Oklahoma City Thunder Rumours

24 Sep 2017 14:35:51
Now that okc has melo they need to get a back up 5.
First off that happens is okc agree to deal with wade once he is bought it out.
Then u trade
jermi grant semj Christon and another in guaranteed salary and possibly a couple of second round picks if u need
Then sign a 3 string pg to
Pg:Westbrook/ Felton/ min
Sg:Roberson/ abrines/
Sf:George/ wade/ huestis
Pf: Anthony/ patterson.

24 Sep 2017 13:22:10
So let me get this right: OKC got PG13 AND Melo for Sabonis, Oladipo, McDermott, Kanter, and a second round pick???? Am I missing something? I'm just trying to make sense of this...Is Lebron next? Looking at the going rate, L.A could put together a nice package. Ingram, Clarkson, Deng, and a 1st rounder.

24 Sep 2017 14:07:40
Thunder got George because it's probably a one-year rental.
OKC paid fair market value for Anthony given his age, declining skills, lack of defensive effort and ridiculous contract.

24 Sep 2017 14:39:24
The George to LA stuff really drove down the offers for him, I think. The Pacers also messed up by not wanting to take an offer from the East even though they'll be tanking for the next 3 years.

There just wasn't much interest in Melo and he could limit the teams that were even in the running. He's 34, his salary is hard to match, he has ever growing huge holes in his game, and you have to worry about how he'll respond to being a third option.

Plus, there is the risk that all 3 could walk at the end of the year if things don't mesh well. If that happens OKC is in for 5 years of rebuilding.

24 Sep 2017 15:07:51
Also, I don't see the Cavs trading Lebron, I don't see Lebron accepting a trade, and with the underwhelming roster the Lakers have right now, I don't see why Lebron would be interested in playing there this season.

24 Sep 2017 19:48:21
I still don't get the Pacers trade.
Why couldn't we get a draft pick PG13

I think NY panicked.
They should have told C Anthony that there was nog good offer for him, so he would go to Portland.

24 Sep 2017 20:19:38
I can see Lebron going there. Lebron has nothing to prove at this put of his career is the reason I can see him leaving. Media has always driven the debate of whose the GOAT that pushed the greats to achieve the accolades, but what does that really accomplish?

I think with the politics that are being pushed into sports, I think a lot of the superstars that are on their last hoorah are going to play with who they want and where. Magic in L.A is a good selling point to Lebron as far as life after basketball. Not to mention the cap space to bring in others. He's also a student of the game. All that history behind the Purple and Gold is a lot to pass up at this stage of his career.

23 Sep 2017 21:02:31
I think OKC are the biggest winners of the offseason now

Remaining moves:

•Trade Kyle Singler, Boston's 2018 2nd, and own 2019 2nd to Chicago for Jerian Grant

-Sign David Lee

Lineup:
PG: Westbrook, Felton, Grant
SG: Roberson, Abrines, Ferguson
SF: George, Grant, Huestis
PF: Anthony, Patterson, Collison
C: Adams, Lee, Johnson

2 way contracts: Daniel Hamilton and Semaj Christon.

23 Sep 2017 21:09:00
It's time for league to force Dolan to sell the team.

23 Sep 2017 18:41:47
Okc/knicks

Melo for kanter, mcbuckets, and a second rounder next year. Wow. Bad trade for knicks. Horrible return.

23 Sep 2017 19:19:04
I figured they would atleast get a protected first. They should have bought out Melo. Kanter's contract is terrible and McDermott and are fairly irrelevant. I guess Supercollider was overestimating Melo's value this whole time.

23 Sep 2017 20:28:21
Two marginal players and a second. About right for Anthony. Thunder on the hook for $56 million over next two years. Not much left over for anyone else if Westbrook signs supermax deal.

24 Sep 2017 02:00:17
they do have pg’s bird rights. but yeah, no money for role players.

23 Sep 2017 14:38:37
NYK - OKC - DET

NYK get: Reggie Jackson, Enes Kanter, Alex Albrines, and Doug McDermott

Pg. Jackson
Sg. THJ
Sf. McDermott
Pf. Porzingis
C. Hernangomez

OKC get: Carmelo Anthony, Andre Drummond, and Joakim Noah

Pg. Westbrook
Sg. Roberson
Sf. George
Pf. Anthony
C. Drummond

DET get: Steven Adams, Courtney Lee, Kyle Singler, and Josh Huestis

Pg. Bradley
Sg. Lee
Sf. Johnson
Pf. Harris
C. Adams

23 Sep 2017 14:54:11
Lmao, I I wish u change your name already poser Knicks fan.

23 Sep 2017 15:04:57
The Knicks would be better off buying out Melo than taking on two bad contracts and getting little of value back.

