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13 Dec 2018 19:12:57

Heat get John Wall, Ian Mahinmi, Austin Rivers, and the right to swap 2019 1st rd picks

Wizards get Hassan Whiteside, Goran Dragic, and Rodney McGruder.

13 Dec 2018 19:18:07
I think Riley woukd be more conservative than this trade exemplifies.

13 Dec 2018 20:05:01
If Washington trades Wall, Beal or Porter, they are going to want cap relief in order to get below the luxury tax level, this trade doesn't do that.

13 Dec 2018 20:15:07
Fredman. Very few teams can offer that to Washington cap relief (well, any teams who would want Wall or Porter) .

13 Dec 2018 20:47:01
Wall is cap relief if he's traded this season. Not sure how much return Wall is fetching at the moment. Do you want Wall over Fox in Sacramento? He's pretty tough to get a lot out of.

13 Dec 2018 21:46:40
Carl006 and Btec. Currently, Sacramento is the only team with cap space to get Washington below the Luxury cap THIS YEAR. And that is one of the reasons I feel that Divac is holding out on trading cap space and expiring deals as part of a package to Washington for Otto Porter Jr to fill the hole this team at SF. It is a perfect trading match. It is just waiting on Washington FO to decide this season is over.

13 Dec 2018 22:19:56
Fredman. They get long term relief by
Getting off of Wall’s super max and they move
Mahimi’s unmovable contract. Plus they get two solid players. What more could you as for.

13 Dec 2018 23:54:14
If washington was concerned about long-term relief, they would have traded Wall instead of signing hom to a super max. I think the FO is tied to Wall and Beal. Not so much to Potter.

14 Dec 2018 00:24:55
Agree the obvious trade is porter to kings, no shot kings are moving fox or takin walls contract.

14 Dec 2018 03:26:23
Porter is awful and way overpaid. I'm sorry but he stinks.

13 Dec 2018 18:00:35
Lakers - Wall, Hield, & Jackson
Wizards - Rondo(exp) Kcp(exp) & Bonga
Kings - Ingram


13 Dec 2018 18:11:02
Why would the Kings do this?

13 Dec 2018 18:28:22
Heild + Justin Jackson for Ingram?

Ahhh. not only No, But Heck No!

Hield is probably just as good as Ingram is right now. and cheaper!

13 Dec 2018 17:06:05
Realistic deam Kings trade scenario.

Kings trade ZBo, Yogi Farrell, McLemore, 2 best future 2nd round picks.
Kings receive Otto Porter

Lakers trade KCP, protected 2019 1st rounder
Lakers receive Ariza, 2nd best 2nd rounder from Kings.

Phoenix trades Ariza
Phoenix recives ZBo ($12 mil expiring), Yogi Farrell (cheap playmaking guard) best 2nd rounder from Kings.

Washington trades OPJ
Washington receives KCP (may not veto with playing time at SF), McLemore (expiring $5 mil), Lakers protected 1st rounder.

Trade also moves Washington beneath the Luxury Tax Line and resets the penalty dollar multiplier for next year when Wall's extension kicks in.

14 Dec 2018 00:26:47
Think kings can get this done without giving any picks to take porters contract.

12 Dec 2018 23:55:02
Bradley Beal

Jonathan Issac
Evan Fournier
DJ Augustin
2nd round pick

Kemba Walker (resign MAX)

Mo Bamba
Terrence Ross
2019 1st (top 5 protected)

2019 Roster
C Nikola Vucavic (resign)
PF Aaron Gordon
SF Jonathon Simmons
SG Bradley Beal
PG Kemba Walker

13 Dec 2018 00:34:22
Absolutely no way the Magic trade Mo Bamba. They are developing him to be the future C, probably next year.

13 Dec 2018 01:24:07
I'd say Beal fir Gordon. Magic can't kerp issac bimba and gordon.

13 Dec 2018 04:59:35
Nooo! Decline.

12 Dec 2018 23:54:55
Bradley Beal

Jabari Parker
Kris Dunn
Chandler Hutchinson

13 Dec 2018 00:42:56
That deal hurts the wizards.

12 Dec 2018 16:10:17
Whiteside for Hardaway Thomas
Hardaway is from Miami, they hate Whiteside. Make sense. Thomas final can be bought out for 1.8 mil.

