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15 Oct 2019 23:29:01
Hornets get Schroeder, Nader, Burton
***A backup for Rozier that could also provide a spark. I think Schroeder could also use a change of scenery with so many ball handlers in okc.

Grizz get MKG, Monk, 2020 Denver 1st
***They get another pick and a young asset. If MKG can play, great. If he stinks, cool. $13M expiring.

Thunder get Anderson, Crowder
***I'd like to see OKC see how far they could go in the West. Most of the top teams have reason to underachieve (ex Warriors have Klay hurt, KD gone, Russel to incorporate AND Rockets have to figure out how feed both Harden and Russ and no picks to trade to fill out the bench).

CP3, Graham, FA (Felton?)
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Crowder, Anderson, Roberson
Gallo, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

(Realistically the backup pg is SGA and graham the third)

15 Oct 2019 22:00:26
I wouldn't do this if I was the Knicks. But Detroit is willing to make this package available, I would strongly consider it. I like Frank better than Payton and Smith.

Ntilikina Trier Dotson
for
Thomas Makhailliuk Brown Det 2020 1st 10 protected

Jackson/Rose/Ntilikina
Galloway/Trier/Dotson
Kennard/Johnson/Snell
Griffin/Maker/Doumbouya
Drummond/Morris/Wood

Payton/Smithjr/Thomas
Barrett/Ellington/Brown
Knox/Bullock/Makhailliuk
Randle/Morris/Brazdeikas
Robinson/Portis/Gibson

If I was Knicks I would follow that with this

Grizzlies get SMithjr Payton Biyombo NY 2020 1st
Knicks get Morant T.Jones
Hornets get Valanciunas Anderson
Detriot 2020 1st

Morant/TJones/Thomas
Ellington/Mikhailliuk/Brown
Barrett/Knox/Bullock
Randle/Morris/Brazdeikas
Robinson/Gibson/Portis

Smithjr/Payton/Melton
Allen/Brooks/Bullock
Jackson/Crowders/Cabolco
Clark/Rabb/Solomon
Jackson/Biyombo/Plumlee

15 Oct 2019 22:04:29
But why would the Grizzlies do that?

14 Oct 2019 09:51:04
Atlanta: Drummond

Detroit:Vucevic+1rnd pick OKC 2022 (lottery protected from atlanta)

Orlando: C Parsons+ Reddish+ 1rnd pick Brooklyn 2020(lottery protected from Atlanta)

Atl:
C: Drummond
PF:Collins
SF:Hunter
SG:huerter
PG:Young

Drummond would be a beast surrounded by all those shooters and Atlanta would improve on the defensive end too.

14 Oct 2019 15:14:13
Drummond+Collins pairing would concern me a little. Also, not sure Drummond plays well at the pace ATL plays.

27 Sep 2019 07:50:17
Nets: A gordon

Orl: Dinwidie+Temple+T Prince


Nets:
C:J Allen
PF:A Gordon
SF:J Harris
SG:Le Vert
PG Irving


Orl:
C: Vucevic/Bamba
PF:Isaac/aminu
SF:Ross/Prince
SG:Fournier/Temple
PG:Dinwidie/Fultz

27 Sep 2019 11:03:51
Prince is a Kyrie and KD friend so he is not going anywhere.

27 Sep 2019 12:14:17
KD, Durant and the Nets prefer titles over friendship
A Gordon is a good fit in that team.

Dinwidie is a great player, but they don't need him in Brooklyn and they can use him in Orlando, to lead that core and play defense.


this trade works for both teams.

27 Sep 2019 15:47:38
So as tbe GM or owner of the Nets, you want the teams reputation to be that they have no loyalty to their players. They only get players for their All-Star friends and then dump the player once their friends are signed to longterm deals. I think you have an "ends justify the means" petspective that makes it hard for the players to trust the FO. And we saw in the Lakers how that plays out.

27 Sep 2019 17:04:19
It's not like Price is the central piece to this trade. Swap him for a future protected first. Fixed.