I don't like it for Detroit either. The downgrade at center and nothing else there seems all that valuable.

23 Sep 2017 15:21:24
adding drummond and noah’s huge contracts would give the thunder no flexibility to improve their roster next year (and huge luxury tax), especially if they resign PG and russ.

23 Sep 2017 07:16:34
Ranking the Melo trade options in order
Deadline: 9/25/17
1 . Trade Melo to the Cavaliers for Shumpert, three expirings (Frye, Jefferson, Felder) & 2018 Nets 1st.
PG Thomas / Rose
SG Smith / Korver
SF James / Crowder
PF Love / Anthony
C Thompson / Zizic

2 . Trade Melo to the Blazers for Harkless, three expirings (Davis, Vonleah, Napier) and a future 1st.
PG Lillard - Turner
SG McCollum - Connuaghton
SF Aminu - Layman
PF Anthony - Leonard
C Nurkic - Collins

3 . Houston gives Anderson and a 2nd to Pacers; non-guaranteed contracts/1st to Knicks. Pacers send short-term deals (Jefferson/Stephenson) to Knicks. Knicks trade Melo to Rockets.
PG Paul / Brown
SG Harden / Gordon
SF Ariza / Tucker
PF Anthony / Mbah A Moute
C Capela / Nene

4 . Thunder gives Kanter and a 2nd to Mavericks; Doug McDermott (expiring) to the Knicks. Mavericks Barea, two expirings (McRoberts, Harris) to the Knicks. Knicks trade Melo to Thunder.
PG Westbrook / Felton
SG Roberson / Abrines
SF George / Grant
PF Anthony / Patterson
C Adams / Collison

23 Sep 2017 07:31:37
The Cavs aren't giving up the Nets pick for Melo and it would take more to get the Pacers to take on Andersons contract. A 2nd isn't even almost worth it.

23 Sep 2017 16:51:42
Yeah, no way Cleveland includes the nets pick unless porzingis is included as well (which obviously won't happen) .

23 Sep 2017 18:00:20
Maybe the cavs pick but no way are they trading the Brooklyn pickf for melo.

23 Sep 2017 18:35:52
Indy would want a first

Portland would be a good fit for him.

23 Sep 2017 06:00:14
Knicks -Thunder

Knicks gets:
Kanter
McDermott
Singler
Ferguson
2022 1st Thunder (top 5 protected)
2018 2nd Bulls (via Thunder)
Future 2nd round pick

Thunder gets:
Anthony
O'Quinn

Knicks gets two contracts in Kanter and Singler that both expire in two years, while also adding two young players in McDermott and Ferguson. In addition to that they gets a 1st and two 2nd round picks for their rebuild.

Thunder lose some bench depth in Kanter and McDermott but add a 3rd star in Melo. O'Quinn can take some of Kanters minutes and Patterson gets moved to the bench.

Thoughts?

23 Sep 2017 14:24:25
Forget 33 yr old Melo, 43 yr old Melo is better than Kanter, lmao u add singler.

23 Sep 2017 15:55:44
Tough to get the money right without adding Singler, but I assume you're a salary cap expert?

23 Sep 2017 01:34:38
BOS/SAC/OKC

BOS get Willie Cauley-Stein

SAC get Kyle Singler, Dakari Johnson , 2018 BOS own 1st & OKC 1st 2018

OKC get Marcus Morris & 2nd round pick from SAC

BOS get a young center and slide Horford to PF

Pg Irving/Rozier/Larkin
Sg Brown/Smart
Sf Hayward/Tatum
Pf Horford/Yabusele
Ce Cauley-Stein-Baynes

SAC get 2 late 1st for their young center

Pg Hill/Fox
Sg Hield/Bogdanovic
Sf Jackson/Carter/Singler
Pf Randolph/Papagiannis/Giles
Ce Koufos/Labbisiere/Johnson

OKC get a starting stretch 4 to strenghten their roster

Pg Westbrook/Felton
Sg Roberson/Abrines/Ferguson
Sf George/McDermott/Huestis
Pf Morris/Patterson/Grant
Ce Adams/Kanter

19 Sep 2017 19:06:42
Knicks - Rockets - Thunder

Knicks gets:
Kanter
Singler
McDermott
Taylor (Waive)
Quarterman (Waive)
Long (Waive)
2020 1st Rockets (top 5 protected)

Rockets gets:
Anthony

Thunder gets:
Anderson
O'Quinn
2020 2nd Rockets

20 Sep 2017 23:05:07
Anderson isn't a bad fit in OKC,
one off the best C Anthony to Houston trades i've seen.

22 Sep 2017 22:31:22
Makes enough sense it could work, i agree it is one of the best melo to rockets trades i have heard.