Mudiay Burke for Melton Daniels suns 2nd
Fair value

Lee for Bayless
Wolves lack exp at sg make sense

37 wins 3rd

Next summer
Trade Whiteside final yr to Dal for Dal 2nd after Jordan make sense
Knox for mid 1st not worth more
Ntilikina for 2 Magic 2nd not worth more

With 9 mil payroll including noah money, NY will combine Walker Leonard and Durant 4yr 120mil, before it needs to resign Porzingis. Essentially knox for Langford or Grimes. Knicks draft Ja Morant.


12 Dec 2018 17:57:21
Melton is cheaper younger and just as productive as mudiay.

12 Dec 2018 18:10:14
Mudiay is NY's best PG. No way Melton is as seasoned as Mudiay. Mudiay is raw, and so is Melton but Mudiay is a starter in NY and Melton can't crack the rotation without injuries.

12 Dec 2018 18:36:52
Minnesota lacks experience at SG? Last time I checked, Wiggins is in his 5th year and Rose is in his 10th. Okogie can't get playing time.

Minnesota has no need for Lee.

12 Dec 2018 18:58:32
Since when is Wiggins the starting 2 for the Wolves? He was the 3 all last season. Is this a Butler thing?

12 Dec 2018 19:16:45
Yes. Covington starts at SF, Wiggins at SG (as he should have been for his entire career) .

12 Dec 2018 20:21:18
Wiggens can't shoot lmao he isscorer.

12 Dec 2018 21:57:00
Makes sense if Covington is starting. I'd rather have Wiggins handle the ball than Covington. Wiggins is athletic enough to keep up with or go around other 2's or bully them with his size. Looks good to me.

11 Dec 2018 21:26:05

NYK- Marcin Gortat (exp), Milos Teodosic (exp), 2nd round pick
LAC- Enes Kanter

NYK- Garrett Temple (exp), Ivan Rabb (exp), 2nd round pick
MEM- Courtney Lee

NYK- John Wall, Jason Smith (exp)
WSH- Tim Hardaway Jr, Frank Ntilikina, Lance Thomas 2020 1st (top 5 protected)

These moves will free up enough for two MAX FA's this offseason for the Knicks. It also puts them in better position to obtain a top 5 pick in the draft by tanking. This could make the Knicks instant contenders next season.

Sign to MAX
SF Kevin Durant
C Demarcus Cousins

3- SG Cam Reddish

C Demarcus Cousins
PF Krisaps Porzingis
SF Kevin Durant
SG Cam Reddish
PG John Wall

C Mitchell Robinson
PF Kevin Knox
SF Damyean Dotson
SG Allonso Trier (Resign)
PG Emanuel Mudiay (Resign)

11 Dec 2018 22:39:50
Funk cousin garbage team player.

11 Dec 2018 22:47:46
In what world does 2 expiring contracts and a 2nd rounder get you Courtney Lee who still has 2 years on his contract and plays like 10 mins per game. NYK should be giving a pick in that case.

12 Dec 2018 00:11:04
Janet is yours until he expires. Temple is better than Lee. These deals are pipe dreams.

12 Dec 2018 00:40:28
The Knicks can not afford Wall, Durant, and Cousins along with Porzingis’ cap hold unless one of them are taking a major pay cut.

12 Dec 2018 02:23:27
This is actually funny. Not sure how you are going to get 2 max salary slots for the Knicks considering you will have cap holds for Porzingis and Mudiay as well as John Wall's super max deal goes into effect next season. #DoBetterResearch.

12 Dec 2018 02:29:05
Just a fyi. Jason Smith was traded to the Bucks for S. Dekker plus a 2nd rd pick and cash. The same trade brought G. Hill to the Bucks, and sent Dellavedova, Henson and a 1st and 2nd rd pick to The Cavs.

12 Dec 2018 15:54:39
Fredman you're not sure about anything from what I can tell.

12 Dec 2018 18:50:22
Btec, Really?

noah $6,431,666 noah $6,431,666
knox $4,385,640 knox $4,385,640
robinson $1,559,712 robinson $1,559,712
Dotson $1,618,520 Dotson $1,618,520
Mudiay resign min $1,378,242
Wall $38,150,000 Trier resigned min $1,378,242

PZ Cap Hold $17,091,162 Wall $38,150,000
Mudiay CH $12,883,437
Trier CH $ 4,134,726 Porzingis CH $17,091,162

Total Salary$86,254,863 Total Salary 2020 $71,993,184

Salary Cap $118,000,000 2020 Salary Cap $118,000,000

Cap Space $31,745,137 Cap Space $46,006,816

First row is basic breakdown of proposed moves which is way, way short of the $70 mil in cap space needed for 2 Max Contracts for Durant and Cousins. Second row is taking into the consideration of waiving rights to Trier and Mudiay and resigning them to minimum contracts (which is doubtful but possible) . Again, far short of the $75 Mil needed for Durant and Cousins.

