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14 Sep 2017 02:03:26
Wolves-Wizards-Spurs-Pacers

Wolves : M.Morris, B.Forbes
- Morris would be the perfect stretch 4 for the Twolves as he plays as a role player and let their stars shine, a mid to late 1st is worth it.

Teague-Jones-Forbes
Butler-Crawford-Rush
Wiggins-Muhammad
Morris-Gibson
Towns-Dieng-Patton

Wizards : L.Aldridge
- they get their 3rd star
- sign Gerald Green

Wall-Frazier
Beal-Green-Meeks
Porter-Oubre
Aldridge-Satoransky
Mahinmi-Smith

Spurs : M.Gortat, T.Young, 1st from Wizards
- they move on from Aldridge and get 2 big men who can grind for them and adding a 1st. Quite a good return for LMA

Mills-Murray-Parker-White
Green-Ginobili
Leonard-Gay-Anderson
Young-Lauvergne-Bertans
Gasol-Gortat

Pacers : C.Aldrich, 1st from Twolves
- get a 1st to continue rebuild

Collison-Joseph-Young
Oladipo-Stephenson
Bogdanovic-GR3
Sabonis-Leaf
Turner-Jefferson-Aldrich

08 Sep 2017 06:49:03
heat : john wall, sheldon mac
pistons : dragic, gortat, olynyk
wizards : drummond, jackson, 1st round pick

08 Sep 2017 08:02:48
So the Wizards sign Wall long term just to trade him? Not happening.

08 Sep 2017 23:29:27
Oh wow that is just awful for the Wizards.

09 Sep 2017 17:51:36
This is potentially one of the worst deals ever posted on this site, which is no surprise coming from Miami honk Niko.

Washington might as well trade Beal for Courtney Lee and Otto Porter for CJ Miles while they're dealing Wall for garbage. Wall for Dragic, uh, no.

04 Sep 2017 05:56:43
Thunder/Wizards/Spurs

Thunder get Markieff Morris & Kevin Seraphin
get a starting pf and a defensive back up center

Westbrook-Felton-Christon
Roberson-McDermott-Ferguson
George-Grant
Morris-Patterson
Adams-Seraphin-Johnson

Wizards get Lamarcus Aldridge & Enes Kanter
get a 3rd star

Wall-Frazier
Beal-Meeks
Porter Jr-Oubre Jr-Satoransky
Aldridge-Scott
Kanter-Smith

Spurs get Marcin Gortat , Alex Abrines , 2nd from Thunder & 1st from Wizards
get a bruiser down low and Abrines who can be a very good player under pop

Mills-Murray-Parker
Green-Abrines-Ginobili
Leonard-Anderson
Gay-Lauvergne-Bertans
Gortat-Gasol

04 Sep 2017 06:11:21
Seraphin is with Barcelona overseas, were yoz thinking Mahinmi maybe?

04 Sep 2017 08:17:50
Yes tonchcorkins, Mahinmi i meant.

04 Sep 2017 19:54:07
okc says no.

17 Aug 2017 15:19:38
What if??
Kyrie goes to Spurs in 3 team deal involving aldridge (send back to Portland)

Melo goes to Rockets with Paul and Harden

Davis goes to Celtics with Thomas

Westbrook, George and Love(via trade) to Lakers with Lonzo Ball and Ingram

LeBron, Wade and Rose teaming up with Whiteside, Dragic and Winslow in Miami

DAndre Jordan to Bucks with Giannis, Brogdon and Middleton

Cousins to Wizards, reuniting with Wall

Nba top East teams would be Heat, Celtics, Wizards, Bucks, Raptors and Sixers

Nba top West teams would be Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Lakers, Wolves and Blazers

17 Aug 2017 15:51:54
Ok, how about proposing an actual trade.

17 Aug 2017 16:12:39
I see. And the other teams are just going to hand over their Superstars because we need 12 teams to have all the talent. try posting a trade idea instead of a "what if"

17 Aug 2017 16:34:23
The Spurs really don't have much of value to offer the Cavs and I don't see Portland being willing to give up much for Aldridge.

Melo to Houston still could happen, but at this point it seems like a long shot. Unless either Ny or Houston drastically change their stances it doesn't even seem close.

The Celtics would have to offer NO something ridiculous to even make it a conversation. From the Pelicans stand point, why trade Davis right now?

Outside of Ingram and Ball, what would the Lakers have that the Cavs would be interested in? They would have to let Randle walk to sign the first two and would almost certainly have to include Deng in any trade for Love. It's not happening.