23 Sep 2017 05:38:40
Thunder, like everyone else, do not want Anderson and his insane contract either.
I have a better idea,

NY gets :
Kanter
Singler
McDermott
(Chicago's 2018 2nd Rd pick)

OKC gets :
Anthony.

16 Sep 2017 04:04:29
BOS-IND-OKC

BOS M Turner

Irving
Hayward
Tatum
Horford
Turner

IND J Brown, E Kanter, LAL/SAC 1st, OKC 1st

Collison
Oladipo
Brown
Young
Sabonis

OKC M Morris, A Jefferson

Westbrook
Roberson
George
Morris
Adams

16 Sep 2017 08:57:28
Ind says no. They love Turner.

16 Sep 2017 14:50:49
I'm not sure why OKC is even in this trade. Boston would be better off keeping Morris and giving up one of their own firsts and that seems like a much better deal for Indy than taking on Kanter's contract.

I think Brown and the 2 firsts would be solid value for Turner, but like jvoug said, Indy really seems to like Turner and should. I think someone would have to drastically overpay for the Pacers to part with him.

16 Sep 2017 16:04:35
Also, the C's have gone from being wing heavy to needing Brown on the roster. I see Indy saying no because they do see Turner as a future star, but i don't see Boston wanting to give Brown right now either.

16 Sep 2017 16:57:32
Triangle, I agree they would be pretty thin if they gave up Morris and Brown, but If it's just Brown, Morris and Smart could take care of back up sf and sg and there are a few free agents out their that can give you solid minutes on the wing (there will most likely be even more after buyout season) . A trade like this would lock in 4 of their starting 5 for the next 6 or 7 years.

18 Sep 2017 14:04:08
I'd be very torn on this one. I love Turner, but I also think Brown is going to become something special too. I'm also thinking he's likely to slot into the starting lineup at SG. I think Smart has the ability to be the starting SG, but I think on a team level he fits better with Rozier in the second pairing. I don't really see any other guys on the roster who fit so seamlessly into the top 4 guards unless Larkin REALLY shows something. If he and Rozier could be a capable pair, and Smart's offseason work translates to the game court, this could be something I'd do.

18 Sep 2017 19:30:53
i don't dislike this for Indy.
I really like Turner, but he's not going to bring us to the finals.
J Brown can become good too and that pick woul give us two high lottery picks next year.

14 Sep 2017 12:04:33
If Cavs have Shumpert, Frye (exp) & their 2018 own 1st to trade, who would they use them for?

it should be a perimeter defender or a decent back up big

some list,

To Chicago for Robin Lopez?
To San Antonio for Danny Green? highly unlikely though
To Pacers for Thad Young?
To Knicks for Oquinn & Thomas or Lee?
To Mavericks for Wesley Matthews & 2nd?
To Raptors for Valanciunas?
To Bucks for Monroe?
To Hornets for MKG?
To Thunder for Roberson?

any idea guys?

14 Sep 2017 13:34:48
Cleveland's own No.1 will be late 20s at best, so it has little value (in fact, teams would prefer an early 2nd to a late first because first-rounders require guaranteed money) .
That leaves Frye, who is cooked, and Shumpert, who has little value and is at best a lower-rotation player.
Out of your offers I see maybe Valanciunas, but none of the others. But even at that, Valanciunas might tick off James by clogging the lane.

14 Sep 2017 15:50:29
I don't see Val, it would just leave the Raps too thin at the five. I agree Super with your valuation, so maybe Monroe at best, and probably not even him.