And the scary part is that I have not added the salary cap holds based upon empty roster spots as well as for the first round lottery pick the Knicks have for Cam Reddish.

12 Dec 2018 19:16:30
mikefred/ Fredman, how much is Ryan Anderson getting paid next season? Answer that? I have no exception with insider27's post. Glad I know the new name of your trolling handle.

12 Dec 2018 20:08:02
Anderson has a $21 mil contract with 15.6 guarenteed next year. Still doesn't change the fact that I would not trade away most of the Kings expiring contracts for Anderson and Ariza and not expect a draft pick coming back. There will be better deals at the trade deadline for the Kings expriing deals and available cap space. Ariza does not significantly improve the Kings playoff chances. The previous trade proposals have been do-do and I can't understand why you don't see that.

12 Dec 2018 22:05:12
You called me out man! Called me a liar, accused me of disseminating bad info, and used that to accuse me of not knowing anything? This is the first I've seen or heard that you are aware of the significant salary difference of Anderson. Expiring contracts get picks when bad salary is taken in return!

11 Dec 2018 16:49:50
The Sixers get Porter, Ariza and a 2nd from both

The Wizards get Chandler, Z Smith, Mcconell and Bender

The Suns get Fultz, Korkmaz, and Patton.

11 Dec 2018 16:56:32
Add Muscla going to the Wizards*.

11 Dec 2018 17:49:25
Does money match?

11 Dec 2018 18:12:18
Yeah, but just barely and the 76ers would have to hope to get another big in the buy out market or with a small exception they have.

The Roster would look something like

Embiid/ A Johnson
Porter/ Bolden
Ariza/ Reddick
Butler/ Shake Milton.
Simmons/ Shamet

They really need an extra big and possibly another pg, but if they could find another solid back up big that could
Be a great 8 man playoff line up that would give teams fits with their length, athleticism and shooting.

11 Dec 2018 18:21:45
Make it Beal instead of Porter and add whatever draft picks you need to.

12 Dec 2018 02:38:25
So Suns trade Ariza, Bender and a 2nd round pick for Fultz, Korkmaz and Patton?

Patton verus Bender is a push.
Korkmaz versus 1st pick in the second round is a push.
So it basically is Ariza for Fultz

I think Phoenix can get a better deal for Ariza than this.

12 Dec 2018 04:04:25
They might be able to get a heavily protected 1st and filler, but they’re not getting a guy of Fultz’s potential upside. It’s low risk and high reward for Phoenix. Unless they want to take back a ton of bad money, they aren’t getting a Kings Randsom for Ariza.

12 Dec 2018 07:34:03
Fultz has no upside if he has the yips.

11 Dec 2018 14:38:38
Wizards - Randle and Miller

Pels - Morris and Oubre



10 Dec 2018 18:13:37
Bucks: B Beal

Was: Bledsoe+ H whiteside+ Wilson+ 2rnd pick Bucks

Miami: Porter+ Brogdon

10 Dec 2018 18:45:35
That's a horrible trade for wizards.

10 Dec 2018 20:43:27
Bucks aren't giving enough, Miami gets too much, Wizards pass immediately.

10 Dec 2018 16:20:35
Wizards trade Otto porter

Kings trade zbo, shumpert, and skal

Trade seems to obvious, what am I missing?
Wizards should take any option to shed this contract with wall and Beal contracts. Gives them contracts that roll off

Kings need a legit wing and have the cap room to take this and live w it for a few years knowing they aren't going to land a better legit free agent

10 Dec 2018 16:40:42
I like the idea. I see Porter as over paid by about 9-12mil annually. I think maybe some compensation going to the Kings for around 30mil dead money is a good idea.

10 Dec 2018 17:03:14
Porter could be good in Sacramento.

10 Dec 2018 18:14:32
As a kings fan think we do it with no compensation. We have to overpay for a marquee free agent to come anyways might as well take a guy who is locked up at the position w need.

