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22 Feb 2019 16:03:29
Nets- Was

Was: Crabbe+ LeVert+Harris+ 1rnd pick Nets+ 1rnd pick Denver+ 1rnd pick 2020

Nets: Beal

Nets sign: T Harris
resign: Russell
Q-offer: Hollins-Jefferson


Nets:
C:J Allen
PF: Harris
SF: Hollins Jefferson
SG:Beal
PG:Russell
sixth: Dinwidie

22 Feb 2019 17:33:41
No way that anyone would give up that much for Beal.

22 Feb 2019 17:37:24
Make that nets 2020 pick a 2021 pick.

22 Feb 2019 18:32:21
The nets have a shot at Durant and Leonard added to their young group. Russell, Levert, Dinwiddie, Allen, Kurucs, Harris, Musa. Also, Beal has cred with the fans, and keeps seat bottoms warm for a tough road ahead. He couldn't hurt season ticket sales either.

21 Feb 2019 18:18:18
If Washington could move up in the draft.


Wolves: Beal

Was: Teague+Covington+ 1rnd pick Wolves+ 1rnd pick 2021 and 2023

Was draft: Reddish and Langford

21 Feb 2019 22:05:16
Way too much for Minnesota to pay.

20 Feb 2019 20:51:39
Wizards
Roberson
Patterson
Pick for Wizards '19 Thunder 1st

Thunder
John Wall injury relief money (save money)

20 Feb 2019 23:43:03
According to Spotrac. com, Wizards only have $2.5 mil left on that exception that expires March 11th. So salaries aren't close.

Also, Thunder cannot trade their 2019 1st rounder until draft day in June.

Additionally, Patterson cannot be traded until he opts in/ July because of his player option for next season.

Sooooooo. Zero chance of happening.

21 Feb 2019 02:37:05
I 100% agree with Fredman because that's exactly what I said. OKC picks for Wizards '19 1st. Isn't every trade a summertime trade on here right now? The John Wall injury money is for next season because the deadline has passed. He will miss enough games for the full injury relief. Who is posting trades for this season right now?

21 Feb 2019 03:42:21
Include Dennis.

21 Feb 2019 08:02:40
Jorga made me do a little homework.

To qualify for a disabled player exception next season, the injured player is "substantially more likely than not to be unable to play" through June 15, 2020. 17 months is a long time for a doctor to say that a player is unable to play basketball to grant this exception.

Additionally, only one replacement player can be signed or traded for using this exception (and they must be on expiring contracts) .

Why doesn't OKC just trade these two + pick to ATL, CLE, PHX or CHI when the new season starts? Much easier to do.

21 Feb 2019 18:19:50
ESPN, the athletic, bleacher report have all given the 18.5-18.6 relief estimated dollar amount.

Plus, all said because an Achilles injury (substantially unlikely to play) the exception will be available right away because it is at least a year. That has Wall starting court work maybe late February-March 2020. Wiz can spend the money, allocate relief later. I'd accept your wager on the Wiz making the playoffs 2020.

You got me on 2 players but Wizards are allowed to if Mahinmi agrees to restructure his final season under that relief waiver, giving the wizards Mahinmi's cap dollars.

Wizards absorbing players for a 1st into their cap is more difficult than for ATL, CLE, PHX, CHI? Why?

All I wanted to know was why you thought it was an illegal trade, and not for after July 1,2019? Did I write something improperly that indicates I'm ignorant of what a trade deadline is? But I got all this, please don't reply, I think I have you figured.

20 Feb 2019 02:08:03
Wizards should trade the Wall injury compensation for a 1st like Nets did acquiring faried last season. Could have 2 lottery and one 1st when Wall returns if they tank next season

19 Feb 2019 21:53:28
This summer.

Phoenix gets Wall, Patterson, protected Washington 1st

Washington gets Roberson, Jackson

Oklahoma City gets Warren, Howard, 2 Washington 2nds

Phoenix can afford to wait for Wall. If it works out, they get a star who can redefine his career in Phoenix. If it doesn't, they get the pick and risk only a bit.