13 Sep 2017 10:49:25
Cavaliers-Thunder-Suns-Heat

Cavs get Whiteside , Singler & Warren

Thomas-Rose-Calderon
Smith-Shumpert
James-Korver-Singler
Crowder-Warren-Frye
Whiteside-Zizic

Thunder get Love & Chandler

Westbrook-Felton
Roberson-Ferguson
George-Abrines-Grant
Love-Patterson
Chandler-Kanter

Suns get Thompson & Heat 1st

Bledsoe-Ulis-Knight
Booker-Dudley
Jackson-Millsap
Chriss-Williams
Thompson-Bender

Heat get Nets 1st, Thunder 1st & Adams

Dragic-Johnson
Waiters-McGruder
Winslow-Richardson
Johnson-Olynyk
Adams-Adebayo

13 Sep 2017 12:52:17
The Cavs probably get slightly worse here while also giving up the Nets pick.

13 Sep 2017 20:59:48
I don't like it for the thunder. They are losing young adams who still has plenty of time to improve and a 1st round pick for kevin love who often has health problems and is not consistently effective against the warriors which the Thunder would need in the playoffs.

14 Sep 2017 01:05:04
Sun's already have heats pick.

13 Sep 2017 02:49:19
PHX/SAS/OKC

PHX get Adams , OKC 1st

SAS get Bledsoe , Grant , Singler

OKC get Chandler , Aldridge

11 Sep 2017 19:53:51
CHA - LAL - OKC

CHA get: Enes Kanter and Julius Randle

pg. Walker/ MCW
sg. Batum/ Monk
sf. MKG/ Bacon
pf. Randle/ Kaminsky
c. Howard/ Zeller

LAL get: Doug McDermott and OKC 2018 2nd RD DP

pg. Ball/ Clarkson
sg. KCP/ Brewer
sf. Ingram/ McDermott
pf. Nance/ Kuzma
c. Lopez/ Zubac

OKC get: Marvin Williams and Jeremy Lamb

pg. Westbrook/ Felton
sg. Roberson/ Lamb
sf. George/ Grant
pf. Williams/ Patterson
c. Adams/ Collison

13 Sep 2017 03:47:23
No way lakers deal randle for just Doug and a 2nd round pick

13 Sep 2017 21:00:29
Lakers will not agree to this.

13 sep 2017 22:09:42
where is kanter for the hornets.

10 Sep 2017 03:33:11
It's pretty boring for MIN fans right now. We only have one thing to trade - Cole Aldrich - or more accurately, some 2018 cap space. Aldrich's deal is $7.3 mil this year, and $6.95 mil next season, but only $2 mil is guaranteed. MIN will be over the cap, and likely under the lux next season, and will probably be willing to take on 2018 salary up to $12.3 mil in a two year deal. Most likely this will be at the deadline, but I'm curious which teams are potential trade partners who want 2018 CAP SPACE?

MIN was unwilling to give up the OKC 1st to get CJ Miles, so keep that in mind. They could use a swingman.

Aldrich for Shumpert?

Aldrich for Jared Dudley?

Aldrich for Garrett Temple?

Thoughts? Other ideas?

10 Sep 2017 14:15:08
Keep in mind that Cole is completely useless, so Minny will have to either attach another asset to him to move him or take back a wing on a multi year deal. Even with a $2M buyout, that's $2M that some team is going to spend.

How about Cole for Lance Thomas from NY? Salaries are the same this year and next, and Knicks clear some cap space next year. Thomas doesn't offer a tonne, but he is a 40% career 3PT shooter, which Minny needs.

10 Sep 2017 14:59:10
Wolves are like Sixers -- tons of talent and a bright future. Just let things play themselves out, and if things don't work out think about some more changes.

09 Sep 2017 03:40:32
OKC moves

OKC/ATL

OKC send Kyle Singler & 2nd round pick for a highly protected 2nd round pick

OKC sign Boris Diaw

Pg Westbrook/Felton/Christon
Sg Roberson/McDermott/Ferguson
Sf George/Grant/Abrines
Pf Diaw/Patterson/Collison
Ce Adams/Kanter

09 Sep 2017 00:41:29
Knicks - Thunder

Knicks gets:
Kanter
McDermott
Singler
Ferguson
2018 2nd Bulls (via Thunder)
2019 2nd Thunder
2019 swap right
2022 1st rd pick (top 5 protected)

Thunder gets:
Anthony
O'Quinn

Knicks move on from Melo and get a 1st rd pick, two 2nd round picks and a swap right (not likely) in return.

Thunder go all in to get PG13 and Russ to stay in OKC. With this move they can challenge Golden State in the conference finals.

09 Sep 2017 01:13:14
Yes I agree they can challenge to meet the warriors in the conference finals and get destroyed.

09 Sep 2017 12:56:37
Knicks aren't shedding Melos expiring contract for kanters terrible contract and a 1st 5 years away. Just stop.