Riley screwed over Wade 2 years ago. I don't see him or Lebron being willing to go back.

I' don't see Jordan being a player that Milwaukee really needs. They're already a long team that's solid on defense. They need more shooting.

The Wizards are capped out for the next few years and don't have many valuable assets out side of Wall and Beal, I'm not sure how they would end up with Cousins.

17 Aug 2017 07:43:45
Trades these teams need to make before the 2018 Playoffs!

Lakers : Jordan Clarkson + Luol Deng for Dwyane Wade

Celtics: Jayson Tatum for

Rockets: Trevor Ariza + Tarik Black + Eric Gordon for Carmelo Anthony

Cleveland: Iman Shumpert for Kyle Anderson

OKC: Enes Kanter + Andre Roberson for Dwayne Wade + Cristiano Felicia

Minnesota: Gorgui Deng + Tyus Jones for Greg Monroe + Tyus Jones

NYK: Carmelo Anthony + Joakim Noah for Malik Monk + Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Suns: Eric Bledsoe + Brandon Knight for Dante Exum + 2018 First Round Pick

PHI: Jahlil Okafor + Robert Covington for T.J. Warren + Brandon Knight or
Kent Bazemore

Kings: Kosta Koufous for Wesley Johnson

Bucks : Greg Monroe + Mirza Teletovic for Kent Bazemore + Miles Plumlee

Pelicans: Frank Jackson + 2018 First Round Pick for Tobias Harris

Nuggets: Emmanuel Mudiay + Will Barton + Kenneth Faried for Nicolas Batum

Spurs: Patty Mills + Kyle Anderson + 2018 First Round Pick for Eric Bledsoe

Wizards: Markieff Morris + Kelly Oubre for Keneth Faried

Raptors: Kyle Lowry + C.J. Miles +Serge Ibaka + 2018 1st Round Pick for Kyrie Irving + Iman Shumpert

This last one hurts the most.

17 Aug 2017 07:50:41
almost all are way off.

17 Aug 2017 10:13:08
like which ones.

17 Aug 2017 11:48:35
Can't say for sure, but I tend to doubt that Celtics would be willing to give Tatum away for nothing.

17 Aug 2017 12:00:47
Why would Minnesota want Monroe? And why trade for Tyus Jones when they have Tyus Jones?

17 Aug 2017 16:43:41
Why would the raptors trade there best Pg who's and Allstar and everyone else for kyrie. I laugh at how bad this trade request is maybe a Lowry Powell straight up with a draft pick For kyrie and shumpert.

17 Aug 2017 18:39:54
Knicks give melo and noah for monk and MKG? Yes please.

These are beyond foolish.

17 Aug 2017 22:25:59
Noah's contract is horrible and Monk dropped 50 in NCAA. You are getting another top 10 lottery pick and dumping Noah. For the rebuild.

15 Aug 2017 21:52:32
Cle: A Davis+ Jr Holiday

NO: K Love+ J Wall

Was: Irving+ 1rnd pick Cle 2021+ 1rnd pick NO 2018

16 Aug 2017 17:59:50
nice trade.

17 Aug 2017 14:39:51
Nice trade? Sure if your Cleveland or Washington. NOLA passes immediately.

11 Aug 2017 23:37:32
The Clippers get Irving, Frye, and Jason Smith

The Cavs get Jordan, Beverly, Oubre, and 2018 Clippers pick swap, and a 2021 Clippers 1st

Washington gets Williams and Felder

10 Aug 2017 10:48:14
This could work for all teams

Hou: C Anthony

Spurs: T Ariza+ R Anderson+ 1rnd pick Hou 2018

Was:LM Aldridge

NY: Oubre+ Morris+ J smith+ Mahinmi+ 1rnd pick Was 2018+ 1rnd pick Hous 2020

Hou receive the star they want.

LMA is better then Anderson, but Anderson can do what the Spurs need him to do. Ariza would be a great sixth man. And they can draft another young talent with the extra draft pick.

NY get's a great return for Carmelo. Two young players and two draft picks, so they can rebuilt

10 Aug 2017 11:37:24
6 pieces for Anthony?
Any one of them would get the deal done.

10 Aug 2017 13:54:09
Like the deal but Knicks aren't getting 2 firsts for Anthony. Maybe make them 2nds or nothing

10 Aug 2017 14:02:45
HOU doenst have their pick in 2018. Plus SAS won't take on Anderson.

10 Aug 2017 14:30:26
I think you're over estimating what Aldridge is worth (he isn't a huge upgrade over Morris who is the better defender and has a more modern skill set) and if the Wizards were willing to do this, why wouldn't the Spurs just take Morris Oubre and a 1st, which gives them similiar players that are significantly younger and a 1st that will probably be slightly better.