Washington could keep Roberson (dpoy candidate when healthy) reunited with his Brooks. Or they could buy out the final year of his deal and get out of TONS of salary in exchange for a first. Rebuild around Beal.

Oklahoma seems committed to the luxury tax and going for a championship (I'm one of the proud few who think they could do it this year). Flip Dre for Warren and Patterson for Dwight is splashy and risky. But they get back more offense and athleticism. Helps depth.

19 Feb 2019 22:40:37
Risk only a bit? He’s going to be on the wrong side of 3. Coming back from heel and Achilles surgery. And making 45+ million for multiple years.

Seems like a tad more than “a bit”.

19 Feb 2019 23:24:39
Booker will be a star before Wall gets back.

20 Feb 2019 00:28:08
Not a chance that trade goes down for an injured player.

20 Feb 2019 03:53:15
You might have wall on your team for 4 more years taking up a little less than half your cap. The Wizards would need to multiple unprotected picks to get off of Wall.

19 Feb 2019 16:43:48
Washington
Ian Mahinmi
D. Howard
Wall injury exception-18.5

Detroit
Drummond
R.Jackson
2020 1st lottery protected for 2 years

19 Feb 2019 17:05:55
Why for Detroit?

19 Feb 2019 17:20:11
Why not?

19 Feb 2019 20:54:24
That first is going the wrong way. Drummond has value, yet you're giving away him and a first to unload Jackson?

19 Feb 2019 21:53:15
That first is going in the wrong direction indeed.

Maybe if Washington gives their 2019 unprotected pick.

19 Feb 2019 22:35:04
Drummond/ jackson are overpaid. Obviously this allows Detroit to reposition after their attempt at the playoffs. Capella is better than Drummond, just signed a contract for 10 less a season. Whiteside is better than Drummond and gets ridiculed all the time. B. Lopez is better than Drummond.

20 Feb 2019 00:50:23
Yeah and Walls contract is overpaid as well for more years and won’t play next year at all. Mahinmi is always on the books for next year at 15mil and a backup. At least Drummond and Jackson start and will be available to play.

20 Feb 2019 04:28:31
Wall's contract? Wall's injury exception, not John Wall the player. It's half his salary for next season, good for a year, not tax free. Wall is not in the trade.

17 Feb 2019 19:15:36
Got to have plan B, If knicks fail to land Williamson (Cleveland), Durant Resign and Irving Cousins sign (Lakers) Leonard (Clippers). Thompson Walker Vucevic resign. Butler and Harris resign

After Knicks draft Morant 2nd, trade DSJ to Celtics for 18th, Ntilikina 51 to Hawks for 35 43 46. Knox for Langford

Add 6 very good vets
Green Ariza Milsap Jordan Gay Young
2 yr 28 mil.

Morant-2/Allen/Howard-43
Green/Langford-10/Dotson
Ariza/Gay/Paschall-35
Milsap/Young/Washington-46
Jordan/Robinson/Fernando-18

18 Feb 2019 09:01:07
I would keep Knox over Langford.

18 Feb 2019 19:14:39
Your free agency predictions seem accurate to me except Kyrie. He would look like such an idiot going to LA. He cried his way out of Cleveland because he wanted to be the man, and gave up another trip to finals with Cleveland. 2 years later he is going to run back to LeBron, no way. He's not going to NY with Durant either like rumors are saying. He would be Durant's side kick there. He will stay in Boston and AD will join him. He will be AD's side kick, but since he was there 1st he can say AD came to play beside him.

18 Feb 2019 23:01:46
Nick go celtics 🤣.

15 Feb 2019 02:00:19
Boston trades J brown , Gershwin Yab and A Baynes + 3 first round picks
Washington trades Beal

15 Feb 2019 03:41:31
Either horford or irving would have to opt up in order for Boston to have the cap space for this.

15 Feb 2019 05:51:59
WAS won't trade Beal until summer 2020 @ the earliest. Wall's injury changed things. They could tank next season beal could rack up the stat sheet and WAS could add a lottery pick. Could also use the John Wall injury exception to get another pick, or remain competitive spend it on a free agent.

