

07 Jul 2017 14:30:35
Thunder shouldn't be aiming for a Westbrook replacement since if he leaves it means George is also leaving also and they should likely rebuild since they won't be very good and getting Bledsoe isn't going to stop that. They don't need a backup the caliber of Bledsoe and should just sign one. I don't think this offer gets him anyway since to move Kanter's contract you'd have to give up something close to Ferguson anyway.

06 Jul 2017 21:25:38
Timberwolves reportedly interested in Jamal Crawford

Hawks-Wolves

Aldrich OKC 1st for Crawford

Timberwolves get a 6th man scorer and dump Aldrich. Hawks get another first rounder next year.

06 Jul 2017 22:52:30
Or Minnesota can wait until Crawford gets bought out.

06 Jul 2017 17:12:35
Cleveland Cavs Moves

-Trade Iman Shumpert and rights to Dom Pointer to Minnesota for Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st

-Trade Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st to Sacramento for Kosta Koufos and 2018 2nd

-Bring over Cedi Osman
-Sign Thabo Sefolosha 1yr 3.5m
-Sign James Young 2yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Irving, Calderon, Felder
SG: Smith, Korver, Young
SF: James, Sefolosha, Osman
PF: Love, Jefferson, Frye
C: Thompson, Koufos, Tavares.

06 Jul 2017 13:56:59
MEGA TRADE!

Bulls - Cavs - Knicks -Thunder

Bulls gets:
Smith
Shumpert
Felder
2018 2nd back (via Thunder)
2019 2nd (Thunder)

Cavs gets:
Anthony
Wade
O'Quinn
2023 2nd (Knicks)

Knicks gets:
Kanter
Singler
McDermott
Jefferson (Waive)
2021 1st (Cavs)
2022 1st (Thunder)

Thunder gets:
Love
Grant


Who wins?

06 Jul 2017 15:01:30
This clearly favors the Thunder. The Cavs end up with less depth and a worse starting line up.

06 Jul 2017 15:18:24
That's why they give up a 1st and 2nd round picks to make it fair.

06 Jul 2017 16:12:31
They would have to give up a 1st to get rid of Kanter's contract and Singler has no value. They basically give up McDermott for Love and Grant in this trade.

Wade has very little trade value with the size of his contract unless it's used as an expiring. That is sort of how it's used here since Smith might be hard to trade because of the length of his contract, but the Cavs are better off with Shump, Smith, and Felder than Wade. Wade wouldn't be a bad addition for the Cavs if he gets bought out, but he doesn't fit well in the starting line up. His skill set is redundant beside Lebron and Kyrie, he doesn't have the length or athleticism at this point to be a great defender, he ruins spacing, he can't play the minutes that Shump and Jr can, and the Cavs lose upside here.

I think it's a solid offer for Melo, but if NY was willing to take on bad contracts for him a deal would already be done.

The Cavs wouldn't be willing to do Love for Melo or Smith, Shumpert, Felder, and a 1st for Wade. Why would they do both in the same trade?

06 Jul 2017 16:59:52
I think its foolish for Cavs to trade for Wade or Melo. Their playstyles aren't what they need as a supporting cast around their big 3 (defense, shooting and rebounding) and if they were to trade for them they would have to give up a few of their role players and thus hurt their depth. I think Cavs should only try and add them if they get bought out and even then both would be best suited coming off the bench as 6th men to generate offense off the bench (their starting lineup has plenty of offense already and needs to improve defensively and on the boards which both aren't area of strengths for Wade or Melo) .

 
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