21 Sep 2019 12:15:56
Cavs and nets

Cavs get: Allen and prince

Nets get: Thompson and clarkson

21 Sep 2019 12:29:10
Dude, study the rules for trades in the NBA first. Thompson + Clarkson is $32 mil in salary while Allen + Prince is only $6 mil in salary. How is Brooklyn taking on $26 mil in salary when they are already over the salary cap?

20 Sep 2019 14:54:02
Hornets get Schroder, Nader, 2020 Denver 1st via okc
***They need a contingency plan if Rozier doesn't pan out and a good backup in the meantime. Schroeder can be a sixth man of the year candidate, off the ball, or a nice stopgap. The first helps too.

Spurs get Gallinari, Roberson
***I don't believe that Derozan has worked. And I believe that to make Aldridge most effective, put him at the 5 and give him space. This can help all the way around. Gallinari gives crazy good spacing for Aldridge. He also feels like a spurs guy. Selfishly I'd love to see what pop could make of Dre.

Thunder get Derozan, Bellineli, Williams, Graham
***I think Derozan could be a great fit in okc. He can be relieved of pressure and feel wanted here. Bellineli gives them a good shooter at the 2. Williams can space at the 4. Graham could be the third pg. Also trims salary. They burn a first but it's their worst one.

Paul, SGA, Graham
Bellineli, Diallo, Burton
Derozan, Ferguson
Williams, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

20 Sep 2019 15:13:33
Spurs sre going want more than 2 expiring deals for Derozen. Definately want a first round pick + players.

Plus, they would rather keep bellineli than take roberson.

14 Sep 2019 15:16:55
Another Paul trade idea

Thunder get Iguodala, Williams, Crowder, Monk
***Cut salary, check. Retain most of the picks, check. Create better roster balance, check. I like this as well as I believe that Okc is a low key landing spot for Giannis one day. They'll have picks, young players, cap space, and spacing.

Hornets get Paul, 2020 Denver 1st
***With Kemba gone, they double down on remanning the pg position. If Paul works out, great. If not, they still have Rozier. They add a first. This also sends Paul East which allows him a better shot at the playoffs this season.

Grizz get Biyombo, 2020 Chicago 2nd via okc, their 2024 2nd via okc
***They won't get a 1st for Iggy, but two seconds is not bad. Plus, Biyombo can help with shot blocking and is a nice alternative to Jonas.

14 Sep 2019 17:24:02
Grizzlies will pass until trade deadline on hopes for a better offer for Iggy + Crowder (Whiteside and 2020 first, perhaps? )

14 Sep 2019 20:25:13
Or LeBron and a 1st? Since Nuric (? ) is long term injuried Portland will start Whiteside .

14 Sep 2019 22:47:49
Hmmmm. Didn't I say trade deadline? I thought I said trade deadline. Let's see. Oh, what do you know? I did say trade deadline. Also, read 2 different report suggesting Nurkic could be back by the trade deadline as well. Or can change into Iggy + Plumlee for Whiteside + Skal + pick.

09 Sep 2019 03:48:07
Brooklyn trades Joe Harris
Brooklyn gets Bjelica

With Chandlers suspension and Kurus' DUI, Brooklyn only really have 2 bigs and could use Bjelica's strech 4 capabilities.

Indy trades Miles Turner
Indy gets Joe Harris and Bogdan Bojanovich and lottery protected 1st.

Adds wing depth while Oladipo recovers and frees minutes for Bitadze.

Sacramento trades Bogdan Bojanovich, Bjelica, and lottery protected 1st
Sacramento gets Miles Turner.

Consolidates roster and makes and interesting front lines of Turner and Bagley.

09 Sep 2019 16:41:47
I like it for Indy and Sac. Questionable for Brooklyn, but possible.

09 Sep 2019 18:27:01
BMiller, if Sac tosses in a 2nd rounder to Brooklyn would that move them from "Questionable" to "Lets do it"?