14 Feb 2019 16:01:47
Knicks Offseason


Sign
PG Kyrie Irving
SF Kevin Durant

Draft
PF Zion Williamson

TRADE
NYK- Bradley Beal
WSH- Dennis Smith Jr, Kevin Knox, 2021 1st (NYK), 2023 1st (DAL)


G- Kyrie Irving
G- Bradley Beal
F- Kevin Durant
F- Zion Williamson
C- Mitchell Robinson

14 Feb 2019 16:43:25
Cap issue.

14 Feb 2019 17:25:37
Now that's a very tall order. Lol.

14 Feb 2019 17:48:15
Have to match Beal’s salary to make that deal, which the Knicks don’t have the ability to do.

15 Feb 2019 01:04:20
Triangle is right because once Irving, Durant and Williamson are signed, the Knicks will only have about $5 mil left in cap space for the Beal trade.

14 Feb 2019 07:27:09
If Celtics are willing do Irving for Ntilikina and DSJ, they get good value in return and save 25 mil from resigning another max contract. They develop 2 PG behind Rozier. They can keep the remaining core with them. Remember Celtics are playing better without Irving.

That save ny 11 more mil to resign Jordan. NY pays 21 mil towards next yr vs 32mil on a max contract. Also saves NY 7 mil for loosing 2 players who won't ever be starters ahead of Irving.


Best trade for All parties

Pelicans get Ingram Thompson Henson
2019 and 2021 LA
2021 and 2023 DAL
2020 and 2022 NY
Lakers get Knight Moore Love Davis
Cavs get Knox Hart Trier
Knicks get Ball Dellavedova cavs 2019 1st

Cavs dump 73 mil in salary, avoid luxury taxes and get a 2 solid 20yr old future star at SG and SF.

Roster with 60 mil cap flexibilty
Sexton/Clarkson/Staukus
Hart/Trier/Nwaba
Knox/Osman/Adel
Nance/Chriss/Blossomgame
Cousins/E.Davis/Zizic

Pelicans 😍
Henson and Thompson can share the Davis responsibility for 1 yr as 2 others develop to replace Davis. Ingram 6 1st for Davis almost like Hershall Walker trade.

Ingram/Payton/Jackson
Holiday/Dort-39/Williams
S.Johnson/Miller/S.Hill
Randle/Henson/Hayes-9
Thompson/Okafor/Bol-13

Lakers keep Kuzma get 2 all stars and 2 shooters on perimeter around Lebron.

Knight/BHands-pickup
Moore/Stephenson/Vick-pickup
Lebron/Bullock/Norvall-pickup
Love/Kuzma/Wagner
Davis/McGee/Chandler

Trade Ball Dellavedova to magic for Augustin 10th 35th 43rd

Irving/Augustin/Allen
Barrett-3rd/Langford-10th/Dotson
Durant/Paschall-35/C.Johnson-51
Williamson-1st/Vonleh/Washington-43
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

14 Feb 2019 13:07:44
Lol. Ball and Dellavedova get the 10th pick in the draft. Yea, not happening.

Fultz got a FUTURE LATE 1st rounder. Ball is not going to get much more than that. Especially after the Fultz rrade.

14 Feb 2019 16:24:29
Horrible for NOLA Henson sucks and so does Thompson. The picks for LA would almost be very late firsts.

14 Feb 2019 16:50:13
Lakers 2019 lottery. 1 yr thompson Henson until bol and Jaxson take over. Fultz has not shown us anything that he belongs in nba, so arguement about comparison to ball is horrible. Ball and Fultz potential backcourt is interesting future. Name a better pg guard after 10 pick when Garland and Morant are already gone. Both of you loose on your arguement. 6 freakin 1st for any player including jordan is freakin awesome. dacman fredman 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 18:21:04
Much rather have Tatum Rozier and Brown with 3 picks.

14 Feb 2019 19:58:58
Cant include Brown in sign and trade when other people are involved unless the trade happen in January. Davis won't stay and listen to his father, omg dacman. Irving is not staying. Keep who wants to staying boston. Boston will still be good. Just never great. 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 21:00:55
This is Brown’s 3rd year in the league. He has a team option that will get picked up if it already hasn’t.