10 Aug 2017 16:01:23
So, I could see the Spurs taking Anderson and Ariza if it meant a pick as well, but Houston doesn't have one to give. As such, maybe Shawn Long or Troy Williams come in the deal, and the Spurs send a second to Washington with LMA.

Houston can send a future pick to the Knicks, but Washington shouldn't. If the Knicks can get Oubre and Morris, the fuller and a single pick is still a big win for them.

10 Aug 2017 17:09:59
Maybe this could work

Hous: C anthony

Was: LM Aldridge

Spurs: Morris+ Ariza+ Smith

Wizards: LMA+ 2rnd pick Hou 2018 and 2020

NY: Oubre+ R Anderson+ 1rnd pick Hou+1rnd pick Was 2018.

24 Jul 2017 15:34:25
PHO-CLE-WAS-NYK trade

Pheonix gets- Willy Hernangomez, Kelly Oubre Jr, Jason Smith, Thomas Satoransky

Cleveland gets- Carmelo Anthony, Eric Bledsoe, Markieff Morris, Kyle O'Quinn

Washington gets- Kevin Love

New York gets- Kyrie Irving, Edy Tavares

24 Jul 2017 00:57:41
Cavs: trade Irving to San Antonio

Spurs: trade D. Green and D Murray to Cavs

Cavs: trade K. Love to Wizards and 2020 1st round pick top 3 protected.

Wizards: trade B. Beal to Cavs

24 Jul 2017 02:47:08
The Spurs need to give way more.

24 Jul 2017 03:47:57
Poor Spurs fan over valuing there players.

19 Jul 2017 14:18:22
boston: A Davis

NO: J Wall+D Green+ T Parker (release)+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2019

Was: JR Holiday+ 1rnd pick Nets 2018+ 1rnd pick Vancouver 2019+ 1rnd pick Spurs 2018 and 2020

Spurs: A Horford

19 Jul 2017 14:43:55
Beyond ridiculous that an aging, overpriced Horford, 2 mid to late firsts, and the nets pick gets you one of the top 5 players in the game who is under contract for 3 more years, and is only 25. Celtics are committing robbery.

19 Jul 2017 15:17:57
This trade is beyond stupid. The Pels give up AD for Wall basically. Nope.

19 Jul 2017 22:36:19
Boston fans need to stop thinking AD is coming, he's locked up long term and you don't trade locked up under 25 yr old top 5 player. keep dreaming Boston fans, go have another sam Adams.

20 Jul 2017 02:30:00
Agree with all the comments. Washington isn't moving Wall unless he asks out at some point, Davis is even less likely to get moved, and Boston isn't giving any where near enough in this trade to get anyone's attention.

The Wizards are the 3rd best team in the East and are still pretty young. The Pelicans have a chance to be solid this year and even if they aren't they have time to blow
It up and build around Davis.

12 Jul 2017 03:13:29
Pelicans get Wall

Hawks get Asik, Jason Smith

Wizards get Diallo, Jackson, Quincy P, Bellinelli, two first round picks and two second round picks

Pistons get Moore and Ajinca

12 Jul 2017 04:16:01
The Wizards aren't trading Wall unless they think they'll lose him or they get a ridiculous offer. I also hate this for Atlanta.

12 Jul 2017 04:58:21
That is really terrible for the Wizards, Wall is the only big name i see in the trade. That's not going to happen.

12 Jul 2017 13:37:04
Trading Wall for that? It's like trading a 50 cent piece for 4 dimes and 2 plug nickels.

17 Jul 2017 11:24:11
Why would the Wizards do this?

12 Jul 2017 01:37:54
Wizards rest of offseason

Was gets - Lopez Payne and Bellineli

Chi gets - Oubre and Smith

Atl gets - Gortat

- Was gets a better rebounding and rim protecting big and adds wing depth

Wall/Payne
Beal/Bellineli
Porter/Bogdonovic
Morris/Scott
Lopez/Mahinimi

12 Jul 2017 02:02:31
What does Atlanta want with Gortat. He's a solid player, but he's to old to fit into their plans to rebuild.

12 Jul 2017 03:17:52
The basic rebounding numbers seem to show that Gortat is a much better rebounder than Lopez since he averaged nearly 4 more boards per game and only played like 3 more minutes per game. Overall don't think he is a better player either. Wizards already lost Bogdonovic to the Pacers, traded for a backup point guard in Tim Frazier and not sure how swapping Bellinelli for Oubre improves their wing depth. All in all don't think these moves make Wizards any better and they'd be better off sitting tight and just trying to add talent via vet mins in FA.