11 Sep 2019 15:37:05
Indiana says no to this. Without getting a stretch 4 in return to compliment Sabonis then the Pacers say no. Sub Giles for Bajonovich and then maybe.

07 Sep 2019 00:12:29
Bulls trade hornets

Bulls get marvin williams and 2nd round pick

Hornets get K.dunn and C. Huchinson

07 Sep 2019 06:51:30
Salaries don't match for teams over the salary cap.

29 Aug 2019 00:54:39
Cavs and nets

Cavs get Kevin Durant

Nets get: Kevin love, Jordan Clarkson and two first round picks

29 Aug 2019 10:17:30
He's out for the year why not.

29 Aug 2019 16:37:02
Why not? The Nets just signed him and Irving to be the faces of their franchises, why would they trade him? Obviously, he's out for the season, but he can help them sign some other free agents for the following season.

23 Aug 2019 01:21:57
How's this?

Thunder Batum and Winslow

Hornets get Dragic, Waiters, Nader

Heat get Paul, Monk, Bacon, hornets pick

Thunder move Paul... they get a bad contract but at a weaker position and a really good contract.

Hornets get two more playmakers to put with Rozier, hedging their bets. They also lose Batum.

Heat land Paul without dealing Herro or picks. Waiters wasn't in the rotation last year anyway, and Dragic is expiring. They also add a pick.

23 Aug 2019 04:16:27
Waiters a playmaker! Thanks for the laugh.

19 Aug 2019 13:03:55
1) Spurs-Was
Spurs: J Wall+ Mahinmi+ 1rnd pick 2020/22/24( top 5 protection on the 24 pick)+ swap option in 21 and 23.

Was: LM Aldridge+ Derozan.

2) Was-Nets
Nets:Hashimuro+CJ Miles
Was: Dinwidie

was:
C: Bryant
PF:LMA
SF:Derozan
SG:Beal
PG:Dinwidie

19 Aug 2019 13:58:35
Why does Popovich want Wall? Never in a million years.

20 Aug 2019 06:06:40
He doesn't, he wants the picks. 3 picks+ 2 swap options is a good return.

14 Aug 2019 10:59:05
The Cavaliers get Nicolas Batum, Malik Monk, Bismack Biyombo, Charlotte 2020 1st round pick, 2022 Charlotte lottery protected 1st round pick

The Hornets get Kevin Love & Jordan Clarkson

14 Aug 2019 11:21:34
I'd rather keep Batum and his contract that expires in 2 years, along with 2 1st round picks.

Charlotte isn't going anywhere. Even with a healthy Love. They need to rebuild.

14 Aug 2019 12:11:08
Why give up 2 firsts if you are still going to be a lottery team? That is just a dumb move.

12 Aug 2019 17:04:14
Thunder and Hornets


Thunder trade Steven Adams and Danilo Gallinari to the Hornets

for Cody Zeller and Nicolas Batum.

Thunder Save $8 Million

Both Team are in the Plus +1 in the NBA Trade Machine.

12 Aug 2019 22:36:34
Terrible for Okc.

12 Aug 2019 23:17:49
I like the money savings but those two from the thunder are positive 3+ pipm vs the hornets are a negative pipm grouping. So ordinarily I’d suggest adding picks to balance the talent but Charlotte is not a team to give up picks. So I don’t know how this gets done.

13 Aug 2019 05:45:38
The saving 8 mil is a little deceptive because Batum won’t turn down his player option and Zeller makes 15 mil in that 2nd year, which after you subtract that 8 mil from, the Thunder are really paying 7 mil more than if they kept their own 2 players.

Add on to that those players are definite downgrades in this swap, i believe this trade is highly unlikely.

07 Aug 2019 21:11:21
SAS-BKN-PHX

SAS gets DBook and Allen

BKN get Forbes

PHX get SAS 1st round ‘’20 and ‘22, Derrick White


Murray/ Mills
DBook/ Walker
Gay/ KJ
Aldridge/ Carroll
Allen/ Poeltl/ Samanic


Kyrie/ Spencer D
Forbes/ La Vert/ Temple
Harris/ Prince
Kurucs/
Jordan.