13 Feb 2019 19:28:47
Knicks need to be creative to resign Jordan while adding 2 super max

Knox to Grizz for Reddish

Conley/Wright/Carter
Holiday/Myles/Palmer-54
Knox/Brooks/Chandler
Jackson/Anderson/Rabb
Valanciunas/Noah/Wiley-35

Knox and Jackson great forward combo eventually will play PF and center

DSJ to Heat for Langford

Dragic/DSJ/Roach-Pickup
Richardson/Waiters/Vick-pickup
Winslow/JonesJr/Robinson
Johnson/Olynyk/Maten
Whiteside/Bam/D.Hernandez-pickup

Garland might go sooner, heat need a PG, this is fair value.


Ntilikina Trier to Hawks for Paschall-35 Washington-43 M.Howard-46

Young/Ntilikina/Garland-12
Bazemore/Huerter/Trier
Prince/Hachimura-5/Bembry
Collins/Vonleh/Spellman
Cousins/Len/Plumlee

Hawks could win 40 games next yr with solid depth.

This clear 12 mil to resign DeAndre Jordan 2yr 28mil and Irving and Durant sign 2yr 70 mil (33mil-2019 & 37mil-2020 player opt) before signing rookies contracts

Irving/Howard/Allen
Reddish/Langford/Dort-51
Durant/Paschall/Dotson
Williamson/Washington/Lawson-pickup
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

Lotto Draft
Knicks-Williamson
Suns-Morant
Cavs-Barrett
Bulls-Fernando
Hawks-Hachimura
Grizz-Reddish
Wizards- Little Wall to Pacers for Holiday 23
Magic-Okpala
Pelicans-Alexander-Walker
Detriot-Johnson
Hawks-Garland
Celtics-Culver
Pelicans-Bassey

13 Feb 2019 20:34:02
Why would Memphis do that?

This is just so bad overall.

13 Feb 2019 23:38:00
That draft has so many players going too early.

14 Feb 2019 01:44:53
Carl,

Maybe Detriot or Pelicans Culver or Johnson instead of Reddish. Knicks need a 3D sg better than Dotson.

14 Feb 2019 01:57:24
So memphis drafts a younger better shooter and trades the wing they needed for years for Knox? Lol.

14 Feb 2019 06:31:01
Fernando, Okpala, Hachimura and Alexander Walker will not be top 10 picks.

14 Feb 2019 07:52:44
Knox is 19 going to be 20 next yr shelfish.

07 Feb 2019 04:54:32
Nets - Ariza
Wizards - Dudley Williams Musa & 2nd

Russell/Harris/RHJ/Ariza/Allen

Thunder - Green
Wizards - Felton and 1 or 2 2nds

Westbrook/Ferguson/PG/Grant(Green)
Adams

- Wizards add 2/3 2nds which they don't have and adds a prospect
- Nets gets a stretch four to push for playoff
- Thunder gets versatile forward off the bench

07 Feb 2019 18:27:16
Wizards resigning Ariza.

07 Feb 2019 06:45:55
Wizards get Fultz Ntilikina Hezonja Patton
Sixers get Vonleh Mudiay L.Thomas
Knicks get Parker Kormaz 34 43 55

Wizards risk on Ntilikina and Fultz to replace wall for the future. Trade Wall for Mosgov Simmons Augustin 32 47. Mahinmi for Crabbe.


19-20
Augustin/Ntilikina/Fultz
Beal/Satoranky/Dort-32
Reddish/Crabbe/Brown
Portis/Simmons/Clarke-47
Bryant/Howard/Mosgov

Knicks trade 2 assets with expiring contract for 3 2nd and to clear additional money resign Jordan for mle.than 5 for vet minimum

19-20
Irving/Beverly/I.Thomas
Ellington/StephensonVick-pickup
Durant/Paschall-34/Bowen-51
Davis/Washington-43/Lawson-55
Jordan/O'Quinn/Govan-pickup

Sixers add 2 final piece to put them finals. Best starting 5 in east and solid bench. I expect sixers to win a title.