I think Bulls would be potentially interested in moving Lopez for a young talent like Oubre since they are rebuilding.

Hawks need a center but not necessarily the one of the caliber of Gortat but they aren't giving up much to get him in first place.

11 Jul 2017 14:45:09
PHX- John Wall, Derrick Favors
WSH- Eric Bledsoe, Marquese Chriss
UTH- Dragon Bender, Jared Dudley, 2018 1st from PHX (lottery protected)

PHX
PG- John Wall/Tyler Ulis
SG- Devin Booker/Brandon Knight
SF- TJ Warren/Josh Jackson
PF- Derrick Favors/Allen Williams
C- Tyson Chandler/Alex Len

WSH
PG- Eric Bledsoe/Tim Frazier
SG- Bradley Beal/Jodie Meeks
SF- Otto Porter Jr/Kelly Oubre Jr
PF- Markieff Morris/Marquese Chriss
C- Marcin Gortat/Ian Mahinmi

UTH
PG- Ricky Rubio/Dante Exum
SG- Rodney Hood/Donovan Mitchell
SF- Joe Ingles/Joe Johnson
PF- Boris Diaw/Dragon Bender
C- Rudy Gobert/Tony Bradley

11 Jul 2017 14:51:55
I think Bender should go to Washington instead of Utah but even then not sure it makes sense for / is enough value for Washington to part with Wall.

Favors as an expiring contract and someone who has been riddled by injuries lately I don't think is worth all that and probably not much more than Phoenix pick.

Complete steal for Phoenix to get Wall for so little.

11 Jul 2017 16:57:35
Only Phoenix would like this trade.

10 Jul 2017 08:21:53
Wizards-Spurs

Wizards get Lamarcus Aldridge
> get their 3rd star

Wall-Frazier
Beal-Meeks
Porter-Oubre-Satoransky
Aldridge-Scott
Mahinmi-Smith-McCollough

Spurs get Marcin Gortat , Markieff Morris & 2nd round pick
> get some depth

Mills-Parker
Green-Simmons-Ginobili
Leonard-Gay-Anderson
Morris-Bertans-Lee
Gortat-Gasol

10 Jul 2017 10:42:52
I like it for both teams. Spurs shouls sign Monta Ellis also.

10 Jul 2017 13:19:23
Great move for Wizards just meh for Spurs. Their overall offseason has been quite underwhelming especially when going into it they were clearly the 2nd strongest team in the west. I think losing a legitimate #2 option will hurt the Spurs especially in the playoffs when stars are more important than depth but adding two solid two way players isn't a terrible move.

12 Jul 2017 01:35:36
I Like this trade for Washington, but i think the Spurs would want a 1rnd pick.

09 Jul 2017 01:09:23
Wizards-Sixers-Spurs

Wizards get Aldridge
Sixers get Mahimi 2018 Wizards 1st, 2018 Spurs 1st
Spurs get Morris, Okafor, KCP (s&t from sixers cap room)

09 Jul 2017 14:11:26
If I'm the 76ers I probably would just prefer to keep KCP for myself. Although not awful value for the Spurs the league is more star driven than ever and this move would make it difficult for them to add another star caliber player with Kawhi.

09 Jul 2017 15:45:26
this is a great trade.

09 Jul 2017 18:01:31
It's a good trade for all teams besides the sixers. Taking the 15 million from mahinmi for 3 years doesn't fit to their future. Let alone the bad return for taking the contract. The 2 picks in the range 25-28 are maybe the value for the s&t and for Okafor.

07 Jul 2017 05:14:28
Pacers Next Offseason
2017-18
Trade Thad Young and 2 Future 2nd rounders to Jazz for Exum and Mitchell
S&T Miles to Wizards for Oubre Jr. and future 1st
At deadline trade Jefferson (expiring contract) and future 1st for Zach Collins
(Optional)At deadline or after season flip Sabonis or Leaf to Raptors for OG Anuboy
18-19 Lineup
Exum/Stephenson
Oladipo/Mitchell
Robinson III/Anuboy/Oubre Jr.
Collins/Leaf
Turner/Ike A.
Team with Huge Upside
Later on if Mitchell, Oubre Jr., and Anuboy turn into starter talent flip Oladipo, Robinson III, and future 1st to clear Oladipo's bad contract.

Thoughts?