10 Dec 2018 18:22:13
Is porter an all NBA defender? is porter all nba anything? Is he an All-star? How many players make 26mil and put up the numbers Porter does? As a basketball fan I hate to see small markets pay caviar prices for bait! Unless they are rewarded for their sacrifice.

10 Dec 2018 22:36:20
As much as I prefer to sign a legit wing for less, who are the kings going to entice for less? Hey offere Zach Lavine 4 years 80mm and still couldn’t land him. At some point kings need to get over hump and appear to be a legit team. They have youth talent, have to make next step or in 2-3 years all their talent just walk out to go to LA or NY. They have the cap space and flexibility and probably can offer porter more playing time than 30 min a game without somebody like Oubre behind him. Could think of plenty worse contracts out there than porters.

11 Dec 2018 14:28:07
Yeah, I would have to be desperate and see something else in Porter to be willing to help another team for free. Demare Carroll, MKG, or Allen Crabbe are better options in my opinion. It's a salary/ contribution problem for me. Harrison Barnes would be better, he's probably available.

10 Dec 2018 16:05:55
The Cavs get Mahimi, Knight, Melo(waive) Howard(waive), Chriss, Washington's 19 1st lottery protected, Miami's 19 pick top 10 Protected, Houston's 18 1st, Houston's 20 1st lottery Protected and a Houston 2nd

The Heat get Love, Wall, and Burks

The Wizards get Dragic, Whiteside, Nwaba and Zizic

The Rockets get T. Johnson, Winslow, Hood, and J Green

The Cavs sell Love, role players and cap space for picks.

The Wizards save a ton of money next year, get rid of Wall's attitude, and keep a winning team around Beal and Porter.

The Heat get two stars to put around Richardson and give themselves a shot to
be really good if the team can mesh.

The Rockets get the role players they need without giving up any of their valuable players.

10 Dec 2018 16:54:46
I like it cavs prepare for lb junior and James will be there coach and then eventually owner.

10 Dec 2018 22:54:33
I've particularly been following blow-up posts With the possibility Pels may have to do exactly the same. So far the ones you've posted are pretty solid.

09 Dec 2018 16:37:40
Cavs - Wizards

Deadline deal!

Cavs gets:
Rivers (expiring)
Morris (expiring)
2019 1st rd pick (lottery protected)
2023 2nd rd pick

Wizards gets:

Cavs gets future picks, two expiring contracts and a bad contract in exchange for their best player. More minutes for Nance and Zizic to develop.

Wizards save 4 million this year and reduce their luxury tax bill even more. Love gives them a better shooter at the 4 and Henson play backup 5.

09 Dec 2018 17:00:12
If the Wizards were actually a solid playoff team like they should be, I would say this trade is good.

09 Dec 2018 17:12:43
It works this season, but next season the luxury, coupled with likely repeater tax (unless they shed some salary) makes this trade irresponsible. Grunfeld should be fired anyway but this would be the nail in the coffin. I haven't, but put this in trade machine and check out its projected win increase. Is almost 100 mil in taxes worth it? They are still a barely hanging on east playoff team getting bounced in the 1st round.

09 Dec 2018 17:29:02
Throw Oubre in and it makes sense.

09 Dec 2018 17:59:19
Trade Oubre and Satoransky to Kings for Labissiere to get under the luxury tax.

09 Dec 2018 19:06:20
Love is not bringing pl as yes and picks. Morris right now is cheaper and a better playerm.

09 Dec 2018 19:26:07
Unless the Wizards plan on playing in a hospital, Love and Henson are both hurt, and don't actually know which will be coming back first, Or when! I believe Washington would pass.

09 Dec 2018 21:50:00
It makes sense for half a season until love is 30, and wall is 40, Beal is 30, porter is 30. 4 guys, over the luxury line? 10-12 other roster players each @ $4 per dollar spent? for that group?

10 Dec 2018 01:41:05
Shiller you’re the most bias person on here. In no way has either Morris brother EVER been better than K Love. You’re opinion should be invalid from now on lol.

10 Dec 2018 03:05:49
Magsnusarn, the Kings laugh at your trade offer. Not saying Skal is all that, but Oubre and Satoransky are exactly a whole lot better. Plus, the Kings would have to waive a player in order to create the roster spot. There just isn't enough juice in this deal to make it worth the King's time. Now, if you want to toss in a protected first rounder, then we would have something to talk about.