07 Aug 2019 22:38:22
What in the world is this?

07 Aug 2019 22:54:39
Bookers salary>>>>>Whites salary.

08 Aug 2019 15:18:47
I think he is throwing DeMar in because he doesn't have him on any roster listed.

07 Aug 2019 01:48:12
I honestly think Paul ends up on the Heat by December when newly signed deals can be moved as that opens up more options and can broaden available third teams to facilitate.

A third team that makes the most sense to me: Boston. They should keep Brown and WILL keep Tatum. That won't be cheap. Moving Hayward for role players, controllable contracts, and/or expiring deals that will open up money for extending their core.

So.

Boston gets Dragic, Olynyk, Burton
***Dragic can be the Rozier replacement. If he works out, great. If not, there's your Brown extension money. Olynyk played well in Boston, spaces the floor, and is on a decent contract. Burton has potential. Not a bad asset to get on the backend of the deal.

Miami gets Paul, Williams, Ojeleye, Nader, Their 2021 first back
***Paul and Miami seem meant to be. They get a first that they want, and it's one of theirs back. The three other guys are inexpensive and young. Should be helpful with such an expensive, win-now core.

Okc gets Hayward, Waiters, Okpala
***OKC want to cut salary and hoard picks. This deal does neither. But this deal balances the team, and it could make them a playoff team with scary potential. They also are committed for fewer years. Hayward could be huge for the Thunder. Then I see them doing another deal.

Deal 2 for okc

Hawks get Roberson, 2020 Denver 1st
***Atlanta is all about acquiring firsts just like the Thunder are. They did similar deals previously adding big contracts with firsts attached that all expire next summer. Those guys all seem to be offense first. This deal is also expiring next summer, but nets them defense and a first instead. Dre could be a nice wing defender for a team lacking a true ace there. The first is the sweetener.

Okc gets Parker
***Okc has lacked bench scoring like crazy in the past. If their one or two guys don't come through, the starters are tasked with pulling 30-40 point games to get wins. They also have a hole at the backup 4 and a plethora of wings. Enter Parker. He fits well next to Noel off the bench. He gives a scoring punch. He can fill it up. Pressure is off for him in okc. They still have lots of picks. More importantly, this deal gets them under the tax for the year and makes them better.

Shai, Schröder
Ferguson, Waiters, Diallo
Hayward, Parker
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel

Is this a playoff team? And if so, what seed? And if so, how far could they go?

07 Aug 2019 05:34:27
To answer the end, that’s not a playoff team. That team competes with Minny and Dallas for 10th place in the west.

07 Aug 2019 05:34:55
Not in the west.

07 Aug 2019 05:35:35
Not a playoff team in the West.

07 Aug 2019 09:05:46
I don't think that OKC wants to make the playoffs this season. If they did, they don't move Westbrook orGeorge. They are in full blown rebuild mode.
I think it's hilarious that most everyone thinks Hayward's a stiff and is an albatross with his contract, yet he seems to be in any and almost every Boston trade rumor on tbis site. They are either Boston fans or are closet Hayward lovers trying to get him on the cheap.
Boston is NOT trying to trade him.

07 Aug 2019 12:39:40
JoeB has the Hayward thing nailed. Yes, he makes huge money and has not earned it, but he is not going to be traded -- especially not for role players. The chances of him getting back to 90 percent of what he was in Utah are maybe 50/ 50, but if he does produce again it's going to be in Boston, not somewhere else. If he has another off year, then 12 months from now he becomes valuable as an expiring contact and the Celtics can consider moving him. But there is no way he's not on the roster on Opening Night.

07 Aug 2019 14:36:36
Just not seeing Boston willing to "help" Miami get Paul unless Boston was getting a good return. Dragic and Olynk is not a good return.