Simmons/Mudiay/McConnell
Reddick/Brewer/Smith
Butler/Scott/Thomas
Harris/Vonleh/Bolden
Embiid/Marjonovic/Johnson

07 Feb 2019 13:10:12
NY trades all their PG's?

06 Feb 2019 22:24:22
WIZARDS / THUNDER Deal


Thunder trade Patterson and Noel along with 3 2nd Round Picks to

Wizards for Dwight Howard and Jeff Green.

-5 on the Trade Machine for Wizards

+1 on the Trade Machine for Thunder.


This won't happen . but, I wish it did. Most of you . this deal is pretty much unrealistic . but, I'm dreaming of this of this trade.

07 Feb 2019 01:23:44
I personally like it for the wiz, they get the athletic lob catcher and rim protector they’ve always wanted for Wall/ Beal. Idk if OKC needs to give 3 2nds. I also don’t know when Howard will be back so Okc would have no backup center until he does.

06 Feb 2019 12:48:49
WIZARDS / GRIZZLIES / THUNDER


Washington gets
Conley and Gasol from GRiZZLIES
3 2nd Round Picks from THUNDER
Brooks from GRIZZLIES (Add on)

Memphis gets
2 1st Round Picks from WIZARDS and Mahinmi.
Schoder, Roberson, and Patterson from THUNDER
Future Consideration from THUNDER

Oklahoma City gets
Beal and Howard from WIZARDS


To fix the John Wall Problem for the WIZARDS

Memphis gets 70 Million Cap Space in 2 years from now.


THUNDER LINEUP

PF Howard
SF George
SC Adams
PG Westbrook
SG Beal

That's a powerful lineup.

06 Feb 2019 14:40:37
There is no way D-12 can play PF any more.

06 Feb 2019 15:21:08
Agree with triangle. Howard is done if he wants a life after ball. Anyone with a bad back, lower L4 L5, herniated disc, ruptured disc, numbness in your ass, foot, or leg knows this injury all too well. The risk for a minimum salary is far too great, unless he's bankrupt.

06 Feb 2019 07:11:38
Hornets Wizards

Trade 1

Hornets trade: M.Kidd-Gilchrist M.Monk M.Bridges 1st round pick

Receive: B.Beal

Trade 2

Hornets Grizzlies

Hornets trade: M.Williams J.Lamb F.Kaminsky 2nd round pick

Receive: M.Gasol

Hornets Roster
Walker Parker Graham
Beal Bacon Macura
Batum Casspi
Zeller (FA)
Biyombo Hernangomez

06 Feb 2019 12:59:03
No way trade one gets you Beal. Shoot, Tobias got two firsts, Beal will cost significantly more.

06 Feb 2019 13:59:03
Yea, the price for talented players just went up considering what the Clips got for Harris.

06 Feb 2019 16:21:04
Couple of late 1sts, and nobody who will be on the roster next season is a big package? Harris is worth that and I don't view it as a haul unless picks are being overvalued, or Landry shamet.

05 Feb 2019 23:26:41
4-TEAM MEGA TRADE
(I know it seems fantastic but want to hear your opinion)


Lakers get A.Davis, B.Beal, E.Payton, J.Green, D.Melton, C.Diallo and K.Williams
Pelicans get B.Ingram, K.Kuzma, T.J.Warren, I.Zubac, T.Ariza, R.Rondo, LAL's 2023 1st round pick, LAL's 2020 2nd round pick and LAL's 2021 2nd round pick
Wizards get J.Jackson, K.C.Pope, M.Wagner, W.Johnson, S.Hill, LAL's 2019 1st round pick, LAL's 2021 1st round pick and LAL's $3.75M cash
Suns get L.Ball, L.Stephenson, M.Beasley and S.Decker


Lakers:
- sign C.Anthony
* Lakers acquire the stars needed next to James. They could've just traded for Davis, instead of involving Beal to the package, but it'd lower their chance of getting 3rd star in 2019 free agency (check out salary cap'19 and probable team salary otherwise). The trade costs much for LAL but the clock is ticking down for LeBron.