07 Dec 2018 19:16:51

Milwaukee: Beal, Smith, Bryant (via Vaughn exception)
Washington: Brogdon, DiVincenzo, Maker, Ilyasova, Henson, 2022 unprotected 1st, their 2020 2nd back and MIL 2020 2nd

Bucks upgrade their starting 5 from Brogdon to Beal at the cost of their depth and pretty much all the future assets they have available.


Wizards replace Beal with Brogdon, they get two prospects in DiVincenzo and Maker, two vets that can help them now and a package of picks. They will also be in the bordeline to avoid the tax after that.


07 Dec 2018 12:56:09
Nuggets: Julius Randle, Ian Clark
Pelicans: Markieff Morris, John Wall, +1rnd pick Denver 23
Wizards: Mason Plumlee, Solomon Hill,+ +1rnd pick Denver 21, +2rnd pick Pelicans 19

07 Dec 2018 17:22:52
Wizards say no.

06 Dec 2018 03:24:55
Pelicans Trade Jrue Hoilday Wesley Johnson 2019 first round pick (unprotected)

Wizards Trade Bradley Beal Kelly Oubre Jr

Pelicans got to do whatever it's take keep Anthony Davis happy get him some help

Second Trade

Magic Trade NIkola Vucevic Terrance Ross

Pelicans Trade Solomon Hill Juilus Randle 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

Salary Match

06 Dec 2018 04:41:34
Magic say hell nah.

06 Dec 2018 03:17:41
Boston/ Wizards

Boston - Hayward and Ojeleye
Washington - Porter and Smith

Wizards roll the dice on Hayward and Porter could be a nice small ball 4 for Boston


Howard (when healthy)

05 Dec 2018 16:56:21

Detroit: Wall (waives kicker), Rivers, Satoransky
Washington: Jackson, Leuer, Galloway, 2019 1st and 2nd

Pistons unload their two year contracts to make Wall with their two bigs Griffin and Drummond their Big 3. Along with SGs Kennard, Thomas, Brown they will have 111,7 million commited salary. Which means they can fill their roster with their full MLE and BAE and min vets.

Washington unload Wall and replace him with servicable Jackson. They commit to Beal, Porter, Oubre, TBJ, work with their picks in 2019 and they will have more than 30 million to spend in 2020 FA.

05 Dec 2018 17:16:30
I'd have to have some sort of confirmation Wall would waive his kicker. I highly doubt he's letting his golden goose go. DET should not do this, Griffin and Wall are not a Big enough 2, and not enough to win the east.

05 Dec 2018 18:14:56
Sometimes you can't compete for championship but can compete for a second round exit other then missing the playoffs. If I was Detroit I do the trade just for the fans.

05 Dec 2018 19:33:00
9955- that's a very expensive gift to fans.

05 Dec 2018 20:03:36
Yeah, I’m not sure that gift pays off 2 years from now when Wall and Griffin are both hurt and you’re paying 100 million in luxury tax.

05 Dec 2018 01:01:15
Knicks-Wizards Trade

Wizards get Courtney Lee, Frank Ntilikina, Lance Thomas, Damyean Dotson, a 2020 1st Round Draft Pick, and a 2020 2nd Round Draft Pick

Knicks get John Wall

05 Dec 2018 12:24:59
John Wall could get it together but he's a locker room gun incident away from from irrelevance right now and NY should know better.

04 Dec 2018 18:09:07
NYK- John Wall, Alex Albrines
WSH- Tim Hardaway, Jeremy Lamb, Frank Ntilitkina
OKC- Courtney Lee, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
CHA- Dennis Schroder, Markieff Morris

Knicks acquire a much needed PG and take on two expiring contracts to allow them to pursue top FA this offseason.

Wizards acquire Lamb and Ntilikina to get younger, and take on THJ to offset salary.

Thunder acquire a better 2 for their system in Lee and get a solid defender in MKG. Schroder doesn't seem to fit what they were expecting when they acquired him.

Hornets pick up Schroder to replace Kemba in the offseason and an expiring contract in Morris

I think this trade really benefits all teams involved. A 2nd round pick may need to be added somewhere, but this core makes sense for all 4 teams

04 Dec 2018 21:35:10
OKC says no. Shroeder playing good for them as a sixth man.

07 Dec 2018 02:13:23
Yea OKC says no. Schroder has fit what they wanted whem they got him.

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