07 Jul 2017 09:35:05
All those deals are heavily favoring Pacers. I doubt Young and 2 2nds get you Exum or Mitchell by themselves let alone both of them. After Jazz lost Hayward they'd be wise to keep their two best young talent or at least get better value for them.

The sign and trade for Miles isn't as bad but I doubt Wizards do it especially since they are way over the cap and Miles would surely make more than Oubre's rookie deal so won't work financially.

Similarly Blazers are way over the cap and couldn't do the Jefferson for Collins trade, not that they would since its not great value on a guy you just traded up to get at #10.

Sabonis flip isn't bad value but Raptors would probably prefer Anunboy who can once healthy be a difference maker right away on the defensive end and has solid upside.

06 Jul 2017 17:44:38
Kings - Wizards

Kings gets:
Mahinmi
Bogdanovic (S&T)
2018 1st round pick
2019 2nd round pick

Wizards gets:
Koufos


Kings get another Bogdanovic and two picks for taking on Mahinmis bad contract. They rebuild and won't compete next year.

Wizards shead salary to get tax relife. When they match Porter their tax bill will be huge and moving Mahinmi is the right move.

06 Jul 2017 17:14:16
Grizzlies - Wizards

Grizzlies gets:
Mahinmi
Smith
2018 1st round pick (top 3)
2019 1st round swap right
2020 1sr round pick (top 3)

Wizards gets:
Gasol

06 Jul 2017 17:28:56
Not certain what the market is like for 32 yr old Gasol or even if Memphis are looking to deal him. Wizards would be wise to try but I don't think this would be enough to convince Memphis to move him.

06 Jul 2017 00:34:26
Boston: K Love+ Drummond

Cle: Bradley+ Horford

Detroit: M Morris+ Frye+1rnd pick Clippers 19+ 1rnd pic Memphis 19+ 1rnd pick Boston 2018+ 1rnd pick Was 2018

Was: J Crowder

Boston:
C: Drummond/ zizic
PF: +K Love/ Ojeleye
SF: Hayward/ Isaac
Sg: Smart/ J Brown
PG: I Thomas/ Rozier

Cleveland receive a good replacement for KLove in Horford And Bradley is a good shooter and defender.

Detroit can rebuilt with 4 extra draft picks

Washington get a cheap replacement for Porter

06 Jul 2017 12:33:20
Complete steal for Boston. For the Cavs its alright, I rather have Love than Horford but Bradley would be a great fit as a 3 and D guard. Only thing is Bradley is in final year of his contract and will be a unrestricted FA that will demand a lot of money so he'll be expensive for Cavs to keep around (They should dump Shumpert and/ or Smith if they were to get him) .

Hate it for Detroit. Drummond isn't perfect but he is young, signed long term and one of best rebounders in the game. Although that's 4 1sts all of them with exception of maybe Memphis aren't going to even be in the lottery so not that much value there. Celtics would have to include at least the Lakers/ Kings pick if they were serious about adding Drummond (maybe even Nets pick) .

I think Washington is going to match Porters contract anyway but Crowder would be a solid and much cheaper replacement. Issue is they are giving up a starter in Morris so they are opening up another hole in the lineup.

06 Jul 2017 14:08:14
As a Pistons fan I'm fine with this trade. Although he's a great rebounder, Drummond sucks at everything else a big man is supposed to do and I question his work ethic. The upside is there but I'd much rather get 4 firsts out of him and rebuild. Pistons need to get out of this mediocre rut they've been stuck in.

06 Jul 2017 13:14:05
I could replace Morris by J Smith

Washington could match the Porter offer, but that's a huge contract for a non all star. And if they do sign him, Crowder would be a great sixth man (can play the two, three and four), on a reasonable contract.

I think Detroit could do this. Drummond is good, but they're playing for the eight spot. so they should trade him for draft picks, maybe the LA pick should be involved, but i'm not sure Ainge is prepared to give up that pick.

06 Jul 2017 14:58:23
That's all crazy. Boston couldn't afford both of those players. Plus, Drummond doesn't work in Brad Stevens system. He'd be uselesa, especially at his price tag.

06 Jul 2017 15:05:14
Not a terrible idea and the value isn't bad, but I don't see the Cavs facilitating a deal where Boston ends up with 2 allstars. It seems counter productive.

07 Jul 2017 14:52:19
@ Yumbo

Horford :28 M
Crawford: 9M
Bradley: 7M
Tot: 44M

K Love: 23M
Drummond :23M
Tot: 46 M.

07 Jul 2017 14:53:33
@rkenne_16

true, but this trade improves Cleveland too.
And maybe Cleveland need a stronger East.
So they are prepared to face Golden State.

 
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