09 Sep 2017 17:01:42
Both Melo and Kanter will opt in next year. Not enough money on the market for them to become free agents.

13 Sep 2017 03:48:25
Thunder giving up way too much picks.

07 Sep 2017 01:57:50
OKC gets:
Marc Gasol
Stanley Johnson
James Ennis

Memphis gets:
Andre Drummond
Doug McDermott
OKC 1st
DET 1st
CHI 2nd via OKC

Detroit gets:
Steven Adams
Kyle Singler
OKC 2nd

OKC goes all in hoping to convince Russ and George to stay long term.

Memphis moves on from Gasol and get a younger premier center, a shooter, and picks.

Detroit gets a stud defensive big in Adams who fits the mold of the old bad boy Pistons.

07 Sep 2017 04:54:29
Detroit gets completely screwed. Even if they don't include Johnson and their first, it's still bad for them.

07 Sep 2017 13:15:59
The Grizzlies said yesterday that Gasol is untouchable in any deal that doesn't blow their socks off. This deal doesn't blow their socks off.

07 Sep 2017 14:48:05
I'm actually not sure why OKC would do this. I love Gasol and everything, and he's the best of the three centers involved with this trade, but is he that much of an upgrade over Adams that you'd want to give up multiple picks? With an offense that already includes George and Westbrook, there's only so much ball to go around. What you need in that case are high upside role players, which is what Adams is. He rebounds and blocks at right around the same rate as Gasol does, and he's 8 years younger and on pretty much the same contract.

07 Sep 2017 15:55:47
Blocks and defense aren't the same. Gasol is an elite defender, Adams isn't. Gasol is also one of the best passing bigs I've ever seen, and a great scorer. And yes, you need more scorers, always.

Gasol is a top 5 center in the NBA. Adams maybe is top 20. Yes, Gasol is considerably better than Adams.

I feel like a comparative question is "Is Paul George really that much better than Trevor Ariza? " The answer is clearly yes.

06 Sep 2017 07:53:17
OKC-MIL-CHI

OKC
In: Parker, Henson
Out: Kanter, Grant, McDermott, 2018 Bulls 2nd

High risk, High reward move for OKC. If Parker still pans out they would get their 3rd scorer even though he's out until after All-Star break. Patterson and Henson could fill-in until then.

MIL
In: Lopez, Grant, McDermott
Out: Parker, Henson

MIl finally gets their center. Parker would likely demand a big amount of money and Maker is a better fit for Giannis than Parker. Grant and McDermott would be their extra weapons and are really good prospects rather than an injured Parker that is likely to leave because I doubt MIL would match the offer he would get in restricted free agency due to concerns in his injuries.


CHI
In: Kanter, 2018 Bulls 2nd
Out: Lopez

Gets their pick back and a player that can contribute right away and teach young guns post moves. Give more playing time to Markannen and Portis and give the reigns of starting center to Felicio.

06 Sep 2017 12:56:24
like it but okc should take on teletovic from mil.

06 Sep 2017 19:15:31
I guess that's fine for OKC but that would leave MIL with just one stretch big in Maker. Teletovic also has a shorter and cheaper contract. But if that would make the trade then OK.

04 Sep 2017 05:56:43
Thunder/Wizards/Spurs

Thunder get Markieff Morris & Kevin Seraphin
get a starting pf and a defensive back up center

Westbrook-Felton-Christon
Roberson-McDermott-Ferguson
George-Grant
Morris-Patterson
Adams-Seraphin-Johnson

Wizards get Lamarcus Aldridge & Enes Kanter
get a 3rd star

Wall-Frazier
Beal-Meeks
Porter Jr-Oubre Jr-Satoransky
Aldridge-Scott
Kanter-Smith

Spurs get Marcin Gortat , Alex Abrines , 2nd from Thunder & 1st from Wizards
get a bruiser down low and Abrines who can be a very good player under pop

Mills-Murray-Parker
Green-Abrines-Ginobili
Leonard-Anderson
Gay-Lauvergne-Bertans
Gortat-Gasol

04 Sep 2017 06:11:21
Seraphin is with Barcelona overseas, were yoz thinking Mahinmi maybe?

04 Sep 2017 08:17:50
Yes tonchcorkins, Mahinmi i meant.

04 Sep 2017 19:54:07
okc says no.