Payton - Melton - Bonga
Beal - Hart - Williams
James - Green - Mykhailiuk
Davis - Anthony
McGee - Chandler - Diallo


Pelicans:
- trade N.Mirotic and F.Frazier to Jazz for T.Sefalosha, E.Udoh, R.Neto and UTA's 2019 1st round pick
* Pelicans get exciting young prospects (Ingram, Kuzma, Zubac), possible 6th-man on a reasonable deal (Warren), two veterans on expiring contracts, salary relief (bye-bye Hill) and multiple draft picks. Considering Davis' other preferred destinations (NYK, LAC, Bucks), this package is the best package they can get for AD.

Holiday - Rondo - Neto
Ingram - Moore - Clark
Ariza - Warren - Sefalosha
Kuzma - Randle - Miller
Zubac - Okafor - Udoh


Wizards:
* Wall and Howard are out for at least for a month now, so it seems that Wizards won't make it to the playoffs. This deal allows them to snatch two promosing youngsters on rookie contracts, avoid paying luxury tax (the team salary goes down ~$7M), get two 1st round picks and cash (for swallowing Hill's contract).

Satoransky - Randle - (Wall)
Pope - Brown - Jenkins
Jackson - Johnson - Hill
Porter - Morris - Wagner
Bryant - Mahinmi - (Howard)


Suns:
* Even though Warren is pretty solid and Jackson has an upside, Suns desperately need a point guard. They already have good young forwards with better ceiling (Oubre and Bridges), and pairing Booker with a star-potential guard like Ball should be their priority. Ball-Booker would be good combo, and Suns will be super exciting if they land Zion Williamson in the draft too.

Ball - Okobo - Ewans
Booker - Crawford - Daniels
Oubre - Stephenson - Decker
Bridges - Anderson - Beasley
Ayton - Bender - Holmes


Thoughts?

06 Feb 2019 06:13:42
it's to big of a trade that will never happen but dosnt sound bad.

04 Feb 2019 23:39:19
Bucks/ Knicks

To MIL - Vonleh

To NYK - Wood, 2020 2nd (via Washington)

Bucks are said to be looking for a front court piece before Thursday. Vonleh is a nice fit and quality piece for the balance of the season.

Wood is expiring, and the Knicks get a decent 2nd, which is about what Vonleh is worth.

05 Feb 2019 00:32:49
Take out Wood, and put in Maker!

05 Feb 2019 02:41:56
Sixers will give us 1st for Vonleh.

05 Feb 2019 04:14:52
Firstly, shizzee, I am also a Knicks fan.

Secondly, as good of a season as Noah has had, he’s still a rotation player on an expiring deal. Think it will be hard to find anyone willling to give up a first for him.

04 Feb 2019 19:52:35
Jordan for Maker Hill

Knicks release Hill he returns to bucks April 7.

Mathews for Chandler Smith

Knicks release Hill he returns to Sixers April 7

Mudiay Vonleh Thomas
for
Muscala Patton McConnell 1st

Knicks will put Sixers in finals


2 max contracts Irving and Durant
Knicks sign Lopez Brothers for mle
Sixers 1ST and 2020 NY 1ST for Hawks 1st

Irvings/DSJ/Ntilikina
Langford/Trier/Smith
Durant/Knox/Dotson
Williamson/Maker/Washington-51
Lopez/Lopez/Robinson

04 Feb 2019 22:20:43
According to Spotrac George Hill's 2020 salary ($18 mil) becomes fully guarenteed if waived on or before July 2nd 2019. After that date he can be waived and only cost $1 Mil on the 2020 salary cap.

So this is blownup from the start, unless you want the knicks to lose a max cap slot for dead money.

04 Feb 2019 22:34:39
There are some people that are acutely clueless. I nearly spit out my coffee laughing at a few replies.

05 Feb 2019 03:35:10
@shizzee and @Fredman Disregard my response, screen bounced me to this thread, was meant for next post down.

04 Feb 2019 18:49:10
Portland - Washington

Blazers- harkless, Turner, this year lotto prot. First

Wizards- porter

Blazers take on porters big contract in hopes that he can be the final peice in the starting unit. After the Hood trade it looks like there will be another move to come to open up mins for him. And this seems to make Sense.

Wizards have one year less to pay in contracts and get a first for taking on worse players.

04 Feb 2019 23:02:53
Nurkic
Aminu
Hood/ porter
McCollum
Lillard

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