07 Aug 2019 16:50:03
Too many moving pieces to pick the whole thing apart.

But that is not a playoff team.
They have a better chance (if they were really trying to) to make the playoffs with the team as it sits currently.

Also, Okc is already and will remain under the LUXERY cap, but will not make it under the SALARY cap this year. That would take jettisoning about 25 mil more off their salary, which actually will happen with expiring contracts next year.

05 Aug 2019 15:54:17
SAS/ORL/BKN

SAS get Jarrett Allen, Joe Harris, Evan Fournier, DJ Augustin & 1st round pick from ORL

Pg Murray/Mills/Augustin
Sg Fournier/White
Sf Harris/Carroll
Pf Aldridge/Gay
Ce Allen/Lyles

ORL get Demar Derozan, Marco Bellineli & Bryn Forbes

Pg Fultz/Forbes/MCW
Sg Derozan/Iwundu
Sf Aminu/Bellineli/Frazier
Pf Gordon/Okeke/Martin
Ce Vucevic/Bamba

BKN get Jonathan Isaac & Jakob Poeltl

Pg Irving/Dinwiddie
Sg Levert/Bellineli
Sf Prince/Temple/Durant
Pf Isaac/Chandler/Kurucs
Ce Jordan/Poeltl

06 Aug 2019 06:55:29
Fultz starting though lmao.

05 Aug 2019 09:38:38
Mavericks: Adams, Clippers 1st from Thunder

Thunder: Biyombo (exp) & 2nd round pick Hornets

Hornets: Hardaway Jr, Brunson & Jackson

05 Aug 2019 13:01:34
What?

Why does Dallas want another center? Just to pick up a draft pick?

The Hornets trade a single 2nd Rnd pick to take on 3 players, one of which is a lottery pick?

The Thunder would consider a deal to swap Adams and save some money, but I don’t know if they will send a 1st Rnd unprotected to do it. That’s “please take Carmelo Anthony” kind of incentives for a player they can financially afford to keep.

05 Aug 2019 13:08:30
Trying to see how Hardaway, Brunson and Jackson are worthy of a 1st round pick.

05 Aug 2019 06:02:09
BOS/ BKN/ OKC

BOS gets Harris, Allen, Gallo, Roberson and OKC 2022 2nd rd pick

OKC gets Hayward and 2021 2nd rd pick

BKN gets Brown and 2020 1st rounder


Kemba/ Edwards
Roberson/ Langford
Harris/ Smart
Tatum/ Gallo
Allen/ Kanter

CP3/ Schroeder
Shai/
Ferguson/ Bazley
Hayward/ Muscala
Adams/ Noel



Kyrie/ Spencer D
Brown/ Lavert
Prince/ Nwaba
Kurucs
DeAndre/.

05 Aug 2019 11:56:33
Gallinari is over 30 and Roberson has a low ceiling, but Allen and Harris have some value. Brown for Harris + Allen would be ok. Plus, it would be fun to see Brown and Irving kill each other in Brooklyn.

05 Aug 2019 13:12:40
Brown for Harris + Allen salaries don't work.

04 Aug 2019 01:56:21
ATL/BKN

ATL get Jarrett Allen, Joe Harris & Dzanan Musa

Pg Young
Sg Huerter
Sf Harris
Pf Collins
Ce Allen

BKN get DeAndre Hunter & Alex Len

Pg Irving/Dinwiddie
Sg LeVert/Temple
Sf Durant/Prince/Chandler
Pf Hunter/Kurucs/Adel
Ce Jordan/Len/Claxton

04 Aug 2019 05:28:15
The hawks gave up a lot to get hunter. While this return is of decent value, I don't see them selling Hunter before he has even played. On the other hand, I don't see the nets giving up all that for someone who hasn't proven anything yet. Right now, Harris and Allen seem to be good pieces on a championship contender.

04 Aug 2019 13:42:16
I was looking at the Collins Allen pairing as being too much of the same.

 
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